| 00:02.36 | nullpuppy | No package 'gnome-sharp' found |
| 00:02.37 | nullpuppy | ... |
| 00:02.53 | ChipX86 | ubuntu? |
| 00:03.00 | nullpuppy | gentoo |
| 00:03.02 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 00:03.05 | ChipX86 | maybe it's not called that |
| 00:03.09 | ChipX86 | oh, it's not |
| 00:03.10 | ChipX86 | gtk-sharp |
| 00:03.14 | ChipX86 | it encompasses all that |
| 00:03.15 | nullpuppy | they're seperate |
| 00:03.18 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 00:05.16 | purple_cow | found a bug! |
| 00:05.26 | ChipX86 | yay, what bug? |
| 00:05.49 | ChipX86 | I will only accept bug reports in the form of a question |
| 00:06.35 | purple_cow | in the third level of NW00, is the box 2 from the top, 3 from the left supposed to be empty or have a line in it? cuz it's both |
| 00:07.05 | ChipX86 | huh, can you screenshot? |
| 00:07.23 | purple_cow | no! |
| 00:07.24 | purple_cow | or yes |
| 00:07.26 | purple_cow | hang on |
| 00:07.46 | ChipX86 | squee! |
| 00:09.11 | ChipX86 | yay Nightwish - Eramaajarvi |
| 00:09.24 | kergoth | thats a mouthful |
| 00:09.33 | ChipX86 | awesome sound to it |
| 00:09.59 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/bug.png |
| 00:10.08 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 00:10.14 | ChipX86 | I bet I know |
| 00:10.36 | ChipX86 | if you start on that level by specifying the numbe ron the command line, it won't be there.. something's not being cleared right |
| 00:11.12 | ChipX86 | ok I'll fix that when I get home |
| 00:12.22 | ChipX86 | so for now, just run it with the level index :) |
| 00:12.28 | ChipX86 | (it's a pain :/) |
| 00:16.04 | purple_cow | damn you ChipX86 |
| 00:16.41 | ChipX86 | ? :( |
| 00:17.08 | purple_cow | now i've got yet another distraction |
| 00:18.10 | CIA-9 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r63 10tickypip-gtk/ (ChangeLog src/Board.cs): Silly purple_cow and his distractions. I fixed your bug! Mwhahaa. |
| 00:20.13 | ChipX86 | isn't it a fun game? |
| 00:20.45 | purple_cow | very :) |
| 00:21.08 | nullpuppy | hmm, it needs to scale too when you make the screen bigger :) |
| 00:21.11 | nullpuppy | at least a little bit |
| 00:21.13 | ChipX86 | numist: it will |
| 00:21.19 | purple_cow | oop! |
| 00:21.20 | ChipX86 | I haven't written that yet |
| 00:21.21 | purple_cow | same problem again |
| 00:21.23 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 00:21.24 | ChipX86 | no! |
| 00:21.25 | purple_cow | in a different spot |
| 00:21.27 | ChipX86 | it was fixed here :( |
| 00:21.29 | ChipX86 | where? |
| 00:22.58 | purple_cow | a few levels in, 1 spot from top right |
| 00:22.59 | numist | ping? |
| 00:23.10 | numist | bad ChipX86's tabcomplete.. bad! |
| 00:23.16 | ChipX86 | stop breaking my software :( |
| 00:23.27 | purple_cow | there's a terminal block with a drop-shadow |
| 00:23.32 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 00:23.46 | purple_cow | oh, and two to the left of that, same problem |
| 00:23.49 | nullpuppy | hmm, i'm not seeing it |
| 00:24.15 | ChipX86 | odd |
| 00:24.19 | ChipX86 | numist: going to, yeah |
| 00:24.22 | ChipX86 | when I get home I'll do a lot of that |
| 00:24.23 | purple_cow | yeah, level # would help |
| 00:25.24 | numist | ... |
| 00:25.33 | ChipX86 | numist: ? |
| 00:25.46 | numist | ChipX86: your tabcomplete is being naughty |
| 00:25.56 | ChipX86 | numist: tada! |
| 00:26.01 | numist | :P |
| 00:26.16 | purple_cow | ChipX86 is naughty |
| 00:26.22 | purple_cow | making a fun game that's all buggy |
| 00:26.28 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 00:26.30 | numist | hehe |
| 00:27.45 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:27.49 | darth_mall | lurgy: you're at work? |
| 00:27.56 | nullpuppy | awww |
| 00:27.57 | nullpuppy | it crashed |
| 00:28.11 | ChipX86 | nooo |
| 00:28.12 | ChipX86 | stacktrace? |
| 00:28.20 | nullpuppy | sure, want some spam? |
| 00:28.25 | darth_mall | yay spam! |
| 00:28.26 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 00:28.31 | nullpuppy | Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object |
| 00:28.34 | nullpuppy | in <0x00000> <unknown method> |
| 00:28.36 | nullpuppy | in (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application:gtk_main () |
| 00:28.39 | nullpuppy | in <0x00008> Gtk.Application:Run () |
| 00:28.41 | nullpuppy | in <0x00150> Tickypip.App:Main (System.String[] args) |
| 00:28.44 | nullpuppy | there ya go :) |
| 00:28.48 | ChipX86 | useful.... |
| 00:28.52 | numist | thats not very helpful |
| 00:28.52 | darth_mall | sweet! |
| 00:28.59 | nullpuppy | that was after the first big level in 00 |
| 00:29.07 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: stop crashing my software |
| 00:29.19 | nullpuppy | sowwy |
| 00:29.21 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 00:29.32 | darth_mall | bad nullpuppy, go to the corner and think about what you've done |
| 00:29.38 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 00:31.05 | lurgy | darth_mall: yeah, at work |
| 00:31.12 | darth_mall | lurgy: I see... |
| 00:31.43 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1416 10mck/ (5 files in 4 dirs): nobody will take our project seriously until we have an about box |
| 00:31.48 | darth_mall | egads! |
| 00:31.50 | darth_mall | a commit! |
| 00:31.54 | lurgy | egads |
| 00:31.55 | darth_mall | lurgy: stop it! |
| 00:32.05 | lurgy | that makes 3 or 4 today |
| 00:32.06 | lurgy | yay |
| 00:32.25 | darth_mall | lurgy: stop being productive |
| 00:32.36 | laodamas | damn this lightening |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1417 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Modules/Slippery.py: also those debug messages were getting useless and annoying |
| 00:33.04 | darth_mall | take that! you crazy cyclist! |
| 00:35.03 | darth_mall | lurgy: remember, you can't spell "relaxo" without "relax" |
| 00:37.56 | laodamas | pither, as in brotherhood |
| 00:37.58 | laodamas | except with a p-i instead of the b-r-o and no hood |
| 00:38.40 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1418 10mck/data/ground.glade: and what's the deal with the about icon. in other news, this ground software needs a cool icon. anyone have pictures of exploding satellites handy? |
| 00:42.00 | laodamas | *fBlOaOsMh* |
| 00:42.00 | darth_mall | hehe... Maggie is so cute |
| 00:44.06 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1419 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: and now the software has a catch phrase, because i decree it to be so |
| 00:47.12 | laodamas | ecrives-vous cotre nom dans mon livre des mommes celebres, s'il vous plait |
| 00:47.46 | darth_mall | cotre? |
| 00:47.56 | darth_mall | mommes? |
| 00:51.05 | laodamas | Ecrivez vous votre nom dans mon livre des celebrites. S'il vous plait. |
| 01:10.15 | darth_mall | Dear baby, Welcome to Dumpville, population: you. |
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| 01:35.56 | purple_cow | wow |
| 01:36.00 | purple_cow | some of these later levels are really hard |
| 01:37.30 | lurgy | yay all home and stuff |
| 01:39.01 | lurgy | darth_mall: yay relaxo |
| 01:48.51 | nullpuppy | hrm, crashed after 2 or 3 levels :/ /me can't remember... |
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| 02:20.27 | ChipX86 | back home |
| 02:21.16 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: I can't reproduce the bugs :( |
| 02:23.35 | ChipX86 | Butterfly Effect is on. Why am I watching this.. |
| 02:45.56 | ChipX86 | wow, the ending for the non-directors cut is weak |
| 02:50.08 | *** topic/#tacobeam by laodamas -> Show us the killing skills that have made you a media darling! || What do you keep your hard boiled eggs in? |
| 02:55.34 | lurgy | i'm not the one who put butter in your coffee |
| 02:59.13 | kergoth | ChipX86: heh, 8 members of our guild online tonight :) |
| 02:59.17 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 02:59.20 | ChipX86 | going to play soon |
| 03:00.02 | kergoth | ChipX86: they're telling us all to go to SW, i think someone is doing onyxia |
| 03:00.06 | kergoth | :0 |
| 03:00.08 | kergoth | er :) |
| 03:00.09 | ChipX86 | doing what? |
| 03:00.47 | kergoth | that one series with the dragons |
| 03:00.56 | CIA-9 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r64 10tickypip-gtk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Rename the *Level classes to *LevelLoader. |
| 03:00.59 | ChipX86 | I imagine I'm not high level enough |
| 03:01.04 | kergoth | just guessing, they arent saying what it is, just that we should all be there to see the events |
| 03:02.28 | kergoth | haha |
| 03:02.34 | ChipX86 | finally using netflix again, after several months of not touching it :) |
| 03:02.39 | kergoth | cool |
| 03:02.40 | ChipX86 | nice waste of money |
| 03:22.03 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 03:22.12 | purple_cow | they're working on moving mail out of the gui for evo :D |
| 03:25.46 | purple_cow | yay, fembot's all set up again, with a video card capapble of driving the TV at the right overscan, and on an unswitched outlet :) |
| 03:27.56 | lurgy | yay |
| 03:40.52 | purple_cow | hah, awesome |
| 03:40.54 | purple_cow | http://www.liviodemarchi.com/casauk.htm |
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| 04:50.06 | purple_cow | temperatures BEYOND IMAGINATION! |
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| 05:10.10 | ChipX86 | kergoth: where'd you go? |
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| 05:39.30 | purple_cow | yay! found another bug! |
| 05:39.32 | purple_cow | this one's bizzare |
| 05:40.32 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/bug.png |
| 05:42.08 | ChipX86 | where's the bug? |
| 05:42.33 | purple_cow | all the stuff along the top isn't connected |
| 05:42.45 | ChipX86 | huh. |
| 05:43.00 | ChipX86 | I think there's some issues in my connector active stuffs |
| 05:43.03 | ChipX86 | I'll have to look at it |
| 05:43.25 | laodamas | In the nibbles of the m68k, 4e71 4e71 a9f4, amen |
| 05:55.23 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 05:55.24 | purple_cow | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/somerset/4077698.stm |
| 06:02.00 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:12.59 | purple_cow | something wrong with laser printers? |
| 06:15.46 | laodamas | http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2004/11/27/quiet_encoding_how_your_laser.htm |
| 06:17.31 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 06:17.36 | ChipX86 | there is a tentacon, and it's in colorado! |
| 06:17.38 | ChipX86 | ;) |
| 06:28.46 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 06:40.21 | laodamas | The quantum mechanics jokes being made in response to the resignation of the quark CEO on slashdot are quite amusing |
| 06:41.01 | laodamas | "his spin was kind of odd, so he's found himself excluded...During those turbulent times, there were the rumors of him being dragged into joining the Free Mesons. His state decayed rapidly from there." |
| 06:44.39 | purple_cow | ow |
| 07:51.00 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 07:51.02 | purple_cow | http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/files/evince-mail.png |
| 07:57.48 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8430 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: pop up the username context menu in the xtext gui, so i can close the bug report. of course, none of these are actually *implemented* yet, so it's not really useful at all |
| 08:01.17 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8431 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: add some comments for myself for the other context menus |
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| 14:27.13 | Cae | http://playgressive.com/pivot/entry.php?id=210 |
| 14:27.41 | Cae | hehe |
| 14:30.22 | Cae | okay, the name of this game is..Cae needs a new desktop |
| 14:30.34 | Cae | so. good motherboards. asus.. |
| 14:31.43 | Cae | hm. |
| 14:31.55 | Cae | intel or amd? |
| 14:35.10 | Cae | and if amd..xp or 64? |
| 15:11.12 | pagefault_ | 64 if you can afford it |
| 15:12.24 | pagefault_ | a 64 will be cooler and a lot quieter than an xp |
| 15:13.38 | lurgy | gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 15:14.46 | Cae | hm. wouldn't mind going ddr2, but the motherboards that have it don't tend to meet the rest of my requirements.. |
| 15:16.30 | darth_mall | uhoh... looks like lurgy was up early again |
| 15:18.27 | Cae | but I likes intel.. |
| 15:18.30 | darth_mall | hmmm... Reel Big Fish is playing denver |
| 15:18.35 | Cae | but amd is cheaper.. |
| 15:18.37 | Cae | hrrm |
| 15:18.38 | darth_mall | Cae: you need an AMD64 |
| 15:18.46 | Cae | why? |
| 15:19.08 | darth_mall | why not? |
| 15:19.09 | Cae | this is going to be a windows box, btw. |
| 15:19.11 | darth_mall | that's why I got one ^^ |
| 15:19.16 | darth_mall | because why not |
| 15:19.20 | Cae | I'm sick of dual-booting. |
| 15:19.27 | darth_mall | heh |
| 15:19.45 | darth_mall | and it make grub cranky |
| 15:19.51 | Cae | and I need a new graphics card for games, which linux doesn't much care about, so it'll stay on the older box |
| 15:19.59 | darth_mall | so I have to use the BIOS boot menu to select which harddrive to boot from ^^ |
| 15:20.05 | Cae | yeah, I do that too. |
| 15:21.12 | Cae | yes, going sata. |
| 15:21.41 | Cae | what's this stuff about pci 16 vs agp8x? |
| 15:21.51 | darth_mall | pcix is faster |
| 15:21.53 | Cae | I don't pay attention to hardware unless I'm buying. |
| 15:22.02 | darth_mall | and a good deal more expensive |
| 15:22.02 | Cae | why? |
| 15:22.16 | pagefault_ | I wouldn't bother getting an AGP mobo unless you have a current AGP card you want to use |
| 15:22.21 | pagefault_ | most new video cards will be PCIx only |
| 15:22.48 | Cae | hum. |
| 15:23.02 | darth_mall | I haven't had need of anything better than my geforce2 in a long time |
| 15:23.09 | darth_mall | in fact, ever |
| 15:23.23 | pagefault_ | well if you never play any games then that would be fine |
| 15:23.31 | Cae | wow! |
| 15:23.38 | darth_mall | I play WoW, SC, and the Thief games |
| 15:23.44 | pagefault_ | wow works on a geforce 2? |
| 15:23.44 | darth_mall | and they all run fine on my geforce2 |
| 15:23.53 | darth_mall | WoW works fine as long as I don't use cedega |
| 15:24.03 | Cae | I'm actually fine with a geforce4 mx 420, but I want to upgrade it anyway |
| 15:24.09 | pagefault_ | but you can't see all the pretty effects |
| 15:24.22 | Cae | how good/bad is windows support for amd64? |
| 15:24.23 | darth_mall | I don't play video games to ogle the graphics |
| 15:24.33 | darth_mall | Cae: I think it just runs in 32-bit mode |
| 15:24.48 | pagefault_ | you can get windows xp 64-bit |
| 15:24.50 | darth_mall | so if you're only running windows, it's probably not worth getting an 64-bit processor |
| 15:24.50 | Cae | so..there would be no point in going 64 over xp? |
| 15:24.56 | pagefault_ | I have no idea if it really makes any difference though |
| 15:25.01 | pagefault_ | but you can run the normal xp pro on it fine |
| 15:25.34 | pagefault_ | just having the updated 32-bit core in the 64 is worth it |
| 15:25.36 | darth_mall | I have noticed a slight speed increase in linux from when I was running this cpu in 32-bit mode vs. 64-bit mode |
| 15:25.49 | darth_mall | but I think it's a pretty small difference, at least to me |
| 15:26.05 | darth_mall | and it could be entirely imagined |
| 15:26.21 | Cae | well, then why not just go intel? |
| 15:26.30 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r303 10bridge/src/ (g2bridge.cpp main.cpp): Been meaning to rename this for a while. |
| 15:26.35 | pagefault_ | intel is poop except for the pentium m |
| 15:26.47 | Cae | I like my P4 |
| 15:26.53 | darth_mall | Cae: it was a better deal for me to get the shuttle for an AMD64 than a P4 |
| 15:27.19 | darth_mall | I was pretty much debating between a P4 with PCIx or an AMD64 with AGP |
| 15:27.24 | pagefault_ | if you want more bang for the buck then AMD is the way to go |
| 15:27.35 | darth_mall | and I decided that I would get better use out of a 64-bit processor than a fancy video card |
| 15:28.37 | darth_mall | plus, I wanted to be able to use my old video card until such time as I decide I can afford a new card ^^ |
| 15:30.17 | darth_mall | bleh... everyone here is about wetting themselves over the Sec. of Energy's visit on Monday |
| 15:31.33 | Cae | this box is going to be used for..1) games, mostly WoW 2) photoshop, because the gimp still sucks in comparison and we all know it 3) the random crap I have to do every once in a while that has to be in IE, and only IE 4) .net will probably go on it for any C# stuff I have to do in the future for class, since that's what the prof and the labs use to compile and test the code. |
| 15:31.53 | darth_mall | Cae: how dare you speak ill of open source software! ;) |
| 15:32.18 | Cae | I pretty much never go bleeding edge or even cutting edge with hardware because I don't care. I don't need an excellent video card, but I do need a really good one. |
| 15:32.24 | darth_mall | obviously gimp is superior to photoshop *because* it's open source! |
| 15:32.27 | Cae | :P you know it's true |
| 15:32.38 | darth_mall | actually, I've never really used photoshop, so I don't know |
| 15:32.40 | darth_mall | but I can believe it |
| 15:32.56 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: you do know that you can get pci-e with amd64 now too right? |
| 15:33.07 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: not in the shuttle I bought |
| 15:33.22 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 15:33.23 | Cae | okay, someone explain to me everything that changed in the last few years with pci? |
| 15:33.30 | darth_mall | I was buying a shuttle |
| 15:33.32 | Cae | I really wasn't paying attention |
| 15:33.33 | darth_mall | they come with motherboards |
| 15:33.52 | pagefault_ | I have a shuttle I like it |
| 15:33.54 | Cae | heh |
| 15:34.14 | nullpuppy | basically pci sucks, and pci-e is the desktop replacement, offers craploads more bandwidth and is mucho mucho better |
| 15:34.17 | pagefault_ | everything you need in a nice little box |
| 15:34.28 | Cae | is it backwards compatible? |
| 15:34.36 | darth_mall | don't think so |
| 15:34.48 | nullpuppy | slots aren't, no, but most boards come with both pci and pci-e slots now |
| 15:34.54 | darth_mall | I usually see PCIx and PCI on the same mobo |
| 15:35.10 | nullpuppy | PCIx is different and is backwards compatible |
| 15:35.23 | nullpuppy | iirc apple was using it, and a lot of the server boards use it as well |
| 15:35.32 | Cae | do I honestly care whether I have ddr or ddr2 ram? |
| 15:35.46 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: PCIx != PCI-e? |
| 15:35.48 | pagefault_ | ddr2 will give you higher bandwith but higher latency |
| 15:35.55 | nullpuppy | amd64 will only support ddr until h2 of next year |
| 15:36.00 | nullpuppy | yup |
| 15:36.01 | nullpuppy | darth_mall: yup |
| 15:36.04 | darth_mall | huh |
| 15:36.16 | nullpuppy | tis easy to confuse the two |
| 15:36.38 | nullpuppy | nope, two different standards to solve the same problem :) |
| 15:36.43 | darth_mall | yay! |
| 15:36.45 | pagefault_ | PCI-Express is the one that is good |
| 15:36.47 | pagefault_ | the other one flopped |
| 15:36.51 | lurgy | waight |
| 15:36.59 | lurgy | is PCI-Express PCIx or PCI-e? |
| 15:37.06 | nullpuppy | pci-express is pci-e |
| 15:37.13 | nullpuppy | i don't remember what the x is in pci-x |
| 15:37.16 | pagefault_ | but no one really talks about PCIx anymore |
| 15:37.21 | lurgy | Xtra-stinky? |
| 15:37.23 | pagefault_ | so PCIx usually means PCI-express |
| 15:37.41 | lurgy | teh damn abbreviations make me want to stick with music :P |
| 15:37.42 | Cae | so..if I want a fairly nice video card, but not top-of-the-line, what should I end up getting to support it on the mobo? |
| 15:37.50 | lurgy | voodoo3 |
| 15:37.51 | pagefault_ | sort of like how divx used to be that nasty dvd format |
| 15:37.56 | pagefault_ | but now it's a video codec |
| 15:38.07 | nullpuppy | if you go with a pci-e board, you'll have more upgradability |
| 15:38.08 | Cae | ie mid to mid-high range card will probably require.... |
| 15:38.18 | nullpuppy | and card prices are about the same for agp or pci-e |
| 15:38.24 | nullpuppy | so that doesn't matter much |
| 15:38.27 | Cae | okay |
| 15:38.36 | darth_mall | Cae: you can still get good video cards on AGP |
| 15:38.45 | pagefault_ | AGP is pretty much legacy now |
| 15:38.53 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 15:39.00 | darth_mall | I guess the question is: when you do eventually have to move up to PCI-e, do you want to have to get a new mobo |
| 15:39.09 | Cae | well, yes, but it means if I have two boards that are roughly the same price, and one's agp, and one's pci-e, I'll probably get pci-e |
| 15:39.14 | darth_mall | pagefault_: maybe, but there are still pretty good cards out there for it, and they're cheaper =P |
| 15:39.19 | pagefault_ | darth_mall, yeah :) |
| 15:39.24 | nullpuppy | Cae: yup |
| 15:39.33 | pagefault_ | i'm just talking in terms of what the hardware vendors say |
| 15:39.40 | darth_mall | Cae: that would probably be what I'd do, but I'd also check out price differences in the cards too |
| 15:39.43 | Cae | but if it is more cost-effective for me, I will get agp and a card to go with it |
| 15:39.46 | Cae | yeah |
| 15:39.55 | pagefault_ | like when PCI came out and they still made ISA versions of their cards for a while |
| 15:39.57 | nullpuppy | anyways.. i must go now |
| 15:39.59 | nullpuppy | :/ |
| 15:40.03 | Cae | I intend to..I'm just trying to build a requirements list for my hardware, hehe |
| 15:40.10 | Cae | have fun |
| 15:40.16 | nullpuppy | i'll try :) |
| 15:41.01 | Cae | okay..sata..onboard..how many versions are there now? :P |
| 15:41.28 | Cae | sata 150, sata2.. |
| 15:42.06 | Cae | what's the difference to me? |
| 15:42.17 | pagefault_ | I guess one is faster (in theory) |
| 15:42.52 | pagefault_ | i've never seen a sata 2 drive |
| 15:43.22 | pagefault_ | I would assume they are backwards compatible with eachother |
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| 15:46.15 | pagefault_ | normally a PCI-express mobo will come with a number of slots from 1x to 16x |
| 15:46.38 | Cae | mkay..and then..raid I don't care about..because I never use it..ever..humm..what else.. |
| 15:47.23 | pagefault_ | maybe onboard things |
| 15:47.33 | pagefault_ | I find that onboard network and sound is pretty much good |
| 15:47.34 | Cae | number of slots I suppose..4-6.. |
| 15:47.44 | Cae | I have a sound card I'd use.. |
| 15:47.56 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 15:48.07 | Cae | or get a similar one, since it probably costs about $12 now, but it works fine for me |
| 15:48.44 | Cae | integrated video I don't care about, since I'm using a video card |
| 15:48.59 | Cae | and pretty much everything has onboard lan at 10/100 |
| 15:49.20 | pagefault_ | you will maybe need an adaptor if you plan on using the same PSU |
| 15:49.27 | pagefault_ | since they changed the connector |
| 15:49.31 | Cae | my psu has sata connectors |
| 15:49.35 | Cae | hm |
| 15:49.38 | pagefault_ | I mean for the motherboard |
| 15:49.41 | Cae | yeah |
| 15:49.49 | Cae | will have to see. |
| 15:50.47 | Cae | max memory at least 2gb, don't really care beyond that. most seem to have maxes at 4, which is fine, obviously. |
| 15:51.39 | Cae | pata onboard would be nice, and is probably there on most boards anyway |
| 15:51.53 | Cae | if not, I have cards for that |
| 15:52.06 | Cae | but I think the pata drives will stay in the linux bos |
| 15:52.08 | Cae | *box |
| 15:52.50 | Cae | socket type clearly depends on processor, which essentially ends up coming down to price on what gives me everything else I want |
| 15:53.14 | Cae | north and south bridge stuff I don't know enough about, or care enough about right now, to specify |
| 15:53.29 | Cae | manufacturers..abit, asus..anyone else? not msi.. |
| 15:54.28 | pagefault_ | what CPU were you going with? |
| 15:54.30 | pagefault_ | AMD or intel? |
| 15:54.37 | Cae | hadn't decided yet |
| 15:54.38 | pagefault_ | if AMD go with an nforce4 |
| 15:55.05 | Cae | why? |
| 15:55.13 | pagefault_ | it's one of the better ones |
| 15:55.20 | pagefault_ | performance and stability wise |
| 15:55.23 | Cae | okay |
| 15:55.45 | Cae | hehe. was curious :) always am. bleh..hum..video card requirements. |
| 15:56.07 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 15:56.21 | Cae | memory, 128 min |
| 15:57.45 | Cae | do I care agp pro 8x/4x vs agp 8x/4x, if I go agp? |
| 15:58.58 | Cae | and..is there anything else I really care about? directx, memory type/interface, what types/numbers out? |
| 15:59.37 | Cae | 2 dvi? |
| 16:04.19 | pagefault_ | well you need a mobo with an agp-pro slot to run an agp pro card I think |
| 16:04.32 | pagefault_ | but an agp pro slot is backwards compatible with AGP, my mobo has one |
| 16:04.53 | Cae | nod |
| 16:04.53 | pagefault_ | 2 DVI just means it has 2 DVI ports but you can get an adaptor or one is included to use a DB25 connection (to a CRT) |
| 16:05.16 | Cae | I adore flatscreens. |
| 16:05.37 | pagefault_ | with two DVI ports you could run two in digital mode |
| 16:05.50 | Cae | yes. |
| 16:06.08 | Cae | who for manufacturers? |
| 16:06.24 | Cae | clearly, nvidia, ati. who else with the chipsets? |
| 16:06.36 | pagefault_ | for video cards? |
| 16:06.42 | Cae | yeah |
| 16:06.48 | pagefault_ | well nvidia and ati are the good ones |
| 16:06.52 | pagefault_ | you still have S3 and XGI |
| 16:07.02 | pagefault_ | but I personally wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole |
| 16:07.09 | Cae | hehe |
| 16:07.26 | Cae | I was just wondering if someone else popped up out of the blue while I wasn't paying attention |
| 16:07.46 | pagefault_ | nah not really |
| 16:07.49 | Cae | k |
| 16:07.55 | pagefault_ | if you plan on using linux then I would go with nvidia still at this point |
| 16:09.03 | Cae | woohoo, they no longer sell my current soundcard on newegg..hehe |
| 16:09.13 | lurgy | woohoo |
| 16:09.34 | Cae | yeah..I've not had problems with nvidia. this will be a windows box..but..meh |
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| 16:10.26 | Cae | wait, yes they do |
| 16:10.52 | Cae | ye olde soundblaster live |
| 16:11.47 | Cae | though not my exact card |
| 16:13.27 | Cae | power supplies..antec and thermaltake. |
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| 16:33.45 | pagefault_ | antec is good |
| 16:33.58 | pagefault_ | no idea about thermaltake for a psu |
| 16:34.07 | pagefault_ | they make decent hsf's |
| 16:35.42 | pagefault_ | need to patch WoW |
| 16:35.47 | pagefault_ | been away for a week |
| 16:36.11 | pagefault_ | I get all my nice warlock fixes |
| 16:40.46 | sbahra | hi pagefault_ |
| 16:40.52 | pagefault_ | hey samy |
| 16:44.00 | Cae | hm. the 64 is tempting. reviews look good. performance looks good. requires less stringent cooling. |
| 16:48.30 | Cae | is the stock heatsink/fan good? |
| 16:48.44 | darth_mall | are you buying a shuttle? |
| 16:49.10 | Cae | I have no idea. |
| 16:49.23 | darth_mall | if you're not buying a shuttle, than I don't know |
| 16:49.33 | darth_mall | but the heatsinks that the shuttles use are good |
| 16:49.42 | darth_mall | at least, I've been happy with mine |
| 16:50.19 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r304 10bridge/src/ (Makefile.am g2bridge.cpp): Right, the whole updating the Makefile thing. |
| 16:51.07 | Cae | hm. no, not a shuttle |
| 16:51.28 | Cae | too small |
| 16:51.34 | darth_mall | too small? |
| 16:52.06 | darth_mall | it sits right on my desk and is so unobtrusive ^^ |
| 16:52.17 | Cae | but where would I put everything I need? :P |
| 16:52.28 | Cae | I have cooling concerns with shuttles, mainly |
| 16:52.29 | darth_mall | depends on what you need |
| 16:52.35 | darth_mall | they don't get hot |
| 16:52.42 | Cae | but how? magic? |
| 16:52.58 | darth_mall | they're well designed |
| 16:53.07 | darth_mall | they have a special heatsink thingy for the processor |
| 16:53.12 | darth_mall | it pipes the heat off the cpu to the case fan |
| 16:53.52 | darth_mall | I mean, if you need more than one 5 1/4" bay, then a shuttle is going to be too small |
| 16:53.59 | darth_mall | or if you need more than one PCI slot |
| 16:54.22 | darth_mall | but I have not used my PCI slots in so long, and I barely use my optical drive anyway |
| 16:55.11 | darth_mall | s/the/his/ |
| 16:55.23 | Cae | how quiet? |
| 16:55.30 | darth_mall | 6 |
| 16:56.15 | darth_mall | I haven't exactly measured the amount of noise output by the shuttle |
| 16:56.23 | darth_mall | it also depends on the hardware you've got in there |
| 16:56.35 | darth_mall | I've got an older Mactor EIDE drive that sounds like a jet compared to the rest of my hardware |
| 16:57.15 | darth_mall | I've got the power saving set up to power down the hard drive after 15 mins, and since linux is on my other drive, it gets pretty quiet when I'm in linux because that disk gets powered down |
| 16:57.36 | darth_mall | but it's noisy in windows because of the hard drive |
| 16:57.57 | Cae | well, it would be sata |
| 16:58.05 | darth_mall | my SATA drive is nice and quiet |
| 16:58.14 | Cae | but..I mean..they're mini mes, I've never really considered them.. |
| 16:58.22 | darth_mall | I really like it |
| 16:58.29 | darth_mall | It's powerful and small |
| 16:58.33 | Cae | must have nice video card |
| 16:58.46 | darth_mall | since I don't need that much room in my desktop machine for hardware, it works out nicely for me |
| 16:59.09 | darth_mall | but, like I said, if you need more than one 5 1/4" bay, or more than one PCI slot, the shuttle isn't the way to go |
| 16:59.36 | darth_mall | I figure I'll eventually replace my cd burner with a dvd burner, then I can read/write cds/dvds |
| 16:59.41 | darth_mall | and I'll only need the one bay |
| 16:59.50 | Cae | does it even have enough power? 350w is low.. |
| 17:00.02 | darth_mall | well... it seems to power all of my hardware just fine |
| 17:00.14 | darth_mall | seeing as how everything I have in there works |
| 17:01.24 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r305 10bridge/src/Makefile.am: Updating the Makefile is a good idea, but you need to spell the filenames correctly. |
| 17:02.35 | darth_mall | bleh... stupid Friday |
| 17:02.36 | darth_mall | go faster |
| 17:03.13 | pagefault_ | I have a 450w here |
| 17:03.30 | Cae | hrm |
| 17:03.31 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:03.36 | Cae | pagefault_: you have a shuttle too? |
| 17:03.39 | darth_mall | I can't imagine needing more power for my desktop machine |
| 17:03.51 | pagefault_ | yeah I have a shuttle but the 450w is in my main PC |
| 17:05.20 | Cae | what do you think? |
| 17:05.32 | pagefault_ | what was the question? |
| 17:05.34 | Cae | I mean..this is a machine that's going to be running games a lot |
| 17:05.47 | Cae | what do you think of the shuttle? |
| 17:06.00 | pagefault_ | it's great if you want a nice PC in a small package |
| 17:06.10 | pagefault_ | I haven't had any issues with it |
| 17:06.54 | Cae | hm |
| 17:08.13 | pagefault_ | I dunno if I would use it as my main PC though |
| 17:08.23 | pagefault_ | my shuttle only has room for 2 HD's and 1 optical drive |
| 17:08.29 | pagefault_ | mine is a HTPC |
| 17:09.27 | darth_mall | pagefault_: I think that's all the more room any of the shuttles have |
| 17:09.44 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 17:09.49 | pagefault_ | I only have 2 PCI slots too |
| 17:09.54 | pagefault_ | well 1 really |
| 17:09.56 | pagefault_ | one is PCI-e |
| 17:10.31 | pagefault_ | but you have almost everything else you could need integrated |
| 17:11.46 | darth_mall | when I built mine, it was with the idea that it was just going to be my computer, not storage for music or movies or anything |
| 17:12.06 | darth_mall | I'm going to get some SATA drives and a SATA raid controller for my old computer and put together a fileserver for that purpose |
| 17:12.13 | darth_mall | so I had no need for more space |
| 17:12.19 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 17:12.31 | pagefault_ | mine has a SATA raid built in |
| 17:12.49 | darth_mall | pagefault_: yeah, so does mine, but it doesn't have enough space for all the disks |
| 17:13.01 | darth_mall | that's why I'm turning my old computer into a fileserver |
| 17:13.02 | pagefault_ | ahh that sucks |
| 17:13.07 | darth_mall | no, it doesn't |
| 17:13.16 | darth_mall | I don't want my personal computer to be a fileserver |
| 17:13.21 | darth_mall | I want a fileserver to be my fileserver |
| 17:13.26 | pagefault_ | yeah but I mean 2 drives I guess is ok |
| 17:13.30 | pagefault_ | but I have a ton of drives laying around |
| 17:14.02 | darth_mall | I've got a 160 gig SATA drive in unic right now, that's all the more space I need to use the computer |
| 17:14.16 | pagefault_ | the only beef I had with my shuttle was I had to disconnect the flash card reader when I installed XP |
| 17:14.16 | darth_mall | actually, more than the I need, really |
| 17:14.24 | pagefault_ | otherwise my main drive would have ended up at f: |
| 17:14.31 | pagefault_ | which caused a lot of problems with some problems |
| 17:14.33 | pagefault_ | err programs |
| 17:14.34 | darth_mall | sounds like a windows problem |
| 17:14.40 | pagefault_ | yeah it is a windows problem |
| 17:14.43 | pagefault_ | but it was the only workaround |
| 17:15.20 | pagefault_ | but for a machine that was probably targetted to be used with windows |
| 17:15.23 | pagefault_ | I found that to be a disappointment |
| 17:16.00 | pagefault_ | I had some issues with the CPU fan speed but a BIOS update fixed that |
| 17:17.00 | pagefault_ | I also had some problems getting my LG DVD-RW to work with it |
| 17:17.03 | sbahra | I ended up buying a Toshiba Tecra A4 |
| 17:17.05 | sbahra | I was going to purchase an AMD64 laptop. |
| 17:17.16 | pagefault_ | my shuttle has this flap over the cdrom |
| 17:17.32 | pagefault_ | and when you press a button on the case it is supposed to press the eject button on the cdrom drive |
| 17:17.48 | pagefault_ | I had to glue a grommit to the little finger that pushed the button in order for it to eject |
| 17:18.03 | darth_mall | that thing is pretty sensitive to position, I had to fiddle with mine a bit to get it just right |
| 17:18.37 | darth_mall | what's great is if the drive is too far forward, it just keeps opening and closing, opening and closing... hehe |
| 17:18.40 | darth_mall | that was funny |
| 17:20.04 | darth_mall | everyone point at slimspace |
| 17:20.16 | pagefault_ | yeah |
| 17:20.25 | pagefault_ | that was fun to figure out |
| 17:20.30 | pagefault_ | but I eventually got it right :) |
| 17:20.33 | darth_mall | I got it right the first few times |
| 17:20.41 | darth_mall | it was the 3rd time that I did it wrong for some reason |
| 17:20.49 | darth_mall | it was pretty hilarious |
| 17:20.52 | pagefault_ | the LG drives have a small round button to press so it was a bit tricky |
| 17:21.06 | darth_mall | my sony wasn't too bad, except that the drive itself is pretty long |
| 17:21.15 | darth_mall | it was something of a trick getting it in there, but I figured it out |
| 17:21.40 | pagefault_ | but other than that it's a solid PC |
| 17:22.02 | pagefault_ | oh I did buy a wifi addon for my shuttle |
| 17:22.12 | pagefault_ | but it turned out that it didn't really work with my model |
| 17:22.19 | pagefault_ | so I just ended up buying a USB thing |
| 17:22.23 | darth_mall | eww |
| 17:22.49 | pagefault_ | well this being a HTPC I didn't want to lay down messy wire |
| 17:23.06 | darth_mall | for all that mess that cat-5 creates ^^ |
| 17:23.13 | darth_mall | so many little wires... |
| 17:23.14 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 17:23.16 | pagefault_ | i'm lazy :) |
| 17:24.42 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r306 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Woo! Stopping processes works. |
| 17:25.41 | pagefault_ | now to patch WoW |
| 17:26.05 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1420 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: don't press the big red button |
| 17:26.33 | pagefault_ | ooh |
| 17:26.38 | pagefault_ | press it |
| 17:26.50 | darth_mall | uhoh... lurgy's bein' productive again |
| 17:26.51 | darth_mall | bad lurgy! |
| 17:27.17 | pagefault_ | bah productive |
| 17:28.04 | pagefault_ | my power has been wanky today |
| 17:28.07 | pagefault_ | my UPS keeps kicking in |
| 17:55.26 | Cae | why nforce4? |
| 17:55.33 | Cae | or..actually..brb |
| 17:58.33 | Cae | okay, back |
| 17:58.39 | Cae | so, why nforce4? |
| 17:59.54 | darth_mall | because it's one more than nforce3? |
| 18:00.33 | Cae | what about any hardware incompatibility or issues? |
| 18:00.53 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 18:00.59 | darth_mall | I've got nforce3, and it works fine |
| 18:02.53 | Cae | I've heard rumor of strange hard drive happenings with them |
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| 18:10.35 | ChipX86 | huh... |
| 18:10.53 | ChipX86 | according to this review, MS Virtual PC supports Microsoft OS/2 as one of the officially supported guests |
| 18:11.00 | ChipX86 | doesn't MS OS/2 predate OS/2 2.0? |
| 18:13.15 | Cae | dunno |
| 18:21.07 | ChipX86 | ooh, I like the subtle film strip in the dvd icon in gnome |
| 18:21.14 | darth_mall | liar |
| 18:21.55 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 18:22.05 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I kid. I kid |
| 18:30.20 | darth_mall | wow... |
| 18:30.28 | darth_mall | you guys wanna see something unsettling? |
| 18:31.06 | Cae | uh. |
| 18:31.13 | Cae | define unsettling? |
| 18:31.46 | darth_mall | this girl I was friends with in HS had some kind of lobotomy |
| 18:31.55 | Cae | why? |
| 18:31.57 | darth_mall | not sure |
| 18:32.15 | darth_mall | heh... but she put a picture of herself after the operation up on deviantart |
| 18:32.26 | Cae | um..okay |
| 18:32.45 | darth_mall | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14483136/ |
| 18:32.48 | darth_mall | it is pretty creepy |
| 18:32.57 | darth_mall | if you're squeemish, don't look |
| 18:33.01 | ChipX86 | eep |
| 18:33.10 | ChipX86 | she's okay though? |
| 18:33.44 | darth_mall | from what I gather |
| 18:34.50 | Cae | creepy |
| 18:41.27 | Cae | what's with the amd64 chips having two pin configurations? 754 and 939? why? |
| 18:42.04 | darth_mall | it's like having two pant legs, instead of one |
| 18:42.07 | pagefault_ | 939 is the older one |
| 18:42.12 | pagefault_ | actually no |
| 18:42.17 | pagefault_ | 754 is the for the cheap processors |
| 18:42.22 | pagefault_ | and 939 is for the better ones |
| 18:43.37 | Cae | but some of the 754 ones are better |
| 18:43.48 | darth_mall | better like frogs! |
| 18:43.54 | Cae | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487%5E10248,00.html 3200+ for example |
| 18:43.54 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 18:44.35 | pagefault_ | ahh |
| 18:44.38 | pagefault_ | memory controller bandwidth |
| 18:44.43 | pagefault_ | 754 is only 64-bit |
| 18:44.50 | Cae | and socket A, apparently.. |
| 18:44.54 | darth_mall | and pants |
| 18:44.54 | Cae | hm? |
| 18:45.00 | pagefault_ | 939 is 128-bit |
| 18:45.10 | pagefault_ | so you would get better performance out of a 939 processor in memory bandwidth |
| 18:45.47 | pagefault_ | methinks 754 is targetted towards the budget market |
| 18:46.01 | Cae | but then why does the 3200+ 754-pin have 1gb L2 cache and the 939 only have 512mb? |
| 18:46.20 | Cae | er, mb, kb |
| 18:46.27 | Cae | instead of gb, mb |
| 18:46.39 | Cae | been eyeing hard drives.. |
| 18:46.42 | pagefault_ | I believe the 754 version is a newer version than the 939 one |
| 18:46.46 | pagefault_ | the 939 3200_ has been out for a long time |
| 18:47.49 | pagefault_ | I wonder why they don't have the FX's listed there |
| 18:48.00 | darth_mall | because they're hateful |
| 18:48.20 | ChipX86 | I love The People's Court |
| 18:48.21 | Cae | they're listed on a different page |
| 18:48.29 | ChipX86 | it makes me feel like my life is definitely on track |
| 18:48.47 | pagefault_ | ah |
| 18:48.56 | pagefault_ | well keep in mind the xxxx+ ones are single channel DDR |
| 18:48.58 | darth_mall | ChipX86: hehe |
| 18:49.15 | pagefault_ | but you will pay a lot more for a FX |
| 18:50.17 | Cae | my brain hurts |
| 18:50.25 | darth_mall | http://www.boltcity.com/copper_home.htm |
| 18:50.27 | darth_mall | you guys should all read that |
| 18:50.28 | Cae | this using the same name for different things annoys me |
| 18:50.30 | darth_mall | it's a great comic |
| 18:50.42 | darth_mall | takes about 15 mins to read the entire series |
| 18:51.10 | ChipX86 | this is great |
| 18:51.34 | darth_mall | man... that's a pretty hefty thunderstorm |
| 18:52.16 | ChipX86 | this couple, who looks very up-class and all, signed up for this daycare service for their kid, who has an owner that didnt' even bother looking good for court. The contract says they must leave a deposit and if they cancel within the first 3 weeks, they'll get the deposit back |
| 18:52.48 | ChipX86 | they called and signed up, and changed their mind before the service started and canceled. The daycare providers claimed that this wasn't within the first 3 weeks, it was before that, so they weren't going to give them money back, and they also want the daily fee |
| 18:53.26 | ChipX86 | it's very amusing to watch |
| 18:54.31 | Cae | hm |
| 18:54.43 | Cae | whatcha mean single-channel only? |
| 18:55.30 | pagefault_ | single memory controller instead of two |
| 18:55.40 | pagefault_ | two reduces memory latency and increases performance |
| 19:00.14 | Cae | what's dual-channel now? |
| 19:02.14 | darth_mall | it's like single-channel, but twice |
| 19:02.16 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:02.19 | darth_mall | make today end! |
| 19:02.27 | Cae | no, I mean what processors :P |
| 19:02.28 | ChipX86 | noo, not yet! I have a deadline! |
| 19:02.31 | darth_mall | I don't have the cognitive capacity for work |
| 19:02.44 | darth_mall | I wanna go get a latte, go home and relac |
| 19:02.47 | darth_mall | s/c$/x/ |
| 19:03.23 | ChipX86 | yay, Shrek 2 |
| 19:05.35 | Cae | hm. so which one is actually better..3200+ 939-pin or 754-pin? |
| 19:11.22 | ChipX86 | oh no. |
| 19:11.26 | ChipX86 | grrr |
| 19:12.10 | ChipX86 | nothing is ever easy |
| 19:12.50 | ToyKeeper | Zedd? |
| 19:13.10 | darth_mall | ChipX86: or... everything is always easy |
| 19:13.16 | darth_mall | but not likely |
| 19:17.46 | ChipX86 | yay Shrek 2 |
| 19:31.39 | pagefault_ | well I give the new coldplay album 8/10 |
| 19:32.39 | Cae | hm. good core? winchester, venice, ..? |
| 19:32.52 | Cae | rather, best core? |
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| 19:34.26 | pagefault_ | no idea |
| 19:34.32 | pagefault_ | I think venice is the new one |
| 19:34.37 | pagefault_ | so I think thats better |
| 19:34.39 | pagefault_ | it has SSE3 |
| 19:42.43 | Cae | http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/ |
| 19:42.46 | Cae | in short, yes :) |
| 19:43.06 | Cae | venice > winchester > the other two |
| 19:43.19 | Cae | clawhammer and..whatchamacallit |
| 19:43.35 | Cae | newcastle |
| 19:44.59 | pagefault_ | I don't know how they come up with these names |
| 19:46.03 | darth_mall | they use a Ouija board |
| 19:46.26 | file[desk] | mmm... food |
| 19:46.32 | Cae | probably |
| 19:46.32 | pagefault_ | veal on a bun |
| 19:47.15 | file[desk] | nooooooo |
| 19:47.22 | pagefault_ | yess |
| 19:47.28 | pagefault_ | but you prefer pizza |
| 19:47.33 | file[desk] | work ordered me plane tickets I can't use :( |
| 19:47.42 | pagefault_ | that sucks |
| 19:47.48 | pagefault_ | whats wrong with them |
| 19:47.55 | file[desk] | they're etickets |
| 19:47.58 | file[desk] | Moncton can't handle them |
| 19:48.01 | pagefault_ | what? |
| 19:48.04 | pagefault_ | thats rediculous |
| 19:48.06 | file[desk] | can't be issued |
| 19:48.11 | darth_mall | recockulus! |
| 19:48.22 | pagefault_ | I thought air canada was e-ticket only now |
| 19:49.41 | file[desk] | he didn't follow my instructions, so oh well |
| 19:50.00 | pagefault_ | I had some nice flight attendants for once yesterday |
| 19:50.14 | file[desk] | did they serve Swiss Chalet? |
| 19:50.18 | pagefault_ | no |
| 19:50.21 | file[desk] | :( |
| 19:50.34 | pagefault_ | but they didn't smash my arm this time when they came by with the cart |
| 19:50.48 | file[desk] | wow |
| 19:51.05 | file[desk] | yay it's the weekend |
| 19:51.10 | pagefault_ | yep |
| 19:51.25 | pagefault_ | i've found toronto is actually the cheapest place for duty free |
| 19:51.28 | pagefault_ | out of all the places i've been |
| 19:52.40 | file[desk] | well, I remember the great "where are you?" calls |
| 19:52.44 | pagefault_ | yeah that was fun |
| 19:52.54 | pagefault_ | that map was awful |
| 19:53.00 | file[desk] | yeah |
| 19:54.59 | pagefault_ | we have loblaws here |
| 19:55.06 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1421 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: compatibility happiness |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1422 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: ...and for real this time |
| 19:55.40 | pagefault_ | we had supercenter, back in the 80's |
| 19:56.12 | pagefault_ | president's choice stuff is so good |
| 19:56.59 | pagefault_ | although I got addicted to marks and spencer in london |
| 19:57.43 | ChipX86 | I love this movie |
| 19:58.11 | pagefault_ | yeah it's fun |
| 19:58.20 | pagefault_ | a sequel better/as good as the first |
| 19:58.23 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:58.49 | pagefault_ | I just remember I have the dv |
| 19:58.50 | pagefault_ | d |
| 19:58.56 | pagefault_ | dvd time! |
| 20:01.39 | ChipX86 | Captain Hook is a good pianist |
| 20:02.34 | pagefault_ | hmm |
| 20:02.37 | pagefault_ | what will happen to blackberry's |
| 20:02.43 | pagefault_ | blackberry's are nifty |
| 20:03.32 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1423 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: ...and for really real this time |
| 20:04.02 | ChipX86 | the characters are perfect in this |
| 20:04.10 | darth_mall | ChipX86: whatcha doin? |
| 20:04.16 | ChipX86 | coding and watching Shrek 2 |
| 20:04.17 | darth_mall | lurgy: stop it! |
| 20:04.39 | darth_mall | I see |
| 20:04.55 | lurgy | darth_mall: hmm? |
| 20:05.01 | darth_mall | you're being productive |
| 20:05.16 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1424 10mck/PyMCK/Ground/Dialogs/AboutDLG.py: ...and for really really real this time |
| 20:05.22 | lurgy | after a fashion |
| 20:06.16 | lurgy | if by 'productive' you mean making sure that my smartass about dialog will work with any pygtk-2.x, then yes ;) |
| 20:06.56 | darth_mall | lol |
| 20:11.10 | darth_mall | man, I'm not getting anything done today |
| 20:12.37 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r307 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Alright. It's now stopping all the processes the way it should. |
| 20:18.45 | darth_mall | bah |
| 20:18.47 | darth_mall | I hate ubuntu |
| 20:20.07 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 20:28.04 | ChipX86 | numist, ping |
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| 20:38.16 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r308 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: |
| 20:38.16 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: Can stop individual processes based on which controller they're connected to, or kill |
| 20:38.16 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: all the running bridge processes. |
| 20:42.07 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r309 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Comment up that newly finished funciton. |
| 20:44.53 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r310 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Update the help message. |
| 20:46.05 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r311 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Allow restart of a specific controller as well as stop and start. |
| 20:59.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: http://www.gothictheatre.com/infoshow.asp?day=7%2F12%2F2005&month=7&year=2005&id=3205 |
| 21:00.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow: wow! |
| 21:01.05 | kergoth | ooh |
| 21:01.35 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 21:02.34 | darth_mall | hehe... people are now using the Michael Jackson trial to send out viruses |
| 21:02.40 | ChipX86 | you know, sometimes I'm just really in the mood for Bruce Springsteen |
| 21:02.45 | darth_mall | eep |
| 21:02.54 | ChipX86 | he has some good music |
| 21:03.04 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:03.15 | darth_mall | bob dylan #2 ^^ |
| 21:03.22 | darth_mall | could be worse, could be Bob Dylan #3 |
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| 21:03.55 | purple_cow | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh |
| 21:03.59 | purple_cow | the epoxies have a new album!!!! |
| 21:04.03 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 21:04.18 | darth_mall | but for now, coffee |
| 21:05.38 | ChipX86 | hrmmm.. |
| 21:05.45 | ChipX86 | I should call my grandpa sometime.. *sigh* |
| 21:07.29 | ChipX86 | yay Hookahman |
| 21:09.31 | ChipX86 | I'm just getting too frustrated lately at vmware. Not that it's gotten bad there. Just I need a vacation and time away. |
| 21:14.06 | purple_cow | oh ramona, if there was only something between us, other than our clothes |
| 21:24.28 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 21:25.37 | purple_cow | just amused at your tech support troubles |
| 21:38.52 | purple_cow | do you like girls or boys? it's confusing these days |
| 21:40.13 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: who was that directed at? |
| 21:42.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's part of a song :P |
| 21:42.41 | purple_cow | a really good song |
| 21:50.02 | ChipX86 | ARGH |
| 21:50.13 | ChipX86 | someone broke powering on VMs, which I need in order to test this stuff that must be in TODAY |
| 21:50.54 | ChipX86 | I'm just not having a great week |
| 21:52.08 | purple_cow | that's not smoketested? |
| 21:52.16 | ChipX86 | you would think someone would have tested it, but nooo |
| 21:52.35 | purple_cow | i'm just surprised it's not automatically tested |
| 21:52.58 | ChipX86 | it's not the type of thing that usually breaks a lot |
| 21:53.11 | ChipX86 | and we don't have a system in place to automate that through a UI |
| 21:53.13 | ChipX86 | which is how it's broken |
| 21:54.29 | purple_cow | argh |
| 21:54.36 | purple_cow | blam just lost all my feeds |
| 21:55.48 | purple_cow | stupid crappy software |
| 21:56.19 | darth_mall | what feeds? |
| 21:56.36 | purple_cow | taquitos.net, jen, micah, all those other folks, ... |
| 21:57.50 | darth_mall | jen, micah? |
| 21:57.54 | darth_mall | like... rss feeds? |
| 21:58.07 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 21:58.22 | darth_mall | or Jen for that matter |
| 21:59.06 | purple_cow | they're both on livejournal |
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| 21:59.50 | darth_mall | I never thought I'd see the day that Micah got on livejournal |
| 22:00.00 | darth_mall | for some reason I thought he hated that thing |
| 22:00.05 | purple_cow | jen's is what you might expect (a lot of online quiz results :P), micah's settling into a fairly normal blogging pattern after starting with a big "i'm being different!" post |
| 22:00.17 | darth_mall | lol |
| 22:00.29 | darth_mall | link? |
| 22:01.16 | purple_cow | http://www.livejournal.com/users/scanwidget/ |
| 22:01.56 | lurgy | uh oh here we go.. |
| 22:02.01 | purple_cow | lurgy: hehe |
| 22:02.05 | lurgy | the infamous "i'm being different post" |
| 22:02.45 | purple_cow | but it's still funny |
| 22:02.47 | lurgy | darth_mall: yeah, me too.. but he used to hate aim too, and, well, yeah.. |
| 22:03.11 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 22:03.18 | darth_mall | well, but he was on AIM for a while, then stopped |
| 22:03.21 | lurgy | yeah |
| 22:03.25 | ChipX86 | scanline's here? |
| 22:03.27 | darth_mall | no |
| 22:03.31 | lurgy | well now he's off cuz he's on his road trip thingy |
| 22:03.41 | ChipX86 | in silicon valley here |
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| 22:04.11 | ChipX86 | "tomorrow morning I start looking at apartments in Silicon Valley" |
| 22:05.08 | ChipX86 | vncviewer absolutely sucks |
| 22:05.12 | purple_cow | well, it's always possible he's looking at apartments over the internet via his cell phone, but it's probably fairly likely he's actually in CA |
| 22:05.31 | ChipX86 | wonder which city he's going to live in |
| 22:05.45 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:06.05 | ChipX86 | same |
| 22:06.17 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that obvious? ;) |
| 22:07.14 | darth_mall | welp... that was about what I'd expect from a livejournal entry |
| 22:07.56 | darth_mall | good to know that I still find blogs pretty much as boring as ever |
| 22:08.06 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:09.39 | ChipX86 | I am getting so pissed off |
| 22:09.44 | darth_mall | ChipX86: =\ |
| 22:09.52 | ChipX86 | someone horribly broke this |
| 22:10.02 | darth_mall | time to go bust some balls? |
| 22:10.03 | ChipX86 | and of course it's *MY* responsibility to fix it |
| 22:10.13 | darth_mall | well... you are the Chipinator |
| 22:10.19 | ChipX86 | as if I don't have a ton of things on my plate as it is |
| 22:10.43 | ChipX86 | so now I have to go through approx. 400 changes and figure out whihc one broke it |
| 22:11.11 | ChipX86 | if everything used the sane API like they should have, this would have been easy, but nooo |
| 22:11.38 | darth_mall | >< |
| 22:11.50 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 22:11.54 | ChipX86 | I'm just frustrated this week |
| 22:11.57 | ChipX86 | nothing's gone well |
| 22:13.09 | darth_mall | that seems to be going around a lot |
| 22:13.48 | kergoth | i'm really sick of this michael jackson trial crap |
| 22:13.55 | ChipX86 | I've ignored it completely |
| 22:14.16 | darth_mall | kergoth: but... it's a celebrity... on trial... and he looks like some kind of freakish clown doll! |
| 22:14.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:14.25 | kergoth | indeed |
| 22:14.29 | darth_mall | did you guys here about the latest virus thing? |
| 22:14.34 | darth_mall | the supposed suicide not from MJ |
| 22:14.38 | darth_mall | s/not/note/ |
| 22:14.47 | darth_mall | I think it's pretty funny |
| 22:15.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: which movie were you gonna go see? |
| 22:16.11 | darth_mall | Mr. and Mrs. Smith |
| 22:16.24 | darth_mall | so good, it will probably make me want to strangle half the people in attendance |
| 22:16.42 | darth_mall | but I'm going anyway, because Kris asked |
| 22:17.50 | purple_cow | is that the one about the assassins? |
| 22:18.19 | darth_mall | yep |
| 22:18.24 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 22:18.25 | darth_mall | Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie |
| 22:18.34 | darth_mall | it's gonna be garbage, but it looks like an amusing diversion |
| 22:18.44 | darth_mall | plus I like seeing movies with Kris for some reason |
| 22:19.20 | ChipX86 | a married couple who don't know that they're assassins, despite being very good at detecting such things, who then have to kill each other and just accept it, but then probably decide to fight together for the common good and save puppies and stuff. How could it be bad? |
| 22:19.25 | CIA-9 | g2bridge: 03evan * r312 10bridge/src/g2bridge.cpp: Give the OptionParser object to stop() instead of a string. Just for consistency's sake. |
| 22:19.41 | darth_mall | s/it be/it not be/ |
| 22:21.08 | purple_cow | ChipX86: well, unless they end up teaching someone the true meaning of christmas, it can't be *great* |
| 22:26.40 | darth_mall | heh |
| 22:30.21 | kergoth | bleh |
| 22:30.38 | darth_mall | blah |
| 22:30.51 | ChipX86 | today sucks. |
| 22:33.08 | purple_cow | silly ATLAS, assuming that my cache size is 256kb |
| 22:33.46 | purple_cow | oh no! scipy isn't in portage? |
| 22:40.27 | darth_mall | yay! Ajay got new AIR comics up! |
| 22:40.28 | darth_mall | he rocks |
| 22:40.31 | darth_mall | go Ajay |
| 22:40.51 | darth_mall | there's two |
| 22:40.53 | darth_mall | and it's serial |
| 22:41.03 | darth_mall | so.... DON'T READ THE FIRST ONE FIRST! |
| 22:42.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:45.24 | darth_mall | (16:44:03) Ajay!: the best part is, i actually said that to a little girl. that is almost a word for word translation of a transaction i had |
| 22:45.45 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:46.12 | ChipX86 | were any of you contacted by Evangelia Berdou? |
| 22:46.16 | purple_cow | who? |
| 22:46.23 | darth_mall | not me! |
| 22:46.32 | ChipX86 | a research student who is interviewing people regarding the gnome bounties |
| 22:47.47 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 22:47.52 | ChipX86 | http://www.livejournal.com/users/jwz/494040.html |
| 22:47.53 | darth_mall | agreed |
| 22:47.58 | ChipX86 | " The future direction of xscreensaver has become... highly ambiguous." |
| 22:48.14 | ChipX86 | "If all goes well, then in six months or so, the only Linux machines I'll ever have to touch will have no video or sound cards in them at all." |
| 22:48.49 | darth_mall | what a ugly color scheme |
| 22:53.12 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:53.14 | kergoth | watching the news |
| 22:53.24 | kergoth | they're doing a report on accidents caused by driver inattention and distractions right.. |
| 22:53.31 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 22:53.39 | kergoth | so this reporter is driving a car, while looking into the camera in the passenger seat, talking about all the distractions |
| 22:53.44 | kergoth | like .. the .. video camera perhaps? |
| 22:53.48 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 22:54.19 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:55.06 | darth_mall | yay tv |
| 22:58.10 | kergoth | boored |
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| 23:07.55 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 23:08.01 | ChipX86 | the build is broken now. I can't even compile |
| 23:11.33 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 23:26.19 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:26.24 | purple_cow | "i gazed a gazely stare" |
| 23:26.41 | ChipX86 | oh god. The IT people can't figure out how to fix (upgrade) the Jabber server so they just want to replace it with IRC |
| 23:36.43 | purple_cow | heh |
| 23:49.07 | ChipX86 | "So last night the cleaning crew came in and changed my radio. I'll put an end to that! *holds up a sticky not* 'Please leave the radio set to [station number].'" |
| 23:49.15 | ChipX86 | ha ha, that was a clever commercial! |
| 23:49.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:56.59 | ChipX86 | ooh JoA tonight |
| 23:57.05 | ChipX86 | when's the new season starting? |
| 23:58.40 | nullpuppy | sept probably |
| 23:59.16 | nullpuppy | http://www.tvtome.com/JoanofArcadia/ |
| 23:59.26 | nullpuppy | according to that its cancelled/ended... |
| 23:59.26 | nullpuppy | hrm |
| 23:59.40 | nullpuppy | #$@%#$%% |
| 23:59.44 | nullpuppy | they fscking cancelled it :( |
| 23:59.50 | ChipX86 | WHAT?! |
