| 00:05.07 | darth_mall | Rich |
| 00:05.11 | darth_mall | he says you owe him a pony |
| 00:05.44 | purple_cow | ...i do? |
| 00:06.00 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 00:06.52 | darth_mall | well, we all owe him money, he was dropping off the gas bill |
| 00:10.03 | lurgy | yay pony |
| 00:10.11 | lurgy | mmmmm |
| 00:10.12 | lurgy | soup |
| 00:10.27 | darth_mall | lurgy: do you wanna learn to fence tonight too? |
| 00:10.44 | lurgy | darth_mall: no time =/ |
| 00:10.55 | darth_mall | there's always time for me |
| 00:22.42 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/regs.inc: Init DMA values to FF, thanks Overload |
| 00:30.26 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you ready? |
| 01:01.06 | ChipX86 | yay, Jamie picked up her present and will call me soonish when she goes to open it |
| 01:15.37 | CIA-6 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/cpu/executec.c: Remove executec.c |
| 01:15.48 | file[laptop] | pagefault: you royally screwed up your image |
| 01:16.41 | pagefault | :/ |
| 01:17.00 | file[laptop] | I restored the critical files and it's still toast |
| 01:18.21 | pagefault | crap |
| 01:18.24 | pagefault | just nuke the image then |
| 01:18.31 | file[laptop] | k |
| 01:18.49 | pagefault | did you ever locate a gentoo disk image? |
| 01:18.55 | file[laptop] | lemme look now |
| 01:19.06 | pagefault | thanks |
| 01:19.08 | pagefault | I wanted to use bugzilla |
| 01:19.14 | pagefault | and debian is very not compatible with it |
| 01:20.27 | file[laptop] | how about slackware? |
| 01:21.00 | pagefault | thats good |
| 01:21.04 | pagefault | I can maintain that |
| 01:21.13 | file[laptop] | mandrake too... rh9... |
| 01:21.23 | pagefault | eww not rh9 |
| 01:21.37 | file[laptop] | ...nah |
| 01:21.41 | pagefault | haha |
| 01:21.43 | file[laptop] | 8.1 okay? |
| 01:21.53 | pagefault | wow thats old |
| 01:22.04 | file[laptop] | well it's not like it's easy to find images :) |
| 01:22.39 | pagefault | http://www.omote.com/gentoo/install-in-uml.html |
| 01:22.39 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:22.44 | pagefault | I never found that page before |
| 01:22.48 | pagefault | maybe install slackware |
| 01:22.50 | pagefault | and I go from there |
| 01:22.52 | file[laptop] | I can give you root access to the actual box |
| 01:23.47 | file[laptop] | how'sa 'bout that? |
| 01:23.49 | kergoth | whew |
| 01:24.00 | file[laptop] | then you can do whatever you want to your image |
| 01:24.00 | kergoth | yay for finally getting a hair cut after months |
| 01:24.33 | pagefault | one sec |
| 01:24.35 | pagefault | speed reading |
| 01:24.38 | file[laptop] | otay |
| 01:25.24 | pagefault | yeah |
| 01:25.27 | pagefault | just install slackware |
| 01:25.32 | pagefault | and I will use this |
| 01:25.36 | file[laptop] | okay... good luck |
| 01:25.43 | pagefault | but keep the image handy in case I screw something over royally |
| 01:25.45 | pagefault | :) |
| 01:25.52 | file[laptop] | I keep master images of 'em all |
| 01:26.16 | pagefault | I suppose I could just install the new slack though |
| 01:26.21 | pagefault | it offers an upgrade mode |
| 01:26.28 | file[laptop] | well it's your image |
| 01:26.31 | pagefault | yep |
| 01:26.43 | file[laptop] | how much space do you want? |
| 01:26.55 | pagefault | how much can I get :) |
| 01:27.04 | file[laptop] | well, lemme see how much this bunzips to... |
| 01:27.06 | pagefault | or rather |
| 01:27.08 | pagefault | how big is the image |
| 01:27.35 | file[laptop] | 201MB |
| 01:28.01 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:28.07 | file[laptop] | let's see if it can handle a 2.6 kernel |
| 01:28.11 | pagefault | I doubt it |
| 01:28.27 | file[laptop] | it worked |
| 01:28.32 | pagefault | amazign |
| 01:28.42 | pagefault | 3gb would be more than enough if you can give me that much |
| 01:28.45 | file[laptop] | sure |
| 01:28.49 | scanline | thespomat! |
| 01:28.59 | file[laptop] | lemme do this... |
| 01:29.04 | file[laptop] | it's surprisingly faster then the Debian image |
| 01:29.17 | kergoth | nullpuppy: what was the order again, the cider then guiness, or the other way around? i always forget |
| 01:29.26 | nullpuppy | kergoth: yeah |
| 01:29.44 | nullpuppy | cider then slowly pour the guiness in over a spoon to layer it |
| 01:30.05 | kergoth | samy and i need to get off our asses and get that drink db rollinmg |
| 01:30.10 | pagefault | cool |
| 01:30.12 | pagefault | file is awesome |
| 01:30.14 | kergoth | but shit, i barely have enough time for the existing projects :\ |
| 01:30.34 | file[laptop] | pagefault: where do I set your IP in this |
| 01:30.35 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hehe, yeah |
| 01:31.08 | kergoth | i just spent $250 on a pair of sunglasses |
| 01:31.21 | pagefault | uhhhhhuhhh |
| 01:31.43 | pagefault | I forget in slackware 8 |
| 01:31.46 | pagefault | it's like |
| 01:31.47 | pagefault | netsetup |
| 01:31.49 | pagefault | or something |
| 01:31.56 | kergoth | the last pair i had was $200, and they lasted me a few years, before i lost the fucking things |
| 01:32.01 | pagefault | netconfig |
| 01:32.04 | pagefault | something like that |
| 01:32.14 | kergoth | why slackware? |
| 01:32.21 | kergoth | i just have to ask |
| 01:32.22 | pagefault | it won't be slackware for long |
| 01:32.29 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:32.35 | pagefault | just something that boots |
| 01:32.38 | file[laptop] | did I give you 91? |
| 01:32.39 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 01:32.51 | file[laptop] | yeah I did... |
| 01:33.13 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:33.17 | pagefault | should still be netsetup |
| 01:33.21 | pagefault | or setup |
| 01:34.15 | file[laptop] | yeah I got it |
| 01:34.23 | file[laptop] | netconfig... |
| 01:34.27 | pagefault | oh |
| 01:34.30 | file[laptop] | I have to do some more things too... |
| 01:34.30 | pagefault | I knew it was something like that |
| 01:34.38 | pagefault | been so long since I used slackware |
| 01:34.48 | file[laptop] | well, it can ping google now |
| 01:35.58 | file[laptop] | resizing... |
| 01:36.32 | file[laptop] | 2.7GB available on / |
| 01:36.38 | file[laptop] | what next... |
| 01:36.38 | file[laptop] | ah yes |
| 01:39.11 | file[laptop] | I only have 14GB available on this... |
| 01:39.27 | file[laptop] | oh well |
| 01:40.11 | pagefault | ah well gentoo will be easy with these tested instructions (I hope) |
| 01:40.23 | rioter | why do people ask my advice if there just going to do the exact oposite of what i say |
| 01:40.45 | file[laptop] | almost have it ready for you pagefault |
| 01:40.49 | pagefault | thanks file |
| 01:40.57 | file[laptop] | I added some stuff so your Gentoo install should be easier |
| 01:41.12 | pagefault | cool |
| 01:41.19 | pagefault | so have you been snowed in all week? |
| 01:41.33 | file[laptop] | yeah tons here |
| 01:41.48 | pagefault | sucks |
| 01:42.35 | file[laptop] | pagefault: there you go |
| 01:42.43 | pagefault | wee |
| 01:42.44 | pagefault | fun time |
| 01:43.04 | file[laptop] | that's running a 2.6.9 kernel btw |
| 01:43.13 | pagefault | amazing |
| 01:43.19 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~xcd@212.76.88.65) |
| 01:44.06 | file[laptop] | now, where did my space go... |
| 01:44.50 | file[laptop] | you're stuck with that kernel btw |
| 01:45.19 | pagefault | thats fine |
| 01:45.42 | pagefault | I know I can't change it :) |
| 01:45.45 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 01:46.20 | pagefault | oops |
| 01:46.24 | pagefault | no root password set |
| 01:46.36 | file[laptop] | set one yourself. |
| 01:46.41 | pagefault | already did |
| 01:46.54 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 01:47.33 | pagefault | well at least it comes with ftp |
| 01:47.39 | pagefault | because it doesn't have much else :) |
| 01:48.26 | file[laptop] | and still it's 200MB+ |
| 01:48.58 | pagefault | strange |
| 01:49.12 | file[laptop] | strange? I don't like that word |
| 01:49.27 | pagefault | potato |
| 01:49.35 | file[laptop] | excellent |
| 01:49.46 | pagefault | :) |
| 01:56.32 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:56.34 | pagefault | this sucks |
| 01:56.43 | ChipX86 | she loved the present :) |
| 01:56.46 | pagefault | wait nm |
| 01:57.34 | file | pagefault: did you break it already? |
| 01:57.34 | kergoth | hmm, i should eat something |
| 01:57.40 | pagefault | file, no but ftp is broken |
| 01:57.46 | pagefault | so I will need to manually sftp the packages I need |
| 01:57.51 | file | pagefault: no wget? |
| 01:57.54 | pagefault | nope |
| 01:58.00 | file | how about fetch? |
| 01:58.06 | pagefault | nope |
| 01:58.11 | file | how evil |
| 01:58.41 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 01:58.44 | kergoth | ramen sounds good |
| 01:58.52 | file | kergoth: nooo pizza! |
| 01:59.03 | kergoth | nooo, i eat pizza wayyyyyy too often |
| 01:59.12 | file | no, you want pizza |
| 01:59.17 | file | you *crave* pizza |
| 01:59.23 | file | you must have pizza |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r833 10mck/PyMCK/ (Observable.py Test/test_observable.py): Implement an attachStates() that does for Observable.State what attachEvents() does for Observable.Event. It makes it easy to transparently wrap state transition functions. |
| 02:04.15 | hardwire | ok |
| 02:04.17 | hardwire | fuck debootstrap |
| 02:04.32 | hardwire | using qemu and a sarge netinst cd on the pcmcia card works just fine. |
| 02:04.41 | hardwire | better.. actually. |
| 02:09.19 | CIA-6 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10vc_auth/ (5 files): Maintain a connection for bringing up the user structure |
| 02:09.58 | ChipX86 | "Questions? Comments? Giant alien squids sucking out your brains and need assistance? E-mail me!" |
| 02:11.16 | pagefault | yay |
| 02:11.16 | pagefault | wget |
| 02:14.07 | pagefault | hrm |
| 02:14.11 | pagefault | ==> PORT ... |
| 02:14.11 | pagefault | Invalid PORT. |
| 02:14.11 | pagefault | Retrying. |
| 02:14.15 | pagefault | any idea what that is about? |
| 02:14.27 | pagefault | ftp gave me that and so does wget |
| 02:15.26 | file | oh, it's the server's end |
| 02:17.45 | pagefault | are you sure this is slack 9.1? |
| 02:18.26 | file | I said 8.1 |
| 02:18.33 | pagefault | doh |
| 02:20.02 | pagefault | thats better |
| 02:21.09 | Samy | file, 0.0 |
| 02:21.41 | file | eek |
| 02:22.14 | Samy | haha |
| 02:22.56 | pagefault | there |
| 02:22.59 | pagefault | things work now :) |
| 02:23.03 | pagefault | installed package from 9.1 |
| 02:23.37 | pagefault | wow |
| 02:23.40 | pagefault | fast download of livecd |
| 02:24.07 | file | go for New York servers |
| 02:24.10 | file | as the box is in NYC |
| 02:30.45 | ChipX86 | hah! |
| 02:30.59 | ChipX86 | if you search for Galacy, I'm #4. |
| 02:31.04 | ChipX86 | #1 for Galacy Scam |
| 02:31.15 | ChipX86 | #1 for Integratel Scam |
| 02:31.16 | file | haha |
| 02:31.28 | ChipX86 | explains why people are now commenting |
| 02:41.01 | kergoth | mm, hard cider |
| 02:41.24 | nullpuppy | mmm indeed |
| 02:41.35 | nullpuppy | what cider do you have? |
| 02:46.48 | pagefault | argh |
| 02:46.51 | pagefault | now I need to install gcc |
| 02:46.54 | pagefault | bleh |
| 02:47.00 | pagefault | stupid gentoo installation |
| 02:47.27 | ChipX86 | what's the php tag for the domain? |
| 02:47.45 | ChipX86 | er, not tag, but variable |
| 02:48.18 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 02:49.58 | pagefault | the nextplease extension in firefox rules so much |
| 02:53.06 | ChipX86 | very hungry |
| 02:54.24 | ChipX86 | not sure I want pizza again.. or if I do, I don't think I want the same pizza I always get |
| 02:55.00 | file[laptop] | mmmm pizza |
| 02:55.09 | darth_mall | yay illegal pete's |
| 03:01.21 | ChipX86 | screw it. Pizza. |
| 03:01.33 | darth_mall | ChipX86: mexican! |
| 03:01.38 | rioter | thai! |
| 03:01.40 | kergoth | hrm |
| 03:01.47 | kergoth | i cant get cupsaddsmb to authenticate |
| 03:01.47 | darth_mall | or thai |
| 03:01.54 | kergoth | anyone here setup cups printing via samba? |
| 03:02.54 | ChipX86 | okayyyy |
| 03:03.07 | ChipX86 | I don't know if they're delivering it, or if I'm picking it up, or what the price is |
| 03:03.13 | ChipX86 | that went weird. |
| 03:03.22 | darth_mall | lol |
| 03:03.38 | ChipX86 | 10 mins |
| 03:04.43 | kergoth | .. |
| 03:04.47 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file_lapt@mctn1-1640.nb.aliant.net) |
| 03:13.37 | kergoth | damn you cups and samba |
| 03:13.40 | kergoth | DAMN YOU |
| 03:13.45 | darth_mall | and also moo |
| 03:13.49 | kergoth | they work well seperately |
| 03:13.52 | kergoth | but together, they hate me :( |
| 03:15.31 | darth_mall | kergoth: I don't hate you |
| 03:16.44 | kergoth | (21:14:24) Dad: check this out, even gov web sites have banker hours |
| 03:16.45 | kergoth | (21:14:28) Dad: https://www1.uimn.org/UITIP_Web/applicant/register/initialRegistration/preliminaryInformation.do |
| 03:16.56 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:17.23 | purple_cow | hurray for the story of the grasshopper and the octopus |
| 03:17.23 | kergoth | grr |
| 03:17.24 | kergoth | i want to be able to print from my laptop, damnit |
| 03:18.24 | kergoth | [2005/01/16 03:13:32, 0] rpc_server/srv_pipe_hnd.c:process_request_pdu(584) |
| 03:18.24 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.25 | kergoth | okay |
| 03:18.29 | kergoth | that looks like its the problem |
| 03:18.32 | kergoth | whatever the hell that means |
| 03:19.08 | kergoth | hmm, rpc |
| 03:19.15 | kergoth | wonder if it needs portmap or something |
| 03:20.37 | kergoth | it helps to pay attention to dates |
| 03:20.41 | kergoth | ~lart kergoth |
| 03:20.45 | kergoth | so i have no idea |
| 03:20.46 | kergoth | grr |
| 03:21.50 | merlin262 | i've determined that i suck at geometry |
| 03:22.15 | darth_mall | geometry's great, squares are points, circles aren't |
| 03:22.24 | darth_mall | rather... s/squares/triangles/ |
| 03:22.35 | darth_mall | all other shapes are inferior forms of one of the above |
| 03:22.53 | merlin262 | rhm. |
| 03:23.19 | merlin262 | ~lart merlin262 |
| 03:23.33 | merlin262 | ~lart merlin262 |
| 03:23.49 | merlin262 | ~lart merlin262 |
| 03:25.39 | purple_cow | kergoth: why can't you just use ipp rather than smb? |
| 03:29.11 | kergoth | probably can, how do i do that? :) |
| 03:30.31 | purple_cow | run cups on the machine attached to the printer... |
| 03:30.39 | kergoth | it is. |
| 03:30.50 | kergoth | i mean from windows, how exactly do i print to an ipp printer? |
| 03:30.57 | purple_cow | oh |
| 03:31.29 | rioter | start -> printers and faxes -> add printer |
| 03:31.40 | rioter | and follow the prompts, anything post 2k will have ipp drivers |
| 03:32.06 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:32.27 | kergoth | "follow the prompts" didnt tell me to add the printer as http://mybox:631/printers/<printername> |
| 03:32.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:33.29 | rioter | the real challenge is to get windows ME to print to a ipp printer |
| 03:33.45 | rioter | even with microsofts drivers :) |
| 03:34.35 | *** join/#tacobeam eviloverlord (~eviloverl@ec237-215-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 03:34.39 | kergoth | gah |
| 03:34.44 | kergoth | it says i dont have access to the printer |
| 03:34.52 | kergoth | which is bullshit, i'm at it in a web browser as that user as we speak |
| 03:34.58 | kergoth | unless that only works from localhost |
| 03:35.06 | darth_mall | human horn |
| 03:35.09 | darth_mall | rar |
| 03:35.19 | kergoth | ah, indeed, it is localhost only |
| 03:35.41 | ChipX86 | vector graphics is fun |
| 03:35.44 | ChipX86 | I hated it 3 days ago |
| 03:35.48 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 03:36.43 | *** part/#tacobeam eviloverlord (~eviloverl@ec237-215-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 03:39.38 | purple_cow | the main event is downstairs, so to speak. you know, by the wallet? |
| 03:40.51 | kergoth | purple_cow: thanks for the suggestion, ipp works fine |
| 03:40.57 | kergoth | would be good to figure out why smb doesnt work though |
| 03:40.59 | kergoth | stupid thing |
| 03:41.04 | darth_mall | pff |
| 03:47.32 | pagefault | eww |
| 03:50.01 | kergoth | hrm, i'm running out of toner, apparently |
| 03:50.02 | kergoth | gr |
| 03:53.09 | purple_cow | safeway tonight anyone? |
| 03:53.46 | darth_mall | nope |
| 03:54.41 | lurgy | mebbe |
| 03:54.59 | lurgy | dunno if i'm up for walking that far, we'll see.. when were you planning on heading off? |
| 03:55.36 | purple_cow | dunno |
| 03:59.41 | kergoth | whats that called when a printer can print on both sides of the paper itself? |
| 03:59.44 | kergoth | i cant remember the word |
| 03:59.49 | purple_cow | duplex |
| 03:59.52 | kergoth | ah right |
| 03:59.53 | kergoth | thanks |
| 04:00.10 | kergoth | i wonder if there's a b&w laser w/ duplex thats relatively inexpensive |
| 04:03.38 | ChipX86 | huh. Inkscape has a location entry in their file open dialog |
| 04:08.16 | kergoth | hmm, samsung has a color laser with duplex for around $400 |
| 04:08.28 | kergoth | cant beleive they've come down that far in price |
| 04:08.34 | merlin262 | kergoth, don't know about w/ a duplexer, but they definately have b&w for cheap |
| 04:08.40 | kergoth | i know, i own one |
| 04:08.47 | kergoth | hp laserjet 1012 |
| 04:08.53 | kergoth | but i'd really like duplexing :) |
| 04:08.58 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 04:09.00 | kergoth | i print a lot of b&w documentation and stuff |
| 04:09.05 | kergoth | reference materials, articles, etc |
| 04:12.20 | purple_cow | silly kergoth and his primitive documentation formats |
| 04:12.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:12.36 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:14.21 | purple_cow | ``thanks to the internet, i'm now bored with sex!'' |
| 04:14.28 | kergoth | .. |
| 04:20.00 | ChipX86 | inkscape needs to support blur filters :/ |
| 04:21.07 | kergoth | i saw a note on that. something about inkscape not supporting svg gaussian blur filters yet. do they have a timeline on that? |
| 04:21.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:21.16 | ChipX86 | yeah, 1.0 |
| 04:21.33 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:24.09 | darth_mall | oooooooooooooooooooooorphanarium |
| 04:24.37 | kergoth | oh, is that new cd you got of oingo boingo on navi atm? |
| 04:24.45 | purple_cow | yup |
| 04:25.05 | kergoth | will grab it and check it out |
| 04:25.06 | darth_mall | pff |
| 04:25.08 | darth_mall | it's good |
| 04:25.12 | kergoth | anything else new worth grabbing? |
| 04:25.20 | darth_mall | bowling bowling bowling parking parking |
| 04:25.21 | kergoth | and are there any outstanding ubernet requests? |
| 04:25.33 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 04:25.40 | darth_mall | I'll get the Mark, Tom, And Travis Show up soon |
| 04:25.52 | kergoth | speaking of ubernet, i dont think that album you wanted ever completed |
| 04:26.10 | purple_cow | kergoth: /navi/tmp/ubernet-download-queue |
| 04:26.17 | purple_cow | ^^ |
| 04:26.18 | kergoth | nope, dresdel dolls didnt finish. half way done |
| 04:26.45 | ChipX86 | yay for making a bunch of svg icons for vmware |
| 04:28.17 | kergoth | 2 users with our missing songs from dresden dolls |
| 04:28.22 | kergoth | on the queue to download |
| 04:28.38 | kergoth | er |
| 04:30.33 | ChipX86 | my PC was shipped :D |
| 04:30.58 | file[laptop] | hrm |
| 04:32.12 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r834 10mck/PyMCK/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:32.12 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: Several random restructurings, moving this closer to what I'd like it to be. The |
| 04:32.12 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: Micronet bus master now has its own 'initialized' state, and we have a tree data |
| 04:32.12 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: type storing all devices in a way that's easy to access from the flight software |
| 04:32.13 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: or over the wire from elsewhere. Started redefining the scope of the Sensor |
| 04:32.13 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: module. |
| 04:32.40 | kergoth | why do i always lose my bottle opener? |
| 04:32.48 | kergoth | always. especially when i have a beer to open |
| 04:32.50 | nullpuppy | kergoth: you have that problem too? |
| 04:32.57 | purple_cow | ``i've never been good with words, which is why i'm in such a delicate conundrum'' |
| 04:32.58 | nullpuppy | i hate that |
| 04:32.59 | kergoth | i dunno where it goes |
| 04:33.03 | kergoth | grr |
| 04:33.16 | kergoth | ah ha! |
| 04:33.18 | kergoth | i found it |
| 04:33.20 | kergoth | next to my monitor |
| 04:33.23 | kergoth | what a good place for it |
| 04:33.23 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 04:33.25 | nullpuppy | hehe, yeah |
| 04:33.42 | nullpuppy | hmm.. speaking of stuff being mailed.... /me gently prods scanline |
| 04:33.49 | kergoth | mmm, guinness |
| 04:37.36 | ChipX86 | grrrr |
| 04:43.03 | merlin262 | ChipX86, ??? |
| 04:43.41 | nullpuppy | kergoth: what brand of cider are you drinking tonight btw? |
| 04:43.50 | kergoth | nullpuppy: hornsby's, non draft |
| 04:43.53 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 04:44.05 | nullpuppy | ah, ok :) |
| 04:44.10 | nullpuppy | same stuff i have then :) |
| 04:44.33 | kergoth | i've tried a few others before, but this is the best i've had to date |
| 04:44.46 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 04:45.00 | nullpuppy | only other stuff i've tried is spire (and the draft hornsby) |
| 04:46.13 | kergoth | i've tried.. K, and a couple others i cant remember the names of |
| 04:46.19 | kergoth | never tried spire |
| 04:47.26 | purple_cow | hmm? |
| 04:47.33 | merlin262 | ChipX86, what's up? |
| 04:47.34 | ChipX86 | I want to inline an svg and have everything just work |
| 04:47.56 | ChipX86 | using gdk-pixbuf-csource |
| 04:48.04 | purple_cow | err... |
| 04:48.47 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 04:49.11 | purple_cow | ignore me |
| 04:50.21 | kergoth | speaking of which, did i ever upload my juno reactor to navi? |
| 04:50.23 | kergoth | i think i forgot |
| 04:50.37 | purple_cow | no |
| 04:50.42 | kergoth | k |
| 04:50.45 | darth_mall | baaaaaaaaaaad kergoth |
| 04:50.50 | darth_mall | but I forgive you |
| 04:51.05 | kergoth | er |
| 04:51.06 | kergoth | dresden |
| 04:51.08 | kergoth | damn fingers |
| 04:51.14 | purple_cow | kergoth: i highly reccomend the couple videos on navi :) |
| 04:51.17 | darth_mall | damn your fingers! damn them to hell! |
| 04:51.21 | kergoth | darth_mall: indeed |
| 04:52.27 | purple_cow | how is it that futurama is so clever? |
| 04:52.30 | kergoth | k, juno reactor on the way |
| 04:52.32 | darth_mall | mooooooooo |
| 04:53.08 | kergoth | i love it when my cable actually doesnt suck. uploading at between 40 and 60 K/s |
| 04:53.25 | nullpuppy | oooh, nice |
| 04:55.38 | kergoth | woot, the rest of that dresden dolls album is finally downloading |
| 04:55.46 | kergoth | surprised i got a slot on the guy's box that quickly |
| 04:55.56 | kergoth | that user has just about _everything_. his machine is highly in demand |
| 04:56.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:57.00 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 04:57.09 | darth_mall | that woulda been far cooler than how I spent it |
| 05:02.51 | darth_mall | hi slimspace |
| 05:03.01 | slimspace | hey darth_mall |
| 05:03.02 | kergoth | mm, i'm really taking a liking to dresden dolls |
| 05:03.08 | kergoth | i should buy this, actually |
| 05:03.17 | darth_mall | buy what now? |
| 05:03.40 | kergoth | dresden dolls |
| 05:03.40 | kergoth | cd |
| 05:03.44 | kergoth | the one i'm downloading |
| 05:03.48 | darth_mall | who in the what now |
| 05:05.11 | purple_cow | kergoth: there's a reason i love jwz's yearly music roundups :) |
| 05:05.16 | purple_cow | he had the epoxies on there too =D |
| 05:05.22 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:08.17 | kergoth | speaking of which, i havent listened to the epoxies in far too long |
| 05:20.00 | kergoth | note to self: guinness aftertaste doesnt combine well with roast beef flavored ramen |
| 05:20.35 | rioter | mmm |
| 05:20.37 | rioter | it wouldnt |
| 05:33.25 | darth_mall | man I'm bored |
| 05:34.09 | kergoth | me too. i should play a game |
| 05:34.13 | kergoth | or watch family guy |
| 05:34.15 | kergoth | or something |
| 05:34.48 | kergoth | http://www.northernsun.com/ns/images/thumb/5372CannibalsAgree.jpg .. |
| 05:39.20 | darth_mall | bleeeeeeeeeeeeh |
| 05:39.21 | ChipX86 | hah, today's slashdot poll is quite funny, because it's true |
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| 05:42.40 | darth_mall | yay slimspace |
| 05:43.30 | slimspace | scanline: was that last commit the design you had in mind, minus the sensor fixes? |
| 05:45.56 | darth_mall | plus some coffee, divided the mass of God raised to the ln of pi/0 |
| 05:46.15 | darth_mall | s/divided/divided by/ |
| 05:46.40 | kergoth | mm, coffee |
| 05:47.50 | scanline | slimspace: minus a lot of random things |
| 05:47.56 | scanline | slimspace: working on sensors now |
| 05:52.02 | slimspace | scanline: cool. Now that the implementation is finished, it makes much more sense to me looking at it. |
| 05:52.34 | scanline | eh.. not finished |
| 05:52.37 | scanline | but I'm glad it helps |
| 05:52.44 | slimspace | what else does it need? |
| 05:52.57 | darth_mall | a little jelly |
| 05:53.42 | scanline | slimspace: are you looking at the Cx.Hardware.Satellite stuff? I think that is mostly the way I want it, but it needs cleanup and cruft-removal |
| 05:54.14 | scanline | slimspace: the only hardware I've changed is the micronet bus master |
| 05:54.33 | scanline | so several other things probably need attachEvent lovin' |
| 05:54.48 | scanline | er, attachState |
| 05:55.49 | scanline | slimspace: this doesn't work yet, but I might as well commit the sensor code so you can see what I have |
| 05:56.20 | scanline | oh wait, I haven't committed the changes to Cx.Hardware that I made |
| 05:56.53 | slimspace | cool |
| 05:57.05 | darth_mall | purple_cow: glad you approve |
| 05:57.07 | slimspace | In the Micronet.Master code, I'm getting an error, QUIET not defined in __init__ |
| 05:57.17 | scanline | slimspace: ok, committed. Look at the top of mck/Cx/Hardware/Satellite.py |
| 05:57.20 | scanline | the rest hasn't been changed |
| 05:57.26 | scanline | also, the sensor code is now different |
| 05:57.37 | ChipX86 | does anyone know of a tool that creates an inline .c or .h file of another file? |
| 05:57.43 | scanline | no central sensor scanner, just a few different types of sensor readers that poll differently |
| 05:58.09 | scanline | there's one that polls at fixed intervals, and one that shares a resource scheduler with other sensor readers depending on what you identify as that sensor's bottleneck |
| 05:58.21 | slimspace | ah, cool |
| 05:58.59 | scanline | there's really no reason for a central scheduler, since that assumes all the sensors rely on the same resources |
| 05:59.15 | scanline | we'd end up with most sensors waiting in the micronet scheduler, but some (disk space, CPU load...) woudln't need to |
| 05:59.27 | darth_mall | macgyver owns you scanline |
| 05:59.35 | scanline | yep |
| 05:59.35 | darth_mall | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.42 | slimspace | scanline: agreed |
| 05:59.47 | darth_mall | boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooored |
| 05:59.52 | scanline | ooh, this is going to be another episode of the motorized-archaeology genre |
| 05:59.59 | slimspace | scanline: In the Micronet.Master code, I'm getting an error, QUIET not defined in __init__ |
| 06:00.02 | darth_mall | oooh... with light pumps? |
| 06:00.13 | scanline | slimspace: I haven't tried to run any of this yet :P |
| 06:00.24 | slimspace | I'm sure not, but just so you're aware. |
| 06:00.36 | scanline | oh |
| 06:00.43 | scanline | somehow those constants got moved |
| 06:00.48 | scanline | they're supposed to be module-level, not class-level |
| 06:01.07 | slimspace | ah |
| 06:01.23 | darth_mall | dmkddkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkddkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkddkdkddkdkdkddkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkmkdkdkdkdkdkdddd |
| 06:01.44 | purple_cow | darth_mall: you could fix xchat searching ;) |
| 06:01.55 | darth_mall | that requires doing something |
| 06:02.00 | darth_mall | plus I dont wanna |
| 06:02.32 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:03.30 | purple_cow | hmm, that was sillly |
| 06:03.34 | purple_cow | at least they weren't motorized |
| 06:04.28 | darth_mall | I'm made of motors |
| 06:04.30 | darth_mall | that's how I move |
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| 06:07.13 | zak | the fuuuuun has arrived |
| 06:07.19 | zak | or something has anyways |
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| 06:07.37 | rioter | mmm i would have thought it was fuuuun but sure |
| 06:07.40 | darth_mall | is it safe? |
| 06:07.49 | zak | boo! |
| 06:07.52 | lurgy | well that was strange |
| 06:08.05 | random_girl | can i use your phone? |
| 06:08.12 | darth_mall | random_girl: hey, how you doin'? |
| 06:08.12 | zak | hehe |
| 06:08.15 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 06:08.18 | zak | we had a visitor |
| 06:08.23 | zak | we didn't know her |
| 06:08.26 | zak | she was a girl |
| 06:08.30 | zak | and she wanted a phone |
| 06:08.44 | rioter | did you give it to her/ |
| 06:08.48 | lurgy | yeah |
| 06:08.50 | lurgy | we gave her 4 |
| 06:08.52 | darth_mall | I'll bet he did ;) |
| 06:08.55 | lurgy | and none of them worked |
| 06:08.57 | zak | an then she took it and left |
| 06:08.59 | zak | jk |
| 06:09.07 | slimspace | scanline: sweet, this stuff works perfectly |
| 06:09.09 | darth_mall | wow lurgy, 4 times? |
| 06:09.12 | darth_mall | you go |
| 06:09.12 | zak | hmm. that's healthy sounding |
| 06:09.13 | darth_mall | wooo |
| 06:09.19 | lurgy | uhhuh |
| 06:09.21 | rioter | memory lane by elliott smith is quiet possibly the worlds greatest song behind civil war by gnr |
| 06:09.25 | darth_mall | lurgy: you're such a ladykiller |
| 06:09.33 | lurgy | shucks |
| 06:09.42 | zak | lol |
| 06:09.52 | lurgy | she was kinda cute too |
| 06:09.54 | darth_mall | lurgy: you should teach me |
| 06:09.54 | lurgy | =p |
| 06:10.22 | darth_mall | <bender> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:11.43 | scanline | slimspace: you're joking |
| 06:12.17 | zak | egads |
| 06:12.24 | kergoth | ~emulate bender |
| 06:12.25 | jbot | Bite my shiny, metal ass! |
| 06:12.26 | zak | abandon all hope, YOU who enter here? |
| 06:12.29 | zak | it's ye |
| 06:12.35 | darth_mall | moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:12.36 | slimspace | scanline: I had to make a couple of module changes and change around a few things, but it works |
| 06:12.52 | slimspace | I also added the Observable sweetness into CriticalDecoder.py |
| 06:13.39 | lurgy | 14! |
| 06:13.42 | slimspace | zak: getting sweeter by the minute |
| 06:13.50 | darth_mall | moo |
| 06:13.55 | lurgy | is the sweetness accelerating? |
| 06:14.02 | slimspace | lurgy: indeed it is |
| 06:14.03 | zak | slimspace: bringing honey into the clean room was a bad idear |
| 06:14.19 | zak | tendra will be all sad |
| 06:14.22 | slimspace | zak: we didn't use honey |
| 06:14.29 | zak | sugar packets? |
| 06:14.36 | slimspace | we used powdered sugar |
| 06:14.40 | darth_mall | fleas |
| 06:14.58 | slimspace | darth_mall: are you...sane? |
| 06:15.03 | scanline | slimspace: I still haven't hit criticaldecoder.py with the refactoring stick ;) |
| 06:15.10 | darth_mall | slimspace: am I ever? |
| 06:15.16 | darth_mall | this is one of those nights |
| 06:15.23 | slimspace | darth_mall: you seem a bit more now than usual |
| 06:15.32 | slimspace | scanline: cool. What does it need? |
| 06:15.46 | scanline | slimspace: I want some base classes for functionality that lots of mnet devices will need |
| 06:15.50 | darth_mall | slimspace: yeah, it's one of those nights |
| 06:16.28 | scanline | slimspace: a sensor reader that gets sendall results, a non-micro-specific relay class, and a pinger would be good at least |
| 06:16.51 | purple_cow | woobwoobwoobwoob |
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| 06:17.19 | scanline | slimspace: there's nothing there yet, but it's what I was intending PyMCK.Hardware.Micronet.Entity for |
| 06:17.49 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r837 10mck/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added some Observable.State sweetness into CriticalDecoder, fixed some modules to actually work with the new system. |
| 06:17.54 | rioter | mmmm |
| 06:18.08 | slimspace | scanline: very cool |
| 06:18.17 | rioter | didnt know microsoft shipped a tool to create c# classes from xml schema's |
| 06:18.20 | rioter | that woul have saved me so much time |
| 06:19.40 | scanline | slimspace: a little late for that? |
| 06:19.47 | scanline | slimspace: er, nm, my laptop clock is wrong |
| 06:19.57 | scanline | er |
| 06:20.03 | scanline | nm, my mental calendar is wrong |
| 06:22.43 | darth_mall | scanline is coffee |
| 06:28.12 | darth_mall | slimspace: I have glaucoma! |
| 06:28.16 | darth_mall | and it's complicated |
| 06:28.23 | darth_mall | it's advanced |
| 06:28.27 | darth_mall | very advanced |
| 06:28.38 | darth_mall | it's like filling up a tunnel with too many balloons |
| 06:28.49 | kergoth | oh, that juno reactor finished |
| 06:29.03 | kergoth | if someone wants to tag/name/sort it |
| 06:29.09 | darth_mall | naw |
| 06:29.10 | slimspace | scanline: I forgot to fill out the sheet yesterday, so today was up |
| 06:29.13 | darth_mall | tagging's for suckers |
| 06:29.23 | slimspace | anywho, I'm out. gnight all |
| 06:29.44 | slimspace | darth_mall: I'm not ignoring you, just not responding. |
| 06:29.46 | slimspace | :) |
| 06:29.47 | darth_mall | right |
| 06:29.49 | darth_mall | ignoring |
| 06:29.54 | darth_mall | rar |
| 06:29.58 | darth_mall | rer |
| 06:30.06 | slimspace | anywho, gotta go. bye everyone |
| 06:30.15 | darth_mall | bye |
| 06:31.02 | darth_mall | (16:30:33) SilmetheBard: are you gonna entertain me? |
| 06:31.02 | darth_mall | (16:30:37) Jess Lee: are you commander worf |
| 06:31.17 | darth_mall | what a strange night |
| 06:31.24 | kergoth | yay strange. |
| 06:32.08 | darth_mall | (16:31:38) SilmetheBard: why am I worf? |
| 06:32.08 | darth_mall | (16:31:44) Jess Lee: dunno |
| 06:32.08 | darth_mall | (16:31:54) Jess Lee: it was on a physics problem |
| 06:32.08 | darth_mall | (16:31:59) SilmetheBard: I'd rather be Data, he's fully functional and anatomically correct |
| 06:32.20 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:32.23 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 06:33.40 | purple_cow | wow i'm good |
| 06:34.02 | purple_cow | guy on another server started playing "guess that price" on remarketed sgi stuff |
| 06:37.52 | rioter | lies! i saw it all! |
| 06:39.21 | purple_cow | rioter: hehe |
| 06:39.32 | purple_cow | rioter: i'll bet you did |
| 06:40.39 | darth_mall | pooooooooooooooo |
| 06:44.06 | darth_mall | ~dict floofy |
| 06:44.18 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 06:44.26 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 06:45.55 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 06:47.15 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 06:49.48 | kergoth | poor salami :( |
| 06:50.45 | rioter | its jelly you bastards |
| 06:51.07 | scanline | salami is jelly? |
| 06:51.26 | darth_mall | rioter: what in babylon are you babbling about? |
| 06:51.42 | rioter | jello its not jello its jelly! |
| 06:51.44 | scanline | rioter: jello is a brand |
| 06:52.04 | ChipX86 | jello is not jelly |
| 06:52.17 | rioter | thats it, im going to the store, buying a box of jelly and showing you |
| 06:52.22 | ChipX86 | we know what jelly is |
| 06:52.25 | darth_mall | rioter: have fun |
| 06:52.25 | ChipX86 | jello is different |
| 06:52.31 | ChipX86 | we have both here |
| 06:52.41 | rioter | jelly is the wobbly stuff that tastes like the colour |
| 06:53.03 | scanline | they both somewhat fit that description |
| 06:53.07 | scanline | but jello and jelly are different |
| 06:53.16 | darth_mall | jelly is squished fruit, jello is made from gelatin |
| 06:53.22 | scanline | jelly is typically something you spread on toast, and it's made from real-ish fruit |
| 06:53.24 | lurgy | you could mix them |
| 06:53.27 | scanline | jello is that creepy desert stuff |
| 06:53.27 | lurgy | and get jellyo |
| 06:53.34 | lurgy | mmmmm creepy desert stuff |
| 06:53.35 | rioter | http://www.kzone.com.au/transient/aeroplanejelly/home.html |
| 06:53.38 | darth_mall | lurgy: or jey llo |
| 06:53.50 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:53.51 | lurgy | indeed |
| 06:53.55 | ChipX86 | rioter: read my text |
| 06:54.11 | rioter | no, you americans have it mixed up :) australia has it right |
| 06:54.18 | ChipX86 | jello is a company that produces a product, jello. Jello is a gelatin-based snack. |
| 06:54.48 | rioter | nope thats jelly |
| 06:55.14 | darth_mall | well, there's two solutions |
| 06:55.22 | darth_mall | one we can keep arguing |
| 06:55.25 | ChipX86 | australia is upside-down :( |
| 06:55.26 | kergoth | rioter: you should tell that to the company that owns the trademark on 'jello', then. |
| 06:55.28 | scanline | rioter: so.. the stuff you spread on toast is jello in australia? |
| 06:55.44 | darth_mall | 2 we can all go kick England's ass for calling fries 'chips' |
| 06:55.47 | rioter | no thats jam |
| 06:55.51 | ChipX86 | ... |
| 06:56.01 | kergoth | darth_mall: i like 2 |
| 06:56.01 | scanline | rioter: so if you don't have a better use for the word "jello", shut up and let us have it |
| 06:56.02 | ChipX86 | well yes, jelly == jam |
| 06:56.15 | darth_mall | kergoth: I thought that would be the more popular one |
| 06:56.16 | lurgy | heh |
| 06:56.18 | lurgy | poor rioter |
| 06:56.21 | lurgy | he's so outnumbered.. |
| 06:56.21 | rioter | jello doesnt exist! |
| 06:56.37 | kergoth | rioter: you should tell that to bill cosby |
| 06:56.50 | kergoth | he might disagree, given the number of jello commercials he did |
| 06:57.01 | rioter | jelly and jam is the same thing |
| 06:57.02 | kergoth | fuck, i have a headache |
| 06:57.11 | ChipX86 | rioter: we know |
| 06:57.14 | rioter | thats why, you americans just have to have it different, i mean look at the imperial system |
| 06:57.15 | ChipX86 | jelly and jam is the same thing |
| 06:57.18 | ChipX86 | jello is an american product |
| 06:57.20 | ChipX86 | it is not jelly |
| 06:57.33 | ChipX86 | it's a gelatin snack usually in a cup or in cube form |
| 06:57.40 | rioter | hence why you should call jello, jelly , like the rest of the world |
| 06:57.45 | ChipX86 | wtf? |
| 06:57.47 | ChipX86 | we have jelly |
| 06:57.48 | scanline | rioter: it's a brand name damnit |
| 06:57.49 | ChipX86 | we know what jelly is :P |
| 06:57.53 | ChipX86 | jello is *different* |
| 06:57.58 | ChipX86 | you do not put it on toast |
| 06:58.01 | ChipX86 | you do not eat it with peanut butter |
| 06:58.05 | kergoth | you could |
| 06:58.08 | darth_mall | rioter: what side of the road do you drive on? |
| 06:58.08 | ChipX86 | it's a product from a company called Jello |
| 06:58.10 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: well.. jelly and jam are different... |
| 06:58.17 | rioter | the right side :P |
| 06:58.17 | nullpuppy | but it has to do with they way they're made |
| 06:58.19 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: not as much as jello and jelly |
| 06:58.24 | nullpuppy | yeah, true :) |
| 06:58.33 | kergoth | whats the difference between jelly and jam, anyway? |
| 06:58.39 | ChipX86 | http://www.kraftfoods.com/jello/main.aspx?s=&m=content_main |
| 06:58.41 | ChipX86 | jello |
| 06:58.46 | darth_mall | kergoth: a couple of letters |
| 06:58.55 | kergoth | darth_mall: thanks |
| 06:59.03 | ChipX86 | if australia doesn't have jello, I have no interest in visiting there |
| 06:59.05 | darth_mall | I can't remember if there's actually a difference or not |
| 06:59.10 | rioter | we have jelly |
| 06:59.13 | darth_mall | I know there's a difference between jelly and preserves |
| 06:59.13 | rioter | which is what you call jello |
| 06:59.13 | ChipX86 | we do too |
| 06:59.16 | ChipX86 | no |
| 06:59.21 | ChipX86 | we have jelly as well |
| 06:59.23 | rioter | no |
| 06:59.28 | rioter | we have no jello, its jelly |
| 06:59.33 | darth_mall | why are you still talking about this? |
| 06:59.37 | rioter | and the product you call jelly is jam |
| 06:59.43 | rioter | the word jello is dead to us |
| 06:59.52 | darth_mall | congratulations |
| 07:00.13 | ChipX86 | so australia couldn't get any interest from Kraft Foods to market the product there, and thus had to remove a perfectly good word and make a product with the same name in order to bring any kind of resemblance to the american product? |
| 07:00.17 | ChipX86 | ok :) |
| 07:00.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:00.42 | darth_mall | ;( |
| 07:00.48 | darth_mall | s/\(/\)/ |
| 07:00.49 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r838 10mck/PyMCK/ (Scheduler.py Sensor.py): Sensor.SequencedReader seems to work now, yay |
| 07:00.54 | rioter | mmm when was jello trademarked anyone know? |
| 07:01.23 | darth_mall | after dinosaurs but before hovercars |
| 07:01.36 | kergoth | dinosaurs were trademarked? neat. |
| 07:01.45 | kergoth | boored. |
| 07:01.46 | ChipX86 | 1904 apparently |
| 07:02.09 | darth_mall | see? so I was right |
| 07:02.16 | darth_mall | now we can all talk about something else |
| 07:02.24 | rioter | oh you beat us by 20 years |
| 07:02.49 | ChipX86 | yep, by inventing it |
| 07:05.09 | purple_cow | rioter: take that! |
| 07:06.30 | rioter | i wont admit defeat, i will fight this to my grave |
| 07:07.23 | ChipX86 | mmmm jello |
| 07:07.47 | rioter | mmm now i feel like jelly, good hting i have quickset jelly |
| 07:08.09 | ChipX86 | I have a few of those 6-packs of jello |
| 07:08.19 | ChipX86 | good purchase |
| 07:10.04 | purple_cow | flimshaw! |
| 07:10.09 | purple_cow | this machine ran out of disk space :( |
| 07:10.18 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r839 10mck/PyMCK/Sensor.py: |
| 07:10.18 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: Enforce a timeout for all sensors sequenced against a shared resource, so that |
| 07:10.18 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: if that sensor fails it won't monopolize the resource. If a sensor does use up |
| 07:10.18 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: its timeout, a warning is logged. The sensor will be retried once it receives |
| 07:10.18 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: more time from the scheduler. |
| 07:26.54 | rioter | heh radio show in australia rang up mexican restraunts in the us asking if they could get a large 'condoleeza rice' |
| 07:27.20 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:27.32 | purple_cow | this show is better than i imagined :) |
| 07:29.12 | lurgy | http://colorado.thefacebook.com/group_profile.php?gid=3449 <- best group ever |
| 07:29.28 | lurgy | purple_cow: yeah, i hear there's an episode about putting firecrackers or rockets or something in a trombone bell.. |
| 07:29.39 | lurgy | (assuming that's mythbusters you're talking about) |
| 07:29.42 | purple_cow | lurgy: yeah, there's an episode with "exploding trombone" in the name |
| 07:29.52 | lurgy | :) |
| 07:30.10 | purple_cow | right now they're trying to blow up a toilet with a cigarette |
| 07:30.36 | rioter | yeah that show is cool, i need more episodes, damn australian tv |
| 07:31.47 | purple_cow | sean was right |
| 07:31.57 | purple_cow | it does have the same kind of atmosphere of the earlier seasons of junkyard wars |
| 07:34.02 | lurgy | hehe |
| 07:34.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:34.20 | purple_cow | they just tried a full can of gas |
| 07:34.24 | purple_cow | now it's time for black powder :) |
| 07:34.35 | lurgy | mmm |
| 07:34.36 | lurgy | powder |
| 07:41.58 | lurgy | whee.. sleeping time |
| 07:57.29 | purple_cow | ``specks of meat are embedded in the torso'' |
| 08:04.40 | ChipX86 | yay, super missile |
| 08:05.18 | purple_cow | time for a shower, then another episode? |
| 08:05.21 | scanline | sure |
| 08:06.58 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 08:07.04 | ChipX86 | those intelligent creatures actually smell for me |
| 08:07.19 | ChipX86 | some programmer there spent way too much time on their AI |
| 08:11.48 | rioter | what game? |
| 08:12.42 | ChipX86 | Metroid Prime 2 |
| 08:22.22 | rioter | ah |
| 08:22.39 | rioter | im so supprised some of the stuff in the family guy wasnt censored 'and brown like the guys i dont pick up in my cab' |
| 08:39.41 | purple_cow | hahaha, crazy bastards |
| 08:40.45 | ChipX86 | ow, hard boss |
| 08:41.02 | ChipX86 | I love how when you die, it shows that your heart fails. That's great. |
| 08:41.13 | purple_cow | apparently a penny can hit your ass at terminal velocity and not do any damage |
| 08:42.14 | ChipX86 | well duh, it's only a penny! |
| 08:43.10 | purple_cow | haha |
| 08:43.12 | purple_cow | pennies at mach 3 |
| 08:48.06 | ChipX86 | yow. That boss was brutal.. but yay! victory is mine |
| 08:48.10 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 08:48.51 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 08:48.53 | ChipX86 | it's one of those battles where the boss does a lot of damage, constantly spawns annoying enemies to do lots of damage, and you fight the whole thing in a poisonous environment that does constant damage, and you only get little pellets of health every so often |
| 08:49.18 | purple_cow | i don't think i've ever seen someone cut a beef roast with a jigsaw |
| 09:02.31 | purple_cow | :se noai |
| 09:02.31 | purple_cow | a:se ai |
| 09:02.35 | purple_cow | urk |
| 09:03.20 | purple_cow | we need a faraday cage :) |
| 09:09.13 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (~jupiter@navi.cs.colorado.edu) |
| 09:56.15 | purple_cow | yep, i think it's bedtime |
| 10:01.30 | rioter | yeah me to |
| 13:50.57 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~mschneide@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 13:56.00 | Cae | GOOD MORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:56.43 | rioter | oh thats it |
| 13:56.46 | rioter | your way to happy for a morning |
| 13:56.47 | rioter | banned! |
| 14:01.00 | Cae | HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY |
| 14:02.29 | rioter | your making me sick |
| 14:02.31 | rioter | im going to bed again |
| 14:02.35 | rioter | night :) |
| 14:05.51 | Cae | hehe |
| 14:06.09 | Cae | I'm just awake enough to enjoy being disgustingly awake |
| 14:06.12 | Cae | g'night though |
| 14:18.00 | Cae | w00t |
| 14:18.22 | Cae | conoco scholarship specifically declares that it should also be used for room and board |
| 14:18.31 | Cae | take that federal government, it's fucking tax freee |
| 14:23.32 | Cae | eh. except that the irs sucks |
| 14:28.04 | merlin262 | yep |
| 14:30.06 | Cae | hm |
| 14:30.53 | Cae | okay, the other thing bush has actually done good (the first thing being creating the tsunami relief thingie with two former presidents) is the raising the limit for how much you can contribute annually to a retirement fund |
| 14:43.36 | Cae | ... |
| 14:44.11 | Cae | true |
| 14:45.04 | Cae | I'm just trying to find a single thing he's ever done right. so far I've found two. because otherwise I get horribly depressed that we're stuck with him for the next four years (unless he dies, becomes incapacitated, impeached, etc) |
| 14:45.21 | ToyKeeper | Heh. :) |
| 14:47.52 | ToyKeeper | I heard... third-hand, from a friend who knew an agent from the CIA or NSA (I forget), that there were 12 conditions for a country to be considered to be "having a revolution". |
| 14:48.42 | ToyKeeper | Supposedly, as of ~10 years ago, all but one were true in the US. Maybe Bush has finished the set. |
| 14:50.08 | ToyKeeper | I don't really know, but it does seem likely that the next 20 years or so will be rather interesting. It's like we're in the 50's again, and the 60's are coming. |
| 14:52.23 | ToyKeeper | http://bash.org/?450693 (The Sad, Sad, Tale of Polly Nomial) |
| 15:03.47 | Cae | LOL |
| 15:03.51 | Cae | and yeah |
| 15:04.17 | Cae | change will eventually need to happen (or this country will go further to shit), the question is when |
| 15:04.44 | Cae | bush may push it over the edge, not sure though. so many people are apathetic, and congress is pretty satisfied with itself |
| 15:18.14 | lurgy | lala |
| 15:18.14 | lurgy | hehe |
| 15:18.16 | lurgy | Cae is here |
| 15:19.00 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:19.05 | lurgy | morning kergoth |
| 15:19.06 | Cae | morning! |
| 15:24.05 | Cae | have FUN! |
| 15:31.13 | Cae | hm. note to self, must order photography stuff |
| 15:46.33 | lurgy | yay stuff |
| 15:52.11 | ToyKeeper | Heh, fail. |
| 15:52.11 | ToyKeeper | Synergy blows. |
| 15:52.33 | ToyKeeper | Almost, but not quite, as much as x2x (on this flaky connection). |
| 16:11.57 | darth_mall | moo |
| 16:12.35 | scanline | bleh |
| 16:15.45 | ToyKeeper | er.. non-sucky |
| 16:15.49 | ToyKeeper | heh |
| 16:25.41 | kergoth | mm, iced venti chai |
| 16:30.52 | ToyKeeper | Starbucks makes me want to go punch a nun. |
| 16:31.21 | kergoth | well, no better places nearby, and i dont own an espresso machine, so itll do |
| 16:31.27 | kergoth | tiiired |
| 16:33.07 | ToyKeeper | I pretty much leave coffee alone. It's good, with as much sugar as you'd use in Kool-aid, but I'd generally rather have tea or juice. |
| 16:33.23 | kergoth | ah. |
| 16:33.40 | ToyKeeper | Of course, I put a lot of sugar in tea, too. :) |
| 16:33.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:42.47 | kergoth | woo |
| 16:42.53 | kergoth | got official word on the profit sharing at work for 2004 |
| 16:43.02 | kergoth | 15.5% of the 2004 base pay earnings |
| 16:43.02 | kergoth | ! |
| 16:43.47 | kergoth | which isnt as high as i was hoping, but is still pretty damn good |
| 16:47.56 | Cae | heh |
| 16:50.16 | Cae | jbot: (2*5)+6 |
| 16:50.17 | jbot | 16 |
| 16:50.30 | Cae | jbot: (3*5)+10 |
| 16:50.31 | jbot | 25 |
| 16:50.39 | Cae | jbot: (16+25)/2 |
| 16:50.40 | jbot | 20.5 |
| 16:50.46 | Cae | 20 rolls it is |
| 16:51.25 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r840 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: Some more notes, no real code yet |
| 16:52.23 | kergoth | ~yow |
| 16:52.33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:52.35 | kergoth | hey TD |
| 16:52.57 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r841 10mck/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add sensor scheduler code into CX's Satellite.py, fix in Scheduler.py for when there's no tasks, removed old sensor scanner code from PyMCK/Satellite.py |
| 16:53.24 | TD | hey kergoth |
| 16:54.52 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:55.14 | Cae | I just paid about $90 for film and photographic paper. and the sad thing is, I can almost guarantee it's less than what anyone else in the class paid |
| 16:59.14 | darth_mall | Cae: ^^ |
| 16:59.28 | Cae | I price shop |
| 17:00.19 | darth_mall | yikes, lots of updates on abacaxi |
| 17:09.41 | purple_cow | oof |
| 17:09.48 | purple_cow | woke up at exactly the wrong part of a sleep cycle |
| 17:20.57 | purple_cow | is that leftover coffee real coffee? |
| 17:21.02 | darth_mall | quite |
| 17:22.22 | purple_cow | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1248811.html |
| 17:23.37 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 17:23.46 | darth_mall | that's pretty funny |
| 17:27.13 | darth_mall | I really hate it when people use 'dice' as a singular word |
| 17:27.29 | darth_mall | "I want to play poker with a 6-sided dice" |
| 17:27.31 | darth_mall | guh |
| 17:27.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:27.54 | kergoth | silly people |
| 17:28.07 | kergoth | tell him the correct word is what he should do |
| 17:28.09 | kergoth | die |
| 17:28.40 | darth_mall | "Excuse me, prof. whatever-your-name-is. the word is 'die'; 'dice' is plural." |
| 17:29.06 | kergoth | oh, prof |
| 17:29.28 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:29.42 | darth_mall | what's weird is sometimes she says "6-sided die" |
| 17:29.48 | kergoth | anyone know of an X app that can display SVGs and can do whats essentially a manually driven slideshow? |
| 17:29.50 | kergoth | (presentations) |
| 17:30.04 | darth_mall | kergoth: weren't you telling me about one over the summer? |
| 17:30.23 | darth_mall | someone used it at that linux conferency thing you went to (I thought) |
| 17:30.26 | kergoth | oh, thats right...keith packard and carl worth presented at ols using xsvg |
| 17:30.37 | kergoth | wonder if they modified it, or if its suitable as is |
| 17:32.25 | kergoth | gah |
| 17:32.28 | kergoth | inkscape doesnt work well in ion |
| 17:32.41 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:32.49 | kergoth | its fill & stroke dialogs and stuff, basically any of its pop up dialogs, show up, and have no buttons to exit it |
| 17:32.56 | kergoth | so i cant close it |
| 17:33.11 | darth_mall | I had that problem for a while in sawfish for some reason |
| 17:33.12 | kergoth | its inside of the existing ion window, rather than a seperate one, so i cant use ion to do so |
| 17:33.14 | darth_mall | then it went away |
| 17:33.15 | kergoth | grr |
| 17:33.18 | kergoth | weird |
| 17:35.16 | darth_mall | heh, it always bothers me when she writes out the sample space for coin flipping problems |
| 17:35.33 | darth_mall | she uses 0 for heads, 1 for tails, and it looks like a series of binary numbers, but not in order |
| 17:35.50 | darth_mall | so it's like Digital Logic, but with a schizophrenic teacher |
| 17:36.06 | purple_cow | time for school |
| 17:36.06 | darth_mall | for some reason it weirds me out |
| 17:36.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: better run |
| 17:57.13 | file | eek class |
| 17:57.17 | file | hello TD and Chip |
| 17:57.20 | ChipX86 | hi |
| 17:57.47 | ChipX86 | MS To Limit Security Fixes to Legal Copies of Windows |
| 17:57.54 | ChipX86 | good job MS, that'll solve the bigger problem |
| 17:59.30 | pagefault_ | fuck |
| 17:59.31 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 17:59.32 | pagefault_ | I just read that |
| 17:59.37 | pagefault_ | looks like i need to find a good cdkey |
| 18:00.01 | TD | lol, best error code for wine ever: CO_E_WRONGOSFORAPP |
| 18:00.05 | TD | i wonder where we can return that |
| 18:00.07 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 18:03.01 | pagefault_ | lol the sims 2 got banned in china |
| 18:03.01 | pagefault_ | wtf |
| 18:03.08 | file | pagefault_: status report on Gentooization |
| 18:03.28 | pagefault_ | I got tired and went to bed |
| 18:03.36 | pagefault_ | I need to install gcc to compile some silly tool |
| 18:03.44 | file | awwwwww poor you |
| 18:06.47 | scanline | wobblik |
| 18:06.51 | darth_mall | hey scanline |
| 18:07.45 | darth_mall | hi Cae |
| 18:07.52 | ChipX86 | hi Cae |
| 18:07.56 | Cae | no cookie for my mind! |
| 18:08.02 | Cae | bad mind |
| 18:08.05 | Cae | hi |
| 18:08.15 | darth_mall | you're thinking about midget-porn again, aren't you |
| 18:08.18 | Cae | no |
| 18:08.24 | Cae | my answer was going to be "masturbate" |
| 18:08.36 | darth_mall | huh? |
| 18:08.38 | darth_mall | I'm confused |
| 18:08.41 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 18:08.48 | Cae | though if you think of midget porn while masturbating, then..um..okay. |
| 18:08.57 | Cae | ***darth_mall wonders what to do with himself for the next hour |
| 18:09.05 | darth_mall | Cae: oh |
| 18:09.10 | Cae | :P |
| 18:09.29 | darth_mall | but I doubt slimspace or anyone else at Space Grant would approve |
| 18:10.09 | scanline | huh, that's weird.. my watch was completely blank |
| 18:10.09 | darth_mall | I wonder if I've got an NES emulator on yomiko |
| 18:10.09 | scanline | I poked one button, it went back to normal |
| 18:10.10 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03dowty * r842 10mck/PyMCK/Scheduler.py: The scheduler needs to set self._running=False when it breaks the callback chain |
| 18:10.23 | Cae | WoW |
| 18:10.35 | Cae | or FF |
| 18:10.42 | Cae | UT? |
| 18:10.57 | darth_mall | currently the only FF game I'm involved in requires my PS2 |
| 18:11.01 | Cae | hm |
| 18:11.08 | darth_mall | actually, both of them do |
| 18:11.18 | Cae | heh |
| 18:11.32 | scanline | slimspace: I don't think the CD (or anything else really) should be directly starting the sensor readers, that's a job for the dependency tracker |
| 18:12.25 | scanline | slimspace: I was thinking there would be a generic micronet sensor reader subclass in Micronet.Entity |
| 18:12.51 | scanline | slimspace: it would use micronet command introspection to figure out what return values to expect, and it would create appropriate observable values |
| 18:13.07 | hardwire | moving to the country |
| 18:13.11 | hardwire | gonna eat me a lot of peaches |
| 18:13.13 | scanline | slimspace: the satellite module would then just create instances of that with various micronet command names, and hook the dependencies up to whatever microcontroller they're on |
| 18:13.21 | Cae | darth_mall: rewire ChipX86 |
| 18:13.32 | slimspace | scanline: right...was I starting the scanner from the CD? |
| 18:13.52 | pagefault_ | time to generate a new XP key |
| 18:13.53 | scanline | looked like it, but that might have been old code |
| 18:14.00 | scanline | honestly I don't think we even need a critical decoder class |
| 18:14.02 | slimspace | must have been, because I don't remember it being there. |
| 18:14.10 | ChipX86 | Cae: might not be a bad idea |
| 18:14.29 | darth_mall | I doubt ChipX86 wants me touching his wires |
| 18:14.35 | slimspace | scanline: what would you suggest in place? |
| 18:14.48 | scanline | the CD itself's readiness state can be represented by a pinger object, the sensors themselves can be independent relay or micronet sensor instances |
| 18:15.09 | scanline | the micronet commands themselves already contain enough hardware abstraction |
| 18:15.12 | hardwire | I'm still moooooving to the country! |
| 18:15.13 | scanline | we don't need yet another abstraction layer |
| 18:15.19 | hardwire | GONNE EAT ME A BUNCH OF PEACHES! |
| 18:15.26 | slimspace | scanline: ok. Pinger object...is that new? |
| 18:15.26 | file | this calling card web interface is pretty... |
| 18:15.44 | scanline | slimspace: it isn't written yet, but there's a description of it in Micronet.Entity |
| 18:15.49 | slimspace | ah |
| 18:15.52 | file | eek postgresql |
| 18:16.20 | scanline | slimspace: I have homework to do, so I doubt I'll get around to any serious hacking on this until late afternoon or evening today |
| 18:16.42 | slimspace | scanline: ok. Anything you can brain-dump to me so I can take care of it? |
| 18:17.07 | ChipX86 | hardwire: you got the song wrong |
| 18:17.15 | scanline | slimspace: the pinger has a boolean state machine indicating a device's readiness, and it knows what command it can use to query readiness |
| 18:17.24 | ChipX86 | or the lyrics, rather |
| 18:17.29 | hardwire | ChipX86: I sing from the heart! |
| 18:17.33 | scanline | slimspace: in order for the state to transition to True, it needs to get a successful ping. If that fails, the retrying elsewhere will cope |
| 18:17.57 | scanline | slimspace: after it successfully transitions to True, it would create an instance of some sensor reader subclass to periodically poll it to ensure it stays ready |
| 18:18.06 | slimspace | ok, first off, how does it know how to do this, and where is elsewhere? |
| 18:18.13 | scanline | slimspace: after multiple consecutive failures, it would reset back to unready and unregister the sensor reader |
| 18:18.25 | scanline | slimspace: elsewhere would be in PyMCK.Change |
| 18:18.29 | slimspace | ok |
| 18:18.51 | scanline | slimspace: there would be a dependency chain set up.. something like (all CD sensors) -> CD pinger -> micronet |
| 18:18.55 | CIA-6 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: [OLE #56] Propogate errors better in the typelib marshaller |
| 18:18.59 | TD | whoops |
| 18:19.10 | pagefault_ | ok my XP is valid now :) |
| 18:19.21 | scanline | slimspace: if you turn on a sensor, you'd get a change request list that would include turning on the micronet, turning on the pinger, and then turning on the other sensors |
| 18:19.43 | scanline | slimspace: if the pinger fails, the process of running the change request list should eventually include any necessary retry code |
| 18:20.02 | scanline | slimspace: once the pinger's readiness state is True however, it needs to do its own polling (via a sensor reader) to make sure it stays ready |
| 18:20.18 | scanline | slimspace: if not, it would set readiness to False and all above dependencies would collapse |
| 18:20.41 | scanline | we still need a good syntax for setting up collapsing dependencies... I'm tempted to just add code to addBoolPrereq(x,y) that sets up an observer pointing from y to x |
| 18:21.11 | slimspace | sounds good |
| 18:21.16 | scanline | those sorts of prerequisites should happen immediately, since they are just modeling events not under our software's control |
| 18:21.30 | scanline | if the serial port explodes or something, the sensors are going down.. we don't have a choice, we just need to update those states |
| 18:21.31 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (pagefault@Toronto-HSE-ppp3858381.sympatico.ca) |
| 18:21.35 | ToyKeeper | Hehe... scanline: most of what you just said about the pinger sounds curiously sexual. |
| 18:21.46 | scanline | but in bringing it back up, that's when the dependency tracker actually lets us make a change request list |
| 18:22.20 | slimspace | ok, so the requests would remain, but the states would be brought down. |
| 18:22.23 | scanline | slimspace: so I think we probably only need very few objects in Micronet.Entity, and nothing microcontroller-specific |
| 18:22.24 | scanline | yes |
| 18:22.33 | scanline | remember, the requests indicate what we want- and that hasn't changed |
| 18:22.38 | slimspace | right |
| 18:22.39 | scanline | just the reality of the situation, the current states |
| 18:23.16 | scanline | Micronet.Entity would probably just include one generic sensor reader (that would work with any command), the pinger, and a state-controlled actuator class or two for things like relays |
| 18:23.23 | ToyKeeper | ... turning on the pinger, and then turning on the other sensors... polling to make sure it stays ready... set readiness to False and all dependencies would collapse... Reminds me of that story about Polly Nomial. |
| 18:23.28 | scanline | nothing would be turned on directly, it would all be done via constraints |
| 18:23.42 | scanline | ToyKeeper: sick bastard |
| 18:24.05 | ToyKeeper | The thing about constraints didn't help. :) |
| 18:24.30 | scanline | ToyKeeper: if you can find that much pleasure from state machines, embedded systems, and constraint solvers.. more power to ya |
| 18:24.44 | slimspace | scanline: how would the sensor reader be used for any command? |
| 18:25.25 | ToyKeeper | Hehe.. I think it's just because I read http://bash.org/?450693 a couple hours ago. |
| 18:25.43 | scanline | slimspace: make a subclass of SequencedReader that's constructed with a micronet bus master instance and a command name.. it uses introspection to figure out the return values that command should have and creates observable values named the same. Then when it polls, it stows the results in those observable values |
| 18:25.44 | hardwire | this |
| 18:25.44 | hardwire | is |
| 18:25.47 | hardwire | an amazing patch. |
| 18:25.58 | hardwire | I found a 2.6.8 patch for NS Geodes |
| 18:26.02 | ToyKeeper | hardwire: don't you mean peach? An amazing peach? |
| 18:26.13 | hardwire | however they targetted it for this embedded wireless router |
| 18:26.19 | hardwire | so it threw madwifi into the kernel tree somehow |
| 18:26.20 | scanline | slimspace: so you just create, say, a MicronetSensor(foo.mnet, "cmd_cd_sendall") and all of a sudden it has observable.value members representing all the values you'd get back from a sendall |
| 18:26.22 | hardwire | freaky. |
| 18:26.28 | hardwire | same with hostap and ipw2100 |
| 18:26.34 | hardwire | all mini-pci'able stuffs |
| 18:26.38 | scanline | slimspace: all the conversion to engineering units and such belongs in the command definition, so the data should already be in its final form |
| 18:26.41 | hardwire | and it threw in the wd1100 watchdog |
| 18:26.47 | hardwire | and CONFIG_MGEODE |
| 18:26.49 | hardwire | so happy |
| 18:26.51 | slimspace | this is for sensors, right? |
| 18:26.52 | hardwire | I loff this patch |
| 18:26.56 | hardwire | ToyKeeper: PATCH! |
| 18:26.58 | hardwire | hmm |
| 18:27.03 | hardwire | I haven't seen Patches in a while. |
| 18:27.08 | scanline | slimspace: yes.. any micronet command we want to poll the return values of |
| 18:27.17 | slimspace | ok, that clears things up |
| 18:28.30 | slimspace | As for Pingable, how will it know what command to use? do we specify that in the constructor? |
| 18:28.32 | scanline | since we already have all this hardware abstraction and introspection ability in Micronet.CommandList, the layer gluing that to everything else can be very generic |
| 18:28.34 | scanline | slimspace: yes |
| 18:28.38 | slimspace | ah, ok |
| 18:29.11 | slimspace | would relays fall under the periodic polling category too? |
| 18:29.36 | scanline | probably. The relay class could probably internally use a MicronetSensor instance to verify its current status |
| 18:29.42 | hardwire | scanline: I got a question about your crazy sensors |
| 18:29.47 | scanline | hardwire: no! |
| 18:29.50 | hardwire | ok |
| 18:30.48 | scanline | slimspace: yeah. we'd need to control the priorities of the various sensor readers carefully |
| 18:31.50 | slimspace | well, I can take an initial thwack at all this, see what I come up with |
| 18:31.55 | scanline | we probably need a slightly better way to control priorities.. right now the 'priority' value used by the scheduler is effectively a timeslice in seconds |
| 18:32.12 | scanline | the sensor reader could probably take some abstract priority and multiply it by a default timeslice |
| 18:32.21 | scanline | slimspace: ok. good luck. I'll prolly be online, just working on other things |
| 18:32.45 | slimspace | cool, I'll probably have more questions. But I do feel like I'm finally understanding this crazy design of yours |
| 18:32.51 | scanline | :) |
| 18:33.01 | file | it has a certain scanline-like quality to it? |
| 18:33.12 | slimspace | file: oh definitely |
| 18:33.16 | file | freaky |
| 18:34.08 | scanline | slimspace: I think we're at least converging slowly on a better way to explain it :) |
| 18:35.45 | scanline | oh no! |
| 18:36.53 | scanline | oh wow.. I hadn't even looked at these phys1140 problems yet |
| 18:38.34 | slimspace | coolness |
| 18:39.06 | scanline | we have a status meeting for this senior project.. was hoping to have the database ported over to MySQL and setup, and the new javascript GUI code written |
| 18:39.14 | scanline | so I got the database ported and set up, but haven't touched the javascript |
| 18:39.29 | scanline | probably not a big deal, but I'd like to at least start on it |
| 18:39.35 | slimspace | cool |
| 18:40.01 | hardwire | MILLIONS OF PEACHES! |
| 18:40.24 | file | hardwire: may I have a peach? |
| 18:40.28 | hardwire | newp |
| 18:40.31 | hardwire | thems my alaska peaches |
| 18:41.29 | hardwire | peeachy peeee |
| 18:41.50 | file | darn |
| 18:42.04 | hardwire | this is insane. |
| 18:42.14 | hardwire | I have a dual-display KVM |
| 18:42.28 | hardwire | monitor 1 - monitor 2 - Key - Mouse |
| 18:42.35 | hardwire | 4 ports of it! |
| 18:42.37 | hardwire | love!~ |
| 18:55.19 | darth_mall | peaches for free? |
| 18:57.35 | hardwire | millions. |
| 18:59.06 | hardwire | yeh |
| 18:59.08 | hardwire | you would be too |
| 18:59.16 | hardwire | nudge nudge wink wink |
| 19:00.03 | file | now now hardwire |
| 19:00.56 | hardwire | what? |
| 19:01.16 | darth_mall | boo for recitations |
| 19:01.25 | hardwire | yay for recusitations |
| 19:01.28 | file | hardwire: I said 'now now'... are you hard of hearing? |
| 19:01.33 | hardwire | what? |
| 19:01.37 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:01.51 | hardwire | I am going to make a CEO compliant Bandwidth Control Unit |
| 19:01.53 | hardwire | w/ knobs |
| 19:02.14 | hardwire | a 1/u rackmount with a series of knobs that control bandwidth to pre-set up systems. |
| 19:02.24 | hardwire | neat eh? |
| 19:02.35 | file | and then hit him over the head with it |
| 19:02.42 | hardwire | indeed |
| 19:03.06 | hardwire | I need a free spinning knob however |
| 19:03.21 | hardwire | scanline: do you know of such beast? like the griffen knobs? |
| 19:06.29 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 19:06.32 | hardwire | or like stereo knobs |
| 19:06.41 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: what do you use to monitor battery life on your notebook? |
| 19:06.43 | nullpuppy | or do you? |
| 19:07.11 | hardwire | nullpuppy: just use ACPI to read out the battery readings |
| 19:07.17 | hardwire | throw thm into a tab delimmited file |
| 19:07.18 | ChipX86 | acpi and the gnome battery applet |
| 19:07.18 | nullpuppy | hmm, ok |
| 19:07.21 | hardwire | then use xplot at the end of a day |
| 19:11.28 | nullpuppy | hrm /proc/acpi/battery/ is empty :( |
| 19:11.36 | ChipX86 | damnit, blame for another build brekage |
| 19:11.38 | hardwire | now thats sad |
| 19:11.42 | hardwire | nullpuppy: what about apm |
| 19:12.38 | file | ChipX86: but did you really do it? :( |
| 19:12.52 | nullpuppy | hrm... |
| 19:13.03 | nullpuppy | apm ... No APM support in Kernel |
| 19:13.10 | nullpuppy | if i try to start apmd, similar problem |
| 19:13.16 | nullpuppy | checked config and stuff is built in though... |
| 19:13.29 | nullpuppy | although... this is moving an install from one laptop to another so... |
| 19:13.33 | nullpuppy | i need to rebuild anyways |
| 19:13.54 | file | nullpuppy: you're silly |
| 19:14.25 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:15.01 | nullpuppy | hmm, i think i might take this into work too, in which case, i should probably pack up after this kernel gets merged |
| 19:15.04 | scanline | hardwire: you could use a bunch of those USB volume knob thingies |
| 19:15.05 | ChipX86 | file: it's my change, but the reason it was broken was because someone screwed up auto-merges to another branch |
| 19:15.15 | ChipX86 | but let's blame me, because I'm the person to blame even if it's not my change :P |
| 19:15.25 | file | awwwwwwwwww |
| 19:15.40 | hardwire | scanline: probably.. I would have to OEM them and get new smaller knobs for them |
| 19:15.57 | scanline | hardwire: or just a bunch of variable resistors and a really big but slow daq system |
| 19:16.08 | hardwire | scanline: thats fine too.. |
| 19:16.17 | hardwire | I could even rip apart a joystick controller.. and use that |
| 19:16.20 | hardwire | a us one. |
| 19:16.22 | hardwire | usb |
| 19:16.33 | hardwire | but. |
| 19:16.43 | hardwire | I just want the free rotationg volume thingies like you said. |
| 19:16.51 | hardwire | like on stereos |
| 19:17.01 | scanline | so modify a mouse |
| 19:17.09 | hardwire | that was the second plan |
| 19:17.17 | scanline | hook panel-mount shaft encoders up to the mouse chip's inputs |
| 19:18.10 | scanline | is this going to have LEDs or something, or you just turn it a smidgen and guess "oh, that looks like about 5 kb/s..." |
| 19:18.26 | hardwire | a readout vfd/lcd |
| 19:18.45 | hardwire | it would probably have an ITX mainboard in it. |
| 19:18.50 | hardwire | as well |
| 19:18.59 | hardwire | however :) |
| 19:18.59 | file | hardwire: you like ITX alot don't you? |
| 19:19.03 | hardwire | file: its small |
| 19:19.14 | hardwire | I could use flexatx as well |
| 19:19.17 | ToyKeeper | You could just use a synaptics pad, or similar. Make it look and work like an iPod. :) |
| 19:19.28 | hardwire | ToyKeeper: that freaks me out slightly |
| 19:19.33 | hardwire | too much wiki wah wah |
| 19:19.49 | hardwire | hahaha |
| 19:19.53 | hardwire | I should use audio faders |
| 19:19.58 | nullpuppy | hehe, my epia is still sitting here waiting for its case :( |
| 19:20.04 | hardwire | nullpuppy: sosad. |
| 19:20.10 | hardwire | what is it going to be used for |
| 19:20.10 | nullpuppy | will be here today though, so i'll be able to put it together tonight |
| 19:20.20 | hardwire | I have been using a 1.2ghz Nehemiah for a desktop machine w/ two heads |
| 19:20.22 | hardwire | it doesn't deal well |
| 19:20.25 | nullpuppy | its going to replace my k6-2 as my pseudo server/irc/screen box |
| 19:20.38 | hardwire | its stable.. however once you throw X on it it slows down nicely. |
| 19:20.39 | nullpuppy | going to be headless for the most part |
| 19:20.44 | hardwire | it can't grok FreeType |
| 19:20.48 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:21.26 | hardwire | you know what would be cooler? |
| 19:21.31 | hardwire | pushbutton adjustment knobs |
| 19:21.31 | ChipX86 | why the hell would they file two bugs telling me I broke the build.. |
| 19:21.33 | hardwire | like on stereos |
| 19:21.35 | hardwire | only huge :) |
| 19:21.40 | hardwire | err.. car stereos |
| 19:21.42 | hardwire | :) |
| 19:21.51 | hardwire | the whole knob just shoots out and lets you adjust it |
| 19:22.00 | hardwire | then goes back into "locked" mode once pushed back in |
| 19:22.37 | scanline | hardwire: you need a binary entry panel that uses 6-inch knife switches |
| 19:22.55 | hardwire | http://www.hawkusa.com/hawkknobs/hawkknobs.asp?wci=referer&referer=508 |
| 19:23.00 | scanline | "that building has our servers. This building has the front panel" |
| 19:24.23 | scanline | actually, I think you just need a big game-show-style spinner |
| 19:24.33 | scanline | give it a twirl and everybody gets new bandwidth allocations |
| 19:25.14 | nullpuppy | scanline: ... don't mean to bug you but... did ya send it yet? :) |
| 19:26.21 | scanline | nullpuppy: no :( |
| 19:26.22 | scanline | sorry |
| 19:26.36 | nullpuppy | ok, no worries |
| 19:27.37 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: if you really want to not bug him you should start asking about when he's going to fix CIA and what's wrong with it and it's not working, etc. >=) |
| 19:27.55 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 19:28.01 | scanline | they sure give you lotsa fries at the real mccoy |
| 19:28.03 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: thats ok, i really don't want to be another diablo ;) |
| 19:28.22 | darth_mall | oh it's not just Diablo-D3 ;) |
| 19:28.39 | scanline | diablo doesn't even really care that much when CIA is down, just when he's found something to complain about |
| 19:28.41 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:28.55 | scanline | yeah |
| 19:29.20 | darth_mall | if for no other reason then their nicks |
| 19:30.27 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 19:30.38 | nullpuppy | what did appleserver complain about? |
| 19:30.48 | darth_mall | he came in, said CIA was down, and left |
| 19:30.53 | darth_mall | absinthe did the same but stayed |
| 19:30.56 | scanline | --- [22:27] AppleServer (~AppleBoy@ip68-5-96-75.oc.oc.cox.net) joined the channel |
| 19:30.56 | scanline | <AppleServer> [22:27] what happened to cia and why is it going wacked? |
| 19:30.56 | scanline | --- [22:28] AppleServer (~AppleBoy@ip68-5-96-75.oc.oc.cox.net) left the channel |
| 19:31.03 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 19:31.10 | darth_mall | he also had a good username |
| 19:31.19 | nullpuppy | yup, but he doesnt use apples |
| 19:32.16 | nullpuppy | ok.. well... i should start packing up for work :/ |
| 19:32.55 | darth_mall | yay work |
| 19:33.18 | nullpuppy | grr... screen is all fubar on this laptop... not expanding the entire screen :/ |
| 19:33.30 | darth_mall | ctrl-l? |
| 19:33.42 | file | nullpuppy: what type is it? |
| 19:33.52 | nullpuppy | micron transport gx+ |
| 19:34.00 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: nope, that didnt help |
| 19:34.14 | file | hit random buttons |
| 19:34.30 | darth_mall | is this screen the terminal thingy or the screen on the computer? |
| 19:34.49 | nullpuppy | screen on the computer |
| 19:34.59 | darth_mall | oh, yeah, ctrl-l wouldn't have helped with that ;) |
| 19:35.01 | darth_mall | sorry |
| 19:35.07 | nullpuppy | hehe, k :) |
| 19:36.20 | nullpuppy | haha, yeah, i've had that happen too |
| 19:36.36 | scanline | heh |
| 19:36.44 | nullpuppy | oh well.. i'll figure it out later... |
| 19:36.47 | scanline | some guys behind me are talking about some homework assignment or something.. |
| 19:36.51 | scanline | "I did it with 'if' loops" |
| 19:37.12 | nullpuppy | hahaahah |
| 19:37.13 | scanline | ew, matlab |
| 19:37.19 | darth_mall | 10 if 1: GOTO 10; |
| 19:37.31 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:37.38 | darth_mall | yay if loops |
| 19:37.54 | scanline | you need to invent a dialect of python with line numbers |
| 19:38.20 | darth_mall | ok |
| 19:38.24 | darth_mall | and columns? |
| 19:38.28 | scanline | cure |
| 19:38.32 | scanline | er.. sure |
| 19:38.34 | darth_mall | we'll call it... PyTRAN! |
| 19:38.36 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:38.46 | darth_mall | PyTRAN 2005! |
| 19:38.58 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (~mschneide@Bloc-14.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 19:39.23 | scanline | 10 class Foo: |
| 19:39.23 | scanline | 20 def wobble(self): |
| 19:39.23 | scanline | 30 return 42 |
| 19:39.23 | scanline | 40 goto 30 |
| 19:39.35 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 19:39.41 | file | wibble wobble |
| 19:42.12 | scanline | bleh, not getting anything done |
| 19:42.30 | darth_mall | me neither |
| 19:42.35 | darth_mall | oh wait, that's cuz I'm in class |
| 19:43.26 | file | class inhibits productivity |
| 19:44.36 | scanline | huh |
| 19:44.43 | scanline | nobody else has committed any code recently |
| 19:44.53 | darth_mall | for what? work? |
| 19:45.00 | scanline | no, to my senior project |
| 19:45.03 | darth_mall | oh |
| 19:45.28 | scanline | and I couldn't care less whether our project looks good =) |
| 19:45.36 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:54.29 | file | Cae |
| 19:54.31 | file | gah |
| 19:54.34 | file | Cae: careful - it might kick back |
| 19:54.55 | CIA-6 | winehq: 03Mike Hearn <mh@codeweavers.com> * 10/: |
| 19:54.55 | CIA-6 | winehq: [OLE #57] Change some FIXMEs to ERRs, fix an error path in |
| 19:54.56 | CIA-6 | winehq: _marshal_interface |
| 19:58.01 | Cae | okay, fine, I won't pay my bill |
| 19:58.18 | file | Cae: call and complain, alot |
| 19:58.20 | Cae | stupid website |
| 19:58.31 | Cae | file: I would, but it takes effort |
| 19:58.41 | Cae | and their service reps are evil |
| 19:58.41 | file | what, no speakerphone? |
| 20:00.38 | kergoth | god users are idiots |
| 20:00.44 | hardwire | I am having all sorts of archaic ideas today |
| 20:00.44 | file | yup |
| 20:00.52 | kergoth | 14:42 < kergoth> go install the glibc rpms that include 1) /usr/lib/libc.so and 2) /usr/lib/libc.a |
| 20:00.53 | hardwire | the knob based BCU |
| 20:00.54 | hardwire | and now |
| 20:00.57 | kergoth | 14:44 < mathieu_xwave> kergoth: I'm using mandrake 10.1 ! /usr/lib/libc.so already exist but |
| 20:01.01 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.02 | hardwire | I need to do a real proposal for the communications systems for our boat |
| 20:01.03 | kergoth | 14:44 < kergoth> no shit. |
| 20:01.07 | kergoth | what part of "go install .." is hard to understand? |
| 20:01.20 | hardwire | and here I am thinking.. god.. its cheaper for me to have a GPS Guided mini-helicopter with 36 gigs of payload on it. |
| 20:01.27 | hardwire | than it is to have immediate communications |
| 20:01.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:01.37 | hardwire | carrier pigeons! |
| 20:01.41 | hardwire | iits just not right. |
| 20:04.17 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r843 10mck/PyMCK/Types.py: Created new MicronetReader class and filled in the details of Pingable. Not yet tested, but it looks promising |
| 20:06.41 | hardwire | found a 15 turn precision dial |
| 20:06.51 | hardwire | I need to mount it ona button playform now |
| 20:06.56 | hardwire | button platform |
| 20:08.58 | hardwire | I think I am going to test striped CF performance today. |
| 20:14.27 | scanline | wow, it's so dead around here |
| 20:14.29 | scanline | only steve and jen here |
| 20:14.51 | scanline | hardwire: sick bastard! |
| 20:15.20 | scanline | http://navi.cx/therm/source/outside/ <-- yay colorado weather :P |
| 20:16.06 | hardwire | scanline: on which account? |
| 20:16.28 | kergoth | If it's IP protection you're after, please use some other operating |
| 20:16.28 | kergoth | system. Thanks. |
| 20:16.29 | scanline | hardwire: yes |
| 20:16.34 | hardwire | damn. |
| 20:16.39 | hardwire | I do feel kinda sick. |
| 20:16.40 | kergoth | gotta love rmk |
| 20:16.53 | hardwire | redundant monkey knots? |
| 20:16.55 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:18.23 | kergoth | russell king, the arm linux maintainer |
| 20:18.31 | kergoth | he can be a real ass on the mailing lists, and i respect that |
| 20:21.19 | Cae | clearly cingular wishes me not to pay my credit card bill |
| 20:21.23 | scanline | slimspace: I think you forgot to commit something... r843 just had a __repr__ for ObjectTree |
| 20:21.36 | Cae | er, s/credit card/cell phone/ |
| 20:21.38 | slimspace | hmm...odd |
| 20:21.48 | slimspace | maybe I didn't save it... |
| 20:22.05 | scanline | heh, ObjectTree scares me |
| 20:23.02 | slimspace | there you go |
| 20:23.15 | hardwire | I am slightly fucked up.. |
| 20:23.19 | hardwire | aren't I.. |
| 20:23.22 | kergoth | slightly? |
| 20:23.23 | hardwire | now that I read back.. |
| 20:23.24 | darth_mall | whoa that was weird |
| 20:23.32 | hardwire | kergoth: you are tooo! |
| 20:23.44 | hardwire | look at me put linux on this pda.. yay yay yay |
| 20:23.46 | hardwire | :) |
| 20:23.57 | kergoth | i didnt say there was anything _wrong_ with it :) |
| 20:24.07 | hardwire | I need my asthma meds |
| 20:24.09 | hardwire | I haven't had them for days |
| 20:24.17 | hardwire | because the costco pharmacy is crazy |
| 20:24.35 | scanline | slimspace: ooh, a use for reply.label :) |
| 20:24.45 | slimspace | :) |
| 20:24.49 | slimspace | yeah, I thought that was neat |
| 20:27.32 | scanline | slimspace: poll() should return a deferred that resolves to None once the sensor is finished reading |
| 20:27.52 | slimspace | oh, ok |
| 20:28.06 | scanline | SequencedReader needs that to keep access to the bottleneck resource serialized |
| 20:28.08 | hardwire | this is neat |
| 20:28.17 | hardwire | having ath0 send to ath0 on a remote device.. one way |
| 20:28.28 | hardwire | and ath1 recieve from ath1 on a remote device.. one way |
| 20:28.34 | hardwire | multipath routing |
| 20:28.50 | hardwire | if I turn off enough wireless ops |
| 20:28.57 | hardwire | I will have semi-full duplex |
| 20:29.31 | scanline | slimspace: this looks quite nice so far |
| 20:29.33 | scanline | + # Setup a watch for the micronet. If it goes down, tear the pinger |
| 20:29.33 | scanline | + # down as well. |
| 20:29.33 | scanline | + self.mnet.initialized.addTransitionTo( False, self.uninitialize ) |
| 20:29.33 | scanline | + |
| 20:29.52 | slimspace | glad you approve :) |
| 20:30.01 | scanline | that should probably be the satellite's responsibility, but it depends I guess on whether we end up adding a doobopper in addBoolPrereq to do that automatically |
| 20:30.27 | slimspace | yeah. I figured since we don't have that yet, the best place for that was there. |
| 20:30.30 | CIA-6 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r844 10mck/PyMCK/Hardware/Micronet/Entity.py: oops, forgot to save the micronet stuff |
| 20:30.31 | scanline | k |
| 20:30.45 | scanline | yay lag... |
| 20:30.51 | slimspace | hehe |
| 20:32.18 | scanline | hmm, another thing |
| 20:32.20 | scanline | + d = self.mnet.sendCommand( cmd ).addCallback( self._pingSuccessful ) |
| 20:32.20 | scanline | + return d |
| 20:32.20 | scanline | + |
| 20:32.38 | scanline | IIRC, for that to work _pingSuccessful needs to accept an argument with the deferred's result, then return that out again |
| 20:32.52 | scanline | when you chain deferreds, it does so via the callback's return values |
| 20:33.00 | slimspace | right, forgot that |
| 20:33.35 | slimspace | well, it would work anyway, just returning None to the next deferred. |
| 20:33.43 | slimspace | not right, but it would work |
| 20:34.00 | scanline | woudln't give you an error about the number of arguments? |
| 20:34.26 | slimspace | shouldn't. Without a return value after the first, it's like sending None to the next. |
| 20:35.21 | scanline | but calling the callback will still work if it takes no args? |
| 20:35.37 | slimspace | No, that won't work |
| 20:35.48 | scanline | wouldn't have really surprised me either way ;) |
| 20:37.24 | slimspace | that would definitely be nice |
| 20:37.28 | scanline | test cases for Scheduler and Sensor will be a bitch |
| 20:37.42 | slimspace | no kidding... |
| 20:38.06 | scanline | It's not hard to write a simple one that isn't necessarily deterministic, but that bothers me |
| 20:38.19 | scanline | but then.. I think some of the microcontroller protocol tests are already not necessarily deterministic ;) |
| 20:38.40 | scanline | it's probably enough to run a simple system in real-time and ensure that the timeslices are about right |
| 20:38.58 | slimspace | yeah |
| 20:39.26 | scanline | sort of a 'top' for sensors ;) |
| 20:39.41 | slimspace | ooh, we might be able to use that in C&DH status packets... |
| 20:39.55 | slimspace | They did want "task status" |
| 20:39.58 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:40.13 | scanline | well, representing our satellite's status over the wire should be quite easy |
| 20:40.21 | slimspace | nod |
| 20:40.22 | scanline | everything interesting is an observable.value or observable.state |
| 20:41.20 | scanline | hooray for you and I being on the same page again =) |
| 20:41.35 | slimspace | yay! |
| 20:41.46 | slimspace | That last big commit you did last night fixed it for me |
| 20:41.49 | darth_mall | does that mean someone wins a cookie? |
| 20:41.50 | scanline | cool |
| 20:42.11 | slimspace | ~botsnack |
| 20:42.11 | jbot | slimspace: :) |
| 20:42.16 | scanline | I guess if you have micronet.entity and satellite under control, I could start getting the micronet sim stuff running at least well enough to write test cases with |
| 20:42.33 | slimspace | yeah, definitely. I think I can take it from there. |
| 20:43.17 | file | achoo! |
| 20:43.53 | scanline | hmm... I just described something as "architecturally cromulent" |
| 20:44.02 | slimspace | lol |
| 20:44.27 | scanline | slimspace: are the other software team folks clamoring for work yet? |
| 20:44.35 | scanline | or is that what we find out friday? |
| 20:44.49 | slimspace | not sure. I think at least two are working on the reid-soloman thing, and the others...I'm not sure. |
| 20:45.09 | slimspace | why, do you have ideas? |
| 20:45.13 | scanline | just curious |
| 20:45.17 | slimspace | ah |
| 20:45.19 | scanline | I got some email back from the reed-solomon folks |
| 20:45.30 | slimspace | yeah, Friday I'll be going over all the software and hopefully getting them started with things. |
| 20:45.32 | slimspace | Oh? |
| 20:45.40 | scanline | turned out they had been trying the one I found on sourceforge.. it worked as-is, but failed when they increased the number of parity bytes |
| 20:46.01 | scanline | I haven't done any further research, but it sounded like the change they made was kind of drastic |
| 20:46.16 | scanline | I'm not sure they understand the algorithmic impact of going from, say, 2 parity bytes to 10 |
| 20:46.17 | slimspace | ah, I see. Sounds like it would definitely be worth re-exploring then. |
| 20:46.26 | scanline | yeah. it sounds like it just needs tweaking, but it works |
| 20:46.31 | slimspace | definitely |
| 20:46.56 | scanline | reed-solomon is definitely a wheel none of us should have to reimplement.. that stuff is quite hairy code, and has been solved already plenty of times |
| 20:47.06 | slimspace | no kidding |
| 20:49.02 | slimspace | yay class being done |
| 20:49.15 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:49.24 | darth_mall | uhoh... it's slimspace|away |
| 20:49.45 | purple_cow | now the burning question is |
| 20:49.50 | purple_cow | what the hell am i going to eat for lunch? |
| 20:49.51 | scanline | oh no, burning |
| 20:49.57 | darth_mall | purple_cow: there's lots of carpet up here |
| 20:50.14 | scanline | purple_cow: jen gave me this very tasty looking 4x4x4 inch cube of aluminum |
| 20:50.19 | scanline | purple_cow: I'll split it with you |
| 20:53.06 | scanline | hmm, there seems to be a very lime and/or coconut oriented song coming from jen's ipod |
| 20:53.19 | scanline | bleh |
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| 21:12.01 | darth_mall | wb slimspace del muerte |
| 21:12.50 | purple_cow | wow, they managed to break a crash-test dummy |
| 21:16.46 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:16.51 | kergoth | i can make my inkscape crash |
| 21:16.59 | kergoth | reproducable |
| 21:18.13 | purple_cow | this show is too cool :) |
| 21:19.56 | darth_mall | mmmmmmmmmmm... The Sinking Ships |
| 21:20.13 | darth_mall | they give me this warm, fuzzy feeling all over |
| 21:20.20 | purple_cow | :) |
| 21:22.07 | hardwire | ok |
| 21:22.17 | hardwire | only a 1.34x speedup on two striped CF vs Linear |
| 21:22.19 | hardwire | write access time |
| 21:23.30 | purple_cow | it's disappointing how much they say "don't try this at home" |
| 21:24.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what're you watching? |
| 21:24.27 | purple_cow | darth_mall: mythbusters |
| 21:28.37 | darth_mall | ah |
| 21:28.46 | purple_cow | it's so funny :) |
| 21:28.47 | darth_mall | I suppose I should get to work on this OS homework |
| 21:28.51 | purple_cow | i want their job |
| 21:28.56 | darth_mall | no! |
| 21:31.33 | purple_cow | whats that do? |
| 21:32.36 | darth_mall | it looks to see if things need to be re-emerged because of a change in the use flags |
| 21:32.47 | darth_mall | emerge --newuse -a world is so great |
| 21:35.35 | kergoth | yay for using inkscape to make slides for presentations |
| 21:38.57 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:45.36 | scanline | yay whiteboard |
| 21:46.00 | kergoth | this is the first time i've ever actually used layers in inkscape |
| 21:46.02 | kergoth | quite useful |
| 21:46.16 | scanline | ooh layers |
| 21:47.45 | samyb | inkscape |
| 21:48.05 | samyb | nikescap |
| 21:48.17 | samyb | ikesnapc |
| 21:48.19 | samyb | Evil. |
| 21:49.18 | darth_mall | heh, I didn't know inkscape had layers |
| 21:49.26 | kergoth | me either |
| 21:49.34 | kergoth | but now my slide backdrop is on its own layer |
| 21:49.39 | kergoth | so i dont fuck it up working ont he content |
| 21:49.41 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:53.48 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 21:54.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:04.56 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 22:04.59 | ChipX86 | people get bonus checks Friday |
| 22:05.04 | ChipX86 | but I think I'm just barely too new for it |
| 22:05.09 | kergoth | doh |
| 22:16.56 | ChipX86 | :/ it was going to be a very nice bonus too |
| 22:17.33 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 22:17.41 | darth_mall | ChipX86: look on the bright side, I love you |
| 22:18.41 | darth_mall | hehe... I love that little bridge in Only a Lad |
| 22:18.54 | darth_mall | it's quite similar to the first song in Nightmare Before X-mas |
| 22:25.32 | nullpuppy | mmm, nice laptop |
| 22:25.40 | nullpuppy | the spec sheet lied :) |
| 22:26.08 | ChipX86 | in a good way? |
| 22:26.13 | nullpuppy | 1280x1024 apparently is 1400x1050 :) |
| 22:26.18 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 22:26.20 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 22:27.03 | file | ugh... so much static electricity... |
| 22:27.20 | ChipX86 | you should douse it in water |
| 22:28.40 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: how big is the screen |
| 22:35.51 | kergoth | nullpuppy: what laptop? |
| 22:39.38 | darth_mall | Elliot Smith's cover of Because is really good |
| 22:41.12 | darth_mall | who was it that was gonna send more Elliot Smith? rioter? |
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| 22:52.54 | nullpuppy | kergoth: mircon transport GX+ |
| 22:53.13 | nullpuppy | max res is 1400x1050 instead of 1280x1024 like the spec sheet said |
| 22:56.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:56.21 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:56.38 | kergoth | that one you own, or just shopping? |
| 22:57.00 | file | nullpuppy: do I dare inquire on what the CPU is |
| 22:57.07 | nullpuppy | kergoth: just got it today |
| 22:57.14 | nullpuppy | file: p3 1ghz |
| 22:57.17 | file | ah |
| 22:57.22 | nullpuppy | its a refurb/used |
| 22:57.46 | file | I saw a pic on Google images and it looked like it had a Xeon sticker... I was going, "wth?!?" |
| 22:57.51 | ChipX86 | I should be getting my new box in a few days |
| 22:57.58 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:58.06 | ChipX86 | or Jamie's computer, depending on how things turn out |
| 22:59.02 | nullpuppy | it appears to have a good battery which is nice too |
| 22:59.03 | kergoth | giving her the box? |
| 22:59.05 | nullpuppy | still charging |
| 22:59.12 | kergoth | i'm thinking about picking up a sharp mp70 |
| 22:59.12 | ChipX86 | kergoth: quite possibly. It's why I was originally looking |
| 22:59.14 | nullpuppy | (at 41% now) |
| 22:59.14 | kergoth | pb_ just got one |
| 22:59.32 | ChipX86 | she needs a computer. It's not fair with her mom having two computers and not letting her touch either due to paranoia about viruses and computer fragility |
| 23:02.06 | kergoth | how's http://hyperion.kergoth.com/images/slide.svg_ti_logo.svg look? |
| 23:03.01 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 23:03.17 | nullpuppy | dunno, looks good, but possibly too green :) |
| 23:03.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:03.40 | kergoth | i wanted a fairly pastelish, nonthreatening color for the background |
| 23:03.45 | ChipX86 | vector graphics fun |
| 23:03.45 | kergoth | that wouldnt detract from the actual content |
| 23:03.50 | kergoth | indeed |
| 23:03.58 | ChipX86 | I hated them a week ago |
| 23:04.06 | ChipX86 | (hated making them, specifically) |
| 23:04.15 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hmm, yeah |
| 23:04.26 | kergoth | but that isnt white |
| 23:04.30 | kergoth | cause white's awfully boring |
| 23:04.33 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 23:04.57 | kergoth | plus with white, its a really stark contrast, probably more than i want. less pleasant to the eye |
| 23:04.57 | nullpuppy | kinda depends on the content.. i think i'd prefer something a bit more blue |
| 23:05.03 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 23:06.31 | kergoth | hmm, blue doesnt look good next to that red |
| 23:06.49 | nullpuppy | yeah, thats probably true |
| 23:07.46 | nullpuppy | maybe just a different shade of green |
| 23:07.49 | nullpuppy | dunno |
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| 23:08.07 | kergoth | could add a border between the footer and the rest |
| 23:08.07 | kergoth | isolate the background color from the bottom section |
| 23:08.07 | kergoth | thatd reduce the amount of clash a bit |
| 23:08.54 | Samy | Hey guys |
| 23:08.57 | nullpuppy | yeah, that would be good |
| 23:08.59 | nullpuppy | heya Samy |
| 23:09.00 | Samy | Any of you using a borderless theme for sawfish/fb? |
| 23:09.42 | nullpuppy | not i |
| 23:11.46 | kergoth | nullpuppy: perhaps just a light grey? |
| 23:11.55 | kergoth | simple, not white, unobtrusive, and no clashing |
| 23:11.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:12.01 | nullpuppy | hmm, maybe |
| 23:12.28 | kergoth | i wish i knew more about art and stuff |
| 23:12.42 | kergoth | all i know is my instincts, the gut feeling about the image |
| 23:12.42 | nullpuppy | it really largly depends on the content and how much of the bg gets covered up |
| 23:12.46 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 23:12.49 | kergoth | nod |
| 23:21.25 | pagefault | ooo? |
| 23:21.52 | nullpuppy | openoffice.org |
| 23:22.07 | pagefault | oh |
| 23:32.55 | kergoth | man, thank god for inkscape's align & distribute functions |
| 23:34.42 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:34.49 | kergoth | itd be cool if inkscape could duplicate a layer |
| 23:35.07 | kergoth | example: lock & hide the current background, clone a new copy, make modifications without fucking up the original |
| 23:37.34 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 23:37.38 | purple_cow | a panty-static generator |
| 23:38.12 | kergoth | ..? |
| 23:38.17 | kergoth | nullpuppy: what about something like: http://hyperion.kergoth.com/images/slide.test.svg |
| 23:38.31 | pagefault | mmm capsaicin |
| 23:38.32 | purple_cow | kergoth: watch mythbusters 102 ;) |
| 23:38.46 | kergoth | k |
| 23:39.41 | darth_mall | well there you have it |
| 23:41.06 | nullpuppy | hmm, that looks good |
| 23:41.23 | nullpuppy | might change the TI logo a little though |
| 23:41.27 | kergoth | the black line helps keep the blue and red from clashing too hard, and the test is a light grey rather than white |
| 23:41.35 | kergoth | yeah, the logo is potraced, so it got a bit too curvy :) |
| 23:41.41 | nullpuppy | blue and red? i'm seeing blue and green :) |
| 23:42.04 | kergoth | green? where? |
| 23:42.27 | nullpuppy | i'll ss sec |
| 23:42.32 | kergoth | k |
| 23:42.37 | kergoth | are you viewing in inkscape? |
| 23:42.44 | kergoth | could be there are now inkscape specific elements in that svg |
| 23:42.50 | kergoth | with the layering and all |
| 23:43.29 | nullpuppy | http://www.cuodan.net/~nullpuppy/slide-ss.png |
| 23:44.02 | darth_mall | kergoth: I dig the curvy logo |
| 23:44.27 | darth_mall | kergoth: also, it looks the same to me as it does to nullpuppy |
| 23:44.42 | kergoth | nullpuppy: try http://hyperion.kergoth.com/images/slide.test.plain.svg |
| 23:44.43 | kergoth | ew |
| 23:44.47 | kergoth | weird |
| 23:44.58 | kergoth | it must be the layers |
| 23:45.01 | kergoth | try the plain one |
| 23:45.32 | nullpuppy | same thing |
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| 23:45.39 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:46.32 | kergoth | i do believe i've found an inkscape bug. |
| 23:46.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:46.47 | kergoth | it isnt respecting layer hiding when exporting to plain svg and/or png |
| 23:47.06 | nullpuppy | wierd |
| 23:48.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:49.20 | kergoth | nullpuppy: http://hyperion.kergoth.com/images/slide.test.png was how it looked in my inkscape. |
| 23:49.24 | kergoth | nullpuppy: weird eh? |
| 23:49.43 | kergoth | i had to kill the hidden backdrop layer with the green to make it not visable in the exported png or plain svg |
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| 23:51.16 | nullpuppy | wow, thats a lot different :) |
| 23:51.27 | file | what... happened... |
| 23:51.27 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 23:51.32 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: ? |
| 23:51.38 | kergoth | nullpuppy: no doubt. opinion? |
| 23:51.47 | kergoth | ChipX86: working on my slides still |
| 23:51.49 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: eh? |
| 23:51.51 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 23:51.54 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 23:52.03 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 23:54.58 | kergoth | nullpuppy: what do you think? like the blue better than the pastel green? |
| 23:55.24 | nullpuppy | yeah, i think so |
| 23:55.32 | nullpuppy | might try a pastelish blue too |
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| 23:56.15 | purple_cow | darth_mall: aha, the server you were connected to went poof |
| 23:56.58 | darth_mall | ~yow |
| 23:57.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:58.25 | file | nullpuppy: some strange person in fmr is messaging me... |
| 23:58.39 | nullpuppy | who's that? |
| 23:58.41 | file | CERO |
| 23:58.56 | darth_mall | boooooooooooooooooooo |
| 23:58.57 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 23:58.58 | darth_mall | I'm still not getting anything in my userlist |
| 23:59.01 | file | apparently only speaks spanish |
| 23:59.02 | darth_mall | but only in tacobeam and bzflag |
| 23:59.04 | darth_mall | weird |
| 23:59.08 | darth_mall | hey, there it is |
| 23:59.15 | nullpuppy | huh... what do you want me to do about it? |
| 23:59.24 | darth_mall | sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... purple_cow |
| 23:59.24 | file | nullpuppy: spin around three times and explode |
| 23:59.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what do you recommend we do about this autoloading of plugins nonsense that the xchat core does? |
| 23:59.43 | purple_cow | ``if you're a paratrooper, and you've got one of these creme-filled confections in the pocket of your uniform, you'd better be careful!'' |
| 23:59.45 | nullpuppy | ok |
