| 00:01.44 | purple_cow | no, i demand nudity |
| 00:02.00 | probe2 | 0.o |
| 00:02.21 | probe2 | Somebody set up the webcam ^_^ |
| 00:02.26 | ChipX86 | I demand clothing! |
| 00:02.52 | probe2 | hello, ChipX86 |
| 00:02.59 | hardwire | shit |
| 00:03.08 | hardwire | the radio says I a not supposed to go outside today |
| 00:03.11 | hardwire | because of the sleet |
| 00:03.11 | ChipX86 | hi probe2 |
| 00:03.17 | hardwire | there have already been way too many accidents |
| 00:03.29 | ChipX86 | ooh another pretty one in fyre |
| 00:03.50 | hardwire | aren't they all pretty? |
| 00:04.05 | ChipX86 | yeah, but I'm starting to get the hang of finding neat patterns |
| 00:04.40 | hardwire | I have a black anodized aluminium handle on my laptop |
| 00:04.43 | hardwire | I am still scared about that |
| 00:06.37 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 00:06.47 | ChipX86 | scanline, purple_cow: people want fyre :) where should I tell them to look? |
| 00:07.52 | hardwire | you have to love a distro like gentoo |
| 00:07.56 | hardwire | ipw2200 drivers |
| 00:08.45 | ChipX86 | found it |
| 00:09.48 | hardwire | whats a good way to setup x.org under gentoo? |
| 00:12.45 | purple_cow | emerge xorg-x11 ? |
| 00:13.19 | hardwire | I thought I had installed it ;) |
| 00:13.27 | hardwire | it ran |
| 00:13.35 | hardwire | X works.. except nothing comes up cause it has no config |
| 00:19.57 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: what would it take to add an ability to fyre to let you save the progress of a render and transfer it somewhere and resume it? |
| 00:21.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:22.04 | purple_cow | we were discussing something like that a bit ago... |
| 00:23.23 | purple_cow | ooh, morph-o-zeene |
| 00:24.09 | hardwire | I want silly string |
| 00:25.12 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/ (11 files): General cleanup |
| 00:26.03 | ChipX86 | how is it that anime girls don't really look all that strange with blue or green hair, but in real life, they would look quite odd? |
| 00:27.08 | hardwire | because they are cartoons. |
| 00:27.11 | hardwire | with huge bug eyes |
| 00:27.17 | hardwire | the hair is just icing on the cake. |
| 00:29.04 | ChipX86 | fyre also needs to remember where I saved a file last |
| 00:29.13 | purple_cow | yeah, that's in BUGS |
| 00:30.08 | ChipX86 | how hard is it to set up a cluster? |
| 00:31.15 | purple_cow | very easy :) |
| 00:31.20 | ChipX86 | good. I need to do that :P |
| 00:32.59 | ChipX86 | I think I'll watch FLCL for the 10th time |
| 00:33.36 | purple_cow | yay |
| 00:40.05 | ChipX86 | uh oh, can't compile fyre on athena |
| 00:40.38 | hardwire | can you run two emerges at the same time? |
| 00:40.46 | hardwire | without lockblocking something? |
| 00:42.34 | purple_cow | sure |
| 00:43.14 | hardwire | hmm |
| 00:43.26 | hardwire | anybody doing anything cool for s3 suspend under gentoo? |
| 00:49.32 | ChipX86 | look at all these prettys |
| 00:52.58 | hardwire | this is gonna sound silly.. but how do I check what packages/versions are installed on a gentoo machi |
| 00:52.59 | hardwire | nbe |
| 00:53.01 | hardwire | err |
| 00:53.02 | hardwire | ne |
| 01:00.47 | ChipX86 | http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:-L35f-8P9lcJ:s3.invisionfree.com/Topika/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D38+flcl+overflow&hl=en |
| 01:00.50 | ChipX86 | interesting read |
| 01:03.15 | hardwire | thinking I should gentoo this little laptop as well |
| 01:03.20 | hardwire | try to get the most out of this crusoe |
| 01:03.26 | hardwire | I wish I could trade this laptop in ;) |
| 01:16.09 | *** join/#tacobeam beth_ (beth@c-67-166-53-209.client.comcast.net) |
| 01:46.02 | ChipX86 | someone IM'd me apparently with the sole intention of finding out if I develop gaim |
| 01:46.43 | file[laptop] | how interesting |
| 01:47.31 | ChipX86 | not really. I wish people didn't do that |
| 01:50.33 | hardwire | qpkg doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:50.38 | hardwire | wherediditgo???? |
| 01:51.23 | ChipX86 | wow this guy is an idiot |
| 01:51.42 | hardwire | sorry.. |
| 01:51.47 | hardwire | ;) |
| 01:51.55 | ChipX86 | that's you? |
| 01:51.59 | hardwire | nooo |
| 01:52.47 | ChipX86 | I hope this is someone messing with me |
| 01:53.39 | lurgy | hardwire: emerge gentoolkit |
| 01:53.43 | hardwire | yeh |
| 01:53.45 | hardwire | I figured it out |
| 01:53.48 | lurgy | yay |
| 01:53.52 | hardwire | how do I search for xorg and config at the same time |
| 01:53.57 | hardwire | it gives me xorg results |
| 01:54.00 | hardwire | then config results ;) |
| 01:54.06 | lurgy | hmm |
| 01:55.14 | ChipX86 | this has to be |
| 01:56.12 | hardwire | ok |
| 01:56.20 | hardwire | so two days go we found moose antlers at the dog park |
| 01:56.22 | hardwire | and brought em home |
| 01:56.29 | hardwire | both of them fro the same moose.. just recently shed |
| 01:56.31 | hardwire | crazy stuff |
| 01:56.39 | hardwire | its hard to find two of them in the same area |
| 01:56.46 | hardwire | like.. such close proximity |
| 01:56.52 | file[laptop] | hardwire: you ramble alot |
| 01:56.58 | hardwire | file[laptop]: yes |
| 01:56.59 | hardwire | yes I do |
| 01:57.07 | hardwire | my girlfriend is rambling elsewhere.. |
| 01:57.12 | hardwire | feeding me rambleness |
| 01:57.23 | hardwire | but you guys know more about my life than anything I know of yours |
| 01:57.33 | file[laptop] | ah ic |
| 01:57.33 | hardwire | I like people to know.. me.. I guess |
| 01:58.12 | hardwire | puppy just burped on me |
| 01:58.21 | hardwire | we are gonna get another one soon |
| 01:58.26 | hardwire | to tame out our two year old a little |
| 01:58.51 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/crazyzap12.html |
| 01:59.16 | file[laptop] | that's disturbing |
| 02:02.27 | scanline | hah |
| 02:02.56 | hardwire | I wanna turn these antlers into gigantic armrests |
| 02:03.05 | hardwire | how corny. |
| 02:05.20 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:05.21 | lurgy | (17:56:11) crazyzap12: ok could u make the tabs a little bigger on the winndows |
| 02:05.22 | lurgy | (17:56:18) ChipX86: no |
| 02:05.32 | lurgy | yay for chip |
| 02:08.06 | hardwire | chippid dippity |
| 02:08.10 | hardwire | I dunno |
| 02:08.12 | hardwire | damn |
| 02:08.22 | hardwire | file[laptop]: so we are going to do voip over wifi over starband. |
| 02:08.23 | hardwire | heheheh |
| 02:08.28 | hardwire | jitterus bufferus |
| 02:09.29 | lurgy | heh |
| 02:09.48 | hardwire | starband is trying to do something actually |
| 02:09.50 | hardwire | cool |
| 02:09.51 | hardwire | damn enter |
| 02:09.56 | hardwire | damn pinky |
| 02:10.06 | hardwire | they wanna give us ptp starband connections |
| 02:10.16 | hardwire | with the endpoints being both at customer premises |
| 02:10.34 | hardwire | no termination in the lower 48 |
| 02:10.35 | hardwire | kinda nice |
| 02:11.53 | hardwire | anybody got any good RF ideas for dog tracking? |
| 02:12.07 | hardwire | I was aout to strap a GPS and a really simple PSK modem on the dog. |
| 02:12.14 | hardwire | and then somehow recieve that on my Z |
| 02:12.16 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/ (10 files): Added unified call progression to both inbound and outbound routing |
| 02:13.35 | hardwire | with success |
| 02:13.48 | file[laptop] | well I can do it multiple ways... just figuring out the best right now |
| 02:14.39 | file[laptop] | rather nifty really... if our server goes down, phone calls still go through... and when the server comes back up - it's still billed as if nothing happened |
| 02:15.04 | hardwire | say that again? |
| 02:15.22 | file[laptop] | if any gateway goes down, the phone calls currently travelling through it continue to go on |
| 02:15.37 | hardwire | how? |
| 02:15.50 | file[laptop] | our gateways only route messages now |
| 02:15.55 | file[laptop] | the RTP streams are direct to the provider |
| 02:18.13 | hardwire | oh ok |
| 02:18.38 | hardwire | so with call progression at the server side.. their provider server realerts you? |
| 02:18.44 | hardwire | to the time duration? |
| 02:18.51 | file[laptop] | nope, we keep call progression in a database |
| 02:19.07 | hardwire | so how do you know when the rtp terminated? |
| 02:19.13 | hardwire | even if the gateway goes down. |
| 02:19.22 | file[laptop] | when the server comes back up, the SIP message still goes through it |
| 02:19.28 | hardwire | well |
| 02:19.34 | hardwire | if I a on a call when the server fries |
| 02:19.40 | hardwire | and it takes 2 days to bring it back to life |
| 02:19.41 | file[laptop] | if you hang up before the server comes back up - then it won't be charged |
| 02:19.47 | hardwire | do I get charged for 2 days? |
| 02:19.51 | hardwire | ok |
| 02:20.00 | hardwire | so minimal loss |
| 02:20.07 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 02:20.18 | hardwire | sounds easier to attach a Unique ID to the call.. and then query the call status on the server later |
| 02:20.34 | hardwire | that way you can still bill after an outage. |
| 02:20.43 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_routing/ (4 files): |
| 02:20.43 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: Outbound routing does not need a balance check, the check is done when the |
| 02:20.43 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: user authenticates. If no balance exists - then authentication fails! |
| 02:20.54 | file[laptop] | you can't query call status |
| 02:20.57 | *** join/#tacobeam probe[away] (~blackrabi@c-24-9-223-229.client.comcast.net) |
| 02:21.05 | file[laptop] | and each call does have a unique ID, the call id |
| 02:21.12 | hardwire | file[laptop]: but it would be neat if you could ;) |
| 02:21.15 | file[laptop] | ha |
| 02:21.23 | file[laptop] | internally we can |
| 02:21.27 | file[laptop] | once I finish this code |
| 02:21.33 | hardwire | the provider doesn't do CDR? |
| 02:21.37 | hardwire | and give it back to you? |
| 02:21.42 | file[laptop] | at the end of the month yes |
| 02:21.49 | hardwire | so you get all those uid' back |
| 02:21.53 | file[laptop] | no |
| 02:21.56 | file[laptop] | you don't. |
| 02:22.00 | hardwire | anthen.. you sohuld fix that ;) |
| 02:22.11 | file[laptop] | it's not something that can be fixed |
| 02:22.16 | hardwire | sure it is |
| 02:22.17 | file[laptop] | it's their gateways and hardware |
| 02:22.23 | hardwire | you call all your providers and make them listen to you ;) |
| 02:22.31 | file[laptop] | tried that once, didn't work |
| 02:22.34 | hardwire | damn |
| 02:22.37 | hardwire | stup0id monkeys |
| 02:22.43 | file[laptop] | called Peerone this afternoon, that didn't work either |
| 02:22.44 | hardwire | damnit |
| 02:22.51 | file[laptop] | trying to get quality bandwidth on short notice sucks |
| 02:23.02 | hardwire | indeed |
| 02:24.36 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:25.56 | hardwire | looks like we found a 100 meter cat tracker |
| 02:25.59 | hardwire | with a hand held finder |
| 02:26.03 | hardwire | that should work |
| 02:27.13 | hardwire | finding the dog on occasion |
| 02:27.17 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 02:28.02 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_auth/ (call_progress.c call_progress.d call_progress.h authorize.c): |
| 02:28.02 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: We need call progression here too, when a call is approved - start the |
| 02:28.02 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: virtual channel! |
| 02:28.21 | lurgy | scanline: hmm! |
| 02:28.31 | scanline | 4.67 inches it seems |
| 02:28.32 | scanline | shouldn't be bad |
| 02:28.44 | scanline | and it really doesn't need to be that exact for this to work |
| 02:28.55 | scanline | lurgy: want a temperature sensor in your apartment? |
| 02:29.03 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_auth/ (authorize.d call_progress.c): We don't need the routing headers for call progression |
| 02:29.03 | scanline | I should have the parts to build 8 of these total |
| 02:29.21 | lurgy | scanline: sure :) |
| 02:29.30 | hardwire | I should start a bar |
| 02:29.36 | hardwire | call it "GLPWI" |
| 02:29.42 | scanline | cool |
| 02:29.45 | hardwire | Good looking people with issues. |
| 02:29.48 | file[laptop] | erm |
| 02:29.52 | hardwire | call it "GLPSWI" |
| 02:29.56 | hardwire | Good looking single people with issues. |
| 02:30.12 | hardwire | scanline: now what are you building? |
| 02:30.23 | scanline | hardwire: they're just wireless temperature sensors |
| 02:30.31 | hardwire | ah |
| 02:30.35 | hardwire | can I track a dog with it? |
| 02:30.37 | hardwire | ;) |
| 02:30.48 | scanline | you can track a dog's temperature with it |
| 02:30.52 | hardwire | actually.. how much is it going to run to get one made for me :) |
| 02:30.56 | hardwire | and my dog |
| 02:30.58 | hardwire | actually |
| 02:31.00 | hardwire | my friends dog |
| 02:31.11 | scanline | they're about $7 in parts |
| 02:31.11 | hardwire | we want to control a heat lampby the temperature outside in his dog house |
| 02:31.18 | hardwire | but.. by the temp of the dog works better ;) |
| 02:31.21 | hardwire | sweet |
| 02:31.34 | scanline | hmm |
| 02:31.40 | scanline | signal strength is pretty good with no antenna at all |
| 02:31.45 | hardwire | err |
| 02:31.48 | lurgy | :) |
| 02:31.49 | hardwire | what kind of signal is it |
| 02:31.57 | scanline | 315 MHz ASK |
| 02:31.58 | hardwire | transmitting from an a2d? |
| 02:32.01 | hardwire | so digital |
| 02:32.04 | hardwire | hmm |
| 02:32.05 | lurgy | scanline: these are battery-powered, right? |
| 02:32.08 | scanline | lurgy: yeah |
| 02:32.14 | hardwire | can you make one that just happens to read NEMA GPS output? |
| 02:32.17 | lurgy | scanline: so we could find a better place to put one outside? :) |
| 02:32.18 | scanline | lurgy: 9V battery. they also have a voltage sensor |
| 02:32.18 | hardwire | from rs-232 devices ;) |
| 02:32.21 | lurgy | cool |
| 02:32.25 | scanline | lurgy: definitely I'm looking forward to that |
| 02:32.34 | lurgy | yay |
| 02:32.39 | lurgy | we should stick one up in a tree or something |
| 02:32.41 | scanline | lurgy: white box and everything, maybe mount it on the railing outside or to a tree |
| 02:32.45 | scanline | yep |
| 02:32.48 | lurgy | :) |
| 02:33.02 | lurgy | higher is better |
| 02:33.02 | CIA-7 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_auth/ (6 files): Bye bye silly compiler warnings |
| 02:33.05 | scanline | yep |
| 02:33.12 | scanline | they fit easily in an altoids box |
| 02:33.19 | scanline | not much bigger than the 9V battery holder |
| 02:33.24 | lurgy | sweet |
| 02:33.24 | hardwire | scanline: hmm.. |
| 02:33.31 | hardwire | do you have schematics for what you have? |
| 02:33.44 | scanline | hardwire: haven't bothered to draw any up it's so simple |
| 02:33.49 | hardwire | hehe |
| 02:33.54 | scanline | though I should probably do so |
| 02:33.56 | hardwire | well what are you using.. got an inventory online? |
| 02:34.27 | scanline | PIC12F675 micro, TC74 temperature sensor, some low-power 5V regulator from Zetex, an ASK transmitter board from Laipac |
| 02:34.50 | scanline | three resistors, and one capacitor |
| 02:35.02 | lurgy | yay capacitor |
| 02:36.30 | scanline | with a 1/4 wave antenna the range seems to be quite nice |
| 02:36.50 | scanline | I can measure signal strength- with the receiver in my room and transmitter by the window in our living room, it was still 100% |
| 02:37.45 | scanline | oh |
| 02:37.55 | scanline | whoops, forgot to solder the TC74's ground |
| 02:38.00 | scanline | no wonder this was giving me -1 degrees :P |
| 02:38.27 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:38.43 | lurgy | any idea what temperature ranges this thingy can read? |
| 02:39.35 | scanline | looks like -40 to 125 C |
| 02:39.48 | lurgy | yay for preposterously wide ranges |
| 02:39.50 | scanline | accuracy is a bit cheesy, but these are the exact same sensors that http://navi.cx/therm was using |
| 02:39.56 | scanline | so it's not that bad |
| 02:39.56 | lurgy | :) |
| 02:40.25 | hardwire | wow |
| 02:40.28 | hardwire | 434mhz ask |
| 02:40.30 | hardwire | thats neat ;) |
| 02:40.35 | hardwire | what are you using for recieving? |
| 02:40.43 | hardwire | with this thing I could recieve it with a cable box ;) |
| 02:41.26 | file[laptop] | you and your silly cable box |
| 02:41.40 | hardwire | wow |
| 02:41.54 | hardwire | if I could just power the reciever off of my pda |
| 02:42.53 | scanline | hardwire: a matching receiver board from laipac- right now it's plugged into my desktop's serial port and I have a python program decoding packets, but soon I'll have another PIC decoding packets and sending data back to an NSLU2 over USB |
| 02:43.22 | hardwire | power.. can the reciever go off of serial power? |
| 02:43.52 | scanline | probably |
| 02:43.57 | scanline | but I'll have USB power :P |
| 02:44.13 | hardwire | hmm |
| 02:44.16 | hardwire | well.. hmm |
| 02:44.31 | hardwire | I am thinking I should get these boards in |
| 02:44.34 | hardwire | 8mw.. |
| 02:44.35 | hardwire | hm |
| 02:44.37 | hardwire | err |
| 02:44.37 | file[laptop] | scanline makes all sorts of fun gadgets |
| 02:44.38 | hardwire | hmm |
| 02:44.48 | hardwire | I need a ham operators licence. |
| 02:46.02 | ChipX86 | argh it's him again |
| 02:48.34 | lurgy | yay holes |
| 02:49.28 | lurgy | hmm, it looks like they moved the control-center package into gnome-control-center |
| 02:49.30 | scanline | we should also add other sensors to this later, like humidity, pressure, wind... |
| 02:49.33 | lurgy | except that it doesn't work either |
| 02:49.35 | scanline | the protocol should be extensible |
| 02:49.40 | lurgy | sure |
| 02:49.44 | lurgy | though pressure is pretty silly |
| 02:49.49 | scanline | yeah |
| 02:49.57 | lurgy | it will be almost identical for all of them |
| 02:50.00 | scanline | heck, it'd be nice later to make a more accurate temperature sensor ;) |
| 02:50.09 | scanline | maybe with a precision thermistor and a 16-bit A/D |
| 02:50.32 | lurgy | yay for accurate |
| 02:53.03 | ChipX86 | Nat just invited me to dinner |
| 02:53.13 | lurgy | ooh |
| 02:53.26 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: free food! |
| 02:53.35 | lurgy | does Nat live around there? |
| 02:53.42 | ChipX86 | no, but he's in town visiting his sister |
| 02:53.47 | lurgy | cool :) |
| 02:53.50 | ChipX86 | she's actually pretty cool. Had sushi with her and her friends |
| 02:54.25 | ChipX86 | one problem. They're in San Francisco. I have no way of getting there |
| 02:57.22 | lurgy | aw |
| 02:57.29 | lurgy | there are no busses up that way? |
| 02:57.31 | lurgy | or trains? |
| 02:58.34 | lurgy | yay, most of the applets and notification icons and stuff look really good now in gnome 2.9 |
| 02:58.47 | lurgy | against a translucent panel |
| 02:59.01 | lurgy | except gaim's |
| 02:59.03 | lurgy | bad gaim! |
| 02:59.47 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: DDR will solve your problems! |
| 03:00.01 | laodamas | The Star Wars Christmas Album is now in /navi/media/incoming. Listen at your own peril. |
| 03:00.07 | gonkulator | howdy laodamas |
| 03:00.18 | ChipX86 | he seems cool over the phone |
| 03:00.19 | laodamas | hello gonkulator |
| 03:00.20 | ChipX86 | I can't get there htough :/ |
| 03:01.14 | laodamas | Includes the famous What Can You Get A Wookie For Christmas (When He Already Owns A Comb) song |
| 03:01.35 | gonkulator | argh |
| 03:01.37 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:01.48 | gonkulator | there has to be a copy of the Summa Theologica for less than 150 dollars |
| 03:02.17 | lurgy | yikes |
| 03:03.48 | ChipX86 | bah |