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00:02.54darth_mallI wonder if there's any coffee left
00:03.00scanlinenot unless you made more
00:03.05darth_malldamn
00:03.21scanlineyay, navi and wasabi should always be available as fyre rendering nodes now
00:03.25scanlineas long as wasabi's on at least
00:03.44scanlinethis one's awfully slow to render
00:03.57scanlinethe center gets to 1.2 million peak density and the edges still look grainy
00:04.24darth_malllurgy: how do you make treaties?
00:06.24lurgydarth_mall: well, when two older treaties meet each other, and love each other *very* much..
00:06.54darth_mallohhh
00:06.55darth_mallI see
00:07.32purple_cowrofl
00:08.20gonkulatorok, time to go fix my aunt's box... again
00:09.44scanlinehah
00:10.14scanlineeven with a histogram merge only every 10 seconds, it's taking about 300KB/s per node to cluster-render a 1600x1200 image with 2x oversample
00:10.41scanlinethe render servers are probably using 8MB stream buffers for this one
00:14.30scanlineheh, purple_cow's ctrlproxy on navi is still using more memory than the fyre server :P
00:14.57purple_cowblah
00:15.30lurgydarth_mall: i don't think you can make treaties until you meet the other civ
00:25.28symlinkdarth_mall: why the dancing?
00:26.30rioterwhy not dancing
00:30.29purple_cowyay! goldfrapp concert videos!
00:31.06scanline29 million peak density
00:31.07scanlineyikes
00:47.38CIA-9navi-misc: 03micah 07cube64-charge-pump * r5929 /: Remove obsolete branch
00:47.57CIA-9navi-misc: 03micah 07fyre-multithread * r5930 /: Remove obsolete branch
00:50.06CIA-9navi-misc: 03micah * r5931 10python/Rack.py: Salvage Rack.py from the cia-before-sql branch. It's really the only worthwhile thing in there, and doesn't depend on the rest of CIA at all.
00:50.24CIA-9navi-misc: 03micah 07cia-before-sql * r5932 /: Remove obsolete branch
00:54.59CIA-9navi-misc: 03micah 07de-jong-explorer-crappy-trig * r5933 /: Remove *really* obsolete branch
00:56.19purple_cowhehe
01:01.32scanlinehttp://navi.cx/images/chaos/wicker-shoelace-1600.png
01:01.32scanlineyay
01:01.48scanline1.486e+10 iterations
01:02.59purple_cowhow long did that take?
01:03.08scanlinehmm, good question
01:03.12scanlinethis GUI needs a timer
01:03.29scanlinelooks like 55 minutes of CPU time on wasabi
01:03.40purple_cowwow
01:03.43scanlineso close to an hour with three nodes
01:03.59scanlineand yoshi's CPU was also busy with md5summing and updating the GUI
01:13.11hardwirethats perty
01:14.45scanlinehttp://navi.cx/images/chaos/46-1600.png
01:14.46scanlinemmm
01:15.03purple_cowtoo much blur
01:15.04scanline3x oversample
01:15.09hardwireits perty
01:15.35scanlinepurple_cow: I think it helps reduce the contrast of this big orange thing against solid white
01:15.54purple_cowi'd reduce either the radius or the ratio just a bit
01:17.57scanlinejust the histogram buffer is about 65MB :)
01:19.51hardwireOverlapping Big Spheres 1600 is me new background
01:19.56hardwireits very QT esque!
01:26.26scanlineand tileable!
01:27.16hardwireoh la!
01:27.38hardwireyou know
01:27.42hardwireits too big for my screen anyways
01:27.46hardwireso I wouldn't know ;)
01:28.10hardwirehow did you get it tileable?
01:28.10scanlinepurple_cow: yeah, that did turn out a bit better
01:28.37scanlinehardwire: it's an option in fyre- makes the histogram buffer wrap around on the edges
01:28.53hardwireneat
01:28.58hardwireon all 8 sides
01:29.03scanline8?
01:29.09hardwiresorry
01:29.18hardwire4 ;)
01:29.25hardwireI am thinking of bad things at the moment.
01:29.40scanline6 sides would be neat
01:30.09scanlineI don't have nearly enough money for RAM though
01:31.11purple_cowhmm. allison goldfrapp dresses awfully scantily in her concerts
01:32.32purple_cowand she's wearing a tail...
01:32.42scanlinehehe
01:33.31ChipX86yay tails
01:33.47kergothweird, my left shoulder hurts for some reason, out of nowhere
01:38.17scanlinepurple_cow: oh, I had this strange urge to build a data glove last night. 3-axis accelerometer for measuring hand orientation, and capacitive sensors on all fingertips and the palm
01:38.40scanlinecould probably be done for $30 or so in parts
01:38.57scanlinewell, more if you count the PCB
01:42.43scanlinewell, if you could measure distance between any pair of fingertips, you could get a pretty good idea of finger orientation
01:43.00scanlineand it would involve some passive components and an op-amp, rather than three accelerometers
01:43.26scanlinethe accelerometers are quite cheap now, but they're a little large to put on each fingertip still
01:47.07scanlinehmm
01:47.13scanlineI definitely need to play with ethernet on microcontrollers more
01:47.43scanlinesteve's dream for spacegrant's next satellite is that every subsystem has an independent computer, all connected via ethernet
01:47.52purple_coweek
01:47.55scanlineand the comm system is just a router between the radio and a local ethernet hub
01:48.02scanlineit would be quite spiffy
01:48.24scanlinethe subsystem computers could be little Atmel AVRs running a simple RTOS, connected to 10baseT ethernet chips
01:48.39scanlinemore complex subsystems could use an ARM running uClinux or something
01:50.35darth_mallthanks, whomever emptied the dishwasher and put the dirty dishes in there
01:58.02gonkulatorls
01:58.07gonkulatoroops
01:58.11gonkulatorstupid VNC....
02:02.05purple_cowhey look, a case of altoids
02:04.57scanlineheh, last disc in the 3rd 50-pack
02:05.33darth_mallhehe
02:05.41scanlinebah, handhelds.org anoncvs is still down
02:07.47purple_cowyay for isohexagonal donuts
02:14.21rioteri ate to much :(
02:15.39gonkulatorbummer
02:29.12darth_mallrioter: quickly! eat more!
02:29.25rioterill explode
02:32.03purple_cowoh sweet
02:32.17gonkulatorugh
02:32.20darth_mallrioter: like in that Monty Python movie?
02:32.27rioteryes
02:32.40purple_cowthis concert has play dead
02:32.44gonkulatorChipX86: are you still on a 2.4 kernel?
02:32.52ChipX86nope
02:33.07gonkulatorah, good
02:33.13gonkulatordid you get burning working in 2.6?
02:33.17ChipX86yeah
02:34.33gonkulators/screcord/cdrecord/
02:35.04gonkulatorrunning it with and without scsi emulation
02:35.10kergothjack-in-the-box egg nog shake. mmm.
02:35.12gonkulatorwhich I know it doesn't need
02:35.23kergothgonkulator: you dont use scsi emulation for burning under 2.6.
02:35.40purple_cowscsi emulation is sooooo broken
02:35.57gonkulatorkergoth: right
02:36.29kergothrecompile? dont you use modules?
02:37.03gonkulatorjust... not there
02:38.07gonkulatorseems I did
02:38.10gonkulatorand the module never loaded
02:38.32fileI should go get another drink
02:42.30ChipX86yeah
02:42.33ChipX86I like it that way
02:42.46ChipX86I like just building the civilization, rather than killing each other
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02:53.01darth_mallI thought about being all violent, but I think I need to get a better grip on this game first
02:53.25darth_mallplus, I've been having a lot of fun earning money ^^
02:55.09lurgyhehe
02:55.17lurgyi like building up the civilization
02:55.20ChipX86my civilization sucks
02:55.22lurgythen spending all my money on nukes
02:55.27ChipX86it was good, but I got lazy
02:55.36purple_cowmy video playback gets all choppy when the turn changes :P
03:02.14lurgyheh
03:17.00kergothbleh.
03:20.39ChipX86I should get food for dinner
03:28.06merlin262mmmm..... food
03:28.44merlin262Procrastination is going to kill me someday
03:29.52kergothheh
03:29.58kergothi have an lcd driver to write
03:30.00kergothby tomorrow
03:30.05kergothand it has to be tested and working
03:30.53scanlineyay, LCD driver
03:31.22kergothnot exactly all that tough, but still
03:31.30kergothi've had a week and a half to work on it
03:31.36kergothheh
03:31.43scanlinealmost started?
03:32.15kergothresearched it, read the data sheets on the lcd controller and panel. thats about it
03:32.25scanlineI still have this crazy idea for adding a cheap VGA output to the NSLU2 yaknow ;)
03:32.33kergoththatd be cool
03:32.35darth_mallscanline: so your conclusionary sentence made it into the lab write up
03:32.41scanlineyay
03:33.13darth_mallthe conclusion begins, "In conclusion... gravity."
03:47.15merlin262kergoth, you still at TI?
03:53.32kergothyep
03:53.39darth_malluhoh
03:53.50darth_mallcrooks is here for... duhn duhn duhn... tech support
03:54.11scanlinehaha, silly crooks
03:54.27scanlinethinks he's getting a free etherweb cable from me
03:55.27darth_mallwhat'd he want?
03:55.34scanlinewanted me to re-crimp his cable
03:57.26ChipX86oohh, 21 in 12 days
03:58.24rioterwheres my invitation :(
03:58.33ChipX86there's no party :( at least not in 12 days
03:58.43ChipX86although, I suspect my co-workers are going to do something
03:58.56rioteryou ahve to have a 21'st its the law
03:58.58darth_malloooh... beer
03:59.02ChipX86I know..
03:59.13ChipX86I'll be with the girls after Christmas and have a party then
03:59.18ChipX86Jamie and I are going out for margaritas
04:00.17kergothwho stole my energy. drained all of a sudden. could fall asleep
04:00.22ChipX86I know how you feel :/
04:00.53scanlineooh, mozilla waterant
04:02.25darth_mallgo ChipX86 go!
04:08.42ChipX86I have no idea where I'm going for work tomorrow :(
04:11.45darth_mallChipX86: you could come here =D
04:22.00purple_cowarg
04:22.06purple_cowmy comp org professor is such a bastard
04:22.26purple_cowwe have an exam on wednesday, and apparently we also have a homework due weds, but he forgot to post it until a student emailed him today
04:25.20scanlinewow, I hadn't noticed that... Kenneth Branagh was in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
04:25.28rioteryup
04:27.47darth_mallyup
04:33.52ChipX86tempted to go to Fandangos, get pizza, and do some work there
04:34.37ChipX86but what work, is the question
04:34.58ChipX86ah well. bbl
04:38.21darth_malloh how I love Holly Hunter
04:38.43darth_malland also Nick Cage, but in a different way
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04:41.06cheers'loo guys :D
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04:45.23cheers|stklet's try this again...
04:51.45darth_mallsilly cheers
04:52.11cheersI leaned on my dongle
05:03.02darth_mallooh railroads
05:03.10darth_mallwhy am I getting railroads?
05:03.19cheers'cuz you need to move cargo?
05:03.23purple_cowbecause they're much nicer than roads
05:03.25purple_cowinstant transport
05:04.00darth_malloh
05:05.01cheersfree-civ?
05:05.12purple_cowyep
05:05.14rioterdo you get free moves on them like in civ 3?
05:05.25cheersI'm assuming so... never played
05:05.27cheersbut it sounds like it
05:11.04purple_cowyay! military success!
05:11.07purple_cowtake that!
05:11.19cheerslol
05:11.39lurgyuh oh, what's it doing?
05:13.07purple_cowit's just very big
05:13.16lurgyah
05:13.18lurgyeek
05:13.20lurgydear lord
05:13.23lurgyit's built 14 settlers
05:13.47cheerslol
05:13.58kergothyay back to the future
05:14.01lurgynot to mention the scads of mech infantry
05:14.46ChipX86back
05:14.53cheershi chip
05:14.57ChipX86hi cheers
05:15.06ChipX86pizza isn't the best idea for dinner when getting sick
05:16.13ChipX86hah, yay for this channel being cool movies when I left and then porn when I get back. *shakes his head*
05:16.39cheerschip, that didn't make much sense
05:17.06ChipX86Cinemax was showing some movie when I left. Now I'm back and there's porn on
05:17.23ChipX86(I went out for dinner)
05:17.36cheersaaah
05:17.42cheersit's cinemax, so it's softcore
05:17.52ChipX86yeah
05:18.57cheerspoor chip
05:19.02ChipX86?
05:19.10cheersjust softcore ;)
05:19.14ChipX86haha
05:20.41fileonly softcore? how rude of them
05:23.11purple_cowit's so weird to have a piece by philip glass on a bowie album
05:23.29cheers?
05:23.40purple_cowthe last track on all saints
05:23.50purple_cowit's a movement from a symphony glass wrote that was inspired by low :)
05:37.08purple_cowugh, lurgy's AI just declared war
05:38.29ChipX86ooh I should play Kickle Cubicle
05:38.36scanlineholy cow
05:38.42scanline6-pin SOT-23 PICs?
05:39.28scanlinehehe, cool
05:40.58purple_cowhehe
05:41.38purple_cowdarth_mall: i like lurgy's idea of moving upstairs
05:45.52ChipX86how hard would it be to hook up a nintendo to some kind of loader that connects to a PC via USB and lets you load in ROMs?
05:46.41ChipX86there's this N64-looking controller thing with an NES chip on-board, a collection of ROMs, and an actual cartridge slot on the bottom of it. Thought about buying one
05:47.25scanlineChipX86: not hard. you'd want a big SRAM readable by the NES and writeable by a small microcontroller
05:47.44scanlineaddress decoding would be tricky
05:47.49scanlineI don't know much about the NES's mappers
05:47.58scanlinebut you might need a small PLD or something to implement that logic
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05:59.24ChipX86can't believe how tired I am
06:00.44kergothme neither, i'm thinking about going to sleep
06:00.49kergothme. sleep. before midnight.
06:00.49ChipX86same
06:00.50kergothjust weird
06:00.52ChipX86yeah
06:15.29ChipX86why did amazon.com erase my shopping cart since this morning
06:33.12ChipX86g'night kergoth
06:33.20ChipX86man, I wish I knew where I was supposed to go tomorrow
07:03.49ChipX86bed time. g'night
07:06.26purple_cowhuh
07:06.32purple_cowi'm fighting wars against 3 AIs and winning
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07:15.33darth_mallsleep time
07:32.10lurgyg'night all
07:32.30purple_cowlurgy: damn you!
07:33.51lurgyd'oh
07:33.53lurgypurple_cow: it's back up on the last autosave
07:34.00purple_cowcool
07:54.19scanlinehmm, this processor has a USB v20.0 host controller :P
07:56.17purple_cowcool
07:58.07rioteroh
07:58.12riotersid meiers pirates is out and i didnt know
08:24.26purple_cowyay for conquering 2-4 cities per turn now
08:42.00rioteri think i may assimilate and download freeciv
08:47.30purple_cow"and why wasn't this one recorded?" "my mother thought the lyrics were dirty" "were they" "um..no"
08:57.06scanlinehmm
08:57.23scanlinejust got all these cool ideas that would fix all the problems we're having currently
10:01.51scanlineyay, screwdriver-assisted partial toenail removal
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10:02.12scanlinedidn't quite end up needing wirecutters
10:34.47scanlinetime to ensnoozify a bit
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