| 00:01.40 | scanline | zak: you should get your clothes out of the dryer so I can use it :) |
| 00:10.45 | scanline | zak: pokeypoke |
| 00:12.15 | Samy | Just watched "Return of the Dragon", "Enter the Dragon", and "Fists of Fury" for the first time. |
| 00:12.46 | Samy | All of which have sub-standard story lines, especially "Return of the Dragon" (which is certainly the worst of three, but has very very nice fight scenes). |
| 00:35.26 | Samy | GNOME is changing. |
| 00:35.34 | Samy | It's going to own now, yes indeed. |
| 00:35.35 | Samy | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2004-July/msg00008.html |
| 00:38.22 | Samy | Why cough? |
| 00:38.56 | scanline | it's an interesting approach to mailing list spam |
| 00:39.17 | Samy | lol |
| 00:39.58 | Samy | Nothing. |
| 00:40.06 | scanline | lurgy: he's just some wacko trying to peddle a shareware gedit clone |
| 00:40.07 | Samy | This guy wanted: Money, fame and power from nothing. |
| 00:41.06 | lurgy | oh, shareware? |
| 00:41.10 | lurgy | pff |
| 00:41.45 | Samy | I respect people who commercialize their work, but only when their work is worth it. Even worst, rather than properly taking advantage of open-source to gain the experience and knowledge needed in the real world, they try to scam their way through with half-assed software. |
| 00:42.04 | Samy | Look at the end of the message, he has no clue how to implement source-code highlighting. |
| 00:42.24 | Samy | Which he could basically copy from Scintilla or gedit's plugin, etc... |
| 00:42.29 | Samy | He doesn't even have the ability for this. |
| 00:42.44 | lurgy | if he included gedit's plugin, he might have to GPL his whole app |
| 00:42.53 | lurgy | which would be bad news for getting money for it |
| 00:42.58 | Samy | "steal" the code lurgy. |
| 00:43.06 | Samy | Read the code, re-write it for his application. |
| 00:43.16 | lurgy | well, the same goes no matter which verb you use there :) |
| 00:43.26 | Samy | No. |
| 00:43.38 | Samy | A rewrite doesn't need to be GPl. |
| 00:44.02 | lurgy | but why bother rewriting? |
| 00:44.37 | Samy | nm. |
| 00:44.54 | lurgy | i'm sure he could find a product with syntax hilighting under the BSD or LGPL or other such similar, more flexible licenses :) |
| 00:45.08 | Samy | and, ignoring the option of rewriting (which is again, very simple given a similar code-base), GPLing plug-ins is actually a good thing for business. |
| 00:45.45 | lurgy | well.. not if you want people to pay for your product.. then you have to open the source code, no? |
| 00:46.08 | lurgy | ..and then others could package it and release it |
| 00:46.15 | Samy | Actually, a GPL plugin is not possible I think. |
| 00:46.24 | lurgy | =) certainly not wise |
| 00:46.31 | Samy | Since it's a "component" |
| 00:46.38 | Samy | A plugin can behave as you wish lurgy. |
| 00:46.47 | Samy | You can gear it towards being very specific to your application. |
| 00:46.55 | Samy | ex: Stack/multi-layer based procedures |
| 00:47.20 | lurgy | sure, the plugin can behave as i want, but i doubt he's going to have an identical plugin architecture to GEdit in his app |
| 00:47.28 | lurgy | which means he'd have to "rewrite" |
| 00:47.28 | Samy | The core application using these APIs, which is closed source, can have a pretty obscure API. |
| 00:47.43 | lurgy | though i get what you're saying |
| 00:47.52 | lurgy | yes, it's unlikely the gedit plugins are GPL'ed :) |
| 00:48.01 | Samy | Again, no. "Rewriting" from a similar code-base is very trivial. |
| 00:48.15 | Samy | and you know, we're arguing over a pretty...pathetic application here lurgy :) |
| 00:48.21 | lurgy | yep :) |
| 00:48.23 | lurgy | it's pretty silly |
| 00:48.23 | Samy | heh |
| 00:48.32 | Samy | Well, back to helping my mom. |
| 00:49.03 | lurgy | mkay |
| 00:49.06 | lurgy | be seeing you :) |
| 00:51.49 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgy -> now with the soothing aroma of curry || if you are begging for money to "put together" a meal, but won't take food when it is handed to you, you obviously shouldn't be begging. || (..or it's pretty obvious you weren't really looking for food.. =P) |
| 00:55.47 | *** topic/#tacobeam by lurgy -> now with the soothing aroma of curry || if you are begging for money to "put together" a meal, but won't take food when it is handed to you, you obviously shouldn't be begging. || (..or it's pretty obvious you weren't really looking for food, or need to be less picky.. =P) |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: 03micah * r4656 10rcpod/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: Tweak the tc74_test benchmarking a bit, enable all transmission types, and fix a |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: couple bugs related to long reads and write_read transmissions with no write |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: bytes. This seems to be working on a serial EEPROM now, and soon this will get |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-7 | navi-misc: some test cases. |
| 01:17.08 | CIA-7 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1000 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-presence-menu-item.c): Don't hide the presence menu item when the account signs off. This is commit #1000! Too bad it sucks, but it is a bug fix at least! |
| 01:31.51 | *** join/#tacobeam steph (SD_Slick@c-67-170-127-241.client.comcast.net) |
| 01:35.21 | scanline | yay, 1000 |