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05:23.43*** topic/#tacobeam is Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. || Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy || T minus 10 days! || never caviar. i do have oat bran, which is better for your heart
05:24.26purple_cowooh/ we get a proper ibot
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05:49.39*** topic/#tacobeam is Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. || Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy || T minus 10 days! || never caviar. i do have oat bran, which is better for your heart
05:51.10scanlineyay, jbot's here
05:54.44darth_mallyay jbot!
05:55.14purple_cowwoooooooooof
05:57.08darth_mallrofl
05:57.14darth_mallI almost spit my coffee onto the floor
05:57.44lurgymanyep
05:57.48lurgymantheoretical turkey jerkey
05:58.55zakmy favorite!
05:59.11lurgymanhurray!
05:59.17darth_mallzak: you should bring us some donuts and make us some coffee ^^
05:59.30zakhmm...
05:59.45zakdarth_mall: i has no donuts, and i can't make coffee
05:59.54scanlinezheoretical turkey jerkey!
06:00.00lurgymanwhere's the lemon juice?
06:00.05darth_mallyou could get some donuts, and we actually already have coffee
06:00.18darth_mallpurple_cow already noticed that
06:00.59purple_cowmy favorite is a quality band
06:01.15purple_cowlurgyman: you keep leaving it here :P
06:01.49purple_cow'night zak
06:02.08purple_cowlurgyman: we're partaking in video entertainment atm
06:02.13darth_malllurgyman should come and get it and also play some Smash
06:02.22lurgymanhmm, smash...
06:05.31lurgymanooh
06:05.32lurgymanhmm
06:05.34lurgymanshostakovich - Film & Suite - The Assault on Beautiful Gorky
06:05.39lurgymanthat sounds most interesting :)
06:05.59purple_cowyay for shosty
06:06.25lurgymanmmm
06:06.32lurgymannow *there*'s an offer i can't refuse...
06:06.43darth_mallin one swallow
06:06.50darth_mallwe could get a funnel and some rubber hose...
06:07.23hardwireyou namby pamby hippies
06:07.48darth_mallnaw, I bet you could tame your digestive system
06:07.58darth_mallit's at least worth a shot
06:08.24purple_cowlurgyman: you just need to focus your chi
06:08.36darth_mallhe could focus his chai
06:08.40darth_mallthen he'd get really sick
06:08.49lurgymanheh
06:09.38lurgymanhardwire: i'll make a meal of it and have fermented vegetables and fermented lumpy cheese
06:10.20lurgymanpurple_cow: i dunno, ask whoever the genii are who invented cottage cheese :)
06:10.51darth_malllurgyman: now is a good time for smash
06:10.54darth_mallheel!
06:11.38darth_mallc'mon down
06:11.45darth_mallpleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!
06:43.31lalo.quit zzzzZZZzzZzzzz
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07:06.08CIA-1gnome: nautilus paisa: 2003-12-16  Paisa Seeluangsawat  <paisa@users.sf.net>
07:06.09CIA-1gnome: * th.po: Updated Thai (th) translation.
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07:27.32lurgymanhmm
07:27.39lurgyman"Hypothetically Murdered"
07:27.44lurgymansounds like a cool play...
07:27.53lurgymanesp. if shostakovich wrote incidental music for it :)
07:30.07darth_mallthat was an interesting reactin
07:30.12darth_malls/reactin/reaction/
07:30.29lurgymanferking djudle
07:32.22purple_cowso that's how you spell it
07:34.30lurgymanyep
07:41.34gonkulatorlurgyman: http://ion.picogui.org/prayer.txt
07:41.50gonkulatorits a friend's away message
07:46.31purple_cowgonkulator: the scansion is inconsistent :)
07:46.51lurgymanhehe
07:47.19gonkulatornight lurgyman
07:47.31purple_cowtook me a while to remember, but i got there in the end
07:47.32lurgymannight
07:47.34lurgymanheh
07:48.20purple_cow'night lurgyman
07:48.49gonkulatordarth_mall: thats Kenton's away message :)
07:49.00darth_malltoo much free time
07:49.07gonkulatormebbe
07:49.20darth_mallooooooh, how I love this theme song
07:49.29purple_cowmmm
07:49.39purple_cow'tis a sexy song
07:49.42gonkulatoranyway, now that I have had a few hours of sleep, its time for me to write and sleep
07:49.57darth_malldammit we need this whole show
07:50.05purple_cowyes we do
07:51.51purple_cowdarth_mall: you're gonna have to wait a while
07:51.57darth_mallnope
08:45.46ChipX86http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/story.asp?id=7530006A-C103-4E13-9A55-F6EFCC111ACC
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08:54.55purple_cowyay, it's like CIA
09:00.11scanlineyay
09:02.36purple_cowwhoopdeedoo
09:05.23gonkulatorpurple_cow: which show?
09:06.22darth_mallit's neat
09:06.28darth_mallbut not as neat as WHR, imho
09:07.00captain_protongonkulator: haibane renmei
09:07.10captain_protondarth_mall: wait until you've seen some more - specifically, #7 =)
09:07.22captain_protonits hard to compare to WHR though
09:07.30captain_protonjust because they're so very different
09:07.43darth_mallmeh
09:08.04darth_mallWHR's style generally appeals to me more so than many other styles of anime
09:08.24gonkulatorso now the question is, do I get another Dew and risk getting shakey, or do I keep slugging away on one Dew
09:08.47captain_protonso scanline
09:08.49captain_protonwhat to watch?
09:10.36scanlinehmm
09:18.27purple_cowhah
09:18.35purple_cowwhat an unusual selection
09:20.51scanlinemmmmyep
09:21.01scanlinepurple_cow: well, you're always so indecisive :)
09:22.05darth_mallwhat are you guys watching?
09:22.31scanlinedarth_mall: take a wild guess
09:22.44darth_mallI've got TMBG on in here
09:22.48scanlinebah
09:23.02gonkulatorjust cause my guess is really bad
09:23.04darth_mall~whaleslap gonkulator
09:23.10ACTION slaps gonkulator upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
09:23.10darth_mallohhh
09:23.10gonkulatoractually, scanline would whaleslap me
09:23.13gonkulatordamnit
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09:31.38darth_mallgrrr
09:46.56CIA-1trunk/cia r1225 micah: Move glade files out of 'data' so it can be cleanly used to store CIA's state
09:51.49darth_mallugh
09:53.29purple_cowmmm, its like a donut
09:56.35purple_cowyay for food
09:56.59purple_cowscanline needs to go around with anaglygh glasses like biff's goon
09:58.24scanlinemmmyep
09:58.29scanlineif only I had some
09:58.31scanlinethen I could
10:02.21darth_mallugh, I don't really understand this code at all
10:03.04darth_mallI don't want a dew
10:03.09darth_mallI want to figure out why this thing is breaking
10:03.44gonkulatoryeah, but its easier to give you a dew ^^
10:05.16darth_mallah ha!
10:06.13darth_mallat least I understand why I was confused
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10:08.53darth_mallthough I still don't know why it's not recognizing that as a comment
10:08.57gonkulatorheh, whoopsie :)
10:09.18gonkulatoryay for scanline testing the floodishness
10:09.28gonkulatorscanline: where did CIA-1 flood?
10:09.45scanlineoops
10:13.02darth_mallugh
10:13.20darth_mallmebbe I should just get some sleep
10:13.56purple_cow=/
10:14.05gonkulatordarth_mall: good night and sweet dreams
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10:14.57scanlinemmm.. soo many bots
10:15.01gonkulatorscanline: how many of these CIA bots do you think you're going to have?
10:15.09purple_cowyay
10:15.25scanlinewell, persistence seems to work
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10:27.36gonkulatorlol, Saddam bin Laden
10:28.57darth_mallhmmm
10:29.06darth_mallI think I may have found what's causing it to die
10:29.40CIA-2trunk/therm r1228 micah: Our apartment has a new switch, update the name in therms.conf
10:30.13gonkulatorscanline: why are the commits colorful in #commits, and not colorful here?
10:30.25scanlinethis channel is +c
10:30.31gonkulatorah
10:30.45gonkulatorso thats why captain_proton oped himself
10:35.29CIA-2trunk/Hangman/pyHangman r1229 evan: Haven't committed this in a while.
10:36.06purple_cow,win 2
10:36.25darth_mallooh look! my commit ^^
10:36.36gonkulatordarth_mall: yay :)
10:36.57darth_mallkinda wish I'd made more progress since the last one, but oh well
10:40.53gonkulatorthen, I need to start a codebase that is open source
10:40.59darth_mallw00t!
10:41.18darth_mallI fixed it!
10:41.28darth_mall(so much for going to bed)
10:41.36gonkulatordarth_mall: heh, now commit it :)
10:41.50darth_mallgonkulator: this is a python library module thingy
10:42.05gonkulatoroh
10:42.12gonkulatorwell, if it works, commit it ;)
10:42.28darth_mallthe python module isn't part of pyHangman
10:43.18gonkulatorah
10:43.27CIA-2trunk/cia r1230 micah: Default to connecting to navi but allow a different server to be set on the command line
10:46.41CIA-2trunk/cia r1231 micah: Oops, fix the bit where it tries to locate the glade file.. it didn't get merged correctly
10:48.24darth_mallnight all
10:48.33gonkulatornight darth_mall
10:48.51scanlinehah, CIA is now the process on navi with the highest memory usage
10:49.10gonkulatoroh my
10:49.15gonkulatorscanline: quick, emerge X ;)
10:49.20gonkulatorerm...
10:49.21gonkulatornm
10:54.48purple_cowhm
10:54.53purple_cowkinda chilly outside
11:06.37gonkulatordamn... Iraq is crusing for a civil war
11:08.31purple_cowwhere do you see this?
11:09.06gonkulatorwell, there are shots being fired at pro-saddam rallies
11:09.18gonkulatornot in the air, but at people
11:09.31gonkulatornot much of a war, since US Troops will put it down
11:10.28gonkulatorif we had taken out the regieme and left, there would be a nasty civil war (like what happened in Yugoslavia)
11:11.21gonkulatoranyway, I should turn the TV off and focus more on my paper
11:12.50captain_protonso...
11:12.58captain_protonwhere are all the weapons again? :P
11:13.18gonkulatorheh, thats a *really* good question :)
11:13.41gonkulatorthough, the democratic primaries remind me of Reality TV shows
11:14.38gonkulatorexcept, everyone gets voted off at the end
11:15.31captain_protonyou see
11:15.39captain_protonwhen this whole farce began
11:15.56captain_protonthe big excuse for it was that iraq was an imminent threat to our nation
11:16.19gonkulatoryeah, we have definately (as a nation) lost the forrest for the trees
11:16.41captain_protonit seems highly improbable to me that there was really enough evidence to suggest that, given what we've found
11:16.57captain_protonmeaning our so-called president lied
11:16.59captain_protonnow i ask you
11:17.05gonkulatornight scanline
11:17.26captain_protonif we're willing to impeach a president for lying about something completely unrelated to his job
11:17.41captain_protonshould we not be willing to impeach a president for lying about something that ended up costing american lives?
11:17.55gonkulatorand does relate to his job
11:18.29gonkulatorbecause ultimately, Saddam being out is in our national interest
11:18.35captain_protonhowso?
11:18.39gonkulatoras it makes for multiple supplies of oil
11:18.46captain_protonpfft
11:18.54captain_protonthats in the interest of a handful of corporations
11:18.58captain_protonnot in the interest of the country
11:19.40gonkulatorhaving another US friendly nation in the area (Israel and Kuwait being the others) makes for a launching point agains Iran
11:19.56gonkulatorit also gives us greater control over the oil that goes to China (possible big threat)
11:20.17captain_protonchina hasn't been a big threat for a long time
11:20.21gonkulatoranyway, for the paranoid about such things, this makes things look better in the region
11:21.08captain_protonsome people are afraid of "communists", and even they don't have a leg to stand on anymore, so much
11:21.11gonkulatorand for someone who doesn't think that the US is going to have another large scale war, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense
11:21.21gonkulatoryeah
11:21.43gonkulatorit *was* the US oil embargo that triggered the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
11:23.06gonkulatorbut North Korea (who is doing bad things) borders on China, and the last time we went into North Korea, China came to their defense (which isn't to say that China would do it again, given proper diplomatic setup)
11:23.40captain_protonwell - the political arena was very different then
11:23.58captain_protoni think its very unlikely that anyone would come to N.Korea's aid at this point
11:24.02captain_protonbut of course we aren't going in
11:24.08captain_protonbecause they -have- a deterrent =/
11:24.16gonkulatorheh
11:24.22gonkulatortrue
11:26.13gonkulatorthough, I would bet that if Bush gets re-elected, by the time he is out of office, the US will have invaded (or at least bombed) N. Korea
11:27.56captain_protoni don't see that there's any way we can attack nk and get away with it
11:28.10captain_protonconsidering that they've got nuclear weapons and a leader who really isn't afraid to use them
11:28.39gonkulatoryeah, the question is where he would drop them
11:28.49gonkulatorI don't think he would hit the mainland US
11:29.13gonkulatorwhich makes for tactical use
11:29.54gonkulatorbut I really don't think he could pull off the strategic use of an atomic bomb
11:30.15gonkulatortactical usage still sucks tho...
11:30.43gonkulatorI'm just glad its not my decision to make
11:31.51captain_protonit is - its your responsibility to elect leaders who aren't power hungry =P
11:32.07gonkulatorwell, yes
11:32.52gonkulatorbut I don't think there is anyone in Washington who isn't power hungry
11:34.51captain_protonits a matter of degree, i think
11:35.08captain_protonhere's a question for you
11:35.26captain_protonconsidering the antics with the last election, if bush loses, do you think he'll give up gracefully? ;)
11:35.36gonkulatorlol
11:36.32gonkulators/such/such an/
11:52.46gonkulatornight captain_proton
11:52.56gonkulatorsweet dreams
13:21.21gonkulatorROFLMAO
13:21.47gonkulatorand after looking at like two things, engrish crashed safari
13:21.55gonkulatorthen, it crashed my philosophy paper!
13:27.04gonkulatoroh crap...
13:27.24gonkulatornow they crash on startup
13:30.03zakgonkulator: :(
13:36.14gonkulatorwell, that sucked
13:36.25gonkulatorit kernel panics on boot now
13:36.36gonkulatorzak: good luck on your final
13:36.46gonkulatorzak: if you see Kendra, tell her the same for me
13:36.57gonkulatorzak: and the first random person you see, wish them luck too ^^ :)
13:39.32filewell, school was cancelled again
13:39.40gonkulatorfun
13:42.41filewho knows!
13:42.54gonkulatorfile: well, you read what happened
13:42.59fileI did
13:43.35filecome on... be delivered
14:36.22gonkulatorfile: I don't think its gonna make it to you :(
14:38.07filewhy... WHY!
14:38.48gonkulatortoo much snow eh?
14:39.02carpmaneh?
14:39.11carpmanNot enough back bacon, eh?
14:39.21filewell some stuff is running
14:39.50gonkulatorcarpman: yup
14:40.40gonkulatorof my five machines, only 3 are in working order
14:40.55gonkulatorthe two that aren't in working order need some major work
14:41.11carpmangonkulator: sponge replacement?
14:41.16gonkulatorand of the other three, one has hardware issues that make it so I have to be careful with it
14:41.35gonkulatorcarpman: well, plasma needs a wipe/reinstall
14:41.52gonkulatornova will probably get a wipe/reinstall
14:42.09gonkulatorwhich leaves me with three working boxes
14:42.13gonkulatorgluon, ion and propellant
14:42.40gonkulatorgluon has some minor portage issues (shouldn't be hard to fix)
14:42.54gonkulatorion seems to be working perfectly (only machine that is)
14:43.09gonkulatorand propellant's screen has issues when I close it more than 50 degrees
14:43.13gonkulatorthats some bad karma :(
14:48.53gonkulatorcarpman: if you detonate him and my iBook blows up, I'll keel you
14:58.41filenew scan on my hardrive, happened 3 minutes ago
14:58.41file12/16/2003 10:53:00 AM DESTINATION SCAN DIEPPE, NB CA
15:02.59gonkulatorcarpman: http://ion.picogui.org/prayer.txt
15:06.24carpmangonkulator: hehe
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15:09.09gonkulatormorning sbahra :)
15:10.01gonkulatorsbahra: what country are you in again?  For some reason I am thinking its Saudi Arabia, but I am not sure
15:10.41carpmanit is Saudi Arabia. Teh whois says so. :)
15:11.56gonkulatorah, ok
15:13.44gonkulatorwhich is incoherent at the end
15:20.17fileit's on the truck being delivered
15:20.35gonkulatorunless the truck hits an ice patch
15:20.48gonkulatorand slides into a gas station and EXPLODES!
15:20.51filethere is many...
15:21.24gonkulatorugh... I spot a guy using windows, tell him I have no idea about windows
15:21.32gonkulatorand now he is trying to prove his geekness to me...
15:21.52gonkulatorME of all people
15:22.09sbahragonkulator: hey
15:22.28gonkulatorsbahra: not paying attenion again, are we... ;)
15:29.09gonkulatorI'll take that as a yes
15:29.15gonkulatorOR, you are extremely lagged
15:31.35gonkulatorlurgyman!!!!
15:32.06lurgymangonkulator!
15:32.35gonkulatorlurgyman: how was your zonkified time?
15:33.23lurgymanfluffy
15:33.27lurgyman:D
15:33.37filegonkulator: geekness? Windows? that's just wrong
15:33.41lurgymanhmm
15:33.42gonkulatorheh
15:33.43lurgymancold today
15:33.56gonkulatorfile: well, he was justifying that he was a geek, even though he used windows
15:34.04fileuh huh
15:34.10gonkulatorbecause he called it the systray, not whatever winXP calls it
15:34.23gonkulatornotification somethin-or-other
15:36.05lurgymannotification patch?
15:36.11lurgymannotification dump?
15:36.15lurgymannotification cesspool?
15:36.36gonkulatorI don't remember :)
15:36.38carpmannotification area-of-ill-repute.
15:36.38filenotification notifier of notifications
15:36.53gonkulatorhehehe
15:36.57gonkulatorI like carpman's :)
15:37.00carpmannotification banana.
15:37.08lurgymanscandalous!!!
15:37.23carpmanlurgyman: pineapple!
15:37.25gonkulatorlurgyman: yours are good too :)
15:37.49lurgyman:)
15:37.52gonkulatoroh crap...
15:37.52lurgymanooh, pineapple
15:37.56lurgymanyikes, shower time
15:37.58gonkulatormy iBoook is hozed, so I can't play DDR
15:38.05gonkulators/iBoook/iBook
15:38.11carpmanawww... no damnit damnit revolution
15:38.22gonkulatorcarpman: I need some exercise ;)
15:43.20gonkulatormeh, five pages is enough
15:44.04gonkulatorYAY for being done with the semester
15:45.18filebrand new Maxtor 160GB ATA133 7200RPM hardrive for $106.12 USD
15:46.08carpmanfile: brand new detonation for $0.00 CAD
15:46.22filecarpman: wow, what a bargain!
15:48.56gonkulatorcarpman: have you any idea how cool it is to be done with that semester
15:49.17carpmangonkulator: indeed, because I'm done with mine
15:49.20fileI have 3 days of school left until my 2-week vacation
15:49.50filethen I have a formal dinner in January
15:50.04filethen the world turns
15:53.25carpmangonkulator: we should go crash file's formal dinner
15:53.35gonkulatorcarpman: indeed :)
15:53.41carpmangonkulator: oh! We could dress as Jay and Silent Bob
15:53.42lurgymanyay
15:53.52gonkulatorcarpman: which one would I be?
15:54.09carpmangonkulator: Jay :)
15:54.56gonkulatoralright
15:55.06gonkulatorwell, time to do stuff or something
15:55.15gonkulatoryes
15:55.27gonkulatoractually... what I should do is reinstall OS X on plasma
15:55.35gonkulatorbecause that is more than a little bit trashed
15:57.41lurgymanmmm
15:57.46lurgymanwhat great morning music
15:57.51carpmanme is quite happy, he will be getting a newton 2000 for xmas
15:58.13lurgymanwill not!
15:59.28carpmanwill too!
15:59.33gonkulatoram so?
15:59.37carpmanis not!
15:59.44file42!
15:59.51gonkulatorno file, D2
15:59.56carpmansqrt(42)!
15:59.56fileD6?
16:00.01carpmanD1
16:00.05gonkulatorno no no
16:00.08fileD3.141592653
16:00.14gonkulatorsomeone was supposed to say "are to"
16:00.16gonkulatorthen I say D2
16:00.17carpmanfile: no, thats Dpi
16:01.43lurgyman6!
16:01.50carpman7
16:02.03lurgyman6!
16:02.06carpmanlurgyman: yay! Cool and hip!
16:02.47lurgymanheh
16:03.05gonkulatorbut first!
16:03.17gonkulatorI reinstall OS X and hope StepMania doesn't kill it
16:03.50carpmangonkulator: pyddr!
16:04.25gonkulatorlol, perfect
16:04.38fileI declare a cookie war!
16:04.51carpmanfile: I declare... detonation!
16:04.58gonkulatorfile: more like a cookie sacrafice!
16:05.04gonkulatorwow, it booted that time
16:05.04filesacrifice!
16:05.30lurgymanmmm
16:05.35lurgymanbabiy yar goodness
16:06.39carpmanfile: shoobedobaa
16:15.06lurgymanhmm
16:15.10lurgyman"But, regardless of what we each may feel, let'sfight a hopeless battle at the cost of loosing an ally."
16:15.24lurgymanbabylonia admins have such great ideas...
16:15.47fileUPS is blocking my tracking requests!
16:15.50fileI curse them!
16:17.29fileMr. Frodo!
16:18.52filelurgyman: luck good I you give
16:19.48carpmanfile: would you like an all expense paid trip to Mordor?
16:19.58gonkulatoryay for DDR being fun
16:22.38ChipX86ughh
16:22.51ChipX86out of all the nightmares I've had lately, that one was the latest
16:40.19filegreat, my ISP's nameservers are failing
16:45.11kergothmorning
16:48.29ChipX86morning
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16:52.41gonkulatorwho missed me!
16:52.53gonkulatornobody it seems
16:53.04kergothheh
16:53.09kergothyou were gone?
16:53.11ChipX86|SchoolI did! But I'm not here, so I don't count
16:53.15gonkulatoroh, ok
16:53.41gonkulatorhmm...
16:53.56ChipX86|Schoolat least you didn't have my nightmare from last night. *shudder*
16:54.04gonkulatorChipX86|School: I have yet to get a good rip of the panther isos
16:54.28gonkulatormebbe I should mail you disks, and say if Cae|Away wants them, you need to send them to her, and on down the line :)
16:54.44gonkulatoroh well
16:54.47gonkulatortime to go stand in the wet room
16:54.58gonkulatoryay for being sweaty and getting clean
16:56.40gonkulatorCae|Away: look at that link, it will give you a brief smile and make you all light headed and stuff
16:56.54gonkulatorput you in the right mood for taking the test :)
16:57.59Cae|Awayno
16:58.11ChipX86|SchoolCae|Away: I don't even remember taking my final yesterday
16:58.18ChipX86|SchoolI remember sitting down and then getting up and walking away
16:58.26ChipX86|Schooldevelop that skill and it won't become a problem shortly :)
16:58.34gonkulatorthats how I feel about the paper I wrote last night/this morning
16:58.43gonkulatorawl gawn
16:59.12gonkulatorChipX86|School: the sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar?
17:00.24ChipX86|Schoolnope
17:05.55gonkulatoralright
17:11.45kergothhrm
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17:47.42gonkulatorARGH
17:47.51gonkulatormy iBook is hosed again...
17:48.26sbahragonkulator: I finally have DSL now...just need to get a better filter (this one sucks) and I'm pretty much set :)
17:48.37gonkulatorsbahra: good deal and congrats :)
17:48.54sbahragonkulator: Thanks. This has been a 5-month adventure now...
17:49.02gonkulatorand my iBook is about ready to crash and burn something fierce
17:49.14sbahra:(
17:49.21gonkulatorwait...
17:49.23gonkulatorit might not
17:49.30carpman*boom*
17:49.31gonkulatorit kernel panics when I try to boot off the CD
17:49.42gonkulatorwait... there goes Safari
17:50.01gonkulatorcarpman: bless me, for my hardware has gone crufty
17:50.14gonkulatorit has been three days since my last wipe/reinstall
17:50.39gonkulatoroh, penguin of linux, I am heartily sorry for offending thee
17:51.10gonkulatorbbiab
18:07.36kergothbleh.
18:40.28kergothhmm
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20:09.02darth_mallmorning kids
20:09.42carpmanhi darth_mall
20:09.48darth_mallheya carpman
20:14.08kergothhey darth_mall, carpman
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20:17.57darth_mallmorning kergoth, how goes?
20:19.02kergothpretty good, you?
20:19.52sbahraHey all
20:19.56gonkulatorhi sbahra
20:19.59sbahraMy brother can be so dumb as times.
20:20.07sbahra"but the TV wasn't turning on"
20:20.18darth_mallkergoth: I'm pretty great, cuz school is over now for me
20:20.25gonkulatordarth_mall: me too now!
20:20.26darth_mallsbahra: not plugged in?
20:20.30darth_mallgonkulator: congrats
20:20.37gonkulatordarth_mall: congrats for you too
20:20.38kergothdarth_mall: ah nice
20:20.57darth_malland I might get to submit my first ever patch ^^
20:22.16sbahradarth_mall: Shrug. It works fine.
20:22.21sbahradarth_mall: but he did turn off the house's main power switch.
20:22.29sbahradarth_mall: Not fun, right when I was in the middle of something :\
20:22.36gonkulatorthe house has a power switch
20:22.43gonkulatorquick, turn the house on!
20:22.59sbahragonkulator: Every house does... :)
20:23.17sbahraWell, in another sense :P
20:23.29gonkulatorsbahra: we have a circut breaker, but thats different than a switch :)
20:23.45darth_mallsbahra: =\
20:23.48sbahragonkulator: Yes, I am referring to the circuit breaker.
20:23.59gonkulatorsbahra: ah, ok
20:24.00sbahragonkulator: There is a main switch (leading to the rest of the circuits).
20:24.23gonkulatorhouse even
20:24.25sbahrahehe
20:24.31gonkulatorand that would turn the house on and off :)
20:25.42gonkulatorok, be back after a whil;e
20:26.11darth_mall=P
20:26.27darth_malloh well
20:26.37sbahraSC? CS?
20:26.43fileI'm.... alive!
20:28.18filecarpman: my hardrive came :)
20:28.22file/dev/ad6c      72G   2.0K    66G     0%    /bigdrive
20:28.32carpmanooo
20:28.37filenow what to fill it with...
20:28.44carpmanirc logs
20:28.46carpmanjungle
20:28.48sbahrafile: :)
20:28.54filecat /dev/urandom > /bigdrive/fillerup
20:28.56file;)
20:29.14sbahraA lot of moving around :\
20:29.16gonkulatorad6c?
20:29.21filegonkulator: FreeBSD
20:29.25gonkulatorwhat the heck is /dev/ad6c
20:29.26carpmanthats the most wastful use of 66gb I've ever seen. Right next to sailor moon avis
20:29.27gonkulatoroh
20:29.43gonkulatorcarpman: eeeew
20:29.43filec = entire partition
20:29.48darth_mallcarpman: you no likey a bunch of lesbians saving the world?
20:29.49sbahrafile: What release?
20:29.54filesbahra: 5.1-RELEASE
20:30.13sbahrafile: and how many slices/partitions?
20:30.24darth_mallgonkulator!!
20:30.32sbahrafile: How come you don't give 5.2-RC* a go? It is relatively more stable than 5.1-RELEASE.
20:30.32carpmandarth_mall: I've seen men dress up as sailor scouts. While it removed any element of fear from my psyche, I cannot watch sailor moon ever again.
20:30.34gonkulatordarth_mall: what can I do you for?
20:30.43darth_mallwhatcha doin?
20:30.50filesbahra: because 5.1-RELEASE is stable for me :) never had a problem, and I don't like using non-release stuff
20:30.50gonkulatornot a whole lot
20:30.52darth_mallcarpman: hehe, that would about do it
20:30.56darth_mallgonkulator: wanna do something?
20:31.09filesbahra: there's just ad6c and ad6e... that's it
20:31.13gonkulatordarth_mall: sure, what do you want to do?
20:31.19sbahrafile: Fun :)
20:31.25darth_mallgonkulator: Shadow Conflict!!
20:31.35gonkulatordarth_mall: not a chance
20:31.53gonkulatorshadow conflict is dum
20:32.04fileShadow Conflict is ... is ... like toast
20:32.06darth_mallbut we love SC so good?
20:32.09darth_malls/?//
20:32.12carpmanhttp://www.advogato.org/person/diablod3/
20:32.13gonkulatorstarcraft I'll play :)
20:32.16carpmanhe updated
20:32.18darth_mall;)
20:32.18gonkulatorcarpman: NO
20:32.38carpmangonkulator: but but but... he says the new tree is progressing well!
20:32.38gonkulatordarth_mall: sooo... why do you call him the masternater?
20:32.39darth_mallgonkulator: masternater is coming too
20:32.46darth_mallgonkulator: I think Mike came up with that
20:32.50carpmanROFL
20:32.51gonkulatorits funny :)
20:32.52darth_mallcuz he's the DM in durango
20:33.00darth_mallit's on my webpage, under the quotes in roleplaying
20:33.03gonkulatorI'll have to reload starcraft onto my iBook
20:33.05carpmangonkulator and darth_mall: just read what he posted for Nov 25
20:33.23filegonkulator: how did that go?
20:33.26darth_mallgonkulator: how long will that take?
20:33.53filesbahra: what's the benefit of a 5.2-RC* kernel over 5.1-RELEASE?
20:34.04gonkulatordarth_mall: I just have to get my drive
20:34.10gonkulatordarth_mall: maybe 10 minutes if I start now
20:34.21darth_mallkk
20:35.26sbahrafile: Read the various 5.2 TODO revisions.
20:35.45filesbahra: oh don't give me that, I want it from a real person who has used it :p
20:36.24sbahrafile: but: A lot of PCM fixes, ATA fixes, see_other_gids ability, boot code changes, APIC changes.
20:36.33carpmansbahra: feel free to detonate file :)
20:37.07sbahrafile: Lots of changes, all of which do provide more stability than the crap and strictly noted, DP, known as 5.1-RELEASE :)
20:37.51sbahrafile: and Sam Leffler has also made a bit of changes into the network stack the last couple of days, the TODO does mention the fact that better grained locking is needed there...so expect more (but not all) from Sam.
20:38.08sbahrafile: It is trivial enough. I did an update from 4.7 to the 5.1-CURRENT, involves much more.
20:38.42sbahrafile: Just follow the instructons in /usr/src/UPDATING carefully (to rebuild everything and install into the current system).
20:39.03sbahrafile: You could skip the mergemaster step and use etcmerge if you wish (personally, I use none)
20:39.21gonkulatorcarpman: ok, that post is scary
20:39.29gonkulatorcarpman: I guess he doesn't know the purpose of CVS
20:41.06filesbahra: the thing is I have no clue where to start :)
20:41.21sbahrafile: Do you know how to use CVSup?
20:41.24carpmanhttp://www.advogato.org/proj/Goatse/
20:41.34filesbahra: never touched it, stayed far far away
20:42.06carpmanhttp://www.advogato.org/person/TheGiver/
20:42.08carpmanlol
20:43.02carpmangonkulator should gonkulate faster
20:43.11sbahrafile: Man
20:43.15sbahrafile: You are missing out on so much :)
20:43.26sbahrafile: http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/
20:43.30gonkulatorwhat?
20:43.40sbahrafile: Check on "Using CVSup". It is trivial to use, seriously.
20:43.40gonkulatordarth_mall: I can't go any faster
20:43.58sbahrafile: Don't forget /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
20:45.17gonkulatorok, time for starcraft!
20:45.18gonkulatoryay
20:45.38sbahrafile: *shudder*
20:46.09sbahrafile: cvsup/*-supfile that is. There are several examples in there, you will probably only need to change exactly one line.
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20:48.46sbahraMy god, DSL
20:49.11file?
20:49.39sbahrafile: After years of dial-up, this feels strange
20:49.43fileoh ic
20:49.53filesbahra: I'm feeling apprehension with doing this :)
20:50.21sbahrafile: It will be fun, it is trivial enough to learn, and...probably one of the most important and common habits you will soon get into :)
20:50.47fileI mean to upgrading to 5.2-RC1
20:52.49sbahrafile: It will be fun, it is trivial enough to learn, and...probably one of the most important and common habits you will soon get into :)
20:52.57fileLOL
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20:58.46*** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers: how smart they are and how many cool devices they own. || Tired of dealing with idiots? We offer quality DVD replication software clumsy || T minus 9 days! || never caviar. i do have oat bran, which is better for your heart
20:58.59carpmanuntil
20:59.00carpman?
20:59.09zakmy bday
20:59.09carpmansponge cake?
20:59.11carpmanahh
20:59.12filesbahra: alas, I don't think I will ;)
20:59.26sbahrafile: Why
20:59.38darth_malllurgyman!
21:00.03filesbahra: it seems so tedious... and I'd have to dig the machine out of it's spot again for console access
21:14.26sbahraNo.
21:14.31sbahraIt isn't tedious file.
21:14.53sbahrafile: A FreeBSD user who hasn't CVSupd and updated before is like a bird without wings.
21:15.30fileI don't like flying anyway
21:16.32sbahracarpman: :)
21:19.59filesbahra: approximately how long would it take?
21:20.32sbahrafile: What type of internet connection?
21:20.43filesbahra: 1.5Mbps down
21:21.30sbahrafile: Machine?
21:21.43filesbahra: Pentium Pro 200MHz, 128MB of RAM, 256MB swapfile
21:21.53sbahraOh, that's pretty low-end.
21:21.57fileyes
21:22.09sbahra2 hours probably (give or take half an hour)
21:22.40filewhat all is rebuilt?
21:22.40sbahraAll of the base system.
21:22.40sbahra* Check /usr/src
21:22.43fileinterwesting
21:22.50sbahrabinutils, gcc, all the shells, various user utilities, the kernel, etc...
21:23.02filethat's... interesting
21:24.10fileno thx... I think I'll stick to everyone
21:24.11fileer
21:24.14filewhat I have now
21:24.57sbahraAs said, give or take half an hour.
21:25.11sbahraAtleast update your ports collection file :)
21:25.40sbahraJust CVSup, will take a minute or less with your bandwidth...
21:26.03fileI don't have /usr/ports :)
21:26.06sbahraYou should atleast recompile your kernel as well, since GENERIC does include a lot of things you don't need
21:26.09sbahraAhhhh! :)
21:26.11fileI use precompiled
21:26.12sbahraUgly. Nasty.
21:26.24sbahraMan, that is probably one unsecure system.
21:26.26fileI use very few ports
21:26.37file'tis behind a firewall
21:26.42sbahrafile: Could you give me ls -lh /boot/kernel/kernel output?
21:27.06fileit's 5.2MB :)
21:27.14fileI haven't gotten around to going to a custom kernel yet
21:27.24sbahraHrm...ok
21:27.37sbahraMine is 2.8M
21:27.44sbahraTake into account this includes a lot of debugging symbols.
21:28.56sbahraand I'm off
21:28.57sbahra&
21:29.24filethere, I'm compiling a custom kernel - happy? ;)
21:35.56fileskimmed down to exactly the hardware abydos has...
22:10.11gonkulatormuch better :)
22:12.43gonkulatordamn... 5 meg for a kernel
22:12.45gonkulatorthats huge
22:12.52gonkulatorwb ChipX86
22:13.10ChipX86thanks
22:13.30gonkulatorare you going to play starcraft with us later tonight?
22:13.33ChipX86nope
22:13.34ChipX86studying
22:13.37darth_mallit's so cool
22:13.38ChipX86so I don't fail a 3rd
22:13.39ChipX86but I will
22:13.57ChipX86actually, I doubt I failed this one, but I did forget everything that I knew like the back of my hand only minutes previously
22:14.32ChipX86yeah... final tomorrow, then taking Rachael to see RotK Thursday, and then a paper is due friday
22:14.34sbahraHey ChipX86
22:14.35sbahragonkulator: :]
22:14.44gonkulatorsbahra: what up?
22:15.03ChipX86heys b
22:15.05ChipX86er, sbahra
22:15.05ChipX86:)
22:16.16sbahragonkulator: Nothing at the moment. Physics.
22:16.31gonkulatorsbahra: neat, I am doing some recreatioinal philosophy :)
22:16.42sbahrahehe
22:17.03gonkulatorI suppose I should re-install stepmania on my iBook
22:17.03CIA-2trunk/Hangman/pyHangman r1232 evan: wee
22:17.10darth_mallk
22:17.10gonkulatorhehehe, way to go darth_mall
22:17.13darth_malltime to head home
22:17.16gonkulatorlater darth_mall
22:17.16darth_malllater guys
22:17.21gonkulator~cpr darth_mall
22:17.23darth_mall: <smoochu> :-*
22:17.55filesbahra: I'm compiling my own custom kernel, are you happy... ARE YOU HAPPY?
22:18.07gonkulatorfile: the real question is, are you happy?
22:18.11sbahrafile: It depends just how much you slimmed it down. You could load almost everything as a module...
22:18.22filewe'll see
22:23.40sbahraWe better see.
22:24.06filewell I don't compile a kernel everyday, this is my second time!
22:24.13sbahraI WANT TO SEE RESULTS!
22:24.18fileRESULTS YOU SEE MAYBE!
22:24.19gonkulatorsbahra: lay off buddy
22:24.25sbahrafile: heheh
22:24.29gonkulatorfile: show him the damn kernel :)
22:24.35fileI can't, it's not compiled
22:24.45sbahragonkulator: Oh come on, please note the humor. This isn't serious in any way...
22:25.00gonkulatorsbahra: and you think I'm not joking because...
22:25.11gonkulator:)
22:25.13sbahragonkulator: Damn.
22:25.23sbahragonkulator: :]
22:25.27gonkulatorlol
22:25.43sbahraIt was the "buddy" I think
22:25.55gonkulatorah :)
22:32.40sbahraand I am off
22:32.44sbahrafile: Good luck :)
22:32.56filethx
22:33.07sbahraDare I do it, I will now...stay online WHILE I am asleep.
22:33.56gonkulatorhehehe
22:34.00gonkulatorsbahra: its good for you ;)
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22:38.55kergothugh
22:41.43filenew kernel size is 2.8MB
22:41.48captain_protonhmm, looks like someone on our network has a worm thingy
22:41.59filecaptain_proton: go... hunting?
22:42.24captain_proton10.0.0.36
22:42.45captain_proton00:02:8A:99:3A:44
22:43.00fileyou should have a list of everyone's ip
22:43.15captain_protonwe don't have static leases for everyone
22:43.22captain_protonthat IP is within the general dhcp range
22:43.22fileerm
22:53.46gonkulatormorning captain_proton
22:53.57scanlineooh neat... twistd rotates its logs by default
22:55.49zakmeep!
22:55.55captain_protonclient-hostname "Adana";
22:55.57captain_protonis that naomi?
22:56.51zakwhat is this about naomi?
22:57.25captain_protonwow, its amazing how much bandwidth that was sucking up
22:57.30captain_protonzak: is her computer named "adana" ?
22:57.40captain_proton(i'm guessing so)
22:57.43captain_protonin which case, she has a virus
22:57.55zaki don't think so
22:57.59zakbut she isn't here to ask
22:58.18captain_protonif you see her, could you ping her about it?
22:58.54captain_protoni've added a packet filter so its not hugely urgent, but its still good to keep everything clean
23:00.59captain_proton(http://www.mynetwatchman.com/LID.asp?IID=66038074)
23:01.11zakokie
23:01.41zakscp filename place:/blah?
23:02.11captain_protondepends on where you want to put it
23:02.15zaknaiv
23:02.20zakif i could type
23:02.33captain_protonah - then yes, but there's a better way now
23:02.50zakdo tell
23:03.11scanlinecaptain_proton: so... I walked upstairs to get my breakfast and was overcome with the sort of warm fuzzy feeling that implies 150 lbs of curry have arrived =)
23:03.32captain_protonzak: you can mount navi read-write and just mv the file into place
23:03.54zakoo! tastybite!
23:04.35gonkulatorcool :)
23:33.13purple_cowo pav bhaji, how i've missed you
23:59.22kergothfuck
23:59.27Cae|Away?
23:59.34kergothi forgot to call interquest to have them send out a tech to fix my internet again
23:59.38Cae|Awayick

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