| 00:00.50 | file[laptop] | ahhhh warmer |
| 00:02.36 | ChipX86 | I've got to say.. Intuit's customer/developer relations people are really good |
| 00:03.11 | ChipX86 | I've had this guy assigned to me, and he calls every few months wanting to know if I'm going to a conference, or if I'm working on anything QuickBooks-related these days |
| 00:04.41 | file[laptop] | scary |
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| 00:26.53 | Cae | mm, freebirds |
| 00:30.05 | lurgyman | mm |
| 00:30.07 | lurgyman | long walk |
| 00:31.28 | captain_proton | soo |
| 00:32.37 | scanline | :) |
| 00:32.57 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 00:33.02 | captain_proton | the biggest problem lied with propping it up against something metal |
| 00:33.11 | captain_proton | since when i inevitably missed the block of wood, i bent a tip :P |
| 00:33.22 | captain_proton | ChipX86: for throwing knives |
| 00:33.27 | ChipX86 | ooh, cool |
| 00:33.42 | ChipX86 | know any good brands I should get? It's on Rachael's Christmas wish-list |
| 00:33.53 | kergoth | captain_proton: ugh, i hate that |
| 00:34.01 | kergoth | captain_proton: used to have a board up against my cement garage wall |
| 00:37.25 | scanline | bleh |
| 00:37.34 | captain_proton | since shelfboard has the problem that it falls apart like any composite material when poked at |
| 00:37.44 | scanline | the output of 'cvs diff' isn't as helpful as usual, since the build system copies a bunch of local kernel headers over some that apparently were in CVS |
| 00:37.47 | captain_proton | ChipX86: if you're looking for really high quality, hibben |
| 00:38.05 | captain_proton | however, the ones i've got right now were $10 for the pair, and work well enough once sharpened |
| 00:38.27 | captain_proton | oh damn, i forgot to go dig around for the mics in the dlc on my way home |
| 00:38.28 | captain_proton | oh well |
| 00:39.33 | captain_proton | scanline: looks like ffmpeg encodes don't suffer the same quality problem, so i'll rerip the bttfs |
| 00:39.40 | scanline | yay |
| 00:40.38 | captain_proton | probably also have to redo nimh |
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| 00:41.47 | lurgyman | aieeeecheewawa |
| 00:41.48 | ChipX86 | .. |
| 00:41.49 | Cae | hmm |
| 00:42.05 | captain_proton | hmm, too short to be a major credit card number... |
| 00:42.12 | Cae | too long to be a social security number :) |
| 00:42.34 | lurgyman | too big to be pi |
| 00:44.32 | captain_proton | too long for a phone number, unless there's a country code |
| 00:44.37 | captain_proton | in which case they left off the + at the beginning |
| 00:45.19 | file[laptop] | it must be... something... yes... something |
| 00:45.20 | lurgyman | maybe they had a gerbil running across the top of their keyboard |
| 00:45.25 | captain_proton | could be |
| 00:46.50 | lurgyman | a really really long-legged gerbil |
| 00:48.44 | lurgyman | whee, it's squirrel nut zippers |
| 00:49.27 | captain_proton | ChipX86: there's a good selection here, if you're looking: http://extremely-sharp.com/es/catalog/knithrow.html |
| 00:49.58 | kergoth | mm, i've always liked hibben's designs |
| 00:51.00 | captain_proton | but i'm kind of biased, since he's a kenpo player |
| 00:51.02 | ChipX86 | not bad prices |
| 00:51.41 | ChipX86 | well, I can't compare to other stores, but I mean I can afford those |
| 00:54.35 | lurgyman | :p |
| 00:54.46 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:54.52 | Cae | ;) |
| 00:54.59 | captain_proton | Cae: pff, they don't make throwers |
| 00:55.28 | kergoth | decent balance |
| 00:55.30 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:55.42 | captain_proton | well, true |
| 00:55.55 | kergoth | man, that thing's got some weight to it too |
| 00:55.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:56.04 | captain_proton | but most fighting knives can't be thrown too well, since the weight is often in the handle |
| 00:56.28 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:57.39 | kergoth`bbl | california has some fucked weapons laws imho |
| 00:57.45 | ChipX86 | cya later kergoth |
| 00:57.50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:57.57 | ChipX86 | and yeah, that can be said for a lot of things :) |
| 00:58.00 | ChipX86 | (in California) |
| 00:58.24 | scanline | bleh, I am definitely going to want distcc and ccache |
| 00:58.36 | scanline | this build system is really funky |
| 00:59.13 | captain_proton | doesn't he have lab? |
| 00:59.20 | lurgyman | ah |
| 00:59.24 | lurgyman | could be |
| 00:59.24 | captain_proton | scanline: X and distcc aren't friends |
| 00:59.34 | scanline | hrmph |
| 00:59.39 | scanline | hmm... |
| 00:59.45 | scanline | and I already have ccache installed |
| 00:59.46 | lurgyman | much like OO.o and distcc |
| 01:00.09 | lurgyman | ccache and X should be ok, though |
| 01:01.11 | lurgyman | yipes |
| 01:01.12 | lurgyman | scary |
| 01:03.21 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:03.36 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:03.47 | scanline | looks like one of these here compiler options is disliked by ccache... |
| 01:04.00 | scanline | and I have no idea what 'make World' just did.. |
| 01:05.54 | scanline | what the hell... |
| 01:06.01 | scanline | it just filled this Makefile with garbage |
| 01:08.07 | lurgyman | wow |
| 01:08.10 | lurgyman | tres meaningful |
| 01:10.14 | captain_proton | scanline: liar! you've never done embedded anything! |
| 01:10.16 | captain_proton | *ahem* |
| 01:10.28 | scanline | I know, I lie like that all the time :) |
| 01:11.20 | scanline | ergh |
| 01:11.37 | scanline | I really should keep a clean X tree locally.. cvs diff is really painful |
| 01:13.08 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 01:13.11 | captain_proton | thats great |
| 01:14.40 | scanline | mmm tasty |
| 01:16.41 | lurgyman | so. the caterpillar has emerged from it's cacoon.... AS A SHARK! |
| 01:19.37 | scanline | hmm, yay for fiddling with mplayer's X connection |
| 01:19.37 | ChipX86 | http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/11313_InnerEarth.html |
| 01:19.42 | ChipX86 | ah, how the news can be interesting.. |
| 01:19.56 | captain_proton | scanline: evil |
| 01:20.40 | Cae | rofl |
| 01:20.53 | ChipX86 | read the whole thing. It's great. |
| 01:23.26 | ChipX86 | other articles: "Noah's Ark To Be Found on Mount Ararat," "Traveling in Time Becomes Possible," "KGB Unveils UFO Secrets?," "The Masters of Lightning" |
| 01:24.30 | gonk-iBook | yay for shaken heads! |
| 01:25.03 | gonk-iBook | wheeeHA |
| 01:25.15 | gonk-iBook | howdy Cae |
| 01:25.21 | Cae | howdy. |
| 01:25.23 | lurgyman | oh right... doesn't darth_mall have a calc test tonight? |
| 01:25.49 | lurgyman | that explains his gonness, i suppose |
| 01:26.13 | captain_proton | ah, indeed |
| 01:27.48 | lurgyman | when he gets back, we should watch some prisoner :) |
| 01:28.29 | lurgyman | why naturally |
| 01:29.34 | ChipX86 | yeah you do |
| 01:29.39 | gonk-iBook | Cae: bugs? |
| 01:29.41 | Cae | outside of horses, computers, and anything related to martial arts |
| 01:29.45 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 01:29.50 | gonk-iBook | uh huh... |
| 01:29.57 | ChipX86 | obsessions make the world go 'round |
| 01:29.59 | Cae | (which includes swords and other sharp pointy things) |
| 01:34.58 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: you should get scanline to volunteer for the ebola vaccine |
| 01:37.03 | lurgyman | gonk-iBook: sounds like a plan |
| 01:38.04 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: if he says no, tell him you will expose him to all of Excel Saga at the same time as Jungle while gluing his eyelids open |
| 01:38.37 | Cae | that's.. |
| 01:38.43 | Cae | that's inhumane.. |
| 01:38.56 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:38.57 | lurgyman | gonk-iBook: or just zardoz :) |
| 01:39.03 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: no.. thats too cruel |
| 01:39.13 | captain_proton | excel & jungle are now on the 2nd tier of weirdness |
| 01:39.24 | gonk-iBook | captain_proton: whats more weird than Jungle? |
| 01:39.26 | captain_proton | FLCL holds the title |
| 01:39.31 | gonk-iBook | ah |
| 01:39.45 | gonk-iBook | well, excel and jungle into one eye each with the sound of FLCL |
| 01:39.57 | captain_proton | mmmmmm |
| 01:40.03 | captain_proton | yay for the sound of FLCL =D |
| 01:40.59 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 01:55.29 | captain_proton | scanline: you've found a real winner with this guy |
| 01:55.59 | scanline | mmyep |
| 01:56.52 | scanline | mm, that smells good |
| 01:59.33 | captain_proton | yup |
| 01:59.36 | gonk-iBook | Cae: I am working on my homework |
| 01:59.38 | captain_proton | btw, i sharpened your chef's knive |
| 01:59.41 | captain_proton | err, knife |
| 01:59.49 | scanline | ooh, neat |
| 01:59.50 | Cae | you are not. |
| 02:00.55 | gonk-iBook | Cae: am so |
| 02:00.59 | scanline | wow.. there are a bunch of important-looking xfree settings being set to not-default values by gentoo, with the comment "required for Lokis Erics Ultimate Solitaire" |
| 02:01.25 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: what are you researching? |
| 02:01.34 | captain_proton | scanline: hahaha |
| 02:01.52 | scanline | things like... |
| 02:01.53 | lurgyman | gonk-iBook: carpet care |
| 02:01.54 | scanline | #define UseInternalMalloc NO |
| 02:01.55 | scanline | #define ForceNormalLib YES |
| 02:01.55 | scanline | #define SharedLibXxf86vm YES |
| 02:02.21 | scanline | I would really like to know what any of that has to do with a solitaire game |
| 02:02.30 | lurgyman | gonk-iBook: why, what are you researching? |
| 02:02.56 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: stimulating drinks made from high mountain condensation |
| 02:03.04 | lurgyman | i see |
| 02:03.07 | lurgyman | very interesting |
| 02:03.13 | captain_proton | scanline: you could track down the ebuild maintainer and ask |
| 02:03.23 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: both of our topics are quite rug'ged, no? |
| 02:03.36 | lurgyman | gonk-iBook: sure are |
| 02:04.50 | lurgyman | ooh, lookie |
| 02:05.10 | lurgyman | it's a fresh GtkFileChooser widget foto |
| 02:05.13 | lurgyman | http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-photos/2003-11-19-gtkfilechooser.png |
| 02:05.56 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 02:05.58 | captain_proton | a frobnicate setting |
| 02:06.00 | ChipX86 | yum |
| 02:06.14 | lurgyman | yep, frobnicate's still there |
| 02:06.26 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: sooo... any current events? |
| 02:07.05 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 02:07.09 | gonk-iBook | doh |
| 02:07.20 | gonk-iBook | lurgyman: I am out of battery, we can't continue trying to shock people |
| 02:08.07 | lurgyman | gonk-detached: they'll just become permanently unphaseable eventually |
| 02:09.39 | Cae | and now, to study. |
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| 02:11.40 | lurgyman | look ma, it's lalo |
| 02:12.59 | captain_proton | geez lalo |
| 02:13.13 | captain_proton | how will scanline ever convince people not to use picogui if you're commiting stuff right in front of them? |
| 02:13.54 | lalo | it should be noted that according to the geologists, the hills in Brazil are older than the ones in North America and Europe |
| 02:14.08 | lalo | captain_proton: I'm the opposition :-) |
| 02:14.56 | lalo | i find fun in making releases and writing documentation even when the lead developer says the project is dead. |
| 02:15.05 | captain_proton | =} |
| 02:15.13 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:17.25 | scanline | BucWheat in #picogui still doesn't know who I am :) |
| 02:19.01 | lalo | yet another case of "Linus who?" in the world? |
| 02:19.45 | scanline | not quite... |
| 02:19.59 | scanline | <scanline> I'm just some lunatic that badmouths picogui without having done anything for it really |
| 02:20.00 | scanline | :) |
| 02:20.45 | captain_proton | ooh neat |
| 02:20.55 | captain_proton | we've been averaging about 100K down for the last hour |
| 02:21.59 | lurgyman | sweet |
| 02:25.10 | lurgyman | wow, and look at that 140k spike |
| 02:25.28 | lurgyman | whoa, and a 200k spike |
| 02:28.08 | ChipX86 | 40 + 40 == 100 |
| 02:28.12 | ChipX86 | didn't you go to school? |
| 02:28.25 | lurgyman | oh right |
| 02:28.33 | lurgyman | it's network stuff, base 8 of course :) |
| 02:28.46 | captain_proton | :) |
| 02:34.39 | scanline | hm.. dinner.. |
| 02:35.12 | lurgyman | no dinner |
| 02:35.26 | lurgyman | and no dessert! |
| 02:39.38 | lurgyman | whee |
| 02:40.53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:41.07 | captain_proton | so the star trek encode seems to have worked without being ugly, but the av synch is all off |
| 02:43.49 | lurgyman | :( |
| 02:46.36 | lurgyman | captain_proton will become the master of encoding things spiffily |
| 02:47.32 | captain_proton | lurgyman: indeed :) |
| 02:53.38 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:53.54 | scanline | any way someone could throttle what they're downloading a bit.. or something? this cvs up is really running horribly slow |
| 02:54.19 | lurgyman | netwise |
| 02:54.25 | file[laptop] | double negative |
| 02:55.25 | scanline | wow yeah.. my connection to thinker is really laggy |
| 02:55.41 | captain_proton | scanline: i'm trying to get xchat's throttling to behave |
| 02:55.44 | captain_proton | but its cranky |
| 02:55.47 | captain_proton | i'll just cancel this for now |
| 02:55.50 | scanline | well |
| 02:55.57 | scanline | lemme see if I can make it go faster from school first |
| 02:56.09 | scanline | cvs is really cranky about high latency |
| 02:56.45 | file[laptop] | goodnight everyone |
| 02:57.10 | scanline | ooh, look at that cvs fly |
| 02:57.31 | scanline | well |
| 02:57.33 | scanline | relatively fly |
| 02:57.50 | ChipX86 | la la la, my rpmdb ate itself, la la la |
| 02:58.10 | lalo | if it flies relative to the ground, that's a good thing. |
| 02:58.26 | scanline | indeed |
| 02:58.34 | lalo | ChipX86: you know why rpm breaks so much? |
| 02:59.12 | scanline | gah... |
| 02:59.17 | lalo | it's karmic punishment. You're being punished by using rpm. |
| 02:59.18 | ChipX86 | I've heard many incorrect theories. I'm sure I get to hear another now |
| 02:59.22 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 02:59.25 | ChipX86 | I like rpm |
| 02:59.45 | ChipX86 | some of my stuff may be working its way into rpm in the future |
| 03:00.03 | lalo | therefore you deserve even harder punishment. |
| 03:00.07 | kergoth | I actually much prefer the .spec format to the debian rules/control format. far more centralized control of the metadata |
| 03:00.15 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah |
| 03:00.17 | lalo | beware, one of these days rpm will burn all your personal data. |
| 03:00.18 | scanline | it's like... a 2000 line switch statement full of memcpy() and odd pointer arithmetic |
| 03:00.24 | ChipX86 | lalo: yeah.. right |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.56 | lalo | kergoth: yes |
| 03:00.56 | ChipX86 | worse case scenario, I get Jeff to look into it, or I fix it myself |
| 03:00.56 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.58 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.00 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.02 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.04 | scanline | and it keeps going for a while.... |
| 03:01.08 | kergoth | debian source handling is a fucking mess |
| 03:01.24 | kergoth | i prefer the .deb/.ipk format though |
| 03:01.38 | kergoth | as compared with the .rpm format |
| 03:01.40 | ChipX86 | there are aspects of both that I like |
| 03:01.44 | ChipX86 | the deb/ipk format is indeed simpler |
| 03:02.08 | carpman | scanline: thats.... |
| 03:02.13 | carpman | scanline: I don't have a word for that |
| 03:02.15 | ChipX86 | however, I do not like the debian package database |
| 03:02.24 | ChipX86 | nor do I like rpm's, really.. I prefer my own |
| 03:02.28 | kergoth | i dont like it much either |
| 03:02.35 | kergoth | apt-get, gotta love apt-get regardless of whats behind the scenes ;) |
| 03:02.37 | lalo | it's the package databases that suck |
| 03:02.44 | ChipX86 | and now that rpm works again (yay for rpmdb's --rebuilddb method, which has never failed me), I can get back to installing this |
| 03:02.46 | scanline | captain_proton: keep in mind that switch statement is still inside the big 2000 line one |
| 03:02.47 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yes |
| 03:02.48 | scanline | er |
| 03:02.50 | carpman | apt ownz |
| 03:02.52 | lalo | or actually |
| 03:02.53 | scanline | carpman |
| 03:02.56 | kergoth | i'd like to see an apt-src that builds based on a .ebuild/.oe format |
| 03:02.58 | lalo | it's the package databases that suck the worst |
| 03:02.58 | ChipX86 | kergoth: though I hope to replace it with gpkg, if I ever get libcomprex working right again |
| 03:02.58 | kergoth | thatd be fucking smooth |
| 03:03.01 | carpman | scanline: oh... my |
| 03:03.10 | ChipX86 | then it wouldn't matter what format or database I'm working with |
| 03:03.34 | kergoth | abstracted out the backend? |
| 03:03.38 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:03.38 | lalo | but I dislike rpm's UI too |
| 03:03.47 | carpman | scanline: so... this guy has never heard of structured programing |
| 03:03.50 | lalo | I mean, the CLI |
| 03:04.05 | kergoth | same, i prefer dpkg/ipkg's syntax |
| 03:04.11 | scanline | carpman: I've come to think that there are no decent programmers at all at spacegrant |
| 03:04.12 | ChipX86 | the GNUpdate framework has an abstracted compression/decompression library (libcomprex), an abstracted package management library (libpackman), some other useful util libraries, and then gpkg |
| 03:04.21 | kergoth | and man, --get-selections/--set-selections is great :) |
| 03:04.28 | ChipX86 | but it's trivial to write a program that deals with packages using libpackman. An ipkg/dpkg wrapper would be cake |
| 03:04.35 | scanline | carpman: I had a chance to see some of the lead programmer's code last night when I got dragged in to see if his code worked with my libraries and hardware |
| 03:04.38 | ChipX86 | even though not every aspect could be supported yet |
| 03:04.50 | kergoth | ChipX86: do you have a digraph structure / handling library for dependencies yet? |
| 03:04.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:04.57 | carpman | scanline: was it... gotos? |
| 03:04.58 | kergoth | I was discussing the subject with carl worth a while back |
| 03:05.01 | ChipX86 | it doesn't work for uninstalling yet |
| 03:05.02 | kergoth | for oe/ipkg |
| 03:05.07 | scanline | carpman: my library had a fairly straightforward design... all errors were handled with callbacks, most functions took a device pointer, buffer pointer, and buffer length as arguments |
| 03:05.17 | ChipX86 | the project has been on hold for awhile, due to libcomprex being horribly broken. Now it's getting a rewrite. |
| 03:05.22 | scanline | carpman: he was going on about how funky it was to interface it to his code that used std::string all over |
| 03:05.30 | scanline | carpman: he was wondering why it was segfaulting... |
| 03:05.36 | carpman | scanline: *VOMIT* |
| 03:05.39 | scanline | carpman: he pointed me to something like this: |
| 03:05.44 | scanline | char *foo; |
| 03:05.46 | kergoth | ChipX86: is the dependency handling / digraph independent of your backend libraries, or tightly bound? |
| 03:05.50 | scanline | strcpy(foo, some_random_binary_data); |
| 03:06.02 | carpman | you've got to be kidding me! |
| 03:06.05 | scanline | nope |
| 03:06.10 | carpman | you can't DO that! |
| 03:06.15 | scanline | so then he tried: |
| 03:06.18 | scanline | char *foo=""; |
| 03:06.21 | ChipX86 | kergoth: they deal with the structures the backend libs generate. All you'd have to do is write another backend lib, or just manually register a plugin structure in the program using libpackman, and have it pass the dependency structs to it |
| 03:06.21 | carpman | !!?1 |
| 03:06.22 | carpman | l;kjf:LK |
| 03:06.38 | carpman | scanline: kill him |
| 03:06.42 | carpman | PLEASE! |
| 03:06.47 | kergoth | scanline: haha |
| 03:06.47 | carpman | For the sake of all mankind! |
| 03:06.48 | ChipX86 | the entire framework is going to get a rewrite though, so any code currently written against it would need to be rewritten. I'm also requiring glib2, as it's just easier than having to reimplement everything under the sun |
| 03:06.48 | scanline | then I told him you could just cast a std::string's cstr() return value to (unsigned char*) |
| 03:07.02 | kergoth | ChipX86: bleh, i hate glib2, but i see why you use it |
| 03:07.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:07.05 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 03:07.09 | ChipX86 | I fought with it for months |
| 03:07.20 | ChipX86 | but in the end, it became too much of a pain to maintain my own lib and object framework |
| 03:07.20 | scanline | carpman: he's a nice guy, just doesn't understand C very well apparently |
| 03:07.25 | kergoth | i wish qt's data structures were in a seperate lgpl lib, thatd make me happy |
| 03:07.30 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 03:07.34 | scanline | carpman: though I do get really annoyed at some of his design decisions |
| 03:07.49 | carpman | scanline: understandable |
| 03:07.53 | scanline | carpman: for the past few months he's been working on this tool to send packets to our hardware for testing... |
| 03:08.03 | scanline | carpman: it would be a couple hundred lines of python at most, including a fancy GUI |
| 03:08.11 | carpman | yeah |
| 03:08.19 | scanline | carpman: so he started writing this thing in perl... with some sort of preprocessed perl source for the config format |
| 03:08.21 | kergoth | ChipX86: I'm doing a new c++ backend library for the OE build tools. it consists of a lot more than just the digraph, but thats one piece I need. might have to look at your stuff |
| 03:08.33 | scanline | carpman: then he decides to rewrite it in C++, since perl's threading wasnt' good enough for his ncurses frontend |
| 03:08.35 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 03:08.42 | Xentac | kergoth: what's digraph? |
| 03:08.42 | carpman | hehe |
| 03:08.47 | carpman | just didn't know how to use it |
| 03:08.50 | scanline | now he's written his own ncurses widget set and he has some C-like parser for the config file |
| 03:08.57 | kergoth | Xentac: directed graph |
| 03:09.00 | scanline | and it still doesn't send the damn packets very well |
| 03:09.11 | Xentac | ah... hmmm... |
| 03:09.13 | kergoth | Xentac: structure whose relationships have direction. this depends on that. that depends on this. |
| 03:09.18 | scanline | it's not even in CVS yet so I can fully examine it |
| 03:09.30 | kergoth | hehe, just checking |
| 03:09.35 | carpman | scanline: perl's threads are better than pythons threads. They're quite C like if I remember. |
| 03:09.39 | Xentac | I just thought digraph might be like some library or something ;) |
| 03:09.43 | kergoth | i was surprised that there wasnt a decent implementation somewhere |
| 03:09.44 | scanline | carpman: yeah, from what I remember |
| 03:09.51 | kergoth | Xentac: yeah, i figured there would be one, but never found it |
| 03:09.54 | scanline | carpman: but he seems to be the sort of person to blame the tools when he has a problem |
| 03:10.02 | scanline | carpman: he was blaming my API for all sorts of things he was doing wrong |
| 03:10.03 | carpman | scanline: ugh. I hate that. |
| 03:10.10 | Xentac | strange... |
| 03:10.25 | Xentac | I once saw a bunch of rpm dependencies mapped out... I can't remember what was used there... |
| 03:10.27 | ChipX86 | that's what I like about this project. I've had to learn an insane amount... graphs, B*Trees, designing a database format, ar, tar, zip, rpm, deb/ipk, RDF, to name a few |
| 03:10.40 | scanline | mmmmm... B*Trees.... |
| 03:10.51 | kergoth | yeah, thats cool |
| 03:10.52 | ChipX86 | fun stuff. Well, I didn't think so when I first wrote it |
| 03:11.00 | scanline | though when I was looking at B*Trees for jetstream, I ended up just using berkeley DB |
| 03:11.32 | Xentac | ChipX86: what is this for...? |
| 03:11.43 | ChipX86 | my package management framework, GNUpdate |
| 03:11.54 | Xentac | ah |
| 03:12.12 | kergoth | ChipX86: thats what i loved about OZ too, the variety. delved into pretty much every aspect of a functional system |
| 03:12.13 | ChipX86 | started it a few years back.. got some funding from LinuxFund.. and earlier this year, I broke libcomprex, and couldn't get it working with the current design, so it's been on hold ever since :/ |
| 03:12.19 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yeah :) |
| 03:12.26 | carpman | scanline: oh, I got a wxPython AoF object working last night. |
| 03:12.31 | kergoth | keeps it interesting |
| 03:12.36 | carpman | scanline: everything was cool until I tried it on OSX |
| 03:12.44 | scanline | heh |
| 03:12.56 | Xentac | it's quite like that with most system/distribution design... |
| 03:13.03 | ChipX86 | how's progress on OZ going, btw? I know you've been asked this a lot, I'm sure, but are there plans to see a release sometime? |
| 03:13.03 | carpman | scanline: aparently, even being NEAR a thread in OSX causes all the redraws to stop. |
| 03:13.07 | Xentac | I see the same sort of stuff doing Archlinux stuff |
| 03:13.15 | scanline | argh, what is up with this... |
| 03:13.16 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.17 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.17 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.17 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.17 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.18 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.22 | lurgyman | captain_proton: you'll be happy to know that after months of quality use, the old Ctrl+Insert, Ctrl+PgDn etc. system of switching workspaces is now obsolete |
| 03:13.23 | scanline | haven't they heard of parameters? |
| 03:13.29 | kergoth | ChipX86: the plan is to release 3.3.5 with 2.4.18 (stock sharp, old drivers, but functional) within 1-3 weeks |
| 03:13.35 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 03:13.40 | captain_proton | lurgyman: hehe |
| 03:13.41 | kergoth | ChipX86: then we complete the transition to the new system and release 3.5.1 |
| 03:13.48 | carpman | lol |
| 03:13.52 | ChipX86 | looking forward to it :) |
| 03:13.59 | kergoth | ChipX86: skipping 3.4 completely to express just how drastic this change is, continuing to be a developent branch |
| 03:14.05 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 03:14.05 | kergoth | then thatll become 3.6 |
| 03:14.16 | kergoth | the other related projects will do something similar |
| 03:14.19 | kergoth | openipaq, opensimpad |
| 03:14.19 | lurgyman | captain_proton: now it's just plain number pad :) |
| 03:14.22 | kergoth | independent versioning though |
| 03:14.46 | ChipX86 | I've got to say, I've enjoyed my Zaurii much more after switching to OZ |
| 03:14.59 | carpman | scanline: voyager 1 passed the heliopause a few days ago. If people like this are building sattelites now, I don't think we'll ever go there again. :) |
| 03:15.25 | scanline | carpman: well, this is a student organization, not NASA |
| 03:15.52 | carpman | scanline: with NASA's current budget, it's not long until they ARE NASA. |
| 03:16.15 | scanline | you couldn't run a hamburger stand for our budget |
| 03:16.31 | scanline | s/for/with/ |
| 03:17.52 | carpman | mmmf. sleep |
| 03:17.57 | carpman | night all |
| 03:18.13 | lalo | night carpman |
| 03:19.55 | lurgyman | night carpman |
| 03:20.43 | ChipX86 | kergoth: hey, since qpe-gaim takes have an eternity to launch due to libgaim's XML processing, would it be considered bad to provide a boot screen? |
| 03:20.49 | ChipX86 | so people know it's actually running> |
| 03:21.34 | kergoth | i see nothing wrong with that, if you have an option to disable it if the user gets annoyed by it |
| 03:21.43 | ChipX86 | yeah, definitely |
| 03:21.56 | lalo | what's a dasher? |
| 03:22.14 | lurgyman | it's a mouse-motion-driven text entry system |
| 03:22.27 | ChipX86 | it's very... interesting |
| 03:22.35 | lalo | free? url? :-) |
| 03:22.39 | captain_proton | s/interesting/neat/ |
| 03:22.49 | lalo | I'm looking for one |
| 03:23.01 | lalo | quikwrite is good but I believe it's possible to do better |
| 03:23.02 | lurgyman | http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ |
| 03:23.14 | lalo | thx |
| 03:23.17 | lurgyman | free indeed :) |
| 03:23.22 | ChipX86 | Japanese dasher. Neat. |
| 03:24.02 | lurgyman | heheh |
| 03:25.57 | lalo | and an ebuild even. neato |
| 03:26.40 | lurgyman | yep |
| 03:26.54 | lurgyman | wheeeee, 25 wpm |
| 03:28.13 | captain_proton | mmmm |
| 03:28.25 | captain_proton | yay for the barber violin concerto having one of the most beautiful second movements ever |
| 03:31.05 | lalo | apparently not |
| 03:31.17 | captain_proton | poor lalo :( |
| 03:34.40 | lurgyman | heh |
| 03:34.42 | lurgyman | that's fun as well |
| 03:34.45 | lurgyman | it almost spells things |
| 03:37.00 | scanline | "llamas quickly eat diabolical pineapples under the sea" |
| 03:37.30 | captain_proton | dasher is sort of like a ouiji board |
| 03:37.41 | captain_proton | it writes what your subconsious wants to write :) |
| 03:37.42 | scanline | how do you do punctuation? |
| 03:37.50 | captain_proton | scanline: you have to change the alphabet |
| 03:39.01 | lalo | isn't this thing too big for a pda? |
| 03:39.38 | lalo | screen-wise I mean |
| 03:40.32 | kergoth | there's an opie dasher input method iirc. |
| 03:40.35 | kergoth | dunno if its usable |
| 03:41.32 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 03:42.07 | kergoth | captain_proton: install it then :P |
| 03:42.20 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:42.41 | captain_proton | (its in a book...) |
| 03:43.05 | kergoth | not on zsi, wonder if its in the opie feeds |
| 03:46.56 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "amusing. do a 'last' on 'nsa' vs 'csel-app'... lusers appear to be afraid to death of freebsd. Oooh, i didn't realize it. |
| 03:46.57 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.57 | captain_proton | david [to dowdy]: maybe they're hyperthreading? |
| 03:46.57 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "so, what's that mean, and would it present as 4 cpus in /proc/cpuinfo?" |
| 03:46.57 | captain_proton | You say, "its basically two sets of registers on the same chip, with shared cache - and it would indeed show up as 4 cpus in a 2-cpu box" |
| 03:46.59 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "OOOOH, It's RAM-Doubler for CPU! Another deceptive marketing practice hard at work." |
| 03:47.03 | captain_proton | You say, "yep, got the "ht" flag" |
| 03:47.05 | captain_proton | dowdy says, "I was starting to worry about how a flimsy 2U box could deal with the heat disapation" |
| 03:48.58 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:49.01 | scanline | "hi, how are you? Is your pickle squeaking yet, or is it just a little door in the mobile lizard? My need for possible books still sings." |
| 03:49.24 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:53.15 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lalo -> My need for possible books still sings. |
| 03:55.47 | scanline | argh, this is beautifil |
| 03:55.51 | scanline | er, beautifl |
| 03:55.52 | scanline | bah |
| 03:55.57 | scanline | this is so evil it's messing up my typing |
| 03:56.01 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:56.14 | scanline | apparently if there's an error in converting the imakefiles to makefiles, it does a make clean |
| 03:56.22 | scanline | and covers up any possible error messages with a billion lines of rm commands |
| 03:58.12 | captain_proton | lurgyman: ? |
| 04:00.00 | lurgyman | captain_proton: i sent off an email to the costa rican trombone quartet asking for help looking for help in our quest for a list of solo trombone works by latino composers |
| 04:00.07 | lurgyman | er |
| 04:00.08 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 04:00.09 | lurgyman | yeah |
| 04:00.23 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:00.46 | scanline | oh my... |
| 04:00.48 | scanline | case "$$itmp" in \ |
| 04:00.48 | scanline | */?*/?*/?*/?*)newtop=../../../../..;; \ |
| 04:00.48 | scanline | */?*/?*/?*)newtop=../../../..;; \ |
| 04:00.48 | scanline | */?*/?*)newtop=../../..;; \ |
| 04:00.48 | scanline | */?*)newtop=../..;; \ |
| 04:00.49 | scanline | *)newtop=..;; \ |
| 04:00.51 | scanline | esac; \ |
| 04:00.53 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:01.01 | lalo | you're kidding |
| 04:01.14 | scanline | xmakefile, line 1204 :P |
| 04:01.22 | kergoth | oh, old x sources? |
| 04:01.27 | scanline | current CVS |
| 04:01.37 | lalo | so scanline thought the arch commandline was barroque |
| 04:01.41 | lurgyman | captain_proton: mostly i just tried to avoid sounding like rick steves ;) |
| 04:01.49 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 04:01.51 | lalo | this thing wants me to type SHA hashes... |
| 04:01.55 | scanline | kergoth: aren't they just using auto* as a frontend to imake still? |
| 04:03.27 | scanline | ah, looks like it all uses auto*, but they haven't deleted the Imakefiles yet |
| 04:04.09 | kergoth | yeah, a work in progress |
| 04:04.16 | kergoth | coming along well, i like that they split the libs all up |
| 04:04.18 | kergoth | yay for granularity |
| 04:04.20 | scanline | indeed |
| 04:06.01 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:06.06 | kergoth | thatd be cool |
| 04:06.25 | scanline | geez.. it's no wonder that nobody does anything interesting with the X source tree.. this build system is disgusting |
| 04:06.51 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:06.59 | kergoth | crosscompiliing it is amusing |
| 04:07.10 | scanline | the number of times make and imake get into mutual recursion is probably enough :P |
| 04:07.12 | kergoth | it cant handle arm-linux-gcc, so everybody creates a big old pile of symlinks and adds that dir to the path |
| 04:10.37 | scanline | SpecialCLibObjectRuleSeparateOpts(lcInit,$(ICONFIGFILES),$(_NOOP_),$(LC_DYNDEFINES)) |
| 04:10.49 | kergoth | haha |
| 04:10.51 | kergoth | eek |
| 04:10.59 | kergoth | m4 is growing on me |
| 04:11.01 | kergoth | should i be scared? |
| 04:11.06 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:11.22 | scanline | haven't used m4 much, but I haven't seen anything wrong with it |
| 04:11.29 | scanline | it's just how auto* uses it |
| 04:11.33 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:12.03 | kergoth | what really annoys me, is the fact that everybody goes to blah-config or pkg-config |
| 04:12.10 | kergoth | when they could already just use a pkgname.m4 with a damn macro to locat eit |
| 04:12.17 | kergoth | why reinvent that particular wheel? |
| 04:12.29 | kergoth | so now we have some using one, some using the other, some using both |
| 04:12.32 | kergoth | its a damn mess |
| 04:13.11 | scanline | well, the blah-config scripts are nice if you don't want to use autoconf at all |
| 04:13.23 | kergoth | yeah, i actually _prefer_ pkg-config |
| 04:13.46 | scanline | well yeah, it's a lot better than autoconf's approaches to locating things |
| 04:13.47 | kergoth | but it seems like it just fractures things further |
| 04:13.49 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:14.38 | scanline | why does this makefile look like the output of cpp.... |
| 04:14.39 | kergoth | people use autoconf macros for shit it shouldve have been used for |
| 04:14.44 | kergoth | its so flexible its easily abused |
| 04:14.55 | kergoth | s/shouldve/shouldntve/ |
| 04:16.21 | scanline | urgh |
| 04:17.09 | lalo | nah |
| 04:17.29 | lalo | autoconf+automake+make must die a horrible screaming flaming death ASAP. |
| 04:17.54 | kergoth | heh, we wish |
| 04:18.50 | captain_proton | m4 is nice |
| 04:18.52 | captain_proton | autotools aren't :P |
| 04:19.54 | lalo | m4 is a hack from the 70s that lingered around past its time |
| 04:29.23 | scanline | har... |
| 04:29.25 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.27 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.29 | scanline | but "dhcpcd eth0" works fine |
| 04:29.55 | scanline | make World CFLAGS=-fPIC LDFLAGS=-shared |
| 04:30.16 | kergoth | scanline: ew |
| 04:31.07 | captain_proton | hmm, another gaggle of buff bulletins |
| 04:33.33 | lurgyman | yep |
| 04:33.55 | kergoth | borredd |
| 04:35.49 | Cae|Study | go play with sharp things then |
| 04:36.07 | captain_proton | scanline: sshd didn't start on yoshi |
| 04:36.14 | scanline | pff |
| 04:36.21 | captain_proton | =} |
| 04:36.27 | kergoth | but but, a bunch of my knives are in mn |
| 04:36.31 | kergoth | and i have nowhere to throw them here |
| 04:36.33 | kergoth | hrm |
| 04:36.45 | captain_proton | kergoth: there are walls at work, aren't there? :) |
| 04:36.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:38.53 | lalo | lagbored |
| 04:39.26 | lurgyman | :( |
| 04:41.20 | captain_proton | scanline: sshd! |
| 04:41.23 | captain_proton | *ahem* |
| 04:41.28 | scanline | bah |
| 04:41.31 | scanline | I need my machine's memory |
| 04:41.32 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:41.34 | captain_proton | fine, fine |
| 04:41.58 | scanline | vmware runs so much nicer without that transcode |
| 04:45.30 | lurgyman | scanline: hmm, i was having that exact same net.eth0 problem this morning |
| 04:45.34 | lurgyman | scanline: did you update recently? |
| 04:45.41 | scanline | somewhat |
| 04:45.45 | darth_mall | lurgyman!! |
| 04:45.48 | darth_mall | red dwarf? |
| 04:45.54 | lurgyman | darth_mall: sure! |
| 04:46.19 | darth_mall | scanline: captain_proton! |
| 05:01.29 | *** join/#tacobeam lalo_ (~lalo@200.102.125.165) |
| 05:03.06 | lalo_ | figures. |
| 05:07.04 | darth_mall | Cae|Study: did you ever find a copy of Bloodlust that wasn't dubbed |
| 05:14.18 | Cae|Study | nope |
| 05:37.47 | darth_mall | mmmm... Red Dwarf |
| 06:04.58 | darth_mall | I wish my life were like Red Dwarf |
| 06:15.48 | Cae|Study | I wish my damned prof hadn't moved the fscking test up |
| 06:18.36 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:18.39 | darth_mall | Cae|Study: which test? |
| 06:32.46 | Cae|Study | physics |
| 06:33.19 | darth_mall | mmmm... |
| 06:36.01 | Cae|Study | :P |
| 06:36.55 | Cae|Study | I used to like physics. |
| 06:36.59 | Cae|Study | until this semester. |
| 06:37.04 | darth_mall | I still like it |
| 06:37.10 | captain_proton | ....aenima? |
| 06:37.11 | darth_mall | as long as I don't have to take a class from the phys. dept. here |
| 06:37.13 | captain_proton | you mean enema? |
| 06:37.20 | darth_mall | erm... yeahj |
| 06:41.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:41.06 | kergoth | good album |
| 06:41.07 | Cae|Study | someone on the swordarts forums has a signature that tags IP, OS, browser, etc |
| 06:41.31 | darth_mall | kergoth: yeah, but I like Lateralus and Undertow best |
| 06:41.52 | darth_mall | I think Lateralus is the best overall, but Undertow has Prison Sex |
| 06:41.58 | darth_mall | which is a kickass song |
| 06:42.01 | kergoth | yea |
| 06:43.47 | ChipX86 | oh, I wasn't paying attention. I was just backing away from you |
| 06:43.53 | ChipX86 | ;) |
| 06:44.00 | darth_mall | well, in that case, continue |
| 06:44.03 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:44.22 | darth_mall | lurgyman: that's because you don't play guitar |
| 06:44.33 | lurgyman | darth_mall: prolley :) |
| 06:44.34 | ChipX86 | well the 5 girl sleepover party was shot down quickly. |
| 06:44.39 | darth_mall | =( |
| 06:44.44 | ChipX86 | remind me to move out :) |
| 06:44.52 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:45.04 | darth_mall | the low E is tuned to a B and (I think) the A is tuned to an E |
| 06:45.13 | darth_mall | or else the A is left as is |
| 06:45.17 | darth_mall | I can't remember exactly |
| 06:45.29 | lurgyman | so everything is taken up a 5th? |
| 06:45.29 | darth_mall | been a long time since I've played anything in odd tunings |
| 06:45.39 | darth_mall | lurgyman: nope, only those two strings are changed |
| 06:45.44 | darth_mall | the other 4 stay |
| 06:45.49 | lurgyman | aaaah |
| 06:46.08 | darth_mall | it's a guitar thing, like open tunings or DADGAD |
| 06:46.25 | darth_mall | people come up with strange ways of tuning the guitar to get different sounds |
| 06:47.28 | lurgyman | there's even-tempered |
| 06:47.37 | darth_mall | the terms guitarists generally use are probably not technically correct |
| 06:47.51 | darth_mall | cuz most guitarists these days aren't classically trained |
| 06:48.38 | lurgyman | in which the frequency each tone is (theoretically) exactly the twelfth root of two times the next lowest half-step |
| 06:49.04 | lurgyman | well, the thing about tuning |
| 06:49.05 | darth_mall | what? |
| 06:49.17 | lurgyman | is there aren't really any 'correct' terms |
| 06:49.32 | lurgyman | as every book you read will use different terms from the next |
| 06:49.38 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 06:49.42 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 06:50.28 | lurgyman | and then there was some other system... where the major and minor thirds end up being a lot closer to each other but that make 5ths much more nicely |
| 06:52.53 | Cae|Study | then sleep :P |
| 06:53.14 | Cae|Study | hmm |
| 06:53.51 | lurgyman | ow |
| 06:54.29 | kergoth | ChipX86|Coding: bah, you and your easy answers |
| 06:54.33 | ChipX86|Coding | :) |
| 06:54.40 | ChipX86|Coding | speaking of which, what do those cost? |
| 06:54.54 | darth_mall | mirrors or fingers? |
| 06:54.57 | ChipX86|Coding | mirrors |
| 06:55.13 | ChipX86|Coding | say, full-length mirrors |
| 06:55.19 | kergoth | i have one of those |
| 06:55.22 | kergoth | didnt buy it though |
| 06:55.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:56.44 | lurgyman | yay, no more confusing head tree paradox |
| 06:58.13 | Cae|Study | ChipX86|Coding: depends. do you want something that looks nice, or something that'll work? |
| 06:58.27 | Cae|Study | because walmart and such places have some for probably $15 |
| 06:58.46 | darth_mall | mmmm... Wal Mart |
| 06:59.02 | lurgyman | night all |
| 06:59.07 | darth_mall | knight |
| 06:59.11 | Cae|Study | sleep well |
| 06:59.18 | ChipX86|Coding | Cae|Study: that'll mount on a wall |
| 06:59.57 | darth_mall | ChipX86|Coding: buy a can of reflective silver spraypaint and a piece of glass, spray the wall, tape the glass over the painted wall |
| 07:00.11 | ChipX86|Coding | that, or I could buy a mirror |
| 07:00.18 | ChipX86|Coding | I don't plan on buying one.. more curious |
| 07:00.21 | darth_mall | my way is probably cheaper |
| 07:00.26 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 07:00.34 | darth_mall | and I'm really curious to see how well it works ^^ |
| 07:00.37 | Cae|Study | it'll mount on a wall. |
| 07:01.50 | ChipX86|Coding | brb |
| 07:02.11 | scanline | dang, dasher is dangerous |
| 07:02.22 | scanline | "All good pineaples come to an omelette, but those that strive for glory end only in disaster. However, all is not lost. The king of the potato people will search, search bravely and deeply for the one true fruit. The fruit of justice will lead his people to freedom." |
| 07:03.04 | darth_mall | lol |
| 07:03.08 | darth_mall | how'd you get that? |
| 07:03.18 | darth_mall | or did you just make it up? |
| 07:03.30 | scanline | it was dasher |
| 07:11.17 | captain_proton | yay i'm all clean |
| 07:11.52 | darth_mall | yay you're all clean |
| 07:11.55 | captain_proton | darth_mall: you missed my earlier comment about how when the user doesn't have something extremely specific to say, dasher is a voice for the unconcious mind :) |
| 07:12.10 | darth_mall | yes, I missed that |
| 07:12.13 | captain_proton | damn hibben throwers are pretty |
| 07:12.14 | darth_mall | but now I have it |
| 07:25.48 | captain_proton | damnit |
| 07:25.59 | scanline | oh |
| 07:26.00 | captain_proton | the shanghai noon ffmpeg encode is also unsynced |
| 07:26.06 | scanline | I'm done with vmware for now, so I'll start up sshd :) |
| 07:26.47 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:27.30 | captain_proton | scanline: is /navi not mounted? |
| 07:27.43 | scanline | hmm, guess not |
| 07:27.50 | scanline | how bout now? |
| 07:28.07 | captain_proton | there we go |
| 07:28.30 | ChipX86|Coding | poor navi :/ |
| 07:28.41 | captain_proton | poor navi? |
| 07:29.06 | ChipX86|Coding | all alone, not connected to the root filesystem |
| 07:29.12 | scanline | not mounted, heh |
| 07:29.35 | zak | meep |
| 07:29.43 | scanline | squeebly |
| 07:30.23 | captain_proton | 'allo zak |
| 07:30.33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:30.43 | captain_proton | this one web site has an interesting method for building knife targets |
| 07:30.50 | captain_proton | he has a large backdrop of hardboard |
| 07:30.53 | captain_proton | for indoor use =} |
| 07:31.12 | scanline | you have plenty of room in your bedroom to set up a knife target :) |
| 07:31.33 | kergoth | heh, indoor knife throwing is a very bad idea |
| 07:31.36 | kergoth | unless you're in a garage |
| 07:31.38 | kergoth | which works grate |
| 07:31.40 | kergoth | er great |
| 07:31.42 | ChipX86|Coding | I'm going to agree with kergoth in this case |
| 07:31.58 | captain_proton | it seems like a garage would get small |
| 07:32.03 | captain_proton | reasonably quick-like |
| 07:32.29 | kergoth | captain_proton: it does |
| 07:32.33 | kergoth | works though |
| 07:39.35 | ChipX86|Coding | haha |
| 07:40.06 | scanline | zak: wazzup? |
| 07:40.20 | zak | upon returning home today i discovered my front door open and my apartment empty |
| 07:40.28 | scanline | how empty? |
| 07:41.00 | darth_mall | empty of people? or empty of things? |
| 07:41.51 | zak | people |
| 07:41.55 | scanline | ah |
| 07:42.01 | zak | so i was worried about the things |
| 07:42.04 | scanline | sounds like what michael would do all the time... but that was in a dorm |
| 07:42.10 | darth_mall | and by open do you mean standing wide open? or just unlocked |
| 07:42.19 | zak | yea but he was at least in the building |
| 07:42.24 | scanline | not always |
| 07:42.29 | zak | pam and naomi were awol |
| 07:43.01 | captain_proton | wibblewibblewibble |
| 07:43.22 | captain_proton | zak: i don't suppose you know of a closeby lumber place? |
| 07:43.27 | scanline | argh |
| 07:43.29 | zak | several |
| 07:43.31 | scanline | I want to use the % operator in C like it's used in python |
| 07:43.41 | kergoth | scanline: i find myself doing that all the time |
| 07:43.44 | kergoth | its annoying |
| 07:43.45 | darth_mall | not that it matters terribly |
| 07:43.47 | scanline | yeah |
| 07:43.50 | darth_mall | both suck |
| 07:43.56 | zak | captain_proton: lowe's and home depot |
| 07:44.00 | zak | louisville |
| 07:44.16 | captain_proton | hmm, thats a bit further than i wanted |
| 07:44.52 | darth_mall | captain_proton: there are trees in the park ^^ |
| 07:44.58 | darth_mall | don't be so lazy, make your own ;) |
| 07:45.29 | captain_proton | hah |
| 07:45.46 | captain_proton | at that point, might as well just use trees as they are |
| 07:46.37 | darth_mall | what do you need more wood for anyway? |
| 07:46.48 | darth_mall | is the one from your parents no good for targeting? |
| 07:46.58 | captain_proton | darth_mall: well, at least at this point, this one is a bit too small =/ |
| 07:47.13 | captain_proton | plus its shelfboard, which like any composite material, tends to fall apart a bit when poked at |
| 07:47.21 | zak | closest i know, but mcfuckins may have some |
| 07:47.27 | kergoth | my throwing accuracy is pretty damn good at this point, but i still dont hit point first a very large % of the time |
| 07:47.34 | kergoth | course i havent done it in upwards of 6 months |
| 07:48.06 | darth_mall | sweet! |
| 07:48.12 | darth_mall | someone put Axel F on navi! |
| 07:48.18 | captain_proton | axel f? |
| 07:48.38 | kergoth | captain_proton: beverly hills cop theme |
| 07:48.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:48.42 | kergoth | iirc |
| 07:48.56 | darth_mall | =D |
| 07:49.12 | darth_mall | Beverly Hills Cop is quite possibly the best Eddie Murphy movie ever |
| 07:49.18 | scanline | ah.. my nemesis, the song that haunts my childhood dreams |
| 07:50.16 | darth_mall | this is a mod I think |
| 07:50.24 | darth_mall | it's in audio/mods/ anyway |
| 07:50.36 | darth_mall | and for that he will be rewarded |
| 07:51.20 | scanline | it's likely ben was the first one of us to download that, as he's responsible for most of the mod collection |
| 07:52.50 | darth_mall | then he shall be rewarded 10 fold |
| 07:57.31 | captain_proton | for people who don't want to work at all! |
| 07:57.43 | scanline | how does that work? |
| 07:57.51 | captain_proton | http://www.extremely-sharp.com/es/catalog/30271.html |
| 07:58.43 | scanline | ha |
| 07:58.46 | kergoth | captain_proton: hah |
| 07:58.53 | kergoth | whats the point |
| 07:58.56 | kergoth | pfft |
| 07:59.52 | darth_mall | hmmm... |
| 08:00.23 | darth_mall | "The Double Trouble: It's twice the knife! (or half the star)" |
| 08:00.45 | darth_mall | I bet it doesn't 'always' stick |
| 08:01.05 | darth_mall | if you really want something that's easy to stick by throwing stars |
| 08:02.09 | ChipX86|Coding | g'night kergoth |
| 08:07.06 | ChipX86|Coding | ugh, I feel like such an asshole |
| 08:07.27 | darth_mall | hmmm? |
| 08:08.39 | ChipX86|Coding | well, long story short, there's this girl I've known online for 6 years, Steph, and we started talking on the phone a year ago, and I developed a thing for her. Nothing ever happened, except some bad stuff. Now I have Rachael, and Steph likes me.. anyhow, she and I still talk on the phone at night, and Steph is sick today with a fever, and I just called off talking to her at nights |
| 08:08.47 | ChipX86|Coding | I should have done it when she was at least feeling decent |
| 08:09.57 | zak | must be 1:10 am night before a test....yep |
| 08:10.08 | scanline | zak: good luck |
| 08:10.10 | zak | yea for preinstalled safety features |
| 08:10.16 | zak | scanline: thanks |
| 08:10.17 | darth_mall | ChipX86|Coding: mayhaps, though I'm not sure it would make too much of a difference |
| 08:10.24 | ChipX86|Coding | nod.. |
| 08:10.57 | ChipX86|Coding | also probably shouldn't have done it after she gave me a speech on how great a guy I was |
| 08:11.55 | ChipX86|Coding | ah well, life goes on |
| 08:12.00 | darth_mall | ChipX86|Coding: no matter when you did it you would feel that there would have been a better time |
| 08:12.04 | darth_mall | but there is never a good time |
| 08:12.08 | ChipX86|Coding | yeah |
| 08:12.16 | darth_mall | thing is, it happens to everyone |
| 08:12.39 | darth_mall | so don't lose too much sleep over it ^^ |
| 08:12.48 | ChipX86|Coding | nod |
| 08:13.00 | darth_mall | and if you're going to lose sleep over it, you should at least do something useful like bake me some cookies |
| 08:13.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 08:13.05 | ChipX86|Coding | :D |
| 08:13.06 | ChipX86|Coding | cookies! |
| 08:14.57 | zak | (or make some for steph) |
| 08:15.05 | ChipX86|Coding | heh, yeah |
| 08:15.15 | ChipX86|Coding | I hate that I did that |
| 08:15.50 | ChipX86|Coding | but I shouldn't be talking to her at nights if I'm with Rachael |
| 08:16.08 | zak | ChipX86|Coding: you are a bad awful person...feel better? (i don't think you are bad or awful) |
| 08:16.14 | ChipX86|Coding | yep, thanks |
| 08:16.18 | zak | does she know about rachel? |
| 08:16.21 | ChipX86|Coding | yes |
| 08:16.37 | zak | and rachel knows about her? |
| 08:16.44 | ChipX86|Coding | yes, but not that we talk |
| 08:16.59 | zak | and the extent of your relationship is just friends? and steph knows this? |
| 08:17.09 | ChipX86|Coding | just never came up.. but now our relationship is getting more serious, so it's time to put an end to the nightly talks with Steph |
| 08:17.30 | ChipX86|Coding | with Steph? Yeah, even though she now wants more.. but I make it very clear, often, that that just wno't happen, and that I love Rachael |
| 08:17.33 | zak | explain this to steph, i am sure she will be sad, but she should also understand |
| 08:17.39 | ChipX86|Coding | I did |
| 08:17.46 | ChipX86|Coding | she said she was perfectly okay with it and understands |
| 08:17.52 | ChipX86|Coding | but I heard her begin to cry as I hung up |
| 08:18.21 | zak | well, she is bound to be sad, but she will get over it...if you talked to her, she must be at least mostly sane |
| 08:18.39 | zak | therefore unlikely to do anything stupid over a guy she's never met |
| 08:18.47 | ChipX86|Coding | nod |
| 08:20.02 | darth_mall | scanline: you there? |
| 08:20.08 | scanline | yeah |
| 08:20.11 | zak | so no worries ok? she'll be ok |
| 08:20.18 | ChipX86|Coding | yeah.. |
| 08:20.26 | darth_mall | scanline: wanna take a short break and take a look at something for me? |
| 08:20.28 | ChipX86|Coding | I can guarantee she won't be talking to me online for awhile |
| 08:20.31 | scanline | mmkay |
| 08:20.38 | darth_mall | it's nothing serious, just wanna see if I"m bein' dum w/ this code |
| 08:21.58 | zak | ChipX86|Coding: you might be suprised, she may still try to pursue a friendship, girls are better at that then guys are |
| 08:22.30 | ChipX86|Coding | we just have a very long, complicated history |
| 08:23.11 | zak | all the more reason for her not to just throw you away |
| 08:27.29 | Cae|Sleep | well, I'm screwed for the test on Friday. |
| 08:27.36 | Cae|Sleep | but g'night and sleep well :) |
| 08:27.47 | zak | Cae|Sleep: g'luck and g'night |
| 08:27.53 | ChipX86|Coding | zak: :) |
| 08:27.54 | Cae|Sleep | thanks |
| 08:28.11 | ChipX86|Coding | yes, good luck :) |
| 08:36.36 | captain_proton | hmm, i should sleep |
| 08:49.03 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 08:49.06 | darth_mall | this is pretty bad |
| 08:49.53 | captain_proton | guess what kids! |
| 08:49.56 | captain_proton | its TEEF BRUSHIN' TIME! |
| 08:50.11 | scanline | yay! |
| 08:50.45 | darth_mall | yeah, for me too |
| 08:54.39 | captain_proton | the xvid encode also has av sync problems, though not nearly as bad |
| 08:58.16 | scanline | bah.. colons at the end of my if statements |
| 08:58.53 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 08:59.03 | scanline | so.. now that this library has automagical-super-happy-buffering and 'extern "C"' in the right places, cory had better have nothing to complain about |
| 08:59.28 | scanline | and I'll have a more robust serial receiver for these test harnesses |
| 09:00.41 | darth_mall | night guys |
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| 14:10.12 | carpman | yay for dual headed at work |
| 14:36.16 | gonkulator | though, I can always just come home and use nova |
| 14:37.13 | carpman | morning gonk |
| 14:37.27 | gonkulator | howdy carpman |
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| 15:10.37 | gonkulator | and now I go to school |
| 15:10.39 | gonkulator | later sbahra |
| 15:11.01 | sbahra | Salam gonkulator :) |
| 15:58.17 | carpman | m0rning Cae |
| 15:58.49 | Cae | morning |
| 16:08.23 | carpman | hehehe |
| 16:09.16 | Cae | I'll go to kinesiology because it's largely attendance-based |
| 16:09.20 | Cae | (and fun) |
| 16:09.35 | Cae | but dealing with my group leader when running a sub-temperature... |
| 16:09.44 | Cae | methinks not. |
| 16:09.59 | carpman | Cae: germ warefare. Get him sick. |
| 16:10.10 | carpman | warfare even |
| 16:10.18 | Cae | that requires being around him. |
| 16:10.26 | Cae | which is entirely not worth it. |
| 16:15.02 | Cae | 'sides. he'll comment on me not having finished the graphics for the boss and player ships. |
| 16:15.24 | Cae | which is because this project is due next week, and I have a physics test tomorrow. I think the test takes priority. |
| 16:15.46 | Cae | it will also take maybe three minutes to tweak the firing patterns to suit the graphics. |
| 16:15.54 | carpman | Cae: You should make the boss a giant llama |
| 16:16.14 | Cae | the boss is going to be the ugliest thing I've ever seen. |
| 16:16.28 | Cae | because it's currently represented by a thin, long rectangle. |
| 16:16.32 | carpman | Cae: your group leader |
| 16:16.35 | carpman | ack |
| 16:16.40 | carpman | 's head :) |
| 16:16.44 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:16.57 | Cae | tempting :P |
| 16:26.39 | darth_mall | zak: were you showering? |
| 16:26.52 | zak | no, i just woke up and got breakfest |
| 16:27.41 | zak | but i am triumphant in everything i do...so i awoked and got breakfest very triumphantly |
| 16:28.34 | darth_mall | oh |
| 16:28.50 | carpman | zak: been listening to motivational tapes while you sleep? |
| 16:29.10 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 16:32.50 | carpman | w000t! AoFWXPython has layout control!! |
| 16:33.20 | darth_mall | hmm... I just noticed the time |
| 16:48.55 | captain_proton | yay for my bed being warm and fuzzy |
| 17:07.01 | captain_proton | and its just what i expected |
| 17:07.03 | captain_proton | html code |
| 17:07.05 | captain_proton | in a word doc |
| 17:07.07 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 17:10.00 | captain_proton | leaving time |
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| 17:53.01 | ChipX86 | hey kergoth |
| 17:53.25 | kergoth | hey |
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| 18:03.46 | sbahra | yo |
| 18:06.01 | kergoth | hey Cae |
| 18:06.14 | Cae | hey |
| 18:11.45 | captain_proton | yay i'm home again |
| 18:11.58 | captain_proton | hooray for things at work functioning as they're meant to |
| 18:15.56 | captain_proton | widgeywoo |
| 18:16.10 | captain_proton | heh, yay for being an educational institution |
| 18:16.30 | captain_proton | there's a good chance MS will just give us a copy of virtual PC instead of making us buy it, since we're asking nicely |
| 18:17.04 | Cae | hehe |
| 18:43.51 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 18:44.37 | Cae | LOL |
| 18:45.00 | kergoth | lol |
| 18:45.03 | kergoth | url? |
| 18:45.11 | captain_proton | http://www.quine.home.sonic.net/knifeecon.html |
| 18:45.15 | captain_proton | look at the bottom |
| 18:48.40 | Cae | lol |
| 18:49.28 | Cae | ack |
| 18:49.43 | Cae | I don't *want* more links between calculus 3 and physics.. |
| 18:49.59 | Cae | yes, they're there, but the physics requires the calc 3 to be dumbed down |
| 18:59.14 | captain_proton | oogabooga |
| 18:59.18 | captain_proton | this afternoon/evening is going to suck |
| 18:59.31 | captain_proton | i'll leave about 2:30, and get back around 10 =/ |
| 19:01.25 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:01.56 | captain_proton | i guess i'll have a little time in between things |
| 19:02.03 | captain_proton | so i can poing back to the office and heat up a tastybite |
| 19:04.07 | Cae | grr |
| 19:04.20 | Cae | I have a meeting at 5:30 and a soccer game at 7:10 |
| 19:04.34 | Cae | I need to study. |
| 19:04.40 | darth_mall | Cae: study your meeting |
| 19:05.41 | Cae | I can't |
| 19:07.06 | captain_proton | yay |
| 19:07.16 | darth_mall | ? |
| 19:07.39 | captain_proton | well - when everything is going wrong, i show up and fix it all |
| 19:07.46 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:07.50 | captain_proton | which makes the woman who's paying csops for my time very happy |
| 19:08.25 | darth_mall | that's like me whenever my room is messy ^^ |
| 19:08.42 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:09.54 | darth_mall | except the belt knife, cuz it's illegal |
| 19:10.54 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:10.59 | captain_proton | its actually not illegal |
| 19:11.05 | captain_proton | just need a permit |
| 19:11.12 | darth_mall | well... yeah |
| 19:11.26 | darth_mall | it is |
| 19:11.28 | captain_proton | most of the stuff i've read was about concealed carries |
| 19:11.30 | kergoth | eh, isnt a fixed blade knife generally considered a dagger? |
| 19:11.31 | darth_mall | nothing over 3.5 inches in this state |
| 19:11.46 | darth_mall | and you always need a permit for a fixed blade, I think |
| 19:11.48 | kergoth | by the laws here, you cant carry a dagger at all, concealed or no |
| 19:11.49 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:13.38 | darth_mall | http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/co.txt |
| 19:13.40 | Cae | 4 inches. and it can be fixed blade or not. |
| 19:13.44 | darth_mall | though this one appears to be abbreviated |
| 19:13.53 | kergoth | Cae: by which state laws? |
| 19:13.55 | darth_mall | and I think the website is kinda old |
| 19:13.58 | Cae | Texas |
| 19:14.12 | kergoth | texas mentions fixed explicitly, in addition to the normal length limits |
| 19:14.24 | kergoth | well, depends |
| 19:14.45 | kergoth | fixed with both sides sharpened, the second more than 1 inch of sharpness from the point, is considered a dagger |
| 19:14.48 | kergoth | those arent allowed regardless |
| 19:15.22 | kergoth | looked it up last week |
| 19:15.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:15.33 | Cae | I've had multiple police officers inform me that as long as it's in self defense, they don't really care. |
| 19:15.34 | kergoth | kinda disappointing actually |
| 19:15.41 | kergoth | yeah, its definately case by case |
| 19:15.42 | darth_mall | kergoth: where do you look something like that up |
| 19:15.43 | Cae | on the other hand, I'm 5'0", female, and rather slim. |
| 19:15.48 | kergoth | darth_mall: hold on, i'll get you a url |
| 19:17.06 | kergoth | http://www.david.broadwell.com/kn/kris.html <-ooo |
| 19:17.28 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:17.54 | kergoth | http://www.akti.org |
| 19:17.56 | kergoth | darth_mall: there |
| 19:18.01 | kergoth | that has all the useful links |
| 19:18.16 | Cae | I want a kris.. |
| 19:18.26 | kergoth | pretty decent organization, they work to monitor legislation regarding knife use |
| 19:18.29 | Cae | Daniel doesn't make them very often though.. |
| 19:23.24 | carpman | too bad you can't get them |
| 19:24.16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:24.26 | darth_mall | bah, colorado.gov is annoying |
| 19:24.32 | captain_proton | as far as i can tell, its not illegal to carry a knife exposed except on school or university property |
| 19:24.44 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I'm fairly sure that's wrong |
| 19:24.47 | captain_proton | except for gravity, ballistic or switchblades |
| 19:24.47 | kergoth | well, that depends on what knife it is. |
| 19:25.02 | captain_proton | concealed carries require a permit |
| 19:25.06 | darth_mall | captain_proton: where are you looking? |
| 19:25.20 | captain_proton | darth_mall: the colorado criminal code |
| 19:25.27 | captain_proton | title 18, section 12 |
| 19:25.33 | captain_proton | err, article 12 |
| 19:25.41 | darth_mall | where'd you find it, though, I can't find shit |
| 19:27.12 | kergoth | http://pw1.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm |
| 19:27.14 | kergoth | another useful resource |
| 19:27.23 | kergoth | they ripped out the various applicable sections of the code for each state |
| 19:29.19 | captain_proton | kergoth: that just links back to the thing that darth_mall found |
| 19:29.42 | kergoth | eh? |
| 19:30.00 | captain_proton | <darth_mall> http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/co.txt |
| 19:30.22 | kergoth | ah there it is |
| 19:30.27 | kergoth | way up there |
| 19:30.47 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:30.51 | kergoth | note its ambiguous regarding "dangerous weapon". they define "illegal weapon" in this context, but not dangerous |
| 19:31.02 | kergoth | which i found kinda odd |
| 19:31.10 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 19:31.14 | captain_proton | kergoth: they left out that definition from the exerpt - lemme find it |
| 19:31.26 | captain_proton | (1) As used in this section, the term "dangerous weapon" means a firearm silencer, machine gun, short shotgun, short rifle, or ballistic knife. |
| 19:31.39 | kergoth | ahh |
| 19:31.42 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:31.52 | carpman | a silencer is a weapon? |
| 19:32.14 | kergoth | heh, apparently |
| 19:32.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:32.57 | captain_proton | maybe i'll have my "writing for ingineers" professor take a look at the laws |
| 19:32.59 | captain_proton | see what he thinks |
| 19:33.54 | kergoth | http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/tx.txt |
| 19:33.56 | kergoth | check that |
| 19:34.23 | kergoth | illegal knife is certainly larger in scope here |
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| 19:35.24 | Cae | www.packing.org is an excellent resource |
| 19:35.52 | Cae | a lot of it's guns, but they keep track of knife laws to |
| 19:35.54 | Cae | *too |
| 19:36.37 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:36.41 | kergoth | bastards |
| 19:36.43 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:36.48 | captain_proton | they don't mention throwing spikes :) |
| 19:36.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:36.54 | kergoth | there is that |
| 19:37.16 | captain_proton | you brush the trailing edge with your fingertips as you release, stopping the rotation and throwing straight :) |
| 19:37.29 | kergoth | bah, cheater |
| 19:37.30 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:37.49 | captain_proton | well - i get the impression that doing so is quite a bit more difficult than controlling the rotation |
| 19:37.56 | sbahra[] | captain_proton: Into knife throwing? :] |
| 19:38.11 | captain_proton | sbahra[]: getting there |
| 19:38.24 | sbahra[] | Lately I've been picking up breakdancing :P |
| 19:38.32 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 19:38.35 | kergoth | captain_proton: you learning from a book, or..? |
| 19:38.43 | captain_proton | kergoth: well - not yet :) |
| 19:38.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:39.16 | kergoth | it sure is alot more challenging than it looks on tv, you know? ;) |
| 19:39.22 | captain_proton | a couple years ago, some friends and i threw at a dorm wall |
| 19:39.24 | captain_proton | (blade grip) |
| 19:39.28 | captain_proton | so i'm ok with that, half turn |
| 19:39.37 | captain_proton | i did order the hibben book, should come in a few days, i think |
| 19:39.55 | Cae | I would like to point out that it is pretty much legal for you to carry whatever (at least, bladed) weapon you want, as long as you are "traveling" |
| 19:40.00 | Cae | (in Texas) |
| 19:40.14 | kergoth | did you read the genearlly valid instances of "traveling"? |
| 19:40.16 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:40.35 | kergoth | doh, ncurses 4.2 stopped building |
| 19:40.35 | captain_proton | Cae: i think that means -i- could carry ;) |
| 19:40.36 | kergoth | hm |
| 19:40.42 | captain_proton | (in tx) |
| 19:40.46 | Cae | http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe/pe0004600.html#top |
| 19:40.53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:41.52 | Cae | "traveling" is undefined. |
| 19:42.06 | hardwire | holding your balls and taking more than 3 steps |
| 19:42.10 | hardwire | traveling |
| 19:42.14 | Cae | LOL |
| 19:43.06 | Cae | I'm 5'0", slim, and female. I have no intention of using a weapon against someone unless forced to do so. And technically, I "travel" all around campus. |
| 19:43.16 | hardwire | hi sbahra |
| 19:43.54 | kergoth | heh, the judge would laugh at you r ass if you tried to raise a defense that you were traveling across campus |
| 19:43.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:44.02 | kergoth | but i agree |
| 19:44.15 | sbahra | Hey hardwire |
| 19:44.59 | hardwire | hi |
| 19:45.06 | kergoth | captain_proton: you know of any decent exercises for the wrists, forearms, and hands? |
| 19:45.07 | hardwire | no longer on folding chair |
| 19:45.12 | hardwire | now on big bouncying ball of doom |
| 19:46.17 | kergoth | figure itd help for both rock climbing and knife work |
| 19:46.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:46.25 | kergoth | hey hardwire |
| 19:46.25 | captain_proton | kergoth: flexibility exercises? |
| 19:46.45 | kergoth | flexibility and strength both. |
| 19:46.59 | captain_proton | well - for strength, just do whatever it is you do, but moreso |
| 19:47.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:47.15 | captain_proton | kind of like the concept of training blades - much heavier |
| 19:47.22 | captain_proton | and yeah, the flexibility exercises are hard to explain |
| 19:47.33 | Cae | kergoth: heh, I know. besides, the only blatantly illegal things I carry would be angel sword things, which are only to and from renfest. which counts as (a) traveling and (b) a historical demonstration type thingie, both of which are covered :) |
| 19:47.41 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:47.47 | captain_proton | lets see |
| 19:48.03 | captain_proton | take one hand, hold in front of you (elbow bent), palm down, fingers extended |
| 19:48.16 | captain_proton | stick other hand on top, bend wrist down, press a bit |
| 19:48.56 | captain_proton | thats probably the simplest one... |
| 19:49.04 | kergoth | i do a lot of dynamic strength exercises. similar to isometrics, but uses other muscles to push against rather than a physical object |
| 19:49.10 | kergoth | that covers some exercises like the one you mentioned |
| 19:49.16 | kergoth | so ill probably stick to those for flexibility |
| 19:49.31 | captain_proton | well - just stretch the wrist in the various ways it will move :) |
| 19:49.55 | captain_proton | if you have a pair of sticks, rotating them while trying to keep the forearm in place is good |
| 19:50.09 | kergoth | yeah, thats a good oen |
| 19:50.19 | kergoth | can add a weight to the stick with a string to make it more intense |
| 19:50.44 | captain_proton | the weight isn't so important as far as flexibility goes |
| 19:50.51 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:51.39 | kergoth | Cae: it made sense the second time i read it |
| 19:51.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:51.58 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:52.28 | Cae | well, more to say that I'm as likely to reach the point of dislocation as I am to actually stretch anything. |
| 19:52.46 | Cae | because they're getting to be about the same point :P |
| 19:53.09 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:53.23 | kergoth | i havent worked out since moving to tx, have put on weight already. bleh |
| 19:53.38 | Cae | I'm not in shape. |
| 19:53.49 | Cae | I'm just absurdly flexible when it comes to my legs. |
| 19:54.23 | darth_mall | I need to find a place where I can practice my basics and forms and stuff |
| 19:54.24 | Cae | gymnastics, various forms of dance, horseback riding, running, etc. in my past. |
| 19:54.37 | kergoth | ah thats cool |
| 19:54.46 | captain_proton | darth_mall: there's a nice park about a block away |
| 19:55.00 | darth_mall | captain_proton: yeah, but that's not gonna be so nice whenever it snows |
| 19:55.03 | kergoth | i hate gyms. i liked having my garage as a training facility |
| 19:55.27 | Cae | I like the rec center here.. |
| 19:55.34 | captain_proton | true |
| 19:55.56 | darth_mall | I went by the rec today to see if there was a schedule posted for whenever the mat room is free, but there wasn't |
| 19:55.59 | hardwire | yay |
| 19:56.06 | hardwire | my homedir is migrating into svn now |
| 19:56.12 | captain_proton | hardwire: hehe |
| 19:56.13 | Cae | there's classrooms, so if you really wanted to practice, you could find an empty classroom. pretty sure there are mats (probably stacked) in most/all of them. |
| 19:56.38 | hardwire | how do you do a global ignore for svn stuff? |
| 19:56.40 | Cae | unfortunately I don't have free time, because my schedule sucks :) |
| 19:56.52 | darth_mall | hrm... still no e-mail from mark |
| 20:07.22 | purple_cow | whoa, creepy |
| 20:09.14 | purple_cow | mmm, its like chili, but with lentils and tastier |
| 20:11.31 | purple_cow | yay for the new version of star trek TMP, except for the tng music at the beginning |
| 20:22.07 | darth_mall | mmmm... it's all Star Trekky |
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| 20:23.10 | carpman | MUHAHA |
| 20:23.19 | carpman | I can create real interfaces in AoF now! |
| 20:27.05 | purple_cow | all the characters are SO THIN |
| 20:27.28 | carpman | and they have cassete recorders glued to their stomachs |
| 20:35.14 | purple_cow | argh |
| 20:35.22 | purple_cow | how did dan get an ssh key to root@navi? |
| 20:38.44 | darth_mall | mmm... sand |
| 20:41.06 | darth_mall | =( |
| 20:41.13 | purple_cow | "i know engineers, the LOVE to change things" |
| 20:44.55 | Cae|Study | lol |
| 20:48.42 | purple_cow | yay for food |
| 20:57.15 | darth_mall | I love Spock |
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| 21:02.49 | merlin{Yokohama} | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 21:14.48 | purple_cow | 'allo kergoth |
| 21:14.51 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:18.07 | carpman | yay for merlin{Yokohama} |
| 21:18.08 | darth_mall | wb kergoth, good lunch? |
| 21:18.15 | carpman | yay for kergoth |
| 21:18.24 | carpman | yay for yay |
| 21:18.37 | carpman | darth_mall: yay |
| 21:21.32 | gonk-class | ugh... |
| 21:22.28 | gonk-class | darth_mall: wise move |
| 21:22.35 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:22.41 | darth_mall | gonk-class: heard back from Markus yet? |
| 21:24.03 | gonk-class | mmm... nope |
| 21:24.08 | gonk-class | darth_mall: have you heard from him? |
| 21:24.33 | darth_mall | nopski |
| 21:24.42 | gonk-class | well bugger... |
| 21:24.51 | darth_mall | hmmm... there was someone else I was gonna e-mail about SC, but now I forget |
| 21:25.28 | carpman | darth_mall: SC == shadow conflict? :) |
| 21:25.33 | gonk-class | carpman: starcraft |
| 21:25.43 | carpman | gonk-class: same thing ;) |
| 21:25.49 | darth_mall | carpman: of course, Shadow Conflict is the best game ever |
| 21:25.51 | gonk-class | remember that game I 0wned you on :) |
| 21:26.02 | darth_mall | way better than Starcraft and Wing Commander combined |
| 21:26.16 | gonk-class | except at the Kaos room |
| 21:26.21 | gonk-class | that room had bad Chi |
| 21:26.29 | gonk-class | too much winbloze |
| 21:26.32 | darth_mall | or juu juu |
| 21:26.37 | carpman | gonk-class: no, you were just color blind :) |
| 21:26.42 | darth_mall | could have been juu juu |
| 21:26.49 | gonk-class | carpman: hush :) |
| 21:27.08 | carpman | Teammates, what are those? - Gonkulator |
| 21:27.28 | gonk-class | hmm... |
| 21:27.40 | carpman | advogato needs a "Bitch" level for people like Mr. D3 |
| 21:27.46 | darth_mall | when you get done with that ar you gonna eat the upper one? or save it for later |
| 21:27.52 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 21:28.02 | purple_cow | its a shame that all the trust metrics are positive :) |
| 21:29.03 | gonk-class | purple_cow: lol |
| 21:34.00 | darth_mall | mm.mm.mmmmm |
| 21:34.11 | gonk-class | that looks like a comb |
| 21:38.55 | carpman | gonk-class: hey, you're bleeding like you've been stabbed with a comb. |
| 21:39.23 | carpman | file[laptop]: Oh... activities! Like.... pumpkin detonating? |
| 21:39.33 | gonk-class | and comb stabbing? |
| 21:39.56 | file[laptop] | perhaps, perhaps |
| 21:40.29 | file[laptop] | KABOOM |
| 21:41.23 | carpman | file[laptop]: Look what you did to merlin! |
| 21:41.24 | gonk-class | hmm... |
| 21:41.33 | file[laptop] | I have power... POWER! |
| 21:41.57 | gonk-class | file[laptop]: merlin times out when a fly sneezes... |
| 21:42.03 | gonk-class | wahoo... |
| 21:42.48 | carpman | Now I have the power!!! |
| 21:43.06 | darth_mall | ~seen scanline |
| 21:43.08 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (21h 53m 47s) #bzflag (21h 53m 47s) #tacobeam (21h 53m 47s). Has said a total of 246 messages. Is idling for 12h 43m 40s |
| 21:43.08 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:43.33 | darth_mall | carpman: that's not very nice |
| 21:43.51 | carpman | darth_mall: but, I have the power. |
| 21:43.56 | kergoth | man, this is nice |
| 21:44.32 | gonk-class | kergoth: chili cheese dog? |
| 21:44.45 | gonk-class | oh |
| 21:44.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:46.15 | darth_mall | gonk-class: we play SC friday? |
| 21:46.19 | darth_mall | Cae|Study!! |
| 21:46.31 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 21:46.32 | gonk-class | darth_mall: oh cae |
| 21:46.37 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 21:46.53 | darth_mall | ~fishslap gonk-class for making a bad joke |
| 21:46.56 | | ACTION slaps gonk-class up side the head with a wet fish for making a bad joke |
| 21:46.56 | gonk-class | darth_mall: if I am not with Kendra, we play |
| 21:47.26 | darth_mall | mmmm... Star Trek |
| 21:47.51 | kergoth | you kn ow |
| 21:47.55 | kergoth | i compile glibc too many times a day |
| 21:48.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:48.10 | kergoth | course any times is too many |
| 21:49.47 | gonk-class | darth_mall: in fact... I think Kendra and I have a date |
| 21:51.10 | darth_mall | hmmm... I could probably SC this evening |
| 21:51.24 | darth_mall | don't really have any hw |
| 21:51.32 | darth_mall | once I get back from working on components this evening |
| 21:51.47 | gonk-class | good deal |
| 21:51.57 | gonk-class | though, it will have to be one game and only one game |
| 21:52.07 | gonk-class | because I have a shitload of work to do |
| 21:52.24 | kergoth | "please help me because of god" |
| 21:52.27 | kergoth | i hate spam. |
| 21:54.47 | darth_mall | lol |
| 21:55.53 | kergoth | woot. every package that should build in OE does. |
| 21:59.24 | gonk-class | kergoth: cool and congrats :) |
| 21:59.32 | kergoth | took a while |
| 21:59.38 | kergoth | for a while, build order affected thingms |
| 21:59.43 | kergoth | in one build everything would work |
| 21:59.48 | kergoth | in the next things would randomly fail |
| 21:59.50 | kergoth | it was annoying |
| 22:00.12 | kergoth | gonk-class: what class? |
| 22:00.32 | gonk-class | kergoth: phenomenology |
| 22:02.18 | darth_mall | gonk-class: why the look? |
| 22:02.50 | gonk-class | darth_mall: because she is talking about stuff |
| 22:03.05 | Cae|Study | it's a class. that happens. |
| 22:03.36 | darth_mall | lol |
| 22:03.39 | darth_mall | what stuff? |
| 22:04.16 | gonk-class | philosophy stuff |
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| 22:05.47 | Cae|Study | mm.. |
| 22:05.49 | Cae|Study | O Fortuna |
| 22:06.00 | gonk-class | yay for that being a cool song |
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| 22:06.24 | Cae|Study | this was the intro to one of my musical freestyles one year. |
| 22:06.31 | Cae|Study | uhm. |
| 22:07.06 | Cae|Study | horseback riding to music. different levels, different movements. choreographed however you like, as long as it includes certain movements. |
| 22:07.21 | purple_cow | wibble |
| 22:09.09 | Cae|Study | hm. |
| 22:09.25 | Cae|Study | I hate it when books use notation reserved for specific calculus operations. |
| 22:09.37 | Cae|Study | for stuff that isn't related to those operations. |
| 22:09.43 | gonk-class | like what? |
| 22:10.20 | Cae|Study | like cross product, dot notation, the use of prime (as in derivative) to show that a velocity changed (when it's not the derivative) |
| 22:10.22 | gonk-class | carpman: seems we sneezed file off the interweb |
| 22:10.40 | gonk-class | ah |
| 22:10.46 | gonk-class | this isn't an english type book |
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| 22:10.57 | gonk-class | yes, if they are striving for any sort of technical accuracy, then it sucks |
| 22:10.59 | gonk-class | hey lalo |
| 22:11.00 | Cae|Study | this is a physics book |
| 22:11.17 | Cae|Study | and it annoys the hell out of me because of those notations |
| 22:11.41 | gonk-class | there are so many notations in this world, only so many can be used |
| 22:11.45 | Cae|Study | I have old textbooks I can't sell back that I hate.. |
| 22:11.52 | gonk-class | yay |
| 22:11.52 | Cae|Study | can we say target practice? |
| 22:12.04 | gonk-class | it was yummy :) |
| 22:12.09 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 22:12.27 | Cae|Study | yes, but there are specific notations that shouldn't be used for other things. |
| 22:12.42 | gonk-class | and its time for me to take off |
| 22:12.46 | Cae|Study | *especially* when they cover dot product and cross product in these chapters. |
| 22:12.50 | Cae|Study | have fun. |
| 22:12.52 | gonk-detached | ugh... |
| 22:12.53 | gonk-detached | yeah |
| 22:12.54 | gonk-detached | hehehe |
| 22:13.01 | Cae|Study | and then use the notation for something *else* |
| 22:13.32 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:14.17 | lalo | are you going to scarborough fair? |
| 22:14.22 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:14.38 | Cae|Study | if I can |
| 22:14.52 | Cae|Study | danke, darth_mall |
| 22:14.58 | darth_mall | np |
| 22:15.06 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 22:15.43 | darth_mall | red? or black? |
| 22:15.57 | lalo | Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. |
| 22:16.12 | darth_mall | that was such a neat thing they did |
| 22:16.20 | Cae|Study | red |
| 22:16.24 | darth_mall | Cae|Study: ooh, thanks |
| 22:16.30 | Cae|Study | hehe, np |
| 22:16.52 | Cae|Study | actually, I have parsley, rosemary, and sage. |
| 22:17.21 | darth_mall | I think the Simon & Garfunkel version of those songs is prettier than any version of either one individually I've heard |
| 22:17.35 | Cae|Study | thyme is questionable down here. and the nursery didn't have any that I liked anyway. |
| 22:19.16 | Cae|Study | you have to love it when mp3s download in less than 6 seconds |
| 22:20.16 | lalo | darth_mall: I haven't heard any other version with "dual lyrics", which is the major featre of the song IMO |
| 22:20.34 | lalo | not that the other versions aren't pretty too. Just not comparable :-) |
| 22:21.56 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 22:21.58 | darth_mall | lalo: I agree |
| 22:22.13 | Cae|Study | I need to set up a mailserver on Infinity.. |
| 22:22.15 | darth_mall | that's what I was trying to say, just not as clearly ^ |
| 22:22.18 | darth_mall | erm... ^^ |
| 22:22.22 | Cae|Study | but it won't happen right now.. |
| 22:22.54 | darth_mall | I feel as though I should be being more productive right now, but there really isn't anything for me to do |
| 22:23.16 | Cae|Study | take my physics test for me tomorrow. |
| 22:23.22 | Cae|Study | or finish my java project. |
| 22:23.25 | Cae|Study | or study for me. |
| 22:23.39 | Cae|Study | or complete one of two websites. |
| 22:23.50 | Cae|Study | or read about sword history. |
| 22:23.59 | Cae|Study | because I'm sick and want to sleep. |
| 22:25.10 | kergoth | sick? that sucks |
| 22:25.21 | kergoth | still recovering from sickness myself |
| 22:25.29 | Cae|Study | the room is at 76-78F, and I'm almost cold |
| 22:25.49 | Cae|Study | it hasn't been really above 70-72F all semester in here |
| 22:27.09 | kergoth | AHH |
| 22:27.13 | Cae|Study | ? |
| 22:27.20 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 22:27.29 | kergoth | i *really* really really dont want to wade through incomprehensible shell code today, thanks |
| 22:27.30 | Cae|Study | hm. |
| 22:27.34 | kergoth | these people have never heard of shell functions |
| 22:27.47 | kergoth | its one bigass thousands of lines script, half of which is duplicated code with slight variances |
| 22:27.53 | Cae|Study | come to think of it, I think I remember parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme having a particular meaning.. |
| 22:28.56 | Cae|Study | rosemary's rememberence, but that's all I recall.. |
| 22:30.41 | Cae|Study | ahh, okay. |
| 22:35.02 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:35.05 | ChipX86 | I should be doing that |
| 22:35.11 | ChipX86 | instead, I'm working on my resume to send to Macromedia |
| 22:35.31 | Cae|Study | cool. |
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| 22:35.46 | kergoth | ChipX86: what position? |
| 22:36.02 | ChipX86 | Responsibilities |
| 22:36.03 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.18 | carpman | wow |
| 22:36.23 | ChipX86 | San Francisco |
| 22:36.26 | ChipX86 | I meet most of the requirements |
| 22:36.32 | ChipX86 | and my resume is good enough in this area |
| 22:36.36 | kergoth | nice, good luck |
| 22:36.40 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.com/resume.ml |
| 22:36.46 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 22:36.48 | scanline | gah, how did I manage to sleep this long? |
| 22:36.53 | darth_mall | x2x is a fun toy |
| 22:37.05 | kergoth | hmm, i havent had a personal site since the mid 90s |
| 22:37.05 | kyric | scanline: poke |
| 22:37.07 | scanline | and why does lurgyman have root on navi again? |
| 22:37.08 | darth_mall | morning scanline |
| 22:37.11 | scanline | kyric: hm? |
| 22:37.12 | darth_mall | lol |
| 22:37.13 | darth_mall | he does? |
| 22:37.16 | kyric | lol |
| 22:37.32 | kyric | question you may or may not know the answer too |
| 22:37.37 | carpman | GLib-WARNING **: g_main_iterate(): main loop already active in another thread |
| 22:37.47 | carpman | DAMN YOU GDK!!! DAAAAAAAMMMM YOOUUUUUUUUU |
| 22:37.57 | kyric | if i were a ninevolt attachment doo widget and i were in the assembly lab...where would i be |
| 22:38.12 | kyric | (battery) |
| 22:38.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: i hope you trim that down when you email or print it and hand it to someone :) |
| 22:38.26 | scanline | kyric: haven't seen any in there |
| 22:38.33 | kyric | blast crackers |
| 22:38.39 | kyric | i really need some |
| 22:38.40 | ChipX86 | kergoth: yep |
| 22:40.16 | scanline | captain_proton: you took out lurgyman's key, but he had put himself back in the wheel group |
| 22:41.26 | darth_mall | oh my god, it's the pier 1 lady! |
| 22:41.34 | ToyKeeper | heh. x2x *is* a fun toy. |
| 22:41.35 | ToyKeeper | :) |
| 22:41.35 | darth_mall | kirstie alley is in star trek 2 |
| 22:41.38 | darth_mall | that's so gross |
| 22:41.39 | ToyKeeper | And a very very useful toy. |
| 22:41.40 | darth_mall | hey ToyKeeper |
| 22:41.47 | ToyKeeper | (you said "toy" :) |
| 22:41.57 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:42.13 | ToyKeeper | I use x2x like 12+ hours a day. |
| 22:42.55 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:43.28 | darth_mall | scanline: you should come up and join me ^^ |
| 22:48.58 | ChipX86 | not having a degree hurts. |
| 22:49.12 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:50.30 | darth_mall | I hear movement! |
| 22:51.17 | kergoth | ChipX86: indeed |
| 22:51.33 | ChipX86 | I'm pissed |
| 22:51.39 | Cae|Study | ? |
| 22:51.44 | ChipX86 | their "profile builder" took what I had and saved it as a resume and sent it in |
| 22:51.57 | ChipX86 | nowhere did it indicate it would do that |
| 22:52.09 | Cae|Study | :\ |
| 22:52.10 | ChipX86 | so none of my projects or anything else was sent in. Just a couple companies I've worked for, and my contact info. |
| 22:52.13 | ChipX86 | why would they do that? |
| 22:52.29 | kergoth | heh, what bs |
| 22:55.45 | kergoth | ahhhhh |
| 22:56.07 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 22:56.13 | kergoth | libtool is abusing me :( |
| 22:56.22 | ChipX86 | libtool does that. It's evil. |
| 22:56.41 | Cae|Study | as evil as me? |
| 22:56.56 | Cae|Study | O:) |
| 22:57.45 | Cae|Study | well, there's evil, frightening, and disturbing. where do you think I fit best, Chippy? |
| 22:57.55 | ChipX86 | hey look, a shiny coin! |
| 22:58.12 | Cae|Study | Chip. |
| 22:59.35 | darth_mall | Cae|Study: I think you fall into the 'and' category |
| 22:59.46 | Cae|Study | hehe |
| 23:00.09 | *** part/#tacobeam ChipX86 (chipx86@chipx86.usercloak.freenode) |
| 23:00.13 | Cae|Study | LOL |
| 23:00.32 | *** join/#tacobeam ChipX86 (chipx86@chipx86.usercloak.freenode) |
| 23:00.35 | ChipX86 | next time I part all channels. |
| 23:00.39 | Cae|Study | ha. |
| 23:00.56 | Cae|Study | you realize I'm in about four of the same channels as you. :P |
| 23:01.06 | Cae|Study | well. more than that, actually. |
| 23:01.10 | kergoth | woot! |
| 23:01.14 | ChipX86 | Cae|Study: if that's the case, then you should be writing my report! |
| 23:01.18 | ChipX86 | kergoth: :D |
| 23:01.22 | kergoth | take THAT foul demon |
| 23:01.22 | Cae|Study | hehe |
| 23:01.35 | ChipX86 | kergoth: be glad you don't have to mess with gettext |
| 23:01.41 | Cae|Study | so Chip, what's the answer to my question? |
| 23:01.43 | kergoth | oh i am |
| 23:01.44 | ChipX86 | Cae|Study: 42 |
| 23:01.54 | Cae|Study | no, it's not. |
| 23:01.54 | ChipX86 | kergoth: the evil I had to create to get that to work.. |
| 23:01.54 | kergoth | mmm 42 |
| 23:02.26 | kergoth | woah |
| 23:02.30 | kergoth | i think this one fix |
| 23:02.33 | kergoth | fixed both problems i was having |
| 23:02.35 | kergoth | what luck |
| 23:02.36 | ChipX86 | cool :) |
| 23:03.58 | Cae|Study | wb |
| 23:04.30 | gonk-work | ty |
| 23:04.54 | kergoth | hey, now it fails in a completely different way |
| 23:04.54 | kergoth | fun |
| 23:06.00 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 23:07.42 | ChipX86 | if your report goes 4 or 5 lines into page 6, does that mean your report gets to be considered 6 pages long? |
| 23:08.06 | ChipX86 | I'm so tired of this report :) |
| 23:08.17 | Cae|Study | depends on the teacher |
| 23:08.25 | ChipX86 | then no :/ |
| 23:08.39 | scanline | just use a bigger and/or 'nonstandard' font |
| 23:08.45 | gonk-work | hehehe |
| 23:08.46 | ChipX86 | he's very strict on fonts and sizes |
| 23:08.58 | scanline | margins? |
| 23:09.10 | scanline | smaller paper? |
| 23:09.13 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 23:09.17 | kergoth | crap |
| 23:09.19 | ChipX86 | or I could just find more content.. |
| 23:09.23 | kergoth | fixed that problem, but now it doesnt create a .lai file |
| 23:09.24 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:09.28 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 23:09.30 | ChipX86 | that's no good |
| 23:09.36 | ChipX86 | is this for oe? |
| 23:09.38 | *** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial36-194.sbm.net.sa) |
| 23:09.40 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:09.49 | ChipX86 | why so many problems? |
| 23:09.49 | kergoth | bluez-sdp keeps getting /usr/lib into its lib search path |
| 23:09.55 | kergoth | so /usr/lib/libbluetooth.so ends up on the link line |
| 23:09.55 | kergoth | boom boom |
| 23:10.00 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 23:10.05 | kergoth | hahah! |
| 23:10.07 | kergoth | distclean fixed it |
| 23:10.09 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 23:10.50 | kergoth | i cant believe that worked |
| 23:10.56 | gonk-work | sbahra: howdy |
| 23:11.01 | kergoth | normally i'd spend like 4 hours just trying to isolate |
| 23:11.05 | kergoth | much less fixing anything |
| 23:11.29 | sbahra | kergoth: Gentoo? |
| 23:12.10 | ChipX86 | hrm, just called Rachael's place and she isn't back yet. That's a bit odd, since she typically gets home at 2, and it's 3:15 almost |
| 23:12.12 | kergoth | nope, OE. its like portage, but with crosscompilation support and made distro independent |
| 23:13.31 | sbahra | kergoth: Ah. |
| 23:13.31 | sbahra | kergoth: I was hoping for a fellow BSD'er :] |
| 23:13.54 | kergoth | only thing i use bsd for is an openbsd ipless bridging firewall |
| 23:14.00 | kergoth | use debian on most of my machines |
| 23:14.47 | gonk-work | yay for finding exactly the tutorial I need :) |
| 23:15.55 | gonk-work | hey Cae|Study, should I use vi or emacs to write html? |
| 23:16.32 | Cae|Study | vim |
| 23:16.35 | Cae|Study | :P |
| 23:16.55 | gonk-work | yay, its there |
| 23:17.04 | sbahra | Ofcourse it is :) |
| 23:17.05 | sbahra | ewww |
| 23:17.17 | sbahra | Can one of you guys give me a shell on an OS X box? That would seriously own :D |
| 23:17.17 | Cae|Study | ? |
| 23:17.23 | Cae|Study | lol |
| 23:17.53 | Cae|Study | (and my OS X box is a laptop) |
| 23:18.29 | gonk-work | sbahra: I would, but the only OS X box I have that is always on is my laptop |
| 23:18.33 | gonk-work | and its IP changes all the time |
| 23:18.47 | gonk-work | I *could* give you a login on my work box, but its firewalled |
| 23:19.00 | gonk-work | and the server (which isn't firewalled) would be rather off limits to you :) |
| 23:19.53 | sbahra | Where's the trust? :P |
| 23:20.03 | sbahra | Well, ok. I would appreciate any shell gonk-work |
| 23:20.17 | sbahra | I have needed one a couple of times, when I need it again I could ask you for the IP or something. |
| 23:20.18 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:20.18 | gonk-work | sbahra: ah, do you want one you can irssi/screen from? |
| 23:20.33 | sbahra | gonk-work: No, it will be for development (porting work). |
| 23:20.55 | gonk-work | sbahra: alright, I might get an OS X box for home which I could give you a login on |
| 23:21.03 | gonk-work | and would |
| 23:21.12 | sbahra | gonk-work: Thanks. |
| 23:21.36 | gonk-work | sbahra: yep, I would give you one right now, but ChipX86|Gone got my OS X desktop :) |
| 23:24.09 | scanline | sbahra: can't you get on the sourceforge compile farm's OS X boxen? |
| 23:28.34 | sbahra | scanline: I don't want to deal with the whole registeration process and what not. Also, are we not sort of limited to what we can do? Some of this porting work MIGHT involve some special things (which I will request when I do get the shell) |
| 23:30.15 | gonk-work | sbahra: I'll give you root access if you *promise* to be good :) |
| 23:31.15 | sbahra | gonk-work: I promise. |
| 23:31.35 | sbahra | gonk-work: It isn't required just right now, but it will be during Winter vacation when I will have more time (around 3 weeks). |
| 23:31.39 | kergoth | bleh. |
| 23:32.00 | gonk-work | sbahra: alright, I'll get propellant all set up for you when the time comes |
| 23:32.18 | sbahra | Thanks. |
| 23:32.26 | sbahra | ChipX86: haha |
| 23:32.32 | kergoth | s/times/time/ |
| 23:32.41 | ChipX86 | it's stuck on 6:00 or something |
| 23:32.49 | kergoth | that doesnt help |
| 23:32.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:32.56 | kergoth | i _way_ overslept |
| 23:32.57 | ChipX86 | but you get overtime! |
| 23:33.03 | ChipX86 | everyd ay |
| 23:33.07 | kergoth | didnt get into work till like 11:30 |
| 23:33.11 | kergoth | so i'll be here for a while |
| 23:33.13 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:33.16 | darth_mall | gonk-work: is a crazy monkey |
| 23:33.26 | kergoth | i hit snooze every 10 minutes for like 3 hours |
| 23:33.28 | kergoth | it was insane |
| 23:33.30 | kergoth | oh well |
| 23:34.24 | gonk-work | darth_mall: I am so not too not a crazy monkey! |
| 23:34.44 | kergoth | er? |
| 23:35.15 | Cae|Study | nice. |
| 23:37.19 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 23:38.08 | gonk-work | yay |
| 23:40.03 | Cae|Study | desuba os eb ton dluohs sleep ananab |
| 23:40.14 | Cae|Study | :) |
| 23:42.09 | Cae|Study | ?os em ta kool uoy od yhw |
| 23:42.20 | ChipX86 | peels is sleep backwards, and vice versa! Neat. |
| 23:42.23 | gonk-work | Cae|Study: because you're being sillier than me :) |
| 23:43.04 | Cae|Study | scisyhp no ti emalb I |
| 23:43.36 | Cae|Study | P: |
| 23:43.40 | gonk-work | and if you wanted to be really funny... |
| 23:43.58 | darth_mall | ChipX86: that's almost as cool as tulsa spelled backwards |
| 23:44.06 | gonk-work | you could have said "scisyhp no ti semalb em\" |
| 23:44.18 | darth_mall | Cae|Study: shouldn't that be d: |
| 23:44.23 | Cae|Study | .he |
| 23:44.27 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:44.29 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:44.40 | kergoth | gonk-work: umop apisdn? |
| 23:44.54 | Cae|Study | ecin |
| 23:44.59 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 23:45.48 | gonk-work | kergoth: you're gonna have to splain that one :) |
| 23:46.11 | kergoth | its upside down, written upside down. |
| 23:46.33 | gonk-work | ah |
| 23:46.39 | gonk-work | the lack of the upside down E got me :) |
| 23:46.48 | Cae|Study | sdrawkcab dna |
| 23:46.50 | purple_cow | widgeywoo |
| 23:46.55 | kergoth | depending on your font, a works |
| 23:47.01 | darth_mall | hey purple_cow |
| 23:47.04 | gonk-work | silly OS X fonts :) |
| 23:47.11 | ChipX86 | reflohnednirf |
| 23:47.29 | Cae|Study | live |
| 23:47.40 | Cae|Study | .mh |
| 23:47.52 | Cae|Study | evil <-> live |
| 23:48.04 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:48.04 | gonk-work | ivan <-> navi |
| 23:48.25 | purple_cow | !veu? :) |
| 23:48.42 | purple_cow | err |
| 23:48.49 | purple_cow | !^en |
| 23:48.53 | purple_cow | doesn't really work |
| 23:49.01 | purple_cow | blah, combine those two |
| 23:49.02 | Cae|Study | ..desufnoc |
| 23:49.04 | kergoth | ~fishslap purple_cow |
| 23:49.07 | | ACTION slaps purple_cow up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:49.28 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:49.31 | ChipX86 | yo sude ikioo wa mataa no shitawa |
| 23:49.58 | Cae|Study | .dab |
| 23:50.01 | kergoth | ugh, those glibc compiles are still going |
| 23:50.12 | purple_cow | ok, off to begin my evening of suckage |
| 23:50.23 | Cae|Study | nuf evah |
| 23:50.46 | Cae|Study | (: |
| 23:51.02 | gonk-work | hehehe, thats how LoneTech did his smilies :) |
| 23:55.13 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 23:55.24 | gonk-work | yay |
| 23:55.30 | kergoth | bored. |
| 23:55.44 | Cae|Study | ?derob |
| 23:55.49 | gonk-work | now all I have to do is my backend processing |
| 23:56.22 | kergoth | Cae|Study: yep. |
| 23:56.33 | ChipX86 | kergoth: bored? I have some things you can work on :) |
| 23:57.39 | kergoth | well, i only need something to do until these compiles finish |
| 23:57.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:57.43 | Cae|Study | ..em llik uoy erofeb ?siht ekil gniklat em htiw pu tup syug uoy lliw regnol hcum woh |
| 23:57.48 | ChipX86 | ah. Nevermind then :) |
| 23:58.18 | Cae|Study | / /s |
| 23:58.25 | Cae|Study | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.35 | kergoth | Cae|Study: i worked in tech support. this is nothing. |
| 23:58.40 | ChipX86 | backwards regexp is evil |
| 23:58.49 | Cae|Study | heh |
| 23:58.56 | sbahra | ChipX86: Hey, if I wanted to update GNOME Arabic translations. Where should I direct them to (sorry if this is in a FAQ but one of the i18n guys in a big rush)? |
| 23:59.05 | gonk-work | Cae|Study: why aren't you using the \? |
| 23:59.24 | ChipX86 | sbahra: I don't work with GNOME. No clue. |
| 23:59.44 | ChipX86 | unless you mean gaim? |
| 23:59.47 | Cae|Study | nmad |
| 23:59.59 | Cae|Study | tniop doog |
