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00:00.31captain_protonlurgyman: ?
00:00.46lurgymanhttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127545
00:01.54captain_protonuhhuh
00:01.54darth_mallrar
00:02.11lurgymanmeow
00:02.23captain_protonlurgyman: ok, navi:~lurgyman/cvs/evolution should be good
00:02.27lurgymanyay, thanksy
00:04.08zakscanline: she says no
00:04.49lurgymanargh
00:05.51zakbut thanks
00:07.32captain_protoneww, thats horrid
00:07.48lurgymangrep: /home/jupiter/cvs/evolution/e-util/libeutil.la: Permission denied
00:07.54lurgymaneven after reconfiguring
00:08.30captain_protonlurgyman: first do a make distclean
00:08.38captain_protonerr
00:08.40captain_protonfirst do a cvs up -C
00:08.43captain_protonthen a make distclean
00:08.46captain_protonthen re-autogen
00:08.50lurgymanyeah... i was afraid of that...
00:09.46captain_protondamnit, they need to answer my question
00:09.49captain_protonso i can submit my patch
00:09.58lurgymanhehe
00:11.12lurgymanew, did this guy make his reference card with the gimp?
00:11.19lurgymanit's all... icky
00:11.41captain_protonwouldn't surprise me
00:11.52captain_protonthe text is certainly bitmap rather than real
00:12.09lurgymanyeah
00:12.36scanlinewow, it got late
00:14.35captain_protonarf
00:15.17scanlineyou could steal some change from my room and take it out of my bill :)
00:15.33captain_protonhmm, ok
00:18.18captain_protonspeaking of which
00:18.29captain_protoni have a great idea for darth_mall, lurgyman, scanline, and all of lurgyman's roommates
00:19.43scanlinehrm.. I'm not sure there's a clean way to do this I/O mapping
00:20.07scanlinethis nasty preprocessor trick would have been cute, but apparently gpasm isn't sophisticated enough for it
00:20.27scanlineI could pull in all of rcpod's "pin descriptor" code, but that would be somewhat crufty
00:26.39file[desk]mmm... nacho cheese doritos
00:29.44zak17
00:29.51file[desk]17.5
00:30.01lurgymaneither way, file[desk] must have passed that by now :)
00:31.10scanlinew00t
00:31.13scanlinesuccessful relay test
00:32.48file[desk]scanline: did you do it twice to make sure it wasn't a fluke?
00:33.04scanline~whaleslap file[desk]
00:33.10ACTION slaps file[desk] upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
00:34.37lurgymanscanline: but wait, what if you did it n times, and then it was *still* a fluke.  shouldn't you do it n+1 times to make sure it *really* isn't a fluke?
00:35.57file[desk]lurgyman says the logic!
00:36.50darth_mallwee that was fun
00:37.26lurgyman~whaleslap file[desk]
00:37.29ACTION slaps file[desk] upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
00:38.13file[desk]~whaleslap file
00:38.16ACTION slaps file upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
00:39.00darth_mall^^
00:39.16file[desk]Access to brain denied.
00:39.56Caeheh
00:40.41lurgymanhmm
00:40.45lurgymanfoooood.....
00:41.02scanlinefooooood
00:41.14lurgymanas it doesn't appear this basil chickey thing is gonna happen soon
00:41.22file[desk]phood?
00:41.30scanlinewell, I think it's finally time to come home
00:42.10lurgymanyay
00:44.18darth_mallyay for all my hw being done
00:45.00darth_mallhmmm
00:45.07zakhowever!
00:45.12zaki still want to go to the store
00:45.18zakso i can make cookies
00:46.01darth_mallcaptain_proton: what's this 'stuff' thing on my bill? is that the sticks?
00:47.17zakcaptain_proton: store
00:47.29captain_protondarth_mall: yeah
00:47.42zaks/store/store?
00:47.57darth_mallthought so
00:48.03darth_malldidn't scanline want to come?
00:48.24zakwe can wait and ask
00:52.50darth_mallhmmm... it seems that wellsfargo.com is being unhappy
00:57.10lurgymanyay, lima beans
00:59.22*** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial37-56.sbm.net.sa)
01:11.31scanlinemm... cold
01:11.43sbahraello
01:11.48lurgymanah
01:11.58lurgymanscanline: i'm supposed to ask if you want to go to the store
01:12.05scanlinestore...
01:12.11lurgymangrocery store
01:12.22scanlineyeah, I suppose we need to get curry-like ingredients :)
01:12.55captain_protonscanline: i think that was vetoed
01:13.00scanlineoh
01:13.02lurgymancuz of time constraints
01:13.02scanlinebah!
01:13.16lurgymani know :(
01:13.21scanlinewell, I went to said store not long ago, so I don't think there's anything I need
01:13.40lurgymanokeydokey
01:13.56lurgymany'all wanna go once i've finished with this dinner thing, then?
01:27.58lurgymanokey
01:30.11file[desk]ahhh sweet... two episodes of The Simpsons
01:31.21pagefaultthe first was pretty funny
01:33.00file[desk]indeed
01:35.23file[desk]yup yup yup
01:38.42carpman"Do you feel that you love December, in the rioting of spring..."
01:47.18Caeyay for recursive constructor calls that I don't know why they're happening..
01:51.05Caehow very odd.
01:51.58sbahraAkh. :]
01:57.45file[desk]my head hurts
01:58.05Caeibuprofen
01:58.19file[desk]mmm let me think... nah
01:58.37carpmanasprin?
01:59.10carpmanthats good
02:00.03file[desk]carpman: waddup?
02:00.26carpmanfile[desk]: not much
02:00.33carpmanit's hot in my room, and cold outside.
02:00.46file[desk]perhaps you should equalize so that the temperature is just right
02:00.59carpmanor I could just detonate ytou
02:01.01carpmanyou even
02:01.06file[desk]detonating me accomplishes nothing
02:01.10file[desk]besides wasting detonations
02:02.43carpmanyou cannot waste detonations.
02:03.21carpmanbbiab, installing a firewire card in mach5
02:16.17*** join/#tacobeam darkheart1981 (~somebody@12-223-104-153.client.insightbb.com)
02:16.27darkheart1981ba
02:17.47carpmanhmm... seems to work
02:18.03darkheart1981lol
02:18.14carpmanlol?
02:18.36darkheart1981(just in that kind of mood lol)
02:33.22file[desk]carpman: mach5 has firewire now? nifty.
02:35.30lurgymanhup!
02:41.10scanlinewow.. this openoffice.org code they linked to has almost no comments
02:41.26file[desk]ooh people are talking in here
02:41.28scanlinea couple really tiny ones, and a longer one in German
02:41.49scanlinebut most notably no explanation of what each function does
02:42.19captain_protonwow
02:42.23captain_protonnoone has claimed the ipod sync
02:43.20lurgymanhehe
02:45.50lurgymanyou should become a bigtime hacker for them :)
02:46.01ChipX86|Codingcaptain_proton: same here
02:46.03ChipX86|Codingwhich are you working on?
02:46.30lurgymanhmm
02:46.51lurgymancaptain_proton: i'm getting this when i try to install evo 1.5 into my home directory on navi:
02:46.54lurgymanFailed to write file `/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/apps/evolution/%gconf.xml.tmp'
02:47.18lurgymanwere you getting that?
02:47.21captain_protonChipX86|Coding: i'm doing the set-background thing for now (quick one, if they'd just answer my (@#&*%^* question)
02:47.35captain_protonlurgyman: well - i've been installing it into the root =P
02:47.42lurgymanpff
02:49.02lurgymanooh
02:49.41captain_protonoh no, someone submitted a patch
02:49.41file[desk]lurgyman: the matrox has you
02:50.19captain_protonand it looks very similar to my code...
02:50.52file[desk]so you did a patch for something that's now already patched?
02:51.04captain_protoni did a patch, and was waiting for an answer
02:51.09captain_protonand in the meantime, someone else submitted the same thing
02:51.13lurgyman:(
02:52.06sbahra:)
02:52.29captain_protonhmm, dinner
02:52.36sbahraIf I wasn't on dial-up I would re-download it (and I will later, and after dealing with some FreeBSD issues here, heh) :)
02:52.49sbahraFor now, I'm stuck with one of the worst mail clients I have seen, sylpheed :)
02:55.52lurgymanyou should just use ed and your mail directory :)
02:56.13sbahraheh
02:56.58filemy own mother who rarely uses a computer... refuses to go back to dialup now :)
02:57.09lurgymanain't nothin' wrong with pine
02:58.53captain_protonlots of stuff wrong with pine
02:59.14lurgymanlies! all lies!
02:59.25sbahraheh. There WERE lots of problem with pine.
02:59.29sbahra:)
03:00.26lurgymancaptain_proton: ooh, did you see my latest diabolical css tampering?
03:00.36lurgymanin-progress, of course
03:02.11captain_protonno
03:02.33lurgymanhttp://navi.picogui.org/~lurgyman/css
03:02.48lurgymanit's reasonably similar to before
03:03.04lurgymanonly i had a much better idea what i was doing this time :)
03:03.22captain_protonuhoh
03:03.56lurgymanyikes!
03:20.50captain_protoneww, it was tarred?
03:20.55captain_protoni wish you had told me before i ate it
03:21.51lurgymancaptain_proton: prisoner later?
03:25.37captain_protonlurgyman: get checks from your roommates too
03:25.48captain_protoneither that or get me the MAC address of the wireless base station they use :P
03:26.45lurgymancaptain_proton: for just this month? did they pay prev. months yet?
03:30.26lurgymanyay, ducks for all!
03:31.09captain_protonlurgyman: they paid for oct, need the nov
03:31.22captain_protonnavi/~jupiter/bills is accurate
03:31.57lurgymanokeydokey
03:32.39lurgymancaptain_proton: here, lemme give you their IM dealies... just for usefulness' sake
03:32.56lurgymanstephen is Scc5824
03:33.09lurgymanryan is rkelley02@mac.com
03:35.52lurgymanthey're claiming ignorance on that front
03:36.18lurgymaner
03:36.21lurgymanryan is, anyways
03:36.25darth_mallscc5824??
03:36.31darth_mallthat's his nick on AIM?
03:36.35lurgymanyep
03:36.42darth_mallwhat the hell kinda nick is that?
03:37.02darth_mallthat's horrid
03:37.08lurgymanyou should IM him and ask
03:37.08darth_malland ryan pays for a .mac account?
03:37.19lurgymanyou should IM him and ask
03:37.24darth_mallhehe
03:37.29lurgyman:)
03:40.45lurgymandarth_mall: prisoner?
03:41.09Caeaddict :P
03:41.29lurgymanwell, we're doing a run through them :)
03:41.33darth_malllurgyman: sure, after this red dwarf
03:41.34Caehehe
03:41.44lurgymanas it's been a while
03:41.50lurgymanyay for darth_mall!
03:41.54captain_protonlurgyman: ryan.kelley at colorado.edu correct?
03:42.01captain_protonbecause if so, he got the email
03:42.13lurgymangrr
03:42.17lurgymanyou should talk to him about this
03:42.28lurgyman:)
03:42.42captain_protonlurgyman: just get him to write me a check for $4.15
03:43.07fileI still say you guys need an automatic monthly withdrawal system
03:43.19lurgymanwell
03:43.47lurgymanpeople get cranky writing $5 checks every month, it seems kinda silly
03:43.51lurgyman...to them
03:44.04fileautomatic payment via evil Paypal
03:44.17darth_mallI wonder why the aspect ratio on this one is so messed up
03:44.31darth_mall~fishslap file
03:44.34ACTION slaps file up side the head with a wet fish.
03:44.34lurgymaniz prolley a yonked-out file
03:48.25lurgymangrr
03:48.52filedo you really write that many checks?
03:49.40lurgymancaptain_proton: i'll need to wait until i go home, thanksgiving or so, till i can get you a check... otherwise, i can go by an ATM tomorrow if you're happy with cash.  but i do have 2 checks from the couple here.
03:50.17lurgymanfile: well, everybody wants a check for some amount <$20 every month.
03:50.37lurgymanand if i use checks, then odds are, i'll run out of them sooner or latEr.
03:50.56fileuh huh
04:32.22darth_mallscanline is obsolete
04:54.01Caesleep well
04:55.06scanlinethanks :)
04:55.53zakf/me makes scanline go to sleep
04:56.44darth_mallsilly scanline
04:56.55zaki am not necessarily tired, i just know i haven't had very regualr sleep and i won't sleep for the next two days, so i had better do that now ^_^
04:58.00Cae'night zak :)
04:58.28zakg'night Cae....keep protecting those x chromosomes everywhere! lol ^_^
04:59.19Caelol
05:01.48*** join/#tacobeam sbahra (~sbahra@dial37-36.sbm.net.sa)
05:02.02Caehiya
05:02.15sbahraHey Cae
05:02.17sbahraWhat's up?
05:02.28Caecalculus
05:02.58Caeit's like fun, just not.
05:03.18sbahraSounds fun.
05:07.10darth_mallno no no
05:07.30darth_mallcalculus is fun, except the opposite of that
05:07.44Caeyes
05:07.47Caeexactly
05:07.54darth_malloooh, someone gave Patrick McGoohan a mustache
05:07.56sbahraYes, that sounds fun.
05:08.13Caeheh
05:09.11Caeewww
05:10.00darth_mallsilly Cae
05:10.09Cae:\
05:10.20CaeI don't want to calculate the surface area of a torus..
05:10.35darth_mallCae: can you grow a mustache overnight
05:11.02Caeno...
05:11.12Caenot without hormone therapy..
05:11.24darth_mallwhat about gene therapy
05:11.58CaeI suppose
05:12.13darth_mallgene therapy can do anything
05:12.50sbahraAlo darth_mall
05:13.06darth_mallsbahra my friend!
05:13.26sbahraheh
05:16.36Caeew..there has to be a nicer way to do this..
05:16.54darth_mallCae: there is, it's called not doing it
05:16.58darth_mall^^
05:17.04Cae:P
05:19.01darth_mallCae: whatcha doin in particular?
05:20.33Caesurface integrals
05:20.39Caewith vectors
05:20.39darth_malleww
05:20.47Caeand vector fields
05:21.00darth_mallmmm... vector fields
05:21.30darth_malloooh... apparently lurgyman is the cube root of infinity
05:22.53Caehehe
05:24.14Caethis is so ugly..
05:26.31darth_mallugly like a mustache on lurgyman?
05:27.37Caewouldn't know
05:28.03CaeI don't think I've ever seen pictures of lurgyman, with or without mustache.
05:28.17Caeor most of you besides gonk..
05:28.48darth_mallyou've seen gonk with a mustache?
05:29.24Caeno
05:29.33CaeI'd imagine that would be frightening
05:29.36darth_mallyou mean you lied to me?
05:29.39darth_mall=(
05:29.40Caeyes
05:29.45Cae:P
05:33.56Caemobius strips are cool..
05:35.16Caeso what do I feel like doing now..
05:35.20Caeoh.
05:35.23Caedamn.
05:36.43darth_malldamn?
05:37.09CaeI need to create a truly hideous image of a ship
05:37.19darth_mallfor?
05:41.02Caecreate, or borrow..
05:41.04Caefor the game..
05:41.06Caewe need a boss.
05:41.21CaeI'm thinking this might be a job for disturbingly-obsessed star wars people
05:41.35darth_mallthe boss is a ship eh?
05:41.40darth_mallwhat kind of ship?
05:42.35Caea big rectangle
05:43.03kergothbored.
05:43.19Cae(literally, it's a 20x200 rectangle at the moment)
05:43.20darth_mallpoor kergoth, you should invent something
05:43.35Caeplay with sharp objects and matches
05:44.31kergothmmmm matches
05:44.42ChipX86|Codingcaptain_proton: how goes the bounty?
05:45.53darth_mallChipX86|Coding: he says someone already submitted a patch, and he may or may not submit his
05:46.00ChipX86|Coding:(
05:46.03ChipX86|Codingthat sucks
05:46.09ChipX86|CodingI'm facing a possible issue with me
05:46.45ChipX86|Codingnobody else is doing it, or at least isn't in any workable stage.. mine's finished. Nat loves it, and realized who I am and had nice things to say, but I have to get the patch past Sean.... that's the hard part
05:47.32darth_mallNat? Sean?
05:47.35CaeSean
05:47.42ChipX86|CodingNat Friedman, co-founder of Ximian
05:47.44ChipX86|CodingSean Egan, lead devel of gaim
05:48.03darth_mallso why is getting it past Sean a problem?
05:48.21ChipX86|CodingI don't think he likes me
05:48.32darth_malloh
05:48.48ChipX86|Codingbut the advantage is, Nat is the big guy in charge of a lot of things, and is the one who wanted this particular thing, and is very happy with how I did it
05:49.06darth_malldid you do it in pencil?
05:49.10sbahraWhat patch ChipX86|Coding?
05:49.13darth_mallso you could erase your mistakes?
05:49.13ChipX86|Codingyes, pencil
05:49.17darth_mall^^
05:49.21ChipX86|Codingsbahra: replaces the Add Buddy dialog and syncs with Evolution
05:49.38ChipX86|Codinghttp://www.chipx86.com/gevo_add_buddy_1.png
05:49.44darth_mallkinda like iChat and Address Book?
05:52.44Cae"don't think he likes" you?
05:52.46Cae:P
05:52.54ChipX86|Codingheh
05:53.00CaeI sit in that channel, remember?
05:53.08ChipX86|Codingat least he was honest when he told Nat the reason why gaim's code no longer sucks
05:53.13Caeyeah.
05:53.41Caeso. anyone know of any ugly rectangle-like ships?
05:53.56ChipX86|Codingborg?
05:54.09Caeooh
05:56.00Caeyour coolness level just rose 5 points :P
05:58.45darth_mall^^
06:02.54CaeI think it's only right that the player's ship should be some form of the millenium falcon then
06:04.42captain_protonChipX86|Coding: i may end up submitting a patch for it anyways, because the one the guy added has a couple of small issues
06:04.49captain_protonbut my motivation for it was sapped away
06:04.53ChipX86|Codingyeah, might as well
06:04.54ChipX86|Codingnod
06:04.57ChipX86|Codingso was mine earlier
06:05.23captain_protonprobably weather
06:05.27captain_protonlurgyman: get to work!
06:05.32captain_protoni'll *ahem* do the UI
06:07.11lurgymanheh
06:07.14lurgymanof course!
06:07.25darth_mallcaptain_proton: what are you stealing my iPod for?
06:07.26captain_protonsubmitting my patch may look bad on my part, because our code looks pretty much exactly the same
06:07.30lurgymanyou can just port all the qweather UI stuff straight over :)
06:07.49lurgymanwell, it's worth a try anyways :)
06:08.00darth_mallhmmm... what to listen to
06:08.19captain_protonlurgyman: of course!~
06:08.23captain_protonand you can port the parser!
06:08.28lurgymanof course!
06:09.11lurgymanbut yeah...
06:09.33lurgymanit could be somewhat of a trick making the parsing bits non-abominable
06:09.39lurgymanespecially if it's all gonna be in C
06:09.41captain_protonwell
06:09.49captain_protonthe stuff they want isn't quite this same thing
06:10.06lurgymanyeah, but they're gonna want us to extract the temperatures out
06:10.30captain_protonit looks like they want something a -bit- more concise than what the NWS puts out
06:10.34lurgymanand general conditions
06:10.37lurgymanyep
06:11.16lurgymanproblem is, i bet they would be unhappy at, say, an embedded perl bit...
06:11.38lurgymanthough i suppose i could just have a few keywords and do some regex stuff.
06:11.39lurgymanyeck
06:12.24lurgymanooh, new galeon release
06:12.25captain_protonwhere does evo get its current conditions from?
06:12.57lurgymanhmm
06:13.04lurgymannws, presumably
06:14.28lurgymaner
06:14.29lurgymanhmm
06:14.32lurgymanthat's kind of interesting
06:14.42lurgymanit sends me to http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/
06:15.04captain_protonyeah...
06:15.12darth_mallhen3ry
06:15.16darth_mallthe 3 is silent ^^
06:15.24lurgymanheheh
06:15.25lurgyman?
06:17.54lurgymanyay, that would be fun
06:19.24captain_protonumm
06:19.28captain_proton1.5 should have a weather dealy
06:20.47lurgymanthey got rid of the summary in 1.5
06:21.02lurgymanso presumably not
06:21.38captain_protonhm, they did?
06:23.24lurgymanyikes, this is kinda scary
06:24.13lurgyman<PROTECTED>
06:24.31lurgymanew, the URL is hard-coded in
06:24.44lurgyman...pretty much
06:25.21lurgymanstatic char *make_url (const char *code){    return g_strdup_printf ("http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mgetmetar.pl?cccc=%s", code);}
06:25.46captain_protonso they did
06:25.49lurgymanso i don't think anything i would do nowadays could be much more gross
06:26.02captain_protonhmm, metar
06:26.11lurgymanyeah
06:26.20captain_protondoes noaa provide forecast in metar form?
06:26.55lurgymanooh, hmm
06:27.26darth_mallcaptain_proton: weren't you supposed to be doing hw?
06:27.27darth_mall^^
06:28.03lurgymanhmm, it doesn't look like it
06:28.37captain_protondarth_mall: i did my lab
06:28.40lurgymanlooks like metar is just for current conditions :(
06:28.40darth_malloh
06:28.44darth_mall^^
06:29.32captain_protonugh
06:29.40captain_protonplease tell me that we don't have to use the zone forecasts :P
06:30.27lurgymanfortunately for our purposes... we'd just need to regex for lines that started with .[a-z]
06:31.12captain_protonhuh?
06:31.29lurgymanSYNOPSIS...ALF...
06:31.33lurgymanhmm
06:31.35lurgymananyway
06:32.03captain_protonthere's got to be a nicer source
06:32.23captain_protonsomeplace with something a bit more concise than the zones
06:32.53lurgymanhmm
06:32.55lurgymanhttp://www.crh.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/COZ039.php?zo=1&city=Boulder+And+Jefferson+Counties+Below+6000+Feet/West+Broomfield+County
06:33.10captain_protonhmm
06:33.14lurgymansomehow they have a php dealy that does that for the picture bits
06:35.05lurgymanhmm
06:35.22lurgymanwell here's a directory full of all the data they have for boulder (...i *think*...)
06:35.25lurgymanhttp://www.crh.noaa.gov/data/BOU/
06:35.51lurgymanunfortunately i haven't found any documentation for it
06:35.59Caebeing this conscious on ~6 hours of sleep should not be allowed
06:36.52Caehm. I can use .pngs..
06:37.07captain_protonooh, that road conditions report is neat
06:37.29captain_protonmost of that data looks historic
06:37.39lurgymanhehe, cool
06:37.46lurgymanCae: sleep, i command ye!
06:38.33lurgymanheh, well... that html file has lots of lines like
06:38.36lurgyman<PROTECTED>
06:38.45CaeNOOOOOOO!
06:39.10lurgyman:)
06:39.37captain_protongeez
06:39.42captain_protonthese icons need some imagination
06:39.43captain_protonhttp://www.crh.noaa.gov/weather/images/fcicons/fog.png
06:39.58lurgymanhahaha
06:40.24captain_proton=}
06:41.57captain_protonooh, just as good
06:41.59captain_protonhttp://www.crh.noaa.gov/weather/images/fcicons/smoke.png
06:43.13lurgymanhehehe
06:44.31lurgymanhmm
06:44.41lurgymanso there are these TAF things
06:44.47lurgymanwhich i believe may be forecasts
06:44.50lurgymanfor airports
06:45.01captain_protonthat sounds right
06:45.08captain_protoni think metar is current for airports
06:45.15lurgymanyeah, that looks about right
06:45.20lurgymanhttp://adds.aviationweather.gov/tafs/
06:45.56lurgymanjust hafta figure out how to parse them :)
06:46.19captain_protoni remember in our qweather days that i had found a description of the format
06:46.53lurgymanhttp://www.tpub.com/weather3/4a-3.htm
06:49.09lurgymanhmm, another http://zowie.metnet.navy.mil/~spawar/JMV-TNG/XML/OMF-TAF.html
06:51.53lurgymanhmm
06:52.02lurgymanyeah
06:52.14lurgymanmaybe only a day or so in advance
06:52.32captain_protonplus it only gives temperature/wind/visibility/etc
06:52.46captain_protonthings that pilots care about, but not really as useful as "partly cloudy"
06:52.49lurgymanyeah
06:53.45lurgymanlooks like we might end up yoinking stuff from the zone forecast :-/
06:54.05captain_protonwell - where is that page getting the "forecast at a glance" from?
06:55.09lurgymanpresumably by some nasty parsing of the zone forecast, though it might be worth mailing them to find out
06:56.59captain_proton/data/forecasts/state/co/coz039.txt
06:57.36lurgymanoooooooooooooooooh
06:57.44captain_protonlooks sexy to me
06:57.53lurgymanindeed
06:58.52lurgymanparsing could be unpleasant, but not painful like fer the zone forecasts
06:59.37captain_protonthere's probably something easier too
06:59.53captain_protonmay want to email them anyhoo
07:00.56lurgymanyep, but even just ripping it out of that file wouldn't be *so* bad
07:01.38captain_protonshould probably add the top part of the backend and just have it provide fake data until the best option is clear
07:01.42lurgymansheesh, that page is slow
07:01.52captain_protonlooks like not everything in that directory is the same format =/
07:02.01lurgymanyeah :(
07:03.23lurgymanwow, there's some random stuff in there
07:05.49captain_protonhmm, creepy
07:05.57captain_protonthere's a "Jon Trowbridge" in the evo 1.4 credits
07:06.12lurgymanhehe
07:06.40captain_protonalmost as creepy as there being a david trowbridge as a character in a twilight zone episode
07:11.06lurgyman:)
07:11.16captain_protonwow, smooth beyond belief
07:11.29Caehmm
07:12.38lurgymanhehe
07:13.05darth_mall^^
07:15.46lurgymancaptain_proton: huh... the first 66 files in that directory are identical
07:16.01captain_protonlurgyman: uhhuh
07:16.36lurgymanwait
07:16.38lurgymani tell a lie
07:16.40lurgymanall of them are the saem
07:16.43lurgymaner
07:16.44lurgymansame
07:16.52lurgymanthey just weren't done d/ling :)
07:18.45captain_protonhmm
07:18.45Caeit's amazing how much a hunk of borg cube cut down looks like a ship
07:19.07lurgymanheheh
07:19.28lurgymanyikes, the file really changes starting at coz089
07:19.35captain_protonyup
07:20.26lurgymanyikes, it's getting late
07:20.32Caehm. so it is.
07:20.35lurgymanCae: and you should to!
07:20.36lurgymano
07:20.38lurgyman!
07:20.47Caeha
07:20.51CaeI found a bug
07:21.10lurgymanhmm?
07:21.34Caeit says "Look, you have more lives, get back in there" and "You win, pretty exciting huh?"
07:21.46captain_protoni requested my dad help me build a throwing target, since he has tools and stuff
07:21.53captain_protonand my sister asked "can't you just do darts?"
07:21.59lurgymanhehehe
07:22.20lurgymanCae: that's not a bug, it's a psychological thrill for the user
07:22.28Cae:P
07:22.35Caethe boss also have movement issues
07:22.40Caeand the bullets have bounds issues
07:22.47lurgymanhehe
07:22.52lurgymansounds pretty solid :)
07:23.04Caeyou can also go offscreen
07:23.26Caehmm..how to make explosions visible
07:24.31lurgymannight all
07:24.39captain_proton'night lurgyman
07:24.45Caesleep well
07:24.50lurgymanthanks :)
07:27.27Caeheh
07:30.59Caeooh
07:31.03Caepretty explosions
07:35.04Caepreeeeeeetty...
07:36.38Caeoffset for the player..
07:36.43Caehmm
07:46.32Caethere.
07:48.20captain_protonwho the hell set that topic
07:48.58captain_protontime to make it worse :)
07:49.05*** topic/#tacobeam by captain_proton -> Richard Dean Anderson "foils" bad guys with gum wrappers.
07:50.14darth_mallwhat was the topic before? I missed it?
07:50.22darth_malls/it\?/it./
07:50.26Caedunno
07:50.36Caesomething about cold?
07:50.40captain_proton--- Topic for #tacobeam is brrrrrr || moses supposed his toes were roses...but then moses frozed and he no longer supposed~
07:50.45darth_mallthat was jen
07:50.46Caeyeah.
07:51.29darth_mallarg
07:52.02captain_protonooh, darth_mall is listening to a good piano concerto
07:52.22darth_mall^^
07:52.34darth_mallbut I am having no luck finding an svg renderer for python
07:53.23captain_protontime for my stretching dealybob
07:53.47captain_protondarth_mall: swig makes it easy
07:53.56darth_mallswig?
07:54.14captain_protonswig
07:54.20darth_mallwhat is swig?
07:54.34captain_protonsimple wrapper interface generator
07:54.35captain_protonor something
07:59.56captain_protonooh
08:00.01captain_protonthe russian spammers are at it again
08:01.36darth_mallnight kids
08:01.43captain_proton'night darth_mall
08:02.56Caesleep well
08:04.00Caehmm..what do I want to play with now..
08:27.40Caeg'night :)
11:11.16scanlineeeyagh...
11:11.28scanlinecory committed his LabWorks stuff to CVS after I went to bed
11:11.32scanlinethis is kind of scary code...
11:12.27scanlineIt's C++, but I think he only uses classes at all in the GUI
11:12.41scanlineeverything's quite intertwangled with the UI code...
11:13.16scanlineand apparently this 'very large' program is about 5000 lines
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13:53.14scanlinemornin'
13:56.31scanlineso much to live for, so much to die for
13:56.36scanlineif only my heart had a home
14:21.39scanlineoh no!
14:29.29zakcaptain_proton: running a bit slow, an extra 5 mintues? please?
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16:29.08Caemorning
16:29.15ChipX86morning
16:30.41CaeI have the vague feeling that there's something I'm maybe supposed to be doing..
16:30.53Cae..but I don't know what it is, so I'll ignore it
16:31.38scanlinewibblydoo.. time for class, work, class, and more work
16:31.42Caeheh
16:31.45Caeenjoy :)
16:31.51scanlineyep
16:31.52Caesounds funs :P
16:32.10scanlinewell, the work is a little on the fun side since I'm writing python code mostly
16:32.38Caecool.
16:36.39darth_mallewww it's morning
16:40.21Caeheh
16:40.41Caewhat, no "yay, morning!" ?
16:41.08ChipX86meh
16:41.51gonk-workCae: not today it seems
16:42.01Caefor me either
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16:43.27gonk-workand now I reboot because OS X tells me to
16:46.27gonk-workhi sbahra
16:49.03sbahraHey
16:53.47Cae"The Church taught forgiveness and gentleness, and by preaching the Crusades.." wouldn't that seem at least mildly contradictory?
16:58.10Caebye Chip
16:58.21scanlineyay, by getting here a little early I get treated to watching the prof read news on the projector
16:58.28scanlinehahahaha
16:58.35darth_mallwow, I wonder if this actually worked
16:58.41scanlinehe's looking for a link about "the cathedral and the bazaar"
16:58.41Caelol
16:58.47scanlinetoday's I'm going to learn what open source is
17:00.11darth_mallscanline: have you ever used swig before?
17:00.46scanlineyeah
17:01.01scanlineit's a lot nicer than writing the wrappers by hand, or using boost :)
17:01.10scanlineswig is indeed easy, and it works nicely
17:01.26darth_mallall I had to do was write a .i file with librsvg.h included and all the function prototypes
17:01.37darth_malland I've got a .py file and a .c wrapper file ^^
17:01.46scanlineit gets a little tricky if you have to access data inside C arrays or structures, but if everything is an opaque data type that's all you need to do usually
17:01.54sbahraSwig, ewww
17:02.11scanlinesbahra: oh please :P
17:03.06sbahraWell, you can't blame me with my experience with Swig (my only experience with Swig was being called on to remove "this horrible dependancy") :]
17:03.16scanlineheh
17:03.36scanlineOH BOY, I get to learn XML and XSLT!
17:03.47scanlinewhat a useful class...
17:03.51sbahralol
17:04.03darth_mallhmm... something didn't work right
17:04.15scanlinehar har, and he's going to cover xslt in one lecture
17:04.24scanlinedoes he have any idea how big the standard is?
17:04.35darth_malloh well, I should get dressed and ready to show up at the end of calc to turn in my hw
17:05.18Caeheh
17:07.02Caemm..sleepy
17:07.55scanlineoh god... this is "open source for dummies" or something
17:08.02Caeack
17:08.06Caescanline: run!
17:08.23scanlineeasier to just update my CVS on here and do something I can get paid for :)
17:08.31Caehehe
17:08.32darth_mallhehe
17:08.34sbahraheh
17:09.17scanlinemmm
17:09.37Caeah, beautiful caffeine..
17:09.47CaeI only have any classes today and tomorrow..then home..
17:09.49Caehm..
17:09.57CaeI should inform my parents that I'm coming home...
17:10.56CaeI'll call them later on..
17:13.22Caeheh
17:13.33scanlineyou should reboot your ibook into a potato
17:13.49Caeyes!
17:13.51gonk-workscanline: the last time I did that, I couldn't integrate for a week
17:13.57Caea baked potato! with cheese!
17:14.24Caegonk-work: picky picky, I'm hungry.. :)
17:14.40scanlinefunny that he's telling us all what open source is while I open a new file and paste an LGPL header into it
17:14.41gonk-workwhy the hell is snes9x running...
17:14.43darth_mallhmm... still haven't heard back from my lab partner about the code I sent him yesterday
17:15.01darth_mallgonk-work: because it's the only thing that runs well on OS X ^^
17:15.09gonk-workdarth_mall: hush )
17:15.09darth_mall=P
17:15.15gonk-work:) even...
17:15.18Caescanline: hehe
17:18.47darth_malltime to pack up the bags
17:23.28gonk-workthis Xcode thing is pretty cool
17:23.52darth_mallgonk-work: are you learning how to program Xcode like Dan?
17:23.54darth_mall>=)
17:24.25gonk-workdarth_mall: no, not like Dan :)
17:24.38kergothmorning
17:24.44gonk-workkergoth: bastard
17:25.52gonk-workdarth_mall: I use the command line utilities that they wouldn't ever talk about in the magazines... like Makefiles :)
17:27.25Caemorning kergoth
17:28.26kergothmorning Cae
17:28.32Caeeep, 44 degrees..
17:28.40Caewhat's with the 30 degree drop?
17:28.53Cae:D
17:29.30CaeI'm female. all responses will be WRONG! mwahahaha.
17:30.19darth_mallwell, time to be off
17:30.25Caehave fun
17:30.32gonk-workCae: thats a "right" response
17:30.37gonk-work:)
17:30.48gonk-works/gots/goes/
17:30.52Caenot if I choose to say you're ignoring me and avoiding the point
17:30.59Cae:)
17:31.15gonk-workat which point I would divulge into some less than thought out personification of vogon poetry
17:31.19gonk-workwhich is never the answer
17:31.26Caenope
17:31.34Caebut I'm late, so I won't pursue it.
17:31.47gonk-workthus, since I use the wrong answer in a wrong situation, I have been exceedingly
17:31.50gonk-workok
17:31.54gonk-worklater Cae
17:32.06Caebye
17:32.47Cae|Classkergoth: have a FUN day ;)
17:32.55kergothits monday, always!
17:33.12gonk-workhow about some scotch?
17:33.19Cae|Classtoo early :P
17:33.24kergothnah, bit early for that
17:33.24kergothyeah
17:33.25kergothheh
17:33.33gonk-workwhat!
17:33.55gonk-workkergoth: you're supposed to say its never too early for scotch
17:33.55kergothoops
17:33.59kergothdamn monday's throwing me off
17:34.12gonk-work~mondays
17:34.14Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays!
17:43.09scanlineyay, it's over
17:43.22gonk-workscanline: congradulations on not dying :)
18:00.48hardwirehi
18:01.04gonk-workhi hardwire
18:01.12hardwirehi gonk
18:09.50purple_cowblah
18:09.53purple_cowblah blah blah
18:09.58darth_mallwho missed me?
18:10.10purple_cowsome assclown *cough*lurgyman*cough* needs to learn how to close doors properly
18:10.33hardwireit happens
18:13.22purple_cowlurgyman's just lucky that the varnish on my instrument is really well done and it didn't crack
18:14.22darth_mallpurple_cow: ??
18:14.35purple_cowdarth_mall: he didn't close the car door properly last night
18:14.37purple_cowso the dome light was on
18:14.42purple_cowand this morning, i couldn't start it
18:15.26purple_cowwhich meant walking to the bus stop & waiting
18:15.27purple_cowoutside
18:15.32purple_cowin the 20F air
18:15.47scanlineaww, purple_cow had to wait for the bus
18:15.49scanlineso sad
18:16.06purple_cowscanline: yeah, with a very temperature-sensitive instrument
18:16.45gonk-workhmm...
18:16.56gonk-workthere is a live stream from where I am working
18:17.06gonk-workhttp://studentactivities.mscd.edu/live.html
18:17.23gonk-workits a bit laggy, but I am in the shot :)
18:19.56purple_cowgah, i hate these old imac keyboards
18:20.06purple_cowits like typing on a pile of jello
18:21.32gonk-workpurple_cow: its all part of the joys
18:24.06darth_mallthere's always room for jello
18:38.50hardwireso
18:38.53hardwireI need to make a watch
18:39.00hardwirethat has 3 ultra bright leds in it
18:39.02hardwireand a jog dial
18:39.17hardwirethat sends out rf commands to a reciever that sends it to a host machine via USB
18:39.18hardwireyou know
18:39.47hardwiresomething that has like a 10 meter range for commands
18:39.56hardwirethat way you can program it to do things like change the volume
18:40.06hardwireand a bunch of namable jogs for things like song skip.. ff..rr..
18:40.13hardwirealso "lock/unlock" computer
18:40.14hardwireheh
18:40.19hardwireyou know what I am saying
18:40.24hardwireyou know.. what I.. am saying?
18:40.40hardwireso who's with me!
18:40.43hardwireth ebat watch
18:40.46hardwirethe bat watch
18:40.46hardwirehehe
18:40.55hardwiremaybe it would be cooler as a belt buckle
18:41.07kergothheh. just make your BT zaurus or cell do it :)
18:43.27scanlinethis is so much nicer than cory's C++ code
18:43.34scanlineclass fc_relay(Command):
18:43.34scanline<PROTECTED>
18:43.34scanline<PROTECTED>
18:43.34scanline<PROTECTED>
18:43.38scanlinegod I love python
18:44.31darth_malloff to class
19:03.44darth_malleww for physics
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19:04.25kergoth~fishslap darth_mall
19:04.33ACTION slaps darth_mall up side the head with a wet fish.
19:04.40darth_mallwhat was that for?
19:05.00kergothewwing at physics
19:05.02gonk-workthats why
19:05.03gonk-workoh
19:05.14darth_mallkergoth; that would be physics the class
19:05.21kergothahh okay, thats fine then
19:05.22kergoth:)
19:05.25darth_mallnot physics the field os science
19:05.30darth_malls/os/of/
19:05.37darth_mall^^
19:07.37gonk-workyay for professor potato head
19:08.10darth_mallgonk, not yay
19:08.16darth_mallnever yay for wyss
19:08.27gonk-worksorry
19:08.35darth_mallwyss needs to be hit with a large stick
19:08.46darth_mallmany many many many times
19:24.34darth_malloi
19:24.38kergothhrm
19:26.33gonk-workdarth_mall: don't die
19:27.18gonk-worknoooooo
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19:37.59darth_mallrar I say!
19:38.02darth_mallrar!
19:39.51gonk-workdarth_mall: prollems?
19:41.02darth_malljust bored
19:41.09gonk-workah, ok
19:41.16gonk-workwhen I get bored, I talk to Rob
19:41.18darth_malland sick to death of wyss
19:41.27gonk-workthen I am so disturbed that I don't feel bored anymore
19:41.45darth_mallrob doesn't disturb me
19:42.17gonk-workoh
19:42.21gonk-workhmm...
19:52.21gonk-workcrap...
20:02.14gonk-classyay for having two terminals of exactly the same terminal right below this one
20:09.16gonk-classyay darth_mall
20:09.37darth_mallyup
20:09.58scanlineboing
20:10.13darth_mallscanline!
20:10.21darth_mallgonk-class!
20:10.29gonk-class:)
20:16.27Caeheh
20:19.15darth_mallwb Cae
20:19.38Caety
20:19.49kergothbleh.
20:20.39Caegoooooooood morning kergoth!
20:21.46darth_malldamn< i shoulda bout Mt. Dew yesterday
20:21.51Caeheh
20:22.21kergothi'm trying to cut down on my soda and caffeine intake.  again.
20:22.35darth_mallthat was the reason I didn't buy any yesterady
20:23.30darth_mallbut now as I finish off my last 2 litre bottle I wish I had more
20:23.43kergothheh, dont give in to temptation!
20:23.43kergoth:P
20:24.01darth_mall^^
20:24.25kergothbleh, getting lightheaded, need food
20:26.22CaeI like my caffeine addiction. Being addicted to horses, computers, and swords just isn't enough by itself.
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20:33.22merlin{Yokohama}*yawns*
20:33.25darth_mallooh... merlin{Yokohama}
20:33.36merlin{Yokohama}the merlin is in!
20:33.51darth_mallhi scanline
20:33.54darth_mallsleep well?
20:34.04scanlinenot really
20:34.07darth_mall=(
20:34.11scanlinewoke up after 5 hours, and I needed more than that
20:35.04darth_mallscanline: is there any chance you might give me a hand with this swig thing tonight? if you aren't asleep?
20:35.23scanlineyea
20:35.34darth_mallyay!
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20:44.20Caewhat kind of cake?
20:44.36gonk-classdang
20:44.41darth_mallit's this 'snacking' cake stuff
20:44.45darth_mallgerman chocolate
20:44.48darth_malladd water and bake ^^
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20:45.37Caeheh
20:46.16darth_mallhey pagefault
20:46.40gonk-classhmm...
20:46.44gonk-classseems to be working now
20:46.48gonk-classfor the most part :)
20:48.54gonk-classhmm...
20:49.01Caesleepy..
20:49.14gonk-classpeople are emailing me off the AuMUG list as if I know something about what goes on
20:49.49darth_mallwhat?
20:50.25gonk-classoh, peopletrying to score points with me for some crazy reason
20:50.38darth_mallI see
20:50.43darth_mallyou should fire them all
20:50.48gonk-classagain, like I know something of what goes on with the MUG I am the president of
20:50.58gonk-classyeah
20:51.55Caeheh
20:51.57Caeresist ;)
20:53.51pagefaulthey darth_mall, whats up
21:00.48Caewb
21:01.57kergoththanks
21:02.14gonk-classkergoth: is it un-early enough for scotch now?
21:02.50darth_mallhehe
21:06.21captain_protonwidgey
21:06.42captain_protonhmm, lunch
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21:16.05captain_protongonkulator: MUGs are were a bunch of people get together and watch movie trailers
21:17.12darth_malllol
21:18.09darth_mallcaptain_proton: I'd like to join you on that one
21:18.14darth_mallif I could
21:18.38captain_protonmmmk
21:22.12captain_protonooh
21:22.22captain_protonhavoc's working on removing the round trip in expose events
21:22.50merlin{Yokohama}hrm. I think openoffice is b0rked on my machine. :(
21:26.21captain_protonmy mouth tastes like burning
21:27.07scanlineyay for python
21:27.24kergothhmmm
21:27.55captain_protonoh god
21:28.20captain_proton"preliminary exposé implementation on the new X server"
21:28.29kergothif i create upwards of 5800 symlinks on a ramfs i can reliably make my ln or echo process hit an undefined instruction on this board
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21:35.22gonk-detahcedlater darth_mall
21:37.01gonk-worklater captain_proton
21:38.03scanlineyay, this thing gets confused when I have multiple devices on the network at the same address
21:39.59pagefaulhttp://web.archive.org/web/19981202230410/http://www.google.com/
21:40.00pagefaulwow
21:40.04pagefaulugly logo
21:40.33fileoooh disturbing
21:40.50gonk-workyay for google way back when
21:44.16captain_protonok, leaving time
21:44.43Caebye captain_proton
21:44.52Caehi ChipX86
21:44.58ChipX86hey
21:45.28ChipX86waiting for Nat to get on.. there are some things he wanted that just can't be done without confusing and possibly irritating users, but I know Sean won't let me commit without them, so I need to have a design discussion :/
21:46.26Caeheh..that should be oh so fun
21:47.19ChipX86yeah
21:47.23ChipX86but Nat likes me
21:47.27ChipX86so it won't be too bad
21:50.19Caenod
21:58.22gonk-workChipX86: I don't suppose you know the release of adium that will use gaim as the backend, do yoU?
21:58.24gonk-workyou even :)
21:59.50ChipX86nope
22:00.08gonk-workah, ok
22:00.57gonk-workeeew... Pepsi One is almost as nasty as diet caffeine free cherry cola
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22:05.21gonk-workfile[desk]!!!!
22:05.26file[desk]:) hi
22:07.41gonk-workhmm...
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22:36.55carpmanblehhh
22:44.53gonk-workhey carpman
22:47.21carpmanhey gonk-work, whats up?
22:50.49gonk-workoh, just late for class
22:50.57gonk-worksorry for starting a conversation without having time to finish it :)
22:51.11gonk-detachedlater carpman and everyone else (that means you darth_mall)
22:52.03file[desk]:)
23:37.20darth_mallnoo!
23:37.22darth_mallI missed gonk-detached
23:39.37darth_mallooh
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23:44.36lurgymanyay, sodipodi
23:47.36sbahrasodipodi is wierd :)
23:53.56kergoth0hmm
23:53.59kergother hmm
23:54.03darth_mallI'm making a Tim Burton-esque gallows for Hangman

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