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00:04.31scanlimepagefault: so you have a real dev kit, or is this using some other library?
00:07.32pagefaultreal one
00:11.00pagefaultI am releasing all source an anonymous though
00:12.36file[laptop]gah
00:12.47file[laptop]the hard drive in my box @ work is failing
00:14.05pagefaultnoooo
00:14.11pagefaultis it the same HD my UML is on?
00:16.35file[laptop]no
00:16.48file[laptop]that box is perfectly fine
00:27.42CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8852 10wasabi/devices/mi6k/userspace/mi6k.py: With udev and all, /dev/usb/mi6k0 just isn't trendy enough. Switching the default to /dev/mi6k0
00:28.52CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8853 10wasabi/devices/mi6k/ (include/lirc.h include/lirc_dev.h kernel/mi6k.c):
00:28.52CIA-5navi-misc: Make mi6k compatible with lirc 0.7.2. Unfortunately, since this build system is of approximately brick-level
00:28.52CIA-5navi-misc: intelligence, this probably means it *only* works with lirc 0.7.2 now. Bah.
00:29.42scanlimehmm.. rmmod freezes the system nicely :P
00:33.41purple_cowfun
00:34.19scanlimewoo. I think I'll just avoid rmmod. the VFD works at least
00:40.43scanlimeand mode2 works. that's a good sign
00:40.52scanlimeit sure is picking up a lot of noise though
00:41.17purple_cowmode2?
00:41.21scanlimeof course.. the area behind wasabi is some kind of EMI slaughterhouse right now...
00:41.22purple_cowoh, right
00:41.57scanlimeyay, now X won't start
00:45.46darth_mallbooooooooored
00:49.54purple_cowtake off for where?
01:05.09darth_mallblaaaaaaaah
01:38.42numistcat*
01:38.49riotergmail down for anyone else?
01:39.14numistworks here...  pop and webmail
01:40.32riotermmm pop works, websites giving me a 502 though
01:40.33rioteroh well
01:49.34pagefaultugh
01:49.40pagefaultunorganized raid groups
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02:11.31Sophie197lala
02:38.59Sophie197omg so sleepy
02:57.45CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8854 10wasabi/remotes/ (altec_lansing_speakers panasonic_plasma_tv panasonic_tv_aux): Add some new remote control codes
03:04.19pagefaultthat was a long run
03:04.25pagefaultI was in MC for a few seconds :)
03:10.15pagefaulthey
03:10.17pagefaultbrb
03:16.54file[laptop]Jan Polet!
04:23.34pagefaultyay for mythbusters
04:25.21file[laptop]Aliens on Space too
04:41.22gonkulatorugh...
04:41.28gonkulatorwhy must they block blizzard.com...
04:41.39file[laptop]who is blocking that?
04:42.21gonkulatorthe people who run our firewall here at the seminary
04:42.28gonkulatorcategory 'games' is blocked
04:46.10gonkulatorand dang it... now I am going to have to upload it from my cable modem...
04:49.34file[laptop]ah
05:01.16file[laptop]is it sad that I'm making friends with the spammer who spammed our support address?
05:02.21file[laptop]literally there was an MSN address on the e-mail
05:02.45gonkulatorlove the spammer, hate the spam
05:02.52gonkulatorI think thats how it went
05:03.04file[laptop]she's in China
05:04.22file[laptop]I asked about the time, it's 1PM there... I said it was 2AM here and she said I should go to sleep
05:04.40gonkulatoryou should go to sleep
05:07.00file[laptop]we parted ways
05:07.03file[laptop]that was rather easy
05:07.20gonkulatorthats good, so are you going to talk to her again?
05:07.28gonkulatoror was that it for ever?
05:07.58file[laptop]perhaps
05:08.06file[laptop]silly customers
05:08.14file[laptop]it's 2AM and I'm in bed, I'm not going to get up just to test a phone number
05:10.07gonkulatorfile[laptop]: you should write it up, put it on a web page, and submit it to slashdot with the headline "befriending spammers"
05:10.20file[laptop]lol
05:10.56file[laptop]all for it Mr. Smith?
05:11.46gonkulatorall for what?
05:11.54file[laptop]befriending spammers
05:16.43gonkulatorsince spammers are people too, I think my decision is pretty well made :)
05:17.18gonkulatorheh, spammers are like tax collectors of Jesus' times
05:17.37gonkulatorexcept, a little less so
05:18.25file[laptop]I'm thirsty gonkulator :(
05:18.48gonkulatordoes that mean getting up
05:18.55fileyes
05:18.56fileI'm over here now
05:30.23gonkulatorand on that note, all done
05:30.26gonkulatorlater file
05:30.33filebye bye gonkulator
05:38.25darth_mallarg
05:39.12filehi darth_mall
05:44.33purple_cowgra
05:58.17darth_mallhaha!
05:59.45purple_cowhurray!
05:59.50purple_cownow what are we calling our silly thing?
06:00.11nullpuppyw00t!
06:00.19nullpuppymy beer has been bottled!
06:00.47darth_mallpurple_cow: I want to call it SMRT
06:01.51darth_mallnullpuppy: quick! unbottle and install in your belly!
06:03.21nullpuppyhehe, we tried some during the bottling process, tastes pretty good :)
06:03.30nullpuppya bit light, but not bad
06:08.02purple_cowyay
06:08.10purple_cowmy ceiling fan doesn't wobble all over the place now
06:09.04darth_mallcool
06:22.47scanlimefreevo makes me so mad :(
06:23.02scanlimealso, round table pizza needs to be open later
06:23.10purple_cowscanlime: ?
06:23.23scanlimeI was wandering downtown sunnyvale craving a pizza, about 30 minutes after they closed
06:23.28scanlimepurple_cow: !
06:24.21scanlimepurple_cow: I'm really tempted to start a small proof-of-concept media player where the goal is to have instant (a couple frames, at most) response to any button press!
06:24.35scanlimeso so sick of freevo sitting there waiting then doing absolutely nothing useful
06:25.01scanlimeright now it's sorta-working, but sometimes a directory listing comes up empty when there are really plenty of files.. or I play a movie and mplayer immediately exits
06:25.49scanlimeall disk I/O needs to be done in a separate thread from the GUI, and directory entries need to show up as they're read, not only after the entire directory finishes
06:28.12scanlimeugggh
06:28.19scanlimenow Xorg is dying with "illegal instruction"?
06:32.16purple_cowscanlime: there's got to be a way to optimize freevo :P
06:33.30purple_coweven if it means rewriting the diskio stuff, it would be a lot less work than complete reimplementation
06:34.20scanlimefreevo is very messy internally
06:34.29scanlimeI'm sure it could be improved incrementally, but it's no fun :(
06:35.08scanlimepurple_cow: looks like it's crashing initializing glx :P
06:36.25purple_cowscanlime: what distro?
06:36.53scanlimeubuuuuuntoo
06:37.02purple_cowah, dunno
06:37.07scanlimebut it was working a couple hours ago, and I haven't changed anything!
06:37.22scanlimeI'm wondering if this CPU is dying and nvidia just happens to hit something that causes it to kerplode
06:37.28scanlimesigh
06:37.32purple_cowi was having problems initializing glx on bhaskara a while ago, but that the solution was to install by hand rather than use the ebuild
06:37.50file[laptop]scanlime: I think you should just admit defeat and get a new box
06:37.52scanlimeI've already had to do that, the debs were cranky with my self-compiled kernel
06:38.00scanlimeheh
06:38.04file[laptop]there's a point where it makes sense
06:38.15scanlimefile[laptop]: that time will come soon enough
06:38.22scanlimeright now I'm just annoyed with this whole thing
06:38.30file[laptop]ah you're near it
06:38.44scanlimewell, this hardware is temporary in any case
06:38.51scanlimeI'll probably get the same stuff david got for fembot
06:39.25scanlimeI'm actually tempted to get a ready-made set top box, something that will work with swisscenter or twonkyvision.. but I'd be stuck with a much smaller selection of video and audio formats
06:39.30scanlimeand I couldn't run other software on it
06:40.42purple_cowtwonkyvision?
06:41.08darth_malloooh... twonkyvision
06:41.10darth_mallI like that name
06:41.18purple_cowscanlime: yeah. the problem with most commercial STBs is that when the next great codec comes out, you can't use it
06:41.22scanlimenod
06:41.23purple_cowdarth_mall: let's call our sr project that!
06:41.31scanlimepurple_cow: even ogg support seems doubtful
06:41.51file[laptop]doesn't that... blast what is it... D-Link support it?
06:42.04darth_mallpurple_cow: excellent idea
06:42.06purple_cowscanlime: as far as freevo's source, 2.0 looks pretty clean...
06:42.24scanlimehah. reinstalling fixed it. how odd
06:42.50scanlimepurple_cow: I'll have to look through 2.0 then.. it's been a long time since I've touched freevo CVS
06:43.04scanlimemaybe I should just go ahead and start running CVS on this box
06:43.04file[laptop]gah that's a media player
06:43.14scanlimefile[laptop]: ?
06:43.49file[laptop]I thought I saw a STB on some store I visit every now and then... but it was just a D-Link DSM-320 Media Player thingy-ma-bob
06:43.58scanlimeuh
06:44.00scanlimethat's a STB
06:44.14file[laptop]not quite my definition of an STB
06:44.17scanlime?
06:44.26scanlimeare you thinking PVR?
06:44.28scanlime:P
06:44.31file[laptop]yes
06:44.36file[laptop]but it's 3:44AM so I can do that.
06:45.00file[laptop]that's silly, no OGG
06:45.18scanlimehah. I reboot, and I get the same illegal instruction error
06:45.35scanlimesomething in my init scripts seems to be screwing it up. maybe I have multiple copies of the nvidia module
06:45.50scanlimeno...
06:45.51scanlimehmm
06:46.32purple_cowscanlime: i'm sure we'll run into plenty of uglyness stuff in freevo2 during the next 9 months that we'll have to rewrite ;)
06:46.51scanlimeyeah.. I mostly just want incremental loading
06:46.55scanlimeI should never have to wait on the UI
06:47.35scanlimestart loading the directory in a separate thread, let me cancel at any time, maybe even render previews on-the-fly like nautilus does
06:47.46purple_cowi think they're moving towards a db-based system in 2
06:47.52scanlimebah
06:47.58purple_cowwhat's wrong with that? :P
06:48.37scanlimewhat's the point?
06:48.44purple_cowit's fast
06:48.48scanlimeit will just be something else to index, something else to break...
06:48.55scanlimethat depends on the kind of queries you need to make
06:49.11scanlimeI just want to be able to browse a tree- which the filesystem is great at
06:49.21scanlimethrow in a file metaadata cache and it should be plenty fast
06:49.34purple_cowof course, i'm basing that entire statement on titles of 2 mailing list posts and one directory name
06:49.56scanlimeI think freevo is way more complicated than it really needs to be
06:51.00scanlimeoookay... ubuntu is really starting to hurt more than it's helping
06:51.15purple_cowheh
06:51.22scanlimeneed a reacent mplayer and xine, need this to stop eating my kernel!
06:51.56scanlimeand here I thought I could watch a movie with my soon-to-be-pizza...
06:52.10scanlimehmm
06:52.15scanlimemust remember to save xorg.conf :)
06:53.15purple_cowmmm kernel
06:55.25scanlimeyep
06:55.44numistyay for shoutcast
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06:56.40scanlimemmm.. big screen gentoo install
06:56.55darth_mallhehe
07:03.14scanlimedebian is so far behind in media...
07:04.42scanlimepurple_cow: which problem exactly were you having?
07:05.20purple_cowscanlime: an oops if i used freevo to do things
07:05.31purple_cowworked fine with cmdline tools
07:05.43purple_cowon 2.6.12-gentoo-r9
07:07.16purple_cowdoubt it was the same crash
07:07.21scanlimewhich oops? for me there was a pretty distinctive ASSERT immediately before the oops... I can dig it up
07:07.49purple_cowscanlime: i don't have it handy. at the time all i wanted to do was watch a movie
07:07.59scanlimenod
07:08.30scanlimeit's times like this when a hardware DVD player would be handy...
07:10.49scanlimewhich modules?
07:11.48purple_cowASSERTION FAILED index >= 0 at /tmp/unionfs-1.0.13/unionfs_debugmacros.h:340 (__dtohd_index) called by /tmp/unionfs-1.0.13/dentry.c:209 (unionfs_d_release)
07:11.56purple_cowlooks like it's still broken
07:12.20scanlimeahh... yes, that's the one
07:12.31scanlimeseems to easy to trigger, yet google found little on it
07:12.46purple_cowoh, i just need nvidia and lirc and unionfs and all that other stuff
07:13.06scanlimeI haven't been hitting it via the shell, but knfsd and smbd both cause the oops
07:13.44scanlimeI've been toying with the idea of doing the unioning some other way again...
07:13.50purple_cowoh?
07:14.06darth_mallvoodoo?
07:14.18darth_mallcuz that would be cool
07:14.23purple_cowindeedy
07:14.36scanlimewell, it would be nice if the entire UI on the media player followed the MVC pattern, and the model was a filesystem-like hierarchy
07:14.50scanlimeso at the very top you have video, then movies, etc.
07:15.22scanlimethe cool part is that you could mount lots of different things into this hierarchy- devices created by uvswitch, parts of filesystems...
07:15.47scanlimeand this view would support union mounts
07:16.03scanlimeso you could, say, mount /warzok/disk/*/media/video onto /video in the media player's filesystem
07:16.44scanlimesince this virtual filesystem would exactly follow the menus, each video would actually be named using its display name, and it would have child items with things like a summary, its URI on disk or on the network, etc.
07:17.01scanlimethen there would be separate views that actually render and navigate a menu based on this data
07:17.24scanlimefreevo is kinda gravitating toward a system like this, but it's doing it in kind of an ad-hoc way IMHO
07:18.28scanlimethe really neat part is that it really would be an event driven MVC system- so changes in the filesystem (either from some VFS plugin, from [id]notify...) would show up instantly in the GUI
07:18.36scanlimeand directories could always be loaded incrementally
07:19.29darth_mallpoke it good and hard!
07:19.49scanlimewill do
07:19.56scanlimehah.. the livecd has a nice big ramdisk
07:24.57scanlimeI want a funroll-loops.org t-shirt
07:27.45purple_cowscanlime: well, if you've written the backend for a media player, we'll do the UI ;-)
07:29.34scanlime:)
07:30.26scanlimeI'm really intrigued by the VFS/MVC idea
07:30.33scanlimemight have to try that tonight/tomorrow...
07:31.15scanlimewould probably want to use Twisted to make sure everything stays asynchronous
07:31.22scanlimethen have a separate thread pool for I/O
07:31.41scanlimeyes.....
07:33.02scanlimeor maybe not twisted. I want simple, dead simple
07:33.09scanlimeI don't need twisted, I just need an AIO threadpool
07:47.49numistnullpuppy: enjoying homebrewing? :)
13:14.19CIA-5autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog TODO makeinstaller package): Add back the .x86 suffix for 1.0 packages, and fix a bug whereby fifos were not deleted by the package command
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15:56.40Caela la la
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16:29.42CIA-5autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog package share/apkg-funclib):
16:29.42CIA-5autopackage: * package, share/apkg-funclib: make uninstallPackage use the FE protocol
16:29.42CIA-5autopackage:  directly and eliminate usage of _packageReturnCode. Fixes problem with
16:29.42CIA-5autopackage:  FE just quitting if there is an issue uninstall a package on installation
16:29.42CIA-5autopackage:  of new version.
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17:22.36filehrm
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17:29.13CIA-5autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-funclib share/apkg-io):
17:29.13CIA-5autopackage: Mon Sep 5 18:30:01 2005 Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
17:29.13CIA-5autopackage:  * share/apkg-funclib, share/apkg-io: Fix some simple quoting bugs.
17:29.33fileCae!!!
17:31.36Caelol
17:32.29Caeit wasn't me, I didn't do it!
17:33.09filepfft - a likely story!
17:40.39lurgyhi Cae
17:40.55fileand there's a lurgy here too, that's scary
17:41.11Caeyeah, the world might esplode
17:43.06filedo I dare crash this box again...
17:43.16lurgyboom
17:43.24Caesure, what's the worst that could happen?
17:43.41filenothing, I'll just log into the APC and restart it
17:43.53filesweet crashed it
17:44.41filethe hard drive in it is toast
17:44.49lurgywell i guess that answers that question
17:44.49fileif you hit certain sectors it freaks out
17:44.50Caelol
17:45.52fileNFS!
17:45.58filethe NFS mount, sweet... good idea
17:55.51Sophie197'nap time?
17:56.50filenah
17:56.54Sophie197oh god, I need a game to play.
17:57.29Sophie197even music is boring me.
17:58.51file[laptop]here, play with this
17:59.43Sophie197oops, no e!
18:00.30Sophie197english is such a stupid language.
18:02.02file[laptop]silly Sophie
18:11.29Sophie197okay
18:11.44Sophie197take the words pot, tat, and to
18:12.38Sophie197add them together and you get potato
18:12.54Sophie197and it doesn't sound anything like those original words.
18:15.21Sophie197maybe I'm just being dumb. I kindof feel like my brain is leaking.
18:16.12file[laptop]well I don't see it coming out of your ear
18:16.40Sophie197maybe it's Florida finally getting to me.
18:17.06Sophie197everyone here is dumb. Either it's something in the water or the heat kills brain cells.
18:17.55Sophie197on the plus side, ignorance is bliss, right?
18:18.04file[laptop]sure!
18:18.22Sophie197maybe I'll start liking pop music, and become a religious patriot.
18:21.18scanlimehmmmmmm
18:23.22darth_mallyay for my xchat-gnome working again
18:26.30purple_cowwhat was the problem?
18:27.01darth_malldunno
18:27.27darth_mallthere was a gtk+-2.8.3-r1 that I updated to today, then I did a clean checkout and rebuilt and voila
18:27.47darth_mallI hate it when things get fixed that way but at least it's fixed
18:33.21scanlimeI hate this laptop
18:33.24darth_mall><
18:33.33scanlimethe power cable is always coming loose, and when it's on battery power the keyboard doesn't work
18:34.58purple_cowmmm. the decemberists have such l33t rhym1ng sk1llz
18:39.11lurgySophie197: i dunno, florida water is pretty nasty..
19:14.50numistwords cannot really tell how much I love the BBC : "Amidst the horror, American broadcast journalism just might have grown its spine back, thanks to Katrina."
19:16.49purple_cowit's been slowly regrowing a spine
19:17.11purple_cowjust because it's been so easy with karl rove and katrina and everything else
19:18.08numistwell, because the ball was so obviously dropped
19:18.19numistif they didnt point it out the viewers would know they were spineless
19:18.28numistif they didnt already^^
19:31.57darth_mallI am very fond of having my own laundry machine ^^
19:33.32scanlimehehe
19:33.34scanlime"Your contract when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots [advertisements]. … Any time you skip a commercial … you're actually stealing the programming," asserts Turner Broadcasting CEO Jamie Kellner. He admits that "there's a certain amount of tolerance" for going to the bathroom during commercials.
19:34.08scanlimethe obvious conclustion here is that only criminals go to the bathroom
19:52.43scanlimewow... wasabi is way too slow to really run xine's music visualizaition at full speed
19:52.52scanlimestill looks faster than itunes on the worlds fastest desktop computer though
19:53.02purple_cowhehe
19:53.22scanlimeif only this used opengl acceleration rather than doing all this blurring and such in software
19:53.34scanlimethis geforce 6200 has got to be faster at pretty much anything than my old athlon :P
19:53.46purple_cowhehe
19:54.21scanlimeso there's this lonely empty corner between my bedroom and the living room
19:54.42scanlimeI think it might be a good place to put computers, and have them acoustically shielded from both my bedroom and the living room
19:55.17scanlimemight end up putting wasabi over there, and just giving it long component, audio, and USB cables
19:55.21scanlimewith a USB DVD drive :)
19:55.28darth_mall^^
19:56.04scanlimethis would look really cool at about 4x the frame rate...
19:56.20numisthehe
20:05.41CIA-5navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8855 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: Apply Claessens Xavier's patch to fix a couple of lurgy's memory leaks
20:06.28scanlimeooh
20:06.30scanlimehttp://xmms-projectm.sourceforge.net/
20:06.33scanlimeam going to have to try that
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20:10.00nullpuppyowww.. my upper arm just below my sholder is all bruised
20:10.22numistum, I'll bite, why?
20:10.33nullpuppywent shooting :)
20:11.36nullpuppyfired off a couple dozen shells in a 12 guage (both pump action and flip open)
20:12.19numisthope you know how to hold them things
20:12.24nullpuppyyup
20:12.40nullpuppyfirst time ever shooting one though :)
20:12.42numistmuahaha http://numist.net/gallery/phpGalFunnies/hum_this
20:12.49numistnullpuppy: some of em kick like mules
20:12.49nullpuppymost i've fired before was only a 22
20:13.01nullpuppydepends on the ammo
20:13.35numistyep
20:41.24numist:(
20:43.10nullpuppy:(
20:44.19kergothbleh, 242 albums i need to do tag/name fixups on
20:46.58purple_cowthat's a lot of albums
20:47.14numistwow, yeah
20:47.16kergothits so time consuming
20:48.09darth_mallyay! Corpse Bride!
20:48.22nullpuppyyat
20:48.23numistyay!
20:48.25nullpuppyyay
20:48.28numistwhen is htat out?
20:48.37numistall Ive heard is 'september'
20:51.28scanlimeyay
20:52.56nullpuppysept 16 in selected cities, spet 23 nationwide
20:53.01numisthmm
20:53.06nullpuppyaccording to time burtoncollective.com
20:53.07numistdamn, Ill be out of town
20:53.13nullpuppy*timburtoncollective.com rather...
20:53.21numistoh well, I guess Ill take carrie to see it halloween-time
20:53.35numistbleh, Im all outta money too, this SF trip is going to be tight :/
20:53.46nullpuppy:(
20:54.03numistwhat kind of tax would the DMV charge for a car?
20:54.08numist7% in CA?
20:54.13numisth
20:54.16darth_mallyay rain!
20:54.41numistbleh, so Ill probably pay $140 in tax to finish off the car purchase stuff...   maybe Ill wait until my next paycheck :/
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20:57.56numistscanlime: you should have got one of these: http://www.io2technology.com/salesinquiry
20:58.12numistimages: http://www.io2technology.com/technology/images
21:05.34kergothow, how depressing
21:05.39kergothif i were to sell my car right now
21:05.42kergoth'i'd take a $5k loss
21:08.00scanlimethat's a car for ya
21:08.07kergoth:\
21:08.09kergothbastards
21:11.17numistscanlime: what do you think...  3-d holographic colour projection? :D
21:11.32scanlimehah
21:11.42scanlimeit's not 3D, AFAICT...
21:11.45scanlimestill
21:11.49scanlimewonder how that works
21:12.02numistscanlime: it supports 3-d, but most inputs only support 2-d, according to the product sheets
21:12.10numistyeah, thats the main thing...   how do I make one :D
21:16.36pagefaulthehe
21:16.41pagefaultare they even shipping those yet?
21:22.44pagefaultHello pagefault,
21:22.45pagefaultWe at World of Warcraft - Warcraft Central would like to wish you a happy birthday today!
21:22.45pagefaultwow
21:22.50pagefaultit's not even my birthday
21:23.16Caelol
21:23.31kergothhah
21:23.31pagefaultone month away :)
21:23.50pagefaultI guess their system clock is off by a month
21:24.10kergothpagefault: http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/wow_sshot45.jpg .. ignore most of the shot, but look at the minimap and its icons
21:24.33pagefaultthat looks pretty good
21:24.42kergothswitched all the addons in the set to use KC_RadialButtons for its minimap icon handling
21:24.54kergothso they're all the same size, shape, and all get their angles set the same way (right click)
21:25.10kergothlittle thing, but it had annoyed me
21:25.13kergothheh
21:25.13pagefaulthehe how long did that take
21:25.19kergothyou dont want to know
21:25.40pagefaultneed to automate it so you can update it :)
21:26.26pagefaulthmm
21:26.26kergothcan update them just fine. my addon set is tracked in svn, and each addon's upstream is stored in a vendor branch. i use svk for merging, so upgrading the modified addons is painless, no lost modfiications.
21:26.30pagefaultslashdot is evading adblock somehow
21:26.31kergoth:P
21:27.19pagefaultah nice :)
21:29.06pagefaulttime to steal some javascript calendar thingy
21:30.54pagefaulti'm ordering my free copy of UNIX services for Windows
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21:32.45purple_cowdarth_mall: care to choose between smrt and wasabi and email bruce?
21:32.58scanlimegave up on threevo already? :P
21:33.12purple_cowhehe
21:33.23purple_cowi ran it up the flagpole, noone saluted
21:33.29scanlime:)
21:33.40pagefaultwow cool
21:33.51pagefaultcinnamon leaf oil is a great defoaming agent
21:34.12scanlimepagefault: you can't cure rabies by treating the symptoms
21:34.25pagefaultyep yep
21:34.34pagefaultI need to get myself some balistics gelatin now
21:34.42scanlimeoh, that
21:34.51purple_cowmost oils are good defoamers
21:40.17pagefaultvmware!
21:43.48scanlimepygame!
21:46.06darth_mallpurple_cow: I'm more in favor of smrt
21:46.27darth_mallwasabi is weird to me since I think of that as scanlime's STB
21:46.40darth_mallbut, it's just a codename, so it's not a big deal ^^
21:47.45purple_cowhttp://www.cs.colorado.edu/~sanders/cs4308/assign/codenames.html
21:47.48scanlimeis smrt going to become a backronym? :)
21:47.48purple_cowbetter move quick!
21:48.00darth_mallsmrt manages residence theatres!
21:48.13darth_mallpurple_cow: smrt is ok?
21:48.18purple_cowno recursive acronyming or i will kick you in the anus
21:48.21darth_mallhehe
21:48.21scanlimehah
21:48.37darth_mallunless we change the acronym everytime we tell someone
21:48.46purple_cowwell, he wants an explaination of the codename
21:48.56darth_mallsmrt: it's czech for death
21:49.10purple_cowthat's an explaination
21:49.53Caeback tomorrow
21:50.07darth_malldid we decide it was pronounce shmeert or smeert?
21:50.16purple_cowi think lurgy said it should be smeert
21:51.24darth_mallany special capitalization?
21:51.36darth_malls/is/has/
21:51.52purple_cowsince it's not spelled ṧmrt
21:52.00pagefaultthe vmware 5.5 windows installer is rediculously slow
21:52.47pagefaultbut I think I know why
21:52.51pagefaultthis laptop has gone to hell already
21:53.00scanlimewoo, I think my freevo is working
21:54.02scanlimethis theme needs much tweaking for 720p...
21:54.13purple_cowthe wasabi theme?
21:54.15scanlimefreevo just stretched it to fit 16:9 :P
21:54.15scanlimeyeah
21:54.18purple_cowow
21:54.30purple_cowhang on, let me commit it
21:54.34purple_cowi cleaned up the source to it a bit
21:54.34scanlimehum?
21:54.37scanlimeah
21:55.43CIA-5navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8856 10wasabi/skins/ (wasabi-calm.fxd wasabi.fxd): yay clean
21:55.45darth_mallpurple_cow: e-mail sent
21:56.10darth_mall^^
21:56.29purple_cowwoo! my paranoia book should come tomorrow :)
21:56.33darth_mallneat
21:59.21purple_cow<Tack> Good idea.  It should say "Freevo Webserver" in tiny letters.  Just gimp that and scale it down to 16x16 -- should look fine.
21:59.26purple_cowarg, missed the first line
21:59.31darth_mallheh
21:59.33purple_cow<rshortt> hey I think we need a favicon.ico for Freevo webserver.
21:59.44pagefaultawesome
21:59.50pagefaultmy WS 5.5 serial has expired
22:01.48CIA-5smrt: 03jupiter * r6 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: use new codename
22:02.08purple_cowcool :)
22:03.25scanlimeso that's pronounced "smeert"?
22:03.49purple_cowyep
22:05.04pagefaultbah
22:05.06pagefaultok thats better
22:06.49pagefaultI hate windows file sharing
22:06.54pagefaultwindows file sharing never works
22:07.06scanlimeheh
22:07.32pagefaultyeah it works when you have a linux/windows combo
22:07.34pagefaultbut never windows/windows
22:08.28scanlimeeven works ok with linux/linux :P
22:10.00pagefaulthehe
22:10.05pagefaultok finally copying my vmware images over :)
22:13.37purple_cowhmm
22:13.57purple_cowi wonder how much time could be saved on freevo startup if a lot of these imports were deferred
22:49.07nullpuppy<PROTECTED>
22:49.37nullpuppyhttp://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/Homebrew/Weissbier/Bottling_Day/
22:50.03nullpuppyand, http://gallery.nulldomain.com/v/Photography/PAX2005/ which will be up in about an hour or so
22:51.13kergotheh
22:51.25kergothanyone recall what fucking .vimrc the windows gvim build loads?
22:51.33kergoththat is, where i put it
22:52.21nullpuppydunno :/
22:52.25kergothhrm
22:52.36nullpuppybeen ages since i've used gvim, don't think i've used it on windows
22:52.49kergothi use it constantly, no notepad :P
22:52.51nullpuppystupid upload needs to go faster so I can upload pax stuff
22:52.53nullpuppyhehe
22:52.57kergothhrm
22:53.20nullpuppyi don't do enough personal windows administration to care
22:53.35kergothhehe
22:53.55nullpuppyyay, bottling day pictures are up, now to take care of pax
22:54.13numisthahaha I filled my gas tank today
22:54.14numist$15
22:54.20numistrawk \m/
22:54.31nullpuppyyou suck :(
22:54.42nullpuppy$15 only fills my civic half way now :(
22:55.07numistnullpuppy: well, it wasnt fully empty...  Ive got a 'civic' too
22:55.29nullpuppyah! ok :)
22:55.52nullpuppyok, pax 2005 pictures are going up, 335 total, could take a while :)
22:56.04numist:)
22:56.10numisthows the null lager turning out?
22:56.30nullpuppypretty well, altough this batch isn't a lager, next one might be though :)
22:56.42numist;)
22:56.44nullpuppywe tried some yesterday during the bottling process, tasted good
22:56.46numistI want some :D
22:56.50nullpuppyi think the final product will be great :)
22:57.08nullpuppy:) you should grab chippy and scanlime and come up in a couple weeks  :)
22:57.42numistwhere are you located?
22:58.28numistwe'll have to take scanlime's car if its the three of us
22:59.04pagefaultoh well
22:59.08pagefaultOS X doesn't work too hot on WS 5.5 beta
23:01.28nullpuppynumist: a little north of Seattle :)
23:01.54numistnullpuppy: jeez, Ive got a lot of people to visit up there now...
23:02.08pagefaultI want to port stuff
23:02.10numistcheers, juan, captainshonor, ogre, nullpuppy, sheesh
23:03.11file[laptop]lots of smiley faces
23:03.33nullpuppynumist: hehe :)
23:04.08numistnullpuppy: wait till I have gas money..  despite driving a really efficient car now, I need to save some monies
23:04.39nullpuppyno prob, I'll make more after this batch is done with anyways.  possibly sooner if I can get funds for more bottles
23:04.48numisthmm..  I should go get a wrench for my oil filter...  its a size I normally dont use
23:04.51nullpuppybut anyways, I need to head out..
23:04.51numistdamn new cars
23:04.56numistlater
23:04.56nullpuppyhehe, yeah
23:05.18scanlimeI'm not looking forward to doing any road trips with these gas prices
23:05.37purple_cowhaha
23:05.47purple_cowi'm guessing that "MoBrow3D" is a codename bruce thought up
23:05.59purple_cowfor "3D Model Browser and Import/Export Plug-In"
23:06.09scanlimehah
23:06.24scanlimeyou should have chosen GEEK as your codename :P
23:06.25nullpuppy|Outgah, lots of pictures... on 72/335 oh well..
23:06.29nullpuppy|Outenjoy :) /me waves
23:06.45purple_cowscanlime: hehe
23:06.49scanlimeyay! wasabi is less unbearably loud now! found a much nicer case fan for it
23:07.02scanlimeand it helps to point the back of the computer away from the TV
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23:55.17pagefault-VMhaha
23:55.20pagefault-VMzsnes runs funny in vmware
23:56.24filestupid customers
23:56.34file"We've had this problem and it's been occuring for a while..."
23:56.47filewell why didn't you email/call... ugh
23:57.23scanlimepagefault: funny?
23:57.31pagefault-VMyeah the timer is all whacked
23:59.10purple_cowdarth_mall: someone needs to email the guys at sun to tell them we're doing their project
23:59.40darth_mallok

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