irclog2html for storm on 2002.05.25

10:53:36dc_hey lale
11:25:28dc_spung: maybe here might be a better place to talk about it
11:26:36spungagree
11:26:49spungand less open windows for you this way
11:29:10spungbrb
11:29:14spungis away: bathing
11:34:15dc_:/
11:34:42dc_spung: sorry, had to do something, just adding your sf name
11:43:25dc_spung: okay, your added ;)
11:54:41spungdc_: right, thanks, did you apply my patch?
11:56:04spungis back (gone 00:26:49)
11:57:34spungno, you didn't :P should I apply it myself?
11:58:24dc_;p
11:58:36dc_spung: you know how to cvs checkout?
11:58:43spungyes, please
11:58:44spung:)
11:58:47spungi mean
11:58:49spunghuh
11:58:50spunglol
11:59:04spungteach me.. or point me to a tutorial
11:59:40dc_well, first run 'cvs login'
11:59:48dc_oh wait
11:59:54dc_goto the storm-pim sf page
12:00:07dc_click CVS
12:00:09spungerr.. is checkout downloading?
12:00:14dc_yeah
12:00:17spungoh
12:00:20spungthat i can i do :P
12:00:21dc_fro the first time
12:00:24dc_from cvs
12:00:41dc_spung: goto https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=44543
12:01:18dc_spung: and follow the first set of instructions for checking out
12:01:46dc_spung: then you can run 'cvs -d:ext:developername@cvs.storm-pim.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/storm-pim update' to update your cvs files
12:02:14dc_spung: make sure you're in the storm/ directory when you run cvs update
12:02:40dc_spung: then, when you edit a file, run cvs update, then cvs commit, add a comment, then it will merge it into the current cvs
12:03:22dc_spung: oh, with cvs update and cvs commit, always add in the -d bit aswell
12:03:31dc_spung: ...?
12:04:18dc_spung: also, once you've commited your stuff, run the cvs2cl.pl script
12:05:58dc_spung: if feel alright addin the time and seporator changes, I'll work on the other stuff
12:06:31spungok
12:06:37spungerr, i already commited
12:06:44spungnow i'm trying to run the script
12:06:50dc_:)
12:06:56spungwhat do i have to export to CVSROOT?
12:07:04dc_well, I tried to do that
12:07:08dc_but it doesn't work for me
12:07:16dc_just use the -d thing
12:07:18spungok
12:07:46dc_I run cvs -d:ext:dctanner@cvs.storm-pim.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/storm-pim update
12:08:02spungyes
12:08:04dc_spung: I must say, all the ideas you added to sf are very good :)
12:08:15spungwhat about the script
12:08:19spunghow do you run it?
12:08:25dc_just run perl cvs2cl.pl
12:08:32dc_inside storm/
12:09:05spungok
12:09:06spungdone
12:09:06dc_spung: btw, have a look at ~/.storm/config/contacts and ~/.storm/config/config :)
12:09:11spungcheck it out
12:10:13spungdc_: hmm.. what's up with them
12:10:15spung?
12:11:09dc_spung: they're config files for contacts and config
12:11:12dc_spung: Prefs.
12:11:17dc_spung: :)
12:11:21spungyes, i know
12:11:25dc_spung: ah good
12:11:37spungbut why are you showing them to me?
12:11:40dc_spung: I thought you might not have looking on e of your comment
12:11:48dc_spung: but I understand now :}
12:11:53dc_is silly
12:11:59spung:)
12:12:14spungyou have to tell me which comment it was :) they are so many lol
12:13:34dc_n/m
12:13:35dc_}
12:13:49spungdc_: i have to go to my father's house.. brb he has net access and i can telnet into this box.. brb
12:13:53spungis away: not here
12:13:59dc_sure
12:14:35spung(i'll learn python on my way there... i installed Python CE and the html documentaion on my WinCE :(( ipaq
12:14:37spunglol
12:14:54dc_heeh
12:14:55dc_cool
12:14:57dc_:DS
13:01:13spung-dads_homedc_: hey
13:01:19spung-dads_homewhat's up?
13:01:28spung-dads_home:) i gotta go have lunch now, brb
13:01:32dc_:D
13:01:40dc_rearranging Today
13:01:44spung-dads_homenice
13:01:45dc_:)
13:02:00spung-dads_homei'll install an X server in this box and try to check it out
13:02:05spung-dads_homebrb
13:02:37dc_cool
13:02:40dc_hehe
13:25:59spung-dads_homeback
13:26:11dc_:)
13:26:12spung-dads_homeand installing Cygwin/XFree86
13:26:28dc_working on more info for TOday like phone number and email
13:26:42spung-dads_homefor owner info?
13:27:03dc_yep
13:27:12dc_with a little arrow to hide and isplay it
13:27:14dc_display
13:27:21spung-dads_homebrilliant
13:27:22spung-dads_home:)
13:27:37spung-dads_homeIMHO, name and phone could display automatically
13:28:02spung-dads_homeand the rest of the information (address, email, etc.. in that hidden thing)
13:31:37dc_okay :)
13:36:24spung-dads_homedc_: do you like the horizontal lines?
13:36:34dc_yep :D
13:54:06spung-dads_homedamn, this box is running out of disk space
13:55:40dc_ouch
13:55:49spung-dads_home1GB of HD
13:55:53dc_:/
13:56:02spung-dads_homeboy, do i love my 40GB drive
13:59:11spung-dads_homedamn, i can't leave
13:59:27spung-dads_homes/leave/believe
13:59:31spung-dads_homethis
13:59:42spung-dads_homenow that Xfree86 is finishing installation
13:59:47spung-dads_homei have to go out
13:59:49spung-dads_homeahhrrg
14:07:40dc_spung: heh
14:07:56dc_spung: anyway, I got the more info tab working, it's looking good ;)
15:46:30dc_hey cmarqu
15:46:38cmarqudc_: Hey.
15:46:48cmarquBBIAB, coffee.
15:47:35dc_:D
17:53:39spung-dads_homeyey
17:54:29spung-dads_homei've been a victim of "father wants to spend some 'quality' time with his son"
17:54:29spung-dads_home:\
18:02:02dc_oh dear ;)
18:03:25spung-dads_homeyou mean, oh my fucking god
18:04:04spung-dads_homeit's freaking late... haven't done anything useful this afternoon
18:04:19spung-dads_homedc_: what have you done with storm so far?
18:04:47dc_spung-dads_home: improved tasks, and appointments a bit on TOday
18:04:56spung-dads_homenice
18:05:00dc_spung-dads_home: and watched half of Stargate :D
18:05:03dc_hehe
18:05:08spung-dads_homecan you send me a screenshot?
18:05:24dc_okay..
18:06:08spung-dads_homeslaps spung around a bit with a large trout
18:06:14spung-dads_home(mirc is so lame)
18:08:01dc_heh, yeah.
18:11:41dc_spung-dads_home: got it?
18:11:48dc_spung-dads_home: DCC
18:19:49spung-dads_homedc_: sorry, i was on the phone
18:19:55spung-dads_homecould you send it again?
18:22:05dc_spung-dads_home: one thing I whould like to do is have nice looking email previews like evolution (from your comment)
18:22:13dc_spung-dads_home: I had a go at it a while ago
18:22:29dc_spung-dads_home: it was becoming a tad hard to be able to render it.
18:24:53spung-dads_home:\
18:25:05spung-dads_homehave a look at the evolution source
18:25:05dc_:/
18:25:16dc_spung-dads_home: I think that's html rendering
18:25:17spung-dads_homeit might be dificult to find that code tho :\
18:25:21spung-dads_homeyes
18:25:25spung-dads_homeyou might be right
18:25:28spung-dads_homegtkhtml
18:25:36dc_spung-dads_home: but that whould probly be overkill for Storm
18:25:40spung-dads_homeyeah
18:25:45spung-dads_homewas going to say that
18:27:06spung-dads_homehow did you try to di it?
18:27:28dc_with GtkDrawingArea
18:27:30dc_I think
18:27:40dc_but it wasn't quite what we wanted.
18:27:54dc_we could use dillo (web browser) that's quite small.
18:28:03dc_but html emails are just evil anyway
18:29:39spung-dads_homeis dillo embedable?
18:29:49dc_no :]
18:29:54dc_but we could prossibly make it
18:30:04spung-dads_homenahhh
18:30:09dc_indeed.
18:30:18spung-dads_homedoesn't familiar ship with gtkhtml?
18:30:22spung-dads_homeis it slow?
18:30:42dc_hmm
18:30:45dc_I wonder
18:31:22spung-dads_homeanyway, where did you put the GtkDrawingAre? inside the text box?
18:32:31dc_inside a scrolled window
18:32:33dc_inside a scrolled window
18:32:36dc_bah
18:32:45dc_but I couldn't work out how to draw :/
18:33:43dc_bah
18:33:47dc_Storm's getting big :)
18:34:13dc_someday we'll have to do a C rewrite :/
18:34:23spung-dads_homelol :\
18:34:52dc_that could take some time ;)
18:35:07spung-dads_homei thought about that... all those suggestions.. they could make Storm bloated
18:35:08dc_python isn't the fastest language in the world
18:35:11spung-dads_homei hope not :\
18:35:17dc_don't worry ;)
18:36:32dc_probly be worth splitting them up into different apps, with some comms syste,
18:36:35dc_system
18:37:37spung-dads_homehow would that make it faster?
18:43:44dc_it's load up faster
18:44:02dc_it'll
18:44:09dc_plus C, is alot faster than python
18:44:19spung-dads_homeyeah,
18:44:28spung-dads_homelet's code Storm in StrongArm ASM
18:44:34spung-dads_homethat would be fun
18:44:38dc_YEAH!
18:44:39dc_W00T
18:44:41dc_:D
18:44:42dc_bbl.
18:44:50spung-dads_home[]
19:13:44spung-dads_homepff
19:13:50spung-dads_homeso much trouble installing X
19:13:59spung-dads_homeVNC is so much better
19:17:00spung-dads_homedc_: trouble :P
19:17:02spung-dads_homeTraceback (most recent call last):
19:17:02spung-dads_home  File "/usr/local/lib/storm/storm.py", line 369, in ?
19:17:02spung-dads_home    storm = Storm()
19:17:02spung-dads_home  File "/usr/local/lib/storm/storm.py", line 107, in __init__
19:17:02spung-dads_home    self.today = Today(self)
19:17:02spung-dads_home  File "/usr/local/lib/storm/modules/today.py", line 150, in __init__
19:17:04spung-dads_home    self.parent.config["path"]["storm"] + "/pixmaps/down-arrow.xpm")
19:17:06spung-dads_home  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/gtk.py", line 2781, in create_pixmap_from_xpm
19:17:08spung-dads_home    bg, xpm)
19:17:10spung-dads_homeIOError: can't load pixmap
19:17:37dcha
19:17:40dcsilly me
19:17:41dcone se
19:17:42dcsec
19:17:45spung-dads_home:)
19:24:45spung-dads_homegotta go
19:24:48spung-dads_homebbl
21:55:26spungdc: sorry could you tell me the CVS commands again? :)
21:56:06spungi'm sure you have them writen somwhere
21:56:24dc:)
21:56:31dc cvs -d:ext:dctanner@cvs.storm-pim.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/storm-pim commit
21:56:33dcand update
21:56:44dcbut with your sf username obviously
21:56:56dcI'm just recoding some of contacts.py
21:56:57spungdah
21:56:59spung:)
21:57:18dcso we can have a sort by adc, def, ghi etc... buttons
21:57:24spung=)
21:57:28spungyou rock
21:57:36spungand you really enjoy coding don't you?
21:57:43dcyep :D
21:57:50dcevery second I get.
21:57:55dcit's a fun filled life ;)
21:58:13dcI hate to think what it does to my eyesight though
21:58:32spungyeah, i started wearing glasses a few months ago
21:58:45dchow old are you?
21:58:47spungbut my illness is like my father's the doctor said
21:59:00spungso.. it probably has little to do with computers
21:59:02spungi'm 17
21:59:10dclucky you then
21:59:36spunglucky me.. it was a depressing thing starting to wear glasses.. :)
21:59:41dcI can't believe some guys who are like 40 and still don't need glasses after using linxu from 1.0
21:59:49spungeheh
21:59:55dcyou'll get used to them
22:00:03spungyeah, i'm used to them already
22:00:06dcI tend to love them, mainly because they help me see!
22:00:13spungyeah, you bet
22:00:27dcsomeday I'll get laser treatment, so it's not _really_ a problem
22:00:39spungwhat I don't like is what computers do to my back
22:00:44dcack, same
22:00:48dcmostly I'm ok
22:00:55dctoday my tailbone hurts
22:01:13dcbut a bit of yoga and situps does the trick ;p
22:01:20spung=)
22:01:24spungyou do yoga?
22:01:33dcI try my best
22:01:42spungnice, what are your hobbies?
22:01:43dcpolatais it better.
22:01:52dcbah, I can't spell though
22:02:03dcthinks
22:02:08dcprogramming...
22:02:14dcprogramming..
22:02:15spungduh :)
22:02:16dcguitar.
22:02:23dcprograming.
22:02:31dcand forcefull school.
22:02:55dcyou do anything other ;)
22:03:26dcthe thing I'm most scared of getting is cts
22:03:27spungahh.. guitar.. i play electric bass, and double bass (upright)
22:03:32spungmostly jazz
22:03:38dchhe cool
22:04:14spungthe double bass, kills my legs (cuz I play standing) and my fingers.. ouch
22:05:19dcouw
22:05:37spungi play on bars friday/saturday night
22:05:46spungfrom time to time
22:05:48spungit's nice
22:05:52dccool
22:05:54spungfree drinks, some money, eheh
22:05:55dcsounds fun
22:05:58dc:)
22:12:55spungdc__: what languages do you know?
22:13:02spung(programming)
22:16:10dc__spung: err, PHP, Python, C, C++, Perl..
22:16:18dc__spung: a few :/
22:23:01spungi don't like perl much
22:23:12dc__same
22:23:18dc__I read a book on it
22:23:27dc__:/
22:23:31dc__but I love python :D
22:23:35dc__okay
22:23:43dc__spung: checkout cvs and look at the new contact!!
22:23:45dc__:D
22:23:54dc__the wonderfull feeling of success
22:25:46dc__spung: have a look at the shot if you like http://213.78.121.226/storm.png
22:26:05spungeheh
22:26:23spungchecking it out
22:29:59spungdc__: why does Today say i have 2 active tasks when in fact i have four?
22:31:16dc__spung: errr.
22:31:17dc__lemme see
22:32:43spunglol
22:32:46spungnow that's nice
22:32:51dc__:)
22:33:00dc__spung: plus, update again
22:33:04spungnow instead of a new appointment being added one hour later
22:33:09spungit is added two hours later
22:33:11spungbrilliant
22:33:12spunglol
22:33:21dc__spung: scrollbars are only shown if needed
22:33:28dc__spung: yeah,, great isn't it :}
22:33:35dc__spung: cmarqu did that
22:33:48dc__spung: he's tring to work out how to get it working _right_
22:33:56spung=)
22:34:49spungwhat fields show up in the owner info in today should be a preferences options :)
22:36:24dc__spung: heh
22:36:39dc__spung: I'm not sure if we want to get that configurble
22:37:10spunghm.. i don't want e-mail shown in today.. IMO it's wasting precious space :)
22:37:10dc__spung: okay, tasks counting should be fixed
22:37:18dc__spung: hah!
22:37:27dc__spung: what if you lose you're iPAQ.
22:37:31dc__spung: oh I knoew
22:37:35spung:)
22:37:44spungmost people won't email me about that
22:37:46dc__spung: if the field are empty, we won't show them
22:37:50spungyes!
22:37:54spunggood idea
22:37:55dc__:)
22:37:58dc__2 secs.
22:38:01dc__I'll do it
22:38:09spungno need for that arrow
22:38:11spungthen
22:38:19dc__I want an arror
22:38:22dc__arrow
22:38:23spungeheh
22:38:25dc__:D
22:38:26dc__hehe
22:38:34dc__spung: it's just for address
22:38:43spungyeah
22:38:47spungaddress is useful
22:38:47dc__spung: since either way, the address whould be way to long
22:38:51dc__:}
22:38:54spungright
22:39:19spungdc__: the buttons in the contacts... they will overlap in landscape mode :\
22:39:49dc__spung: shouldn't
22:40:00spungwhy?
22:40:05dc__that gtk theme?
22:40:10dc__on my pc they don't
22:40:14dc__dunno about iPAQ
22:40:20dc__lemme try
22:40:21spungyeah
22:40:23dc__ina sec
22:40:25spungdunno
22:40:36spungmy fonts are messed up thru VNC
22:41:14dc__ah, ha ;p
22:44:46dc__spung: oh dear http://melvin.hadasht.free.fr/home/dillo/xid/index.html
22:44:55dc__spung: look like it may be a option after all ;D
22:45:04dc__spung: bloat here we come
22:45:29dc__to funnly!
22:45:32dc__funny!
22:46:55spunghmm.. maybe it's not bloat
22:47:06spungmaybe it's the best pim ever
22:47:49dc__:D
22:47:58dc__we can finnaly have nice looking emails
22:48:12spungso it seems
22:48:54spungand that means you'll probably add support for evil html mails
22:49:12dc__no, no, no
22:49:16dc__probly not ;p
22:49:20dc__but anyway, hehe
22:49:26dc__we'll make pretty emails optional.
22:49:40dc__lets try it now...first I need to compile dillo with the patch
22:50:21spungoptional is good
22:50:25spungi like optional things
22:50:29dc__;)
22:51:05spungdc__: storm doesn't work right now.. what did you do? :)
22:51:36dc__spung: what errors?
22:52:01spunghome:/home/luis/Projects/storm# storm
22:52:01spungNo display information -- gtk_init not called
22:52:07spungfollowed by many errors
22:52:31dc__err
22:52:32dc__well
22:52:36dc__my cvs is fine..
22:52:37dc__one sec.
22:53:07dc__strange!
22:53:23dc__I think that could be vvnc?
22:54:01spunghmmm.. i did it stop working now?
22:54:11spungs/i/why
22:55:29spungdc__: never mind.. my bad
22:55:30dc__hrm
22:55:33dc__;p
22:55:41spungDISPLAY somehow disapeared
22:55:45dc__heh!
22:55:51dc__automagic
22:58:35spungdc__: stop what you're doing :) you have to fix this annoying thing
22:58:56dc__spung: oh yeah :)
22:58:58spungwhat charset do you use?
22:59:07dc__err.
22:59:14dc__spung: so you still have that problem?
22:59:23spungno, it's another thing
23:00:12spungcan you see these chars? ãâä
23:03:42dc__errr..
23:03:45dc__what ones?
23:04:26spunghmm a~, a^, a¨ <--
23:04:39spungyou know, chars with accents?
23:05:23dc__okay.
23:05:51dc__I'm kind of lost.
23:05:55spunglol
23:06:12spungok
23:06:16spunglet's start again
23:06:30dc__k.
23:06:50spunga´, `a, a~, a^ .. etc..
23:07:05spungdo you understand what are these characters?
23:08:23dc__:/
23:08:24dc__no.
23:08:33spunghmm..
23:08:36dc__I mean ^ is Ctrl
23:08:51spungno :) ^ is a circumflex
23:08:58dc__right :}
23:09:08spungwhere i come from you put them on top of other letters you know..
23:09:13dc__so, what's up with them
23:09:19dc__okay
23:09:24dc__yep
23:09:27spungyou know those kind of letters right?
23:09:59spungyou put them (´`
23:10:05spungyou put them (´`~^¨)
23:10:11spungon top of vowels
23:10:13spungaeiou :)
23:10:20dc__okay
23:10:22dc__yeah
23:10:42dc__is silly langs like french and spanish
23:10:47dc__or whatever
23:10:52spungportuguese :))
23:11:04dc__:P
23:11:06dc__hehe
23:11:07spungso, if i have someone in my contact list named A^ngela
23:11:15spungit shouldn't be the last item
23:11:28spungand it should showup when i click the "abc" button
23:11:34dc__ooooh
23:11:36dc__hmm.
23:11:49spungthat IS annoying :)
23:11:53dc__indeed.
23:12:01dc__I'm not sure how we access charsets like that.
23:12:15spungcontinue what you're doing
23:12:21spungi'll investigate a bit
23:12:23dc__okie dokie :}
23:21:21spungdc__: hmmm... i could swear i had seen some sort of standard function that would turn those weird (to you :P) chars into the simple vowels...
23:21:35spung:\ i can give their codes if you want
23:21:38spunghex codes
23:22:00dc__:/
23:22:11dc__I'm not sure how I could implement that into python
23:22:20spung\xHH ?
23:22:25dc__since it whould be sensible to find a global solution
23:22:34spungright
23:22:36dc__yeah
23:22:43dc__spung: searched the python docs?
23:22:57spungi know romanians for instance put , on the bottom of some letters
23:23:11spungdc__: yeah, but i'm a lousy searcher
23:26:30dc__spung: use the search engine then :D
23:27:06spung;)
23:27:58spunghttp://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-unicodedata.html <-- this might be it
23:28:07spungthe decomposition() thing...
23:28:12spungi'm not sure what it does
23:28:40spungor maybe not
23:28:44spungforget it :\
23:29:08dc__hmm
23:29:59spungwait
23:30:04spungit works
23:30:05spungmaybe
23:30:07spunglol
23:30:14spunglemme just f*cking try :)
23:33:09dc__:D
23:34:55spungit works
23:35:47spungit returns unicode value of the voewl + unicode value of the accent
23:39:12dc__hrmm
23:39:14dc__usefull
23:44:11spungfocus on that dillo thing
23:44:13spung:)
23:44:18spungi'll try to that myself
23:57:05spungdc__: what's modules/scribble.py ?
23:58:06dc__spung: it _was_ a scribble class
23:58:11dc__spung: you makign little drawings
23:58:13dc__spung: for
23:58:33dc__spung: in Notes, but python was to slow for useable drawing
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