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01:52.28 | *** join/#silvercat longhair (n=shane@pool-151-205-234-61.cap.east.verizon.net) |
01:52.34 | longhair | howdy |
01:53.16 | jomojo | how many levels of admin do you want 2 3 ? |
01:53.25 | longhair | levels? |
01:53.38 | longhair | you mean different groups? |
01:53.44 | jomojo | like silvercat has owner group admin and cop |
01:53.45 | jomojo | yeah |
01:54.20 | jomojo | that way you can different degrees of responsebility to different persons |
01:54.30 | longhair | yes |
01:54.37 | orange | probably should go ahead and get whitelist too, right? |
01:54.41 | jomojo | yeah |
01:54.43 | longhair | so I'd probably want admin and cop |
01:55.25 | longhair | lemme think a sec |
01:55.29 | jomojo | how about LONGHAIR.COPS, LONGHAIR.ADMINS, LONGHAIR.WHITELIST? |
01:55.41 | longhair | what would whitelist be for? |
01:55.59 | jomojo | whitelist isn't all that important |
01:56.07 | longhair | what does it usually do? |
01:56.20 | jomojo | i set it up so that if we ban huge ip ranges to get rid of one player with a very dynamic ip |
01:56.21 | orange | don't you normally leave the S off the groups? |
01:56.46 | longhair | ok, I see |
01:56.50 | jomojo | i can let indviduals in from that range using antiban with global login |
01:56.57 | jomojo | with or without the s doesn't matter |
01:57.05 | longhair | so right now, I have FEATURES EVERYONE REGISTERED LOCAL.ADMIN |
01:57.21 | jomojo | you can have the whitelist and not use it but it will be set up for you if you do |
01:57.32 | longhair | Obviously, EVERYONE n REGISTERED are made by the server |
01:57.37 | jomojo | lets just focus on the groups |
01:57.42 | longhair | ok |
01:57.50 | jomojo | so i can have jeffm set them up while i have him |
01:57.58 | jomojo | are the groups i named okay with you as moderator |
01:58.05 | longhair | sure |
01:59.05 | longhair | so the setting of my groups on the global login is done on the list server side? |
01:59.31 | jomojo | no your groups have to be set within your own groupperms |
02:00.00 | jomojo | they are set to default now i believe |
02:00.06 | jomojo | okay groups are set up |
02:00.24 | longhair | ok, so I set up these groups in my groupsdb file, and then just use -advertise <groupname> to advertise them? |
02:00.25 | jomojo | say thanks to jeffm2501 next time you see him.. or if you ever see him |
02:00.33 | longhair | will do |
02:01.02 | jomojo | -advertise.LONGHAIR.ADMINS |
02:01.06 | jomojo | for admins |
02:01.27 | longhair | -advertise LONGHAIR.COPS for cops |
02:01.30 | jomojo | that either needs to go in run script or conf |
02:01.38 | jomojo | uhm no |
02:01.45 | longhair | oh |
02:01.50 | jomojo | -advertise.LONGHAIR.COPS |
02:02.02 | jomojo | i think let me double check |
02:02.29 | longhair | ok |
02:02.34 | jomojo | do you know how to set up groupperms? |
02:02.56 | longhair | I have a file called "groups" w/ one group per line w/ permissions following |
02:03.30 | jomojo | oops i was wrong |
02:03.37 | jomojo | right |
02:03.40 | longhair | ? |
02:03.54 | jomojo | you were right -advertise then a space then the name |
02:03.59 | longhair | cool |
02:04.21 | jomojo | would you like a copy of some of my group files to see what the perms i have given who |
02:04.38 | longhair | sure! would be educational :) |
02:05.03 | jomojo | okay i will send you the 4 various groups i use for silvercat |
02:05.08 | longhair | thx |
02:05.24 | jomojo | each has its own purpose two are for public use two for private use |
02:05.29 | longhair | ok |
02:05.29 | jomojo | i need an email most likely |
02:05.41 | jomojo | you can do it in pm if you like |
02:05.41 | longhair | longhair_bzflag@verizon.net |
02:05.49 | longhair | lol, too late |
02:07.06 | jomojo | okay just sent in rtf |
02:07.23 | longhair | so your SILVERFOX.ADMINS group has a few less perms than LOCAL.ADMIN? |
02:07.50 | jomojo | this is why i have all these smart people as my admins and in the owner group |
02:07.54 | jomojo | yeah basically |
02:08.13 | jomojo | but most people make the admins as powerful as local admin and cops like my admins |
02:08.36 | longhair | ok |
02:08.43 | jomojo | and don't even have cops like silvercat.. or they have something like "trusted" for vipers |
02:08.58 | jomojo | a few months ago i had no clue about this stuff |
02:09.04 | jomojo | so i surrounded myself with those who did |
02:09.14 | jomojo | i think it worked out quite nicely for myself |
02:09.16 | longhair | well, it's good to ask questions |
02:09.18 | jomojo | lol |
02:09.23 | longhair | :) |
02:09.26 | jomojo | yeah |
02:09.34 | longhair | thanks for the files |
02:09.36 | jomojo | but now i am developing new skills and knowledge |
02:09.40 | jomojo | yeah no problem |
02:09.47 | jomojo | need anything else let me know |
02:10.09 | longhair | will do, thx for taking the time to explain |
02:10.18 | jomojo | its what we do |
02:10.24 | longhair | :) |
02:10.28 | jomojo | you help me out by being a good cop |
02:10.34 | jomojo | i help you set your stuff up |
02:10.47 | longhair | I'll do my best |
02:10.54 | jomojo | i am sure you will be fine |
02:11.06 | jomojo | well i am going to watch the simpson |
02:11.10 | jomojo | enjoy |
02:11.12 | longhair | cool, have fun |
03:57.11 | silverfox | what was that about? |
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04:27.02 | jomojo | silverfox: was helping longhair setting up global groups |
04:30.22 | jomojo | I almost forgot how easy it was for me to get this information from all the bz devs and people who run servers. |
04:30.39 | jomojo | But if I didn't know everyone I did I would have been long ago lost |
04:31.00 | jomojo | So thanks to their generous help i was able to learn quite a bit.. so i thought i would pass it along |
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