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00:00.01laloI love this name :-)
00:00.09*** join/#tacobeam steph (~steph@steph.registered.freenode)
00:00.11captain_proton'night Cae|Sleep
00:00.40kergothCae|Sleep: sleep well.
00:17.15lurgymanarf
00:17.33darth_mallyay lurgyman!
00:17.42lurgymanmrnky
00:17.42ChipX86steph: er. Phone sucks.
00:17.43darth_malllurgyman: do you know if your roommates are planning on staying in the fall?
00:17.55lurgymanyes, they are
00:17.59darth_malldamn, ok
00:18.09steph:/
00:18.11stephits ok
00:18.14stephashgeshfghg
00:18.19stephshes still talking
00:18.22ChipX86heh
00:18.31lurgymanhmm?
00:18.43ChipX86my mom called. I said I had you on the other line, and she said she has never been able to get her phone (same model as mine) to switch back after hanging up
00:19.13ChipX86it could be because of the rain though. Sometimes the drops refract the radio waves from the phone
00:19.37lurgyman~fishslap ChipX86
00:19.39ACTION slaps ChipX86 up side the head with a wet fish.
00:19.45lurgymannot unless it's at 950MHz
00:19.49lurgyman:)
00:20.15ChipX86my CPU is 1GHz, so it could be that the frequencies were mixing
00:20.20ChipX86and then being refracted
00:20.24lurgymanheh, right
00:20.39scanlinerefracted off of weatherballoons filled with sunspots from venus
00:20.40lurgymancuz mixed frequencies just average out ^^
00:20.45ChipX86scanline: exactly
00:20.48ChipX86lurgyman: yep
00:20.56lurgymanooooh, scanline made it all clear
00:21.10ChipX86yay, The New DISKO :D
00:21.46fileFNR? Free Matrix!
00:21.47lurgymanChipX86: you should discover some LNV at some point too :P
00:22.31ChipX86file: pfft
00:22.52captain_protonlurgyman: 2.4GHz is absorbed by water
00:23.05ChipX86cool, I broke nautilus
00:23.10lurgymancaptain_proton: yep, absorbed. not refracted :)
00:23.25captain_protontrue
00:23.29lurgyman947MHz is the frequency they use for water-detecting radar
00:23.47lurgymanat least, vertical profiling radars
00:24.16captain_protonheh
00:24.46lurgymaner
00:24.52lurgymans/947/917/
00:25.02lurgymanair refracts at ~45-50MHz
00:25.27ChipX86I have a number of things to contribute when I can spare some bandwidth
00:26.30lurgymanyay
00:26.38ChipX86oh yeah, new Dream Theater is up. A Change of Seasons
00:27.44lurgymanoo
00:30.29scanlineso if I'm doing this math right, there's a probability of about 3e-87 that this 41-byte passphrase will apppear if the satellite is fed random data at 9600 baud for 1 year
00:30.41scanlineI think that's good enough
00:31.08lurgymanhehe
00:31.21lurgymanit's like homework, with encryption stuff on top of it
00:31.40scanlinewell, this FSM generator is really inefficient with code space, so it limits the length I can make these passphrases
00:31.57lurgyman:)
00:32.01scanlinebut I managed to make a 41-byte passphrase fit after some optimization, and I guess that's enough
00:32.21scanlinekind of sick that it takes up almost all of my 1 kiloword ROM
00:32.39lurgymanheh
00:33.25fileoh so close to 42...
00:33.41scanlinewell, a 42-byte passphrase would probably fit too
00:33.57scanlinethe code space usage is only a little higher than linear on the number of passphrase bytes
00:34.00file42! the answer to the question of the universe!
00:34.17scanlineso find me some Pink Floyd lyrics that are exactly 42 characters long :P
00:34.28filedarn
00:34.38scanlineooh, I should just put a comma in
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00:36.57scanlinenow I just need to write another soft UART, some timing goop, and a test suite...
00:37.08lurgymanwoof, UART
00:37.22lurgymanoh wait
00:37.24scanlineheh
00:37.25lurgymanwe finished it
00:37.26lurgymannever mind
00:37.58scanlineI already wrote two UARTs for the other chip, but this one doesn't have to be event driven, and needs to be somewhat robust
00:46.09lurgymanhmm
00:49.10lurgyman"Dear Dan, It seems that you turned in your aural-skills homework to me this morning. Please put your written homework in my box in the office, and stop by my office (N127) to pick up your other homework. -Yonatan Malin"
00:49.11lurgymand'oh
00:49.47captain_protonsmooth
00:51.53darth_malllurgyman: uhoh, are you in trouble?
00:52.28lurgymanheh, probably not
00:52.49lurgymanyonatan is fairly reasonable, even if he is the most boring person ever to inhabit the earth
00:53.36darth_mallheheh
00:54.01ChipX86oh yeah! We have pizza
00:54.20scanlineurgh, this HTML file is way too big for galeon and my ibook's RAM
00:56.59captain_protonthe progressive rendering of the bifurc diagrams is so neat to watch
00:58.09captain_protonnot unlikely
00:59.15scanlinecould probably fix that by storing a separate iteration counter for each column, or even just ditching the heap and going back to uniformly picking an X coordinate at random
00:59.36darth_malltoo bad lurgyman isn't made of peanut sauce
00:59.54captain_protonooh, this one is neat
01:00.11captain_protonscanline: well, the priority queue is good
01:00.50scanlinewell, it breaks some assumptions the histogram renderer makes
01:01.30scanlineI could fix that, but I'm not sure it could be done in a generic enough way to still be able to refactor out the histogram code.. without making it a lot slower at least
01:01.31lurgymandarth_mall: an sg-1-shaped moose?
01:01.40captain_protonhttp://navi.cx/images/chaos/bifurcation-9.png
01:02.11darth_malllurgyman: I'm leaving in about 25 minutes
01:02.12darth_mallotherwise I would
01:02.21darth_mallmaybe tonight after I get back and after we do RoD
01:02.29captain_protonthough i think i'm only going to do an hour or so, we'll see
01:02.31scanlinecaptain_proton: purdy
01:02.34lurgymanok then
01:02.35lurgymanwell
01:03.15scanlinecaptain_proton: that stuff in the middle where it jumps between fixed points at the top and bottom is rather neat :)
01:03.29scanlineer, not even fixed points I guess
01:03.34scanlinejust jumps between chaotic bits
01:03.46scanlinethat could be a part where it's chaotic, but differently depending on the initial conditions
01:04.39darth_mallscanline: david says the initial conditions don't matter
01:05.03scanlineI've seen cases where they do
01:06.09darth_mallscanline: he says you need to show him these cases when you both get back
01:06.12darth_mallbecause they shouldn't exist
01:06.18scanlinehmm
01:06.20scanlineok
01:08.47scanlinehrm
01:09.07scanlineto properly scale the bifurcation diagrams if they're rendered unevenly, I'd need a separate color table for each column
01:09.38scanlineor, just one color table that's the largest I'd need for any column, then a multiplication per pixel to scale it to that table
01:10.00scanlinedoable, but I'd probably need to just have a completely separate histogram renderer for bifurcation diagrams
01:11.25CIA-4galago: 03chipx86 * r86 10libgalago/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added galago_account_is_native().
01:34.49scanlineHi, newbie question: do any GUIs allow for painting of the screen with
01:34.49scanlinevector graphics? For a client-server model like PicoGUI's, wouldn't that
01:34.49scanlinesave significant amounts of bandwidth by letting the server compute the
01:34.49scanlineactual pixels that need to be updated?
01:35.57*** join/#tacobeam file (~file@mctn1-2964.nb.aliant.net)
01:38.11darth_mallscanline: that's meant to be sniffed like glue
01:38.42fileI think I uh... overloaded half the power sockets in my room
01:54.33scanlinehmm, free registration for the first 100 space grant students to sign up for this interesting looking career fair...
01:55.04scanlinenot sure I'd want a job in aerospace though
01:55.20scanlineit would involve being with even more aerospace people than I am now ;)
01:58.21scanlineeep, it's in colorado springs
01:59.18*** join/#tacobeam zak (~zak@navi.cs.colorado.edu)
01:59.30scanlinehi zak
01:59.48zakoo yea!
02:00.02zakscanline: i am replacing a power supply
02:00.29zakand because i haven't done this before and there aren't directions, i left the old one attached and have been replacing the pins as i go
02:00.37zaki just removed a P8
02:00.45zakbut the new one doesn't seem to have one
02:00.50zaksuggestions?
02:01.02scanlineif it's an ATX supply (like I'm sure all you've seen are) so all plugs that should go together fit together
02:01.10scanlinewhat shape is it?
02:01.37scanlines/so /
02:01.48scanlineer, s#s/so /#s/so //#
02:02.11zakthe old pin is one of the smaller variety
02:02.23zakthat doesn't attach to the the motherboard
02:02.30scanlinezak: what shape is this connector you're talking about? what's the dimensions on the pin grid?
02:02.48zakthere are 4 actual pins
02:03.03zakbut there are 4 on the bigger ones as well
02:03.04scanlinethe really big connector is the only one the motherboard needs, some have the smaller 2x2 4-pin connectors for extra 12v power, but that's optional
02:03.15scanlineoh, this is a floppy power cable?
02:03.19zakthis one has that, but i already attached this
02:03.24zakyes
02:03.30scanlineis this 2x2 pins or 4x1 pins?
02:03.48scanlineall the 4x1 pin plugs are for floppies and hard disks
02:03.56zaki have another one labled P7 that is identical but for the labling and possible things i cannot see
02:04.00zak4x1
02:04.02scanlineso your problem is that you have an extra one on the power supply and nowhere to plug it?
02:04.14zakno, i know that there will be extra
02:04.21zakare the numbers specific to the port?
02:04.27scanlineno
02:04.32zakor do just specific types go certain places
02:04.33scanlineall that matters is the plug shape
02:04.39scanlineif the plug fits, it's fine
02:04.48zakso as long as it looks the same, then i am ok?
02:04.50zakalright cool
02:05.45zakwill you be around later if i get stuck again?
02:06.09scanlineprobably
02:06.18zakok, cool. many thanks :)
02:06.22scanlineright now I'm at work.. will probably come home within an hour or so
02:07.07zakwell if you feel like stopping by the itll, i am in the basement lab plaza, BLP, in the mez shack on the back wall
02:07.13lurgymanyay, it's zak!
02:07.18zakno it's not
02:07.23lurgymannuh uh
02:07.27gonkulatorits *really* james
02:07.32lurgymanok
02:07.34lurgymanzak: hi james
02:07.35gonkulatoror, Mr. Pineapple
02:08.57lurgymanscanline: too many aeros? :P
02:09.16CIA-4navi-misc: 03brandon * r2861 10mice/rebuild/applets/ (26 files in 4 dirs): This is all of the stuff for an interview applet that has been shown to work on more browsers than just Safari.  Also being commited is a start on an applet (mostly done) that is the same, but does moderation.
02:09.34lurgymanyikes
02:09.35lurgymanindeed
02:11.30lurgymanhad too!
02:11.35gonkulatorhehehe
02:11.40gonkulatorwell, since yesterday
02:13.20lurgymannope
02:17.45gonkulatoryep
02:18.13fileWarning: Partial power grid failure.
02:18.22lurgymannope
02:18.23fileCircuit #1: 45% Power
02:18.27fileCircuit #2: 100% Power