| 00:03.31 | purple_cow | better to be cut by something sharp than something kinda-sharp |
| 00:05.15 | ChipX86 | TD: scary thread to start :) I'm glad you wrote that doc though |
| 00:06.43 | TD | the libs thread? |
| 00:06.48 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:06.53 | TD | it had to be done |
| 00:07.03 | TD | i will continue to argue for backwards compatibility and a stable platform until we have one |
| 00:07.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:07.44 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 00:07.52 | ChipX86 | I assume jdub's comment is because of galago-daemon and notification-daemon |
| 00:08.23 | ChipX86 | I don't know what people want. One mega daemon? No daemons? That's not doable. |
| 00:08.28 | TD | indeed |
| 00:08.45 | ChipX86 | I'm getting tired of it all |
| 00:08.50 | ChipX86 | people want magic |
| 00:09.47 | TD | yeah :( |
| 00:09.54 | TD | i just jdub just likes being contrary sometimes |
| 00:10.12 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:10.28 | ChipX86 | he was so pro-galago and then all of a sudden seemed less than enthused |
| 00:10.29 | ChipX86 | I don't get him |
| 00:11.39 | TD | he is inscrutable :) |
| 00:11.48 | TD | i kind of like him though, oddly. even though we argue all the time |
| 00:14.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:15.09 | ChipX86 | see if the libgalago docs work for you |
| 00:15.33 | TD | oh wait |
| 00:15.36 | TD | i just don't understand doxygen |
| 00:15.40 | TD | it *looks* empty |
| 00:15.42 | TD | it's not though |
| 00:15.47 | TD | there needs to be some "main page" content :) |
| 00:15.54 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:15.57 | ChipX86 | yeah, at the top |
| 00:15.58 | purple_cow | yay doxygen |
| 00:16.03 | ChipX86 | we can add main page content |
| 00:16.04 | ChipX86 | I just haven't :) |
| 00:16.13 | purple_cow | it'd be nice if doxygen & gtk-doc could be overlapped a bit |
| 00:16.17 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 00:16.19 | ChipX86 | definitely |
| 00:16.34 | ChipX86 | or at the very least, gtk-doc index file output for doxygen, or doxygen support in devhelp |
| 00:16.45 | ChipX86 | jdub is speaking nonsense |
| 00:16.51 | purple_cow | mostly i'd like to see the class hierarchy stuff in gtk-doc :) |
| 00:16.57 | ChipX86 | there is absolutely no gain to his method. he just doesn't want ps aux to be so big |
| 00:16.58 | purple_cow | because those graphs are so very useful |
| 00:17.04 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:17.11 | TD | yeah |
| 00:17.14 | TD | i think that sums it up |
| 00:17.21 | purple_cow | bah |
| 00:17.23 | TD | purple_cow: i'd rather gtk just used doxygen but they have valid reasons not to |
| 00:17.29 | TD | for new projects it makes sense to use doxygen though |
| 00:17.34 | purple_cow | there's no reason not to have bazillions of processes anymore |
| 00:17.48 | purple_cow | aux is a silly set of flags to use if you're looking for something specific |
| 00:17.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:18.03 | ChipX86 | point is, jdub's arguing for the heck of it :) |
| 00:18.05 | purple_cow | well, i prefer gtk-doc's API reference style |
| 00:19.04 | ChipX86 | I'm not going to argue this with him |
| 00:19.20 | ChipX86 | it'll get nowhere |
| 00:20.16 | ChipX86 | TD: wtf? I'm lost now |
| 00:20.32 | TD | lol |
| 00:20.50 | TD | "aggregating the functionality, single lifecycle, knowing wtf does what, etc." |
| 00:20.51 | ChipX86 | "Everything should be one dameon. They should just be many daemons, that's all" <-- is that what he's saying? |
| 00:20.58 | TD | first is just a statement of fact, not a rason |
| 00:21.06 | TD | second is unsupported and of dubious merit |
| 00:21.18 | TD | third appears to be the exact opposite consequence of aggregating everything into one superd |
| 00:21.22 | TD | i mean wtf does kded do? |
| 00:21.35 | TD | jdub clearly thinks it's kdeinit which it isn't, neatly illustrating the problem |
| 00:23.05 | ChipX86 | I'm so confused |
| 00:23.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: are we playing tonight? |
| 00:24.55 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 00:24.57 | ChipX86 | earthlink commercial |
| 00:25.07 | ChipX86 | one lady has that flying earthlink logo around her head |
| 00:25.44 | ChipX86 | the other one says, "Some of the other mothers and I are a little concerned about the... thing... moving around your head. It seems a little dangerous." |
| 00:26.15 | ChipX86 | "Oh, no, I just wanted better Internet and virus protection. And this isn't real, it's an earthlink marketting device." |
| 00:27.06 | TD | wtf? |
| 00:27.07 | TD | they said that? |
| 00:27.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:27.12 | ChipX86 | it was great |
| 00:27.27 | ChipX86 | there's been a few really good commercials on today :) |
| 00:34.00 | TD | moving parts? |
| 00:34.20 | ChipX86 | he's arguing for the sake of it |
| 00:34.22 | ChipX86 | that's all he's doing |
| 00:34.35 | ChipX86 | notice how every time someone agrees partially, he has to change it? |
| 00:35.21 | TD | yeah |
| 00:35.52 | TD | ChipX86: s/notify_is_initted/notify_is_initialized/ ? |
| 00:36.11 | TD | hmm, why does that function even exist actually? why would the library user care? |
| 00:36.48 | ChipX86 | I believe it was because of the app name and stuff |
| 00:36.54 | ChipX86 | but it was from the first impl |
| 00:37.06 | TD | ah, yeah |
| 00:37.07 | TD | ok |
| 00:37.15 | TD | fair enough. i guess it makes sense for libs that might generate notificaitons |
| 00:37.19 | TD | no harm to leave it in anyway |
| 00:37.29 | TD | oh man, this is so classic |
| 00:37.34 | TD | remind me what code jdub has written again? |
| 00:37.39 | ChipX86 | almost nothing |
| 00:37.55 | TD | exactly |
| 00:38.11 | ChipX86 | jdub thinks gnome is his nowadays, I've noticed |
| 00:38.38 | TD | i think that's going a bit far, but yeah, he tends to be quite domineering |
| 00:39.17 | ChipX86 | maybe it's an exageration, but he does talk sometimes like things are his decision |
| 00:39.17 | TD | ChipX86: want me to reply to the email? |
| 00:39.23 | ChipX86 | yeah, please |
| 00:39.34 | TD | k |
| 00:43.11 | TD | done |
| 00:43.25 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 00:44.29 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: what'cha up to? |
| 00:44.34 | ChipX86 | I'll probably reply to it as well |
| 00:45.03 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: trying to get nova's monitors working as they once did |
| 00:45.17 | gonkulator | they all work in winderz... |
| 00:45.18 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: have you tried fairy dust? |
| 00:45.23 | ChipX86 | TD: this is where we need people like J5 weighing in |
| 00:45.32 | file[laptop] | J5... Jumper Five! |
| 00:45.33 | gonkulator | nope |
| 00:46.15 | TD | yeah |
| 00:46.30 | TD | people who are actually coders, though i'm loathe to point this out to jdub as it'll just cause a huge flamewar |
| 00:46.51 | ChipX86 | ed is very sarcastic |
| 00:49.45 | gonkulator | argh... |
| 00:51.28 | ChipX86 | pfft, the nearest Pizza Hut is all the way over in Mountain View! |
| 00:51.32 | ChipX86 | of course, that's 2.4 miles away.. |
| 00:52.33 | purple_cow | ewwwwww @ pizza hut |
| 00:52.51 | ChipX86 | I'm craving it for some reason |
| 00:53.07 | ChipX86 | I need a change in pizza |
| 00:53.56 | ChipX86 | okayyyy |
| 00:54.09 | ChipX86 | an automated machine thing is taking my order |
| 00:54.29 | ChipX86 | I don't trust this |
| 00:54.42 | ChipX86 | but it promises free pizza if I buy 5 from her over the course of some period of time |
| 00:56.52 | purple_cow | but... |
| 00:56.55 | purple_cow | pizza hut is so greasy :P |
| 00:58.01 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:58.08 | ChipX86 | don't know why I want it. |
| 00:58.16 | ChipX86 | that automated girl is scary :( |
| 00:58.21 | ChipX86 | but she sounds cute |
| 01:01.10 | gonkulator | cute even, yes |
| 01:01.54 | TD | heh |
| 01:02.32 | gonkulator | thats the spirit! |
| 01:03.31 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 01:04.08 | ChipX86 | aww he's playing along |
| 01:04.18 | ChipX86 | the fighting stopped though :D |
| 01:04.35 | TD | heh |
| 01:05.18 | file | apparently we've partnered with some sort of foreign company... |
| 01:05.19 | file | In a joint venture between Quasar Softech (Kuwait) and VoiceConduits (USA), quasarsoftech brings VOIP technology to India and Kuwait market. |
| 01:05.32 | gonkulator | pwd |
| 01:06.34 | gonkulator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.36 | gonkulator | oops |