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| 00:11.13 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 00:11.23 | purple_cow | apparently since i'm doing the older curriculum, ASTR1010 counts for science |
| 00:16.05 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:16.33 | purple_cow | this email from dave smith sounds like he really surprised that the only thing i need for CS is senior project |
| 00:23.36 | scanline | oh no, Jason|MIA |
| 00:24.00 | scanline | purple_cow: coffee? |
| 00:24.14 | purple_cow | scanline: sure |
| 00:24.38 | scanline | but.. all we have to put in it now is milk or darth_mall's irish creme |
| 00:24.50 | purple_cow | milk is ok with me :P |
| 00:24.54 | purple_cow | we have a lot of it to get rid of |
| 00:24.58 | scanline | true |
| 00:25.25 | purple_cow | speaking of which, i vote that we buy half gallons from now on, since we don't use all that much and it goes bad |
| 00:25.35 | scanline | sure, that makes sense |
| 00:26.08 | scanline | um. huh... |
| 00:26.17 | scanline | I just got another moodle notification |
| 00:26.28 | scanline | now my feedback for homework 2 says it's from Ken Anderson |
| 00:26.31 | scanline | but the text is the same |
| 00:26.37 | scanline | and originally it was posted by the grader |
| 00:26.42 | scanline | plagiarism! |
| 00:26.52 | slimspace | so is this homework due by midnight like the last one? |
| 00:27.14 | scanline | probably, but tomorrow I have better things to do than OOP homework |
| 00:27.19 | slimspace | mmm, indeed |
| 00:28.21 | purple_cow | scanline: could be that the grade hadn't been entered into the moodle in the right way |
| 00:28.25 | slimspace | two more events to go |
| 00:28.48 | scanline | purple_cow: I just find it silly that he changed the name on the submission without changing the content |
| 00:32.04 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:39.50 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:39.58 | purple_cow | 12 hours next semester, 13 the following |
| 00:40.02 | purple_cow | sounds good to me :) |
| 00:42.22 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r24 10libfoo/ (configure.ac m4/internal/plugins.m4 src/Makefile.am): |
| 00:42.22 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: * m4/internal/plugins.m4, configure.ac, src/Makefile.am: Plugin macros, |
| 00:42.22 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: round two. Add handling of per plugin cflags/libs variables. Rework |
| 00:42.22 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: the way I detect how many arguments were passed to the macros to be less |
| 00:42.22 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: buggy. Add conditionals for building plugin groups statically. Add |
| 00:42.23 | CIA-8 | covenant-misc: example usage to src/Makefile.am. |
| 00:47.35 | purple_cow | kergoth: sicko |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | K_PLUGINS_INIT |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | K_PLUGIN_ADD([sqlite3]) |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | K_PLUGIN_CFLAGS([sqlite3], [-I/usr/local/include]) |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | K_PLUGIN_LIBS([sqlite3], [-L/usr/local/lib -lsqlite3]) |
| 00:47.58 | kergoth | K_PLUGINS_DESC([Database backends to enable.]) |
| 00:47.59 | kergoth | K_PLUGINS_OUTPUT |
| 00:48.01 | kergoth | heh. |
| 00:48.01 | purple_cow | cool |
| 00:48.29 | purple_cow | but still, you're a sicko |
| 00:48.33 | kergoth | sets up per plugin conditionals, a conditional for whether the plugins are being built in statically or shared |
| 00:48.39 | kergoth | ./configure options for it |
| 00:48.43 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:48.44 | kergoth | definately |
| 00:50.48 | kergoth | with those macros, setup for static, i'll be able to easily switch bitbake-data db backends easily at compile time, and easily make it a runtime option in the future if it becomes necessary |
| 00:50.52 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:51.36 | kergoth | purple_cow: i bought a new sjambok on ebay. imported from africa. hippo hide, authentic |
| 00:51.39 | kergoth | :D |
| 00:51.44 | kergoth | (note: did this before i quit, not after) |
| 00:51.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:52.12 | kergoth | bleh, i should go home |
| 00:52.46 | purple_cow | heh |
| 00:59.12 | scanline | I'm getting there |
| 00:59.13 | scanline | :P |
| 01:03.22 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/emc |
| 01:03.23 | scanline | huh |
| 01:03.28 | scanline | these don't look like normal commits |
| 01:03.39 | scanline | but the envelope says they're coming from a CVS client script |
| 01:04.17 | scanline | xchat-gnome needs a buddy list |
| 01:04.35 | scanline | so you can bother people easily without necessarily being in the same channel |
| 01:04.39 | purple_cow | how don't they look like normal commits? |
| 01:04.58 | scanline | they look more like automated build results |
| 01:05.21 | scanline | especially those "BDI Build System" commits, which seem to be related |
| 01:05.35 | scanline | hrm, another moodle email? |
| 01:06.18 | scanline | hmm, I don't see any changes |
| 01:06.46 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:06.48 | scanline | http://chipx86.deviantart.com/journal/4828762/ |
| 01:06.49 | scanline | yay ChipX86|Gone |
| 01:09.37 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 01:09.53 | purple_cow | with this schedule, i'll be starting at noon MW, noon:30 TR, and 8 F :( |
| 01:22.09 | purple_cow | fucking music, putting required classes at 8 |
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| 01:26.05 | scanline | mm, tasty |
| 01:26.32 | scanline | this would be even better with tomato soup, but I'm not sure I want to open the gigantic can I have unless I have a good reason to |
| 01:26.54 | scanline | yep |
| 01:27.22 | scanline | you win... respect! and oxygen! |
| 01:29.27 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:29.32 | scanline | haven't seen the next round of questions from LW yet |
| 01:38.31 | file[laptop] | yay Tori Amos |
| 01:39.06 | scanline | hmm |
| 01:39.11 | scanline | Soldat sorta runs in wine |
| 01:39.15 | scanline | but most of the textures don't load right |
| 01:39.20 | scanline | and now my screen is stuck in 640x480 |
| 01:40.35 | purple_cow | yay |
| 01:40.37 | purple_cow | scanline, hard at work |
| 01:41.29 | scanline | grr, the XF86 vidmode extension went all wonky |
| 01:44.00 | scanline | Dream Theater |
| 01:45.35 | purple_cow | i mean which album |
| 01:45.42 | scanline | Train of Thought |
| 01:46.07 | scanline | hmm.. Architect's Contortion makes a really nice white background |
| 01:46.14 | scanline | but my eyes still prefer something darker |
| 01:51.30 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7298 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/connect-dialog.c: more gobject infrastructure |
| 01:54.22 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03micah * r7299 10cia/LibCIA/IRC/Handler.py: Fix the irc:// regex to support IP addresses, in addition to valid hostnames |
| 01:55.16 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 02:16.12 | scanline | pff, these glasses get dirty too easily |
| 02:19.40 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3 files in 3 dirs): event hooks for join and part |
| 02:21.53 | slimspace | when you guys did event 5, did you have 3 reviewers getting contacted, or only the number not accepted being contacted? |
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| 02:24.37 | pagefault_ | hello |
| 02:27.51 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 02:27.55 | pagefault_ | that xscreensaver is neat |
| 02:28.04 | pagefault_ | rendering molecules of various chemicals in opengl |
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| 02:43.27 | scanline | heya cwisty |
| 02:43.31 | cwisty | hi |
| 02:44.53 | lurgy | exciting video, cwisty? |
| 02:44.57 | cwisty | oh baby |
| 02:45.09 | cwisty | Ostia, Rome's lost Sea Port . . . |
| 02:45.56 | scanline | sounds riveting |
| 02:46.14 | cwisty | I feel so dirty in this little room wating this video by myself |
| 02:46.18 | cwisty | dunno why |
| 02:46.32 | scanline | hehe, you took the little room? |
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| 02:46.42 | cwisty | "the" little room? |
| 02:46.46 | scanline | last time I did that I just used one of the TVs in that big row of TVs-on-desks |
| 02:46.46 | cwisty | there's a "the" room? |
| 02:46.51 | scanline | or is this a different place? |
| 02:46.53 | cwisty | ah |
| 02:47.02 | cwisty | there are a bunch of those rooms |
| 02:47.14 | scanline | ah |
| 02:47.16 | cwisty | yeah it's nice not to have to deal with the headset thing I suppose |
| 02:47.20 | scanline | yeah |
| 02:47.36 | scanline | I figured I'd just fall asleep if I used one of the rooms, since last time I did that I'd been up for about 30 hours |
| 02:47.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:48.38 | lurgy | cwisty: hehe |
| 02:48.53 | cwisty | you could have sex in one of these rooms quite easily |
| 02:49.12 | scanline | wonder how many people have |
| 02:49.20 | cwisty | probably more fun than this video on Ostia |
| 02:49.23 | cwisty | many many |
| 02:49.23 | lurgy | see, if cwisty were on facebook, she could easily have a conversation like that in the "Sex in the Library" group |
| 02:49.35 | lurgy | in which there are at least 200 people |
| 02:49.35 | cwisty | ewe |
| 02:49.39 | scanline | hah, wow |
| 02:49.40 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:49.52 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 02:49.56 | cwisty | or I could be having sex in the library while they talk about it |
| 02:50.40 | scanline | ugh.. I hate these sequence diagrams. I must be overthinking this, because I'm going to need a really big piece of paper |
| 02:52.47 | purple_cow | apparently norlin is in playboy's "top 10 locations" |
| 02:52.53 | cwisty | yuppers |
| 02:52.56 | scanline | wow |
| 02:52.57 | cwisty | to have sex |
| 02:52.59 | scanline | where in norlin? |
| 02:53.00 | cwisty | the Norlin Stacks |
| 02:53.34 | scanline | see, why don't I find out about these things when I'm not about to graduate? |
| 02:53.39 | cwisty | if you've ever been down to the second basement stacks it makes sense |
| 02:53.54 | cwisty | been inconvenienced by what purple_cow |
| 02:54.00 | pagefault_ | all campuses have their good make out places |
| 02:54.21 | cwisty | this is a have sex place though, not just a make out place |
| 02:54.59 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 02:55.04 | pagefault_ | fun |
| 02:55.11 | purple_cow | ooh look, this job sounds like SO MUCH fun |
| 02:55.21 | purple_cow | MS-SQL and VBscript |
| 02:55.46 | pagefault_ | if they had MFC it would be pefect |
| 02:57.08 | lurgy | cwisty: :) |
| 02:57.14 | lurgy | oh boy VBscript |
| 02:57.20 | lurgy | better than sex. |
| 02:57.34 | scanline | haha |
| 02:57.46 | cwisty | nope |
| 02:57.49 | cwisty | not better than sex |
| 02:58.00 | cwisty | anyone who says other wise hasn't had sex |
| 02:58.03 | cwisty | or all of it has been bad |
| 02:58.15 | scanline | or they haven't used VBScript |
| 02:58.19 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:58.20 | cwisty | damnit Micah |
| 02:58.28 | lurgy | hehe |
| 02:58.37 | lurgy | look what i've started :) |
| 02:58.43 | cwisty | haha |
| 02:58.56 | lurgy | what a terrible thread of conversation =D |
| 02:59.05 | cwisty | ;-) |
| 02:59.16 | scanline | I need a t-shirt that says "No, your favorite programming language is not better than sex" |
| 02:59.22 | cwisty | hahahaha |
| 02:59.26 | cwisty | rotfl |
| 02:59.41 | pagefault_ | that would be a good one |
| 02:59.53 | scanline | time to phone up thinkgeek! |
| 02:59.55 | pagefault_ | chipx86 should add it to the destroy morning's store |
| 03:00.01 | purple_cow | ooh, i'd forgotten that avon gets his sexy leather outfit in this season |
| 03:00.15 | purple_cow | scanline: i'd buy one :) |
| 03:00.19 | scanline | me too |
| 03:00.30 | purple_cow | you could just do it as a cafepress thing |
| 03:00.36 | scanline | but cafepress can't print on black |
| 03:00.38 | purple_cow | need to ressurect the guru shirt too |
| 03:00.51 | pagefault_ | they only do white shirts? |
| 03:01.31 | scanline | yeah |
| 03:02.04 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:03.29 | scanline | purple_cow: we need more Dr. Kev on navi |
| 03:03.38 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 03:03.49 | purple_cow | seems like it's really hard to get them outside of new zealand though |
| 03:04.07 | scanline | aw |
| 03:04.20 | scanline | this diagram is too freaking long |
| 03:04.50 | slimspace | scanline: you can, if need be, rearrange and redesign your objects to make it easier on yourself. |
| 03:05.01 | scanline | no, I like the way my objects are |
| 03:05.01 | slimspace | I pretty much completely changed things to make the diagrams simpler |
| 03:05.22 | scanline | and it's not that the diagrams are cluttered or anything |
| 03:05.25 | scanline | it's just a lot of information |
| 03:05.33 | slimspace | mmm... |
| 03:06.57 | slimspace | though I did think about using it |
| 03:07.16 | scanline | I mean, this is just maddening.. they're effectively making you design the entire system in detail, but without any of the conveniences of writing it in a programming language of some sort |
| 03:07.40 | slimspace | yeah, I know. I've been just taking advantage of a lot of Python internals to get around some of the crap. |
| 03:07.51 | scanline | python internals? |
| 03:08.01 | slimspace | yeah, tuples, multiple return values, etc |
| 03:08.11 | scanline | those really aren't specific to python |
| 03:08.16 | scanline | nor are they internals :P |
| 03:08.30 | slimspace | well true. But my point is that I've been using them |
| 03:09.03 | scanline | that goes back to what I was saying about work about these silly diagrams putting arbitrary boundaries between objects and other stuff |
| 03:09.11 | scanline | s/about/at/ |
| 03:09.26 | slimspace | yeah |
| 03:09.58 | slimspace | I donno, I really find it silly to try and put this level of detail into a diagram before even the programming language is determined. |
| 03:10.08 | slimspace | Depending on the language, it can make the diagrams change completely. |
| 03:10.43 | scanline | not necessarily.. I agree with separating design from language in most cases, but frankly it's easier to just write the damn code than draw one of these things |
| 03:10.44 | slimspace | My diagrams would be a nightmare if I were using more C-stict semantics |
| 03:10.50 | slimspace | yeah... |
| 03:11.24 | slimspace | and just think, we'll get the pleasure of going through all this for our project |
| 03:11.31 | scanline | #$@#%#@%^ |
| 03:11.34 | scanline | ~stabbystab anderson |
| 03:12.41 | purple_cow | well, i think we can do most of the "formal" documentation after the fact :P |
| 03:12.55 | slimspace | I'd go as far as to say we should |
| 03:13.14 | purple_cow | well, i can see the benefit of doing CRC cards first |
| 03:14.26 | slimspace | CRC definitely. I just couldn't see doing things like interaction diagrams. |
| 03:14.46 | scanline | interaction diagrams can bite my shiny infuriated ass |
| 03:16.15 | cwisty | your ass is shiny> |
| 03:16.32 | scanline | well, last time I checked it wasn't |
| 03:16.34 | scanline | but who knows |
| 03:18.21 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:18.25 | purple_cow | yay inkscape |
| 03:19.02 | scanline | I hope his fancy PDF viewer can handle 8.5x20 pages |
| 03:20.04 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:20.21 | scanline | can you represent named instances of objects in an interaction diagram? |
| 03:20.44 | purple_cow | probably using the colon dealybob |
| 03:21.00 | scanline | that's just class:instance? |
| 03:21.00 | slimspace | yeah, name: class_type |
| 03:21.04 | scanline | ah, other way |
| 03:21.23 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:21.52 | cwisty | one down one to go |
| 03:22.01 | scanline | one what? |
| 03:22.08 | cwisty | video |
| 03:22.10 | scanline | yay |
| 03:22.54 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7300 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (Makefile.am connect-dialog.c main-window.c): |
| 03:22.54 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: more progress on the new connect dialog object |
| 03:22.54 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: hook it up to the menu item |
| 03:24.14 | slimspace | yay, 1 event left |
| 03:24.25 | scanline | need 4-dimensional paper |
| 03:25.24 | scanline | is there a way in inkscape to separately group one vertex in a line, so you can drag a collection of vertices on different objects together? |
| 03:27.20 | scanline | these diagrams really aren't optimized for objects with long lifetimes |
| 03:31.12 | slimspace | I'm almost tempted to add a few diagrams for specialized things like looking up users and reviewer timers |
| 03:33.34 | slimspace | is there a way to refer to an instance of a class looked up in a list or dictionary? |
| 03:33.43 | slimspace | something like timer[ reviewer ]: Timer |
| 03:36.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:36.44 | purple_cow | scanline is nuts |
| 03:39.19 | scanline | in some sick masochistic way it'd be fun to do a set of these diagrams for CIA, then make anderson read them |
| 03:39.55 | scanline | heck, a high-level UML diagram for it might actually be useful |
| 03:40.43 | purple_cow | wow, he's pretty much just copied the JUnit "Money" example |
| 03:40.53 | scanline | hahaha |
| 03:41.04 | scanline | I should definitely send him a copy of my symposium paper last year |
| 03:41.09 | scanline | er, from last year |
| 03:41.28 | lurgy | hmm, apparently i'm playing for the piano studio on friday |
| 03:41.31 | scanline | oh no, sounds like purple_cow is watching Blakes 7 |
| 03:41.38 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:42.12 | scanline | grr |
| 03:42.14 | purple_cow | don't get clever, dream-head! |
| 03:42.21 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:42.53 | scanline | er.. hmm... |
| 03:44.16 | scanline | probably O(N^2) or a little less |
| 03:44.24 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:44.30 | scanline | since it seems like every time I add another big object I have to fix up all the existing ones just a little |
| 03:44.38 | purple_cow | i bet you could do this kind of thing automatically with CodeDOM :) |
| 03:44.43 | scanline | haha |
| 03:44.50 | scanline | there are a lot of ways you could do this automatically |
| 03:45.03 | scanline | we could spend lots of time inventing really clever ways to make useless diagrams |
| 03:45.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:45.45 | scanline | this stuff almost looks like it should be coming out of a debugger rather than going into the design process |
| 03:46.05 | scanline | it would be handy for analyzing bottlenecks in code |
| 03:46.06 | purple_cow | having a debugger that automatically builds sequence diagrams would be really handy |
| 03:46.09 | scanline | yeah |
| 03:46.22 | scanline | that's the sort of thing that IDA can sort of do |
| 03:46.48 | purple_cow | actually, i think kcachegrind does it |
| 03:47.12 | scanline | how do you pass arguments to constructors? is it something like <<create>>(x) |
| 03:47.12 | scanline | ? |
| 03:47.29 | scanline | or does this language not have constructors? |
| 03:47.38 | purple_cow | constructors are for losers |
| 03:47.42 | scanline | mmkay |
| 03:48.00 | purple_cow | scanline: i think the syntax is new(args) rather than <<create>> in that case |
| 03:48.18 | cwisty | yay all done with the videos! |
| 03:48.18 | scanline | ok |
| 03:48.23 | scanline | cwisty: yay! that one was short |
| 03:48.28 | cwisty | yup |
| 03:49.24 | cwisty | I'll catch up with you all later |
| 03:49.30 | scanline | see ya soon |
| 03:49.53 | scanline | yay, an editorInChief factory |
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| 03:51.35 | slimspace | but how to represent that in the diagrams... |
| 03:51.52 | scanline | ActionEditor could have a getTimer(reviewer, paper) |
| 03:52.11 | scanline | the dictionary itself would be private (at least in happy-UML-land) |
| 03:52.17 | slimspace | that could work |
| 03:52.53 | slimspace | yeah, and I could have a timer factory that adds a new timer object to the dictionary and returns the instance created. Then I could show that object in the diagram. |
| 03:53.11 | slimspace | Similarly for destroying the timer once a review is submitted. |
| 03:53.45 | slimspace | hmm...more objects :( |
| 03:54.08 | scanline | this class must be the reason why a lot of young programmers get frustrated at OOP |
| 03:56.10 | scanline | you just have to program in a language that makes it easy to experiment |
| 03:56.25 | scanline | python is good, or anything else where the extra baggage associated with a class is minimal |
| 03:56.41 | scanline | classes shouldn't have vectors and dotted lines! |
| 03:57.24 | scanline | ooh, I'm finally deleting an object |
| 04:00.30 | scanline | hah |
| 04:00.49 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. |
| 04:01.01 | scanline | he found a bug in the email address validation that I had thought of earlier, then forgot completely when we were actually implementing that code |
| 04:01.12 | zak | purple_cow: where do you get your bit torrents from? |
| 04:01.21 | purple_cow | a variety of places |
| 04:01.34 | purple_cow | most recently i've been using mininova.org for most things |
| 04:01.35 | zak | elaborate ^_^ |
| 04:02.51 | scanline | too many dots... |
| 04:03.01 | scanline | dotted lines, dotting my mind.. covering me in yawns |
| 04:04.05 | slimspace | wow...I have a createTimer function that takes a reference value, and initial timer conditions |
| 04:04.13 | slimspace | All in all, about 5 lines in the diagram for the one call |
| 04:04.59 | zak | ooo |
| 04:05.06 | scanline | corn fucker.... cranky... screaming!!! |
| 04:05.10 | slimspace | But I can use a nifty destroyTimer function now |
| 04:05.10 | scanline | BRAIN MELTING |
| 04:05.26 | slimspace | ~cpr scanline |
| 04:05.28 | jbot | scanline: <smoochu> :-* |
| 04:05.28 | scanline | ok, maybe I've had too much coffee |
| 04:05.30 | scanline | or maybe this is making me insane |
| 04:05.33 | scanline | like, completely insane |
| 04:05.35 | scanline | not just that regular kind |
| 04:05.51 | purple_cow | zak: if you're doing it from the LAN, make sure you use "--max_upload_rate 10" on your command line |
| 04:06.04 | purple_cow | bittorrent can pretty quickly saturate our network if the upload isn't limited |
| 04:06.09 | scanline | zak: slow ssh sessions make scanline something something! |
| 04:06.28 | slimspace | hmm...ok, maybe that won't work...at least not without making the diagram LOADS more complicated than it was before |
| 04:06.48 | Xentac | scanline: go crazy? |
| 04:06.53 | scanline | don't mind if I do! |
| 04:09.04 | file[laptop] | yay crazy |
| 04:09.32 | slimspace | wait, got it! I create a Timer object, call a store function with the reviewer, paper and timer object. Then I just call the getTimer function with that, and destroy the result. |
| 04:14.01 | zak | i did |
| 04:14.05 | zak | lurgy helped me |
| 04:14.24 | zak | so yea...we will have sttng s3 in...3 months or so ) |
| 04:14.29 | zak | s/)/:) |
| 04:14.37 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:15.30 | TimerFactory | slimspace: don't do tht |
| 04:15.35 | TimerFactory | it hurts us |
| 04:16.48 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:16.51 | lurgy | yaaaaaaaaaaay 3 months |
| 04:17.26 | purple_cow | a kermie? |
| 04:18.14 | lurgy | ow! |
| 04:18.23 | zak | kermit the frog |
| 04:18.29 | scanline | yay |
| 04:18.32 | zak | scanline: you should come see me room |
| 04:18.35 | zak | it's clean lie |
| 04:18.39 | zak | s/lie/like |
| 04:18.45 | scanline | zak: maybe some other time when I'm not in such a horrible mood :( |
| 04:18.56 | zak | scanline: :( |
| 04:19.20 | scanline | nah, already had way too much coffee |
| 04:19.46 | zak | speaking of.. |
| 04:20.34 | lurgy | zak: you should watch robot chicken :) |
| 04:21.18 | lurgy | even more reason right there :) |
| 04:23.09 | scanline | grunkk |
| 04:23.19 | purple_cow | grunka lunka? |
| 04:23.22 | scanline | no |
| 04:24.27 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/damn-you-ken.png |
| 04:24.52 | scanline | these diagrams have a way of making designs that seem completely reasonable to me look awful |
| 04:25.05 | scanline | and I have good reasons for all the decisions I made |
| 04:25.06 | purple_cow | scanline: you're insane :) |
| 04:25.08 | scanline | but nobody will care |
| 04:26.16 | scanline | 17x22" paper :P |
| 04:30.15 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:30.37 | kergoth | whew. fixed the tags on around 173 albums |
| 04:30.39 | kergoth | this is taking ages |
| 04:30.53 | *** join/#tacobeam Jason|MIA (~Jason@smct43-92-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 04:30.57 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.88.15) |
| 04:34.38 | slimspace | bleh, that last one was messy |
| 04:36.19 | slimspace | scanline: wow |
| 04:37.05 | Jason|MIA | micah! |
| 04:37.10 | scanline | hiya Jason|MIA |
| 04:37.34 | scanline | oh, sweet... a kernel oops in video1394 |
| 04:37.35 | lurgy | jesualdo! |
| 04:37.42 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:37.50 | Jason|MIA | scanline: just got our execution audit. |
| 04:38.07 | Jason|MIA | He really didn't have much to complain about. |
| 04:38.10 | purple_cow | wow |
| 04:38.16 | Jason|MIA | naturally :) |
| 04:38.16 | purple_cow | upgrading kdelibs takes for-freaking-ever |
| 04:38.19 | scanline | Jason|MIA: yep. the email address thing amused me- I remember thinking about that when I first did the validation, but I completely forgot when you were actually implementing that |
| 04:38.31 | Jason|MIA | hehe yup |
| 04:38.48 | Jason|MIA | scanline: yup it was a silly oopsie |
| 04:38.51 | scanline | brb, kernel reconfoobling |
| 04:38.57 | zak | well that was interesting |
| 04:38.59 | slimspace | all on a laptop with 160mb of RAM |
| 04:39.01 | zak | or strange |
| 04:45.58 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:49.09 | purple_cow | fucking flaky apple crap access point |
| 04:50.44 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-24-8-37-83.client.comcast.net) |
| 04:50.51 | Jason|FIA | cwisty! |
| 04:50.57 | cwisty | there he is! |
| 04:50.58 | cwisty | hey hye |
| 04:51.04 | Jason|FIA | howdy howdy |
| 04:51.28 | Jason|FIA | what's new magoo? |
| 04:51.33 | cwisty | oo you're the same color as lurgy today |
| 04:51.39 | Jason|FIA | ooh |
| 04:51.49 | Jason|FIA | wundebar |
| 04:51.59 | Jason|FIA | feelin good for this test? |
| 04:52.19 | cwisty | eh |
| 04:52.22 | cwisty | better than Monday |
| 04:52.27 | cwisty | but I have a lot of work to do still |
| 04:52.31 | cwisty | it'll be a late night |
| 04:52.31 | Jason|FIA | yah |
| 04:52.32 | lurgy | what color is lurgy today? |
| 04:52.33 | cwisty | but that's OK |
| 04:52.39 | cwisty | same as always |
| 04:52.42 | Jason|FIA | pobre cwisty |
| 04:52.47 | cwisty | this light yellowish color |
| 04:52.52 | Jason|FIA | me? |
| 04:53.03 | cwisty | lurgy you're the same color as always |
| 04:53.10 | cwisty | I showed it to you the other day |
| 04:53.15 | Jason|FIA | should I sign off and on again? |
| 04:53.15 | cwisty | now I can't tell you apart! |
| 04:53.16 | cwisty | oh no |
| 04:53.19 | cwisty | nah |
| 04:53.23 | Jason|FIA | hehe |
| 04:53.24 | Jason|FIA | k |
| 04:53.27 | cwisty | it's by your nick I think |
| 04:53.37 | lurgy | cwisty: cool :) |
| 04:53.37 | cwisty | so if you were GarlicWarrior then you'd be orange |
| 04:53.50 | lurgy | a plan with no drawbacks! |
| 04:54.01 | GarlicWarrior | hehe |
| 04:54.34 | cwisty | yaya |
| 04:54.37 | cwisty | salmon!!! |
| 04:54.41 | GarlicWarrior | hot! |
| 04:54.46 | cwisty | yup |
| 04:54.50 | lurgy | mmm |
| 04:54.52 | cwisty | now you and lurgy look different |
| 04:54.52 | lurgy | hot salmon |
| 04:54.55 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:54.55 | cwisty | how are you lurgy? |
| 04:55.10 | lurgy | gonna go visit a friend soon |
| 04:55.28 | lurgy | it will be good times |
| 04:55.36 | lurgy | except for the linear systems homework |
| 04:55.40 | lurgy | that won't be such good times |
| 04:55.48 | GarlicWarrior | never is |
| 04:55.52 | lurgy | yeah |
| 04:56.22 | GarlicWarrior | I'd put that up there with num comp, heh |
| 04:56.27 | cwisty | fun fun |
| 04:58.11 | lurgy | how are you cwisty? |
| 04:59.25 | cwisty | good |
| 04:59.29 | cwisty | studying but good |
| 05:03.16 | darth_mall | dammit! need food! |
| 05:03.18 | darth_mall | someone make me dinner |
| 05:03.22 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 05:03.31 | darth_mall | FOOD ME NOW OR PERISH IN FLAME! |
| 05:03.56 | darth_mall | fuckin' gmpc |
| 05:04.25 | darth_mall | crap, and I should do laundry too |
| 05:10.23 | purple_cow | hmm, seems my digital camera isn't happy with my laptop today |
| 05:10.33 | darth_mall | don't suppose anyone in the area feels like having silvermine as well... |
| 05:14.15 | darth_mall | wtf... |
| 05:14.20 | darth_mall | these drawings are being stupid |
| 05:15.09 | darth_mall | when I save as .eps suddenly these boxes end up with dotted lines |
| 05:15.43 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:15.47 | scanline | jen set that topic in the wrong channel methinks |
| 05:16.25 | darth_mall | bah... stupid ass drawings |
| 05:16.31 | *** topic/#tacobeam by scanline -> so you are sitting here tying your big toes together...with your socks..and you want me to believe you are sane? fat chance. |
| 05:17.09 | darth_mall | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 05:17.27 | darth_mall | it's making a bunch of these boxes have dotted lines for no apparent reason... |
| 05:17.30 | kergoth | whew, almost done fixing the tags of all my uberized content |
| 05:17.33 | kergoth | finally |
| 05:18.02 | cwisty | wuz up Micah? |
| 05:18.05 | kergoth | that brings me to around 25 gigs of that. hmm |
| 05:18.28 | scanline | cwisty: was awfully frustrated with this homework, then I took a short break to be completely random and unproductive with zak, purple_cow, and darth_mall |
| 05:18.42 | scanline | cwisty: somehow I ended up with my feet tied together, upside down, with the flu in my pants |
| 05:18.45 | scanline | though not all at once |
| 05:18.55 | scanline | and purple_cow took some pictures |
| 05:18.57 | cwisty | hahahaha |
| 05:19.12 | cwisty | post em for cwisty! |
| 05:19.19 | scanline | they're on his camera |
| 05:19.24 | GarlicWarrior | aaaah, micah's back :) |
| 05:19.34 | scanline | hmm, thirsty... |
| 05:19.42 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/harem/ |
| 05:21.08 | GarlicWarrior | haha I want to see the pics! |
| 05:21.12 | scanline | woo |
| 05:21.16 | scanline | that's great |
| 05:21.24 | GarlicWarrior | hehe |
| 05:21.28 | GarlicWarrior | I'm lookin |
| 05:21.34 | purple_cow | they look so very vulgar |
| 05:22.42 | cwisty | hahahah |
| 05:22.45 | cwisty | HOT |
| 05:22.46 | GarlicWarrior | look at that flu! |
| 05:23.25 | scanline | >:) |
| 05:23.31 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:23.39 | scanline | somehow my yellow bracelet thing became a collar for the flu |
| 05:23.40 | cwisty | hahahaha |
| 05:23.52 | GarlicWarrior | goodness |
| 05:23.56 | cwisty | we tried to strap the flu to the rocket |
| 05:23.59 | cwisty | didn't work so well |
| 05:24.00 | scanline | hehehe |
| 05:24.03 | scanline | that was fun |
| 05:24.03 | cwisty | the rocket just tumbled |
| 05:24.18 | scanline | hmm |
| 05:24.33 | cwisty | you are really skinny Micah |
| 05:24.33 | darth_mall | scanline: that's because you rock |
| 05:24.41 | scanline | of course, these pants are a little big |
| 05:24.52 | scanline | oh no, I rock |
| 05:25.09 | darth_mall | <joe swanson> YOU ROOOOOOOCK! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 05:25.13 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:25.16 | scanline | not helping! ;) |
| 05:25.19 | GarlicWarrior | Evan's flu is.... well .. |
| 05:25.24 | GarlicWarrior | hehe scanline |
| 05:25.42 | kergoth | yay Ska. |
| 05:25.42 | darth_mall | hmm... sudden desire to watch Family Guy... |
| 05:26.13 | darth_mall | and to hell we must sail for the shores of sweet barbados! |
| 05:26.37 | kergoth | prpplague over in #elinux is moving to barbados. |
| 05:26.41 | kergoth | from texas |
| 05:28.01 | purple_cow | he should change his name to barbados slim |
| 05:28.06 | kergoth | hmm.. new garbage album coming soon? and new beck? |
| 05:28.07 | kergoth | nifty |
| 05:28.11 | kergoth | yes, he should |
| 05:29.10 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:29.11 | darth_mall | ooh garbage |
| 05:29.19 | purple_cow | this is such a nice wine |
| 05:29.22 | darth_mall | they're like that female fronted band that didn't suck ass like hole |
| 05:29.24 | purple_cow | definitely making my day better |
| 05:29.30 | kergoth | darth_mall: indeed |
| 05:29.38 | darth_mall | ~stab Courtney Love |
| 05:29.40 | jbot | ACTION runs at Courtney Love with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 05:29.40 | kergoth | whats her name again.. |
| 05:29.44 | kergoth | the garbage chick |
| 05:29.49 | darth_mall | erm... |
| 05:29.49 | GarlicWarrior | a new beck? |
| 05:30.05 | kergoth | GarlicWarrior: yes, new beck album |
| 05:30.13 | darth_mall | GarlicWarrior: newer than Sea Change? |
| 05:30.15 | kergoth | word is that the sound is more like his old stuff |
| 05:30.19 | kergoth | less sucky than his latest |
| 05:30.25 | darth_mall | hey... I loved Sea Change |
| 05:30.52 | scanline | "Odelay is a real word.. just look it up in the Becktionary" |
| 05:30.58 | darth_mall | now Midnite Vultures, there was a bad cd |
| 05:31.02 | GarlicWarrior | hehe |
| 05:31.03 | kergoth | thats probably true, but i didnt much like it compared to odelay. his old stuff was great |
| 05:31.27 | kergoth | what a cool band name :) |
| 05:31.28 | purple_cow | odelay is a word! just look it up in the becktionary |
| 05:31.40 | scanline | purple_cow is too late! |
| 05:32.27 | scanline | yay cornflake girl |
| 05:33.15 | kergoth | hehe. me neither |
| 05:33.22 | kergoth | i'm starting to wish i go tthe 40GB :) |
| 05:33.27 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:34.22 | kergoth | ooooh |
| 05:34.23 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~user@128.138.74.40) |
| 05:34.24 | kergoth | darth_mall: |
| 05:34.26 | kergoth | "Garbage front woman Shirley Manson must have plowed through a lot of personal trash in the last 3 years, judging from the tone of Bleed Like Me, the band's new album. Either that, or she's too caught up in the OC. That shit is an emotional roller coaster! But Shirley is a survivor. So instead of folding under an assault of un faithful lovers,personal abuse and insecurity, she picked herself up by the garter belt. Bleed Like Me is the band's h |
| 05:34.42 | kergoth | " |
| 05:34.42 | scanline | purple_cow: I'm starting to think that we'll end up converting all the existing images to album, or setting up a mod_python based thumbnailer or something, before we ever get around to really fixing album ;) |
| 05:34.44 | zak | silly computer and refusing to recognize my wireless card unless i force the issue |
| 05:34.50 | scanline | er, converting to gallery |
| 05:35.16 | purple_cow | scanline: i'm all for moving to gallery |
| 05:35.21 | scanline | nod |
| 05:35.22 | purple_cow | i mean, it's already set up and all... |
| 05:35.26 | kergoth | [23:35:13] <devNull> Nothing says "Mug me" better than white earbuds. |
| 05:35.29 | scanline | yeah, and it's nicer than our current solution |
| 05:35.44 | scanline | we just need to give gallery accounts to people and find some way (preferably automated) to import the existing images |
| 05:36.06 | zak | orange. |
| 05:36.19 | scanline | kergoth: hah |
| 05:36.44 | scanline | kergoth: it's disgusting how much money has flowed from our college campus into apple just for ipods |
| 05:36.57 | scanline | the vast majority of earbuds you see around here are white |
| 05:36.57 | kergoth | hehe. i bet |
| 05:37.30 | zak | and a non ipod :) |
| 05:37.47 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 05:37.52 | purple_cow | kcachegrind is *damn* cool |
| 05:38.58 | scanline | purple_cow: I think that one you just took might be the best picture I have of myself :P |
| 05:39.04 | purple_cow | scanline: hehe |
| 05:39.16 | purple_cow | such is the nature of photography |
| 05:39.18 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/micah/img_1302.jpg <-- except maybe this one |
| 05:39.31 | GarlicWarrior | heh classic |
| 05:39.46 | GarlicWarrior | yet slighlty awkward |
| 05:40.22 | scanline | we need to take more 3D photos |
| 05:41.44 | darth_mall | shot |
| 05:41.48 | darth_mall | s/o/oo/ |
| 05:41.52 | darth_mall | fuckin' abiword crashed |
| 05:42.03 | scanline | zak: yeah.. looks kinda like my spine isn't attached |
| 05:42.28 | scanline | ooh |
| 05:42.30 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/people/micah/img_1185.jpg |
| 05:42.32 | scanline | this one isn't bad |
| 05:42.39 | GarlicWarrior | fire! |
| 05:42.39 | darth_mall | scanline: rofl |
| 05:43.01 | darth_mall | this is one of my favs: http://navi.cx/images/people/evan/evan-gargoyle.jpg |
| 05:43.28 | scanline | darth_mall: ooh, haven't seen that one |
| 05:43.48 | darth_mall | scanline: those are the few from France that I moved onto navi and captioned, but album never set up |
| 05:43.54 | purple_cow | scanline: yeah. i'd love to have an anaglyph photo of myself to distribute whenever i'm asked for a photo :) |
| 05:44.12 | darth_mall | here's my brother making faces: http://navi.cx/images/people/evan/kyle-notre_dame.jpg |
| 05:44.12 | scanline | purple_cow: well, you could also do something like this -> http://navi.cx/~micah/wiggle/ |
| 05:45.00 | darth_mall | http://navi.cx/images/people/evan/megan.jpg |
| 05:45.34 | scanline | hehe |
| 05:46.01 | darth_mall | best picture of Megan ever |
| 05:47.15 | zak | who is megan? |
| 05:50.53 | purple_cow | ooh cool |
| 05:51.08 | purple_cow | one of the abi guys is using poppler to create a pdf importer |
| 05:51.14 | darth_mall | zak: my brother's girlfriend |
| 05:51.19 | darth_mall | she went to France with us |
| 05:51.28 | darth_mall | bah |
| 05:51.33 | darth_mall | got distracted by the france pics |
| 05:52.56 | zak | scanline: why and how is you/your room moving like that? |
| 05:53.27 | scanline | zak: it's "wiggle", a little open source flash applet that displays 3D images using animation rather than special glasses or anything like that |
| 05:53.36 | scanline | I just used the same images I made that anaglyph picture with |
| 05:53.54 | scanline | you can move your mouse around to change the focal point |
| 05:55.52 | zak | the image seems most stable when focused under your left arm pit :) |
| 05:56.07 | GarlicWarrior | It's true |
| 05:56.14 | scanline | yeah |
| 05:56.25 | scanline | that's where I managed to get the best image when I was setting it up ;) |
| 05:56.48 | zak | since you can't quite focus on your eyes, you look sorta evil |
| 05:56.49 | darth_mall | hurry food |
| 05:56.57 | kergoth | yay, evil |
| 05:57.03 | GarlicWarrior | yay food |
| 05:58.23 | darth_mall | yay for Family Guy making fun of the King And I |
| 05:59.27 | kergoth | er |
| 05:59.31 | kergoth | forgot about this directory.. |
| 05:59.37 | kergoth | with 438 other uberized albums |
| 05:59.41 | kergoth | all of which need tag fixing |
| 05:59.48 | darth_mall | lol |
| 06:00.04 | kergoth | i got a ton of it before i ever got ubernet access |
| 06:00.08 | kergoth | via a friends ftp |
| 06:00.19 | kergoth | i bet the ubernet guys are confused, since i've tripled the size of my share in the past few hours |
| 06:00.29 | darth_mall | I call it "Smith's theory of relativity" |
| 06:03.25 | scanline | wow |
| 06:03.30 | scanline | these are so much easier with the first one done |
| 06:03.39 | scanline | most of these others seem to be modified subsets of paper submission :P |
| 06:03.43 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 06:06.12 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7301 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (connect-dialog.c gui.c main-window.c xchat-gnome.glade): get rid of the old connect dialog. the new one isn't populating correctly yet, but it's close enough |
| 06:06.57 | scanline | damnit, I want a grammar for these diagrams or something |
| 06:07.01 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:07.12 | darth_mall | scanline: I usually just use a plural noun ^^ |
| 06:07.20 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:07.34 | scanline | maybe I really just need their doodads for iteration |
| 06:08.55 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7302 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/connect-dialog.c: implement the 'connect' response |
| 06:09.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you should get a job playing music for film majors' films ^^ |
| 06:11.12 | kergoth | hm, half life too is surprisingly well performing even at 1680x1050 |
| 06:11.16 | kergoth | yay for new systems |
| 06:11.26 | kergoth | and yay for games that can run in 16x10 aspect ratio resolutions |
| 06:11.41 | darth_mall | pants? |
| 06:11.51 | purple_cow | it's just opengl, why would it care what the aspect ratio was? |
| 06:11.58 | darth_mall | pants! |
| 06:12.50 | kergoth | it doesnt, i just havent played many first person shooters lately. been playing games that arent opengl/d3d |
| 06:12.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:13.24 | darth_mall | yep |
| 06:13.27 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:13.30 | purple_cow | what a great adjective |
| 06:17.26 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:17.28 | scanline | didn't lose much that time |
| 06:17.57 | scanline | er, maybe I did |
| 06:17.58 | scanline | blahhh |
| 06:18.12 | scanline | maybe I should do this on my laptop |
| 06:18.24 | scanline | yoshi seems to be in a very bad mood tonight |
| 06:20.34 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7303 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/connect-dialog.c: and we have a connection dialog |
| 06:20.49 | zak | i can't find the harem picts |
| 06:21.08 | scanline | they're in purple_cow's homedir, since we can't really update album at the moment |
| 06:21.24 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/harem I think |
| 06:21.29 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:21.40 | scanline | they're still there |
| 06:22.03 | scanline | you might need the http:// or the trailing slash |
| 06:22.08 | darth_mall | MOO |
| 06:22.22 | zak | on the queen anne's revenge! |
| 06:23.01 | zak | you guys are silly |
| 06:23.07 | scanline | yes |
| 06:23.09 | scanline | yes we are |
| 06:23.17 | purple_cow | those photos look so dirty... |
| 06:23.27 | scanline | nah |
| 06:23.44 | darth_mall | <chris> I didn't even know there was a 5 a.m mass. I didn't even know there was a 5 a.m. WHAT ELSE HAVEN'T YOU TOLD ME!? |
| 06:25.08 | darth_mall | I agree |
| 06:25.10 | darth_mall | too cute indeed |
| 06:26.18 | zak | with evil red eyes |
| 06:27.01 | scanline | hmm |
| 06:29.51 | scanline | damn.. that's one severe case of redeye on my left side |
| 06:31.03 | kergoth | yay dashboard confessional |
| 06:33.08 | scanline | actually.. that does look better |
| 06:34.17 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/flu-pants.jpeg |
| 06:34.23 | scanline | yay for eye reconstruction with the clone tool |
| 06:34.38 | scanline | though now I look far less evil |
| 06:37.10 | darth_mall | bleh... can't get any of these images coming out nicely |
| 06:37.12 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 06:38.03 | darth_mall | bleh... none of this is really readable |
| 06:38.53 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 06:38.54 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/People |
| 06:39.37 | kergoth | woo, STP |
| 06:39.41 | kergoth | forgot i had this |
| 06:43.58 | scanline | blahh.. |
| 06:44.00 | scanline | wonder if this crashiness is at all twinview related |
| 06:44.06 | scanline | ooh, we can vote for people |
| 06:44.14 | scanline | I'm sure I do |
| 06:45.48 | cwisty | darth_mall sexlexia? |
| 06:45.52 | darth_mall | sexlexia |
| 06:46.31 | purple_cow | hmm, there are some cool images in navi buried among lots of crap :P |
| 06:46.34 | cwisty | right |
| 06:46.35 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/images/art/tn/role-playing.jpg.html |
| 06:46.39 | scanline | yep |
| 06:46.47 | darth_mall | I love that picture =D |
| 06:46.53 | darth_mall | best random picture I ever taked |
| 06:48.25 | purple_cow | yay for gallery being cool |
| 06:51.01 | purple_cow | kergoth: did you ever upload those mortal coil albums |
| 06:51.03 | purple_cow | ? |
| 06:56.41 | kergoth | nah, forgot about it |
| 06:56.44 | kergoth | on the way up as we speak |
| 06:59.11 | zak | yea for hot water music :) |
| 06:59.21 | zak | darth_mall and i saw them live on saturday |
| 07:00.28 | kergoth | yeah, he told me about them after he got back from it :) |
| 07:01.43 | darth_mall | time for sleep |
| 07:01.49 | cwisty | night |
| 07:03.06 | scanline | g'night darth_mall |
| 07:06.44 | scanline | damnit |
| 07:07.10 | scanline | I want to write "StaffDirectory.getEditorInChief().getContactInfo()", not draw this crazy rube goldberg contraption every time |
| 07:07.18 | purple_cow | ``When Sadie came nosing into our room a little after midnight Tuesday morning, whining, waking us up, my first thought was that Timmy had fallen down the well. But we don't know anyone named Timmy. And we don't have a well.'' |
| 07:07.32 | purple_cow | scanline: hehe |
| 07:08.04 | scanline | these diagrams are great at making fairly expressive and well-separated designs turn into a complete mess |
| 07:08.05 | scanline | :P |
| 07:08.54 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:09.06 | purple_cow | maybe you're showing too much detail? |
| 07:09.32 | scanline | I think I'm doing the minimum I can to show how all the objects I've defined will interact |
| 07:09.57 | ChipX86 | yay that was fun |
| 07:10.21 | scanline | hi ChipX86 |
| 07:10.52 | purple_cow | ChipX86: we have a harem now! |
| 07:10.54 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/gallery/Harem |
| 07:11.15 | scanline | it's all-male so far :P |
| 07:11.27 | kergoth | thatsno fun |
| 07:11.51 | purple_cow | kergoth: perhaps, but the pictures are the funniest thing i've seen in a good while |
| 07:11.51 | rioter | not going to ask... |
| 07:11.53 | ChipX86 | pfft, all male |
| 07:12.16 | ChipX86 | I just got back from hanging out with Jamie, Amanda, Dell, Rachael and Chelsea.. I sure missed that |
| 07:12.23 | kergoth | woah, grabbing tunes from this guy on ubernet at a good 120K/s |
| 07:12.25 | kergoth | nifty |
| 07:12.41 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: those are scary |
| 07:12.45 | ChipX86 | but funny |
| 07:13.48 | kergoth | @deepthought |
| 07:13.49 | kbot | kergoth: I couldn't believe it! Someone had stolen my new sled! My brand-new, all-white sled, with the runners I had painted white and the white tow-rope and my name written on the top, in white. I asked all of my so-called friends which one of them took it, but they all denied it. Finally, in the spring, right after the snow melted, the thief brought it back to where I had left it. |
| 07:14.35 | purple_cow | rioter: you do a lot of not-asking |
| 07:14.46 | rioter | its best for my sanity |
| 07:15.46 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/more-stabby-oop.png |
| 07:15.48 | lurgy | purple_cow: so have you heard back yet? hmm hmm? |
| 07:15.55 | purple_cow | lurgy: no :( |
| 07:16.05 | lurgy | aw |
| 07:16.18 | lurgy | well, could be any number of things |
| 07:16.22 | *** join/#tacobeam Nara (~Stardustc@adsl-67-121-225-138.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 07:16.40 | lurgy | hi Nara |
| 07:16.44 | ChipX86 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/7485/ |
| 07:16.49 | ChipX86 | that kicks ass |
| 07:16.51 | ChipX86 | hey Nara :) |
| 07:17.03 | ChipX86 | it's Amanda |
| 07:17.05 | Nara | where are they!? |
| 07:17.10 | purple_cow | i'm guessing she hasn't logged in recently |
| 07:17.16 | lurgy | purple_cow: yeah |
| 07:17.20 | scanline | ChipX86: hah |
| 07:17.26 | purple_cow | since most people have that "last logged in from..." but her profile doesn't |
| 07:17.33 | lurgy | ya |
| 07:17.40 | ChipX86 | remote controlled tanks that, when hit, shock the guy with the controller... eeeexcellent... |
| 07:18.21 | scanline | yay |
| 07:18.29 | purple_cow | lurgy: obviously you didn't look at the harem photos :P |
| 07:18.45 | kergoth | hey Nara |
| 07:18.46 | lurgy | guess not |
| 07:18.50 | ChipX86 | Jamie won't put the flu down her shirt while she's wearing it, so we had to improvise |
| 07:18.50 | cwisty | haha |
| 07:18.53 | purple_cow | scroll up a page or two |
| 07:19.59 | scanline | my ego? |
| 07:20.28 | purple_cow | scanline has an ego? |
| 07:20.34 | Nara | I see that smug look on your face! |
| 07:20.47 | ChipX86 | wooo, I can get HIV |
| 07:21.21 | lurgy | hehe, i see now |
| 07:21.23 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 07:21.32 | ChipX86 | I need to find out wtf this lump is on my skull |
| 07:21.41 | scanline | everybody has lumps on their skull |
| 07:21.47 | scanline | heard of phrenology? |
| 07:21.48 | ChipX86 | no, I have a special one |
| 07:21.52 | lurgy | yay special |
| 07:21.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: most people call it a "nose" |
| 07:21.59 | ChipX86 | I just found out today that people don't have this lump |
| 07:25.59 | ChipX86 | I killed the channel |
| 07:26.21 | lurgy | ow! |
| 07:26.23 | lurgy | it was your lump |
| 07:26.37 | lurgy | it's actually a telekenetic antenna |
| 07:26.47 | lurgy | when you think about it on IRC everyone gets zapped |
| 07:27.07 | purple_cow | heh |
| 07:27.14 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:27.25 | ChipX86 | I want to see an x-ray of my head |
| 07:27.41 | purple_cow | so i have a lecture on test-driven development and then an optional work-day in music tech |
| 07:27.54 | lurgy | heh, optional |
| 07:28.26 | purple_cow | well, the teacher realizes that a number of people will want to be starting their spring break |
| 07:28.47 | scanline | cwisty: oh, that reminds me.. the interview is at 2:00 tomorrow, so I guess my two guesses of 1:00 and 3:00 average out to the right number |
| 07:28.52 | ChipX86 | hrm I can't find a thing about this lump |
| 07:28.57 | cwisty | OK |
| 07:28.58 | cwisty | um |
| 07:29.02 | kergoth | mm, rammstein |
| 07:29.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: ooh! you may get to name a new disease! |
| 07:29.27 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: no, I think I've always had this, and I think it's part of my skull |
| 07:29.53 | ChipX86 | I thought it was normal, but it was pointed out to me that it's not |
| 07:29.56 | purple_cow | "chip's misshapen head syndrome" |
| 07:29.57 | ChipX86 | so I want to make sure :) |
| 07:30.00 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 07:30.44 | ChipX86 | what worries me is that according to what I can find, some lumps on the skull can result in bone cancer |
| 07:31.13 | lurgy | ChipX86: pointed out to you by a licensed osteologist? :) |
| 07:31.43 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i wouldn't worry too much about such things :P |
| 07:31.45 | lurgy | purple_cow: yeah, that whole terminating-classes-early-for-break thing has always seemed pretty silly |
| 07:31.51 | lurgy | to me anyhow |
| 07:32.03 | purple_cow | lurgy: i dunno, i'm happy to take an extra couple days off |
| 07:32.16 | lurgy | break doesn't start until the weekend |
| 07:32.28 | purple_cow | the internet is a hypochondriac's paradise |
| 07:32.32 | lurgy | people can leave early but they shouldn't expect classes to end |
| 07:32.57 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: it's just weird finding out something I've had for as long as I can remember isn't at all normal |
| 07:33.06 | ChipX86 | when you thought the whole time that everybody had it |
| 07:33.15 | purple_cow | it just means you're cooler than everyone else |
| 07:33.30 | purple_cow | like me and and all the scars on my head |
| 07:34.12 | purple_cow | they're what make me me! |
| 07:34.33 | scanline | wow, this third one is turning out really tiny |
| 07:34.55 | kergoth | this band is called "Jack Off Jill" |
| 07:36.17 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 07:40.13 | ChipX86 | http://www.menshealth.co.uk/talk/thread.phtml/thread108829/?PHPSESSID=2698ea6b31c6cb51baa4407a9d9b6edc |
| 07:43.44 | kergoth | we're all living in america! coca cola! wonder bra! |
| 07:48.03 | lurgy | scanline: yeah, me too |
| 07:57.19 | scanline | 4 diagrams done... |
| 07:57.27 | Nara | ARGH! I simply cannot understand how a manga about the game of GO could possibly be one of the most intriging andwonderful things I've ever read!! |
| 07:57.46 | scanline | hehe, it'll do that |
| 07:59.33 | ChipX86 | I should make my own manga about a magical girl who can summon the power of lamps |
| 07:59.51 | Nara | lol |
| 07:59.58 | scanline | you mean a genie? |
| 08:00.04 | purple_cow | uh oh, Nara is reading hikaru no go |
| 08:00.07 | ChipX86 | no, like electric lamps |
| 08:00.26 | Nara | Its so damn addicting. I don't understand! |
| 08:00.31 | scanline | :) |
| 08:01.17 | scanline | it's definitely a lot cooler than you'd expect an anime about Go to be ;) |
| 08:01.56 | scanline | ooh |
| 08:02.07 | scanline | my two timer expiration diagrams are going to be exactly the same except for the title |
| 08:02.11 | scanline | because of the way I designed the timers |
| 08:02.18 | GarlicWarrior | night all |
| 08:02.25 | scanline | g'night GarlicWarrior |
| 08:02.29 | Nara | night |
| 08:02.34 | GarlicWarrior | gracias y gracias |
| 08:02.36 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7304 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (. pipeline-editor.glade): add a prototype of the main UI |
| 08:02.58 | purple_cow | wow |
| 08:03.16 | purple_cow | i just realized it's been about 2 years since i wrote an application with a toolbar |
| 08:03.26 | *** part/#tacobeam GarlicWarrior (~Jason@smct43-92-dhcp.resnet.colorado.edu) |
| 08:04.39 | ChipX86 | Nara: btw, thanks for the massage earlier.. felt good |
| 08:04.45 | Nara | On the subject of HnG, I think one of the major contributing factors is the art, especially the hair. Also, the intesity of the characters. But above all, I find myself repeating again and again,"I am not a pedophile. I am not a pedophile." |
| 08:04.55 | ChipX86 | I need to learn from you guys how exactly to give a good massage |
| 08:04.57 | Nara | Chipx86: your welcome |
| 08:05.11 | scanline | yay Oingo Boingo |
| 08:07.12 | kergoth | down to 365 uberized albums to fix the tags in |
| 08:07.21 | ChipX86 | oh is that all |
| 08:07.37 | ChipX86 | do one a day and you'll be done in a year |
| 08:07.38 | kergoth | i've done around 250 so far |
| 08:07.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:08.47 | kergoth | ChipX86: did you ever get that e nomine and theatre of tragedy from me? |
| 08:08.59 | ChipX86 | I got the E Nomine, I think |
| 08:09.02 | ChipX86 | not the Theatre of Tragedy though |
| 08:09.28 | ChipX86 | checking |
| 08:09.37 | kergoth | hm, looks like another tot album finished |
| 08:09.40 | ChipX86 | mmm |
| 08:09.57 | kergoth | theatre of tragedy - 2002 - assembly |
| 08:09.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 08:10.05 | ChipX86 | I think I have assembly though |
| 08:10.55 | ChipX86 | can you chmod everything in uberized_downloads? |
| 08:11.20 | kergoth | k |
| 08:11.38 | kergoth | looks like i nstill need to get tot's "the velvet darkness they fear" and "aegis" albums |
| 08:11.43 | kergoth | whether you need them or not, i want them :) |
| 08:11.43 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 08:11.51 | ChipX86 | I have both :) |
| 08:12.34 | kergoth | i should listen to some of that goth i grabbed th eother day, on the ubernet recommendations |
| 08:12.41 | kergoth | i've got a metric assload of tunes i've never heard |
| 08:12.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:12.59 | ChipX86 | I have to upload E Nomine - Das Testament to my rio |
| 08:13.04 | ChipX86 | when I'm more awake |
| 08:13.13 | kergoth | yay |
| 08:13.20 | kergoth | i have more thena 20 gigs of uberized content now |
| 08:13.28 | kergoth | actually need to consider what to put on the iriver and what not, now |
| 08:13.51 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:13.55 | ChipX86 | my rio isn't filled just yet |
| 08:16.54 | kergoth | mm, enigma |
| 08:16.57 | kergoth | i need more of their stuff |
| 08:30.03 | ChipX86 | I am so absolutely exhausted |
| 08:37.02 | purple_cow | kergoth: first of those albums looks done? |
| 08:37.38 | ChipX86 | I hate debian packaging. |
| 08:39.05 | kergoth | damnit |
| 08:39.34 | kergoth | purple_cow: filigree & shadow isnt done, nor is 'blood'. the other one should be |
| 08:39.41 | kergoth | my desktop just went all crashy |
| 08:39.45 | kergoth | and it hosts my tunes |
| 08:44.25 | scanline | time for a nap |
| 08:47.13 | purple_cow | kergoth: ok, two more things for you to look for :) |
| 08:47.20 | purple_cow | cocteau twins & modern english |
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| 08:57.28 | Nara[TheSleeping | It hates me |
| 08:57.58 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:57.59 | Nara[Dead] | XP |
| 08:58.29 | Nara[Dead] | Gnight |
| 08:58.29 | ChipX86 | *hugs* goodnight. See you hopefully within the next couple of days |
| 08:58.34 | Nara[Dead] | yes |
| 09:00.29 | kergoth | purple_cow: was it you that wanted everything but the girl? have their best of here |
| 09:00.45 | purple_cow | kergoth: yep |
| 09:01.01 | kergoth | should i scp that while i'm at it then? |
| 09:01.11 | purple_cow | sure |
| 09:01.15 | kergoth | k |
| 09:01.21 | ChipX86 | HATE. DEBIAN. PACKAGING. |
| 09:01.26 | ChipX86 | *nothing* is going into my debs |
| 09:01.38 | ChipX86 | except the /usr/share/doc debian files |
| 09:03.53 | ChipX86 | I want to beat it |
| 09:03.59 | ChipX86 | rather than it beating me |
| 09:04.12 | kergoth | take this job and shove it1 |
| 09:05.38 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 09:05.59 | kergoth | hehe, damn it feels good to be a gangsta |
| 09:06.04 | kergoth | that song fit so well |
| 09:06.46 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7305 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (. pipeline-editor.glade): tweak widgetry a bit, name useful things |
| 09:11.32 | purple_cow | aha, cool |
| 09:11.45 | purple_cow | apparently mono's implementation of System.Drawing uses cairo |
| 09:16.50 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7306 10fyre/pipeline-editor/pipeline-editor.glade: looks like we can use System.Drawing on any Gdk.Drawable we want, so throw a drawing area in there |
| 09:17.52 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1533 10libgalago/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Added a debian/ directory. |
| 09:19.08 | ChipX86 | yay svn-buildpackage |
| 09:19.45 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1534 10libgalago/tests/: Ignore core.* files. |
| 09:22.32 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7307 10fyre/pipeline-editor/pipeline-editor.glade: tweak text and scrollbar policies |
| 09:36.59 | cwisty | night all |
| 09:45.37 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1535 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog debian/changelog debian/rules): Fix the package version. Modify the rules a bit to check if we need to call autogen.sh. |
| 09:46.24 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@c-24-8-37-83.client.comcast.net) |
| 09:49.58 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1536 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog debian/control): Fix the dependencies and dev package description. |
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| 15:35.46 | scanline | oh no, it's slimspace |
| 15:36.11 | slimspace | oh no |
| 15:42.48 | scanline | ow, coffee |
| 15:43.20 | lurgy | ow, slimspace |
| 15:43.30 | scanline | ooh, slimspace missed the fun last night |
| 15:43.38 | scanline | http://navi.cx/gallery/Harem |
| 15:44.40 | slimspace | wow, that's disturbing |
| 15:44.55 | scanline | s/disturbing/awesome/ |
| 15:45.14 | lurgy | s/s\/golly/ |
| 15:45.22 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:45.23 | lurgy | er |
| 15:45.25 | lurgy | s/s\//golly/ |
| 15:46.16 | scanline | what's not to get? |
| 15:46.57 | slimspace | coming to class? |
| 15:47.00 | scanline | hell no |
| 15:47.12 | KeyserSoze | well, when i go to a gallery called "harem", i don't expect to see pictures of two dudes |
| 15:47.33 | scanline | KeyserSoze: that's not why it's called "harem" |
| 15:51.30 | scanline | hmm |
| 15:51.39 | scanline | I think I just have the two review submission diagrams left |
| 15:58.01 | scanline | ooh |
| 16:27.09 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (7 files in 5 dirs): prefs handaling |
| 16:35.19 | darth_mall | scanline's one o' them whatchajiggers... monkeys |
| 16:35.27 | scanline | wow... |
| 16:35.33 | scanline | I just ended up with a 45MB flash file |
| 16:37.21 | darth_mall | http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/216176_cong16.html |
| 16:37.23 | slimspace | yay for having a complete pdf with all of homework 3 |
| 16:37.26 | darth_mall | goddamn motherfuckin' republicans |
| 16:38.19 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/~micah/fyre.html <-- yay, it's disgustingly enormous and fairly pokey! |
| 16:39.54 | scanline | huh |
| 16:40.02 | scanline | the mail notify popups on yoshi seem broken |
| 16:40.11 | scanline | er, never mind |
| 16:40.17 | scanline | this is a spam that I closed the popup for unconsciously |
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| 16:49.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:50.14 | darth_mall | scanline: if you feel like it today, you might give Ken Salazaar's office a call to oppose this stupid filibuster thing bush is pushing for: 303-455-7600 |
| 16:51.04 | scanline | what's this ehtn? I suppose I should read that link you posted... |
| 16:51.55 | scanline | ugh |
| 16:52.38 | darth_mall | Bush is trying to eliminate the filibuster |
| 16:52.51 | darth_mall | that way he can effectively appoint whomever he wants to the Supreme Court |
| 16:53.00 | scanline | nod |
| 16:53.04 | darth_mall | it only takes a few seconds to call |
| 16:53.19 | darth_mall | you tell them you're opposed to eliminating the filibuster, they ask for your zip code, that's it |
| 16:54.12 | scanline | ok |
| 16:54.58 | darth_mall | hehe... and apparently my brother is talking about Point Break in his film class today... lol |
| 16:55.11 | darth_mall | now there's a quality film if ever there was one |
| 16:55.42 | darth_mall | Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze surf and commit crimes and sky dive and surf some more and commit some more crimes and finally surfs... |
| 16:55.54 | darth_mall | slimspace: the democrats? |
| 16:56.00 | slimspace | mmm hmm |
| 16:56.20 | darth_mall | why? |
| 16:56.32 | slimspace | I can see why maybe the fillabuster thing would be bad, but them threatening to shut down the senate is just childish. |
| 16:57.45 | scanline | I guess if you have to pick sides, that's one way to look at it. But doesn't it bother you more that power in our government would just be getting even more concentrated? |
| 16:57.50 | darth_mall | well... I'm not sure they have much choice |
| 16:58.10 | darth_mall | I mean... appointing a Supreme Court Judge with impunity is pretty damn powerful |
| 16:58.37 | darth_mall | with a republican president and a republican congress, the filibuster was one of the few things they had left |
| 16:59.01 | slimspace | it depends on how you look at it. I'm just as against big government as the next guy, and so I don't want bush or anyone else being able to just appoint whoever he wants. But in the same respect, I've seen the fillabuster used to block good bills before |
| 16:59.17 | darth_mall | so? |
| 16:59.29 | darth_mall | that doesn't mean it's ok to get rid of it |
| 16:59.51 | slimspace | True. We have had it for a long time, and it's worked. |
| 17:00.23 | slimspace | but there has been an upward trend in its use, especially in the democratic party lately. Although that could very well be because of bush |
| 17:01.01 | slimspace | I just think it's childish that they're making threats now |
| 17:01.12 | scanline | I can't see any good reason to get rid of it other than to give the republicans even more power and throw our government even farther out of whack |
| 17:01.42 | slimspace | well, in the same respect, it would allow the government to get things done faster. |
| 17:01.45 | darth_mall | apparently the senate recently approved oil drilling in the arctic reserve |
| 17:01.55 | slimspace | And that could help the democrats if/when they get back in power. |
| 17:02.13 | darth_mall | and in the mean time we can take over the entire middle east =D |
| 17:02.34 | slimspace | I've not seen evidence that that's where he wants to go |
| 17:02.47 | scanline | someone needs to teach politicians in general that this isn't a giant game of monopoly, it's the future of our planet and our people :P |
| 17:02.47 | darth_mall | erm... you mean besides the whole invading Iraq thing? |
| 17:03.15 | slimspace | that was planned before 9/11. Can you honestly say no good has come from that? |
| 17:03.28 | darth_mall | yeah, pretty much |
| 17:03.36 | darth_mall | a lot of people have died and we've accomplished very little |
| 17:03.37 | slimspace | on what basis? |
| 17:03.50 | slimspace | more people died at vietnam, and all the other world wars |
| 17:04.05 | scanline | woo, some people didn't die.. go bush! |
| 17:04.09 | slimspace | comparitively, this war has been one of the lowest in death rates. |
| 17:04.19 | slimspace | well, what do you expect? In war, people die |
| 17:04.23 | darth_mall | you don't hear me talking about what a great thing vietnam is either... |
| 17:04.34 | darth_mall | as for WWI and II... we didn't invade anyone... |
| 17:04.47 | slimspace | no? what about bombing Japan? |
| 17:06.21 | darth_mall | erm... didn't that happen after we entered the war? |
| 17:06.35 | slimspace | that brought us into the war |
| 17:07.11 | slimspace | well, how is that very much different than what's happening now? |
| 17:07.28 | scanline | iraq attacked us? |
| 17:07.53 | slimspace | not directly. Factions did who were being helped by the iraqi government |
| 17:08.48 | scanline | uhhuh.. it seemed to me like 9/11 just gave us a lousy excuse to attack iraq for unrelated reasons |
| 17:09.08 | darth_mall | plus all that other nonsense they gave about WMDs that they never found |
| 17:09.36 | slimspace | true, but how were supposed to know about that? |
| 17:09.46 | darth_mall | oh wait... they did find mustard gas under a turkey farm in Libya, so Iraq had to have them too |
| 17:09.48 | scanline | slimspace: I don't understand how you can consider any war to be a better outcome than avoiding war altogether, and this one was pretty pointless |
| 17:10.29 | slimspace | I don't think war is right. But fact is, we could have been in a worse state than we are now without it. And besides, Iraq is on its way to becoming free |
| 17:10.37 | slimspace | that's gotta count for something. |
| 17:11.17 | scanline | if they really intended to be doing iraq a service through all this, they could have tried killing fewer of their civillians :P |
| 17:11.42 | slimspace | you make it sound like we actively went against the civilians |
| 17:11.55 | darth_mall | we did kill an awful lot of them... |
| 17:12.09 | slimspace | civilian casualties are a biproduct of war |
| 17:12.45 | slimspace | and what complicated it further is that soldiers and terrorists were posing as normal civilians, women, children. How were we supposed to tell them apart? |
| 17:12.47 | scanline | slimspace: so it would seem you'd want a really good reason to start a war.. and that reason probably wouldn't be for the benefit of the people you're killing |
| 17:13.11 | slimspace | what? |
| 17:13.18 | slimspace | where are you getting that from? |
| 17:13.49 | darth_mall | and much of what I've seen in the news and documentaries (not Farenheit 9/11) is that they didn't really want us there |
| 17:13.51 | slimspace | no, but they're awfully happy about it now |
| 17:13.51 | scanline | slimspace: common sense? I'm just saying that you aren't exactly doing people a favor by coming in from nowhere and blowing them up |
| 17:14.18 | slimspace | it wasn't the people we were there to blow up. It was the government. |
| 17:14.54 | scanline | you can't blow up a government |
| 17:15.00 | scanline | you can blow up people, and you can blow up buildings |
| 17:15.15 | slimspace | ok, so blow up the people in power (read Saddam) |
| 17:15.47 | scanline | didn't we already have some good opportunities to kill Saddam without starting a huge mess like this? or am I remembering wrong? |
| 17:16.04 | slimspace | I think in Clinton's time. But he did nothing |
| 17:16.41 | darth_mall | also... we're the idiots who put him in charge |
| 17:16.53 | slimspace | yeah. Even we make mistakes |
| 17:17.07 | scanline | what bothers me most about all this is that our government and the media have basically been telling people "someone foreign attacked us! iraq is a foreign country, let's attack them!" |
| 17:17.07 | darth_mall | kinda funny how we put someone in charge when it suits us, then remove him when it suits us... |
| 17:17.40 | slimspace | he was put in charge when we thought he'd be a good leader. Turns out he wasn't. |
| 17:18.04 | darth_mall | the whole thing started as a hunt for Bin Laden (who they didn't catch), then a search for WMDs (which they didn't find), then our mission to "free" Iraq... |
| 17:18.14 | darth_mall | none of which really have anything to do with each other |
| 17:18.26 | darth_mall | but boy did Bush do a good job of confusing the issue so that no one would have a problem with it |
| 17:18.33 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:18.45 | slimspace | well, Clinton had a prime opportunity to kill Bin Laden, but didn't. |
| 17:19.08 | darth_mall | on what grounds would he have killed Bin Laden? |
| 17:19.25 | scanline | darth_mall: he's middle-eastern, duh |
| 17:19.29 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:19.57 | slimspace | maybe on the grounds that he was a terrorist to us? |
| 17:20.08 | slimspace | he could have at least locked him up, or prepared something |
| 17:21.18 | darth_mall | you mean like those reports that Bush saw about the attack on the WTC that he ignored? |
| 17:21.33 | darth_mall | that is, reports that came in -before- the attack |
| 17:21.33 | slimspace | what reports? |
| 17:21.51 | darth_mall | the FBI had reports, that Bush saw, advising that there was a likelihood of an attack on the WTC |
| 17:22.00 | darth_mall | it was all over the news a long time ago |
| 17:22.08 | darth_mall | I think Bush managed to convince people that he'd never seen the |
| 17:22.11 | darth_mall | s/$/m/ |
| 17:22.20 | slimspace | hmm...I'll have to look that up |
| 17:22.53 | darth_mall | any potential good that could possibly come of this whole mess is purely accidental |
| 17:23.06 | darth_mall | Bush got us into this for purely personal benefit |
| 17:23.20 | darth_mall | he has a vested interest in controlling the middle east |
| 17:23.32 | slimspace | to what end? |
| 17:24.27 | darth_mall | oil |
| 17:24.57 | slimspace | if he were that interested in oil, he could start drilling in Alaska. There's WAY more oil there. |
| 17:26.22 | darth_mall | he can't just start drilling in Alaska |
| 17:26.24 | darth_mall | he needs to get permission |
| 17:26.26 | darth_mall | a lot of the oil there is in national reserves |
| 17:26.28 | darth_mall | but he did just get permission to drill in the arctic circle |
| 17:26.36 | darth_mall | but as it stands right now, the vast majority of our oil comes from the middle east |
| 17:26.52 | slimspace | true |
| 17:27.24 | slimspace | Seems to me if he was only interested in oil, he could invade and just setup a police state there, without trying to introduce a new government. |
| 17:27.27 | darth_mall | so if we control the middle east, the oil tycoons are guaranteed to continue making lots of money |
| 17:27.44 | slimspace | How do we control the middle east if they have their own government? |
| 17:27.44 | darth_mall | what makes you so sure that that wasn't his plan all along? |
| 17:27.54 | slimspace | because he's setting up a government |
| 17:27.56 | darth_mall | they haven't had much success setting up the gov't |
| 17:28.12 | slimspace | and you expect it to happen over night? |
| 17:28.29 | darth_mall | not to mention that, just because they have their own gov't, doesn't mean we won't have a lot of sway in it |
| 17:28.31 | slimspace | fact is, they're working on it, not leaving them |
| 17:28.41 | scanline | slimspace: he has to at least look like he's trying, so the media keeps running warm fuzzy feel-good stories about helping Iraq |
| 17:28.57 | slimspace | what evidence do you have that he's not? |
| 17:29.03 | darth_mall | and in the mean time... we've got an occupying force in Iraq with people in charge that we appointed |
| 17:29.35 | scanline | slimspace: whether he is or not, it doesn't seem to be his primary motivation |
| 17:29.44 | slimspace | again, what proof of that do you have? |
| 17:29.51 | darth_mall | all of his actions |
| 17:29.58 | darth_mall | he does what he wants, when he wants |
| 17:30.12 | darth_mall | it doesn't matter what anyone else says |
| 17:30.16 | slimspace | I'm seeing a lot of blanket statements, but nothing to back it up |
| 17:30.30 | darth_mall | how about when he invaded Iraq against the wishes of the UN? |
| 17:31.01 | darth_mall | supposedly part of being a member of the UN is not entering into a war that's not sanctioned by the UN |
| 17:31.09 | slimspace | OK, first off, the WHOLE UN didn't block us. Only select countries, like France, who we later found out had a vested interest in blocking it. |
| 17:31.21 | slimspace | read bribe |
| 17:31.38 | darth_mall | the UN didn't approve the war which means we shouldn't have gone in |
| 17:31.40 | slimspace | As I remember, most of the UN countries backed us |
| 17:32.11 | slimspace | is the UN in charge of us? |
| 17:32.11 | darth_mall | you don't get to pick and choose when you obey the rules |
| 17:32.15 | slimspace | or are we? |
| 17:32.19 | darth_mall | slimspace: in international affairs, yes |
| 17:32.23 | darth_mall | that's the whole point |
| 17:32.32 | darth_mall | we don't act internationally without working with the rest of the world |
| 17:32.42 | darth_mall | except in this case, where bush did whatever he wanted |
| 17:32.43 | slimspace | ok, so we listen to the UN, continue with the weapons inspections. Meanwhile, we get bombed again. |
| 17:32.58 | darth_mall | did the weapons inspections find anything? |
| 17:32.59 | slimspace | Fact is, the UN consists of countries without any manpower to support a war. Of course they're going to oppose it. |
| 17:33.25 | darth_mall | we were inspecting Iraq... the people who bombed us were in Afghanistan... |
| 17:33.52 | darth_mall | the attacks were made by a group of terrorists who weren't demonstrably working for any gov't |
| 17:34.10 | slimspace | not working for, no. But being aided under the table, yes |
| 17:34.10 | darth_mall | how is that justification for disobeying a vote from the UN? |
| 17:34.16 | darth_mall | slimspace: show me the proof |
| 17:34.28 | darth_mall | show me undeniable proof that Al Qaeda was working for Iraq |
| 17:34.49 | scanline | erg.. /me kicks yoshi |
| 17:35.24 | scanline | "Let's have a war.. cuz why not" |
| 17:35.40 | scanline | yeah |
| 17:35.50 | slimspace | I'll look |
| 17:36.05 | slimspace | but I'd like proof of what you assert too |
| 17:39.08 | nullpuppy | hmm... anyone konw if there's a openoffice-bin ebuild for the 2.0 beta? |
| 17:52.16 | scanline | yay, I think I have this homework done |
| 18:08.59 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 18:10.18 | slimspace | ok, I think I see what's going on |
| 18:10.40 | slimspace | it looks to me from what I've been reading that the main reason Bush had to invade iraq in the first place was because of the possibility of his having WMD. |
| 18:12.04 | slimspace | and it definitely seems that there were no ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq, although there were many small contacts there. |
| 18:12.57 | slimspace | though we did attack Afganistan first |
| 18:13.06 | slimspace | s/gan/ghan |
| 18:15.08 | slimspace | though I see nothing but speculation that his motives had more to do with oil. |
| 18:16.17 | darth_mall | slimspace: the reason for that speculation is because of his ties to the oil industry, and the importance of Iraq in oil |
| 18:16.26 | slimspace | yeah, that I can see |
| 18:16.44 | darth_mall | watch Farenheit 9/11, not that it's a bastion of truth, but it does talk about his relationships with people in the oil industry |
| 18:16.59 | slimspace | everything I've heard about that movie says it's total crap |
| 18:17.19 | darth_mall | and, although I think that Moore was trying to hint at a consipiracy, it does kind of make you wonder whether Bush could make an unbiased decision |
| 18:17.25 | darth_mall | it's not crap |
| 18:17.34 | darth_mall | it's only crap if you think it's a fair-minded documentary |
| 18:17.38 | darth_mall | but it's not a documentary |
| 18:17.46 | slimspace | well, I will say that both Bush and Cheny could very easliy have a stake in the industry |
| 18:17.46 | darth_mall | it's Moore's personal political views |
| 18:17.59 | darth_mall | but that doesn't mean it's completely fabricated |
| 18:18.12 | slimspace | no, I'm sure there is accurate stuff in there |
| 18:18.15 | darth_mall | it's facts that he's spun to further his argument |
| 18:18.18 | slimspace | I'd just question it |
| 18:18.20 | darth_mall | he also talks about that FBI report |
| 18:18.30 | slimspace | which? |
| 18:18.46 | darth_mall | the one indiciating that we suspected there would be an attack on the WTC |
| 18:19.12 | slimspace | do you know when that came out? |
| 18:19.14 | darth_mall | IIRC, he interviews someone from the FBI who was involved with the report |
| 18:19.17 | darth_mall | the movie? |
| 18:19.21 | slimspace | no, the document |
| 18:19.28 | darth_mall | 2003, I think |
| 18:19.37 | darth_mall | I think it was during my first sem. here in Boulder |
| 18:19.43 | darth_mall | so it would have been spring sem. 2003 |
| 18:19.58 | darth_mall | but if you want to see a really good documentary, watch Control Room |
| 18:20.48 | darth_mall | it's a documentary on Al Jazeera, the middle eastern tv station |
| 18:20.55 | darth_mall | and their involvement in the war |
| 18:21.19 | slimspace | ah |
| 18:21.24 | darth_mall | it's pretty frightening the bullshit that the american media and politicians (particularly Rumsfeld) spouted off about the war |
| 18:21.30 | slimspace | ok, I found an article about the document |
| 18:21.36 | slimspace | mmm |
| 18:21.57 | slimspace | yeah, it seems they had insight into what might happen, but they thought it only applied to overseas flights, and so didn't up the security any |
| 18:22.14 | darth_mall | the other thing that most people seem to forget is that initially our invasion of Iraq was a preemptive "self-defense" strike |
| 18:22.28 | darth_mall | then, when we discovered that they weren't really a threat it became "free Iraq!" |
| 18:22.30 | slimspace | yeah. He didn't attack us at all |
| 18:22.48 | slimspace | well, what could we do? We already made a mess, might as well try and clean it up |
| 18:23.00 | darth_mall | well... the first step would be to admit we were wrong =P |
| 18:23.12 | darth_mall | s/we/bush/ |
| 18:23.19 | slimspace | he did in various speeches |
| 18:23.28 | slimspace | particularly when it was found there was no WMD |
| 18:24.11 | darth_mall | which, if he'd paid any attention to the information he was getting from the inspections, he would have known without having to kill a bunch of people |
| 18:25.03 | slimspace | well, the impression I got at the time was that everyone suspected he kept moving the weapons. |
| 18:25.36 | darth_mall | that was the excuse Bush kept using when we couldn't find any, yeah |
| 18:26.01 | ChipX86 | is there a scanline in the house? |
| 18:26.03 | slimspace | I think that even reached into Clinton's time |
| 18:26.13 | scanline | ChipX86: a little |
| 18:26.24 | ChipX86 | where can I find info on sticking a cvsweb url in to commits? |
| 18:26.58 | darth_mall | scanline: where are yoyu interviewing? |
| 18:27.03 | scanline | ChipX86: individual files and the entire commit can have URLs associated with them.. it's in the schema, and the svn client supports both |
| 18:27.10 | scanline | darth_mall: churchill navigation |
| 18:27.18 | darth_mall | ah, cool |
| 18:27.33 | darth_mall | bleh... Han is reteaching us about paging |
| 18:28.38 | scanline | blah.. I never feel right wearing a tucked in shirt |
| 18:29.15 | darth_mall | grrr... fuckin' inkscape |
| 18:29.21 | darth_mall | those lines aren't dotted! |
| 18:30.16 | scanline | how are you exporting yours? it worked fine for me |
| 18:30.41 | ChipX86 | I'm so glad to be back in Chico, where everybody is stressed and thinking the worst about every little thing |
| 18:31.41 | slimspace | had inkspace convert all to .ps, then used a script to merge all .ps files into 1, then did a pstopdf on it |
| 18:32.08 | scanline | heh, that's not much different than what I did, just kind of roundabout |
| 18:32.15 | scanline | ghostscript has no problem doing that all itself |
| 18:32.30 | darth_mall | it does it whenever I save as either .eps or .ps |
| 18:32.51 | slimspace | I've always had difficulty merging .ps files generated from different programs though |
| 18:33.03 | slimspace | the script I used just encapsulated them |
| 18:34.40 | darth_mall | ARG! |
| 18:34.48 | darth_mall | ~lart inkscape |
| 18:36.09 | darth_mall | wow this is aggravating |
| 18:41.36 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1537 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog debian/control): Add libc6 and pkg-config as dependencies. |
| 18:41.58 | darth_mall | haha! for some reason it decided to work |
| 18:53.47 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
| 18:53.58 | darth_mall | yay lurgy |
| 18:54.43 | darth_mall | heh, cool, this kid in front of me is playing Ninja Gaiden |
| 18:54.48 | darth_mall | haven't played that in years |
| 18:56.47 | lurgy | darth_mall: :) |
| 18:57.05 | darth_mall | cool, with whom? |
| 18:57.10 | lurgy | Stryker |
| 18:57.32 | darth_mall | that's the one where you're gonna test their equipment, right? ;) |
| 18:58.05 | lurgy | heh |
| 18:58.06 | lurgy | no |
| 18:58.08 | lurgy | no it's not :) |
| 18:58.21 | lurgy | "hmm, i wonder if this works.." (gulp) |
| 18:58.28 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 18:58.34 | darth_mall | yep, that's the one I was thinking of ^^ |
| 18:58.36 | lurgy | "hey look it's my small intestine" |
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| 18:59.20 | darth_mall | who wouldn't be interested in seeing that? |
| 18:59.23 | darth_mall | hey KSoze |
| 18:59.30 | lurgy | heh |
| 18:59.32 | lurgy | well, me for one |
| 18:59.57 | lurgy | though if other people were really all that interested i might not begrudge them the opportunity |
| 19:00.02 | lurgy | it's better than going the other way |
| 19:00.37 | darth_mall | my tummy hurts so much |
| 19:02.27 | darth_mall | who remembers if the Real McCoy takes credit cards? |
| 19:02.47 | slimspace | they do |
| 19:03.20 | darth_mall | that's what I thought |
| 19:04.33 | lurgy | yep |
| 19:10.33 | scanline | blar |
| 19:10.36 | scanline | this is boring... |
| 19:12.08 | darth_mall | pants? |
| 19:12.20 | darth_mall | scanline: PORKCHOPSANDWICHES! |
| 19:12.20 | scanline | no pants! |
| 19:12.22 | scanline | pants are boring |
| 19:12.39 | ChipX86 | I only wear pants on Thursdays |
| 19:13.13 | darth_mall | ChipX86: PORKCHOPSANDWICHES! |
| 19:13.25 | darth_mall | owwwwwww... my tummy |
| 19:13.27 | ChipX86 | I get to fix computers today.. yay.. |
| 19:13.31 | darth_mall | weee |
| 19:14.32 | darth_mall | finally... time to get some food |
| 19:15.51 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1538 10gaim-galago/po/fr.po: It was magically decided that this file would be updated. |
| 19:16.43 | CIA-8 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1539 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/person-db.c): |
| 19:16.43 | CIA-8 | galago: - Move the person DB flush timeout value to a #define. |
| 19:16.43 | CIA-8 | galago: - Improve an error message on invalid magic number. |
| 19:17.37 | ChipX86 | "Martha Stewart had to walk a full block from the courthouse to her car." |
| 19:22.14 | kergoth`zzz | heh |
| 19:22.25 | kergoth`zzz | its 1:22pm adn i'm just waking up, and about to head into work |
| 19:22.26 | kergoth`zzz | odd |
| 19:22.36 | ChipX86 | odd? |
| 19:23.54 | kergoth | heh, well, its not like they're gonna fire me, but still, i should at least try to be into work at a reasonable hour |
| 19:24.15 | ChipX86 | I thought they were going to fire you? |
| 19:25.00 | ChipX86 | galago will never be released |
| 19:25.03 | ChipX86 | I keep finding bugs |
| 19:25.10 | kergoth | heh, i gave my 2 weeks notice a few days ago |
| 19:25.17 | kergoth | so nope, not gonna fire me anymore |
| 19:30.50 | lurgy | and He said, let there be purple_cow |
| 19:33.27 | lurgy | still home |
| 19:42.22 | darth_mall | yay |
| 19:43.05 | scanline | guh |
| 19:43.07 | scanline | that was fun |
| 19:43.35 | scanline | fire alarm went off in the physics building, we all evacuated and stood outside for a while.. fire truck came, parked outside for a while, nobody even got out of it |
| 19:43.47 | scanline | then after they let us back in, the lab had automatically locked |
| 19:43.59 | scanline | so we had to wait for someone with a key to show up |
| 19:44.03 | scanline | bleh |
| 19:44.25 | scanline | finally back in the lab now.. maybe I can get this writeup done |
| 19:46.34 | scanline | wow |
| 19:46.39 | scanline | VMWare wants to fly me out next thursday |
| 19:46.49 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 19:47.34 | darth_mall | scanline: cool |
| 19:47.39 | darth_mall | can I come? |
| 19:47.59 | darth_mall | I'll hide in your back pocket |
| 19:48.18 | darth_mall | I promise not to pinch you |
| 19:48.28 | kergoth | liar |
| 19:48.37 | scanline | so they have me flying into san francisco |
| 19:48.45 | scanline | then staying at a hotel in palo alto |
| 19:49.14 | ChipX86 | which hotel? Dinahs? |
| 19:49.19 | scanline | yes |
| 19:49.22 | ChipX86 | kick-ass hotel |
| 19:49.26 | scanline | cool |
| 19:49.35 | ChipX86 | that's where I stayed |
| 19:49.36 | scanline | $135/night.. I'd expect it to be |
| 19:49.38 | ChipX86 | you'll love it |
| 19:49.48 | scanline | how do I get there? |
| 19:49.57 | darth_mall | by taking me with you |
| 19:49.58 | ChipX86 | grr brb, phone |
| 19:50.03 | darth_mall | I'll be your chauffeur |
| 19:50.31 | scanline | and driving gloves? and a driving thong? |
| 19:50.31 | darth_mall | you should inform VMware you need two tickets |
| 19:50.34 | darth_mall | yes! |
| 19:50.37 | darth_mall | especially the thong |
| 19:50.46 | darth_mall | but especially the gloves |
| 19:51.20 | darth_mall | probably more than I can afford ^^ |
| 19:51.23 | purple_cow | probably a couple hundred |
| 20:00.21 | darth_mall | hmm... so clearlooks is really starting to grow on me |
| 20:09.59 | scanline | I made it this morning at maybe 8:00 |
| 20:10.16 | scanline | er, actually more like 10:00 |
| 20:10.18 | scanline | I think |
| 20:10.26 | purple_cow | how long was it left on? |
| 20:10.38 | scanline | just try it damnit |
| 20:10.41 | purple_cow | fine, fine |
| 20:11.02 | scanline | I made you coffee, you don't have to critique it so carefully before even tasting it |
| 20:11.14 | scanline | ! |
| 20:11.17 | scanline | ... |
| 20:11.20 | scanline | ... ... ... |
| 20:11.21 | lurgy | / |
| 20:11.23 | scanline | ... ... |
| 20:11.27 | lurgy | #! |
| 20:11.27 | scanline | ... ... ... ... |
| 20:11.32 | scanline | #!/bin/sh |
| 20:11.39 | ChipX86 | back |
| 20:11.40 | lurgy | #!/bin/true |
| 20:11.47 | ChipX86 | I want to go home. |
| 20:11.49 | scanline | #!/usr/bin/env gnome-session |
| 20:12.15 | ChipX86 | I can't believe how incredibly irritable and negative everybody is here.. I guess I just didn't notice it before |
| 20:12.15 | lurgy | #!/usr/bin/env gdb |
| 20:12.27 | ChipX86 | *this* is where my stress used to come from. |
| 20:12.45 | lurgy | ChipX86: #tacobeam? |
| 20:12.47 | ChipX86 | scanline: anyhow... Dinahs is off of El Camino Real, the one big street that spans across like 8 cities or so |
| 20:12.51 | ChipX86 | lurgy: no, Chico |
| 20:12.54 | lurgy | :) |
| 20:12.59 | ChipX86 | I don't belong here anymore. |
| 20:13.04 | lurgy | :( |
| 20:13.09 | ChipX86 | it's not home |
| 20:13.15 | ChipX86 | as much as I hate saying that |
| 20:13.16 | lurgy | yeah |
| 20:13.44 | ChipX86 | scanline: so the 22 bus goes all along El Camino |
| 20:13.55 | ChipX86 | from San Francisco, you'll take Caltrain to Palo Alto |
| 20:14.25 | ChipX86 | then I guess from there, you can hop on to the 88 or the 22. The 88 goes near VMware and along a few other streets, including one close to me |
| 20:14.31 | ChipX86 | actually |
| 20:14.37 | lurgy | yay close |
| 20:14.38 | ChipX86 | go to 511.com, click Trip Maker |
| 20:14.48 | ChipX86 | that'll map out what to take to get where |
| 20:15.00 | ChipX86 | (takes some playing around, the system is a bit odd on that site) |
| 20:15.48 | darth_mall | yay for slimspace! |
| 20:16.18 | darth_mall | speaking of floosies... purple_cow, did you ever hear back from that girl? |
| 20:16.49 | purple_cow | not yet |
| 20:17.57 | purple_cow | such is the problem with having to use an online venue to ask |
| 20:20.05 | lurgy | yep |
| 20:27.52 | purple_cow | argh |
| 20:28.02 | purple_cow | my desktop feels so slow when i'm emerging things |
| 20:28.07 | darth_mall | pants! |
| 20:29.10 | darth_mall | karma |
| 20:29.11 | scanline | ChipX86: ok. I'll take a look at that sometime between now and then :) |
| 20:29.25 | scanline | just turned in my lab, yay.. time to go find churchill navigation's office |
| 20:29.50 | purple_cow | good luck |
| 20:29.57 | scanline | thanks |
| 20:30.00 | darth_mall | go scanline go! |
| 20:30.03 | purple_cow | hmm. hdparm -I is cool |
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| 20:31.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: mud! |
| 20:39.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: why do we crucify ourselves? |
| 20:41.33 | kergoth | boo, work |
| 20:42.26 | darth_mall | kergoth: you killed KSoze |
| 20:43.00 | kergoth | oops |
| 20:43.04 | kergoth | hate it when that happens |
| 20:48.02 | darth_mall | time for class |
| 20:49.26 | kergoth | purple_cow: that this mortal coil is done. woke up and scp'd the Blood album |
| 20:49.40 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7308 10fyre/pipeline-editor/pipeline-editor.glade: use a hbox instead of an hpaned |
| 20:49.43 | kergoth | and yay for vnc, so i can search ubernet from here |
| 20:50.00 | kergoth | eep |
| 20:50.03 | kergoth | bad windows scp, bad! |
| 20:50.08 | kergoth | the directories went poof |
| 20:50.14 | kergoth | s/windows scp/putty scp/ |
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| 20:52.57 | kergoth | purple_cow: /home/kergoth/complete/ |
| 20:53.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:53.23 | kergoth | hmmmmm |
| 20:54.00 | purple_cow | kergoth: cool |
| 20:54.29 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7309 10fyre/pipeline-editor/pipeline-editor.glade: set a default size on the window |
| 20:56.14 | lurgy | lalala.. |
| 20:59.48 | cwisty | for what? |
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| 21:01.13 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 21:01.16 | purple_cow | monodevelop is pretty cool |
| 21:04.19 | lurgy | cwisty: phone interview |
| 21:04.35 | cwisty | for who? |
| 21:04.39 | cwisty | (that's what I thought) |
| 21:04.40 | lurgy | Stryker |
| 21:04.43 | lurgy | endoscopy |
| 21:04.45 | lurgy | :) |
| 21:04.50 | lurgy | hopefully not for a test intern |
| 21:04.55 | cwisty | OK |
| 21:04.59 | cwisty | that's what I thought too |
| 21:05.01 | kergoth | damnit vnc, lag less! |
| 21:05.03 | cwisty | just checking |
| 21:05.06 | lurgy | uh oh, cwisty is psychic! :) |
| 21:05.11 | cwisty | nah |
| 21:05.17 | cwisty | I just talk to you too much ;-) |
| 21:05.18 | lurgy | or just has a good memory |
| 21:05.20 | lurgy | hehe, yeah |
| 21:05.39 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7310 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (9 files): add all this sillyness to svn |
| 21:09.52 | lurgy | hmm, they're late |
| 21:09.53 | lurgy | late! |
| 21:09.55 | lurgy | shame |
| 21:13.06 | cwisty | hehe |
| 21:13.10 | cwisty | they don't love you! |
| 21:15.53 | lurgy | hehe |
| 21:15.57 | lurgy | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 21:16.22 | cwisty | j/k |
| 21:16.27 | cwisty | they'll just love you later |
| 21:17.11 | lurgy | :) |
| 21:17.14 | lurgy | i hope so |
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| 21:20.02 | lurgy | whatever i do, i need to make sure that atonal music is playing really loudly in the background |
| 21:20.13 | lurgy | yay orchid found her way back on |
| 21:21.07 | orchid | hey lurgylicious |
| 21:21.15 | lurgy | ooh i have a suffix now |
| 21:21.18 | lurgy | sweet |
| 21:21.43 | lurgy | how goes? |
| 21:21.59 | orchid | pretty good thanks |
| 21:22.18 | orchid | are you on march break now? |
| 21:22.34 | lurgy | not quite |
| 21:22.40 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7311 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (Main.cs pipeline-editor.glade): mess with signal handlers in the glade file, rename the main class from GladeApp to PipelineEditor |
| 21:22.42 | lurgy | after today and tomorrow :) |
| 21:23.54 | orchid | ahh :) |
| 21:28.35 | kergoth | OOo beta is so spiffy |
| 21:28.49 | lurgy | how good is the native toolkit integration? |
| 21:29.34 | kergoth | seems much better. at least, its all perty gtk2ish looking |
| 21:29.40 | kergoth | feels much more polished in general, ui and otherwise |
| 21:29.43 | lurgy | sweet |
| 21:30.13 | purple_cow | kergoth: uhm |
| 21:30.20 | purple_cow | a lot of the tracks on 'blood' seem incomplete :P |
| 21:30.40 | kergoth | eh, thats odd |
| 21:31.00 | kergoth | the scp completed successfully, and the album locally successfully verified for ubernet use |
| 21:31.55 | lurgy | yikes, quarter gigabyte source download |
| 21:32.03 | lurgy | crazy |
| 21:32.30 | purple_cow | so far 4, 5 & 6 have cut out early :P |
| 21:32.37 | lurgy | :( |
| 21:32.43 | purple_cow | i suppose it could be the nfs server messing thingsup |
| 21:33.04 | lurgy | yay for bandwidth that beats a kick in the pants |
| 21:33.51 | lurgy | ooh, cool.. right on queue, my playlist lands on some schoenberg |
| 21:33.57 | lurgy | now all that remains is for that lady to call me back |
| 21:35.59 | purple_cow | lurgy: you could call her... |
| 21:37.16 | kergoth | purple_cow: the .pun contains SHA1 sums for the mp3s |
| 21:37.26 | kergoth | purple_cow: you can use that to confirm that they match what i got from ubernet |
| 21:37.37 | kergoth | (if you havent removed it yet) |
| 21:38.17 | lurgy | purple_cow: not really |
| 21:38.35 | lurgy | purple_cow: i mean, sure, i could start at (111) 111-1111 |
| 21:38.43 | lurgy | but that will be a pain |
| 21:38.52 | lurgy | since our phone line doesn't do long distance |
| 21:39.19 | lurgy | =/ |
| 21:39.38 | purple_cow | kergoth: removed it and messed with tags |
| 21:39.45 | purple_cow | kergoth: i think i figured out the problem |
| 21:39.55 | purple_cow | spreadfs didn't get fam notifications for it, for some reason |
| 21:40.06 | purple_cow | so it had the same filenames cached but with different sizes |
| 21:40.10 | kergoth | ahh |
| 21:41.10 | kergoth | people on ubernet are still grabbing the new daft punk fro me |
| 21:41.17 | kergoth | wonder how long itll be before it settles now |
| 21:41.17 | kergoth | down |
| 21:41.20 | kergoth | damn fingers |
| 21:41.27 | kergoth | hmm.. i should be productive in some fashion today |
| 21:42.20 | purple_cow | lurgy: well, fam should support dnotify, but i don't think navi's kernel does |
| 21:42.52 | lurgy | ah |
| 21:42.52 | lurgy | gotcha |
| 21:43.08 | purple_cow | and we've had funky funky issues getting 2.6 to run on navi |
| 21:43.14 | lurgy | so it seems :( |
| 21:43.54 | purple_cow | is it just me, or is the clearlooks engine significantly faster than indubstrial? |
| 21:44.08 | pfault | I think it is |
| 21:44.27 | pfault | but it could just be my imagination |
| 21:44.41 | lurgy | could be |
| 21:44.47 | lurgy | yay for evince |
| 21:45.01 | lurgy | it looks like it will turn out nicely if gets to a 1.0 |
| 21:45.26 | purple_cow | lurgy: pretty sure it will get there relatively quickly - poppler is gaining a lot of momentum |
| 21:45.32 | lurgy | yay :) |
| 21:49.36 | lurgy | ooh new poppler ebuild |
| 21:51.39 | lurgy | yay whacked |
| 21:51.46 | lurgy | or something |
| 21:52.34 | purple_cow | it'll probably involve subclassing Gtk.Adjustment >:) |
| 21:53.14 | lurgy | heh |
| 21:54.35 | purple_cow | yay for prelink -faRm |
| 21:54.47 | lurgy | yay, phone |
| 21:55.54 | lurgy | heh, and.. she's rescheduling |
| 21:55.58 | cwisty | haha |
| 21:55.59 | cwisty | doh |
| 21:56.00 | purple_cow | hah, cool |
| 21:56.08 | lurgy | for, next Thursday |
| 21:56.09 | purple_cow | a PHP compiler for the CLR |
| 21:57.47 | purple_cow | i hope they'd find a highly efficient way to do it |
| 21:58.02 | purple_cow | i don't want to have to go through an entire prelink run every time i upgrade some piddly little thing |
| 21:58.25 | lurgy | well |
| 21:58.31 | lurgy | it shouldn't need to take long |
| 21:58.34 | lurgy | they have a list of the files |
| 21:58.42 | lurgy | so they should just need to run it on the files that are libraries |
| 21:58.58 | purple_cow | it's a little more complex than that... |
| 21:59.02 | lurgy | for the just-installed package |
| 21:59.07 | lurgy | oh yeah? |
| 21:59.24 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 21:59.34 | lurgy | for libraries with a lot of deps it will be |
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| 21:59.45 | lurgy | but for normal apps i'd think it should be pretty simple |
| 21:59.50 | purple_cow | they precompute code offsets for every library so there are no conflicts in any application |
| 21:59.55 | lurgy | oh |
| 22:00.00 | lurgy | poo |
| 22:00.18 | lurgy | i suppose that explains why it's taking so long for them to get this project out there :) |
| 22:03.43 | lurgy | my first guess would be communications |
| 22:03.48 | lurgy | but i'm not entirely sure |
| 22:04.13 | purple_cow | robo-american studies? |
| 22:04.16 | lurgy | hehe |
| 22:04.25 | lurgy | i imagine purple_cow is correct |
| 22:06.58 | lurgy | hehe |
| 22:07.01 | lurgy | “Ave Mario” |
| 22:08.14 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:11.06 | purple_cow | hmm, sounds like mail just arrived |
| 22:11.43 | lurgy | uh oh. |
| 22:11.45 | lurgy | vsm |
| 22:11.46 | lurgy | er |
| 22:11.48 | lurgy | can't have that |
| 22:12.30 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:12.39 | kergoth | 4.0 looks -really- nice |
| 22:12.51 | lurgy | yep |
| 22:13.00 | lurgy | there are (alpha and beta) ebuilds for it now in portage |
| 22:13.05 | kergoth | ah really? cool |
| 22:13.11 | kergoth | i should see if the oe gcc-snapshot build still works |
| 22:13.20 | kergoth | try crosscompiling with it |
| 22:13.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:14.16 | lurgy | then i'll proceed to break everything by merging |
| 22:14.18 | lurgy | ..it |
| 22:15.13 | lurgy | yay for purple_cow's weather plugin :) |
| 22:17.30 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:18.05 | purple_cow | because $2k would be mighty splendid |
| 22:21.32 | purple_cow | weirdo |
| 22:21.37 | cwisty | advisign fair |
| 22:21.42 | cwisty | I"m advising |
| 22:21.45 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 22:22.18 | cwisty | hahaha |
| 22:22.20 | cwisty | yeah well |
| 22:22.29 | cwisty | I'm pretty much just recruiting for ACM |
| 22:22.48 | purple_cow | the technique you used with me & scanline was pretty effective |
| 22:23.16 | cwisty | haha |
| 22:23.19 | cwisty | here have some money? |
| 22:24.22 | lurgy | money, you say |
| 22:24.23 | cwisty | haha |
| 22:24.34 | cwisty | that's how I got David to go to my last ACM meeting |
| 22:24.39 | lurgy | ^_^ |
| 22:25.06 | cwisty | well I gotta go, I'll most likely talk to you all from there |
| 22:27.04 | purple_cow | hmm, beagle has an sqlite dependency now |
| 22:27.26 | lurgy | spam! |
| 22:27.38 | kergoth | mm, chai |
| 22:27.54 | kergoth | i should go up to starbucks and get more, this is now cold (non-iced) |
| 22:30.29 | darth_mall | PORKCHOPSANDWICHES! |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7312 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (Main.cs pipeline-editor.glade): add stubs for all the menu events |
| 22:30.38 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 22:30.40 | purple_cow | what a pretty UI :) |
| 22:30.58 | darth_mall | wow... purple_cow's already started on that? |
| 22:31.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm just doing UI infrastructure stuff for now |
| 22:31.45 | purple_cow | we've got a lot of work to do :P |
| 22:31.56 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:31.59 | darth_mall | still |
| 22:32.13 | darth_mall | ugh... so tired |
| 22:33.13 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm happy to explain it to you whenever ;) |
| 22:33.24 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:33.37 | darth_mall | if not tonight then perhaps over break |
| 22:33.47 | darth_mall | depends on how quickly I finish my OS assignment |
| 22:37.05 | kergoth | it could be wrose |
| 22:37.07 | kergoth | worse, even |
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| 22:44.43 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7313 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (Main.cs pipeline-editor.glade): hook up signals for toolbar buttons |
| 22:50.25 | purple_cow | hmm, cool |
| 22:50.30 | purple_cow | http://www.mono-project.com/SVN <-- check out the bottom :) |
| 22:51.07 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (inc/Win32/winView.h src/Win32/winView.cpp src/mapedit.cpp): |
| 22:51.07 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: add prefs file storage |
| 22:51.07 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: set background color from prefs file |
| 22:58.03 | lurgy | purple_cow: :) |
| 22:58.04 | lurgy | hmm |
| 22:59.13 | lurgy | purple_cow: i'm thinking /navi/media/audio/composers/Shostakovich_Dmitri/ballet_suite_03/02_gavotte.mp3 is an ideally obnoxious choice for this round of trombone transcription ^_^ |
| 23:01.52 | purple_cow | can't go wrong with ballet suites |
| 23:03.23 | lurgy | no sirree |
| 23:03.29 | lurgy | hack composing at it's finest |
| 23:03.30 | purple_cow | whoa |
| 23:03.38 | purple_cow | the C# bindings for glade are really cool |
| 23:04.14 | file[laptop] | how rude, the IMAP server at work won't even allow me to create a new folder |
| 23:04.15 | file[laptop] | very very rude |
| 23:06.05 | purple_cow | whereby "really cool" i mean "totally sweet" |
| 23:09.38 | lurgy | :) |
| 23:09.58 | kergoth | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-304357.html |
| 23:09.59 | kergoth | ooh! |
| 23:10.08 | kergoth | "HOW TO use hotplug for managing 16-bit[*] PCMCIA cards " |
| 23:10.18 | kergoth | down with cardmgr! |
| 23:11.41 | file[laptop] | I admit defeat and switch to IMAP locally... |
| 23:17.18 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7314 10fyre/pipeline-editor/Main.cs: clean up things a bit, add treeview support code |
| 23:25.15 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (8 files in 5 dirs): add prefs dialog for seting background color on the fly |
| 23:30.34 | CIA-8 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3090.2.2 10openembedded/packages/pcmciautils/pcmciautils_001.bb: Add pcmciautils 001 (can use these to manage 16 bit pcmcia cards with hotplug, given a recent enough kernel and sysfsutils). |
| 23:30.41 | CIA-8 | openembedded: 03kergoth 07 * r1.3090.2.1 10openembedded/packages/sysfsutils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Apply libsysfs write attributes patch to sysfsutils (required for pcmciautils). |
| 23:36.08 | cwisty | thank god there was food here |
| 23:38.40 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7315 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (Main.cs pipeline-editor.glade pipeline-editor.pidb): add member variables for all the other widgets we'll need to mess with |
| 23:49.36 | purple_cow | time for the most important part: the about dialog |
| 23:52.19 | kergoth | purple_cow: have you seen http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-raif.html? |
| 23:52.33 | kergoth | looks like the unionfs guys are trying to do something like what you were doign on navi |
| 23:53.52 | purple_cow | neat |
| 23:55.17 | purple_cow | actually, wtf am i doing |
| 23:55.26 | purple_cow | the pipeline editor won't have an about dialog, the main program will :P |
| 23:56.30 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7316 10fyre/pipeline-editor/ (Main.cs pipeline-editor.glade pipeline-editor.pidb): prune menus |
| 23:58.30 | CIA-8 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7317 10fyre/pipeline-editor/Main.cs: ws |
