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| 16:28.19 | SilverFox | JBdiGriz, no, it does not. |
| 16:28.39 | SportChick | hey silverfox |
| 16:29.10 | SportChick | question - I noticed that the thief flag has been set for an extraordinarily small size on silvercat recently - any particular reason? |
| 16:29.26 | SportChick | I very nearly banned someone for using a cheat client ... |
| 16:30.01 | JBdiGriz | recently? I think that small thief and morbidly obese were set at about the same time. |
| 16:30.41 | SportChick | well, maybe I only just noticed, but I'm wondering if we really intended to set thief so small as to be unkillable |
| 16:30.54 | SportChick | it's like tiny+narrow in one |
| 16:31.05 | SportChick | plus of course, high speed, agility, etc. |
| 16:32.07 | JBdiGriz | I have actually been shot with thief, so there must be some chance of killing one. The number of shots has been set down to 2, so it isn't a long lasting flag. |
| 16:32.24 | SportChick | hrm |
| 16:32.40 | SportChick | I'm pretty sure he had more than 2 shots with it |
| 16:32.52 | SportChick | he had it for close to 1/2 hour |
| 16:32.57 | SportChick | just held on to it and annoyed people |
| 16:33.05 | SportChick | driving over burrows, etc |
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| 16:36.35 | JBdiGriz | It would be nice if there was a better interface, so we could learn what the variables are for the flags/server. |
| 16:36.56 | JBdiGriz | When they change, we have to assume people are not cheating, and go searching for the changes. |
| 16:39.06 | SportChick | yes |
| 16:39.11 | SportChick | well you can check /set |
| 16:39.22 | SportChick | but you have to know what is "normal" to see if it's a change |
| 16:44.16 | orange | you can use /diff |
| 16:45.04 | orange | and th can be killed with sr and sw too |
| 16:45.51 | JBdiGriz | What's the variable to check for idlekick? |
| 16:48.00 | orange | I don't think there is one |
| 16:49.07 | JBdiGriz | That makes it rather difficult to check with /set. |
| 16:49.18 | orange | yes, that is true |
| 16:49.53 | JBdiGriz | Of course, that was rather the point of my question. ;) |
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| 18:16.23 | SilverFox | JBdiGriz: That's just a warning, does it create configure? |
| 18:16.44 | SilverFox | that was the original question. ;) its only three days old. you forgetting things old man? |
| 18:16.48 | SilverFox | ;) |
| 18:18.55 | JBdiGriz | Yes I am forgetting things. :D |
| 18:21.13 | JBdiGriz | Is there an autoreconf on your system? If so, what is the version "autoreconf --version" |
| 18:23.33 | JBdiGriz | Someone was using fink to install programs on their MacOSX system. It renamed a link to libtoolize which caused autogen to try to do things it couldn't. brlcad made some changes to avoid that problem. |
| 18:24.10 | SilverFox | nope, not intstalled. |
| 18:24.24 | SilverFox | should it be? |
| 18:24.39 | JBdiGriz | Probably not. |
| 18:25.28 | JBdiGriz | Since my memory is failing, could you post that warning again? |
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| 19:34.16 | SilverFox | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/138144 |
| 19:35.10 | SilverFox | I'm always splitting focus. Work gets a higher nice though. |
| 19:36.14 | JBdiGriz | It's trying to run autoreconf file: autogen.sh line: 678 |
| 19:36.30 | JBdiGriz | Since you don't have autoreconf installed, that would seem to be a problem. |
| 19:37.30 | JBdiGriz | Do you have an AUTORECONF environment variable set? (Probably a silly question, but it is one of the things autogen.sh checks for.) |
| 19:38.03 | SilverFox | nope. |
| 19:38.13 | SilverFox | I don't seem to have autoreconf installed though... |
| 19:38.22 | SilverFox | I'm looking for the port now. |
| 19:38.44 | JBdiGriz | Try sh ./autogen.sh --verbose |
| 19:39.31 | JBdiGriz | I don't configure with autoreconf, so I don't think installing it will solve the problem. |
| 19:39.32 | SilverFox | hmm... don't see it. Closest thing: |
| 19:39.42 | SilverFox | /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259/files/patch-autoreconf.in |
| 19:40.09 | JBdiGriz | That's probably it, it would be part of autoconf. |
| 19:40.44 | SilverFox | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/142924 |
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| 19:41.18 | JBdiGriz | On the verbose, I'm looking for a line which looks something like "Checking autoreconf version" |
| 19:41.45 | SilverFox | Checking autoreconf version: autoreconf --version |
| 19:41.56 | SilverFox | Nothing on the following line though. |
| 19:43.45 | JBdiGriz | It sounds like it's finding autoreconf, and then failing because of it. |
| 19:46.13 | JBdiGriz | Try running "which autoreconf" |
| 19:46.32 | SilverFox | heh... |
| 19:46.36 | SilverFox | its there. |
| 19:46.39 | SilverFox | Couldn't find it before. |
| 19:46.56 | SilverFox | Checking autoreconf version: autoreconf --version |
| 19:47.00 | SilverFox | oops. |
| 19:47.03 | SilverFox | # /usr/local/bin/autoreconf --version |
| 19:47.03 | SilverFox | autoreconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59 |
| 19:47.15 | SilverFox | what'd you say about the version before? |
| 19:49.15 | JBdiGriz | If it's there, it's trying to use it, and that's probably why it is failing. |
| 19:51.20 | JBdiGriz | You can try the steps by hand. They are listed in autogen.sh: 739 |
| 19:51.57 | JBdiGriz | I would have to install autoreconf on a system, and try to find the problem with autogen. |
| 19:52.12 | JBdiGriz | After that, I could probably get brlcad to fix it correctly. |
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