| 00:00.08 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.36) |
| 00:03.29 | samyb | Hey. |
| 00:03.40 | samyb | scanline: Thanks for that SVN repository, but I have no need for it now :) |
| 00:05.06 | purple_cow | aww, how cute |
| 00:05.11 | purple_cow | the recruiter spelled out vmware for me |
| 00:05.17 | hardwire | heh |
| 00:05.22 | hardwire | spell out qemu |
| 00:05.31 | hardwire | or uml |
| 00:07.46 | kergoth | aha, screen -U, i was wondering how to make it use utf-8 happily |
| 00:08.58 | scanline | purple_cow: ? |
| 00:09.14 | purple_cow | scanline: guy called for you |
| 00:09.25 | purple_cow | mark - 650-475-5000 x705 |
| 00:09.32 | kergoth | Error is 7: AUTHENTIFICATION_ERROR |
| 00:09.32 | kergoth | TSP session done |
| 00:09.36 | kergoth | ooh, authentification |
| 00:10.12 | scanline | purple_cow: ah |
| 00:25.06 | darth_mall | lol |
| 00:25.15 | darth_mall | someone just called for "mee-kah" dowty |
| 00:25.27 | darth_mall | apparently his co-worker left a message with scanline |
| 00:25.38 | darth_mall | didn't even say where he worked... |
| 00:26.01 | ChipX86 | christian@christian-lx:~/ws50/lib/vmhostsvcs$ v |
| 00:26.03 | ChipX86 | oops |
| 00:26.07 | ChipX86 | ignore that |
| 00:26.08 | darth_mall | naughty ChipX86! |
| 00:26.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:26.20 | purple_cow | ChipX86's sharing trade secrets!!! |
| 00:26.23 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:26.43 | ChipX86 | 650-475-5000 is VMware |
| 00:26.45 | ChipX86 | call back :) |
| 00:26.55 | darth_mall | neat |
| 00:27.23 | ChipX86 | (told you we do it fast) |
| 00:27.33 | darth_mall | do what fast? |
| 00:27.39 | darth_mall | or don't I want to know... |
| 00:27.41 | ChipX86 | set up job interviews |
| 00:28.38 | ChipX86 | scanlinE: Mark Drennan is who contacted you, if you haven't called back yet |
| 00:28.48 | ChipX86 | he's the lead recruiter for the Hosted Solutions team (our parent team) |
| 00:32.12 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 00:35.39 | ChipX86 | yay Finding Nemo |
| 00:36.09 | scanline | ChipX86: ok. I'm not sure if I'll be able to call back today... not around a phone |
| 00:36.15 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:36.54 | cwisty | scanline: dork you can use my phone |
| 00:37.28 | ChipX86 | I imagine they just want to make an appointment for an interview |
| 00:37.31 | ChipX86 | (phone interview) |
| 00:37.47 | cwisty | doh |
| 00:41.53 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:43.55 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:44.28 | ChipX86 | huh, I'm told it's Interactive Devices that's contacting you |
| 00:44.38 | ChipX86 | so the Hosted Solutions guy was contacting you because the other guy couldn't |
| 00:44.53 | ChipX86 | we'll be working in different buildings, I think, if you get the job, but there's a shuttle, so *shrug* |
| 00:45.57 | scanline | hmm |
| 00:46.15 | samyb | That would be really cool. |
| 00:46.18 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 00:46.26 | samyb | I know a person working at atom-z, a lot of fun. |
| 00:46.55 | samyb | Especially to watch him react with random atom-z searches such as: "Ben is a raving rapist kiddie-porn collector" |
| 00:47.03 | samyb | atomz that is. |
| 00:47.34 | samyb | If scanline was to work there, we could bump him evil sublimal messages. |
| 00:47.51 | ChipX86 | we had this conversation before, didn't we? |
| 00:48.05 | ChipX86 | and I asked that before, when we had the conversation before, because we had it before that |
| 00:48.08 | ChipX86 | or I'm going nuts |
| 00:48.39 | kergoth | yay for donations |
| 00:48.44 | kergoth | just got a $40 one |
| 00:48.51 | samyb | kergoth: Are you on your new job now BTW? |
| 00:49.05 | kergoth | heh, still job hunting |
| 00:49.07 | kergoth | bored off my ass |
| 00:51.48 | samyb | kergoth: That sounds boring. :) |
| 00:55.22 | kergoth | churning out drivers day after day isnt my idea of a good time |
| 01:11.23 | purple_cow | bah, what i want to make can't really be done without a grill |
| 01:14.43 | scanline | heh, that was fun |
| 01:14.53 | scanline | ChipX86: he gave me their little CS pretest thing, and set up an interview time |
| 01:15.10 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:15.15 | ChipX86 | how'd the test go? |
| 01:15.16 | scanline | you could tell he had a list of words he was waiting for me to say, like "atomic" and "critical section" |
| 01:15.26 | scanline | went well |
| 01:15.44 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 01:15.55 | scanline | did they do the same thing to you? |
| 01:16.31 | ChipX86 | well, kind of |
| 01:16.41 | ChipX86 | I had two phone interviews, both with a couple of algorithmic challenges each |
| 01:16.48 | ChipX86 | then 6 hours of interviews at VMware |
| 01:16.53 | scanline | it sounds like that's what they're doing to me tomorrow |
| 01:16.56 | ChipX86 | with 6 people interviewing me, each with their own questions or challenges |
| 01:17.01 | scanline | yeah, he mentioned that |
| 01:17.08 | ChipX86 | the initial contact was through e-mail, so I didn't have to do anything there |
| 01:17.13 | scanline | ah |
| 01:17.32 | ChipX86 | if you do come in to interview at some point, I'll meet up with you at some point |
| 01:17.43 | ChipX86 | and I just used "at some point" twice there |
| 01:17.44 | scanline | yay |
| 01:18.03 | ChipX86 | I'll introduce you to Rachel Hestilow and Alex Graveley and everyone else I know |
| 01:18.09 | scanline | :) |
| 01:18.20 | ChipX86 | brb |
| 01:19.31 | purple_cow | damnit |
| 01:21.12 | scanline | to eat? |
| 01:22.02 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 01:22.57 | cwisty | nothing like maruchan instant lunch |
| 01:22.59 | cwisty | for dinner |
| 01:23.51 | cwisty | wut? |
| 01:24.05 | cwisty | That's what I'm eating right now |
| 01:24.25 | cwisty | it's good for you |
| 01:24.29 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 01:24.31 | scanline | ChipX86: there were some really silly questions on the pretest, like "how many bits are in an int".. makes me wonder whether they were expecting me to just chime in "32!" or give the "Well, it depends..." answer that I gave |
| 01:25.14 | scanline | but I wholeheartedly support the big-O questions |
| 01:27.08 | ChipX86 | scanline: :) |
| 01:27.12 | ChipX86 | they just want to make sure |
| 01:27.22 | ChipX86 | I don't know about that team, but in our team, we're picky |
| 01:27.47 | ChipX86 | we want somebody who will answer the "it depends" answers, who fits in socially, and who can guarantee us spaced out birthdays for cake |
| 01:28.03 | scanline | :) |
| 01:28.16 | ChipX86 | of course, your team may not have as much cake |
| 01:28.22 | scanline | :( |
| 01:28.39 | scanline | this really seems like it's right up my alley... USB, video drivers, working on OS-level code... |
| 01:28.54 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 01:29.08 | ChipX86 | do you know what google's offering? |
| 01:29.14 | scanline | haven't talked to them yet |
| 01:29.24 | scanline | got an interview with them tomorrow, before the VMware one |
| 01:29.30 | ChipX86 | when? |
| 01:29.40 | scanline | 11:00, I think... |
| 01:29.41 | ChipX86 | (I'm going to be curious how both go ?:) |
| 01:29.44 | ChipX86 | er, -? |
| 01:29.50 | scanline | me too |
| 01:30.00 | ChipX86 | meh tomorrow is moving day. Wish it was next week.. |
| 01:30.01 | scanline | ah, 11:30 |
| 01:30.09 | scanline | moving where? |
| 01:30.15 | ChipX86 | to my new office in the other building |
| 01:30.19 | scanline | neat |
| 01:30.28 | scanline | you get an office? :) |
| 01:30.33 | ChipX86 | all engineers get offices |
| 01:30.36 | ChipX86 | only interns get cubicles |
| 01:30.37 | scanline | neat |
| 01:30.44 | ChipX86 | you have to share with one person typically |
| 01:30.47 | ChipX86 | but the offices are big enough |
| 01:30.56 | scanline | sounds kinda like lockheed martin then |
| 01:30.57 | ChipX86 | especially my new corner office with room for 3 |
| 01:31.08 | scanline | at least the part of lmco where my dad works |
| 01:31.12 | ChipX86 | we just need to figure out how to get a couch in there |
| 01:31.16 | scanline | yay, couch |
| 01:31.23 | file | ChipX86: transporter |
| 01:31.28 | purple_cow | gah |
| 01:31.35 | purple_cow | worst way to be :( |
| 01:31.38 | ChipX86 | file: I mean, how we're going to get a couch :) |
| 01:31.45 | file | ChipX86: sell your soul! |
| 01:31.47 | file | ...or not |
| 01:31.58 | ChipX86 | hmmm, I could... |
| 01:32.29 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 01:32.37 | ChipX86 | scanline: you'll be working at Porter, not hillview |
| 01:32.41 | ChipX86 | so we'll be in the same building |
| 01:32.47 | ChipX86 | you may get a window office |
| 01:32.55 | scanline | wow |
| 01:32.57 | laodamas | At Lockheed the niceness of your workspace is directly proportional to the size of the contract you are working divided by the number of people under the contract |
| 01:33.36 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 01:33.43 | scanline | :) |
| 01:33.45 | scanline | hmm.. hungry... |
| 01:33.56 | scanline | but not nearly hungry enough to be decisive |
| 01:34.09 | ChipX86 | at VMware, it doesn't matter how high up you are or what you're working on. If you're an engineer, and there are offices available, you get an office. If there's a window office available, you get that, usually. Seniority doesn't play into it |
| 01:34.13 | scanline | laodamas: how does it compare to the engineering center as far as cement blocks go? |
| 01:34.24 | scanline | ChipX86: cool |
| 01:34.34 | ChipX86 | well, it kind of does, because Regis was like the 23rd person at VMware, and got to choose his old office back, which is that corner office |
| 01:34.38 | cwisty | ChipX86: Sounds like Level 3 |
| 01:34.39 | ChipX86 | but in general.. |
| 01:35.10 | laodamas | scanline: It was remodeled this year, doesn't smell and has lots of toys (PC,Suns,SGIs,a Video Wall, etc) |
| 01:35.19 | scanline | yay, toys |
| 01:35.36 | ChipX86 | toys good |
| 01:36.04 | laodamas | I personally have five matched 19" LCD displays for the six computes in my cube :P |
| 01:36.08 | ChipX86 | poor Amanda was feverish last night :( |
| 01:36.38 | ChipX86 | hmm, hope they've ordered more 20.1" LCDs so scanline, if he gets and wants the job, will have one |
| 01:37.01 | laodamas | 1 Top Secret, 2 Secret, and 2 Unclassified displays |
| 01:37.19 | file | laodamas: are you also a potato in your spare time? |
| 01:37.19 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 01:38.03 | scanline | it's going to take some adjusting working somewhere that actually has money |
| 01:38.30 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:38.35 | ChipX86 | and a DDR! |
| 01:38.40 | laodamas | scanline: I was weirded out by it too |
| 01:38.42 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:38.58 | file | any place that has a DDR is worth visiting |
| 01:39.00 | ChipX86 | and yay, Porter has this nifty big screen TV and video games and library and comfy couches area next to the kitchen |
| 01:39.14 | file | ChipX86: you need to take me in for a tour! |
| 01:39.22 | ChipX86 | personally, I'll be hanging out at the pond a lot, or on the benches next to the fountains in one of the walkway areas |
| 01:39.39 | ChipX86 | file: when? |
| 01:39.53 | file | ChipX86: any time next week |
| 01:40.00 | ChipX86 | assuming I'm not sick, sure |
| 01:40.06 | file | bad sick bad |
| 01:40.29 | file | I think I'm in San Francisco one day mind you... |
| 01:40.34 | file | but eh |
| 01:40.55 | laodamas | Anyone here live in Arizona? |
| 01:41.42 | laodamas | didn't think so |
| 01:52.42 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 01:56.24 | ChipX86 | erm |
| 01:56.35 | ChipX86 | Nara's trying to join, and is apparently unauthorized to do so. Which makes no sense to me |
| 01:56.44 | ChipX86 | er wait |
| 01:56.48 | ChipX86 | nm :) |
| 01:56.57 | *** join/#tacobeam Nara (~Stardustc@adsl-66-122-185-170.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 01:57.00 | ChipX86 | heya |
| 01:57.15 | kergoth | hey Nara |
| 01:57.22 | Nara | 'Lo |
| 01:57.48 | darth_mall | gak! it's that one kid that knows ChipX86 again! |
| 01:58.10 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: scanline's about to be another one kid that knows ChipX86 again soon, if he gets a job around here |
| 01:58.19 | Nara | Hey, I ain't no kid. I'm a full grown woman, |
| 01:58.24 | ChipX86 | yes, exactly |
| 01:58.46 | Nara | O__O You crazy geeks |
| 01:58.51 | kergoth | yay, crazy |
| 01:58.52 | darth_mall | right, so... kid |
| 01:58.54 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 01:58.54 | kbot | kergoth: <Peter> [writing letter] Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog. |
| 01:58.58 | darth_mall | lol |
| 01:59.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:59.09 | darth_mall | kergoth: is kbot yours? |
| 01:59.11 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:59.14 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 01:59.17 | ChipX86 | woooo |
| 01:59.22 | darth_mall | oooow |
| 01:59.22 | ChipX86 | (17:58:42) grim: woohoo got my destroy mornings stuff :) |
| 01:59.23 | ChipX86 | (17:58:46) ChipX86: :D how is it? |
| 01:59.23 | ChipX86 | (17:59:01) grim: the sticker is smaller than i though but the shirt is nice :) |
| 01:59.25 | kergoth | the first thing i did was create a family guy quotes file for it |
| 01:59.35 | darth_mall | @futurama |
| 01:59.36 | kbot | darth_mall: <Bender> Oh, so, just 'cause a robot wants to kill humans that makes him a radical? |
| 01:59.44 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 01:59.58 | kergoth | hm |
| 02:00.04 | kergoth | @echo [futurama] |
| 02:00.06 | kbot | <Bender> Fathero! |
| 02:00.10 | darth_mall | kergoth: BTW, have you seen Robot Chicken? |
| 02:00.16 | kergoth | nope |
| 02:00.16 | ChipX86 | more people need to order Destroy Mornings shirts around here |
| 02:00.21 | kergoth | @echo [futurama] |
| 02:00.21 | kbot | <Fry> They're great! They're like sex except I'm having them. |
| 02:00.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:01.00 | darth_mall | kergoth: I hightly recommend you watch it, first eps on navi, tonight if possible =D |
| 02:01.02 | Nara | Robot Chicken rocks |
| 02:01.06 | kergoth | k |
| 02:01.07 | Nara | >__> |
| 02:01.14 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 02:01.15 | kbot | kergoth: If the Captain invited me to his party, after he had whipped me earlier in the day up on deck, I guess I'd go, but I'd try to find some excuse to leave early. |
| 02:01.27 | darth_mall | lol |
| 02:01.38 | darth_mall | is that Jack Handy? |
| 02:01.42 | kergoth | i think so, yes |
| 02:01.44 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 02:01.45 | kbot | kergoth: I think it should be a law that if you ever get sucked up into a tornado, whatever you can grab with your hands while you're swirling around up there, you get to keep. |
| 02:01.50 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:02.32 | darth_mall | lol |
| 02:03.37 | kergoth | @load fun |
| 02:03.38 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:03.40 | kergoth | @roulette |
| 02:03.41 | kbot | kergoth: *click* |
| 02:03.45 | kergoth | yay |
| 02:06.38 | darth_mall | @roulette |
| 02:06.38 | kbot | darth_mall: *click* |
| 02:06.41 | darth_mall | yay |
| 02:07.56 | kergoth | @load dict |
| 02:07.57 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:08.06 | kergoth | @dict test |
| 02:08.10 | kbot | kergoth: web1913, jargon, foldoc, and wn responded: web1913: Test \Test\, v. i. [L. testari. See {Testament}.] To make a testament, or will. [Obs.]; web1913: Test \Test\, n. [L. testis. Cf. {Testament}, {Testify}.] A witness. [Obs.] Prelates and great lords of England, who were for the more surety tests of that deed. --Ld. Berners; jargon: test n. 1. Real users bashing on a prototype long (18 more messages) |
| 02:08.18 | kergoth | @more |
| 02:08.18 | kbot | kergoth: enough to get thoroughly acquainted with it, with careful monitoring and followup of the results. 2. Some bored random user trying a couple of the simpler features with a developer looking over his or her shoulder, ready to pounce on mistakes. Judging by the quality of most software, the second definition is far more prevalent. See also {demo}; foldoc: test <testing> The process of exercising a (17 more messages) |
| 02:08.33 | kergoth | heh, thast a long definition |
| 02:08.56 | laodamas | @dict gullible |
| 02:08.58 | kbot | laodamas: web1913 and wn responded: web1913: Gullible \Gul"li*ble\, a. Easily gulled; that may be duped. -- {Gul"li*bii`i*ty}, n. --Burke; wn: gullible adj 1: naive and easily deceived or tricked; "at that early age she had been gullible and in love" [syn: {fleeceable}, {green}] 2: easily tricked because of being too trusting; "gullible tourists taken in by the shell game" |
| 02:10.51 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 02:10.54 | kergoth | @load time |
| 02:10.55 | kbot | kergoth: Error: Time is already loaded. |
| 02:11.12 | kergoth | @time %A |
| 02:11.13 | kbot | kergoth: Thursday |
| 02:11.25 | kergoth | @moobotfactoids [time %A] |
| 02:11.26 | kbot | kergoth: (moobotfactoids <command> [<args> ...]) -- Command dispatcher for the MoobotFactoids plugin. Use 'list MoobotFactoids' to see the commands provided by this plugin. Use 'config list plugins.MoobotFactoids' to see the configuration values for this plugin. In most cases this dispatcher command is unnecessary; in cases where more than one plugin defines a given command, use this command to tell the (1 more message) |
| 02:11.28 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:11.36 | kergoth | @[time %A]? |
| 02:11.36 | kbot | kergoth: Error: "Thursday" is not a valid command. |
| 02:11.42 | kergoth | @load moobotfactoids |
| 02:11.42 | kbot | kergoth: Error: Moobotfactoids is already loaded. |
| 02:11.48 | kergoth | @Thursday is blah |
| 02:11.49 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:11.51 | kergoth | @[time %A]? |
| 02:11.52 | kbot | Thursday is blah |
| 02:11.57 | kergoth | yay |
| 02:12.04 | kergoth | @Today is [time %A] |
| 02:12.05 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:12.10 | kergoth | @Today |
| 02:12.11 | kbot | Today is Thursday |
| 02:12.13 | kergoth | hrm |
| 02:12.15 | kergoth | @Today is [time %A]? |
| 02:12.16 | kbot | kergoth: Error: Factoid "Today" already exists. |
| 02:12.21 | kergoth | @Today is [[time %A]?] |
| 02:12.22 | kbot | kergoth: Error: Factoid "Today" already exists. |
| 02:12.23 | kergoth | @remove Today |
| 02:12.24 | kbot | kergoth: Error: The command remove is available in the Alias, Lart, Lookup, MoobotFactoids, Praise, Quote, RSS, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before remove. |
| 02:12.29 | kergoth | @moobotfactoids remove Today |
| 02:12.30 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:12.32 | kergoth | @Today is [[time %A]?] |
| 02:12.32 | kbot | The operation succeeded. |
| 02:12.35 | kergoth | @Today |
| 02:12.35 | kbot | Today is Thursday is blah |
| 02:12.38 | kergoth | eh |
| 02:12.41 | kergoth | @moobotfactoids remove Today |
| 02:12.41 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:12.48 | kergoth | @Today is [literal [time %A]] |
| 02:12.49 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:12.51 | kergoth | @Today |
| 02:12.51 | kbot | Today is blah |
| 02:12.55 | kergoth | yay for nested commands |
| 02:13.06 | kergoth | @moobotfactoids remove Thursday |
| 02:13.06 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:13.12 | kergoth | ~thursday |
| 02:13.13 | jbot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 02:13.39 | kergoth | @Thursday is <reply> <Arthur Dent> This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays. |
| 02:13.39 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:13.42 | kergoth | @Thursday |
| 02:13.43 | kbot | <Arthur Dent> This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays. |
| 02:13.47 | kergoth | @Today |
| 02:13.48 | kbot | Today is blah |
| 02:13.51 | kergoth | aw |
| 02:13.58 | kergoth | its evaluated at add time, not run time |
| 02:14.21 | kergoth | oh well |
| 02:14.27 | kergoth | anyway, enough spamming the channel |
| 02:15.01 | darth_mall | Hello friends. If you are watching this I am dead, and I bet you are pretty bummed. |
| 02:18.07 | kergoth | 21:17 <kbot> They say the mountain holds many secrets, but the biggest is this: "I am a fake mountain." |
| 02:18.23 | kergoth | boored |
| 02:18.25 | laodamas | http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article984906.ece |
| 02:19.02 | kergoth | laodamas: that's gotta suck |
| 02:19.56 | file | wow, lots of updates |
| 02:20.03 | laodamas | yep. I would have liked to hear their call to their insurance company |
| 02:20.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:20.20 | file | nice, up to dev4 |
| 02:20.22 | kergoth | I said a bad word when I understood the tank wasn't going to stop, when it was over me I can't remember what I thought, |
| 02:22.19 | file | somebody broke the SER build... nice |
| 02:27.32 | darth_mall | kergoth: are you Krafted with Luv by Monsters? |
| 02:28.10 | ChipX86 | yay, Philip and Regis like my new code. Took a while to convince them that I knew what I was doing with it, but once they realized, they were in favor :P |
| 02:32.41 | purple_cow | time to do something beautiful with chicken and chevre |
| 02:34.22 | ChipX86 | tv needs to hurry up and have shows on it |
| 02:44.46 | kergoth | darth_mall: why yes, yes i am. thanks for asking |
| 02:45.27 | ChipX86 | healthy dinner |
| 02:47.08 | ChipX86 | woohoo! |
| 02:48.25 | file | ooh the new database server is up... |
| 02:48.51 | kergoth | ChipX86: ? |
| 02:49.03 | ChipX86 | got the bug I've been fighting all day for the release |
| 02:49.14 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:49.17 | file | was it a silly bug? |
| 02:49.42 | file | hrm why do we not have more hardrive space |
| 02:49.45 | darth_mall | sounds like kergoth is trying to tempt me to come visit =D |
| 02:49.52 | file | I thought it was supposed to have 4 200GB SCSI drives... |
| 02:49.55 | darth_mall | go ChipX86! |
| 02:50.01 | ChipX86 | nope, but it was silly that the bug existed in the first place |
| 02:50.44 | darth_mall | go ChipX86! |
| 03:02.53 | darth_mall | hmm... someone killed JeffM |
| 03:11.58 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:24.52 | ChipX86 | heh, Jamie loves her computer. She's now starting to customize it |
| 03:25.04 | file | maybe a mustache... |
| 03:25.07 | ChipX86 | aside from a few minor things, Linux is working out very well there |
| 03:25.17 | ChipX86 | file: oh no! |
| 03:25.21 | ChipX86 | I am mustached Chippy |
| 03:28.54 | purple_cow | grr |
| 03:28.59 | purple_cow | my stupid nose is all stuffy :( |
| 03:29.17 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: now don't you get sick too |
| 03:29.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: if i do, it's darth_mall's fault |
| 03:29.53 | darth_mall | must be |
| 03:32.06 | ChipX86 | o/~ DARTH_MALL! DARTH_MALL! Infectinating the countryside.. Infectinating all the people.. o/~ |
| 03:32.17 | purple_cow | good song |
| 03:32.28 | ChipX86 | it just came to me |
| 03:32.55 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 03:33.03 | purple_cow | so what am i going to do once my food is ready? :P |
| 03:33.08 | ChipX86 | eat it? |
| 03:33.08 | purple_cow | (besides eat it) |
| 03:33.10 | ChipX86 | awww |
| 03:33.15 | ChipX86 | she left |
| 03:38.12 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 03:38.25 | purple_cow | maybe i should have waited until this cheese was less molten to cut this... |
| 03:39.20 | purple_cow | mmmmmmm |
| 03:39.22 | purple_cow | damn i'm good :) |
| 03:42.08 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:42.17 | scanline | what did you make? |
| 03:42.29 | purple_cow | chicken stuffed with chevre, chives and bell pepper |
| 03:44.05 | purple_cow | and i have half the thing of chevre left over, for bagels :) |
| 03:54.16 | purple_cow | kergoth: care to search for the soundtracks to the insider and nadro? |
| 03:57.27 | kergoth | woo! |
| 03:57.32 | kergoth | the ubernet training server is back |
| 03:57.33 | kergoth | :D |
| 03:57.34 | kergoth | will do |
| 03:57.35 | darth_mall | we should get a copy of The Insider |
| 04:01.21 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 04:01.21 | kbot | kergoth: I'm not sure it's good to think back to my childhood memories, because I end up feeling happy and sad at the same time, and that gives me a weird "neutral" feeling. |
| 04:01.32 | darth_mall | @futurama |
| 04:01.33 | kbot | darth_mall: <Bender> Aw, this bends! |
| 04:01.41 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:01.41 | darth_mall | heh... not quite what I was hoping for, but ok |
| 04:01.50 | kergoth | @futurama |
| 04:01.50 | kbot | kergoth: <Fry> You mean Bender is the evil Bender? I'm shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked. |
| 04:03.15 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 04:03.16 | kbot | kergoth: <Peter> Hey, Lois, look! The two symbols of the Republican party: an elephant and a big fat white guy who's threatened by change. |
| 04:08.43 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:16.16 | ChipX86 | salad, how could you?! You were supposed to be my friend :( |
| 04:29.29 | scanline | purple_cow: you could bring it to spacegrant and we could party down |
| 04:29.45 | ChipX86 | wine sounds good. Wonder how sick I'll get. |
| 04:29.50 | purple_cow | you could come home and we could party down |
| 04:30.09 | purple_cow | which is somewhat less murphy-inviting than doing it on campus |
| 04:30.24 | purple_cow | cwisty: i think it would take a lot more than a glass or two of wine to get scanline drunk ;) |
| 04:30.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: naw, you just need an empty syrup bottle for that ^^ |
| 04:30.36 | darth_mall | partying on campus, that is |
| 04:30.49 | darth_mall | and I've got a completely unopened bottle of Irish Cream ^^ |
| 04:31.02 | darth_mall | which would be more than enough |
| 04:31.18 | scanline | oh no, drunk |
| 04:31.29 | scanline | maybe we should do that some day when I don't have two interviews the next day... |
| 04:31.44 | darth_mall | naw, being hungover for an interview is a sure fire way to get hired |
| 04:31.46 | cwisty | giggle |
| 04:31.57 | scanline | tomorrow on the other hand... |
| 04:32.05 | scanline | it seems to be one of those 'friday' thingies |
| 04:32.07 | darth_mall | it's the only possibly explanation for why business majors get jobs |
| 04:32.14 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:32.22 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:32.24 | cwisty | no way |
| 04:32.28 | cwisty | you're a Boulderite |
| 04:32.31 | cwisty | Thursday is bar night |
| 04:32.32 | purple_cow | i wonder if there are any worthwhile concerts tomorrow |
| 04:32.34 | ChipX86 | yeah, don't get drunk for the interview. You'd hvae plenty of opportunities to get drunk AT work |
| 04:32.41 | cwisty | you must be an engineer |
| 04:32.44 | scanline | :) |
| 04:32.54 | cwisty | the rest of campus drinks Thursday night |
| 04:32.58 | ChipX86 | which reminds me, tomorrow is beer bash |
| 04:33.03 | scanline | aha |
| 04:33.08 | ChipX86 | sucks that I'm probably not staying the whole day |
| 04:33.28 | scanline | gah.. functions aren't first class objects in C#? |
| 04:33.42 | purple_cow | not normal functions |
| 04:33.44 | scanline | I guess that's what delegates are for... but still |
| 04:33.45 | scanline | bleh! |
| 04:33.52 | purple_cow | that's what delegates are for |
| 04:34.00 | ChipX86 | you can use attributes to mark up functions |
| 04:34.07 | ChipX86 | but I have no idea what you want to do |
| 04:34.27 | scanline | I'm writing a deserializer in which you need to be able to register callbacks for events |
| 04:34.29 | purple_cow | egads! so the only concert tomorrow is the "US Army Brass Quintet" |
| 04:34.31 | scanline | kinda SAX-ish |
| 04:34.38 | kergoth | scanline: can you add a filter dealy for CIA notifications for my random misc projects that i host on my linode? hmm, dunno what to call it though |
| 04:34.41 | purple_cow | (why the hell are they playing in a CU-music sponsored concert?) |
| 04:34.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:34.49 | purple_cow | kergoth: what's the hostname? :) |
| 04:34.56 | kergoth | covenant |
| 04:35.01 | purple_cow | covenant-misc? :) |
| 04:35.08 | kergoth | (courtesy Thomas Covenant The Unbeliever.. good books) |
| 04:35.10 | kergoth | heh, thatd do |
| 04:35.18 | purple_cow | it would fit with the theme... |
| 04:35.24 | purple_cow | navi-misc, rex-misc, osiris-misc... |
| 04:35.31 | kergoth | that works, do that |
| 04:35.33 | ChipX86 | trinity breaks that :) |
| 04:35.38 | scanline | mwahaha, lookit the trend I started! |
| 04:35.47 | purple_cow | which i think goes to prove that as a group, #tacobeam writes a lot of miscellaneous code |
| 04:35.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:35.52 | kergoth | indeed |
| 04:35.54 | scanline | yep |
| 04:35.58 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 04:36.09 | scanline | maybe we just need to do a <find path="/message/source/project">misc</find> for this channel |
| 04:36.23 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 04:36.26 | purple_cow | heh |
| 04:36.41 | scanline | or even better, <find path="/">misc</find> |
| 04:36.58 | scanline | if that even works.. |
| 04:37.02 | scanline | you might need at least the /message |
| 04:38.09 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:38.45 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 04:38.47 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 04:39.47 | ChipX86 | oh, maybe this isn't my fault |
| 04:42.25 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 04:42.28 | purple_cow | sexy new splash |
| 04:45.05 | kergoth | For every government X there is at least one government Y such that X would claim that Y is a bunch of corrupt assholes. Since every government is a bunch of corrupt assholes, every government is right at least in one of its claims. |
| 04:45.09 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.55 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 04:48.00 | purple_cow | intel's new chips look sexy :) |
| 04:48.17 | purple_cow | wowie, they even showed off montecito at IDF |
| 04:51.00 | kergoth | @fortune |
| 04:51.01 | kbot | kergoth: Error: I couldn't find the fortune command on this system. If it is installed on this system, reconfigure the supybot.plugins.Unix.fortune.command configuration variable appropriately. |
| 04:51.03 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:51.16 | kergoth | ah, silly ubuntu |
| 04:51.22 | kergoth | @config supybot.plugins.Unix.fortune.command /usr/games/fortune |
| 04:51.23 | kbot | kergoth: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:51.26 | kergoth | @fortune |
| 04:51.26 | kbot | kergoth: Every why hath a wherefore. -- William Shakespeare, "A Comedy of Errors" |
| 04:51.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:51.35 | kergoth | @fortune kernelnewbies |
| 04:51.36 | kbot | kergoth: Q:What do little WASPs want to be when they grow up? A:The very best person they can possibly be. |
| 04:51.39 | kergoth | hm |
| 04:51.45 | kergoth | doesnt support specifying a fortune file |
| 04:51.46 | kergoth | should add that |
| 04:51.53 | kergoth | @fortune |
| 04:51.54 | kbot | kergoth: "Not Hercules could have knock'd out his brains, for he had none." -- Shakespeare |
| 05:01.02 | scanline | are anonymous delegates in C# lexically scoped? |
| 05:02.55 | scanline | oh. I don't think mono even supports anonymous delegates yet |
| 05:02.56 | scanline | that's crappy |
| 05:03.07 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: :( |
| 05:03.25 | ChipX86 | I'd entertain you if I could! |
| 05:04.07 | ChipX86 | it's only 21:05? ugh |
| 05:04.15 | scanline | oh, maybe it does |
| 05:04.16 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:04.20 | scanline | ChipX86: only? |
| 05:04.31 | ChipX86 | I thought it was a lot later than that |
| 05:04.34 | ChipX86 | I feel exhausted |
| 05:07.51 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 05:08.00 | purple_cow | the new makehuman gui is awesome :) |
| 05:08.36 | purple_cow | http://www.dedalo-3d.com/index.php?filename=SXCOL/makehuman/news/mahehuman20winter01_is_out.html |
| 05:09.02 | purple_cow | it's a shame the current release is so underfeatured |
| 05:15.39 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r5 10libfoo/README: Test trigger. |
| 05:15.45 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r6 10libfoo/README: Test trigger. |
| 05:16.28 | scanline | purple_cow: wow |
| 05:20.33 | scanline | yay, my delegates work |
| 05:20.44 | scanline | they're just way uglier than if I had anonymous delegates with lexical scoping |
| 05:21.32 | ChipX86 | yay, the new Netscape browser is ugly, though less ugly than the old screenshot |
| 05:21.57 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:22.06 | purple_cow | i dunno what they were smoking with the position of the menu bar |
| 05:22.39 | scanline | screenshot? |
| 05:22.51 | ChipX86 | http://betanewscache.ord.cachefly.net/betanews/articles/1109870204/netscape8beta.png |
| 05:22.53 | scanline | / Put user code to initialize the page here |
| 05:22.57 | scanline | ^ I hate that |
| 05:23.04 | purple_cow | scanline: hehehe |
| 05:23.27 | scanline | ChipX86: um.. huh... |
| 05:23.31 | ChipX86 | wow.. yeah.. the menubar should NOT go in the titlebar |
| 05:23.38 | scanline | ChipX86: looks like an audio mixer from 1998 or so |
| 05:23.43 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 05:24.17 | ChipX86 | now I consider myself an intelligent person |
| 05:24.23 | ChipX86 | well versed in the various forms of UIs |
| 05:24.37 | ChipX86 | but aside from a couple of buttons on there, and the menubar, I have no idea what anything does in their UI |
| 05:25.12 | ChipX86 | the little > next to the tabs, the "Top 1 2 3 4 5 v" section.. I can guess the weather and webmail and news and stuff, I guess |
| 05:25.31 | ChipX86 | the icons next to the address bar, which is really not long enough for an address, make little sense to me |
| 05:25.36 | purple_cow | that button top right looks like print... |
| 05:25.47 | ChipX86 | yeah, if you squint |
| 05:25.54 | ChipX86 | does the erase button erase the webpage from existence? |
| 05:26.09 | purple_cow | yes! |
| 05:26.10 | scanline | that button with the person's head and the "010101" stuff probably has something to do with The Matrix |
| 05:26.18 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 05:26.23 | purple_cow | scanline: my guess was that it turned you into a robot, but either is possible |
| 05:26.38 | ChipX86 | maybe both are right |
| 05:26.39 | purple_cow | that 'new tab' thing is kind of cute, even though it's ugly |
| 05:26.46 | scanline | purple_cow: :) |
| 05:26.51 | ChipX86 | got to love how it sticks the "RSS" thing directly in the menubar |
| 05:27.10 | ChipX86 | I like the idea of an RSS indicator, but shouldn't that be in the status bar or something? You can't even se the full domain name |
| 05:27.20 | scanline | the individual pieces are generally good looking, but damn that's a cluttered and useless-looking UI |
| 05:27.39 | ChipX86 | they got some no-talent kid working on it |
| 05:27.43 | ChipX86 | with no real-world experience |
| 05:27.56 | purple_cow | the drop-down arrow thingydos would make fitts cry |
| 05:28.32 | ChipX86 | I wish I knew what the Top 1 2 3 4 5 indicator was |
| 05:28.36 | ChipX86 | I can't figure it out |
| 05:28.53 | purple_cow | you could download the beta and find out :) |
| 05:29.09 | ChipX86 | I could, but I'd be afraid of spyware being bundled with it :) |
| 05:29.39 | ChipX86 | I love the comments on the page |
| 05:29.44 | ChipX86 | "Attractive design and color" |
| 05:31.06 | ChipX86 | oohhh |
| 05:31.11 | ChipX86 | Tim Burton is having a yard sale |
| 05:31.28 | ChipX86 | oh it's a joke. A funny one though |
| 05:31.44 | scanline | owww |
| 05:31.53 | scanline | this race condition hurts |
| 05:34.27 | scanline | I bet darth_mall's a loser baby |
| 05:35.44 | purple_cow | ok, time to go buy ice crema |
| 05:38.42 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r1 10/ (branches/ tags/ trunk/ trunk/unikmap/): Add initial structure. |
| 05:38.58 | ChipX86 | yay r1 |
| 05:39.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:40.14 | scanline | :) |
| 05:40.40 | hardwire | raid over pcmcia is quite slow |
| 05:40.42 | hardwire | :) |
| 05:41.00 | kergoth | decided to get off my lazy ass and do that keyboard access library i've been wanting, first step is keymapping implemented as filters on streams of utf8 data |
| 05:41.42 | hardwire | like an hour ago.. |
| 05:41.44 | hardwire | still waiting.. |
| 05:41.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:43.35 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 05:43.36 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r2 10unikmap/ (33 files in 10 dirs): Attempting an svk merge from libfoo to unikmap as a means of applying my library template. |
| 05:43.42 | kergoth | sweet |
| 05:43.45 | kergoth | svk rules |
| 05:44.22 | hardwire | oh yeh |
| 05:44.25 | kergoth | so now i can use svk to apply updates to my library source template to the packages that use it cleanly |
| 05:44.27 | hardwire | I should check out the openoffice beta |
| 05:44.39 | kergoth | s/to my lib/from my lib/ |
| 05:45.11 | hardwire | w/o any fsking |
| 05:45.38 | hardwire | and move what.. /var/run.. /var/log w/ a very scrutinizing logrotate and /tmp into a 10 meg tmpfs |
| 05:45.40 | ChipX86 | wow, that was an odd thing.. |
| 05:45.41 | hardwire | maybe 1 meg |
| 05:46.04 | ChipX86 | I did a control-L to go to a location, and without thinking, I typed ~/zaurus |
| 05:46.18 | ChipX86 | I haven't done that in a very long time. I wonder what caused that thought process |
| 05:46.21 | kergoth | weird |
| 05:46.41 | hardwire | kergoth: so busybox has a spiffy syslog? |
| 05:47.14 | kergoth | it gets the job done |
| 05:47.23 | kergoth | i've never tried it for actual file logs |
| 05:47.53 | hardwire | ok |
| 05:47.59 | hardwire | I thjink I should continue using syslog |
| 05:48.16 | hardwire | and only enable *.* @syslog-server |
| 05:48.25 | hardwire | or *.* @multicastaddress |
| 05:48.33 | ChipX86 | heh, have you guys seen this SBC commercial where the wife goes in to get dressed and music plays in the background o/~ She's wondering what clothes to wear.. <skip> She's wondering what clothes to wear .. o/~ and she goes out and tells the husband to knock it off? :) |
| 05:49.05 | hardwire | ? |
| 05:49.11 | hardwire | knock what off? |
| 05:49.28 | ChipX86 | he was playing this song and then skipping back to that spot in the song over and over |
| 05:49.33 | hardwire | heh |
| 05:49.42 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.46 | ChipX86 | because she was in there a while trying to figure out what to wear, and it looked like they were late for some formal thing or something |
| 05:49.53 | ChipX86 | guess you'd have to see it, but it was funny |
| 05:50.00 | hardwire | kergoth: taken a high oscillation vibrator after your peircing yet? |
| 05:50.13 | hardwire | like one of those super quick toothbrushes? |
| 05:51.31 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r7 10libfoo/ (configure.ac doc/Doxyfile): Cleanup. Kill the old Doxyfile and fix the email address in the AC_INIT(). |
| 05:52.20 | kergoth | hardwire: heh, no |
| 05:52.46 | kergoth | i'll be happy when the swelling goes down |
| 05:52.50 | kergoth | apparently its supposed to last 7-10 days |
| 05:53.41 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r3 10unikmap/ (. configure.ac doc/Doxyfile): Library template updates. |
| 05:56.47 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r4 10unikmap/ (11 files in 5 dirs): Lots of libfoo -> unikmap updates. |
| 05:57.10 | hardwire | kergoth: doh |
| 05:57.55 | hardwire | hmmphpghpm |
| 05:58.00 | ChipX86 | anime in svg is not easy |
| 05:58.02 | hardwire | grub speaks cramfs right? |
| 05:58.05 | hardwire | maybe not |
| 06:01.49 | hardwire | I guess I might be checking out unionfs |
| 06:03.33 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07putty-0.57 * r2 10/ (265 files in 14 dirs): Import putty 0.57 into my 'vendor branch' svn repo. |
| 06:05.47 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r3 10putty/ (126 files in 7 dirs): Populate the trunk of the vendor branch. |
| 06:06.07 | ChipX86 | I should dump my art into svn |
| 06:06.12 | ChipX86 | so I can sync between computers and not lose things |
| 06:06.34 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:07.30 | hardwire | ChipX86: I usually use unison for that |
| 06:07.37 | hardwire | but having a constant art backup would be nice |
| 06:07.53 | hardwire | putting a maildir into svn would be kinda nice as well |
| 06:07.54 | hardwire | heh |
| 06:08.10 | hardwire | oh god.. the cats gone looney. |
| 06:09.23 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r5 10unikmap/src/charset/: Add charset lib dir. |
| 06:10.11 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r6 10unikmap/src/charset/ (17 files): Do an smerge to pull the putty charset library into unikmap. God I love svk. |
| 06:11.32 | scanline | yay, an smerge |
| 06:12.08 | kergoth | its awesome |
| 06:14.49 | purple_cow | "a smerge" is a much cooler way to say it than "an smerge" |
| 06:15.01 | scanline | an parrot! |
| 06:15.37 | purple_cow | a nfs server problem? |
| 06:16.20 | scanline | hm? |
| 06:16.49 | kergoth | anyone remember how to do convenience libraries w/ automake and libtool? |
| 06:16.53 | purple_cow | still missing files :( |
| 06:17.06 | scanline | hah |
| 06:17.07 | scanline | [<built-in function ctime>] Transformed FAM event: '/media/video/anime/The_Twelve_Kingdoms' reported '22_sea_of_the_wind-shore_of_the_labyrinth-chapter_of_correspondence.mkv' 'changed' |
| 06:17.13 | scanline | I forgot to call ctime() it seems... |
| 06:17.38 | purple_cow | scanline: huh, weird, but it's missing 23-30 in that directory... |
| 06:18.11 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7186 10spreadfs/spreadfs.py: Timestamps work better if I call ctime() rather than formatting the function itself in a string |
| 06:18.31 | scanline | purple_cow: it never got FAM events past 22, it seems |
| 06:18.38 | scanline | were those on a different disk? |
| 06:18.45 | purple_cow | they're all on 08... |
| 06:18.52 | purple_cow | silly fam :P |
| 06:18.54 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:19.00 | scanline | yea |
| 06:23.02 | kergoth | mm, guinness |
| 06:25.41 | purple_cow | wow, dell 2405 looks gorgeous |
| 06:27.00 | ChipX86 | wowwee, look at all the ubuntu updates |
| 06:27.35 | hardwire | I just wish it didn't say dell on it |
| 06:28.49 | purple_cow | hardwire: surely there are ways around that |
| 06:28.56 | hardwire | stickers |
| 06:45.34 | scanline | destiny! |
| 06:46.34 | ChipX86 | grumble.. the cursor gets stuck in gimp when using the tablet and I still can't find the fix |
| 06:50.10 | ChipX86 | ahh, a work-around |
| 06:50.14 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 06:50.19 | ChipX86 | if I tap hard in the workspace, then I get my cursor back |
| 06:50.29 | ChipX86 | guess it needs a max pressure level sometimes to go back to an up state |
| 06:52.13 | kergoth | note: trying to do expansion inside of AC_OUTPUT() is a pain in the ass |
| 06:52.26 | kergoth | (i.e. automatically emitting the right .pc filename based on the libtool 'release' version) |
| 06:52.47 | kergoth | woot! got it |
| 06:53.12 | kergoth | AC_CONFIG_FILES([unikmap-]UNIKMAP_LT_REL[.pc:unikmap.pc.in]) |
| 06:53.14 | kergoth | :D |
| 06:53.41 | kergoth | purple_cow: heh, i didnt like that in the glib build, they have to manually modify the glib-2.0 thing in a crapload of places. |
| 06:53.59 | kergoth | i have it setup so that if i change from unikmap-0.0 to unikmap-0.1, i just modify one m4 macro in config/version.m4 |
| 06:54.03 | kergoth | thats it. |
| 06:54.07 | kergoth | makefile rules, .pc, everything adapts |
| 06:54.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:54.19 | purple_cow | kergoth: my statement stands |
| 06:54.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:54.35 | kergoth | i'm picky about my buildsystems. and i'm lazy. |
| 06:55.11 | ChipX86 | grr that doesn't always work. This is so frustrating |
| 06:56.44 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r8 10libfoo/configure.ac: Adjust the LT_RELEASE in .pc filename handling to work a bit better. Now the ake clean/distclean/maintainer-clean are able to remove the substituted .pc filename correctly. |
| 06:58.07 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r7 10unikmap/ (. configure.ac): Merge the latest libfoo updates which fix the .pc release version handling. |
| 07:00.21 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r8 10unikmap/ (Makefile.am m4/external/check.m4): Add local check.m4 so unikmap builds without check installed, and do a s/foo/unikmap/ that I missed. |
| 07:01.00 | darth_mall | yay bed time |
| 07:01.02 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r9 10unikmap/ChangeLog: Update ChangeLog per the latest changes. |
| 07:01.48 | kergoth | AHH |
| 07:01.55 | kergoth | NONE:0: /usr/bin/m4: ERROR: EOF in string |
| 07:02.04 | kergoth | the absolute worst possible m4 error |
| 07:02.13 | kergoth | since it doesnt report the line number. |
| 07:02.15 | kergoth | it can be _anywhere_ |
| 07:02.18 | kergoth | :( |
| 07:02.33 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:02.53 | kergoth | fuck |
| 07:02.53 | kergoth | gah |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r10 10unikmap/configure.ac: Correct a typo in the m4 quoting that resulted in m4 sh*tting itself in an ugly fashion and emitting a completely useless error message. |
| 07:05.04 | kergoth | whew |
| 07:07.42 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r9 10libfoo/configure.ac: Correct a typo in the m4 quoting that resulted in m4 sh*tting itself in an ugly fashion and emitting a completely useless error message. |
| 07:09.16 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r11 10unikmap/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add putty's charset library to the build, as libpcharset. |
| 07:10.05 | ChipX86 | stupid wacom tablet |
| 07:13.14 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r12 10unikmap/src/ (Makefile.am binreloc.c binreloc.h main.c main.h): Kill some libfoo remnants. |
| 07:14.39 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r10 10libfoo/ (ChangeLog doc/doxygen/Makefile.am): Fix the doxygen Makefile.am to not fail horribly when doxygen isnt enabled or available. |
| 07:19.16 | purple_cow | hehe, yay nat |
| 07:19.22 | purple_cow | he's had the best splash idea i've ever heard |
| 07:20.00 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r13 10unikmap/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Add svn:ignore properties. |
| 07:20.05 | ChipX86 | hah yep |
| 07:27.51 | ChipX86 | screw it. |
| 07:28.05 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:28.15 | ChipX86 | the wacom tablet |
| 07:28.22 | kergoth | ah. |
| 07:28.23 | ChipX86 | when combined with the gimp, the powers of suckage are unstoppable |
| 07:30.24 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r1 10/ (branches/ tags/ trunk/): Create initial repo structure. |
| 07:30.52 | ChipX86 | uh oh? |
| 07:31.02 | ChipX86 | why did your repository die? |
| 07:32.15 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r2 10rtctest/ (28 files in 4 dirs): Import version 0.1 of rtctest, my unit tests for testing Linux real time clock drivers via the /dev/misc/rtc character device interface. Uses 'check' (http://check.sourceforge.net/). |
| 07:32.40 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07rtctest-0.1 * r3 10/: Tag rtctest 0.1. |
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| 07:34.37 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r4 10rtctest/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Import rtctest 0.2. |
| 07:34.51 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07rtctest-0.2 * r5 10/ (19 files in 2 dirs): Tag rtctest 0.2. |
| 07:35.26 | ChipX86 | why the repo recreate? |
| 07:35.53 | kergoth | it didnt, that was a new repo |
| 07:36.08 | ChipX86 | that's nice and confusing |
| 07:36.15 | kergoth | it was a level up, so the cia regex didnt show the name |
| 07:36.16 | kergoth | nod |
| 07:40.28 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r4 10putty/ (206 files in 15 dirs): Update the trunk of my putty vendor branch to a current snapshot. |
| 07:40.54 | kergoth | they're coming in order. |
| 07:41.16 | kergoth | its just that they're seperate repositories on this box |
| 07:41.19 | kergoth | not one big repo |
| 07:41.21 | kergoth | different layout. |
| 07:41.31 | kergoth | should probably have used one, less hassle |
| 07:41.33 | purple_cow | pfft |
| 07:41.33 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:42.10 | CIA-3 | *purr* |
| 07:42.16 | kergoth | heh, thats how my bk bits work |
| 07:42.26 | kergoth | openembedded.bkbits.net is one project, but has multiple repositories. |
| 07:42.34 | kergoth | seperate versioning, etc |
| 07:42.40 | kergoth | so am used to it |
| 07:42.59 | purple_cow | i didn't say "you're not used to it!", i said "it's silly" |
| 07:48.52 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r2 10/trunk/ (31 files in 10 dirs): Pull libfoo into misc from its repo. |
| 07:50.06 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r3 10/trunk/ (25 files in 14 dirs): Fix the trunk layout. |
| 07:51.31 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07putty-0.57 * r4 10/: Prep for the smerge of putty-0.57 from its repo. |
| 07:52.25 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07putty-0.57 * r5 10/ (264 files in 14 dirs): Smerge putty 0.57 from its repo. |
| 07:53.29 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r6 10unikmap/: Add unikmap dir in preparation for the smerges. |
| 07:54.10 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r7 10unikmap/ (32 files in 10 dirs): Do the libfoo -> unikmap smerge to set things up. |
| 07:55.05 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r5 10graphics/ (. art/ art/blender/ art/fyre/ art/vector/): Build the graphics structure. |
| 07:55.30 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r8 10unikmap/ (38 files in 9 dirs): Smerge unikmap from its repo. |
| 07:57.27 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r9 10putty/: Add putty directory in preparation for the smerge of the putty trunk vendor |
| 07:58.09 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r10 10putty/ (357 files in 25 dirs): Do the smerge of the trunk of putty from its repo. |
| 07:58.51 | ChipX86 | we need a thumbnailer for blender :) |
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| 08:02.08 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r11 10rtctest/ (28 files in 4 dirs): Import rtctest 0.1. |
| 08:02.37 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07rtctest-0.1 * r12 10/: Tag rtctest 0.1. |
| 08:02.59 | ChipX86 | wish I could put my vmware art in svn |
| 08:03.13 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r13 10rtctest/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Import rtctest 0.2. |
| 08:04.36 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth 07rtctest-0.2 * r14 10/: Tag rtctest 0.2. |
| 08:05.44 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r6 10graphics/art/fyre/ (30 files): Add Fyre renders. |
| 08:05.50 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 08:06.21 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r7 10graphics/art/vector/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Add the vector art. |
| 08:08.09 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r15 10unikmap/ (foo.pc.in include/foo.h): Kill a couple remnants from the libfoo smerge. |
| 08:15.36 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r16 10unikmap/ (Makefile.am charset/ src/Makefile.am src/charset/): Move the putty charset lib out of src/ so it doesn't get hit by doxygen. |
| 08:15.43 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r8 10graphics/art/fyre/discs_and_strings.png: Despite the suckage, let's add this one too. |
| 08:22.14 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r9 10graphics/art/blender/ (23 files in 2 dirs): Add the blender work, even the things I never finished. |
| 08:23.45 | CIA-3 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r10 10graphics/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Add a projects directory. Currently, it consists of Destroy Mornings, and an ignore for vmware (since I don't think I can put that in here). |
| 08:24.01 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:24.02 | purple_cow | aww |
| 08:24.20 | ChipX86 | I always feel like it's wrong to stuff a bunch of graphics into svn and stuff |
| 08:26.07 | ChipX86 | I hate it when people stick simple cartoon drawings into the vector group on deviantart when they're not vectors |
| 08:27.48 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i only put them in svn if it's something i'll actually want to modify later on :P |
| 08:32.20 | ChipX86 | awww it's so cute and odd |
| 08:38.28 | kergoth | hrm |
| 08:42.52 | scanline | yay for cwisty finding my reno reimbursement in my mailbox |
| 08:44.23 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:44.29 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 08:47.02 | purple_cow | woo! i have sudafed! |
| 08:48.52 | kergoth | hmm, re2c is cool |
| 08:50.18 | purple_cow | re2c? |
| 08:50.59 | kergoth | ~re2c |
| 08:51.00 | jbot | Fast and flexible lexer generator. URL: http://www.tildeslash.org/re2c/index.html |
| 08:56.13 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 08:56.14 | kbot | kergoth: People think it would be fun to be a bird because you could fly. But they forget the negative side, which is the preening. |
| 09:17.08 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/15745456/ |
| 09:21.13 | purple_cow | ChipX86: awesome :D |
| 09:21.28 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:21.32 | ChipX86 | inkscape is fun |
| 09:27.14 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 09:27.47 | purple_cow | sleep... |
| 09:27.51 | purple_cow | that sounds like an excellent idea |
| 09:30.19 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07fyre-1.0 * r7187 10/contrib/fyre.spec: new version, 'cuz the packager forgot about openexr/gnet |
| 09:31.03 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7188 10fyre/web/news.content: link to the new rpms |
| 09:37.10 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 09:37.14 | purple_cow | time for almost 9 hours of sleep! |
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| 15:14.09 | CIA-3 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10classres/ (4 files): Eh... let's put up the latest code... bug fixes here and there |
| 15:32.07 | pagefault | @deepthought |
| 15:32.09 | kbot | pagefault: I think a good novel would be where a bunch of men on a ship are looking for a whale. They look and look, but you know what? They never find him. And you know why they never find him? It doesn't say. The book leaves it up to you, the reader, to decide. Then, at the very end, there's a page that can lick and it tastes like Kool-Aid. |
| 15:32.38 | pagefault | lol |
| 15:46.12 | pagefault | @deepthought |
| 15:46.13 | kbot | pagefault: Probably one of the main problems with owning a robot is when you want him to go out in the snow to get the paper, he doesn't want to go because it's so cold, so you have to get out your whip and start whipping him, and the kids start crying, and oh why did I ever get this stupid robot? |
| 15:55.33 | pagefault | @deepthought |
| 15:55.33 | kbot | pagefault: I only played hooky one time, so I'll never forget it. I hid in the bushes right outside my classroom. And since the window was open, I could hear the teacher, so I went ahead and took notes. When the teacher asked a question, I raised my hand, but she couldn't see me. |
| 16:31.17 | darth_mall | hmm... better head off to class |
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| 16:49.37 | ChipX86 | yay, lookie at all the happy American Grub comments |
| 18:03.23 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:08.36 | hardwire | goint to st paul again today |
| 18:08.37 | hardwire | whoop |
| 18:08.38 | hardwire | de |
| 18:08.39 | hardwire | fuck |
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| 18:14.17 | darth_mall | ~spell balk |
| 18:14.21 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 18:15.32 | hardwire | balk like a chicken? |
| 18:15.50 | hardwire | balk balk balk |
| 18:17.57 | hardwire | balk |
| 18:18.04 | hardwire | wheres my per diem bitches! |
| 18:21.15 | kergoth | @join #devlounge |
| 18:28.20 | hardwire | quick like a bunny! |
| 18:32.32 | hardwire | QUIEEEEEEEEEEEEEECK like a bunny! |
| 18:33.10 | hardwire | the people at taco bell |
| 18:33.16 | hardwire | quick like a bunny |
| 18:33.22 | hardwire | the people at fedex |
| 18:33.24 | hardwire | quick like a bunny |
| 18:33.31 | hardwire | the people at ups |
| 18:33.36 | hardwire | quick like a turtle |
| 18:33.47 | hardwire | </jabbering> |
| 18:34.03 | hardwire | hasta la pasta |
| 18:34.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:34.23 | darth_mall | uhoh... looks like hardwire's been hittin' the crack again |
| 18:41.33 | kergoth | @futurama |
| 18:41.34 | kbot | kergoth: <Fry> People said I was dumb but I proved them! |
| 18:41.37 | kergoth | yay |
| 19:08.31 | darth_mall | grrr... I hate this book |
| 19:12.32 | purple_cow | yipes, time to leave |
| 19:19.05 | darth_mall | nice encodes ^^ |
| 19:22.39 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r17 10unikmap/TODO: Add TODO. |
| 19:23.45 | darth_mall | TODO! |
| 19:24.27 | kergoth | indeed |
| 19:24.32 | darth_mall | yep |
| 19:24.42 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:24.44 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 19:24.46 | kbot | kergoth: <Lois> I care about the size of your penis as much as you care about the size of my breasts. <Peter> Oh my God! (runs off crying) |
| 19:24.46 | darth_mall | mmhmm |
| 19:25.27 | darth_mall | @familyguy |
| 19:25.28 | kbot | darth_mall: <Stewie> You know, I rather like this God fellow. Very theatrical, you know. Pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence ... gotta get me some of that. |
| 19:25.32 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:29.33 | Samy | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx |
| 19:31.07 | kergoth | yay, stewie |
| 19:33.44 | ChipX86 | how is the scanline? |
| 19:33.55 | darth_mall | I think he's still asleep |
| 19:34.10 | ChipX86 | but he has an interview, does he not? |
| 19:34.14 | ChipX86 | or two? |
| 19:34.21 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 19:34.44 | slimspace | I thought google was gonna call him |
| 19:35.04 | ChipX86 | google AND vmware |
| 19:35.18 | ChipX86 | I'd wake him up :) |
| 19:35.51 | slimspace | bah, class |
| 19:35.55 | darth_mall | silly slimspace |
| 19:43.16 | ChipX86 | was he supposed to call at 12:00 your time or mine? |
| 19:47.04 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 19:47.07 | darth_mall | the phone hasn't rung since I"ve been home |
| 19:47.11 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 19:47.14 | darth_mall | or do you mean scanline is supposed to call |
| 19:47.24 | ChipX86 | no |
| 19:47.28 | ChipX86 | they're supposed toc all scanline |
| 19:47.55 | darth_mall | mk |
| 19:47.59 | darth_mall | well, he's got a phone in his room |
| 19:48.05 | darth_mall | and if I'm here I can always wake him |
| 19:55.40 | ChipX86 | my documentation for this function contains: |
| 19:55.48 | ChipX86 | "Returns: The unscaled image, only not really." |
| 19:55.54 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:56.18 | ChipX86 | it asserts and dies :) That function shouldn't be called |
| 19:56.20 | kergoth | anyone know how to make doxygen emit man pages that dont suck ass? |
| 19:59.26 | ChipX86 | unpossible |
| 19:59.30 | ChipX86 | but I had something niftty |
| 19:59.32 | ChipX86 | let me find it |
| 20:00.16 | ChipX86 | this is really old, so you'll have to modify it |
| 20:00.38 | kergoth | k |
| 20:00.46 | kergoth | i just dont want to have to document the same shit in multiple places |
| 20:00.47 | kergoth | you know |
| 20:00.50 | kergoth | seems silly |
| 20:00.51 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.com/xml2man.txt |
| 20:00.54 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:01.02 | ChipX86 | so this took the doxygen xml output and made man pages |
| 20:01.04 | ChipX86 | way back when |
| 20:01.09 | ChipX86 | the xml format has changed a bit |
| 20:01.16 | ChipX86 | and I think now it's multiple files |
| 20:01.26 | ChipX86 | but you can certainly fix it up |
| 20:01.42 | kergoth | doxygen can do man pages itself, but they suck. these dont suck? ;) |
| 20:03.14 | ChipX86 | these were custom made to look like normalish man pages |
| 20:03.19 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:03.20 | kergoth | thanks |
| 20:03.30 | kergoth | this is definately going into libfoo once i make it all happy |
| 20:03.42 | ChipX86 | http://chipx86.com/pmGetPackageLicense.3 |
| 20:03.43 | kergoth | will probably write an autoconf macro and .am for it |
| 20:03.49 | ChipX86 | (very simple example though) |
| 20:03.53 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 20:03.58 | ChipX86 | and send me the updated one :) |
| 20:04.04 | kergoth | will do |
| 20:04.23 | kergoth | have you seen the doxample? |
| 20:04.28 | kergoth | its doxygen integration for autoconf/automake |
| 20:04.34 | kergoth | works quite nice |
| 20:04.44 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 20:04.48 | ChipX86 | I haven't kept up on doxygen in a while |
| 20:04.49 | kergoth | adds configure options to enable/disable it, and enable/disable different output formats |
| 20:04.52 | kergoth | pdf, html, etc |
| 20:04.53 | ChipX86 | all my xml code is gone :( |
| 20:04.59 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:05.18 | ChipX86 | but the new code seems better anyway |
| 20:06.32 | darth_mall | welp, I'm outta here |
| 20:07.25 | kergoth | hey TD |
| 20:07.28 | ChipX86 | TD! |
| 20:09.17 | ChipX86 | you're just the person I want to talk to |
| 20:09.23 | kergoth | TD: run! |
| 20:09.24 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:09.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:09.35 | ChipX86 | and Yay for American Grub |
| 20:09.46 | ChipX86 | http://www.deviantart.com/view/15745456/ |
| 20:11.30 | kergoth | aw, its cute |
| 20:11.35 | kergoth | and all grub-like |
| 20:11.41 | TD | uhm |
| 20:11.47 | TD | i'm a bit lazy to run |
| 20:11.49 | TD | so ... sup? |
| 20:12.16 | ChipX86 | in windows, how would one grab a single window and capture all paint events and everything and at the same time make the window invisible to the user? |
| 20:13.00 | ChipX86 | because I had a neat idea I'll describe in a few mins |
| 20:13.21 | TD | what does "grab a window" mean? |
| 20:13.57 | ChipX86 | well, I mean, I want to be able to take a single window and get every paint event and direct it somewhere else |
| 20:14.06 | ChipX86 | so say I had some test app that looked identical to another window |
| 20:14.10 | ChipX86 | and forwarded all events |
| 20:14.12 | ChipX86 | and looked the same |
| 20:14.17 | ChipX86 | but the original window wasn't visible |
| 20:14.19 | TD | ah, i see |
| 20:14.20 | TD | hmmm |
| 20:14.59 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r18 10unikmap/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Kill some libfoo remnants. |
| 20:15.29 | TD | the problem is invisible windows don't receive WM_PAINT events, for obvious reasons ;) you can send them to the window yourself, if you invalidate the region first |
| 20:15.37 | TD | but then it'd draw to /dev/null, effectively |
| 20:15.48 | TD | what are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:15.52 | kergoth | TD: i love abusing svk smerge. I'm now using it to apply my general autoconf/automake library template changes to all the projects I have that were based on it :) |
| 20:16.01 | TD | kergoth: lol |
| 20:16.08 | TD | kergoth: you're way more advanced with it than i am .... |
| 20:16.44 | kergoth | TD: have you seen the behavior where 'svk up' doesnt actually recreate directories that you removed? |
| 20:16.53 | kergoth | i had to re-'co' the damn thing to get the content restored |
| 20:16.59 | kergoth | confused the hell out of me |
| 20:17.21 | TD | hmm, no, but i don't think i tried that recently |
| 20:18.04 | TD | ChipX86: there may be a better way |
| 20:18.25 | TD | ChipX86: basically windows doesn't support X compositing type "render window to pixmap" AFAIK, at least not without some serious low level driver hackery |
| 20:24.36 | kergoth | AC_CONFIG_FILES([unikmap-]UNIKMAP_LT_REL[.pc:unikmap.pc.in]) |
| 20:24.40 | kergoth | yay, auto* voodoo |
| 20:25.12 | TD | bah |
| 20:25.15 | TD | travelling salesmen suck |
| 20:25.24 | kergoth | i dont think i've ever actually encountered one |
| 20:25.27 | kergoth | other than on tv |
| 20:25.57 | TD | more specifically, the travelling salesman problem must be solved |
| 20:25.59 | TD | once and for all |
| 20:26.06 | TD | it's got quite out of hand |
| 20:26.10 | kergoth | ah. |
| 20:28.07 | kergoth | @join #elinux |
| 20:36.49 | kergoth | we should setup a #tacobeam-like CIA setup for #devlounge. at least then it wouldnt be so quiet :P |
| 20:37.00 | TD | heh, yeah. that experiment was a bit of a failure |
| 20:37.05 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:37.09 | kergoth | too bad, really |
| 20:37.17 | TD | ChipX86: see? |
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| 20:41.32 | ChipX86 | sorry, we were packing |
| 20:53.39 | ChipX86 | TD: here's the idea |
| 20:53.43 | ChipX86 | I call it Xorcist for now |
| 20:53.59 | ChipX86 | we'll start off with the easy case |
| 20:54.20 | TD | good name |
| 20:54.21 | ChipX86 | your box, Foo, has the xorcist service running, and you connect to box Bar over VNC |
| 20:54.33 | ChipX86 | that also has xorcist running |
| 20:54.59 | ChipX86 | then you can run a tool, or maybe press a button on the window manager if it detects an xorcist-enabled session or if it's customized, and it talks to the one running on box Foo |
| 20:55.16 | ChipX86 | the window is hidden from view on box Bar, but we use Damage to track all updates |
| 20:55.28 | ChipX86 | and we display it, over a separate VNC session inside the xorcist protocol, on box Foo |
| 20:55.31 | ChipX86 | along with all child windows |
| 20:55.39 | ChipX86 | so it looks like you pulled the app out of Bar and put it on Foo |
| 20:55.51 | TD | ah, i see |
| 20:56.00 | ChipX86 | this would use VNC so that we could get the same capability on Windows and OS X, if support was written |
| 20:56.02 | TD | so it's about allowing applications to migrate between displays? |
| 20:56.10 | ChipX86 | right |
| 20:56.23 | ChipX86 | when the xorcist connection dies, or VNC dies, the app is re-displayed |
| 20:56.36 | ChipX86 | so I could be working remotely and make VMware just appear on my box and hide my big ol' VNC window |
| 20:56.54 | ChipX86 | I wanted this for VMware, but realized a generic solution would rock more |
| 20:57.00 | ChipX86 | and perhaps we could even use that in VMware. *shrug* |
| 20:57.01 | TD | well, you can do that with X apps without too much pain. the toolkit support isn't complete. for win32/mac apps it gets a lot harder because those systems don't have remote desktop functionality built in |
| 20:57.05 | ChipX86 | but that's not my main concern |
| 20:57.11 | TD | one interesting possibility is to make windows support X |
| 20:57.22 | ChipX86 | I thought about that |
| 20:57.25 | TD | there is a project out there that is trying to use the wine x11drv to do such a thing |
| 20:57.29 | ChipX86 | it's extra overhead that I'd rather not deal with |
| 20:57.34 | ChipX86 | and I don't want to change displays on the app |
| 20:58.03 | ChipX86 | my goal would be to have this all working using VNC in the protocol |
| 20:58.09 | ChipX86 | imagine pulling out a PDA app :) |
| 20:58.14 | TD | alright |
| 20:58.18 | Samy | There are several Windows X11 servers available. |
| 20:58.26 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:58.32 | TD | well there are a few ways you can go. one way would be to observe what happens if you make a window fully transparent on XP then grab its window contents |
| 20:58.36 | TD | Samy: no |
| 20:58.42 | Samy | Yes. |
| 20:58.43 | TD | Samy: that's not what i meant. they let you display X apps on windows |
| 20:58.53 | TD | x11drv is about letting windows apps render themselves via the X protocol |
| 20:59.06 | TD | so you can "export DISPLAY=foo:0" on windows, and have Word appear on your desktop |
| 20:59.07 | Samy | TD: Oh, that's a different and cooler issue. :) |
| 20:59.09 | TD | for instance |
| 20:59.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 20:59.34 | ChipX86 | I've done remote X on windows and even on DOS. It's neat, but I want to go the other way eventually and pull out a windows app onto linux ;) |
| 21:00.31 | ChipX86 | anyhow, it was something I thought up during a meeting today, so it's not fully thought out, but I'm tempted to play with a simple version using Damage |
| 21:00.45 | ChipX86 | going to meet Rachel for lunch |
| 21:00.47 | TD | well, that works for linux |
| 21:00.49 | TD | but you may as well use X for that |
| 21:00.50 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 21:00.57 | TD | for windows it'd be much harder |
| 21:00.59 | TD | for macos x - who knows |
| 21:01.03 | ChipX86 | well, yeah, but I'd rather not limit myself by using X |
| 21:01.14 | ChipX86 | I *could* just run my apps using X forwarding initially |
| 21:01.20 | Samy | With Quartz, it should be much easier. |
| 21:01.27 | TD | X is just a protocol, like VNC. what protocol is used doesn't solve the issue of how to export a window from win32/macos |
| 21:01.34 | ChipX86 | I know |
| 21:02.04 | Samy | X is a protocol with a real notion of what a "window" is. |
| 21:02.08 | ChipX86 | I'd like to push VMware to use this (since it'd be open source, and I'm in favor of that), and VNC would definitely be a requirement in that case |
| 21:02.21 | Samy | VNC is a protocol for sending JPEG streams and maybe...even...updating regions of a JPEG. :) |
| 21:02.23 | ChipX86 | well, maybe not a requirement, but X would be a pain |
| 21:02.42 | Samy | VNC wouldn't really be the optimal protocol. |
| 21:02.52 | Samy | ChipX86: Yes, that would be really cool. |
| 21:03.19 | TD | VNC is fine for exporting entire screens |
| 21:03.21 | ChipX86 | bbs |
| 21:03.26 | TD | for application level stuff, it's not so great |
| 21:03.50 | Samy | TD: and for regions. |
| 21:04.11 | Samy | TD: Unfortunately. :( |
| 21:05.28 | Samy | while :; do import -window root blah.jpg; done & nc -l -p vnc < (while :; do sleep 1; cat blah.jpg; done) |
| 21:05.35 | Samy | There you go, VNC in a line. |
| 21:05.39 | Samy | hehe |
| 21:06.24 | TD | heh |
| 21:13.35 | file | my ISP's mailserver is toast |
| 21:13.41 | file | their entire mail cluster is toast |
| 21:14.26 | hardwire | toooooooooooooo |
| 21:14.26 | hardwire | ast |
| 21:16.41 | lurgy | ladeeda.. |
| 21:56.35 | scanline | ChipX86: the google thing was at 11:30.. that was just a really quick prescreening type thing |
| 21:56.41 | scanline | I have a longer one with VMware right about now |
| 21:58.40 | scanline | mozilla moonsheep! |
| 21:59.11 | file | wow this VoIP wifi phone is nice |
| 21:59.12 | file | it's all, blue backlight-like! |
| 21:59.20 | kergoth | yay, Cake |
| 22:00.55 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-67-176-40-4.client.comcast.net) |
| 22:01.36 | purple_cow | hmm, i just had an idea that would make the churchill navigation internship fun and easy |
| 22:02.22 | cwisty | hello MG |
| 22:02.27 | scanline | ;) |
| 22:02.53 | scanline | hmm.. out of chapstick.. almost |
| 22:03.08 | purple_cow | MG? |
| 22:03.36 | CIA-3 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r19 10scm_trigger/: Create initial source dir. |
| 22:04.34 | cwisty | inside joke |
| 22:04.50 | purple_cow | mmmk |
| 22:08.42 | ChipX86 | back |
| 22:09.05 | ChipX86 | scanline: anyone call? |
| 22:09.15 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 22:09.16 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 22:14.00 | cwisty | CHipX86: he's on the phone right now |
| 22:14.08 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 22:14.13 | ChipX86 | hope it goes wlel |
| 22:14.29 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7189 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ROADMAP: tweak a bit |
| 22:15.11 | purple_cow | hey look, we've gotten to the halting problem |
| 22:18.10 | ChipX86 | our head manager is suggesting we take time during the next two weeks to just take time off and enjoy ourselves and not think about work |
| 22:18.30 | ChipX86 | wonder if they'd give me more PTO time ;) |
| 22:19.08 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:19.29 | ChipX86 | Subject: Take some time off please! |
| 22:19.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:22.51 | kergoth | woah, that charge for my shuttle xpc went through |
| 22:23.53 | cwisty | kergoth: yay shuttle, I have one and I love it |
| 22:23.58 | cwisty | great for LAN parties |
| 22:24.04 | kergoth | i keep hearing good things :) |
| 22:24.18 | cwisty | 'tis nice |
| 22:24.18 | kergoth | sure seems to take them a while to ship it after you order though |
| 22:24.24 | Samy | lol |
| 22:24.36 | Samy | kergoth: You free this weekend? |
| 22:24.43 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:24.44 | Samy | kergoth: because I'm not. |
| 22:24.47 | kergoth | planning on hacking on a bunch of projects |
| 22:24.50 | kergoth | hah, great timing |
| 22:24.53 | Samy | haha |
| 22:25.10 | Samy | I guess we'll leave it for another year or something. :P |
| 22:25.20 | kergoth | :\ |
| 22:25.25 | kergoth | itd be really nice |
| 22:25.41 | kergoth | maybe we should break out some individual tasks, and work on them individually or something |
| 22:25.46 | kergoth | get a mailing list perhaps |
| 22:29.16 | CIA-3 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7190 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog ROADMAP navigation_tree.c): sort the navigation tree in case-independent order, because it makes more sense |
| 22:33.31 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.36) |
| 22:33.56 | scanline | ChipX86: wow. they had some tricky questions |
| 22:34.01 | scanline | ChipX86: sounds like a really cool place to work though |
| 22:34.24 | ChipX86 | :) what'd they ask you? |
| 22:34.39 | ChipX86 | and what else was said? |
| 22:34.48 | samyb | Nice. |
| 22:34.54 | scanline | several random things.. the first one, and what I thought was the hardest, was asking about a way to build a queue from some number of stacks |
| 22:35.11 | scanline | kind of an odd problem.. took some hints for me to get the right answer, but it was rather cool |
| 22:35.19 | samyb | scanline: Why is it hard? |
| 22:35.24 | scanline | some stuff about removing duplicates in arrays in-place, stuff about stack corruption... |
| 22:35.27 | samyb | scanline: What type of stacks? |
| 22:35.34 | scanline | samyb: abstract stacks |
| 22:35.46 | scanline | samyb: so you can only push/pop.. no tinkering with the internals |
| 22:35.49 | ChipX86 | yeah, I needed lots of hints for things |
| 22:36.23 | scanline | the stack thing was one of those epiphanies when you finally understand, that makes you wonder why it was so hard... |
| 22:36.31 | scanline | lots of O() questions, which i like to see |
| 22:36.38 | samyb | scanline: and how do you exactly pop the data into the queue? What properties? |
| 22:36.46 | samyb | scanline: Cool. |
| 22:36.53 | samyb | scanline: Anything especially weird? :) |
| 22:37.12 | scanline | samyb: well, it turns out that you have to use two stacks, to basically reverse the order twice.. then you can transfer multiple items between stacks at once to amortize out the cost of traversing the whole thing |
| 22:38.01 | scanline | I had a hard time figuring out what he wanted on one question that was basically talking about stack overflows |
| 22:38.05 | samyb | Sounds similar to a multilevel feedback system. |
| 22:38.18 | samyb | but probably isn't :) |
| 22:38.26 | samyb | scanline: They know what those are? :) |
| 22:38.27 | samyb | haha |
| 22:38.33 | samyb | Considering their recent security issues. |
| 22:38.38 | scanline | pff |
| 22:38.49 | samyb | scanline: Anything especially weird asked? |
| 22:38.59 | samyb | scanline: Like dancing, etc.... |
| 22:39.09 | ChipX86 | what'd they tell you about the company? |
| 22:39.12 | kergoth | i probably wouldnt have done as well on those questions. despite all my real world experience, i have no formal training, and my understanding of O() stuff for example is pretty limited. |
| 22:39.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:39.43 | ChipX86 | same |
| 22:39.46 | ChipX86 | yet I'm here somehow |
| 22:39.47 | ChipX86 | *shrug* |
| 22:39.52 | ChipX86 | samyb: Vmware |
| 22:40.00 | samyb | ChipX86: Hrm? |
| 22:40.14 | purple_cow | well, i'm guessing that they're more testing your ability to figure something out, rather than testing prior knowledge |
| 22:40.16 | samyb | ChipX86: What about it? |
| 22:40.25 | kergoth | Samy: this was scanline's interview with vmware, not google. |
| 22:40.30 | samyb | OH! |
| 22:40.37 | samyb | That explains it. :) |
| 22:41.26 | samyb | Fun. |
| 22:41.39 | samyb | scanline: Well, good luck with that. |
| 22:41.42 | purple_cow | damnit, i wish i was graduating :( |
| 22:41.46 | file | must... make... tftp server work... |
| 22:42.07 | ChipX86 | great, Alex says I look sick :P |
| 22:42.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:45.12 | scanline | samyb: thanks |
| 22:46.43 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-67-176-40-4.client.comcast.net) |
| 23:02.00 | lurgy | hmm, no luck there i guess |
| 23:05.07 | pagefault | I am back |
| 23:05.17 | pagefault | and file I could not find any cheap soundcards |
| 23:05.21 | file | darn |
| 23:05.30 | pagefault | just lots and lots of network cards and PCI video cards |
| 23:07.05 | file | ah ic |
| 23:07.32 | pagefault | I got a wireless keyboard for $15 though :) |
| 23:07.57 | file | nice |
| 23:08.09 | pagefault | it's a compact one |
| 23:13.45 | file | so I can get you my gate number tomorrow |
| 23:15.01 | file | yup yup yup |
| 23:16.43 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:18.26 | ChipX86 | ok they want me to stop working and to put my computer away, so bbl |
| 23:18.33 | pagefault | hehehehehehehhee |
| 23:18.40 | pagefault | yay it work |
| 23:18.43 | pagefault | s |
| 23:18.59 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.39 | pagefault | this thing has pretty good range on it |
| 23:22.18 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.46 | pagefault | food time |
| 23:22.51 | pagefault | food is good |
| 23:25.21 | pagefault | meatballs |
| 23:25.24 | pagefault | yum |
| 23:25.27 | pagefault | :) |
| 23:25.36 | kergoth | hmm... food. |
| 23:48.57 | pagefault | tvtime is awesome |
| 23:52.10 | pagefault | I wonder if mythtv uses the tvtime deinterlacres |
| 23:52.15 | pagefault | +lacers |
| 23:56.11 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 23:56.13 | purple_cow | i hate being sick :( |
| 23:56.35 | pagefault | that sucks |
| 23:56.37 | lurgy | ew, sick |
| 23:57.17 | pagefault | hrm |
| 23:57.31 | pagefault | is there any way to take a screenshot of the desktop including the video overlay? |
| 23:59.00 | pagefault | haha |
| 23:59.26 | pagefault | leo is totally amazed by our coloured money |
