| 00:01.07 | kergoth | hmmmmm pizza |
| 00:01.45 | kendra | scanline: if you can get it done this weekend by yourself (i know you _can_, just a question of if you want to work on a weekend), otherwise (if it extends into next week, please try your best to include rob |
| 00:01.57 | file | wow, abydos has been up for 19 days |
| 00:02.05 | scanline | kendra: sounds good |
| 00:02.19 | kendra | scanline: danke :-) |
| 00:02.31 | scanline | not that I want to work on a weekend, but getting it done in the next few days is probably less overall hassle than waiting for me |
| 00:02.31 | kendra | scanline: oh, and do please come to meetings :-P |
| 00:02.39 | scanline | and I really do need to get that PCB ASAP so I can test it thorougly |
| 00:02.42 | kendra | ok |
| 00:02.52 | scanline | heh, sorry... |
| 00:03.15 | kendra | scanline: da |
| 00:03.18 | scanline | kergoth: oh, something for the systems meetings- we do still need to decide how to mount the CD |
| 00:03.35 | scanline | I'm planning on designing it with multiple sets of connector holes, so we have a few methods to choose from |
| 00:03.40 | scanline | but we still have to pick one |
| 00:03.45 | scanline | er |
| 00:03.50 | scanline | s/kergoth/kendra/ |
| 00:03.53 | kendra | scanline: true- why can't we just attach it the way the old one was? |
| 00:03.55 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 00:04.04 | scanline | kendra: because GOD WILL HATE YOU if you do! |
| 00:04.25 | iris | scanline: better? (the name :-P) |
| 00:04.29 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:04.43 | scanline | but yeah.. the way the old CD was attached was disgustingly horribly nasty, and disgusting too |
| 00:04.46 | scanline | and very error prone |
| 00:04.54 | scanline | did I mention disgusting? |
| 00:04.56 | scanline | and nasty? |
| 00:04.56 | iris | scanline: i was under the impression that he didn't much care for me as was, so... |
| 00:04.58 | scanline | and horrible? |
| 00:05.08 | iris | lol, why?? |
| 00:05.10 | file | let's recap: it was disgusting, nasty, and horrible |
| 00:05.12 | scanline | wires! |
| 00:05.27 | iris | yes, lots of wires |
| 00:05.48 | scanline | Connecting a board to the outside world using hundreds of individual wires.. evil! |
| 00:05.56 | iris | generally an approved of way of getting electrons from one place to another (no, not literally) |
| 00:06.02 | scanline | no |
| 00:06.04 | gonkulator | connectors! |
| 00:06.11 | scanline | wires are evil and they will be completely banned from spacegrant |
| 00:06.14 | scanline | no wires |
| 00:06.30 | iris | what instead? |
| 00:06.34 | scanline | technically it's still possible to use wires with this PCB layout, but damn that would be ugly |
| 00:06.42 | scanline | well, there are a few different options I'm planning for |
| 00:06.43 | iris | aka, what kind of connectors? |
| 00:06.55 | scanline | the best one I can think of now is using PCB-mount D connectors and multiple SIP sockets |
| 00:07.12 | scanline | so you'd have these connectors with straight pins coming out of them- they'd stay bolted to the mounting plate |
| 00:07.14 | iris | and connect that directly to the plate? |
| 00:07.23 | scanline | then the PCB would have a socket that plugged into those pins |
| 00:07.37 | scanline | so you could very easily unplug and plug in the PCB |
| 00:07.57 | iris | without wera and tear on the pins?? |
| 00:08.11 | scanline | I'd like this method best, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to find PCB-mount D connectors with long enough pins, or SIP sockets that are secure enough |
| 00:08.26 | scanline | iris: negligable, and far less than soldering wires directly to a PCB |
| 00:08.38 | scanline | on the flight board it theoretically only gets plugged in once |
| 00:08.53 | iris | theoretically being the key phrase |
| 00:09.11 | scanline | but that's why we have multiple CDs.. one for flight, one for testing, at least |
| 00:09.17 | iris | i think the minimum is actually 3 times |
| 00:09.46 | scanline | still, more reliable than soldering and desoldering 100s of wires 3 times |
| 00:09.53 | iris | we would need to test the flight one, even if its identical, just to be sure |
| 00:09.59 | iris | true |
| 00:10.04 | scanline | that's why we have an automated tester for this board |
| 00:10.41 | iris | ok |
| 00:10.56 | scanline | so.. if the SIP socket method doesn't work, the next best thing would be to find some IDC connectors and ribbon cables that would fit our mounting constraints |
| 00:11.01 | iris | we'll talk about it at the systems meeting on weds |
| 00:11.05 | scanline | (same stuff that the prototype board is using) |
| 00:11.09 | scanline | mmkay |
| 00:11.18 | iris | right |
| 00:11.26 | iris | what exactly is a SIP socket? |
| 00:11.33 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 00:11.37 | scanline | single inline pins.. it's like a DIP socket, but half so |
| 00:11.39 | gonkulator | the TV guy is funny |
| 00:11.49 | iris | ah |
| 00:11.49 | gonkulator | ok, time to pack up |
| 00:11.53 | gonkulator | later everyone |
| 00:12.01 | iris | bye gonkulator |
| 00:12.01 | gonkulator | scanline: I'll be up in about 2-3 hours |
| 00:12.02 | gonkulator | later iris |
| 00:12.08 | scanline | each C&DH connector would need 2 SIP sockets, staggered a bit |
| 00:12.45 | iris | to accomodate the d connector, right? |
| 00:13.00 | scanline | iris: another option which I'd love but I don't think anyone else would is to redo the C&DH box so normal right-angle-mount connectors would work :) |
| 00:13.12 | iris | NO |
| 00:13.29 | file | well that's rather harsh |
| 00:13.29 | iris | no, sorry |
| 00:13.45 | scanline | because see.. even though in spacegrant it's the norm for people to stick connectors wherever they feel like then run a mess of wires to the board, in the real world people design the boxes so they can use PCB-mount connectors |
| 00:13.54 | scanline | :) |
| 00:14.14 | scanline | but I had a sneaking suspicion you wouldn't like that option |
| 00:14.14 | iris | we had enough trouble with the first redesign, thank you! besides which, we don't have a structures person currently |
| 00:14.43 | iris | yes, well, we all know spacegrant does many things the hard way ;-) |
| 00:14.52 | scanline | mmyep |
| 00:15.05 | scanline | oh.. did you want a PCB for the automated test setup? |
| 00:15.07 | iris | :-) |
| 00:15.15 | iris | mer? |
| 00:15.32 | iris | what about the automated test setup? |
| 00:16.21 | scanline | well, right now the automated test harness is spread across 2 breadboards, and even though I have instructions to reproduce it, I have a feeling that if someone tried to test the CD in the future with those instructions they'd get frustrated and drive off a cliff, or something |
| 00:16.21 | scanline | just curious if you wanted me to do a PCB for the automated test adaptor |
| 00:17.04 | iris | hopefully any testing in the future (of which there should be less than a year for CX) will be done by the person who won't dive off a cliff since he wrote the instructions |
| 00:17.37 | iris | how much more work and money would it be? |
| 00:17.48 | scanline | not much more work, but around $50 |
| 00:18.06 | scanline | it's not that important to me, but I figured I should ask |
| 00:18.08 | iris | the current cost being? |
| 00:18.26 | scanline | well, $33/board, plus shipping, plus some miscellaneous other parts... |
| 00:18.34 | darth_mall | captain_proton: it's all yours |
| 00:18.36 | scanline | we need at least 2 CD boards, preferably 3 or more |
| 00:18.37 | darth_mall | sorry 'bout that |
| 00:18.44 | captain_proton | darth_mall: thankye |
| 00:19.24 | iris | total cost being $100 and how much, gove or take? |
| 00:19.25 | scanline | iris: I should probably order all new parts for at least the flight CD, rather than using whatever we have around the lab :) |
| 00:19.55 | iris | good plan |
| 00:20.12 | scanline | then another $1500 or so for miscellaneous expenses... |
| 00:20.23 | iris | ok, well, i'll have to talk to Elaine, find out how much of a budget we don't have, and get back to you |
| 00:20.26 | scanline | like a new laptop :) |
| 00:20.32 | iris | lol |
| 00:20.39 | darth_mall | =D |
| 00:20.48 | file | scanline: good try |
| 00:20.52 | darth_mall | scanline: you weren't supposed to mention 'a new laptop' |
| 00:20.57 | iris | scanline: nice try :-P |
| 00:21.01 | scanline | iris: I'd say allocate $200 for it |
| 00:21.03 | darth_mall | just miscellaneous expenses ;) |
| 00:21.29 | scanline | three PCBs will run a little more than $100, and I'm just guessing but I think the other parts were around $50 |
| 00:21.50 | iris | scanline: ok |
| 00:21.56 | scanline | I do need to order at least the microcontrollers and analog mux chips, as we don't have the EPROM version of the CPU or the ESD-hardened version of the mux |
| 00:22.03 | iris | i'll requisition on Tuesday |
| 00:22.10 | scanline | k |
| 00:22.41 | iris | get my Acard when you order them- tax free and CU pays for it :-) |
| 00:23.03 | scanline | those rcpod boards are still technically mine ;) |
| 00:23.09 | captain_proton | ooh, iris has a cu acard? |
| 00:23.25 | iris | captain_proton: da |
| 00:23.36 | file | what's an acard? |
| 00:23.53 | iris | scanline: they are? do you want to get reimbursed for at least one of them? |
| 00:24.38 | scanline | iris: I'd prefer to get reimbursed for both of them, since they're both apparently needed at spacegrant.. I had talked to Bernadette about it, but she couldn't do anything without a paper copy of the invoice |
| 00:24.43 | iris | file: an acard is a nifty credit card that some student employees get in order to order stuff for their job |
| 00:24.50 | scanline | I didn't get a paper invoice, just an electronic invoice and a paper packing slip |
| 00:24.55 | file | iris: cool |
| 00:25.05 | scanline | she suggested getting them to fax me a real invoice, but I haven't gotten around to trying that yet |
| 00:25.22 | file | I just tell my boss, "yes I need this and this" and she returns with it in half an hour |
| 00:25.27 | iris | scanline: can you print the electronic invoice? |
| 00:25.38 | scanline | iris: if I had a printer ;) |
| 00:25.57 | file | scanline: doesn't somebody else in the apartments? |
| 00:25.59 | scanline | yeah, I guess that would turn it into a paper invoice... forgot to ask bernadette about that |
| 00:26.05 | iris | scanline: of all the gadgets you have, you don't have a printer?! |
| 00:26.09 | scanline | file: there are printers on campus |
| 00:26.15 | scanline | iris: nah, I hate printers |
| 00:26.26 | scanline | used to have a laptop with a built in printer though, that was cool |
| 00:26.29 | iris | scanline: darth_mall has one zak does too |
| 00:26.29 | scanline | slow printer though |
| 00:26.43 | iris | that is cool |
| 00:26.52 | scanline | iris: darth_mall's doesn't work at the moment, and either way I can just use one at work :P |
| 00:27.09 | iris | scanline: indeed |
| 00:27.19 | darth_mall | scanline: this could be considered good motivation to set it up though ;) |
| 00:27.28 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:27.29 | scanline | heh |
| 00:27.33 | scanline | riight |
| 00:27.45 | scanline | see ya iris |
| 00:27.47 | scanline | happy friday |
| 00:28.09 | iris | lol |
| 00:28.13 | darth_mall | now I want to watch ToS =\ |
| 00:28.18 | scanline | or frying up a stalk of wheat? |
| 00:28.30 | iris | "the greast hobbit of them all] |
| 00:28.36 | iris | err |
| 00:29.12 | darth_mall | you'd never guess that I'm listening to it now, would you? |
| 00:29.18 | file | who wants to bet my emerge gnome will be done tomorrow? |
| 00:29.21 | darth_mall | BOYT! |
| 00:29.27 | darth_mall | s/T!/!/ |
| 00:30.15 | scanline | grr, can't remember which album that's on |
| 00:30.57 | scanline | oh, flood |
| 00:31.44 | scanline | hang on.. tight |
| 00:31.51 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 00:31.53 | *** join/#tacobeam christop (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 00:32.15 | scanline | laodamas: to make the merry go round go faster, so that everyone needs to hold on tight just to keep from being thrown to the wolves |
| 00:32.28 | darth_mall | I think it's 'tighter' |
| 00:32.34 | scanline | ah |
| 00:32.41 | *** part/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 00:32.45 | scanline | look what I've done... |
| 00:32.57 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 00:33.10 | scanline | laodamas: tabloid footprints in your hair |
| 00:33.19 | laodamas | ??? |
| 00:33.31 | file | he's... singing? |
| 00:33.59 | darth_mall | scanline: http://tmbw.net/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/interbug/tmbw/wiki.pl?They_Might_Be_Giants_(The_Song)/Lyrics |
| 00:34.02 | darth_mall | if you care that much |
| 00:34.04 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:34.16 | scanline | =) |
| 00:36.21 | darth_mall | I use that site all the time |
| 00:36.31 | darth_mall | it's better than tmbg.org for tabs and stuff |
| 00:38.50 | darth_mall | heh, this version of O Tannenbaum is so cool |
| 00:45.25 | darth_mall | ooh yay! |
| 00:45.27 | darth_mall | it's lurgyman |
| 00:45.35 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:45.45 | darth_mall | this acpi how to has a gdesklet icon |
| 00:45.58 | lurgyman | :) |
| 00:46.00 | lurgyman | hiya darth_mall |
| 00:47.41 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~in_your_d@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 00:48.13 | lurgyman | yay, it's zak! |
| 00:48.48 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 00:48.55 | file | zaktastic! |
| 00:50.02 | gonkulator | hey laodamas |
| 00:50.33 | gonkulator | laodamas: I am going to stop by army surplus and get a trekpole |
| 00:51.07 | gonkulator | laodamas: is the ice axe necessary to summit Mt. Columbia? |
| 00:51.43 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 00:51.44 | gonkulator | ok |
| 00:52.29 | darth_mall | alright, Yomiko is all updated and stuff |
| 00:56.18 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1787 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix the metadata editor |
| 00:58.08 | lurgyman | yay fer updated |
| 00:58.17 | lurgyman | darth_mall: ever get the centrino stuff working |
| 00:59.05 | darth_mall | lurgyman: mostly |
| 00:59.39 | kergoth | gahhh |
| 01:03.14 | lurgyman | kergoth: don't do that, you'll make a mess |
| 01:03.27 | gonkulator | damnit |
| 01:03.29 | gonkulator | oh well |
| 01:03.33 | kergoth | lurgyman: oops |
| 01:03.45 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 01:04.01 | gonkulator | wb laodamas |
| 01:04.25 | gonkulator | laodamas: almost done packing... just have to buy a treking pole |
| 01:06.59 | laodamas | gonkulator: any old ski pole will do. |
| 01:07.20 | gonkulator | laodamas: do you have an extra then? |
| 01:07.40 | gonkulator | or is this a thing that one needs to get two of :) |
| 01:08.48 | gonkulator | darth_mall: my iPod died yesterday BTW |
| 01:09.25 | laodamas | gonkulator: You can survive just fine without them. |
| 01:09.43 | Xentac | kergoth: I'm here now |
| 01:09.51 | kergoth | Xentac: neuros. opinion? |
| 01:10.00 | Xentac | decent |
| 01:10.06 | gonkulator | laodamas: alright, I'll just walk behind you then :) |
| 01:10.26 | Xentac | software isn't ipod caliber, but they're improving |
| 01:10.44 | Xentac | they also are doing a lot of work with the community |
| 01:10.49 | gonkulator | laodamas: one last thing... do you have a cell phone, and is there cell phone reception there? |
| 01:11.23 | laodamas | gonkulator: there is likely no reception there. |
| 01:11.42 | gonkulator | ok |
| 01:12.27 | lurgyman | :( |
| 01:12.42 | darth_mall | zak: the plungers? |
| 01:12.45 | zak | yea |
| 01:12.57 | darth_mall | yeah, they're pretty crappy |
| 01:13.04 | darth_mall | erm... no pun intended |
| 01:13.08 | gonkulator | laodamas: alright, what is the longest we will be gone? |
| 01:13.22 | file | robotic cats fix all |
| 01:13.23 | laodamas | gonkulator: remember to eat a huge caro-filled meal tonight. |
| 01:13.29 | zak | lurgyman: got some duct tape or robotic cats? |
| 01:13.39 | lurgyman | nope |
| 01:13.43 | zak | damn |
| 01:13.56 | darth_mall | zak: though I feel obligated to point out, before you get too angry with roommates, that often the person who did the clogging doesn't notice because it appears to be fine until the toilet is flushed a second time |
| 01:13.59 | lurgyman | darth_mall: what thinks you of renting season 2 of J&W this evening? |
| 01:14.02 | laodamas | gonkulator: well we will be back in cell range tomorrow evening. |
| 01:14.13 | gonkulator | laodamas: I had pizza for lunch, and plan on eating some noodles here in a bit |
| 01:14.21 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 01:14.23 | lurgyman | darth_mall: good point |
| 01:14.25 | darth_mall | lurgyman: I think it's a superb idea |
| 01:14.30 | Xentac | sweet... my dvorty board is in... |
| 01:14.31 | lurgyman | yay! |
| 01:14.33 | darth_mall | lurgyman: which point? |
| 01:14.35 | gonkulator | laodamas: ok, I'm on my way up to boulder now |
| 01:14.47 | lurgyman | darth_mall: about possibly zak's roommates being unaware |
| 01:14.48 | gonkulator | so I'll see you at Micah's when you get there |
| 01:15.00 | darth_mall | ah, yes |
| 01:15.11 | darth_mall | well, I've had lots of experience with clogged toilets |
| 01:15.20 | lurgyman | zak: and you should join us at J&W unless you're up to something else |
| 01:15.21 | lurgyman | ah |
| 01:15.23 | lurgyman | true :) |
| 01:15.31 | darth_mall | zak: the other thing to note, is that toilets in basements tend to clog more easily than others |
| 01:15.34 | lurgyman | whenever we end up doing it |
| 01:17.11 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 01:17.13 | lurgyman | dinner...... |
| 01:17.22 | darth_mall | scanline: are you whistling? |
| 01:18.10 | scanline | am I? |
| 01:18.15 | scanline | I don't think I am... |
| 01:18.27 | scanline | though I might be |
| 01:18.29 | darth_mall | oh |
| 01:18.39 | darth_mall | I'd swear I heard someone whistling the song I'm listening to |
| 01:18.59 | scanline | :) |
| 01:22.15 | zak | FUCK |
| 01:22.22 | lurgyman | :( |
| 01:23.09 | zak | darth_mall: since you have so much experience...do you have any suggestions? |
| 01:24.15 | darth_mall | zak: is the portal of doom unlocked? |
| 01:24.22 | zak | should be |
| 01:26.16 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1788 /LibCIA/Web/Info.py: Add some database info to the 'server info' page |
| 01:28.23 | lurgyman | ooooooooh |
| 01:28.37 | lurgyman | the Monk premiere is on in an hour and a half :D |
| 01:42.45 | gonkulator | ok, the car is packed |
| 01:42.52 | gonkulator | darth_mall: see you in about an hour :) |
| 01:43.12 | gonkulator | lurgyman: you too |
| 01:43.14 | gonkulator | captain_proton: and you as well |
| 01:43.19 | gonkulator | scanline: and I couldn't forget you :) |
| 01:43.32 | lurgyman | darth_mall: and in about an hour and 15 minutes darth_mall and gonkulator and zak and anyone else who's down there all have to come watch Monk :) |
| 01:45.22 | darth_mall | lurgyman: we're gonna go to rent J&W tonight? |
| 01:45.28 | lurgyman | yep |
| 01:45.32 | darth_mall | w00t |
| 01:45.33 | lurgyman | just, after Monk ^^ |
| 01:45.40 | lurgyman | or we could even go now |
| 01:45.46 | lurgyman | and then just wait til later to watch it |
| 01:46.01 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 01:46.04 | darth_mall | well, not *now* now |
| 01:46.06 | darth_mall | but soon |
| 01:46.08 | darth_mall | like 15 mins |
| 01:46.12 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 01:46.31 | lurgyman | so long as we get back before gonkulator gets here and Monk starts |
| 01:46.59 | lurgyman | mmm, what a great sandwich |
| 01:47.16 | lurgyman | all gone now though :( |
| 01:47.27 | darth_mall | why is it necessary to be back before gonkulator gets here? |
| 01:47.37 | lurgyman | well |
| 01:47.43 | lurgyman | unless there's someone else down there to let him in :) |
| 01:48.03 | darth_mall | scanline are downstairs |
| 01:48.10 | scanline | really.. |
| 01:48.11 | lurgyman | cool |
| 01:48.12 | lurgyman | then |
| 01:48.18 | lurgyman | we just have to be back by 8 |
| 01:48.38 | darth_mall | it's a pretty long drive to the Video station and then McGuckins |
| 01:48.40 | darth_mall | they're all so far away |
| 01:48.58 | scanline | what are we going to those places for? |
| 01:50.31 | darth_mall | scanline: are you coming w/ me and lurgyman? |
| 01:50.31 | lurgyman | scanline: stay! |
| 01:50.39 | lurgyman | or no :) |
| 01:51.06 | darth_mall | scanline: lurgyman and I are going to rent some stuff and then I need to get a plunger |
| 01:51.15 | scanline | oh, right |
| 01:51.18 | darth_mall | it'll be a fun-filled adventure for all involved |
| 01:51.35 | darth_mall | and you can join us on this magical mystery tour of desire if you so please |
| 01:51.50 | scanline | that's alright |
| 01:51.50 | lurgyman | or even if you don't so please |
| 01:52.19 | darth_mall | lurgyman: shall we? |
| 01:52.34 | lurgyman | darth_mall: as soon as i finish my salad :) |
| 01:52.35 | darth_mall | ugh, cold coffee |
| 01:52.42 | darth_mall | lurgyman: eat faster!! |
| 02:00.03 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1789 /LibCIA/Web/Stats/Link.py: Generate absolute URLs in the stats browser. This is necessary for links used in the feeds, and doesn't hurt elsewhere. Need to find a cleaner way to implement this though. |
| 02:02.12 | scanline | Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads |
| 02:04.08 | scanline | Some |
| 02:04.09 | scanline | one |
| 02:04.09 | scanline | keeps |
| 02:04.12 | scanline | moving |
| 02:04.12 | scanline | my |
| 02:04.13 | scanline | chair |
| 02:11.56 | scanline | so I'm having a wonderful time but I'd rather be whistling in the dark |
| 02:11.58 | scanline | whistling in the dark |
| 02:12.01 | scanline | whistling in the dark |
| 02:15.31 | scanline | stereo on and cookin' bacon |
| 02:22.01 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1790 /LibCIA/Web/Doc.py: Tabloid footprints in your hair, tabloid fooprints everywhere. We can't be silent 'cause they might be giants, and what are we gonna do unless they are? |
| 02:28.39 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1791 /LibCIA/Web/Doc.py: Generate titles for directories without indices too |
| 02:34.07 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1792 / (LibCIA/Web/Template.py htdocs/style.css): Hyperlink the site name to the site's root |
| 02:34.15 | captain_proton | guh |
| 02:34.21 | captain_proton | that was a lot more of a workout than i wanted |
| 02:35.01 | merlin262 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.07 | captain_proton | lurgyman: you need to emerge mkvtoolnix |
| 02:39.11 | captain_proton | since nfs is being cranky |
| 02:44.05 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1793 10cia/ (19 files in 6 dirs): Merge cia-new-navigation branch |
| 02:45.29 | CIA-5 | 03micah 07cia-new-navigation * r1794 /: Done with this |
| 02:47.01 | captain_proton | yay, its like an entire package of pastrami on a sandwich |
| 02:47.36 | *** join/#tacobeam probe (~probe@c-24-9-223-229.client.comcast.net) |
| 02:48.25 | scanline | YAY! |
| 02:48.27 | scanline | hi probe! |
| 02:48.31 | probe | hail, scanline |
| 02:48.34 | scanline | you're in boulder, right? |
| 02:48.41 | probe | yay for happy Linux machine ^^ |
| 02:49.00 | probe | well, kind of... I *am* loggeed into Navi, so i'm sort of in Boulder, right? |
| 02:49.07 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:49.12 | scanline | good enough for now I guess |
| 02:49.35 | probe | yeah... I'm taking a class on shell-script programming for Linux later this semester ^^ |
| 02:49.50 | scanline | hmm, I took one of those last semester... |
| 02:49.51 | probe | the book came with a distribution of Redhat, so I said "What the hell..." |
| 02:50.14 | probe | The installer froze 3 times though... kinda scary |
| 02:50.26 | probe | ...but not as scary as what Gnome looks like |
| 02:50.48 | probe | say, where's all the music on Navi stored now? |
| 02:51.07 | ChipX86 | it's gone |
| 02:51.12 | ChipX86 | it was decided that music was a fad |
| 02:51.19 | probe | Anoooo! |
| 02:51.41 | probe | Just when I decided to *use* navi for a change, too... |
| 02:52.06 | captain_proton | yay |
| 02:52.08 | captain_proton | MEAT |
| 02:52.25 | probe | wakabanga |
| 02:52.40 | scanline | =) |
| 02:53.00 | scanline | http://yoshi.navi.cx/info <-- apparently the heisenberg uncertainty principle applies to MySQL tables too |
| 02:53.10 | probe | scanline: quite seriously though, where is the music? |
| 02:53.25 | scanline | probe: remember how the FLCL froze up and stuff? |
| 02:53.31 | scanline | probe: that was the RAID controller failing |
| 02:53.43 | probe | scanline: oh god... did navi have a format? |
| 02:53.46 | scanline | it was also one of the hard disks failing |
| 02:53.53 | scanline | well, the data is probably still fine |
| 02:54.00 | lurgy|eces | /me figures he'll head up for the Monk premiere in 5 mins or so |
| 02:54.02 | scanline | but we can't get to it until someone buys a new controller card |
| 02:54.16 | probe | oh... sorry to hear about that.. |
| 02:54.46 | probe | scanline: how does one force pwm to start up with xinit or startx instead of another window manager? |
| 02:55.40 | scanline | your .xsession and such |
| 02:55.44 | scanline | evan says hi |
| 02:55.55 | probe | Hi, Evan ^^ |
| 02:56.02 | file | probe: BAGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:56.06 | probe | scanline: thanks, I'll check it out ^^ |
| 02:56.12 | probe | file: good idea! |
| 02:56.28 | probe | I actually am in possession of bagels right now! |
| 02:56.36 | file | scary |
| 02:59.59 | lurgyman | scanline, captain_proton, darth_mall, gonkulator, zak: the Monk premiere's starting |
| 03:00.11 | probe | scanline: where can one find .Xsession? or better yet, how can one do a search for a file throughout the machine? sorrym it has been so long since I really used Linux |
| 03:01.28 | gonkulator | hey probe |
| 03:01.48 | gonkulator | scanline isn't here anymore because he is here |
| 03:02.32 | probe | gonkulator: how are you? |
| 03:02.38 | gonkulator | probe: fine fine |
| 03:02.54 | gonkulator | this semester is going to be my last of college :) |
| 03:02.56 | probe | ooh... maybe XF86-Config has something to do with my X problems... |
| 03:03.09 | probe | gonkulator: next year will be my last at high school ^^ |
| 03:03.17 | gonkulator | file: cool |
| 03:03.22 | gonkulator | doh |
| 03:03.25 | gonkulator | probe: cool :) |
| 03:03.30 | probe | heh... am I really so much like file? |
| 03:03.36 | gonkulator | no |
| 03:03.48 | darth_mall | probe: no, more like Kris |
| 03:04.00 | probe | yeah, that's what you guys keep saying.... |
| 03:04.20 | probe | I'm not sure whether that's good or not yet, however ^^; |
| 03:05.02 | probe | I'll be back in a second |
| 03:06.30 | darth_mall | mmm... Monk |
| 03:10.17 | darth_mall | what an awesome show |
| 03:14.32 | gonkulator | hi fi |
| 03:15.02 | darth_mall | kaboom! |
| 03:16.10 | scanline | slippers! |
| 03:16.17 | darth_mall | slippers of doom! |
| 03:16.58 | scanline | doomy perilous doom |
| 03:17.16 | file | taco flavored doom? |
| 03:18.12 | file | and so nautilus compiles... |
| 03:22.27 | darth_mall | what a neat show |
| 03:24.38 | gonkulator | what a comical show |
| 03:26.57 | file | do I dare ask... what show? |
| 03:27.17 | darth_mall | file: Monk |
| 03:28.34 | file | oh ic |
| 03:35.17 | gonkulator | poor Monk |
| 03:35.36 | kergoth | yo |
| 03:36.06 | gonkulator | kergoth: you watching too? |
| 03:36.41 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (~laodamas@acc-boulder-129-99.dmisinetworks.com) |
| 03:36.52 | gonkulator | hey laodamas |
| 03:36.59 | laodamas | hello |
| 03:37.04 | kergoth | naw, i'm at work |
| 03:37.09 | kergoth | doing zaurus kernel development |
| 03:37.17 | gonkulator | kergoth: oh, bummer |
| 03:37.21 | gonkulator | laodamas: you should be sleeping |
| 03:37.24 | kergoth | naw, interesting |
| 03:37.25 | gonkulator | :) |
| 03:37.27 | kergoth | i'll dl the monk episode later |
| 03:37.35 | gonkulator | hehehe, ok |
| 03:38.05 | laodamas | gonkulator: I woke up at noon, so sleep is a little challenging at the moment. |
| 03:38.15 | gonkulator | laodamas: ah, ok |
| 03:38.20 | gonkulator | well, I am at Micah's place |
| 03:38.25 | gonkulator | ready to go when ever |
| 03:39.18 | laodamas | I'll mosy on over shortly... |
| 03:39.39 | file | how rude, I almost inhaled my kiwi strawberry juice |
| 03:39.56 | gonkulator | ok, cool |
| 03:39.59 | gonkulator | we're watching mok |
| 03:40.02 | gonkulator | monk even |
| 03:40.37 | gonkulator | ah |
| 03:41.02 | file | gonkulator: have fun when you go out into this adventure |
| 03:41.11 | gonkulator | I'll pay you back for rentals of stuff |
| 03:41.20 | laodamas | Why? |
| 03:41.27 | gonkulator | stuff being treking polls :) |
| 03:41.31 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_mall (~evan@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 03:41.33 | gonkulator | I want them :) |
| 03:41.43 | laodamas | k |
| 03:41.45 | darth_mall | there we go |
| 03:41.47 | darth_mall | silly dircproxy |
| 04:11.54 | file | omg, my laptop is installing Mozilla |
| 04:12.02 | file | compiling rather |
| 04:21.33 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1795 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Stats/Metadata.py: Link metadata pages to their parent stats page, so breadcrumbs work |
| 04:35.48 | *** join/#tacobeam file[gentoo] (~jcolp@mctn1-8065.nb.aliant.net) |
| 04:35.53 | file[gentoo] | boo boo boo |
| 04:38.35 | gonkulator | hi file[gentoo] |
| 04:39.33 | file | yo yo |
| 04:45.27 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~Caelum@128.194.23.211) |
| 04:45.32 | captain_proton | hiya Cae |
| 04:45.43 | Cae | hiya |
| 04:49.57 | kergoth | hey Cae |
| 04:50.30 | Cae | hey |
| 04:52.55 | kergoth | how goes? |
| 04:53.27 | Cae | good. going to start the reinstall of gentoo on Pax in a little while |
| 04:55.11 | captain_proton | fun |
| 04:55.28 | Cae | how about you? |
| 05:00.15 | kergoth | good, fixing build issues in the oe metadata repository and doing zaurus kernel development |
| 05:00.25 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1796 10cia/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Hit the cache again in render(), so that even on long-lived pages like the root document we get a chance to update them when the file on disk changes |
| 05:01.03 | Cae | fun |
| 05:01.47 | Cae | hm |
| 05:01.56 | scanline | darth_mall: hmm.. you have Tranceport in your groups archive thingy? |
| 05:02.41 | Cae | I hate this lack of wireless in forms thing. it's stupid. |
| 05:02.46 | Cae | s/forms/dorms/ |
| 05:03.11 | scanline | heh, I think we have the same policy here |
| 05:03.17 | scanline | I ignored it quite well |
| 05:03.37 | gonkulator | see cae |
| 05:03.42 | gonkulator | you can be bad :) |
| 05:04.01 | lurgy|eces | ooh |
| 05:04.05 | lurgy|eces | heya Cae :) |
| 05:05.21 | Cae | hey |
| 05:05.45 | Cae | well, I may just..borrow..an unused address |
| 05:05.53 | gonkulator | yay! |
| 05:05.56 | gonkulator | we have corrupted her |
| 05:06.02 | lurgy|eces | hehe |
| 05:06.54 | Cae | like my old one |
| 05:07.04 | Cae | which..is perfectly excusable to have hard-coded. |
| 05:07.47 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1797 10cia/ (cia_server.tac doc/default.sidebar doc/index doc/welcome): Remove the mostly useless 'index' doc page and put the 'welcome' page there, remapping our site's root StaticJoiner to point to it |
| 05:07.58 | gonkulator | scanline: do you have the Tranceport now? |
| 05:08.01 | Cae | 'sides. it's only for the next couple of days |
| 05:08.09 | scanline | gonkulator: no.. did you see darth_mall respond? |
| 05:08.29 | gonkulator | scanline: I thought you went upstaris |
| 05:08.37 | gonkulator | tmovement even |
| 05:08.40 | scanline | wasn't me |
| 05:08.46 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 05:09.05 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 05:09.26 | scanline | well, I think this is working well enough to restart CIA onto the new code |
| 05:09.31 | Cae | I HATE iChat |
| 05:09.38 | scanline | I don't really want to try to do this upgrade the ninja wayu |
| 05:09.39 | scanline | er, way |
| 05:10.09 | lurgy|eces | yay for kitties |
| 05:10.29 | Cae | okay. what do I want to delete.. |
| 05:10.48 | gonkulator | wow |
| 05:10.49 | lurgy|eces | /lib/libc.so.*? |
| 05:11.00 | gonkulator | captain_proton has a really entertaining screensaver |
| 05:11.13 | Cae | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.36 | gonkulator | and /media |
| 05:11.50 | *** join/#tacobeam CIA-5 (~CIA@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 05:11.53 | Cae | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.11 | lurgy|eces | hehe |
| 05:12.33 | Cae | and the couple of those that are mount points will be unmounted |
| 05:13.22 | lurgy|eces | hehe |
| 05:13.24 | lurgy|eces | hmm |
| 05:13.54 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1798 10cia/doc/BUGS: Add the MIME type bug |
| 05:16.36 | gonkulator | thats a bug hole |
| 05:16.48 | gonkulator | and you know what the guy said in Starship Troopers |
| 05:17.00 | gonkulator | "If you find a bug hole, nuke it" |
| 05:17.23 | Cae | :P |
| 05:17.29 | Cae | be nice to the bugs |
| 05:17.37 | Cae | they're just attention-starved |
| 05:17.40 | gonkulator | you adn Elron McKenzie |
| 05:18.47 | Cae | there. |
| 05:18.56 | Cae | I think I have everything I need. |
| 05:20.29 | Cae | time to start. back on Aeris in a bit. |
| 06:08.13 | *** part/#tacobeam file[gentoo] (~jcolp@mctn1-8065.nb.aliant.net) |
| 06:11.09 | kergoth | grr. |
| 06:11.21 | gonkulator | kergoth: whats wrong? |
| 06:12.05 | kergoth | this damn kernel wont give me any serial messages |
| 06:16.51 | gonkulator | oh |
| 06:19.38 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:23.38 | ChipX86 | mmm.. it's nice to be able to type cvs commit in my gevolution dir |
| 06:27.27 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:33.37 | gonkulator | whoa, purple_cow is here |
| 06:34.21 | kergoth | hm |
| 07:06.42 | scanline | hmm, neat |
| 07:06.54 | scanline | looks like adium linked to CIA's stats page and RSS feed from their sourceforge page |
| 07:10.06 | darth_mall | scanline: are you gonna come watch J&W with us |
| 07:10.07 | darth_mall | ?? |
| 07:17.20 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 07:17.24 | ChipX86 | I thought aboiut doing that |
| 07:18.09 | zak | darth_mall: i don't suppose you'd come try to fix our toilet with your new plunger? |
| 07:18.53 | darth_mall | zak: well, we're just about to watch some J&W |
| 07:19.06 | darth_mall | but if you'd like you're welcome to use the new super plunger of love |
| 07:19.07 | zak | damn |
| 07:19.12 | darth_mall | just don't remove the cute orange sticker ^^ |
| 07:19.13 | zak | i think i will |
| 07:19.18 | zak | lol, k |
| 07:19.24 | darth_mall | otherwise I might forget there's no refund and no return |
| 07:24.17 | lurgy|eces | yay for j&w |
| 07:29.22 | lurgy|eces | doodeedoo |
| 07:34.55 | lurgy|eces | woohoo |
| 07:35.49 | lurgy|eces | peanuts..... |
| 07:35.50 | zak | yea!!!!! |
| 07:35.52 | zak | it flushes! |
| 07:35.53 | lurgy|eces | yay! |
| 07:36.49 | darth_mall | hehe, captain_proton is disassembling my laptop |
| 07:36.52 | darth_mall | erm.. old laptop |
| 07:37.28 | lurgy|eces | woowoowookablooie |
| 07:37.37 | lurgy|eces | zak: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:38.51 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:38.59 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.00 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.02 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.03 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.05 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.07 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.08 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.10 | lurgy|eces | A |
| 07:39.10 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.23 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.24 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.27 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.29 | lurgy|eces | darth_mall! |
| 07:39.32 | darth_mall | lurgy|eces! |
| 07:39.36 | lurgy|eces | zak: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:39.37 | lurgy|eces | zak: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:39.46 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 07:42.29 | lurgy|eces | zak: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:42.55 | darth_mall | "I said to myself, that's the bird, there she spouts" |
| 07:52.31 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~cae@128.194.23.112) |
| 07:53.00 | Cae | anyone use gentoo? wondering if the -march=pentium4 flag is still unstable |
| 07:58.52 | lurgy|eces | Cae: -march=pentium4 was only unstable if you use -O3 |
| 07:59.04 | lurgy|eces | which is kind of silly anyways |
| 07:59.17 | Cae | :P |
| 07:59.21 | lurgy|eces | so, no :) |
| 07:59.23 | Cae | I use -O3 |
| 08:00.00 | lurgy|eces | thing about -O3 ... is that it only makes things faster about half the time, in the meantime making binaries bigger |
| 08:00.38 | kergoth | heh, i cant believe it took the gentoo community as long as it did to realize O3 is foolish |
| 08:03.28 | lurgy|eces | heh |
| 08:03.48 | Cae | then personal recommendations? :) |
| 08:04.02 | Cae | since now is the time to change them |
| 08:04.24 | kergoth | crap, the dual opteron box i was building on just vanished off the net |
| 08:04.24 | kergoth | hmm |
| 08:04.41 | Cae | pentium 4 system |
| 08:04.48 | Cae | that I like debugging on |
| 08:04.58 | lurgy|eces | er |
| 08:06.49 | Cae | my old flags were -pipe -fforce-addr -fmove-all-movables -fno-rename-registers -O3 -march=pentium3 |
| 08:07.15 | Cae | obviously pipe stays, and changes to pentium4, and may as well go O2 |
| 08:08.15 | Cae | nod. checking.. |
| 08:11.14 | Cae | it's in the manpage, but it's a *huge* manpage |
| 08:11.33 | lurgy|eces | :) |
| 08:11.35 | kergoth | hm, i'm out of caffinated beverages |
| 08:13.30 | lurgy|eces | here we go |
| 08:13.58 | captain_proton | kergoth: didn't you quit caffeine? |
| 08:14.01 | lurgy|eces | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3.1/gcc/Optimize-Options.html |
| 08:14.15 | lurgy|eces | /me points Cae to that page |
| 08:14.19 | kergoth | captain_proton: yeah. that lasted a few weeks. |
| 08:14.22 | kergoth | captain_proton: :) |
| 08:14.41 | captain_proton | i'm amazed you went that long |
| 08:15.06 | ChipX86 | I go months between caffeinated beverages |
| 08:15.12 | ChipX86 | I'm a sucky geek :( |
| 08:15.25 | lurgy|eces | ChipX86: me to :) |
| 08:15.25 | Cae | nod. thanks |
| 08:15.46 | Cae | hum. so I did no-rename-registers to counteract rename-registers |
| 08:16.03 | lurgy|eces | ah |
| 08:16.32 | lurgy|eces | unfortunately, the -O2 vs -O3 stuff was just poking through a whole lot of benchmarking pages |
| 08:16.54 | lurgy|eces | it looks like -O3 is better for things with a lot of floating-point operations in them |
| 08:17.02 | lurgy|eces | whereas -O2 was better for other stuff |
| 08:17.23 | lurgy|eces | but most of the core libraries are mostly integer stuff, so i figured i'd go the -O2 route |
| 08:17.50 | Cae | hum |
| 08:17.57 | darth_mall | silly lurgy|eces, you're not in the ECES anymore |
| 08:18.01 | darth_mall | Cae!! |
| 08:18.04 | lurgy|eces | mwa ha ha |
| 08:18.07 | lurgy|eces | :) |
| 08:18.21 | Cae | :) |
| 08:18.36 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1799 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Info.py: Mountain Dew catches 87% more typos in TMBG quotes than the next leading soft drink brand |
| 08:18.50 | darth_mall | lol |
| 08:18.52 | Cae | -finline-functions is the only other option that O3 enables |
| 08:19.13 | ChipX86 | geeze, apartments in Boston are expensive |
| 08:19.22 | Cae | *smile* yeah |
| 08:19.51 | darth_mall | oooh Boston |
| 08:20.13 | lurgy|eces | boston? :) |
| 08:20.17 | darth_mall | ChipX86: can I ask a possibly stupid question of you, about gaim? |
| 08:20.22 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: sure |
| 08:20.28 | lurgy|eces | going to live with all the gnome folk? :) |
| 08:20.38 | ChipX86 | lurgy|eces: .. in time |
| 08:20.42 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I'm just wondering why it emerges all this qt and kde stuff when I install it, and if I can make it go away |
| 08:20.48 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: err? |
| 08:20.51 | lurgy|eces | Cae: it's filtered out of packages that really don't like it |
| 08:20.52 | lurgy|eces | like, X |
| 08:20.55 | lurgy|eces | and mozilla |
| 08:20.57 | Cae | mine doesn't... |
| 08:21.00 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: blame the packager |
| 08:21.01 | lurgy|eces | and oo.o |
| 08:21.04 | ChipX86 | we don't use any stuff like that |
| 08:21.06 | darth_mall | ChipX86: oki |
| 08:21.38 | lurgy|eces | Cae: it's just me feeling the need to be a bit overoptimizey :) |
| 08:21.48 | lurgy|eces | that's just a matter of personal reckless preference |
| 08:22.09 | Cae | my reckless preference is ~x86 |
| 08:22.13 | lurgy|eces | :) |
| 08:25.06 | lurgy|eces | /me alsoo doesn't debug his installed packages, so he doesn't worry about that end of things |
| 08:25.42 | Cae | do I want to add debug as a use flag? |
| 08:25.53 | Cae | being that I am psychotic |
| 08:25.57 | lurgy|eces | :) |
| 08:26.28 | lurgy|eces | what's that do? |
| 08:26.47 | lurgy|eces | (you could also add -g to your cflags ;)) |
| 08:27.28 | lurgy|eces | and make everything hyper debug happy :) |
| 08:27.34 | ChipX86 | mwahaa. Flattering picture of Miguel de Icaza on http://primates.ximian.com/~fejj/photos/amiximianornot/ |
| 08:28.04 | ChipX86 | I want to see photos of the new office |
| 08:28.28 | Cae | http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml |
| 08:29.15 | Cae | hum. debug happy = good |
| 08:32.31 | lurgy|eces | but debugging is good |
| 08:32.49 | lurgy|eces | w/o trusty testers like Cae, OSS would suck :) |
| 08:33.38 | *** join/#tacobeam darth_mall (~evan@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 08:34.38 | Cae | :P |
| 08:34.44 | Cae | hum |
| 08:35.07 | Cae | why is this telling me ~x86 is invalid.. |
| 08:35.20 | lurgy|eces | hmm |
| 08:35.21 | Cae | that's ungood. |
| 08:35.47 | darth_mall | captain_proton is eeeeeeeevil |
| 08:35.50 | lurgy|eces | it tells me that when there's something wrong with /usr/portage |
| 08:36.22 | Cae | I don't have anything in there |
| 08:36.33 | lurgy|eces | nothing? |
| 08:36.43 | Cae | nope |
| 08:36.58 | scanline | hmm, interesting |
| 08:36.58 | captain_proton | darth_mall: evil...LIKE A FOX! |
| 08:36.58 | lurgy|eces | isn't there usually supposed to be something there? |
| 08:37.01 | Cae | this is during install. wiped drive. |
| 08:37.12 | lurgy|eces | ah |
| 08:37.19 | lurgy|eces | well |
| 08:37.45 | captain_proton | hm, down to 47 hours for tsukikage-ran |
| 08:37.54 | lurgy|eces | in my experience, it stops complaining once it has a /usr/portage to work with |
| 08:38.34 | Cae | hrm |
| 08:38.41 | darth_mall | ohhh... lurgy is going to sleepy by |
| 08:38.55 | ChipX86 | best description of the new ximian office I can find: "The word on the street is likewise kind: I hear that the desks are made of gold and beer flows freely from the faucets. Also, the rumor goes, a giant squid named Burlask lurks the halls. But I know that one is a bold faced lie." |
| 08:39.00 | captain_proton | does that mean...nuku nuku? |
| 08:39.09 | darth_mall | captain_proton: I don't really wanna read subtitles just now |
| 08:39.21 | captain_proton | fine fine |
| 08:39.26 | captain_proton | lurgyman: leave llama on? :P |
| 08:39.52 | darth_mall | captain_proton: there's a good chance, cuz he wants the J&W ripped |
| 08:40.20 | captain_proton | well - i can't really rip remotely with the nfs being all crappity |
| 08:40.24 | scanline | yikes |
| 08:40.26 | scanline | http://navi.cx/webalizer/daily_usage_200401.png |
| 08:40.48 | captain_proton | egads |
| 08:41.26 | lurgyman | captain_proton: the nfs is fine so long as i don't reboot :) |
| 08:41.26 | lurgyman | at least, from my observations |
| 08:41.33 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i'm getting I/O errors trying to do just about anything |
| 08:41.57 | lurgyman | huh |
| 08:42.00 | lurgyman | well |
| 08:42.05 | lurgyman | rip it to somewhere else then :) |
| 08:42.06 | Cae | hm. beer.ux6.net is my rsync server's name. interesting. |
| 08:42.11 | lurgyman | heh |
| 08:42.14 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:42.27 | captain_proton | i may rip it incrementally to my machine and then transfer things to yours |
| 08:42.34 | lurgyman | that works |
| 08:42.47 | captain_proton | when are they due back? |
| 08:43.49 | lurgyman | tomorrow |
| 08:43.50 | lurgyman | but |
| 08:43.56 | lurgyman | well |
| 08:44.01 | lurgyman | only the first one, i suppose |
| 08:44.15 | lurgyman | we can watch the others later |
| 08:44.18 | lurgyman | er |
| 08:44.22 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 08:44.24 | lurgyman | we can rip the others later |
| 08:44.25 | captain_proton | speak english, boy |
| 08:45.01 | lurgyman | rip the 2nd episode tonight |
| 08:45.01 | Cae | why is compiling code mesmerizing to watch? it's obviously not the movement. I ignore syncs and such.. |
| 08:45.14 | Cae | I can give you stargate when stable |
| 08:45.17 | lurgyman | Cae: it's the twitchiness of the movement :) |
| 08:45.22 | lurgyman | yay, stargate |
| 08:45.24 | ChipX86 | Cae: I've wondered that myself |
| 08:45.29 | Cae | and other stuff |
| 08:45.47 | lurgyman | scanline: yikes, we really need to find somewhere else to host CIA ;) |
| 08:45.50 | Cae | whatever you want of the 250-some gb of series and movies |
| 08:46.04 | Cae | bed. pfft. |
| 08:46.20 | darth_mall | s/sleep/sleepy/ |
| 08:46.25 | captain_proton | i wonder if nidhoggr would be interested in providing hosting |
| 08:46.33 | Cae | lurgyman: that might be right actually..the start and stop.. |
| 08:46.37 | captain_proton | i find it impressive that we've done 1.7some gig so far |
| 08:46.40 | scanline | lurgyman: yeah.. I should put a message in #commits' topic and on the web site |
| 08:46.48 | scanline | most importantly a list of all the requirements CIA has |
| 08:46.54 | scanline | as it's kind of a beast |
| 08:47.09 | lurgyman | heh |
| 08:47.09 | lurgyman | yep |
| 08:47.31 | lurgyman | Cae: that's a good, more coherent way of putting it ;) |
| 08:47.33 | captain_proton | wow |
| 08:47.42 | captain_proton | 4 of the top requests by data transfer are jetstream videos |
| 08:47.55 | lurgyman | hhe |
| 08:48.01 | scanline | I wish I knew how those were getting linked to |
| 08:48.03 | lurgyman | we could just move all that to babylonia :) |
| 08:48.06 | scanline | kind of odd |
| 08:48.14 | lurgyman | force the district to take the bandwidth hit |
| 08:48.15 | captain_proton | lurgyman: hahaha |
| 08:48.28 | scanline | well, I don't think they get downloaded very often... |
| 08:48.29 | captain_proton | scanline: no referrer on them? |
| 08:48.38 | scanline | captain_proton: I don't think there was/ |
| 08:49.21 | scanline | most of them have no referrer |
| 08:49.26 | scanline | a couple form random google searches |
| 08:49.32 | scanline | s/form/from/ |
| 08:50.02 | captain_proton | it'd be nice to get a real measurement of the bandwidth that cia uses |
| 08:50.34 | scanline | I suppose I could set up apache to dump each vhost into a separate log file |
| 08:50.45 | captain_proton | scanline: that wouldn't help with mail |
| 08:50.49 | scanline | ah, true |
| 08:50.50 | ChipX86 | it's pretty easy to setup |
| 08:51.11 | scanline | although I do log all the mail, so we could measure its size increase over time |
| 08:51.32 | scanline | s/all/as much as I feel like before deleting the gigantic resulting file/ |
| 08:52.56 | scanline | looks like roughly 5.5MB/day of incoming mail for CIA |
| 08:53.07 | captain_proton | not bad |
| 08:56.01 | scanline | k, it's logging now |
| 08:56.07 | scanline | I'll set up a separate webalizer for it later |
| 08:56.27 | captain_proton | irc bot bandwidth is probably pretty damn high |
| 08:56.41 | scanline | eh... I kinda doubt that |
| 08:56.58 | captain_proton | hmm, i guess it has to be less than the email |
| 08:57.00 | scanline | the formatted messages are considerably smaller than the incoming emails |
| 08:57.00 | Cae | bleh. headache. |
| 08:57.09 | lurgyman | :( |
| 08:57.17 | scanline | though they do go out to multiple places |
| 08:58.02 | Cae | sync is on m. |
| 09:00.30 | captain_proton | ooooooooh |
| 09:00.33 | captain_proton | laodamas has a firesign dvd |
| 09:02.14 | Cae | heh |
| 09:02.28 | Cae | bleh. syncs didn't used to take this long.. |
| 09:03.25 | Cae | given, portage didn't used to be this big either |
| 09:03.25 | captain_proton | Cae: perhaps you should try another mirror? |
| 09:03.47 | Cae | it's going plenty fast. it just takes forever anyway. |
| 09:04.00 | captain_proton | ah |
| 09:04.04 | captain_proton | quite |
| 09:04.49 | Cae | hm |
| 09:05.07 | Cae | I should maybe eat at some point |
| 09:05.24 | Cae | I ate about..um..11 hours ago..interesting.. |
| 09:05.48 | lurgyman | darth_mall, scanline: i don't suppose you know off the top of your head how to make the Eterm menu bar gone by default |
| 09:05.57 | lurgyman | Cae: naw, it's a bad habit |
| 09:06.25 | Cae | lurgyman: I wish I knew how..that'd be nice.. |
| 09:06.37 | ChipX86 | lurgyman: I do |
| 09:06.41 | Cae | ChipX86: ahh..the joy of gaim users.. |
| 09:06.41 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 09:06.45 | lurgyman | ChipX86: do tell :) |
| 09:06.47 | ChipX86 | Cae: yeah really |
| 09:06.59 | darth_mall | lurgyman: yeah |
| 09:07.03 | darth_mall | --buttonbar-off |
| 09:07.07 | darth_mall | or something, one sec |
| 09:07.15 | lurgyman | ah, it's command-line |
| 09:07.16 | darth_mall | ah |
| 09:07.19 | darth_mall | --buttonbar off |
| 09:07.19 | ChipX86 | edit the theme.cfg, change buttonbar to 0 |
| 09:07.22 | darth_mall | that's how I do it |
| 09:07.27 | Cae | hm |
| 09:07.28 | lurgyman | that works too :) |
| 09:07.28 | ChipX86 | it's in start toggles |
| 09:07.30 | Cae | cool |
| 09:07.41 | Cae | I'll do that once I have eterms.. |
| 09:07.48 | Cae | which will be after I have X.. |
| 09:07.56 | Cae | which will be after I have iptables.. |
| 09:08.08 | lurgyman | thanks darth_mall, ChipX86 :) |
| 09:08.50 | captain_proton | you need iptables for X? |
| 09:09.01 | Cae | no, I need iptables for me |
| 09:09.10 | captain_proton | heh |
| 09:09.23 | Cae | and env-update is happy now, yay |
| 09:11.02 | lurgyman | yay for env-update doing it's thang |
| 09:11.10 | Cae | hehe |
| 09:11.51 | Cae | never tried aterm.. |
| 09:12.14 | captain_proton | i wish there were a fast tabbed terminal :P |
| 09:12.18 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:12.37 | Cae | yum. 800+ kb/s |
| 09:12.52 | captain_proton | i generally use gnome-terminal, but it gets damn slow sometimes |
| 09:13.34 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 09:13.35 | lurgyman | aterm |
| 09:14.33 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 09:14.37 | Cae | hum. what to do now. |
| 09:14.50 | lurgyman | x11-terms/multi-aterm: A terminal emulator... with tab support |
| 09:15.00 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i tried that |
| 09:15.10 | captain_proton | its incredibly incredibly alpha |
| 09:15.11 | lurgyman | not up to par? |
| 09:15.13 | lurgyman | oh |
| 09:15.13 | Cae | I have 27 desktops. I don't need tabs. :) |
| 09:15.15 | lurgyman | :( |
| 09:15.21 | captain_proton | meaning they haven't finished implementing vt102 |
| 09:15.26 | lurgyman | ew |
| 09:15.30 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/doc/we-need-hosting <-- anythign I missed? |
| 09:15.40 | captain_proton | and only half their little buttons work |
| 09:15.47 | lurgyman | eh, little buttons |
| 09:15.57 | lurgyman | at least, in terminals |
| 09:16.19 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 09:16.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:17.03 | lurgyman | ugh, it's a lot later than i thought it was |
| 09:17.13 | ChipX86 | what do you guys think is needed for the linux desktop? |
| 09:17.13 | lurgyman | it's so... clunky feeling now |
| 09:18.02 | captain_proton | scanline: looks good for now |
| 09:18.27 | Cae | lurgyman: that's why I use irssi |
| 09:18.33 | Cae | 'cept now, irssix |
| 09:18.35 | lurgyman | Cae: :) |
| 09:18.37 | ChipX86 | lurgyman: got any examples for integration? |
| 09:18.38 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 09:18.40 | lurgyman | irssix... |
| 09:18.43 | Cae | which is icky |
| 09:18.44 | lurgyman | ChipX86: that's the trick :) |
| 09:18.47 | Cae | (os x) |
| 09:19.18 | captain_proton | well - xchat makes their config doodads for doing things like turning off the menu bar too prevalent |
| 09:19.19 | lurgyman | ChipX86: it's always easier to say "more integration," and it always feels better when it's done right and it's there, but coming up with specific ways to do so are harder |
| 09:19.21 | Cae | I wonder if this headache is caffeine withdrawal |
| 09:19.30 | captain_proton | (i should not get that option in a context menu in the channel textboox) |
| 09:19.34 | ChipX86 | lurgyman: yeah.. |
| 09:19.40 | ChipX86 | I'll need to be creative |
| 09:19.58 | captain_proton | i think the biggest UI thing for me is for it to use real tabs, that can be moved around, instead of these crappy crappy buttons |
| 09:20.06 | Cae | yeah |
| 09:20.09 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:20.13 | ChipX86 | I wonder what the design decision was there.. |
| 09:20.17 | ChipX86 | or the reasons for it rather |
| 09:21.30 | captain_proton | does xchat support dnd dcc transfer? probably not |
| 09:21.35 | captain_proton | that's a good integration dealybob |
| 09:22.20 | Cae | eep |
| 09:22.21 | lurgyman | it's like a different developer did each menu item |
| 09:22.39 | Cae | irssix is annoying. use irssi unless you have to run on os x. |
| 09:23.19 | lurgyman | oh |
| 09:23.25 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:23.26 | captain_proton | lurgyman: the context menu bothers me the most |
| 09:23.28 | lurgyman | no such package anyways |
| 09:23.32 | Cae | irssi sooo much happier |
| 09:23.34 | lurgyman | captain_proton: that too |
| 09:23.37 | lurgyman | just... all the menus |
| 09:23.39 | lurgyman | and the buttons |
| 09:23.47 | captain_proton | its got all the menus from the menu bar |
| 09:24.03 | captain_proton | plus a bunch of settings that should be hidden away in a dialog where they only have to be seen once |
| 09:24.12 | lurgyman | indeed |
| 09:24.24 | Cae | ow.. |
| 09:24.36 | lurgyman | and lots more settings that should be hidden away on the context menu for users |
| 09:24.45 | lurgyman | ow? |
| 09:25.04 | Cae | things snapped in my neck that shouldn't make snapping feelings |
| 09:25.34 | Cae | given, some muscles in my back shouldn't imitate rocks either.. |
| 09:25.35 | ChipX86 | my neck does that |
| 09:25.36 | Cae | but ow.. |
| 09:25.41 | ChipX86 | yeah :/ |
| 09:25.42 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1800 10cia/doc/ (default.sidebar we-need-hosting): Add a plea for CIA hosting, with a list of CIA's needs |
| 09:25.44 | lurgyman | Cae: :( |
| 09:25.54 | captain_proton | lurgyman: huh? |
| 09:26.03 | Cae | ChipX86: I wish |
| 09:26.12 | lurgyman | captain_proton: er |
| 09:26.17 | captain_proton | granted, the context menus for users should be smarter |
| 09:26.22 | kergoth | heh. i crack my neck fairly regularly to relieve tension |
| 09:26.27 | ChipX86 | same |
| 09:26.31 | Cae | yes. |
| 09:26.35 | ChipX86 | I need to get a massage from Raedelle Tuesday |
| 09:26.36 | kergoth | my wrists too. people look at me funny when i crack both wrists simultaniously |
| 09:26.36 | captain_proton | (such as not displaying kick if you're not mode+o/oper/etc) |
| 09:26.38 | lurgyman | captain_proton: well, just look at the Kick/Ban submenu |
| 09:26.39 | Cae | but have this pinching feeling from it |
| 09:26.51 | Cae | neck, wrists, and ankles here |
| 09:26.52 | lurgyman | captain_proton: there's no way there should be separate menu items for all that crud |
| 09:27.03 | captain_proton | mostly knees and ankles for me |
| 09:27.06 | Cae | but neck isn't fully cracked, so it's uncomfortable |
| 09:27.30 | kergoth | neck, wrists, knuckles, thumbs, neck, and back here |
| 09:27.34 | lurgyman | captain_proton: those options should all be configgied in a submenu |
| 09:27.42 | Cae | heeh |
| 09:27.55 | captain_proton | lurgyman: wanna write a gnome frontend to xchat? :P |
| 09:27.55 | kergoth | and shoulders and collarbone on occasion |
| 09:27.56 | kergoth | varies |
| 09:27.57 | Cae | ankles crack whether I wish them to or not |
| 09:27.59 | lurgyman | captain_proton: hehe |
| 09:28.04 | kergoth | Cae: mine too, i hate that |
| 09:28.06 | Cae | ah, yes, shoulders |
| 09:28.08 | lurgyman | captain_proton: i might be up for that |
| 09:28.12 | kergoth | try to walk quietly through the house.. crack.. |
| 09:28.25 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 09:28.30 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1801 10cia/: Clean up the svn:ignore list and add mail.log.* |
| 09:28.40 | captain_proton | speaking of gnome bounties |
| 09:28.50 | lurgyman | captain_proton: we could call it, ginasic |
| 09:28.54 | kergoth | that was a strange movie |
| 09:28.57 | kergoth | "dead awake" |
| 09:29.10 | Cae | watching pride and prejudice |
| 09:29.16 | Cae | mostly cause it's five hours long |
| 09:29.25 | lurgyman | rathe |
| 09:29.26 | lurgyman | er |
| 09:29.28 | lurgyman | rather |
| 09:29.29 | ChipX86 | looking at the expensive price of plane tickets. Ack. |
| 09:29.32 | lurgyman | ginaric |
| 09:29.45 | lurgyman | short for, "ginasic is not a ridiculous IRC client" |
| 09:29.49 | kergoth | i'm trying to lay out my plan for the OZ bk repositories and changeset flow |
| 09:29.50 | kergoth | bleh |
| 09:30.11 | Cae | lurgyman: heh |
| 09:30.30 | lurgyman | or we could just call it gnome-irc and make it seem more gnomey |
| 09:30.46 | lurgyman | yikes |
| 09:30.49 | captain_proton | or just call it xchat |
| 09:30.50 | ChipX86 | there's gnome-chat |
| 09:30.51 | lurgyman | five hours long |
| 09:30.52 | ChipX86 | I think that's an IRC client |
| 09:30.54 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:30.56 | lurgyman | captain_proton: never! |
| 09:31.00 | captain_proton | since xchat already has the concept of frontends |
| 09:31.10 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 09:31.12 | lurgyman | gnome-chat |
| 09:31.14 | captain_proton | and 1.8 had a sortof-kindof-working gnome frontend |
| 09:31.17 | Cae | lurgyman: it's pretty much the book put to movie form |
| 09:31.22 | lurgyman | wow |
| 09:31.28 | lurgyman | i guess that makes sense then |
| 09:31.38 | lurgyman | captain_proton: yeah, but then we'd have to call it xchat-gnome or something |
| 09:31.49 | lurgyman | to follow xchat-text |
| 09:31.50 | lurgyman | :p |
| 09:31.50 | kergoth | hmm |
| 09:33.20 | captain_proton | lurgyman: or gnome-xchat |
| 09:33.24 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:33.29 | captain_proton | or somesuch |
| 09:33.30 | lurgyman | yeah, prolley |
| 09:33.42 | lurgyman | everything should be a recursive acronym |
| 09:33.49 | lurgyman | like |
| 09:33.49 | lurgyman | ginara |
| 09:33.57 | lurgyman | (ginara is not a recursive acronym) |
| 09:34.06 | captain_proton | but it is |
| 09:34.08 | lurgyman | and they're even better if they describe what they aren't |
| 09:34.15 | lurgyman | and better yet if they lie |
| 09:34.30 | captain_proton | and i'm kind of extremely fed up with recursive acronyms |
| 09:34.38 | lurgyman | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 09:34.49 | captain_proton | they're not nearly as clever as names like yacc |
| 09:34.59 | lurgyman | are too |
| 09:35.19 | captain_proton | (which was then corrupted by all the clowns who wrote other ya... software) |
| 09:35.27 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:35.47 | lurgyman | though, nothing's quite so clever as acronyms like malcatroppo |
| 09:36.06 | Cae | I should eat..hm. what though.. |
| 09:36.17 | Cae | it's 3:30..so..stuff that's already here |
| 09:36.26 | ChipX86 | Gaim's An Instant Messenger? :) |
| 09:36.31 | lurgyman | hehehe |
| 09:36.33 | lurgyman | :) |
| 09:36.41 | captain_proton | or cacavaptarath? |
| 09:36.59 | Cae | ChipX86: hehe |
| 09:37.20 | Cae | hm. pretzels |
| 09:37.22 | lurgyman | making acronyms stand for something is so romantic-period, and making them stand for things clever is so GPL post-romantic |
| 09:37.23 | ChipX86 | mmm |
| 09:37.28 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1802 10cia/doc/we-need-hosting: Reformat a bit |
| 09:39.01 | lurgyman | hmm, green goldfish |
| 09:39.07 | captain_proton | i still think BADMAX was one of the best acronyms we came up with |
| 09:39.29 | lurgyman | :) |
| 09:39.34 | Cae | green goldfish? |
| 09:39.59 | captain_proton | i can't remember what that one was supposed to stand for |
| 09:40.12 | lurgyman | Cae: have you seen the colored goldfish at grocery stores? |
| 09:40.16 | lurgyman | they have green ones now |
| 09:40.24 | Cae | :( |
| 09:40.30 | Cae | I like the cheddar-colored ones |
| 09:40.40 | lurgyman | they were unfortunately out of those :( |
| 09:40.43 | Cae | that's the natural color for goldfish! |
| 09:40.50 | lurgyman | indeedy :) |
| 09:40.54 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 09:40.55 | Cae | it's like green ketchup |
| 09:41.02 | captain_proton | apparently ogg files don't contain valid mp3 headers |
| 09:41.06 | captain_proton | or frames |
| 09:41.08 | captain_proton | or anything |
| 09:41.14 | scanline | gee |
| 09:41.44 | captain_proton | mpg123 got mighty cranky |
| 09:41.50 | captain_proton | or rather |
| 09:41.51 | captain_proton | i got rather cranky |
| 09:41.53 | captain_proton | after hearing it |
| 09:42.00 | scanline | ah, might help if I told apache to use a decent log format |
| 09:42.11 | lurgyman | captain_proton: coalition against violent animated poor-taste something something... |
| 09:42.26 | ChipX86 | ughhh |
| 09:42.46 | captain_proton | i thought there was something about animalized presidents in there |
| 09:43.02 | lurgyman | ah, right |
| 09:43.05 | lurgyman | with the frog |
| 09:43.40 | captain_proton | coalition against violent animalized presidents ... hmmm |
| 09:43.45 | captain_proton | lurgyman: no, it all got deleted :( |
| 09:43.51 | CIA-5 | 03micah * r1803 10cia/doc/we-need-hosting: grammar |
| 09:44.37 | captain_proton | hehe - i set this up so the local ripping will work, and i won't even have to change filenames in the .rips :) |
| 09:44.48 | lurgyman | :) |
| 09:45.04 | lurgyman | captain_proton: lincoln frog itself? |
| 09:45.06 | kergoth | hrm |
| 09:45.16 | captain_proton | lurgyman: oh, dunno about that |
| 09:45.23 | captain_proton | i wanna know what the tarath was, though |
| 09:46.13 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:46.18 | lurgyman | yay |
| 09:46.45 | lurgyman | damn |
| 09:46.53 | lurgyman | links to the movies themselves are broken though |
| 09:47.07 | captain_proton | :) :) :) |
| 09:47.12 | lurgyman | hah, no they aren't |
| 09:47.18 | lurgyman | just, 2001: gbo isn't up yet |
| 09:47.54 | scanline | hehe, parking disorders |
| 09:48.35 | captain_proton | scanline: have you seen 2001: gbo? |
| 09:49.02 | scanline | dunno |
| 09:49.07 | lurgyman | there |
| 09:49.09 | scanline | I know I've seen the phantom chicken |
| 09:50.22 | lurgyman | the css and php are still broken now, but at least there's a 2001: gbo preview again |
| 09:50.25 | captain_proton | phantom chicken is great :) |
| 09:51.07 | lurgyman | yike |
| 09:51.08 | lurgyman | s |
| 09:51.10 | captain_proton | lurgyman: i just get a "redirecting to lurgyman.bab..." and it stops |
| 09:51.20 | lurgyman | http://lurgyman.babylonia.flatirons.org/cinema/2001/2001.swf |
| 09:51.38 | captain_proton | ah |
| 09:51.41 | ChipX86 | I need someone on an IM service to do something for me |
| 09:51.44 | ChipX86 | any volunteers? |
| 09:51.49 | Cae | this is iChat |
| 09:51.54 | Cae | I'm not sure it counts |
| 09:51.57 | ChipX86 | that's almost an IM service |
| 09:52.01 | ChipX86 | we can pretend |
| 09:52.06 | ChipX86 | which account? |
| 09:52.11 | Cae | caeignis |
| 09:52.22 | ChipX86 | ok, can you set away? |
| 09:52.27 | Cae | yeah |
| 09:52.38 | lurgyman | http://lurgyman.babylonia.flatirons.org/cinema/phantom-chicken/phantom-chicken.swf |
| 09:52.47 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 09:52.48 | ChipX86 | now set back |
| 09:52.54 | lurgyman | http://lurgyman.babylonia.flatirons.org/cinema/star-trek/star-trek.swf |
| 09:53.08 | ChipX86 | that's a fast update between apps |
| 09:53.09 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 09:53.09 | scanline | heh.. galeon wanted to open it in totem |
| 09:53.11 | ChipX86 | now sign off |
| 09:53.15 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 09:53.21 | captain_proton | lurgyman: it is quite scary |
| 09:53.26 | ChipX86 | woo |
| 09:53.27 | ChipX86 | sign back on |
| 09:53.46 | ChipX86 | that's instantaneous |
| 09:53.48 | ChipX86 | thanks Cae :) |
| 09:53.52 | Cae | np |
| 09:53.56 | ChipX86 | now I just have to handle signing off local accounts and having it update the buddies on that list |
| 09:53.58 | lurgyman | yay! |
| 09:54.15 | Cae | galago? |
| 09:54.20 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:54.27 | Cae | I am sooo not conscious |
| 09:54.29 | scanline | spiffy |
| 09:54.37 | Cae | I wanna test it. gimme. |
| 09:54.47 | ChipX86 | I'm told by people who were at linux.conf.au that jdub's description made galago sound cool |
| 09:54.47 | Cae | um. when I have a system again. |
| 09:54.51 | ChipX86 | well, DanielS said I'm insane, but.. |
| 09:55.00 | ChipX86 | Cae: let me know when :) |
| 09:55.08 | lurgyman | Cae: have you seen star trek: episode 10? |
| 09:55.16 | Cae | nope |
| 09:55.26 | lurgyman | have a flash player for your os x thingy? |
| 09:55.27 | captain_proton | hehehehehe |
| 09:55.32 | Cae | mebbe |
| 09:55.39 | lurgyman | uh oh :) |
| 09:56.15 | ChipX86 | gnome needs a web comic viewer |
| 09:56.22 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 09:56.37 | scanline | is there a special format for web comics? I thought that was covered by RSS |
| 09:57.21 | lurgyman | Cae: the sound is important though, wait if you have to |
| 09:57.32 | ChipX86 | no, it'd have to somehow get the images from the various sites. I don't think there's any format |
| 09:58.10 | scanline | well, I know I saw an example somewhere of how you would use RSS for comics, but I've never seen a comic that actually supports RSS |
| 09:58.10 | captain_proton | hehe, star trek: the next generation ... is also great |
| 09:58.18 | captain_proton | science officer pointe e. hehd |
| 09:58.28 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:58.30 | Cae | I need to wait |
| 09:58.35 | scanline | best thing to do IMHO would be to write an app to grab comics and provide an RSS feed you could use with your favorite reader |
| 09:58.36 | lurgyman | :) |
| 09:58.41 | ChipX86 | mm yeah |
| 09:58.44 | ChipX86 | that is a good idea |
| 09:58.57 | scanline | might already exist even |
| 09:59.16 | scanline | aha |
| 09:59.24 | Cae | you'll need to give me links later |
| 09:59.29 | scanline | it's more netscape-flash-happy than galeon |
| 09:59.45 | lurgyman | heh |
| 09:59.50 | scanline | haha, I love this |
| 10:00.02 | captain_proton | phantom chicken is indeed good |
| 10:00.06 | captain_proton | especially the phasers |
| 10:00.12 | scanline | yep |
| 10:00.13 | scanline | and the title |
| 10:00.18 | scanline | and the music |
| 10:00.25 | scanline | nooo.. it ended or something |
| 10:00.47 | lurgyman | heh |
| 10:01.44 | lurgyman | wow, this is soooo out of sync the 2nd time 'round |
| 10:02.15 | lurgyman | and there's a big red box that i don't know why it's there |
| 10:02.58 | captain_proton | scanline: watch gbo! |
| 10:03.06 | scanline | it's loading |
| 10:03.11 | ChipX86 | hmm, getting the filename for a comic is not always easy |
| 10:03.21 | ChipX86 | like dilbert, for example.. |
| 10:04.39 | scanline | yay |
| 10:04.44 | scanline | aww.. it's so short |
| 10:04.50 | scanline | lurgy needs to enlengthenify these |
| 10:04.50 | lurgyman | :( yep |
| 10:04.55 | lurgyman | yeah... |
| 10:05.01 | scanline | and not in the way that that other flash thing was enlengthenified |
| 10:05.20 | lurgyman | heh |
| 10:05.20 | captain_proton | heh |
| 10:05.20 | scanline | =) |
| 10:05.34 | lurgyman | scanline: you mean, by adding honking noises and a spinning ship crashing into a planet? |
| 10:05.41 | captain_proton | lurgyman: but remember? he didn't even do that |
| 10:05.48 | lurgyman | captain_proton: yep :) |
| 10:05.55 | scanline | that thing that went really slowly.. no idea what it was called |
| 10:06.07 | lurgyman | probably |
| 10:06.15 | lurgyman | "Star Trek: The Next Generation After the Other One" |
| 10:06.18 | captain_proton | scanline: oh, that comic-type-thingy? |
| 10:06.22 | scanline | yeah |
| 10:06.30 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 10:07.08 | ChipX86 | I need new good music |
| 10:07.10 | scanline | ti-83 movie? |
| 10:07.28 | lurgyman | yep |
| 10:07.31 | lurgyman | it was 15 minutes long |
| 10:07.38 | lurgyman | and used up all the RAM on the damn thing |
| 10:08.00 | ChipX86 | TI-BASIC is fun, except for the lack of real functions or if statement short-circuitting (which really sucks) |
| 10:08.41 | lurgyman | heh |
| 10:09.13 | lurgyman | ah, yes |
| 10:09.18 | lurgyman | the rewritten bounce program |
| 10:09.28 | captain_proton | scanline: i remember doing julia sets on my 85 - similar time frames :) |
| 10:09.35 | lurgyman | and a bpm detector thingy |
| 10:09.50 | scanline | what really sucked was the dithering |
| 10:10.35 | scanline | black and white plasma fractals suck, so I think I divided the screen into 4x4 pixel blocks and rendered the plasma fractal to those, using a bunch of pre-drawn dithering patterns |
| 10:10.48 | scanline | so it was a really low-res plasma |
| 10:10.52 | scanline | but cool for a calculator |
| 10:11.05 | lurgyman | :) |
| 10:13.12 | captain_proton | scanline: :) |
| 10:13.37 | lurgyman | and now... sleep |
| 10:13.38 | lurgyman | night all |
| 10:13.50 | Cae | g'night |
| 10:13.52 | Cae | sleep well |
| 10:13.57 | ChipX86 | g'night lurgyman |
| 10:14.21 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 10:14.50 | scanline | g'night |
| 10:14.51 | ChipX86 | dilbert comic scooper <-- bad keywords to put into google |
| 10:15.03 | ChipX86 | young nude boys is one of many entries you get |
| 10:15.11 | Cae | um |
| 10:15.21 | ChipX86 | I really don't know why, nor do I intend to find out |
| 10:16.33 | ChipX86 | Cae: can you go offline again? |
| 10:17.47 | scanline | "Give me my hat back, you blasted theoretical space-time model! I *need* that +3!" |
| 10:18.34 | Cae | sure |
| 10:18.46 | ChipX86 | ok, now go back online |
| 10:18.50 | ChipX86 | and tell me when you're online |
| 10:18.57 | Cae | back |
| 10:19.11 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 10:19.29 | ChipX86 | sucks that I have to manually iterate all buddies on sign-off and send presence |
| 10:19.31 | Cae | hehe |
| 10:19.44 | ChipX86 | but this is working surprisingly well |
| 10:20.13 | ChipX86 | wonder if galago plays a roll in what I'll be doing |
| 10:20.28 | scanline | ChipX86: is this the next bounty? |
| 10:20.39 | ChipX86 | scanline: it will be now, but I was doing this before even considering that bounty |
| 10:20.47 | scanline | neat |
| 10:21.06 | ChipX86 | in my solution, feeds and the galago-daemon (galagod) pushes presence info |
| 10:21.18 | ChipX86 | in everyone else's solution, they call gaim-remote and poll once a second or so |
| 10:21.24 | scanline | "They who have been my eternal foes for almost a week!" |
| 10:21.58 | scanline | what's galago's scope exactly? |
| 10:22.30 | ChipX86 | it's designed to do desktop-wide presence stuff, so some programs (gaim, x-chat, etc) can use a very simple API to update presence |
| 10:22.37 | ChipX86 | then other programs can use a simple API to receive presence |
| 10:22.42 | ChipX86 | and there are widgets to even hide all of that |
| 10:22.51 | ChipX86 | it was also going to do dashboard-style association, but Nat doesn't think it should |
| 10:23.31 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 10:23.43 | captain_proton | scanline: you should read the dashboard blog stuff - its quite interesting |
| 10:23.47 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:23.54 | ChipX86 | better than any explanation I can give |
| 10:24.11 | scanline | yikes, lots of packages to update |
| 10:24.25 | captain_proton | scanline: http://www.nat.org/dashboard/ |
| 10:25.34 | scanline | ah, cool |
| 10:26.02 | captain_proton | scanline: worth taking a glace at the screenshot right away :) |
| 10:26.16 | scanline | indeed |
| 10:26.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:26.30 | scanline | looks like the stuff they always have computers doing in sci-fi movies |
| 10:26.32 | ChipX86 | so galago was going to do that too, but in a more generic way |
| 10:26.43 | ChipX86 | still might someday, but I don't want to push it |
| 10:27.23 | captain_proton | well |
| 10:27.35 | captain_proton | it seems like DBUS gives you a nice messaging system to use |
| 10:27.40 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:27.45 | ChipX86 | it's really nice |
| 10:27.49 | captain_proton | so it doesn't necessarily have to be part of galago to still exist |
| 10:28.00 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 10:28.42 | captain_proton | (and coexist peacefully) |
| 10:28.44 | scanline | hey looky, a doodad on kerneltrap about vmware with 2.6 |
| 10:28.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:29.22 | ChipX86 | maybe Nat'll have me work on something related to that anyway |
| 10:29.34 | ChipX86 | it's a neat field |
| 10:30.24 | captain_proton | very neat field |
| 10:30.28 | captain_proton | microsoft took serious notice of dashboard :) |
| 10:30.29 | scanline | igh... 1 of 137 |
| 10:30.35 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 10:41.44 | ChipX86 | when did it become 2:40? |
| 10:42.24 | captain_proton | about 3 minutes ago, i think |
| 10:42.44 | ChipX86 | hmm, yes |
| 10:42.52 | ChipX86 | still, I thought it was 12 or so |
| 10:47.03 | Cae | hehe |
| 10:47.06 | Cae | sleep well |
| 10:47.10 | scanline | thanks |
| 10:47.14 | scanline | you too, when/if you do |
| 10:47.18 | Cae | if |
| 10:47.24 | Cae | :) |
| 10:47.52 | ChipX86 | I've only been up 12 hours :/ |
| 10:47.57 | ChipX86 | g'night scanline |
| 10:52.03 | Cae | I've been up..hmm..15? |
| 11:19.51 | Cae | time for a nap |
| 11:19.58 | ChipX86 | g'night Cae |
| 11:20.04 | ChipX86 | I think I'll sleep too |
| 11:20.23 | Cae|Sleep | g'night ChipX86|Sleep |
| 11:20.47 | captain_proton | 'night |
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| 14:11.58 | zak | anyone in the apartments awake? |
| 14:20.36 | zak | damn. |
| 14:21.13 | zak | if anyone wakes up, and is someone with a car, will you please call my cell, and consider coming to get me at firestone? otherwise i might be there the majority of the day |
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| 16:41.23 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:44.06 | kergoth | crap, bkbits.net is down |
| 16:47.47 | *** join/#tacobeam file[gentoo] (~jcolp@mctn1-8065.nb.aliant.net) |
| 16:47.51 | file[gentoo] | yellow, yellow, yellow |
| 16:48.00 | kergoth | morning file[gentoo] |
| 16:48.20 | file[gentoo] | hey kergoth, what's up? |
| 16:48.40 | kergoth | not much, trying to wake up |
| 16:48.43 | kergoth | you? |
| 16:48.56 | file[gentoo] | just woke up, haven't even gotten out of bed |
| 17:08.48 | lalo | have a restful weekend everyone |
| 17:10.38 | merlin262 | I swear, gentoo is fundamentally a b0rken distribution |
| 17:14.18 | file[gentoo] | merlin262: really... really? really... |
| 17:36.03 | file[gentoo] | hi hardwire |
| 17:36.08 | hardwire | hi |
| 18:02.32 | file | emerge 92 of 119... so close |
| 18:05.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:53.23 | lurgyman | yay for Eterm, when i don't have to look at any widgets it draws |
| 18:56.37 | lurgyman | ugh |
| 18:57.37 | lurgyman | there's got to be a better way for gentoo to manage portage than for them to force every user to keep a copy of the whole tree on their machine |
| 18:59.21 | file | I was pondering that |
| 18:59.49 | file | why not have a central server that emerge contacts to get the ebuild? |
| 18:59.53 | lurgyman | it just keeps getting bigger, and will continue doing so for the forseeable future |
| 19:00.11 | file | "Hello server I want to emerge mplayer, tell me where I can get the ebuild" |
| 19:00.16 | file | "Okay client, here's where you can get it" |
| 19:01.05 | lurgyman | yeah, something to that end |
| 19:02.04 | lurgyman | the current "i know let's force all our users to have a giant 255M (and growing) tree on their system" is getting kind of annoying |
| 19:03.12 | lurgyman | cuz... there's just toooooooo many ebuilds now |
| 19:05.04 | *** join/#tacobeam file[2] (~file@mctn1-3162.nb.aliant.net) |
| 19:05.24 | file[2] | my ISP is evil |
| 19:05.38 | file[2] | they're forcing me to reset my ADSL modem AND router in order to re-establish a connection now... |
| 19:06.15 | file[2] | I've verified it's not a router problem too... |
| 19:26.47 | zak | lurgyman! |
| 19:27.08 | file | zak: did you get home successfully? |
| 19:27.24 | zak | file: don't ask question you know the answer too |
| 19:27.39 | file | I'll take that as a yes |
| 19:31.21 | lurgyman | zak! |
| 19:32.21 | zak | hiya |
| 19:32.25 | lurgyman | what's up? |
| 19:32.37 | zak | lurgyman: you up for tag type devices later? |
| 19:32.44 | lurgyman | sure |
| 19:33.23 | file | lurgyman: ::points to topic:: was it magical? |
| 19:33.33 | lurgyman | erm |
| 19:33.33 | lurgyman | sure |
| 19:48.45 | darth_mall | mornin' kids |
| 19:49.22 | file | hi darth_mall |
| 19:50.11 | lurgyman | hiya coach |
| 19:52.33 | zak | hiya darth_mall |
| 19:53.11 | darth_mall | yup |
| 19:53.55 | darth_mall | clicker? |
| 19:54.17 | lurgyman | yep |
| 19:54.18 | lurgyman | a clicker |
| 20:00.39 | lurgyman | oh no! |
| 20:04.13 | darth_mall | lurgyman: did you watch that second J&W yet? |
| 20:04.22 | lurgyman | nope |
| 20:04.26 | darth_mall | lurgyman: want to? |
| 20:04.30 | darth_mall | we didn't last night |
| 20:04.33 | lurgyman | ah |
| 20:04.34 | lurgyman | ok |
| 20:04.48 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 20:05.28 | lurgyman | or... |
| 20:05.32 | lurgyman | i could just take the CD with me... |
| 20:05.37 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 20:17.25 | *** join/#tacobeam probe (~probe@c-24-9-223-229.client.comcast.net) |
| 20:17.44 | darth_mall | I wish I understood cricket |
| 20:17.47 | darth_mall | hey probe |
| 20:18.14 | probe | anyway, I've got a question |
| 20:18.15 | darth_mall | probe: did you hear I got a new laptop? |
| 20:18.24 | probe | darth_mall: spiffy! what are the specs? |
| 20:19.03 | probe | ...agpgart.o: init_module: no such device |
| 20:19.16 | probe | that is one of the first irritating messages I get when starting up X |
| 20:19.55 | darth_mall | probe: so X won't start? |
| 20:20.00 | probe | I am trying to get to load my mga drivers for my Matrox AGP card, but it gives me a bunch of garbage... X loads up and everything, but DRI is disabled, and I'm stuck with a not-so-nice resolution |
| 20:21.11 | probe | bah... now is not the time for eating ^^l; |
| 20:21.19 | file | it's a magic bagel, it fixes problems |
| 20:21.20 | probe | file: thanks for the thought, though |
| 20:21.56 | probe | file: well, give the bagel to darth_mall. Anytime I try to fix a problem (regardless of any knowledge I might have which pertains to it) I end up breaking stuff anyway ^^; |
| 20:22.16 | probe | darth_mall: any ideas as to what's going on? |
| 20:23.11 | darth_mall | probe: I'm not sure |
| 20:24.04 | probe | okay, take your time ^^ |
| 20:28.35 | darth_mall | morning Cae|Sleep |
| 20:28.47 | Cae|Sleep | heh |
| 20:29.23 | Cae|Sleep | well, I've been napping on and off for about..hmm..8-9 hours..so I guess I'll be conscious |
| 20:30.00 | darth_mall | Cae|Sleep: that's the same conclusion I reached about an hour ago ^^ |
| 20:30.23 | Cae|Sleep | gentoo stage one goes faster if you sleep only when it compiles stuff :) |
| 20:32.20 | darth_mall | hehe, "nephew crusher" |
| 20:33.47 | probe | darth_mall: also, my other question: where are drivers located, generally? Isn't it in the kernel directory? |
| 20:35.08 | captain_proton | yayayayay |
| 20:35.11 | captain_proton | YAYAYAYAYAYAY |
| 20:35.44 | captain_proton | this aussie guy i know finally picked up the little birdy album |
| 20:36.26 | captain_proton | which means i should have it soon |
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| 20:37.44 | Cae | cool |
| 20:42.31 | Cae | hum. what kernel do I feel like using. |
| 20:42.44 | Cae | in the several hours when this finishes compiling. |
| 20:51.44 | Cae | yay, almost half done |
| 20:52.08 | captain_proton | Cae: 2.6.1 ? :) |
| 20:53.43 | Cae | nod, but do I want to ignore emerge and get straight from kernel.org, or use emerge and grab one of the versions from there. which has a bunch. |
| 20:55.18 | Cae | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml like those :) |
| 20:59.10 | Cae | vanilla-sources is kernel.org sources, so may as well stick with portage. |
| 21:00.21 | Cae | I don't need gs- or gentoo-test- |
| 21:02.05 | Cae | heh |
| 21:02.11 | Cae | I run everything else unstable |
| 21:02.22 | Cae | if my kernel were unstable, I think Pax would implode |
| 21:04.06 | file | emerge 101 of 119... so close |
| 21:04.10 | Cae | hum. gentoo-, vanilla-, selinux-, hardened-, xfs- |
| 21:04.30 | Cae | 47 of 64 here |
| 21:05.41 | file | it's emerging ghostscript right now... |
| 21:06.47 | Cae | tar here |
| 21:11.38 | Cae | and gentoo-dev- |
| 21:12.56 | Cae | gentoo-sources looks like it's still 2.4 series |
| 21:13.49 | Cae | same grsec, hardened |
| 21:16.22 | Cae | same most everything but gentoo-dev-.. |
| 21:17.55 | Cae | hm. development-sources is 2.6? |
| 21:23.23 | Cae | pfft. hello, development-sources. |
| 21:24.20 | Cae | that's neatly misnamed |
| 21:25.06 | file | :) yup |
| 21:25.42 | Cae | what're they going to do for the next branch? unstable-sources? |
| 21:25.53 | file | dunno |
| 21:26.11 | file | tada, ghostscript is done |
| 21:28.14 | Cae | ah, and now for the joyous make menuconfig ;) |
| 21:28.23 | file | Cae: not gonna use genkernel? |
| 21:28.33 | file | it's oh so painless |
| 21:31.13 | Cae | I like doing it by hand |
| 21:31.19 | Cae | I don't know why |
| 21:31.30 | file | ic |
| 21:38.11 | Cae | heh. "this is mainly used for kernel developers and desperate users" |
| 21:38.36 | file | what? |
| 21:39.17 | Cae | forced kernel module unloading |
| 21:39.27 | Cae | morning ChipX86 |
| 21:39.37 | file | ahhhh |
| 21:41.56 | darth_mall | anyone ever set up acpi before? |
| 21:45.53 | darth_mall | I think that's the one about the pyramids |
| 21:48.52 | file | what's with the coffee cups darth_mall?!?!? |
| 21:50.34 | darth_mall | file: ? |
| 21:52.27 | file | good answer |
| 22:05.52 | ChipX86 | morning Cae |
| 22:06.04 | ChipX86 | my sister just took a little party thingie and staked me, and said I was a vampire |
| 22:06.05 | file | ChipX86: how was your sleep? |
| 22:06.11 | ChipX86 | semi-okay |
| 22:12.54 | file | Now everything can be shipped with the reliability of Fedex! |
| 22:20.09 | captain_proton | *ahem* |
| 22:22.41 | zak | lol |
| 22:23.24 | zak | file: go outside and do something. you are obviously in need of entertainment. |
| 22:23.31 | captain_proton | wow |
| 22:23.35 | captain_proton | my throat feels hairy |
| 22:23.37 | file | zak: it's VERY cold out |
| 22:23.46 | zak | so i heard |
| 22:23.54 | zak | captain_proton: ? |
| 22:24.08 | zak | file: find something to do other than be bored on irc |
| 22:24.16 | ChipX86 | file: go fishing |
| 22:24.45 | captain_proton | right in the back |
| 22:25.09 | captain_proton | lurgyman: point is 777, point2 is 775 |
| 22:25.09 | captain_proton | and i'm not in the games group |
| 22:25.45 | zak | captain_proton: games group? |
| 22:26.13 | captain_proton | games group! |
| 22:27.01 | captain_proton | zak: if you wanted to do gentoo on your tower, this weekend would be a decent time to do so |
| 22:27.12 | file | mmm... Gentoo |
| 22:27.45 | zak | ok. would it be easier if i just bring it over? i also woudl like a dual boot on my laptop. |
| 22:28.21 | captain_proton | bringing it over would require someplace to put it |
| 22:28.49 | file | captain_proton: don't you have a blackhole? those are good for storing stuff. |
| 22:29.29 | zak | this is a fact |
| 22:29.55 | zak | alright. |
| 22:30.06 | zak | so what then? i reboot and .. |
| 22:30.23 | file | must Gentoofy the machine! |
| 22:30.46 | Cae | hum. do I feel like enabling qos/fair queueing.. |
| 22:30.55 | Cae | and queue is a bizarre word |
| 22:38.28 | captain_proton | zak: i'll come over whenever you want to get started |
| 22:38.51 | lurgyman | ooh |
| 22:38.53 | lurgyman | gentoo :) |
| 22:39.05 | captain_proton | lurgyman: chmod 777 /mnt/point2 |
| 22:39.52 | lurgyman | there |
| 22:40.07 | captain_proton | yay |
| 22:41.35 | Cae | someone remind me to eat eventually.. |
| 22:41.49 | file | 112 of 119... |
| 22:43.15 | lurgyman | Cae: eat eventually |
| 22:43.22 | ChipX86 | Cae: as requested, I'm reminding you to eat |
| 22:43.28 | zak | captain_proton: how's about an hour? i need to finish some stuff around here |
| 22:43.29 | ChipX86 | which is something I should do as well |
| 22:44.41 | captain_proton | zak: sounds good |
| 22:45.03 | zak | lurgyman: avez vous un broom? |
| 22:45.41 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 22:45.51 | zak | and a clicker and a pencil? |
| 22:45.56 | lurgyman | yep |
| 22:46.19 | lurgyman | grr |
| 22:46.20 | lurgyman | though |
| 22:46.25 | lurgyman | i think i left the pencil downstairs |
| 22:46.35 | zak | and stick them in the locker |
| 22:46.40 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 22:47.06 | zak | captain_proton: do you have a broom? |
| 22:47.51 | captain_proton | we have one of those swiffer-wet things, but i think we're out of the little attachey-gizmos |
| 22:48.07 | zak | hiya scanline wb |
| 22:48.54 | scanline | hi |
| 22:49.13 | lurgyman | :( |
| 22:50.14 | captain_proton | mornin' scanline |
| 22:51.10 | scanline | I like your ideas about pybzifying bzflag :) |
| 22:51.23 | lurgyman | uh oh |
| 22:52.51 | captain_proton | lurgyman: can you rm -r /mnt/point/whr11? perms are funky |
| 22:53.13 | file | wow, Gnome is running really well on my laptop |
| 22:53.21 | file | despite it still emerging at the same time |
| 22:53.40 | lurgyman | okeydoke |
| 22:54.49 | darth_mall | hehe, lurgyman left 2 pencils on the couch ^^ |
| 22:55.44 | lurgyman | darth_mall: one of those is zak's :) |
| 22:56.32 | ChipX86 | gnome 2.6 is nice |
| 22:56.50 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:57.45 | lurgyman | ChipX86: testing it? |
| 22:57.54 | ChipX86 | been using it for awhile |
| 22:58.00 | ChipX86 | no crashes lately, and it works smoothly |
| 22:58.57 | Cae | yummy. |
| 22:59.33 | ChipX86 | must install that today |
| 22:59.45 | darth_mall | mmmm.... My Favorite |
| 23:01.38 | Cae | how many kernel options are there anyway? |
| 23:02.42 | lurgyman | 651, in mine |
| 23:02.47 | lurgyman | including the reiser4 options |
| 23:02.51 | ChipX86 | yay for make gconfig |
| 23:02.53 | lurgyman | so maybe, 645 vanilla |
| 23:04.11 | ChipX86 | I wonder why a lot of "If unsure, say YES" options aren't yes by default |
| 23:04.23 | Cae | hehe |
| 23:04.26 | lurgyman | hehe |
| 23:04.27 | lurgyman | could be gentoo messes with them |
| 23:04.27 | Cae | I've wondered that before |
| 23:04.43 | ChipX86 | lurgyman: no, plain kernels |
| 23:04.53 | ChipX86 | also, some "If unsure, say NO" are yes by defaul |
| 23:04.53 | ChipX86 | t |
| 23:05.01 | Cae | just like wondering why "if you don't know what this is, say NO" are also enabled |
| 23:05.06 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:05.19 | ChipX86 | make gconfig is nice |
| 23:05.19 | lurgyman | ChipX86: emerged kernels? |
| 23:05.27 | ChipX86 | lurgyman: I don't use gentoo |
| 23:05.30 | lurgyman | heh |
| 23:05.33 | lurgyman | right! |
| 23:06.48 | Cae | Chip uses..allegedly redhat |
| 23:06.53 | ChipX86 | fedora |
| 23:06.55 | ChipX86 | with customizations |
| 23:07.23 | lurgyman | yay, customizations |
| 23:08.54 | Cae | customizations.. |
| 23:09.04 | Cae | is that greater than or equal to half of it? |
| 23:10.23 | ChipX86 | less than |
| 23:10.38 | ChipX86 | well, I don't know actually |
| 23:10.53 | ChipX86 | all new gnome and all the libs that need it, kernel, gaim.. |
| 23:11.00 | ChipX86 | new browsers |
| 23:11.04 | zak | scanline: tag tonight? |
| 23:11.06 | ChipX86 | some patched software like xmms |
| 23:11.35 | Cae | hm |
| 23:11.37 | ChipX86 | kinky |
| 23:11.39 | captain_proton | i -think- its supposed to be declined |
| 23:11.43 | captain_proton | from the context |
| 23:11.48 | darth_mall | scanline is some kind of monkey |
| 23:11.52 | captain_proton | since he's talking about how the guy is busy and all |
| 23:12.19 | darth_mall | captain_proton: that would make sense |
| 23:12.52 | captain_proton | and thats the same kind of error they made with the fire distinguisher |
| 23:13.32 | zak | lol |
| 23:13.41 | lurgyman | heheh |
| 23:15.34 | captain_proton | lurgyman: ugh, did llama crash? |
| 23:17.33 | scanline | I wish I could distinguish fires |
| 23:19.58 | file | mmm, a Mr. Big bar... so yummy |
| 23:26.44 | darth_mall | grrrr |
| 23:27.30 | Cae | grrrr? |
| 23:27.38 | zak | scanline: it's the brightly colored hot thing that hurts if you touch it |
| 23:27.50 | scanline | ohhhh |
| 23:27.52 | scanline | alright then |
| 23:29.17 | Cae|Food | back in a little while |
| 23:30.05 | zak | so. scanline :) tag later? |
| 23:30.21 | zak | weeble. |
| 23:30.22 | scanline | I'm kind of blehhh about tag |
| 23:30.51 | zak | but! are you blehhh about everything else too? it might as well be tag? |
| 23:31.50 | scanline | no, I'm not |
| 23:31.52 | scanline | just tag |
| 23:32.59 | zak | ok |
| 23:34.39 | ChipX86 | ooh, x-box gamepad support. *click* |
| 23:34.55 | file | click click |
| 23:34.58 | captain_proton | ChipX86: well, they're just USB |
| 23:35.01 | captain_proton | with a proprietary connector |
| 23:35.02 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:35.09 | ChipX86 | but I don't have any game controllers, and I didn't even think about using those |
| 23:35.15 | ChipX86 | now that we just got an x-box |
| 23:37.25 | lurgyman | uh |
| 23:37.27 | lurgyman | hmm |
| 23:37.29 | lurgyman | that was weird |
| 23:37.31 | lurgyman | it's all better all of the sudden |
| 23:38.54 | captain_proton | zak: poke |
| 23:40.15 | zak | hiya. not quite ready yet. |
| 23:40.57 | zak | today is not good for me |
| 23:41.20 | captain_proton | ooh, in the name of healthy |
| 23:42.29 | lurgyman | captain_proton: don't take away his sake, if he's an alcoholic he's liable to go into a fit |
| 23:43.21 | darth_mall | lurgyman: feel like Smash or Monkey Ball? |
