00:08.49 | ChipX86 | meh, everybody ships fedex anymore.. no same-day deliveries after a certain time |
00:09.01 | file[laptop] | hrm? |
00:09.02 | ChipX86 | er, s/anymore/nowadays |
00:09.04 | file[laptop] | ah |
00:09.17 | ChipX86 | I want to deliver flowers or chocolate to Jamie, and have it arrive tonight, but there's no chance of that |
00:10.31 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: you should be able to do flowers... (1800flowers, and other services will do it...) just need to find a florist near her... |
00:10.40 | nullpuppy | chocolates... that i dunno.. |
00:10.41 | ChipX86 | isn't it a bit late in the day though? |
00:11.23 | nullpuppy | oh, hrm.. 5.. yeah.. that might be more difficult :/ |
00:11.33 | nullpuppy | might still be possible, but dunno |
00:13.21 | ChipX86 | so far, it doesn't seem that way |
00:14.20 | ChipX86 | guess I'll have some arrive at work |
00:15.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86 is such a hopeless romantic :) |
00:15.54 | ChipX86 | http://www.blossomflorists.com/product/41-2.htm?cart=efddb66a7283b5785dbb0e95f0c5918e |
00:15.57 | ChipX86 | aww |
00:16.36 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I try ;) |
00:18.43 | scanline | woobeedoo |
00:19.03 | purple_cow | pfft |
00:20.32 | ChipX86 | bah, card messages |
00:23.35 | purple_cow | "You feel more like you do now to than you did when you used to" would be a good message |
00:23.45 | ChipX86 | haha |
00:23.58 | ChipX86 | I like mine better :) |
00:24.05 | purple_cow | oh? |
00:24.57 | ChipX86 | it's mushy |
00:25.21 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.83.182) |
00:25.47 | ChipX86 | "Why wait for certain days to show you how I appreciate you, when I appreciate you every day? *hugs*" |
00:28.32 | scanline | huh |
00:28.39 | scanline | I got bicycle grease on my printer |
00:28.44 | scanline | no idea how that happened either |
00:29.25 | ChipX86 | aww, Jenna called me |
00:29.37 | ChipX86 | love it when she does that, except I can't understand half of what she says over the phone |
00:29.55 | file[laptop] | all the girls are after ChipX86 |
00:30.01 | ChipX86 | she's 4 |
00:30.12 | file[laptop] | ...even at the early age! |
00:30.17 | ChipX86 | she's also my sister |
00:30.20 | file[laptop] | they always go after the old ones you know |
00:30.38 | file[laptop] | well then... ic |
00:30.49 | ChipX86 | :) |
00:31.01 | scanline | hah |
00:31.25 | scanline | purple_cow: I just found a big bottle of "bathroom, tub, and tile cleaner" when looking for various solvents with which to clean my printer. We'll have to see if it's any good on our crazy shower... |
00:31.42 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you are VERY silly |
00:32.08 | ChipX86 | I am? |
00:32.12 | file[laptop] | yes |
00:32.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
00:32.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
00:32.26 | scanline | er.. wtf |
00:32.30 | ChipX86 | ..? |
00:32.43 | file[laptop] | that was odd |
00:32.55 | scanline | xchat isn't saving my /ignore list.. I took file out of there a while ago but there he is back in again |
00:32.58 | scanline | and then it does that |
00:33.26 | file[laptop] | quite odd |
00:35.10 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7705 10fyre/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add filename & saved state to the pipeline. use the filename for the window title |
00:36.10 | ChipX86 | haha |
00:36.37 | ChipX86 | e-mail at work: "purse found in food supplies closet. stop by my office to claim. it's not your brand, ganesh." |
00:36.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7706 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: show saved status in the title too |
00:36.59 | file[laptop] | lol |
00:37.42 | ChipX86 | back to the brig I go |
00:38.01 | scanline | ChipX86: does everyone take advantage of flex time to the same extent you do? :) |
00:38.23 | ChipX86 | Alex tends to, and Mark gets in at 1 every day, and Joey (though he's a bad example) is never at the office |
00:38.27 | ChipX86 | but, I get work done! |
00:38.39 | ChipX86 | and I'm there for meetings and stuff, so nobody seems to care |
00:39.06 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7707 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: add some stubs for checking saved status on exit |
00:39.10 | ChipX86 | I was going to go in today, except for the whole "I don't have one single clean piece of clothing I can wear" problem |
00:39.15 | scanline | ChipX86: wow. it shouldn't be much of a change to my normal hours at all then :P |
00:39.17 | nullpuppy | silly ChipX86 and his productivity |
00:39.48 | ChipX86 | ~productivity |
00:39.49 | jbot | yay! i mean.. boo. |
00:40.02 | nullpuppy | jbot: botsnak |
00:40.05 | nullpuppy | jbot: botsnack |
00:40.05 | jbot | aw, gee, nullpuppy |
00:40.12 | scanline | yay for the traffic to CIA increasing, but the CPU usage still being about 1/3 of what it was |
00:40.27 | scanline | wow. perl6 |
00:40.31 | ChipX86 | to the laundry room with me I go, to the laundry |
00:40.37 | scanline | :) |
00:40.39 | scanline | yay brig |
00:40.43 | nullpuppy | awww, server reset in 14 minutes, guess i'll have to take a break from WoW ;) |
00:42.39 | scanline | huh |
00:42.54 | scanline | this guy has a .name TLD |
00:49.18 | file[laptop] | bleh package back at Fedex headquarters |
00:49.27 | file[laptop] | and hopefully they don't ship it back to the sender |
00:51.00 | ToyKeeper | Tacos! |
00:56.48 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
00:58.55 | ChipX86 | yay, someone I really don't want to talk to! |
00:59.06 | kergoth | yay |
00:59.13 | kergoth | damnit |
00:59.15 | kergoth | i lost my pliers |
00:59.16 | ChipX86 | steph's ex is IMing me. |
00:59.16 | kergoth | hmm |
00:59.29 | ChipX86 | I often wonder, why do I use IM? |
00:59.42 | ChipX86 | I should make new accounts and just not give them out to anybody but close friends or people I trust |
01:00.20 | kergoth | good plan |
01:06.26 | ChipX86 | shit |
01:06.26 | ChipX86 | brb |
01:11.01 | ChipX86 | phew.. accidentally left $10 in the laundry room |
01:11.12 | ChipX86 | and there's a duck swiming in one of our pools |
01:17.07 | scanline | hmm, cool |
01:17.25 | scanline | I let the battery in our fridge therm keep draining even though it's been way past "dead" for a couple weeks |
01:17.39 | scanline | looks like instead of reporting bad temperature data, it just starts to send a really week radio signal |
01:17.47 | scanline | yay for sane failure modes |
01:19.18 | scanline | wow |
01:19.22 | scanline | this battery is *really* dead |
01:19.36 | scanline | the therms are amazing at sucking every last bit of power from a 9V |
01:21.25 | ChipX86 | "We are arming the chicken cannon!" |
01:21.29 | ChipX86 | yay mythbusters |
01:26.10 | scanline | hmm |
01:26.19 | scanline | I can't even find those old disks from navi.. I think I gave them to lurgy |
01:26.26 | scanline | maybe I should just buy yoshi a new disk |
01:35.53 | ChipX86 | yay, Mythbusters was just down the road for this episode |
01:36.51 | kergoth | fran drescher makes me want to shoot someone |
01:36.53 | kergoth | preferably her |
01:37.32 | ChipX86 | :) |
01:46.55 | ChipX86 | resize_vertically = (!! resize_vertically); /* normalize */ |
01:47.07 | ChipX86 | that's odd |
01:48.23 | scanline | nah |
01:48.30 | ChipX86 | I understand it, I've just never seen it before |
01:48.30 | scanline | that forces it to 0 or 1 |
01:48.51 | scanline | I usually see something more like "x = x != 0", but !!x is almost as common |
01:49.01 | ChipX86 | hmm, never seen it before |
01:54.30 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1655 10libgalago-gtk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Added the beginnings of the contact chooser widget. |
02:00.15 | kergoth | my shell script has now exported 9,052 changesets from the oe repo as patches |
02:00.18 | kergoth | and it isnt done |
02:00.19 | kergoth | sheesh |
02:00.31 | file[laptop] | kergoth: crazy! |
02:10.55 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1656 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog NEWS pixmaps/Makefile.am): Fix the GALAGO_GTK_STOCK_PERSON stock icon. |
02:19.21 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1657 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-contact-chooser.c): Add "People" and "All Contacts" items, and a separator between them and the individual services. |
02:29.14 | ChipX86 | this is going to be sexy |
02:29.42 | kergoth | woo, sexy |
02:29.47 | kergoth | you know |
02:29.51 | kergoth | i probably should have slept last night |
02:29.57 | ChipX86 | yes |
02:30.15 | ChipX86 | I may be talked into playing WoW in a bit |
02:37.09 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1658 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog tests/test-chooser.c): Fix the feed name and dialog titles in test-chooser. |
02:39.14 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/galago-chooser-1.png |
02:39.39 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: I assume you're happy? |
02:39.39 | kergoth | neat :) |
02:39.45 | ChipX86 | sure |
02:39.48 | scanline | cool |
02:40.07 | kergoth | 10,166 csets exported and still going |
02:40.18 | kergoth | i think its exporting those 3,000 -empty- merge changesets |
02:40.23 | kergoth | gr |
02:41.43 | kergoth | bleh |
02:48.29 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (~zak@128.138.74.40) |
02:48.55 | scanline | hi zak |
02:48.56 | zak | http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml |
02:49.01 | zak | tehe |
02:49.09 | scanline | hehe |
02:50.34 | *** topic/#tacobeam by zak -> Badgers may be run without security antennas, but this is not recommended. Insecure badgers may be hacked by anyone with a compatible card and badger bits. |
02:51.07 | scanline | zak: so besides finding funny web sites, what are you up to? |
02:52.13 | zak | hw |
02:52.17 | scanline | yay |
02:52.20 | zak | and badger mutilation |
02:53.44 | scanline | "The paper should burn with green flames. Black or gray means the herbs were improperly prepared. Purple flames indicate kernel panic" |
02:55.04 | scanline | "Do not allow your zombie badger to consume mushrooms or African snakes, or your badger may emit catchy techno music." |
02:56.13 | kergoth | hah |
02:56.57 | lurgy | yay mute |
02:57.19 | scanline | yay for not having speakers plugged into my computer :P |
03:00.40 | lurgy | =* |
03:00.42 | lurgy | er |
03:00.43 | lurgy | :( |
03:00.53 | scanline | no, that's a good thing |
03:01.00 | lurgy | oh? |
03:01.15 | scanline | yeah. I've had them plugged into my rio lately, for music |
03:01.24 | ChipX86 | I need to fix my rio |
03:01.26 | lurgy | ah |
03:01.31 | lurgy | well then.. yay i reckon |
03:01.57 | kergoth | my iriver has sat on my desk collecting dust, i should put some of my recent tunes on it |
03:04.20 | zak | hehe |
03:13.01 | ChipX86 | "All of civilization was just an effort to impress the opposite sex.. and sometimes the same sex." |
03:14.52 | scanline | hehe |
03:15.24 | zak | sadly that is true. |
03:15.27 | ChipX86 | yep |
03:17.25 | kergoth | that reminds me of that comedy routine where the comedian was saying that everything men buy is to get women, and that if we could sleep with women in cardboard boxes, we'd never buy houses |
03:18.00 | numist | yay Im employed |
03:18.04 | kergoth | yay |
03:18.08 | ChipX86 | yay |
03:18.30 | numist | yay I get a lappy 486 friday and then I can telecommute, which next week will be from my gf's house since she has the week off and its her bday |
03:19.18 | kergoth | god, i've been playing too much WoW |
03:19.25 | ChipX86 | heh |
03:19.27 | ChipX86 | I should go play |
03:19.29 | kergoth | i read numist dances and picture one of the chars from wow bursting into dance |
03:19.33 | ChipX86 | hahah |
03:19.38 | ChipX86 | I've been dreaming in WoW |
03:19.40 | kergoth | haha |
03:19.43 | scanline | ... |
03:19.44 | numist | ... |
03:20.21 | ChipX86 | it's not *that* weird |
03:20.40 | kergoth | i've dreamed of being inside of all sorts of games |
03:20.42 | kergoth | quake, doom |
03:20.46 | kergoth | those were some eerie ones |
03:20.49 | ChipX86 | :) |
03:21.22 | kergoth | ChipX86: i love that the peons in the orc area have the exact same voices as the peons from warcraft 2 |
03:21.27 | kergoth | (orc area in wow) |
03:21.29 | ChipX86 | yeah |
03:29.00 | purple_cow | yay for that pendulum concert having a couple cool pieces |
03:32.53 | purple_cow | time to make dinner |
03:35.39 | ChipX86 | WoW time |
03:35.46 | scanline | http://www.trinary.cc |
03:35.56 | scanline | that guy really doesn't make a convincing case for trinary logic... |
03:36.07 | lurgy | hehe |
03:36.49 | scanline | it has logic gates like 'rotate up', 'min', and 'magnitude' |
03:37.12 | lurgy | hmm |
03:37.19 | lurgy | " |
03:37.19 | lurgy | As a member of APPA: The Association of Higher Education Facilities Officers, |
03:37.19 | lurgy | The University of Colorado at Boulder is participating in a national student |
03:37.19 | lurgy | survey to better understand the importance of and satisfaction with facilities on your college campus." |
03:37.20 | scanline | http://www.trinary.cc/Tutorial/Transistors/Transistors.htm |
03:37.29 | scanline | looks like that's all RTL logic |
03:37.36 | scanline | and they're ridiculously complex compared to binary gates |
03:38.08 | scanline | I mean.. look at the 'magnitude' gate |
03:38.17 | scanline | 4 diodes, 5 resitors, and an *op amp*? |
03:38.18 | purple_cow | hrm. there's something beeping in darth_mall's room |
03:38.25 | lurgy | yay beeping |
03:38.30 | lurgy | purple_cow: yay for a couple cool pieces indeed |
03:38.34 | lurgy | purple_cow: how was the last piece? |
03:38.39 | scanline | who the hell wants to use logic gates that complex... |
03:38.46 | ChipX86 | kergoth, nullpuppy? |
03:39.01 | lurgy | hehe |
03:39.07 | nullpuppy | sure, gonna play my shaman though :) he's 13. almost 14 now |
03:39.13 | scanline | ooh.. binary parts are "legacy" now |
03:39.17 | nullpuppy | just need to go turn in this quest to get new totem ... |
03:39.25 | purple_cow | lurgy: some parts of it were really neat and some parts kind of bleh |
03:40.47 | lurgy | nod |
03:40.51 | purple_cow | scanline: but it lets you save pins on higher order operations! |
03:41.04 | purple_cow | you were there? |
03:41.25 | lurgy | for the first half ;) |
03:41.31 | lurgy | then i came home cuz i gotta get other stuff done |
03:46.33 | lurgy | john neurohr is such a ham :P |
03:47.01 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
03:47.12 | lurgy | (obviously ;)) |
03:47.25 | purple_cow | that's an especially hammy piece, though |
03:49.56 | darth_mall | Yay! Ajay called!@ |
03:50.08 | darth_mall | and I'm pretty sure he said he was coming to see the Animation Show! =D |
03:52.34 | file[laptop] | this is odd, this pop tastes like... well... shampoo? |
03:56.18 | ChipX86 | mmm.. |
03:56.47 | darth_mall | file[laptop]: sounds yummy |
03:57.01 | file[laptop] | tastes like fruit |
03:58.13 | lurgy | purple_cow: :) |
03:58.15 | lurgy | purple_cow: it's true |
04:01.19 | file[laptop] | yay Mythbusters make me happy |
04:02.50 | purple_cow | way i see it, with so many people doing this silly atkins thing, there's gotta be a surplus, right? someone's got to pick up the slack :) |
04:06.34 | file[laptop] | goodnight everyone |
04:10.54 | ChipX86 | kergoth: poke |
04:17.28 | darth_mall | dnd? |
04:18.46 | purple_cow | drag and drop |
04:26.37 | darth_mall | who wants to see an awesome picture? |
04:27.24 | darth_mall | http://navi.cx/~evan/Ev_and_Pody.jpg |
04:30.11 | purple_cow | wow, darth_mall was thin and pimpled |
04:37.34 | darth_mall | yep |
04:37.52 | scanline | hmm |
04:38.09 | scanline | I don't think I have any old pictures of me.. but I doubt any good ones exist :P |
04:38.27 | darth_mall | but the whole point of the pic is the handsomest dog evar =D |
04:38.30 | scanline | yep |
04:40.00 | darth_mall | hmm... it's kinda funny how much like Fushigi 12 kingdoms is |
04:47.42 | scanline | hah |
04:47.48 | scanline | google maps has a good picture of DCHS |
04:48.46 | scanline | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.389226,-104.857432&sll=39.372222,-104.855556&spn=0.006427,0.008926&sspn=0.091553,0.161205&t=k&hl=en |
04:49.01 | scanline | not sure why it won't link right to the highest zoom level |
04:50.04 | darth_mall | hey look! it's like that school I hated |
04:50.08 | scanline | yep |
04:50.55 | scanline | and you can see the top of castle rock if you go south a bit |
04:51.24 | darth_mall | yeppers |
04:51.32 | purple_cow | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.971995,-105.245955&spn=0.004689,0.007875&t=k&hl=en <-- and look, a school i hated |
04:51.33 | darth_mall | and you can see where I bured those bodies! |
04:51.50 | purple_cow | mine's shaped more interestingly than yours ;) |
04:51.56 | scanline | wow, it's all polygonal and stuff |
04:52.11 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how many tennis courts did you guys have? |
04:53.04 | darth_mall | that was more of an exclamation because of how aghast I was, rather then a question |
04:53.05 | purple_cow | hmm, and viele lake is even the right color in the satellite photos |
04:55.17 | merlin262 | ~lart Mitsubishi |
04:55.27 | merlin262 | ~lart Mitsubishi |
04:55.29 | darth_mall | jbot: you suck now |
04:55.38 | darth_mall | those larts are all lame |
04:55.44 | merlin262 | ~lart Mitsubishi |
04:55.48 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+o scanline] by ChanServ |
04:55.57 | *** mode/#tacobeam [+q jbot!*@*] by scanline |
04:56.00 | *** mode/#tacobeam [-o scanline] by scanline |
04:56.03 | darth_mall | lol |
04:56.14 | merlin262 | bah, humbug |
04:56.41 | merlin262 | poor jbot |
05:04.51 | darth_mall | wow... that was a little jarring |
05:04.58 | darth_mall | Social D to Reel Big Fish |
05:05.11 | darth_mall | I kinda liked it though... =D |
05:05.47 | kergoth | hehe |
05:06.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7708 10fyre/src/ElementList.cs: blah |
05:06.56 | purple_cow | kergoth: uhh, where'd those sugarcubes albums go? |
05:08.43 | darth_mall | kergoth: sell out with me, oh yeah! |
05:08.51 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I moved them to /tmp/audio-incoming or something |
05:09.05 | darth_mall | to get them off of /home |
05:09.19 | purple_cow | /home has almost 2G free right now... |
05:09.26 | scanline | purple_cow: I dont' want audio on /home |
05:09.40 | scanline | /tmp is an appropriate place for them.. they're temporary, after all |
05:10.12 | darth_mall | there we go |
05:10.19 | scanline | purple_cow: /home has filled up two or three times recently, and every time I've lost a bunch of email |
05:11.11 | darth_mall | what was that meeting about this afternoon? |
05:11.17 | scanline | which one? |
05:11.20 | scanline | oh |
05:11.30 | scanline | that was one of the former science team people, coming back to chat with us about things |
05:11.33 | darth_mall | he looked older then the rest of you folks I know |
05:11.41 | darth_mall | ah, that explains it then, don't it =D |
05:12.22 | scanline | yeah. he worked on our spectrophotometer maybe.. 5 years ago |
05:13.07 | darth_mall | wow... Nutt's explaination of the next-fit policy is thoroughly confusing |
05:18.06 | scanline | do you know if they really want you to have leaf objects in this composite pattern include links to their parent? |
05:18.18 | scanline | that seems unnecessary at best |
05:19.46 | darth_mall | I did cuz why not, but I don't think purple_cow did |
05:20.15 | scanline | this is stupid |
05:20.17 | purple_cow | I did, 'cuz why not |
05:20.29 | purple_cow | it was just 3 extra lines of code |
05:20.45 | scanline | and an ugly circular dependency! |
05:20.59 | scanline | this is supposed to be a class on design, yet he doesn't even mention that this is an important decision? |
05:21.06 | scanline | blahhhh |
05:23.58 | darth_mall | figures the class I miss last week is stuff I don't know, and the class I go to is just a review of the test =P |
05:24.05 | scanline | this whole homework problem has some of the most unpythonic code i've ever written, because I doubt the graders really understand anything other than the Java way of doing OOP |
05:25.12 | darth_mall | did you give each class its own file? |
05:25.23 | scanline | haha |
05:25.26 | scanline | no |
05:25.27 | darth_mall | (also note the directory structure required for submission =P) |
05:25.32 | scanline | yeah, I saw that |
05:25.34 | darth_mall | ok |
05:25.39 | darth_mall | I wouldn't have noticed if purple_cow hadn't told me |
05:26.10 | darth_mall | cuz how hard is it to do `python observer.py` |
05:26.47 | purple_cow | yay sugarcubes |
05:28.07 | darth_mall | oh no! |
05:28.10 | darth_mall | like wha? |
05:28.14 | scanline | generator expressions |
05:28.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
05:28.22 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
05:28.38 | darth_mall | oooh... generators |
05:33.58 | scanline | purple_cow: do you have a copy of windows XP, or any idea where navi's extra hard disks went? |
05:34.04 | scanline | I think I let lurgy borrow them, but I'm not sure |
05:34.25 | scanline | hmm |
05:34.29 | darth_mall | if those are the ones you're looking for |
05:34.37 | scanline | if it's a real install disk, not a recovery disk |
05:36.11 | darth_mall | erm... |
05:36.16 | darth_mall | I meant hard disk |
05:36.35 | darth_mall | wait... |
05:36.39 | scanline | nm |
05:36.42 | scanline | purple_cow had one |
05:36.52 | scanline | oh, those disks |
05:37.01 | scanline | well, I'll try one of those if windows won't install on this one |
05:44.37 | purple_cow | silly darth_mall and his giving |
05:46.52 | purple_cow | glurg |
06:08.36 | darth_mall | yep |
06:31.52 | *** join/#tacobeam samyb (~samy@212.76.83.182) |
06:32.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7709 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: start documenting this silly stuff |
06:35.16 | darth_mall | wtf |
06:35.20 | darth_mall | I can't get subs on this ep |
06:36.45 | darth_mall | there they are |
06:38.30 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7710 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: add the first subclass... |
06:42.56 | ChipX86 | 2 hours 20 mins later, phone call ends |
06:51.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7711 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: finish element subclasses, make it pretty |
06:54.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7712 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: it's amazing how much less painful these are with a real tool |
06:55.28 | purple_cow | hey neat! |
06:55.34 | purple_cow | it's got an svg output mode |
06:56.35 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7713 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: rename that particular diagram, so we can keep these things separate and *small* |
06:57.53 | purple_cow | unfortunately, it looks like argo doesn't do sequence diagrams yet |
06:58.33 | darth_mall | welp, bed time for me |
07:02.58 | purple_cow | hmm |
07:10.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7714 10fyre/src/Dialogs.cs: make Dialog an abstract class, since it doesn't make sense to instantiate dialogs with no buttons |
07:12.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7715 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: add an inheritance diagram for Dialogs |
07:22.25 | purple_cow | argouml needs to do the document scrolley expansion stuff that fyre's pipeline editor does ;) |
07:22.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7716 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: add the beginnings of an organizational diagram, hide compartments where it makes sense |
07:23.05 | purple_cow | time to shower |
07:57.19 | scanline | ooh, and with a working windows on a fastish machine I can finally try the keyhole demo |
08:05.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7717 10fyre/doc/uml.zargo: bleh, the relationships are getting kind of messy. |
08:37.09 | scanline | wow, keyhole is fun to play with |
08:37.29 | scanline | it's really easy to gain 1400ft or so of elevation on a bike near boulder ;) |
08:58.03 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1659 10libgalago-gtk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Split the service list part of the contacts chooser into its own widget. |
08:58.05 | ChipX86 | I should be in bed |
08:59.01 | purple_cow | hmm, me too |
09:11.48 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1660 10libgalago-gtk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fleshed out the ServiceList API a bit, and made the People and All Contacts items optional. |
09:16.16 | scanline | ooh |
09:16.21 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1661 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-contact-chooser.c): |
09:16.21 | CIA-5 | galago: - Set the "Show offline contacts" checkbox's default properly. |
09:16.22 | scanline | I think I just found ChipX86's apartment in keyhole |
09:16.23 | CIA-5 | galago: - Hide offline accounts when "Show offline contacts" isn't checked. |
09:16.29 | ChipX86 | scanline: neat |
09:16.31 | ChipX86 | screenshot :D |
09:17.06 | ChipX86 | mmm this dialog is looking pretty |
09:17.11 | ChipX86 | shame I should be in bed asleep right now |
09:17.27 | purple_cow | ChipX86: screenshot? |
09:17.38 | ChipX86 | or, save? |
09:17.48 | ChipX86 | oh |
09:17.50 | ChipX86 | of the dialog |
09:17.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: of the dialog, silly |
09:17.56 | ChipX86 | still this: http://osiris.chipx86.com/galago-chooser-1.png |
09:18.24 | ChipX86 | but the API is coming together and the dialog will look cool once I get all the support I want in it for going into a person and getting the accounts, and having a path bar for it |
09:18.30 | purple_cow | nifty |
09:18.48 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/keyhole-1.jpeg |
09:19.03 | ChipX86 | yep, that's it! |
09:19.07 | scanline | yay, I win |
09:19.28 | scanline | haha |
09:19.31 | scanline | elevation, 22 ft |
09:19.38 | ChipX86 | looks weird from up here |
09:19.44 | scanline | everything does |
09:19.56 | scanline | I should show your our apartments |
09:20.01 | ChipX86 | yay, I can see the balcony above mine |
09:20.05 | ChipX86 | and the tree outside my apartment |
09:20.14 | scanline | woo, trippy zooming |
09:21.19 | scanline | http://navi.cx/~micah/keyhole-2.jpeg |
09:21.52 | scanline | 5138 ft :) |
09:22.40 | ChipX86 | neat |
09:22.44 | ChipX86 | hard to make out anything |
09:23.14 | scanline | yeah |
09:23.17 | scanline | well, there isn't much to make out |
09:23.25 | scanline | no balconies, pools, or vegetation |
09:23.34 | scanline | just your basic small apartment building |
09:24.09 | scanline | blah, hungry... you'd think us humans had to have food on a regular basis or something |
09:24.16 | ChipX86 | heh |
09:24.28 | ChipX86 | should sleep... hmr |
09:26.05 | scanline | hmm |
09:26.28 | scanline | wonder if I can get my vmware disk image with Protel running under vmware in windows |
09:36.02 | scanline | hah |
09:36.13 | scanline | according to keyhole, my parents' house is a little under 1 mile from KOA |
09:38.14 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1662 10libgalago-gtk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Split out part of GalagoGtkContactChooser into GalagoGtkContactList. |
13:10.57 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault_ (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
14:10.43 | CIA-5 | voiceconduits: 03jcolp * 10classres/ (11 files): Tons of updates, gotta push them to CVS. |
15:26.48 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (~pagefault@66.199.241.90) |
15:35.03 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx16.asm: Clean up code and remove useless crap |
15:35.57 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx16.asm: Fix for non transparent sprites on a subscreen |
15:54.35 | CIA-5 | zsnes: 03pagefault * 10zsnes/src/video/newgfx16.asm: Removed obsolete code |
15:55.18 | darth_mall | uhoh... pagefault's doin' stuff |
16:05.18 | pfault | yep |
16:07.01 | ToyKeeper | Ah, fun... random pick-up lines... http://toykeeper.net/programs/mad/pickup |
16:08.59 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
16:10.44 | darth_mall | roflmao |
16:10.57 | darth_mall | I know you don't know me, but if my pleasure scepter is perverted, will you screw it? |
16:12.39 | ToyKeeper | Oi... "Roses are red, violets are blue, I have warts, and so will you." |
16:13.31 | nullpuppy | You know what they say about a nun with malignant toes. |
16:14.58 | ToyKeeper | Hold on while I slip into something a little more lesbian. |
16:15.24 | darth_mall | rofl |
16:15.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7718 10fyre/src/ (Dialogs.cs PipelineEditor.cs): |
16:15.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Fiddling with the confirmation dialog. This is going to take |
16:15.58 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: a little more thought. |
16:16.22 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
16:16.24 | nullpuppy | If God made anything more enormous than your cleavage, I hope he kept it for his blender. |
16:17.34 | darth_mall | what? |
16:17.36 | darth_mall | lol |
16:18.54 | nullpuppy | Want to make a porno? We don't have to tape it. |
16:19.21 | darth_mall | =D |
16:26.52 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.83.182) |
16:29.10 | darth_mall | hmm... I should head out soon |
16:29.16 | purple_cow | hmm.... me too |
16:29.20 | darth_mall | that answers that |
16:55.24 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: updated redsoxfan IPs, after his removal from guleauge |
16:59.31 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
17:09.29 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1663 10libgalago-gtk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added stubs for the contact chooser API. |
17:12.51 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7719 10fyre/src/ (Dialogs.cs PipelineEditor.cs): Create a class for the close without saving dialog. |
17:14.21 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7720 10fyre/src/PipelineEditor.cs: small change in dialog text |
17:15.26 | ChipX86 | hope those flowers get there today.. |
17:22.07 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r1664 10libgalago-gtk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
17:22.07 | CIA-5 | galago: - Renamed GalagoGtkServiceListType to GalagoGtkServiceListItemType. |
17:22.09 | CIA-5 | galago: - Renamed galago_gtk_service_list_set_current_type to galago_gtk_service_list_set_current_item_type. |
17:22.12 | CIA-5 | galago: - We now listen to the tree selection changed signal and update the service or type. |
17:25.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7721 10fyre/src/Dialogs.cs: This spacing still doesn't look quite right to me. |
17:43.00 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, the dialogs are relatively insignificant ;) |
17:43.49 | purple_cow | <teacher> how many milliseconds in a second? <student> a hundred! |
17:43.51 | purple_cow | =P |
17:44.16 | darth_mall | roflmao |
17:44.31 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what app are you using for the UML diagrams? |
17:44.55 | slimspace | hey everyone |
17:45.01 | darth_mall | sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimspace |
17:48.01 | darth_mall | oooh... there's some kind of MacGyver viewing going on next tuesday |
17:51.04 | slimspace | s/look/loop |
17:53.02 | slimspace | I really just don't know how to contribute. Futzing with the interface is fine, but I really don't know where the project is supposed to be going |
17:53.04 | numist | good luck, I cant do a damn thing with C# :P |
17:53.35 | numist | fair enough |
17:53.40 | darth_mall | they're so happy |
17:53.48 | slimspace | darth_mall: you, purple_cow, and scanline I think have a really clear idea of what it's supposed to do, based on how fyre 1 worked, but since I didn't ever work on fyre 1, I'm pretty clueless. |
17:54.08 | darth_mall | slimspace: I'm actually only just getting an idea of what's really going on |
17:54.32 | darth_mall | the only thing in fyre 1 I really get isn't actually acessible without hacking the source ^^ |
17:54.44 | slimspace | hmm... |
17:55.00 | slimspace | yeah, that's about my understanding of it too |
17:55.33 | slimspace | I just wish I knew where he wanted the project to go. |
17:55.50 | slimspace | I can't even picture the finished program because I don't know really what it's supposed to do in the end. |
17:55.57 | darth_mall | ah |
17:56.14 | slimspace | I mean, I understand the point of it, but I don't have any idea how he wants to design it. |
17:56.53 | darth_mall | well... I think coming up with the design is the whole point ^^ |
17:57.11 | slimspace | yeah, but we're all developing without a design made is the problem. |
17:57.33 | darth_mall | well... there is some design going on, incrementally |
17:57.45 | slimspace | where? |
17:58.02 | darth_mall | rather then doing it Anderson's way of sitting down and doing all the design before coding, things are being addressed as they come up |
17:58.18 | darth_mall | there's some stuff in the TODO about things that need addressing |
17:58.56 | slimspace | right, I saw that. But where's the idea for the program comming from? I really just have no idea how the architecture is supposed to be |
17:59.48 | darth_mall | I'm not sure if I can answer that |
18:00.26 | slimspace | well, usually when I work on a program, I have an idea of what goes where. But here, there's no design for me to look at, and I understand only basically what the program is even supposed to do. |
18:00.39 | slimspace | I don't have the tie-ins with Fyre 2 in my mind, so I can't develop to that |
18:01.14 | darth_mall | when's your next class? |
18:01.20 | slimspace | in a half hour |
18:01.25 | darth_mall | damn |
18:01.33 | slimspace | I won't be back until 3:30 |
18:02.04 | darth_mall | can you come over tonight? |
18:02.21 | slimspace | I think so, until around 6:30 |
18:03.18 | darth_mall | might be a good idea, if purple_cow is around |
18:03.32 | slimspace | yeah. I'm debating staying the weekend too |
18:04.03 | slimspace | I donno, I just feel a bit intimidated to start, given all that purple_cow has already put in |
18:04.20 | darth_mall | yeah, but there's still a ton of stuff that hasn't been dealt with |
18:04.31 | darth_mall | and probably a lot of stuff we haven't discovered we need to deal with |
18:04.39 | darth_mall | at least, that's the assumption I always work from ^^ |
18:04.50 | slimspace | mmm, yeah |
18:04.57 | darth_mall | there's plenty of work to be done ^^ |
18:05.08 | darth_mall | I'm actually a little worried that this may have been a bit of a big project |
18:05.14 | slimspace | yeah, me too |
18:05.31 | darth_mall | but oh well ^^ |
18:05.32 | slimspace | especially considering we have to be done with it by the end of the month |
18:05.35 | darth_mall | it's a cool project |
18:10.20 | darth_mall | goddammit han |
18:10.23 | darth_mall | stfu and end class |
18:11.28 | purple_cow | yeah, lots of work to do |
18:12.23 | slimspace | I think we should just sit down and hammer out the bigger design tasks we need to do, like the interface, and the pipeline itself |
18:14.14 | scanline | damnit. yoshi won't boot without a windows XP cd in the drive |
18:14.30 | scanline | this is so odd.. it's not just a bad MBR, it's something more strange |
18:16.07 | ChipX86 | http://www.nescapades.com/gameroom.htm |
18:17.56 | nullpuppy | i want a room like that |
18:18.01 | ChipX86 | "What games do you have?" "All of them." |
18:18.11 | nullpuppy | i don't see a ps2 though |
18:18.24 | scanline | purple_cow: is there an ubuntu CD anywhere in the apartment? |
18:18.26 | scanline | or darth_mall ? |
18:26.50 | darth_mall | scanline: I have no ubuntu |
18:29.15 | scanline | ooooh |
18:29.20 | scanline | macgyver next week, for e-days |
18:30.13 | darth_mall | yep |
18:30.21 | scanline | nod |
18:30.25 | darth_mall | scanline: do you know what purple_cow was using for the UML stuff? |
18:30.29 | scanline | argo uml |
18:30.51 | darth_mall | ah |
18:30.54 | ChipX86 | *grumble* they had better ship those flowers |
18:31.02 | ChipX86 | and let me know about it |
18:31.03 | darth_mall | ChipX86: damn straight! |
18:31.40 | TD | it's da Chipster |
18:31.42 | scanline | yay snapshot manager |
18:31.54 | ChipX86 | TD: lies! |
18:32.03 | ChipX86 | scanline: yep |
18:32.07 | ChipX86 | ours rocks more. It has svg |
18:32.18 | darth_mall | yay svg |
18:32.21 | ChipX86 | yep |
18:32.25 | ChipX86 | that was a fun project :P |
18:32.45 | scanline | =D |
18:32.59 | scanline | right now I don't even have linux on my desktop |
18:33.10 | ChipX86 | why? |
18:33.28 | scanline | installed windows XP, did so on a different hard disk since the other one is getting kinda flaky |
18:34.06 | scanline | really all I need to be able to do on my desktop machine right now is play games and run stuff inside vmware. I'll copy my linux stuffs back on later when that changes |
18:34.37 | ChipX86 | oh no, scanline's going to move to windows forever! |
18:35.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7722 10fyre/ (TODO data/alert-dialog.glade src/PipelineEditor.cs): |
18:35.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Spacing in the glade file that didn't get committed during class. |
18:35.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Small note about the close without saving dialog in the TODO. Removed |
18:35.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: some debuggative cruft in the PipelineEditor. |
18:35.58 | scanline | mmm |
18:36.11 | scanline | these multiple snapshots are great for using the protel 30-day trial |
18:36.19 | scanline | used to be I'd have to copy the whole disk image |
18:36.20 | darth_mall | ^^ |
18:37.32 | scanline | I think this flaky desktop machine is a bit more stable under XP, aside from not booting at all |
18:37.44 | scanline | the BIOS isn't seeing my hard disk's boot record at all |
18:38.00 | scanline | but if I have an XP CD in there and I let that boot off the hard disk, it works fine |
18:40.02 | scanline | ooh |
18:40.08 | scanline | quick switch mode + autofit guest makes me happy |
18:40.29 | ChipX86 | yep |
18:40.47 | ChipX86 | you're welcome! |
18:40.57 | scanline | hehe, that was you? |
18:41.00 | ChipX86 | partially |
18:41.03 | scanline | cool |
18:41.17 | ChipX86 | not quick switch mode, but I worked on some of the autofit stuff. Then regis did the rest |
18:41.20 | darth_mall | scanline: what was that website you said you looked up design patterns on? |
18:41.35 | scanline | darth_mall: the c2 wiki. it's usually in the first 5 hits or so if you google for any particular design pattern |
18:41.47 | ChipX86 | the cool thing about hte linux UI team is that there's a good chance I've done what you're using, or at least worked on it |
18:42.25 | scanline | yeah. I don't know why I'm trying ws5 under windows first. I tried to download it before but the web site barfed on my account info. This time I was motivated enough to create a new account and it worked |
18:42.57 | ChipX86 | like, the snapshot manager, icons on tabs, svg stuff, themed favorites list folder icons, a bunch of the VM icons, legacy VM support, clone wizard, team wizard, wizard framework, made the statusbar more pretty, dialogs, movie capture, what else.. |
18:43.24 | scanline | you did the UI for movie capture, or the actual movie recording code? |
18:43.35 | ChipX86 | UI |
18:43.38 | scanline | ah |
18:43.40 | scanline | neat |
18:43.43 | ChipX86 | it was one of my first things here |
18:43.58 | nullpuppy | wow |
18:44.04 | ChipX86 | that and a transitional API to let the old code use the new dialog framework (wrapping C++ in C and keeping the same API is fun!) |
18:44.23 | ChipX86 | and the entire wizard framework we now use |
18:44.37 | ChipX86 | I keep taking on big projects :( |
18:44.42 | nullpuppy | hehe |
18:44.57 | nullpuppy | i need more time to code |
18:45.03 | ChipX86 | WoW :P |
18:45.06 | nullpuppy | well.. mainly.. i just need to code more.. i really have plenty of time... |
18:45.09 | nullpuppy | hehe yeah :) |
18:45.16 | ChipX86 | yep |
18:45.20 | ChipX86 | I've been doing both! |
18:45.29 | nullpuppy | i played like.. 12hrs yesterday.. i should try to not do that too often :) |
18:45.33 | ChipX86 | yeah |
18:46.07 | nullpuppy | hmm.. 2 hrs before i need to be to work.. i should run over to gramma's and hook their printer up real quick so i don't have to worry about it |
18:46.08 | ChipX86 | http://osiris.chipx86.com/galago-chooser-1.png <-- yay, love that |
18:46.14 | ChipX86 | can't wait to work on it more |
18:46.30 | ChipX86 | what's cool is how easy it is to populate those lists |
18:46.31 | nullpuppy | yay, pretty |
18:46.35 | scanline | maybe I'll just keep yoshi a windows-only machine and run everything in vmware :P |
18:46.45 | ChipX86 | it's like, "Give me every service. Now add them. Give me every contact in that service. Add those." |
18:46.55 | ChipX86 | scanline: noooo |
18:47.11 | nullpuppy | i need to break out my c book again and refresh myself on the few things that are fuzzy, and learn glib/gtk/etc |
18:47.18 | scanline | ChipX86: or I'll do the opposite once I have a copy of vmware with kick-ass direct3d support ;) |
18:47.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
18:47.45 | scanline | yoshi really doesn't like booting at all, much less dual-booting |
18:48.10 | nullpuppy | hehe, right now.. wmware does everything i need for windows support :) would be nice if it was a tiny bit faster, but that might just be a matter of getting better performance outta my kernel |
18:48.24 | scanline | faster at what? |
18:49.23 | ChipX86 | I love the pass-through USB |
18:49.25 | nullpuppy | just regular performance.. its already pretty speedy, but i do have occasional couple second.. lags where the vm doesn't respond immediately |
18:49.36 | scanline | ChipX86: indeed. I'm looking forward to tinkering with it :) |
18:49.50 | purple_cow | woobwoobwoob |
18:49.51 | scanline | nullpuppy: well, CPU performance, memory performance, 2D/3D graphics? |
18:50.01 | ChipX86 | 4D graphics is the tricky one |
18:50.10 | scanline | yes |
18:50.21 | ChipX86 | imagine playing a movie in reverse before you even download it. That's the future. |
18:50.23 | scanline | only xscreensaver can really give you high quality 4D output |
18:50.34 | nullpuppy | haven't tried 3d yet (mainly cause WoW wouldn't install there... :)), i think its probably cpu performance, but not positive. i haven't really tracked it down at all |
18:50.52 | ChipX86 | vmware's pretty speedy here |
18:50.53 | nullpuppy | memory appears fine, but that might be the bottleneck as well, not sure |
18:51.07 | ChipX86 | also, these are debug builds |
18:51.07 | nullpuppy | i'm guessing its not vmware, but not sure |
18:51.40 | nullpuppy | hmm, i should go do some dishes... |
18:51.41 | nullpuppy | brb |
18:53.21 | ChipX86 | getting nervous. I hope they sent the flowers. |
18:53.28 | ChipX86 | I should call them. |
18:54.05 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: update todo |
18:54.19 | darth_mall | ChipX86: you sent flowers to Jamie? |
18:54.24 | ChipX86 | yeah |
18:54.27 | darth_mall | yay! |
18:54.31 | ChipX86 | http://www.blossomflorists.com/product/41-2.htm?cart=979a0e2b9f500429089bdd1886b5d457 |
18:54.34 | darth_mall | how come? or is it just cuz? |
18:54.35 | ChipX86 | that |
18:54.40 | ChipX86 | just because |
18:54.47 | darth_mall | yay =D |
18:54.57 | darth_mall | ChipX86: it's so cute =D |
18:55.50 | ChipX86 | hope they send it |
18:56.09 | darth_mall | it's so cool |
18:57.15 | ChipX86 | ooh, singaporean today |
18:57.20 | ChipX86 | mmmmmm |
18:58.18 | kergoth | woke up at 1.. well, thats better than waking up at 3 like i did yesterday. progress! |
18:58.20 | kergoth | heh. |
18:58.26 | ChipX86 | :P |
18:59.09 | scanline | darth_mall: you have a broodwar iso image? mine is on yoshi's other hard disk |
19:00.11 | darth_mall | I do |
19:00.17 | darth_mall | I can scp it to navi if you like |
19:00.37 | scanline | that would be awesome. /navi/media/isos? |
19:00.37 | darth_mall | are you playing SC sometime soon? |
19:00.46 | scanline | lan party sunday |
19:00.49 | ChipX86 | nice |
19:00.55 | ChipX86 | Robot Chicken at our morale meeting tomorrow |
19:00.56 | darth_mall | which disk is the isos dir on? |
19:01.33 | scanline | micah@navi micah $ echo /mnt/navi/*/media/isos |
19:01.33 | scanline | /mnt/navi/07/media/isos |
19:01.59 | ChipX86 | bbl |
19:02.00 | darth_mall | that's a cute trick ^^ |
19:02.34 | scanline | k |
19:03.10 | TD | cbau |
19:04.09 | scanline | even on the games I own legal copies of, it's so much more convenient to just run it off an iso with daemon tools, heh |
19:04.51 | darth_mall | scanline: do you need it now, or can I send it when I'm on the network? |
19:05.00 | darth_mall | it's going to take a while from here |
19:05.06 | scanline | oh, you're on wireless? |
19:05.31 | scanline | oh. yeah, send it later |
19:05.43 | darth_mall | or you can grab my cd again, if you want it |
19:08.25 | darth_mall | hmm... I'm not seeing anything when I open up this .zargo file in argouml |
19:09.34 | darth_mall | wow... it's kinda ugly |
19:10.09 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7723 10fyre/ (TODO doc/uml.zargo src/Dialogs.cs): rearrange some comments a bit, add a note about darth_mall's TODO entry, update the Dialog inheritance diagram |
19:11.08 | darth_mall | oh no! not moving comments! |
19:13.02 | darth_mall | hmm... that's interesting |
19:13.08 | purple_cow | hmm? |
19:13.36 | darth_mall | so... you can't pass file names to argouml on the command line =P |
19:13.45 | darth_mall | or any arguments apparently |
19:16.11 | purple_cow | we should probably scrap the relationship diagram i've drawn there and just do that once it's all done |
19:16.39 | scanline | aww. it won't let me bind alt-F4 to switch virtual desktops |
19:17.25 | purple_cow | hehe |
19:18.18 | scanline | wow. my rex-misc checkout is still going... |
19:21.34 | darth_mall | argouml scares me |
19:35.58 | purple_cow | yes? |
19:36.09 | scanline | hmm. every otber time I reboot, my mouse doesn't work until I tell it to look for new hardware |
19:36.45 | darth_mall | purple_cow: an Element can have more than one output, ya? |
19:36.52 | purple_cow | yes |
19:36.52 | scanline | yes |
19:36.56 | darth_mall | ok |
19:37.26 | darth_mall | where is the # of inputs and outputs and things stored, in Element? |
19:37.40 | purple_cow | yeah, mostly |
19:37.53 | purple_cow | i don't think there's an explicit value for that yet, but there probably should be |
19:38.09 | darth_mall | ok |
19:38.29 | darth_mall | cuz I couldn't find anything in Element or CanvasElement that looked like it was actually storing the number of pads |
19:38.50 | scanline | anyone on our LAN already have a hoary iso? |
19:40.50 | darth_mall | not me |
19:41.32 | purple_cow | i think for the tooltips i just divided the size of the description arrays by two, but that's kind of hacky |
19:42.53 | darth_mall | so we're storing the pads as strings in the Element? |
19:43.09 | purple_cow | right now it has strings for descriptions of the pads |
19:43.26 | purple_cow | should probably abstract that out into a class that has things like type information, etc |
19:43.45 | darth_mall | ok, that's what I was thinking |
19:44.01 | darth_mall | does it need to be a class, or could it be another struct like PadConnection? |
19:44.24 | purple_cow | there's not really a difference :P |
19:44.29 | darth_mall | oh, really? |
19:45.02 | purple_cow | err, it might just be the same as C++ |
19:45.13 | darth_mall | ah |
19:45.14 | darth_mall | cool |
19:45.17 | darth_mall | it's not quite |
19:45.31 | darth_mall | or maybe that is how it works in C++, dunno |
19:45.49 | darth_mall | but it appears that you don't have to use the new operator to get a new struct |
19:45.52 | purple_cow | hmm, so there are some differences, but none of them really matter in this case |
19:46.09 | purple_cow | yeah, structs are value types |
19:46.30 | darth_mall | hehe... I crashed monodoc |
19:47.51 | darth_mall | so I guess being value types means they don't have to have constructors |
19:48.13 | purple_cow | yeah, but they can if you want ;) |
19:48.44 | purple_cow | technically, classes don't need constructors either, iirc |
19:48.56 | darth_mall | really? |
19:49.02 | darth_mall | but not now |
19:49.36 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7724 10fyre/src/Element.cs: Empty classes for Pads. Opinions welcome. |
19:49.40 | darth_mall | Chaos |
20:01.45 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7725 10fyre/src/ (ElementList.cs PipelineEditor.cs): hurray! i'm getting drop events now! |
20:02.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7726 10fyre/src/Element.cs: Fleshing out my idear for pads a bit. |
20:02.24 | darth_mall | yay purple_cow |
20:03.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7727 10fyre/src/Element.cs: silly evan and his weird-ass whitespace conventions |
20:16.28 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (~file@mctn1-6952.nb.aliant.net) |
20:16.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
20:16.57 | purple_cow | is it bad that we're using more of an XP style of development with this fyre thing for a design class? :) |
20:18.42 | scanline | "A repository of KDE's size poses issues that the creators of Subversion would never have thought of," declared KDE release dude Stephan Coolio. |
20:19.00 | scanline | I wonder what those 'issues' are... from what I've seen, the svn people have been very attentive to scalability issues |
20:19.59 | scanline | oh, this was an april 1 article :P |
20:20.25 | scanline | it definitely had me fooled ;) |
20:24.07 | purple_cow | hehe |
20:24.22 | purple_cow | hmm, release dude |
20:26.43 | TD | scanline: sure? they are migrating to svn and that sounds like the sort of thing coolio would say |
20:27.11 | scanline | TD: it was an april 1st article about KDE moving to bitkeeper, abandoning their competing CVS gui project, and such ;) |
20:27.38 | TD | ah |
20:27.43 | TD | heh |
20:27.44 | TD | fooled me too! |
20:38.28 | *** join/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-139-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
20:38.51 | scanline | hi cwisty |
20:41.59 | file[laptop] | so my music midterm wasn't too bad |
20:42.07 | purple_cow | hmm, i wonder if "putting things away and not remembering where they are" could be considered hamartia... |
20:42.14 | purple_cow | if so, both scanline and my dad have got it :) |
20:42.44 | scanline | heh |
20:42.48 | scanline | yeah, it was next to navi |
20:43.29 | purple_cow | hmm, why the fuck did i remember that word? |
20:43.38 | purple_cow | goddamn IB english |
20:44.47 | scanline | cwisty: looks like we have about 150 feet of cat5 left in the spool |
20:44.53 | scanline | if I counted right |
20:45.10 | purple_cow | don't you have multiple switches? |
20:46.07 | scanline | purple_cow: I don't think we need a huge number of long cables, but I'm not sure how this is layed out yet. Feel free to come to the meeting today rather than complaining at me if you have any input |
20:46.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
20:46.26 | purple_cow | is the meeting just for logistics? |
20:46.45 | purple_cow | besides, complaining is one of my favorite activities |
20:46.49 | scanline | well, it's the ACM meeting.. but it's mostly going to be about setting up this lan parties |
20:47.07 | scanline | 6:00 this evening, same room in the ECOT |
20:47.36 | cwisty | thanks scanline |
20:48.05 | scanline | cwisty: I'm not sure how we managed to use 850 feet of cable in our apartment complex... |
20:48.17 | cwisty | haha |
20:48.25 | cwisty | well one 150 footer will be better than nothing |
20:48.31 | cwisty | purple_cow we have a 40 port switch |
20:48.36 | cwisty | so we have to run everyone off of it |
20:48.43 | cwisty | all over the conference room |
20:48.44 | purple_cow | just one? that's kind of silly :P |
20:48.47 | cwisty | which is long and skinny |
20:48.49 | cwisty | eh |
20:49.00 | cwisty | makes networking as easy as long cat 5 |
20:49.21 | ChipX86 | hrm, hope she gets the flowers soon. I should call the company. |
20:49.34 | cwisty | not my switch |
20:49.38 | cwisty | I don't own a switch |
20:49.41 | purple_cow | usually seems easier to me to have a few switches, since short cables are easier to find |
20:49.46 | cwisty | if you do and want to donate it by all means |
20:49.48 | scanline | cwisty: I got windows working on yoshi! it just won't boot unless there's a bootable CD in the machine :) |
20:49.51 | cwisty | we only have one |
20:49.52 | cwisty | that works |
20:50.03 | cwisty | hahaha scanline |
20:50.19 | purple_cow | i thought you guys had all the old CSEL crap ;) |
20:50.41 | cwisty | purple_cow the meeting tonight is about electing new officers and planning LAN and our Halo2 tourney |
20:50.55 | cwisty | we do |
20:51.00 | cwisty | and only one of the switches works |
20:51.17 | purple_cow | bizzare |
20:52.34 | cwisty | we might have one 8 port switch that one of our members has |
20:52.36 | cwisty | which will hep |
20:52.38 | cwisty | help |
20:52.59 | cwisty | but if we don't get people it hardly matters |
20:53.00 | purple_cow | of course, the only thing i've done with the CSEL in the last 2 years is make it unusable |
20:53.16 | scanline | haha.. speaking of... |
20:53.21 | scanline | we should try that interactively |
20:53.45 | purple_cow | yep |
21:01.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7728 10fyre/src/PipelineDrawing.cs: try some more to get these cursors working |
21:05.57 | ChipX86 | hrm |
21:06.08 | ChipX86 | they reversed double-clicking and double-middle-clicking folders in nautilus |
21:06.32 | scanline | double-middle-clicking? |
21:06.41 | ChipX86 | opening a new folder and closing the current window |
21:12.49 | TD | yes |
21:12.55 | TD | huge flamewar on ubuntu-devel about it |
21:13.25 | ChipX86 | it's stupid |
21:13.27 | ChipX86 | and I can't disable it |
21:13.28 | TD | calls for votes etc |
21:13.29 | TD | very messy |
21:13.31 | TD | ChipX86: there is a gconf key |
21:13.34 | ChipX86 | ah |
21:13.37 | ChipX86 | still, stupid |
21:13.37 | TD | but it's incredibly stupid |
21:13.46 | TD | and i think it reflects diseased thinking in distro developers minds |
21:13.57 | TD | the guy who made that change did it days before the release, without any discussion |
21:14.02 | TD | he just decided he was right, and went ahead and did it |
21:14.16 | TD | this is the same guy who told hadess not to make an autopackage because it was so vital that distros be able to "integrate" stuff |
21:14.39 | TD | he seems to believe that they should be able to interpret the linux desktop as they see fit, according to their own personal tastes |
21:17.32 | cwisty | so scanline I'm adding you to this list for LAN, you gonna be on our "needs to be picked up" list? |
21:17.46 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-funclib): Break out of gtkfe download loop on success |
21:18.10 | scanline | cwisty: yes. I've carried this machine to campus before, but I was in Aden at the time... it was hard enough then ;) |
21:18.20 | scanline | er, to the engineering center |
21:18.31 | cwisty | so I take that as a no |
21:18.43 | scanline | er |
21:18.47 | scanline | no, I could use a ride |
21:19.42 | purple_cow | cwisty: i'm planning to stop by the party, but i'm just going to bring my laptop, and i probably won't be there the whole time, so don't allocate table space for me :) |
21:20.03 | cwisty | OK |
21:20.09 | cwisty | done and done |
21:20.22 | cwisty | haha dork |
21:20.40 | pagefault | holy crap |
21:20.41 | pagefault | new ATI drivers |
21:20.42 | pagefault | for linux |
21:20.53 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
21:20.53 | pagefault | wow |
21:20.57 | pagefault | this can't be real |
21:21.10 | cwisty | purple_cow what's your e-mail? |
21:21.59 | purple_cow | trowbrds@cs |
21:22.22 | ChipX86 | I have some fun info for you guys that i just learned today |
21:22.37 | ChipX86 | it's not secret or anything, just not public, because it's ridiculous |
21:22.42 | cwisty | thanks |
21:23.12 | ChipX86 | have any of you wondered where the names GSX and ESX come from, or what they mean? |
21:23.21 | file[laptop] | I did once |
21:23.26 | scanline | yes |
21:23.33 | ChipX86 | they don't stand for anything |
21:23.45 | ChipX86 | back in the dot-com days, VMware hired a company to come up with names for their two new products |
21:24.11 | ChipX86 | the company came up with GroundStorm and ElasticSky |
21:24.17 | scanline | haha |
21:24.19 | ChipX86 | VMware found them stupid |
21:24.28 | file[laptop] | O.o |
21:24.31 | ChipX86 | but kept the GS and ES initials, and appended an X |
21:24.39 | scanline | that's nuts |
21:24.42 | purple_cow | hehe, ElasticSky |
21:24.43 | ChipX86 | :) |
21:25.06 | purple_cow | how much did vmware pay for that? |
21:25.21 | ChipX86 | I asked. Regis said "Don't ask." |
21:25.29 | scanline | wow |
21:25.56 | ChipX86 | why? |
21:26.00 | scanline | hehe |
21:26.04 | cwisty | can't come up with their own product names? |
21:26.17 | cwisty | bet they couldda been better and cost nada in house |
21:26.39 | purple_cow | it's a long standing tradition to outsource that |
21:26.40 | scanline | I'm sure they would have had better results just holding a product name contest among their whole staff |
21:26.51 | ChipX86 | this was the .com days |
21:26.59 | ChipX86 | it was common |
21:27.04 | purple_cow | like how lucent was calling their wireless cards "wavelan" (which was a fantastic name), and then they hired some company to come up with "orinoco" (which is stupid) |
21:27.05 | ChipX86 | we do our own now |
21:27.16 | ChipX86 | but back then, there weren't more thna a few dozen employees |
21:27.55 | ChipX86 | er, wallpaper |
21:28.08 | scanline | you have ws5 wallpapers? |
21:28.13 | ChipX86 | I'm making one! :) |
21:28.17 | scanline | hehe |
21:28.18 | ChipX86 | for fun |
21:28.43 | scanline | yay, the ubuntu hoary rc comes with python 2.4 |
21:28.50 | scanline | silly 2.3-using distros... |
21:29.48 | pagefault | yeah |
21:29.56 | pagefault | wee |
21:29.59 | pagefault | ubuntu is sexy |
21:30.30 | scanline | bleh |
21:30.50 | scanline | I'm sick of messing with EDA tools. I should just wander over to spacegrant and do some design on paper rather than waiting on protel to use up all my RAM |
21:33.12 | TD | ChipX86: hah, that's a great story |
21:33.16 | TD | GroundStorm VM! |
21:33.21 | TD | *crack of lightening* |
21:33.36 | TD | "You'll never get us Magneto!" |
21:33.52 | kergoth | hah |
21:38.38 | scanline | I've been down here for oh so many years |
21:46.38 | ChipX86 | deliver the flowers! |
21:46.40 | ChipX86 | :( |
21:46.49 | ChipX86 | it's only 2:45, I shouldn't worry |
21:47.01 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you make me happy! |
21:47.03 | TD | flowers? |
21:47.04 | ChipX86 | but last time she got them by 12 :( |
21:47.15 | ChipX86 | TD: sent Jamie these: http://www.blossomflorists.com/product/41-2.htm?cart=979a0e2b9f500429089bdd1886b5d457 |
21:47.39 | TD | awwww :) |
21:47.49 | TD | young love |
21:47.52 | TD | ain't it sweet |
21:47.55 | ChipX86 | :P |
21:47.55 | file[laptop] | quite |
21:48.40 | TD | ChipX86: yeah well i'll be the one :p ing you when i meet my dream girl ;) |
21:48.49 | ChipX86 | :) |
21:48.52 | ChipX86 | hope you do soon |
21:49.38 | ChipX86 | I'm doing the screenshots for the WS5 linux release |
21:51.19 | TD | ChipX86: cool |
21:51.29 | TD | ChipX86: expect $X to be winging its way to you soon |
21:51.43 | TD | contacts are weird |
21:51.54 | ChipX86 | ? |
21:51.55 | TD | they seemed fine yesterday but today, for some reason, my vision with them isn't as good |
21:51.58 | TD | maybe me eyes are just tired |
21:52.06 | ChipX86 | $x? |
21:52.14 | TD | ChipX86: for however much a copy of VMware costs |
21:52.18 | ChipX86 | oh |
21:52.50 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7729 10fyre/src/PipelineDrawing.cs: use DarkGC[Prelight] to temporarily give better contrast, don't mask at all |
21:52.56 | ChipX86 | wonder if I can make this WS5 wallpaper public |
21:55.14 | TD | it's a wallpaper |
21:55.16 | TD | of course you can |
21:55.27 | TD | nobody, in the history of the universe, has ever got into trouble for releasing a wallpaper |
21:55.37 | TD | unless it was an actual wallpaper made of money, or something |
21:55.52 | ChipX86 | but this is vmware! It's scary here! They beat you senseless for having an idea! |
21:55.57 | numist | .... |
21:55.58 | file[laptop] | oh no! |
21:55.58 | TD | lol |
21:56.02 | ChipX86 | not really |
21:56.07 | file[laptop] | didn't think so |
21:56.45 | ChipX86 | scanline fell for the new hire fake building that we rent, though. We really work in the back of some grocery store |
21:56.56 | TD | heh |
21:57.03 | ChipX86 | 37 mins for this winxp install. brb, kitchen |
21:58.40 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: what's that thing you use on your Windows PVR again |
21:59.57 | ChipX86 | the M&Ms drawer has nestle crunch bars now |
22:00.02 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: MediaPortal.sf.net |
22:03.36 | file[laptop] | thx |
22:03.58 | ChipX86 | feel like sleeping while this installs |
22:04.02 | ChipX86 | we need to buy our couch |
22:06.39 | cwisty | spacegrant needs a couch . . . |
22:07.01 | ChipX86 | heh |
22:07.05 | ChipX86 | well we have couches, I just mean for my office |
22:07.16 | ChipX86 | lucky bastard |
22:07.43 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (~pagefault@HSE-Montreal-ppp135080.qc.sympatico.ca) |
22:08.33 | lurgy | omygosh it's cwisty |
22:08.43 | file[laptop] | yay lurgy |
22:08.44 | cwisty | lurgy! |
22:08.45 | file[laptop] | hi pagefault |
22:08.51 | pagefault | hello file |
22:08.53 | pagefault | what is up |
22:08.56 | pagefault | wee |
22:09.01 | pagefault | hmm |
22:09.01 | file[laptop] | nada, u? |
22:09.03 | pagefault | silly drivers |
22:09.11 | pagefault | trying to get latest drivers installed and working |
22:09.18 | file[laptop] | thwap them |
22:09.41 | TD | oooh |
22:09.45 | TD | another new game using autopackage. neta |
22:09.46 | TD | neat |
22:09.51 | ChipX86 | which? |
22:09.54 | TD | seems it's really taking off in the open source gaming community |
22:10.00 | ChipX86 | I can see that |
22:10.05 | ChipX86 | it's a good target |
22:10.12 | TD | well, we already have supertux, netpanzer, openttd (transport tycoon clone), crack attack and lincity |
22:10.12 | pagefault | well at least 2d is like 2x faster in these new drivers |
22:10.17 | TD | and soon http://scourge.sourceforge.net/main.html |
22:10.31 | TD | it's not available for download yet but he seems to have already made the package ... |
22:10.31 | ChipX86 | uh oh, my chocolate's melting on my instruction sheet |
22:10.46 | pagefault | these drivers bring my whole system down |
22:11.16 | pagefault | invalid opcode |
22:11.35 | cwisty | HOT! |
22:11.38 | cwisty | hot potato |
22:12.47 | ChipX86 | ooh |
22:12.52 | ChipX86 | I should try longhonr |
22:12.55 | ChipX86 | longhorn |
22:13.26 | file[laptop] | resist! |
22:13.59 | lurgy | hehe |
22:13.59 | lurgy | mm |
22:14.00 | ChipX86 | I hear it sucks in a VM |
22:14.03 | lurgy | hot potatoes are the best kind |
22:14.15 | ChipX86 | but that was back when we had no 3D acceleration |
22:14.17 | ChipX86 | so maybe it's better now |
22:14.29 | cwisty | thanks lurgy |
22:15.04 | ChipX86 | ok, going to call the florist |
22:15.38 | ChipX86 | I'm sure they delivered it |
22:15.38 | scanline | yay, potato |
22:15.44 | ChipX86 | hope they did. hrm. |
22:16.00 | lurgy | hmm |
22:16.03 | ChipX86 | the receipt said today. They've been in business in Chico for 30 years.. |
22:16.09 | pagefault | ://////////// |
22:16.11 | ChipX86 | yeah it's probably fine. |
22:16.14 | pagefault | they reboot my system' |
22:16.14 | ChipX86 | I should call them |
22:16.15 | lurgy | scanline: how do permissions work in this new squashfs thing? |
22:16.29 | ChipX86 | pagefault: ? |
22:16.34 | pagefault | new ati drivers |
22:16.43 | scanline | lurgy: it doesn't do writes yet, you have to write to the individual disks still |
22:16.43 | ChipX86 | ack |
22:16.48 | lurgy | scanline: i know |
22:16.56 | pagefault | not sure why |
22:17.00 | ChipX86 | crap!! |
22:17.01 | lurgy | scanline: i need permission in the individual disks |
22:17.03 | lurgy | yay |
22:17.03 | ChipX86 | I gave the wrong city |
22:17.10 | ChipX86 | still, it says Butte College. They must know. |
22:17.14 | ChipX86 | I'm an idiot. |
22:17.30 | ChipX86 | argh |
22:17.34 | kergoth | ~fishslap ChipX86 |
22:17.36 | jbot | ACTION slaps ChipX86 up side the head with a wet fish. |
22:17.46 | ChipX86 | I said Chico |
22:17.50 | ChipX86 | Butte College is *technically* in Oroville |
22:18.07 | scanline | lurgy: try now |
22:18.33 | lurgy | still no |
22:19.08 | lurgy | at least not in /navi/01/media/audio/composers/Stevens_Halsey |
22:19.26 | scanline | you mean /mnt/navi? |
22:19.37 | lurgy | er |
22:19.38 | lurgy | yes |
22:19.51 | lurgy | oops O:-) |
22:19.55 | scanline | oh, these have sticky bits |
22:20.18 | scanline | how about now? |
22:20.43 | lurgy | sweet |
22:20.44 | lurgy | thanks scanline :) |
22:20.49 | lurgy | all good now |
22:21.13 | scanline | np |
22:23.27 | purple_cow | @(*#&%(*&(*~&%#! |
22:23.28 | kbot | purple_cow: Error: "(*#&%(*&(*~&%#!" is not a valid command. |
22:23.37 | purple_cow | WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY USE A COOKED DATA TYPE TO REPRESENT BINARY DATA?!?!?!?! |
22:24.31 | ChipX86 | meh, been on hold for 6 mins with no person answering |
22:24.48 | purple_cow | maybe today's a floral holiday |
22:25.19 | ChipX86 | :/ |
22:27.44 | pagefault | hmm |
22:27.48 | pagefault | ubuntu RC is out |
22:28.05 | TD | i can't believe they shipped an RC with that sucky spatial nautilus change in |
22:29.00 | pagefault | a what now? |
22:29.06 | ChipX86 | yeah, I'm pissed about that |
22:31.16 | pagefault | using the browser? |
22:31.20 | TD | no |
22:31.25 | TD | they hacked spatial mode to automatically close the last window |
22:31.39 | pagefault | oh |
22:31.40 | TD | so there's no obvious way unless you think to middle-double-click (!!) to copy files between folders |
22:31.53 | pagefault | I use browser view mode |
22:31.55 | pagefault | so I wouldn't know |
22:32.07 | scanline | I hate mathcad |
22:32.45 | lurgy | mathcad is the only sick math language they haven't made me use yet ;) |
22:33.21 | purple_cow | mathematica, matlab, mathcad, spss... |
22:33.32 | purple_cow | bleh |
22:33.42 | lurgy | yeah |
22:33.45 | scanline | cwisty and darth_mall understand this particular mathcad pain ;) |
22:33.50 | lurgy | hmm, i guess i haven't had to do spss yet |
22:33.52 | lurgy | whew |
22:33.52 | scanline | purple_cow: did they make you take 1140 too? |
22:33.54 | lurgy | but dammit |
22:33.58 | cwisty | mathcad pain? |
22:33.59 | lurgy | IDL makes me nauseous |
22:34.07 | purple_cow | scanline: yeah. i had credit for the lectures but not the lab |
22:34.11 | scanline | cwisty: I'm doing a lab writeup |
22:34.12 | cwisty | what lab you doing? |
22:34.19 | cwisty | I need to do 2 more |
22:34.20 | cwisty | ug |
22:34.21 | scanline | 04, the laser diffraction lab |
22:34.26 | cwisty | damnit |
22:34.27 | scanline | I should do a mechanical lab next |
22:34.32 | cwisty | I turned in a prelab for O3 today |
22:34.36 | cwisty | gonna do O5 too |
22:34.46 | scanline | I should do O5 at some point, that one looked fun |
22:34.53 | darth_mall | ewww... mathcad |
22:35.12 | darth_mall | spss? |
22:35.20 | scanline | or I could be lazy and do another electrical lab ;) |
22:35.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: statistical analysis package |
22:35.33 | darth_mall | sounds like something I'd hate |
22:35.40 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03maccarro * r1135 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): misc updates to the adcs rotation rate algorithms |
22:36.00 | cwisty | without arcseconds though I can't do angular separation |
22:36.04 | cwisty | cause I'm a tard |
22:37.09 | lurgy | :( |
22:38.40 | cwisty | and I like to make things more complicated than they are |
22:38.55 | cwisty | haha |
22:38.58 | cwisty | nice |
22:39.05 | lurgy | is there anything they can't do? |
22:39.34 | lurgy | not to be confused with an arcwelder |
22:40.20 | CIA-5 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/TODO: update todo |
22:40.35 | scanline | well, I want one of those too |
22:40.49 | lurgy | hehe |
22:40.54 | lurgy | i bet they could be combined into one |
22:42.26 | lurgy | yay for the gillinghham bass trombone sonata |
22:42.27 | scanline | ooh |
22:42.53 | lurgy | a 2nd-rate composition in a sea of 3rd-rate compositions |
22:44.47 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
22:44.49 | ChipX86 | called |
22:44.56 | ChipX86 | "Oh my gosh. Hang on one second. *on hold*" |
22:45.43 | *** join/#tacobeam Samy (~samy@212.76.83.182) |
22:45.51 | lurgy | ChipX86: you mean, 4'33"? |
22:46.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: uhhuh |
22:46.40 | darth_mall | yay |
22:46.44 | darth_mall | couple questions |
22:46.58 | darth_mall | 1) connections between pads are 1 way, right? |
22:47.58 | purple_cow | that's the plan |
22:48.30 | darth_mall | so we only need to maintain info about what pad(s) a pad is connected to, not what pad(s) are connected to it |
22:49.19 | ChipX86 | they fucked it up |
22:49.55 | ChipX86 | not happy |
22:51.14 | pagefault | ugh |
22:51.15 | darth_mall | I hope that the give you some kind of compensation |
22:51.20 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i think that'll work for now |
22:51.23 | darth_mall | (this is about the flowers, right?) |
22:51.23 | ChipX86 | they're refunding the delivery fee |
22:51.24 | pagefault | I think this driver was compiled for SSE2 computers |
22:51.28 | ChipX86 | but they said they have to deliver it at home |
22:51.32 | purple_cow | if we need to go the other direction for some reason (maybe during compilation) we can change it |
22:51.33 | pagefault | damn |
22:51.38 | ChipX86 | which is bad, because nobody will be home until night |
22:51.38 | pagefault | I knew it was too good to be true |
22:52.13 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ok, next question: inputs don't have any outgoing connections to other pads, do they? that should only be output pads, right? |
22:52.35 | TD | ChipX86: you ever played transport tycoon? |
22:52.39 | ChipX86 | nope |
22:52.45 | TD | oh man |
22:52.46 | TD | it is the best game ever |
22:52.47 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's why they're called inputs :P |
22:53.00 | ChipX86 | TD: WoW |
22:53.09 | TD | imagine a cross between sim city, theme park, civ III and other stuff |
22:53.11 | darth_mall | purple_cow: heh... just making sure ;) |
22:53.17 | TD | actually that's a rubbish explanation |
22:53.27 | TD | ChipX86: yeah yeah, WoW is a mere wannabe compared to the glory of TT |
22:53.29 | TD | look at it this way |
22:53.42 | TD | is WoW so great that a team of open source hackers made a pixel perfect clone of it ? |
22:53.45 | TD | no |
22:53.46 | TD | i rest my case |
22:53.49 | darth_mall | or maybe! |
22:53.55 | ChipX86 | fucking.. grrr.. I'm getting in such a bad mood right now. Everything's crashing, flowers aren't delivered.. |
22:54.08 | purple_cow | goddamnit. my xchat-gnome must be acting up |
22:54.25 | purple_cow | i haven't been able to get a response from *anyone* in either #mono or #blendercoders for a week |
22:54.36 | TD | http://www.familie-kirchhofer.de/openttd/autopackage/ |
22:58.01 | scanline | why is undo in mathcad so flaky? |
22:58.02 | darth_mall | TD: what's that? |
22:58.31 | TD | transport tycoon dude |
22:58.32 | scanline | I mean, maybe I'm asking too much when I assume that clicking 'undo' would actaully, you know, undo a change |
22:58.35 | TD | best. game. ever. |
22:59.16 | darth_mall | scanline: yeah... that's asking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much |
22:59.18 | ChipX86 | bah, now I can't even reach the person I talked to 5 mins ago |
22:59.36 | ChipX86 | the same phone number goes to a few different places |
22:59.41 | darth_mall | scanline: next you're going to be expecting that your document persist after you quit just because you clicked 'save' |
23:00.50 | scanline | darth_mall: yeah |
23:02.00 | darth_mall | well that's just plain silly |
23:02.19 | cwisty | brb |
23:02.21 | *** part/#tacobeam cwisty (~default@ec237-139-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
23:05.56 | ChipX86 | feh. this company lost my business. |
23:06.07 | ChipX86 | I'll get a refund tomorrow. For now, I'm ordering new flowers. |
23:07.31 | ChipX86 | can't exactly do it myself |
23:07.38 | ChipX86 | you may not understand, but the girls do |
23:08.05 | ChipX86 | which is why we do it |
23:08.33 | scanline | oh, I understand that they like flower arrangements and such.. it just seems very minimally personal |
23:08.42 | darth_mall | I would love it if some hot girl sent me flowers for no reason ^^ |
23:09.13 | ChipX86 | it's the thought and the ordering and sending something beautiful for the girl. Putting it together is not too important. It's like taking a girl to a nice restaurant. You don't cook the food and prepare the drinks |
23:09.51 | scanline | that's a good analogy. They're both enjoyable I'm sure, but I'd have a lot more fun cooking for a girl than taking them to a restaurant |
23:10.16 | darth_mall | scanline: yeah, but you can't spend an hour cooking on the spur of the moment in the middle of the day when you're at work ;) |
23:10.56 | scanline | or can you! |
23:11.09 | ChipX86 | I can't :/ |
23:11.11 | darth_mall | well... if I could find a job where I could, I'd be so extremely happy |
23:11.13 | scanline | ChipX86: you need to bring a wok to vmware |
23:11.24 | darth_mall | I think it has something to do with the circumstances |
23:11.55 | darth_mall | if it was a weekend, and her birthday, and ChipX86 was around, and all he could be bothered to do was send some flowers, it would be pretty crappy |
23:12.15 | scanline | true |
23:12.29 | darth_mall | but if there's nothing special, then there's no expectation, and even something as uninvolved as paying someone to arrange some flowers and deliver them is great |
23:12.45 | scanline | I guess that makes sense |
23:12.55 | darth_mall | kind of like getting a call in the middle of the day from someone just because they were thinking of you |
23:13.08 | ChipX86 | that's such a good feeling |
23:13.11 | darth_mall | ^^ |
23:13.13 | ChipX86 | wish I could call Jamie at work |
23:13.20 | darth_mall | I'll call her for you! |
23:13.26 | darth_mall | then you can type messages here and I'll relay them! |
23:13.32 | ChipX86 | she's getting DSL in a few days :) I asked her what the first thing she's going to do will be. She said, "Message you." |
23:13.43 | darth_mall | lol |
23:13.50 | darth_mall | ChipX86 is a lucky fellow ^^ |
23:14.41 | darth_mall | hehehe... cwisty is explaining to this guy what's wrong with his balloon sat |
23:14.44 | darth_mall | it's pretty funny |
23:15.37 | scanline | hehe |
23:15.40 | scanline | wish I was there |
23:15.57 | scanline | I wasn't expecting to come to the physics lab.. realized on my way to campus that I forgot to do this lab that was due yesterday |
23:17.16 | scanline | what sort of balloon sat is this one? |
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23:19.47 | ChipX86 | the ClearLooks progress bars rock |
23:20.02 | darth_mall | scanline: dunno |
23:20.15 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =D |
23:23.53 | ChipX86 | http://www.ftd.com/522/catalog/product.epl?product_id=BH |
23:24.53 | scanline | yay, done just in time for them to kick me out of the lab |
23:26.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r7730 10fyre/src/Element.cs: Set up some properties in the Pad class. |
23:35.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7731 10fyre/ (7 files in 2 dirs): work around bad API by including our cursor bitmaps as PNGs, loading them as Gdk.Pixbufs, rendering the alpha channels to Gdk.Pixmaps and then creating our Gdk.Cursors. BLAH |
23:35.24 | pagefault | I am under the impression these ati drivers are not compatible with athlon xp's |
23:41.58 | cwisty | anyone got one of those CU student cupon books laying around, the black one? |
23:47.57 | purple_cow | yay for finally having a cursor that matches the drag behavior |
23:49.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r7732 10fyre/src/ElementList.cs: get rid of debug output, add a FIXME |
23:55.24 | lurgy | hmm |
23:55.49 | lurgy | it's a shame muine doesn't seem to work to well for classical stuff.. |