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00:01.49Gnurduxnothing
00:01.51Gnurduxfound it
00:04.25brad2901silverfox: have you banned all AOL users from connecting to your bz server? :)
00:04.52Gnurduxno
00:04.58Gnurduxhe banned brad2901!*@*
00:04.59CBGsilverfox: then do it now. :)
00:05.03Gnurduxlook at the banlist
00:05.09CBGerrr
00:05.12Gnurduxoh
00:05.14CBGthat was my channel
00:05.15Gnurduxhis bz server
00:05.16brad2901bz server
00:05.18CBGnot the server
00:05.23CBGand im not silverfox
00:05.27brad2901:)
00:31.06silverfoxbrad2901, what's the IP range?
00:31.21brad2901172.*.*.*
00:31.37silverfoxthat's not a range.  a large portion of it is RFC1918 spacfe (private)
00:31.48brad2901erm, hang on :)
00:32.14silverfox172.128.0.0/10 Cosmic Destroyer-172.169.218.85 AOL language, prick
00:32.18silverfoxlooks like it.
00:32.27brad2901right
00:32.34silverfoxI didn't think AOL users were smart enough to understand online gaming.
00:32.40brad2901well, thanks
00:32.51silverfoxcan they use bz even though it isn't part of the aol browser?!?
00:33.01brad2901:(
00:33.07brad2901it's not my fault I use AOL
00:33.10brad2901I know
00:33.12silverfoxwhose fault is it?
00:33.22silverfoxparents?
00:33.30brad2901AOL is one of the best ISPs over here
00:33.42silverfoxwhere is that?
00:33.45brad2901UK
00:33.54silverfoxI've banned a couple UK ISPs.
00:33.58brad2901ah
00:34.02silverfoxabuse problems.
00:34.16silverfoxwhen I was with artoo.net, we banned ALL european IP blocks period.  
00:34.23silverfoxadmin'ing was SOOO simple after we did that.
00:34.32brad2901heh :)
00:35.52brad2901Could I be put on some sort of whitelist?
00:36.12silverfoxdo you always have the same IP?
00:36.36brad2901no
00:36.43brad2901changes every day
00:37.30silverfoxI've removed the ban, but you should understand that if we recieve any abuse from that block, I'll put it back and you'll be looking for another server to play on (or new isp).  I'm not gonna end up like cosmos.
00:37.49brad2901ok, thanks
00:39.05CBGMicrosoft supports industry standards the same way a rope supports a hanged man.
00:39.15silverfoxno easy way to whitelist someone who doesn't come from the same IP all the time.
00:39.33brad2901Was it a firewall ban?
00:39.36CBGsilverfox: it's only bradley. :)
00:43.52silverfoxyes, firewall ban.
00:44.16silverfoxbzf bans tend to piss people off, and some just go straight to the DoS attack, so why not put in a firewall ban?
00:44.25brad2901I suppose so
00:44.33brad2901was the ban in place earlier today?
00:44.38silverfoxyes.
00:44.40brad2901I could connect fine earlier
00:44.53silverfoxinteresting...  You were probably outside that block of IPs.
00:45.01brad2901yeah
00:45.41silverfox172.128.0.0/10 = 172.128.0.1 - 172.191.255.254
00:46.18brad2901ah
00:46.50silverfoxbrb
00:47.00brad2901ok
00:47.57CBGnoooo
00:48.02CBGdont leave!!! :(
00:48.33brad2901?
00:49.53CBGYou like Family Guy? http://www.davesdaily.com/videoclips/89-familyguy.htm
00:50.06brad2901no
00:50.28CBGgrml
00:50.53CBGdamnit its almost 2AM
00:50.58CBGtime flies when your bored too
00:59.58ToughShootersilverfox: There is an easy way: Make group at bzbb and put the whitelisted people in. Then assign this group in your group privile database antiban perm
01:00.27CBGOooh, clever. :)
01:00.44CBGAssuming the players in question are globally regietered.
01:00.54CBGI guess it sucks to be them if they ain't.
01:01.45ToughShooterIf you're going to block an ISP you need to be sure that the same people are staying outside except trusted ones
01:03.04silverfoxToughShooter, the ban is in my firewall.
01:03.13ToughShooterAww
01:03.49silverfoxrofl!!!  that famjily guy thing...
01:04.08silverfoxI've had a recurring nightmare since I was a small child that is almost identical to that video...
01:04.10silverfoxwierd.
01:04.48silverfoxbecause it doesn't protect from DoS attacks and other mischieviousness
01:05.01silverfoxalso, afaik, doesn't support CIDR notation bans.
01:05.14ToughShooterCIDR is supported
01:05.20silverfoxreally?  that's new.
01:05.44CBGrofl!!!  that famjily guy thing...
01:05.44CBG[2:04am] <silverfox> I've had a recurring nightmare since I was a small child that is almost identical to that vidoe...
01:05.56CBGLol. It is the best clip ever!
01:06.05CBGand you have STRANEG dreams, dude.
01:06.16silverfoxcyall.
01:06.21CBGbye
01:06.36silverfox~bzflist
01:06.50ToughShooter<PROTECTED>
01:06.51ToughShooterIP address can also be expressed using wildcards (192.168.10.*) or CIDR subnet masks (129.168.0.0/16).
01:07.27silverfoxor say 192.168.0.0/20 ?  I want classess blocks...
01:07.46ToughShooterI don't really understand them :/
01:07.52silverfoxdon't want to ban a /8 when a /11 is what I need.
01:08.09silverfoxAsk me again when I have time, and I'll explain (if you're interested)
01:08.38ToughShooterWell, it was what Nid has written
01:16.47Gnurduxwow
01:16.56CBG?
01:17.06Gnurduxit really DID crash my normal bzflag
01:17.16Gnurduxguess evn hto it doesnt show up in list for you
01:17.21Gnurduxit will still allow connect
01:17.51CBGgnurdux.homelinix.net
01:17.51CBG?
01:18.04Gnurduxyes
01:18.06Gnurduxconnect
01:18.11Gnurduxand it will freeze
01:18.24Gnurduxone thing is thta it freezes the custom client too ;(
01:18.26CBGtrying
01:18.44CBG"INCOMPATTABLE SERVER VERSION"
01:19.00Gnurduxoh
01:19.04Gnurduxgood :)
01:19.22Gnurduxsomething isup with my bzflag i guess ;(
01:19.46brad2901Gnurdux: you changed the protocol?
01:19.54Gnurduxim adding a new feature
01:20.00Gnurduxa randomly teleporting floor
01:20.09brad2901oh. =)
01:22.19Gnurduxhmmm
01:22.26GnurduxError unpacking world database
01:22.34Gnurduxguess my fix didnt work ;P
03:14.15silverfoxchanging the protocol is generally a bad idea.
03:14.43silverfoxunless you wanted to try to start your own offshoot of the bzflag project (not to be confused with bzflag, because it would be incompatible)
03:14.49silverfox~bzflist
03:15.22silverfoxdoes t hat say there are 15 players using 1.x ?
03:15.48*** mode/#silvercat [+o Pimpinella] by silverfox
03:15.56*** mode/#silvercat [-o silverfox] by silverfox
05:00.20silverfoxI just noticed bullets jumping out of nowhere on the server...
05:00.25silverfoxpossible cheat?
05:59.06orangesilverfox, you there?
07:17.34silverfoxyes
07:17.42silverfoxfor the moment.
07:18.15silverfoxanyone know the ip of the web server?
07:38.01*** join/#silvercat _Manu_ (~Julio@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net)
07:42.53silverfoxhmm...
07:43.01silverfoxGreen Manalishi is in my banlist
07:43.09silverfoxbut someone has designated him a cop.
07:43.15silverfoxwhat to do, what to do?
07:48.21_Manu_heh, to be or not to be.. that's de question
07:48.46silverfoxfor now, I do nothing.
07:48.54silverfoxmanu, what's the IP of the web server?
07:49.08silverfoxHas someone asked Tim to create the A/CNAME record?
07:49.12_Manu_what web server?
07:49.23_Manu_I mean what domain?
07:49.33_Manu_bzflag.org?
07:49.35silverfoxsilvercat.bzflag.org
07:49.36silverfoxyes.
07:50.01_Manu_silvercat.bzflag.org may be where silvercat is hosted not the bzflag.. he can redirect to your
07:50.22_Manu_actually silvercat.bzflag.org is empty
07:50.40_Manu_you must tell Tim where silvercat is hosted.. (the ip)
07:50.52silverfoxThat's what I was asking for.
07:51.04silverfoxI was under the impression you were providing web space for that.
07:51.06_Manu_well I dunno where you are running your server..
07:51.36silverfoxjomojo, didnt you say it was Manu?!?
07:51.40_Manu_no
07:51.51silverfoxwell, its not me.
07:51.59_Manu_ah..
07:52.20_Manu_you mean the game server or http server?
07:52.25silverfoxweb
07:52.26silverfoxhttp
07:52.54_Manu_is this?: http://silvercat.pimpi.org/
07:53.12silverfoxcould be... maybe pimpi is providing web space...
07:53.28silverfoxI dunno.  Oh well.  Let someone else worry about it.
07:54.08_Manu_I know the IP but I'm not sure if is this.. so also pimpi knows the ip
07:54.27jomojosilverfox: it was menotume
07:54.34silverfoxah...
07:54.39silverfoxsry Manu...
07:54.40_Manu_heh :)
07:54.43_Manu_np
07:54.48silverfoxI'm easily confused in my old age.
07:54.54_Manu_was meno not manu ;-p
07:55.26silverfoxexactly.
07:55.26_Manu_how old are you.. if it can be known?
07:55.43_Manu_you looks young.. heh
07:55.58silverfox3 days older than dirt.
07:57.47silverfoxThe gray hair didn't bother me.  The gray beard suprised me, but not alarming really...
07:57.56silverfoxIts the gray chest hair and arm hair that freaks me out.
07:58.22silverfoxat least I'm not balding I guess.
08:00.46silverfoxI banned Manalishi because he was complaining about the server and acting entitled...
08:00.54silverfoxthat was like 8 months ago.
08:01.03silverfoxis it petty to hold a grudge that long?
08:13.20jomojosilverfox: Green Manalishi has been a cop for a long time
08:13.53jomojoeither you or jb originally named him one, and cosmos named him cop of the month last month
08:16.25_Manu_maybe silverfox banlist is outdated :)
08:23.21silverfoxit wasn't me.
08:23.32silverfoxhe's been a cop, but banned from my servers for some time.
08:23.37silverfoxstill is.
08:24.08Pimpinellasilverfox. _Manu_ : ToughShooter placed his stuff on http://silvercat.pimpi.org/
08:24.12silverfoxthought it quite interesting to see he was a cop, when I know for a fact that he's been banned by cosmos at least once.
08:24.25Pimpinellahe asked for webspace, so i gave him this
08:24.28silverfoxis that the final resting place for our website?
08:24.42Pimpinelladunno
08:25.05silverfoxsomeone ought to decide and get the IP of the web server to tim so they can create a record for silvercat.bzflag.org
08:33.31Pimpinellajomojo: can you clear the website question?
08:34.01jomojoyeah I am waiting for meno to come back into town to give us the space
08:34.09Pimpinellak
08:34.31jomojohe was supposed to be back in town, today
08:35.38Pimpinellahad a nice time last night?
08:35.55jomojoit still is last night
08:35.58jomojoi just got home
08:36.00jomojolol
08:36.02Pimpinellaih, ic
08:36.05Pimpinella:)
08:36.14Pimpinellayou're wet coast?
08:36.17Pimpinellawast
08:36.22Pimpinellaargh
08:36.23Pimpinellawest
08:36.39jomojogluttony has new a new definition
08:36.44jomojoyes west coast
08:37.03Pimpinellagluttony?
08:38.27jomojoyou need  a defination
08:38.37jomojodefinition
08:38.41jomojo?
08:39.06Pimpinellayep
08:39.16jomojoi ate an 8 course meal
08:40.15Pimpinellawow
08:40.31jomojogluttony
08:40.32jomojon 1: habitual eating to excess 2: eating to excess (personified as one of the deadly sins)
08:40.56PimpinellaSchlemmerei
08:41.19_Manu_morning Pimpinella
08:57.01Pimpinellabuenos dias _Manu_
10:25.52meacanibot: dns fortix.baat.dk
10:26.01meacanibot: dns fortix.bzflag.org
11:19.59*** join/#silvercat Birdie (~birdie@d51A4640A.access.telenet.be)
11:19.59*** mode/#silvercat [+o Birdie] by ChanServ
12:57.30*** join/#silvercat ToughShooter (~ts@p54B006BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:08.55*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
14:54.36*** join/#silvercat ToughShooter (~ts@p54B02CE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:06.56*** join/#silvercat Pimpi (~frank@p5481A87E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:06.56*** mode/#silvercat [+o Pimpi] by ChanServ
18:29.30*** join/#silvercat Birdie (~birdie@d51A4640A.access.telenet.be)
18:29.30*** mode/#silvercat [+o Birdie] by ChanServ
18:41.08*** join/#silvercat menotume (~meno@menotume.active.supporter.pdpc)
19:17.26*** join/#silvercat jomojo_ (~jomojo@c-24-17-68-130.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
19:31.25*** join/#silvercat Gnurdux (~gnurdux@69.251.224.96)
19:32.22Gnurduxjomojo, do oyu think it would be a good idea to host the twoteam hix?
19:36.06Gnurduxjomojo_?
20:17.23*** join/#silvercat Pimpinella (~frank@p5481A01B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:17.23*** mode/#silvercat [+o Pimpinella] by ChanServ
20:18.23*** join/#silvercat brad2901 (brad@ACD805A7.ipt.aol.com)
20:18.50Pimpinellawb menotume
20:20.10*** mode/#silvercat [+o menotume] by ChanServ
20:20.14Pimpinellahrm, power went down, now i'm unsure if i forgot to join ny channels i should be in...
20:20.32orangehow many are you normally in?
20:20.40Pimpinellawho knows...
20:21.22orangewell, it not you, then probably nobody :-)
20:21.29orangeif* not you
20:23.11Pimpinellawow, i entered a lot of channels over the last few month...
20:23.57Pimpinellafrank@lulu:~$ ls -1 .xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-\#* | wc -l
20:23.57Pimpinella64
20:24.16Gnurduxwow
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20:32.37*** mode/#silvercat [+o brad2901] by ChanServ
20:32.41*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by brad2901
20:34.25*** mode/#silvercat [+o birdie] by ChanServ
20:41.06*** join/#silvercat ToughShooter (~ts@p54B004DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:59.35Gnurduxi deleted my bzfs conf
20:59.37Gnurduxand groupdb
20:59.39Gnurduxand evrything
20:59.43Gnurduxwait
20:59.44Gnurduxwhew
20:59.47Gnurduxbrad has a copy
21:06.01orangenow that's what I call hacking :-)
21:10.34Gnurduxorange, i still havent decided on a map
21:10.49Gnurduxsomething that will be useful to silvercat....
21:15.43GnurduxToughShooter?
21:16.03GnurduxPimpinella? menotume?
21:17.19*** mode/#silvercat [+o jomojo] by ChanServ
21:17.23ToughShooterGnurdux: pong
21:17.29Gnurduxpong?
21:18.25Gnurduxjomojo, what is a single map you would like silvercat to have
21:18.41ToughShooterI just read that you called me so I could not resist to write pong
21:18.46Gnurduxlol
21:30.58jomojoGnurdux, what do you mean?
21:31.11jomojoyou mean what map do we don't have but would like?
21:32.39Gnurduxyes
21:32.41Gnurduxfor me to run
21:33.28jomojodunno
21:33.51jomojoi have been concentrating on figuring on the maps we have
21:35.08Gnurduxok
21:38.47menotumewhat is the url of the current 'hepcat' website ?
21:39.13brad2901http://silvercat.pimpi.org/
21:39.41Gnurduxon pimpis site?
21:40.20jomojoits only temporary .. I don't think pimpi has agreed to host it permanently
21:40.41menotumeok, good
21:40.50jomojomenotume, can you or have you talked toughshooter
21:40.52menotumenot good
21:41.01menotumewhere is the forum data ??
21:41.01Gnurduxso jomojo there are no maps that you want me to host?
21:41.11jomojoi dunno
21:41.12jomojoyet
21:41.21jomojogive me some time to think about it
21:42.45Gnurduxok
21:44.39ToughShooterHmm, I remember someone told me to drop the old forum data but I don't remember who it was
21:44.46jomojome
21:44.52menotumehuh ?
21:45.02jomojowell the hold forum set up is fine
21:45.09jomojobut we don't need all the old host
21:45.12jomojopost
21:45.21menotumehold forum ?
21:45.36ToughShooterold forum and old posts ;)
21:46.15menotumewell, without the sql data, you'll start off fresh ... users, groups, permissions, topics, forums
21:46.23jomojothe way the forum was set up was desirable, we will need new moderators
21:46.52jomojousers, groups etc.. should be new
21:47.05jomojomany of the old admins are no longer admins
21:47.11jomojobecause of absence
21:47.16Gnurduxwhat are you talking abiut?
21:47.16jomojoand same with players
21:47.20Gnurduxsilvecat?
21:47.30jomojosetting up the website
21:47.36Gnurduxoh yes true
21:47.43Gnurduxim not an admin anymore
21:47.53Gnurduxyou made a lot of admins cops right? but why?
21:48.00jomojoright
21:48.09jomojodidn't need that many admins
21:48.31Gnurduxah
21:54.09Gnurduxis brad still an admin>
21:55.21jomojoyeah i granted it based on seniority of old hepcat admins
22:00.43Gnurduxah
22:00.48Gnurduxbrad was a hepcat admin?
22:02.41jomojoyeah
22:02.45jomojofor a while
22:03.02jomojobefore overlord was even an hepcat map
22:04.12Gnurduxwow!
22:05.52jomojopillbox used to be the main hepcat map.. it was as popular as overlord/babel until cosmos put those up.
22:06.05jomojobrad joined us when it was just pillbox
22:06.40Gnurduxok
22:06.50Gnurduxjomojo so you used to be associated with hepcat
22:07.22jomojoyeah i was the first admin that cosmos brought on.  for a short while it was just me and cosmos
22:07.37jomojoor rather cosmos and I
22:08.11Gnurduxwow
22:08.21Gnurduxwhy did hepcat get shut down?
22:08.23jomojothat was a couple of years ago
22:08.29jomojocosmos no longer wished to host it
22:08.35jomojoor have much to do with bz
22:09.06Gnurduxoh
22:09.31jomojohe barely played and was getting a lot of grief from those who did..
22:09.48Gnurduxtell me when you think of a fun map for me to host
22:09.53jomojotoo much of an headache for a game he didn't care to play anymore
22:10.10jomojoyou know brad is probably a better guy to ask than me
22:10.24jomojoi have never chosen a map
22:10.31jomojojust helped with them once posted
22:11.33ToughShooterHmm, now what's going on with the website?
22:12.33jomojoi don't know for sure
22:13.03jomojomenotume seems to be handling much of it so he doesn't have take the time to explain it to me.. lol
22:13.15menotumehehe
22:13.56jomojo"shut up jomojo, I will take care of it just don't bug me anymore." ;)
22:14.11jomojolol
22:14.15menotumelol
22:15.17Gnurduxok'
22:15.25Gnurduxjomojo, do you have a server
22:15.26Gnurduxlol
22:15.37Gnurduxmenotume, gimme a map!
22:15.47jomojono i don't have a server
22:16.14menotumei don't have maps
22:17.05brad2901Gnurdux: http://www.rangfar.com/hosted/bzflagworld/forum/
22:19.08Gnurduxwhich one ;(?
22:19.23brad2901any
22:19.27brad2901you choose
22:19.49Gnurduxhow should i know?
22:19.52Gnurduxchoose a good one
22:19.59Gnurduxnot to strange
22:20.10Gnurduxbut distinctive
22:20.19Gnurduxand something that owuld be popular
22:21.33brad2901um
22:22.25brad2901Overlord + Grassroots (on one Map)? :)
22:22.37brad2901jk
22:22.40brad2901i'll look
22:23.35brad2901Gnurdux: "Tomb of the dead"?
22:23.43brad2901http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1998
22:24.41Gnurduxi want a 2-team ctf map
22:25.34brad2901ah
22:27.37brad2901Gnurdux: If that's the map I think it is then it will be popular
22:27.44brad2901Atleast it was on 1.8
22:27.58brad2901er, 1.10.*
22:28.20Gnurduxwhat map?
22:28.26brad2901^_^
22:28.33brad2901You could do a rabbit hunt
22:28.37Gnurduxno
22:28.40brad2901:(
22:29.09GnurduxCTF
22:29.14Gnurdux4-team would be ok
22:30.14brad2901k
22:30.41brad2901look at these 2: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2496
22:30.43brad2901brb
22:31.39GnurduxBoth maps are running on the shellshock.bzflag.bz:4501 rotating CTF server. Jumping is off for Totall Recall and on for Battleram City.
22:32.57brad2901back
22:33.17brad2901Gnurdux: not on version 2.0 though
22:33.34Gnurduxhe isnt running them on 2.0>
22:33.41Gnurduxhes running em on 1.x?
22:33.50brad2901yes, iirc
22:33.54Gnurduxwhy?
22:34.08brad2901He hasn't been around for a while
22:34.38GnurduxCTF Quadlord
22:34.38GnurduxAuthor: Dutchrai | Released: 2004-12-25 | Type: CTF4
22:34.38GnurduxThe 4-team CTF Quadlord is a mod of the 2-team CTF Overlord. The base complex itself had to be scaled down 20% to make room for the additional Blue and Purple teams. The bases were slightly altered too. Go smoke'em.
22:34.40Gnurduxhhe
22:34.46Gnurduxthat soudns cool
22:35.09brad2901yeah
22:35.16brad2901I'm away for a bit...
22:35.21Gnurduxthis has a lot of nice maps
22:35.26Gnurduxill look through it
22:36.56Gnurduxooh
22:36.57Gnurduxpacman
23:20.29brad2901~bzflist

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