| 00:02.50 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 00:03.02 | purple_cow | scanlime: hmm. maybe you could do that just as a new plugin for freevo |
| 00:03.28 | scanlime | purple_cow: doubt it, from what I've seen its entire menu architecture is synchronous |
| 00:03.46 | scanlime | adding/removing single items isn't cheap at all |
| 00:03.53 | purple_cow | ah |
| 00:04.27 | numist | buahaha I qualify for a good driver discount |
| 00:04.30 | numist | be very afraid |
| 00:04.41 | scanlime | I guess what I'm saying is that there really isn't any part of freevo that I actually like, just a lot I've been willing to deal with so far :P |
| 00:05.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8864 10motion/py/Dance/Sequence.py: I think that about does it for the _Frame class. |
| 00:05.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8865 10motion/py/Dance/ODE.py: The solver should return, not store the result. |
| 00:06.25 | scanlime | purple_cow: this method I'm thinking of would also involve storing a *lot* less in memory for each directory entry |
| 00:06.43 | scanlime | basically you'd just need one pretty lightweight object that just has the item's name and anything else you need for sorting purposes |
| 00:06.55 | scanlime | all other metadata would only be opened when the item was visible onscreen, or about to be visible |
| 00:07.31 | scanlime | I don't think there's any way to avoid keeping at least the sorting info in-core for an entire directory, unless we'd ludicrously expect backends to do all the sorting |
| 00:07.51 | scanlime | this also means we could have live-search backends :) |
| 00:14.24 | scanlime | hah. The first bug I was assigned here is finally closed :P |
| 00:20.20 | purple_cow | read 'em and weep, mon! blah |
| 00:20.56 | scanlime | this kernel is taking forever to compile, blah! |
| 00:25.13 | kergoth | scanlime: do you know if theres a (preferably userspace) unioned filesystem that lets you control/switch the algorithm used to select which element of the union gets new files? (i.e. round robin, weighted round robin based on disk sizes, etc) |
| 00:26.41 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 00:26.55 | scanlime | kergoth: that was my plan for spreadfs :P |
| 00:26.59 | kergoth | oh |
| 00:27.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:27.11 | kergoth | i was thinking about it for my archives now that i'm getting some new drives |
| 00:27.16 | kergoth | i dont want raid, since if you lose one drive you lose it all |
| 00:27.21 | kergoth | i'd rather at least keep some of it |
| 00:27.26 | scanlime | nod.. |
| 00:27.34 | kergoth | anyway, let me know if you want a hand :) |
| 00:27.36 | scanlime | I didn't think such a thing existed, which was why I started spreadfs |
| 00:27.45 | scanlime | well, I doubt I'll do anything more on spreadfs :P |
| 00:27.54 | kergoth | well then |
| 00:27.55 | kergoth | wheres the code? |
| 00:27.56 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:27.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:27.57 | scanlime | my current plan is to do the unioning as part of this media center backend |
| 00:27.59 | scanlime | kergoth: navi-misc |
| 00:28.02 | kergoth | k |
| 00:28.22 | scanlime | it's very slow, and currently it's read-only |
| 00:28.46 | scanlime | 50% CPU load on a 1GHz machine to saturate 100baseT |
| 00:29.18 | kergoth | wowie |
| 00:29.37 | kergoth | well, i need something, and if nothing else exists, i'll improve that |
| 00:30.47 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 00:30.51 | purple_cow | yay for obscene puppets |
| 00:31.30 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 00:31.35 | darth_mall | are you watching GtB? |
| 00:32.25 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 00:32.29 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 00:33.17 | purple_cow | all the cool kids were doing it |
| 00:33.29 | purple_cow | plus i needed to fix all the names on them |
| 00:35.10 | purple_cow | i love ashtrays! |
| 00:35.21 | darth_mall | hehehehe |
| 00:35.24 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 00:35.27 | scanlime | the green ones make me horny |
| 00:35.46 | scanlime | purple_cow: fix all the names on mine too :) |
| 00:37.05 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'll give you a list of md5s when i'm done :P |
| 00:37.16 | scanlime | :) |
| 00:38.13 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 00:38.16 | scanlime | just thought of something |
| 00:38.36 | scanlime | with this backend's async loading and unioning and such, you could add remote media collections (like fembot) to your local tree |
| 00:39.05 | scanlime | they could show up with their usual metadata, but instead of playing they'd download to the local machine in the background if you chose to |
| 00:39.30 | scanlime | or maybe it could stream if it detects you have bandwidth to :) |
| 00:39.55 | scanlime | that kind of behaviour might be handy even for local media servers, if you're trying to view something really high quality on a wireless link |
| 00:40.54 | darth_mall | is "heart attack" one word or two? |
| 00:41.03 | scanlime | 2 |
| 00:41.27 | kergoth | http://invaders.mars-attacks.org/~boklm/copyfs/ /.. heh, cute |
| 00:41.45 | kergoth | erm, s/\/\.\./../ |
| 00:42.11 | scanlime | alright! my vm oops'ed inside inotify |
| 00:42.29 | ChipX86 | yay! ? |
| 00:43.19 | scanlime | kergoth: ugh.. I really hate the idea of doing version control inside the FS for some reason |
| 00:45.06 | kergoth | ooh, http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/btfs.php is neat |
| 00:45.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:46.48 | scanlime | poing. |
| 00:47.05 | scanlime | hmm, it's about quittin' time isn't it |
| 00:47.09 | darth_mall | yay for easy UI Design homework |
| 00:47.11 | ChipX86 | yeah :~( |
| 00:47.16 | scanlime | :~~~~~~( |
| 00:47.16 | ChipX86 | I don't want to quit now |
| 00:47.19 | darth_mall | and yay for having a user story where the user dies of a heart attack |
| 00:47.27 | ChipX86 | but I have two e-mails that might take a day or two that I need to wait for |
| 00:47.32 | kergoth | scanlime: hey check out http://ian.blenke.com/blog/projects/cornfs/cornfs.html |
| 00:47.47 | kergoth | scanlime: it looks like its almost what we need, only its designed for remote locations rather than local drives |
| 00:47.57 | kergoth | but i see no reason it couldnt do both, and just make the algorithm pluggable |
| 00:48.41 | scanlime | unionfs wasn't exactly designed for local use either, it's an NFS server |
| 00:48.48 | scanlime | er, spreadfs |
| 00:50.15 | kergoth | hm, yeah, cornfs looks pretty slick |
| 00:50.42 | scanlime | the thing is, I really want the unioning aspect separate from the actual data path of the filesystem |
| 00:51.08 | scanlime | with this event-driven FS I have in mind, it only affects directory traversal and file metadata- in the end, you can get a URI for each file and pull the data out directly |
| 00:53.11 | numist | anyone seen gmaps lately? |
| 00:53.15 | numist | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans&ll=29.981907,-90.029912&spn=0.003730,0.004892&t=e&hl=en |
| 00:53.23 | numist | new button - 'Katrina' |
| 00:53.38 | scanlime | yeah |
| 00:53.42 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 00:54.02 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 00:54.12 | scanlime | it's just nuts switching between normal satellite view and the post-katrina images |
| 00:54.16 | ChipX86 | that's really sad |
| 00:54.20 | scanlime | google also has a lot of Google Earth overlays :( |
| 00:54.29 | numist | click the satelite button to see what it used to look like |
| 00:54.35 | numist | the katrina button has better zoom capabilities |
| 00:55.25 | scanlime | oh wow, you can see where the levee broke |
| 00:55.29 | scanlime | well, one of I'm sure many |
| 00:55.34 | ChipX86 | someone must trigger the tacobeam <-> fun-list bridge |
| 00:56.10 | scanlime | you just need to write funlistfs and ircfs and use rsync |
| 00:56.20 | scanlime | 'cuz everything needs to be a weird-ass filesystem driver |
| 00:56.41 | ChipX86 | google maps is incredible |
| 00:57.27 | *** join/#tacobeam brc_ (n=brc@pdpc/supporter/basic/brc) |
| 01:02.06 | scanlime | great. now my ubuntu VM is crashing hard any time I unplug a USB device |
| 01:02.12 | scanlime | what's wrong with this kernel I just built? |
| 01:06.45 | ChipX86 | numist: it's coming. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. |
| 01:08.08 | numist | I need more tinfoil |
| 01:08.28 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:12.05 | ChipX86 | numist: it's a good thing. Don't fight it. |
| 01:12.33 | numist | :( |
| 01:13.06 | ChipX86 | I'm just hyper and bounc |
| 01:13.08 | ChipX86 | bouncy |
| 01:13.49 | ChipX86 | I love my manager |
| 01:13.55 | ChipX86 | "Well, IT are bastards." |
| 01:16.18 | numist | Jocelyn? |
| 01:16.22 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (i=Veight@c-24-118-220-75.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 01:16.32 | Veight | helo |
| 01:16.33 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah |
| 01:16.49 | numist | sounds like a good manager :) |
| 01:16.56 | ChipX86 | she is |
| 01:17.09 | ChipX86 | and something wonderful just happened |
| 01:18.12 | nullpuppy | i'm scared |
| 01:18.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:18.59 | nullpuppy | god damn stupid fscking code |
| 01:19.05 | nullpuppy | work damn you, work! |
| 01:21.37 | purple_cow | "bam! i grazed him on the chin!" "and i grabbed him by the nuts!" "that's what they're there for" "and i didn't let go until the police came!" "that's pretty good for a guy with no thumbs" |
| 01:22.06 | nullpuppy | ... |
| 01:23.06 | purple_cow | what a great show |
| 01:24.06 | numist | ..? |
| 01:24.30 | numist | ChipX86: ok, since no one else will ask, Ill bite... whats so wonderful that just happened? |
| 01:24.53 | purple_cow | numist: greg the bunny |
| 01:25.00 | ChipX86 | numist: pfft, I can't tell you that |
| 01:25.03 | purple_cow | yet another great show that got put in the fox timeslot of doom |
| 01:25.11 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yep :(( |
| 01:25.25 | numist | ChipX86: :( I agreed to the nda though :) |
| 01:26.30 | ChipX86 | numist: patience, you'll find out soon enough. Mwahaha. |
| 01:26.36 | numist | :( |
| 01:26.50 | nullpuppy | this have to do with your mysterious idea that spawned something evil? |
| 01:27.12 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 01:27.17 | nullpuppy | yay |
| 01:27.49 | nullpuppy | this something thats going into ws5.5 or something? |
| 01:28.01 | ChipX86 | I can't tell you! |
| 01:28.14 | nullpuppy | so, thats a yes, ok :) |
| 01:28.29 | ChipX86 | it's not something we're putting into ws5.5 |
| 01:28.33 | nullpuppy | oh, ok |
| 01:28.38 | numist | oh he just told you! |
| 01:28.41 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 01:28.45 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 01:29.24 | nullpuppy | this is making my brain hurt, stupid code needs to behave |
| 01:29.35 | nullpuppy | or crash so i can track down the fscking problem |
| 01:31.04 | purple_cow | these are trying times, and it's time we tried to triumph! |
| 01:40.33 | purple_cow | instead of stabbing him in the back, why don't you try showing him some support ...in the front? |
| 01:52.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (11 files in 8 dirs): |
| 01:52.09 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add saving of world files in text. |
| 01:52.09 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add std file save to app |
| 02:03.39 | laodamas | when assembling schivnarr, it is best to be two people |
| 02:09.33 | darth_mall | aww |
| 02:09.36 | darth_mall | no slimspace |
| 02:09.52 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (inc/world.h src/world.cpp): intent on save, with some generic indent rules for unknown items |
| 02:13.45 | Sophie197 | 24 days till serenity. |
| 02:13.56 | nullpuppy | yay! |
| 02:14.13 | laodamas | that sounds strangely apocalyptic |
| 02:14.34 | Sophie197 | yay apocalypse. |
| 02:16.01 | darth_mall | Sophie197: ^^ |
| 02:16.50 | Sophie197 | or else die. Either way, it'll be a change of pace. |
| 02:17.26 | Sophie197 | no more walmart :) |
| 02:18.15 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 02:18.17 | darth_mall | hippy commune |
| 02:18.28 | darth_mall | where bathing is not even optional |
| 02:20.07 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
| 02:20.16 | ChipX86 | NetFlix is now sending me both discs of a video at once |
| 02:20.22 | ChipX86 | it used to be you get one and then the other |
| 02:20.24 | ChipX86 | I think |
| 02:21.02 | scanlime | nullpuppy: I need a firefly poster... |
| 02:21.43 | nullpuppy | scanlime: hehe, i'm trying to get more from the friend that got it for me for people at work |
| 02:22.30 | scanlime | =D |
| 02:22.38 | darth_mall | hahah! "we cleaned both sides of this puppy with toilet tissue." |
| 02:22.43 | darth_mall | great commercial |
| 02:22.58 | scanlime | so this puppy was flat? |
| 02:23.24 | darth_mall | nope |
| 02:23.31 | darth_mall | perfectly normal golden retriever puppy |
| 02:23.40 | darth_mall | apparently it only has two sides |
| 02:23.46 | darth_mall | and apparently wet, then dry paper cleans better |
| 02:25.52 | scanlime | my god... |
| 02:26.02 | scanlime | I could probably run 100 amps through this component video cable I just bought |
| 02:36.21 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (inc/world.h src/world.cpp): start parsing real world objects |
| 02:44.36 | purple_cow | oh wow, i hadn't seen this episode |
| 02:46.32 | scanlime | Stop eating our young! And it's pronounced "guacamole!" |
| 02:46.46 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 02:52.09 | scanlime | you must have smoked some bad granola! |
| 02:59.42 | purple_cow | eugene levy is so great at those deadpan jokes |
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| 03:05.16 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8866 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: Add Ctrl-Alt-PgUp/PgDown to the discussion navigation accelerators. |
| 03:06.51 | darth_mall | Eugene Levy is hilarious. Too bad most of his movies suck so loudly =\ |
| 03:07.25 | purple_cow | uh, not my problem. talk to limp brisket over there |
| 03:07.32 | darth_mall | haha |
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| 03:15.53 | darth_mall | oh noes |
| 03:16.01 | darth_mall | someone is making a Magnificent 7 TV show |
| 03:16.05 | purple_cow | this time they were singing some happy song, and then it got all dark and unpleasant, like an andrew lloyd weber musical |
| 03:19.46 | purple_cow | <jimmy> you smell nice, what's that scent you're wearing? <susan> scotch-guard |
| 03:19.49 | purple_cow | what a great show :) |
| 03:24.39 | purple_cow | oh, please. what would he want with a hairless two-breasted woman when he could have all *this* ?! |
| 03:27.29 | scanlime | hmm! |
| 03:29.46 | scanlime | I can still hear it, but it's no louder than my fridge now |
| 03:35.11 | darth_mall | hear what? wasabi? |
| 03:35.18 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/micahs-tv/p1010170 |
| 03:35.19 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/micahs-tv/p1010171 |
| 03:35.20 | scanlime | yeah |
| 03:35.40 | scanlime | that thing that looks like a 50 amp industrial grade power cord is the video cable :P |
| 03:36.13 | purple_cow | scanlime: crazy |
| 03:36.22 | file[laptop] | scanlime: geek. |
| 03:36.34 | scanlime | still gotta decide if I actually like this solution.. if so I'll find a bookcase or rack of some kind to put all that stuff in |
| 03:38.53 | darth_mall | scanlime: that is so pretty |
| 03:39.49 | scanlime | darth_mall: it's missing some key pieces of furniture ;) |
| 03:40.03 | numist | scanlime: plasma or lcd? |
| 03:40.06 | scanlime | and freevo looks really kludgey scaled to 16:9 |
| 03:40.07 | scanlime | plasma |
| 03:40.21 | numist | hehe |
| 03:40.32 | numist | fair enough |
| 03:40.33 | darth_mall | scanlime: yeah, but that tv is super sexy |
| 03:40.37 | purple_cow | freevo looks really kludgey scaled to anything |
| 03:40.40 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:40.41 | scanlime | yes |
| 03:41.07 | numist | /clear |
| 03:41.10 | scanlime | darth_mall: prices are still dropping pretty madly.. just wait til circuit city has another sale |
| 03:41.14 | darth_mall | but it will be at least one more year before I even get to think about a job that pays me that well |
| 03:41.17 | scanlime | numist: it definitely won't |
| 03:41.29 | scanlime | I had some crazy delusion of getting it home in my car |
| 03:41.32 | numist | scanlime: I have a really small car... I probably couldnt fit my 13" tv in the trunk |
| 03:41.32 | darth_mall | scanlime: even on sale I bet that's out of my price range right now |
| 03:41.42 | scanlime | but it's much heavier than it looks, and the box it came in was about 3 feet wide |
| 03:41.48 | numist | yikes |
| 03:41.48 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 03:41.57 | scanlime | darth_mall: probably.. with tax and delivery this ended up costing me just a few dollars over $2000 |
| 03:41.58 | darth_mall | sounds like my dad's 30" monitor |
| 03:42.08 | numist | woof, man |
| 03:42.17 | numist | thats almost as much as I make in an entire month |
| 03:42.26 | purple_cow | dat's junction jack's dwessing room, and dat's the wall, and dat's...eeeeeee.....it's a turtle! |
| 03:42.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:42.34 | numist | then again, Im not working for money, Im working for the hope that this lil company makes it huge |
| 03:42.35 | scanlime | I love that show |
| 03:42.48 | scanlime | numist: nod. I shall have to try that someday |
| 03:43.04 | numist | scanlime: nows the time... theres no point in doing it when you're 30 and need the stability |
| 03:43.10 | darth_mall | s/weel/well/ |
| 03:43.15 | scanlime | numist: I had the opportunity to work for a startup instead of vmware, but I wasn't looking forward to being one of only two developers on a project.. I want some really crazy-smart people to learn from |
| 03:43.26 | numist | thats the other thing, I have better bosses at this place than Ive ever had before, or even heard of before |
| 03:43.45 | scanlime | darth_mall: if you can get in, vmware's awesome.. but they like turning people down :( |
| 03:43.47 | numist | scanlime: that works, I work with 4 crazy smart people |
| 03:43.56 | scanlime | numist: you got lucky then |
| 03:44.00 | numist | yet somehow I still know more about tsql than the rest :o |
| 03:44.05 | numist | yeah, I got real lucky |
| 03:44.16 | scanlime | most small companies I see seem to have some weird business idea and a handful of okayish programmers |
| 03:44.17 | file[laptop] | crazy as a coconut |
| 03:44.18 | numist | and the ceo is a fantastic salesman, so we'll see on Thursday if it's time to throw a party |
| 03:44.19 | darth_mall | scanlime: I doubt very much I could get a job there |
| 03:44.30 | scanlime | darth_mall: :( |
| 03:44.34 | numist | yeah, this is one opportunity I have a lot of faith in |
| 03:44.46 | numist | and I dont have a whole lot of a backup plan, so... yeah |
| 03:44.56 | scanlime | Even with this giant video cable I'm getting a little bit of noise.. bet it's the video card itself :( |
| 03:44.59 | scanlime | nice annoying sync wobble |
| 03:45.01 | file[laptop] | I don't need arms |
| 03:46.22 | scanlime | purple_cow: setups like this are why it's handy to have the mi6k in a separate box :) |
| 03:47.09 | darth_mall | erm... >< |
| 03:47.19 | scanlime | yep, I bet you aren't |
| 03:47.44 | scanlime | woof, star trek looks so blurry |
| 03:47.51 | darth_mall | poor Spock |
| 03:48.35 | scanlime | TNG, sorry :P |
| 03:49.03 | darth_mall | poor Geordi |
| 03:49.11 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:49.35 | scanlime | could be worse.. I could be watching macgyver on this thing |
| 03:49.48 | scanlime | pixels the size of my head! |
| 03:50.21 | darth_mall | Ha! You humans and your puny 3 dimensions |
| 03:50.29 | darth_mall | oh yeah? how many dimensions do you have? |
| 03:50.33 | darth_mall | 5! |
| 03:50.34 | darth_mall | thousand! |
| 03:50.37 | scanlime | :) |
| 03:50.43 | darth_mall | I only see 2 |
| 03:50.49 | darth_mall | sounds like a personal problem to me |
| 03:50.58 | darth_mall | what an awesome episode that was |
| 04:03.47 | scanlime | ooh, trionic waves |
| 04:04.02 | scanlime | "Those look like minute distortions in the space-time continuum!" |
| 04:08.38 | file[laptop] | scanlime: is that the episode where Data lost his head? |
| 04:09.45 | scanlime | yes |
| 04:15.12 | numist | trekkie-nerds! |
| 04:15.23 | numist | I cant beleive you knew what ep that was from that quote :o |
| 04:19.14 | numist | I wonder if my parents still have my old car speakers at home... Id like to make an underwater sound system out of em... |
| 04:19.51 | lurgy | i move for a bad court thingy |
| 04:20.03 | lurgy | that's why you're the judge and i'm the law talkin guy |
| 04:20.23 | purple_cow | hiya lurgy |
| 04:20.51 | lurgy | howdy |
| 04:22.36 | lurgy | b'bye |
| 04:28.12 | scanlime | dance! everybody dance! |
| 04:28.21 | scanlime | yay! |
| 04:28.39 | scanlime | life is good! |
| 04:28.40 | scanlime | this is fun! |
| 04:28.57 | scanlime | :P |
| 04:28.59 | scanlime | there it goes |
| 04:29.19 | scanlime | for the love of god and all that is holy, my anus is bleeding! |
| 04:29.59 | numist | :o |
| 04:31.16 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 04:31.31 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/nikki/chris.and.nikki.013.jpg .. from when she was in town.. my hair is misbehaving, and i'm squinting, but given how unphotogenic i am, thats about as good as it gets |
| 04:32.05 | darth_mall | awww |
| 04:32.08 | darth_mall | kergoth's so cute |
| 04:32.13 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 04:32.20 | darth_mall | kergoth: your last name is larson, yeah? |
| 04:32.39 | darth_mall | have you a relative named Greg? |
| 04:32.46 | darth_mall | he'd be about 23 or 24 now |
| 04:32.51 | scanlime | yep, lookit all that cute |
| 04:32.55 | kergoth | not that i know of, nope |
| 04:32.56 | darth_mall | oh wait... I think I'm getting my gregs confused |
| 04:33.06 | kergoth | larson is an awfully common name, and chris is too damn common too |
| 04:33.26 | darth_mall | but the Greg that looked like you was not Greg Larson |
| 04:33.32 | kergoth | ah. hehe. |
| 04:42.40 | numist | anyone ever seen this?: http://pranked.hopto.org/ |
| 04:48.56 | scanlime | haha |
| 04:49.27 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 04:49.28 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:54.49 | scanlime | damn interlaced video... |
| 04:54.53 | scanlime | I want progressive-scan futurama! |
| 04:55.03 | scanlime | need to figure out how to make xine do smart deinterlacing |
| 04:55.22 | lurgy | there's an option in xine-ui |
| 04:55.24 | lurgy | or there used to be |
| 04:55.36 | lurgy | i thought |
| 04:55.39 | scanlime | there's a deinterlace command line option... /me tests this outside of freevo |
| 04:56.47 | scanlime | hmm, that actually looks pretty good |
| 04:57.13 | scanlime | ew |
| 04:57.14 | scanlime | sometimes... |
| 04:57.29 | scanlime | vertical motion really looks awful still |
| 04:57.35 | scanlime | but it seems to fix horizontal motion |
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| 04:59.03 | nullpuppy | damn it! |
| 04:59.08 | nullpuppy | i almost hadt he chicken quest |
| 04:59.14 | nullpuppy | i had the quest window! |
| 04:59.36 | scanlime | "But you never wore your ring.. I didn't know you had a wife." "And my wife doesn't know I have a job! I keep my personal and professional life separate." |
| 04:59.52 | scanlime | nullpuppy: Chicken Quest VI was always my favorite |
| 05:00.09 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 05:04.14 | kergoth | ack, the world server is down |
| 05:04.17 | nullpuppy | w000t! |
| 05:04.43 | kergoth | flying all over the damn place collecting the maraudon quests |
| 05:04.46 | kergoth | nullpuppy: got the chicken quest? |
| 05:04.51 | scanlime | See, it used to be milk and.. well, time makes fools of us all |
| 05:04.57 | nullpuppy | yeah, on dark iron |
| 05:05.53 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: poke |
| 05:06.08 | file[laptop] | Jan Polet! |
| 05:15.19 | file[laptop] | purple_cow: there's always tomorrow |
| 05:15.52 | purple_cow | that's the plan |
| 05:16.38 | scanlime | D-Bus 0.50 - “You run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it’s sinking” is released |
| 05:18.45 | purple_cow | kergoth: what the hell have you done to your hair? |
| 05:20.11 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:20.26 | darth_mall | it's like a mohawk that is easily disguised as a corporately acceptable haircut |
| 05:20.33 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 05:20.38 | purple_cow | that's what i was thinking |
| 05:20.53 | darth_mall | and it needs to be neon pink |
| 05:21.01 | scanlime | mmm, pink floyd |
| 05:21.23 | scanlime | ugh, I just told freevo to visit images/chaos didn't I... |
| 05:21.26 | scanlime | damn this UI |
| 05:23.17 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:27.32 | darth_mall | dammit Gish is a really good album |
| 05:28.11 | purple_cow | Gish? |
| 05:28.29 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 05:28.32 | darth_mall | Smashing Pumpkins |
| 05:30.12 | scanlime | sweet.. a kernel oops in uhci_hcd |
| 05:30.26 | scanlime | so now the freevo thread that was updating the mi6k is stuck in uninterruptible sleep |
| 05:36.25 | kergoth | purple_cow: hehe. its a somewhat-mohawk (mohawk, but without shaving the sides of the head.. also known as a fohawk, as in, feux-hawk) with red highlights :P |
| 05:36.47 | numist | fauxhawks are odd beasts :) |
| 05:36.49 | kergoth | hmm, i should sleep soon |
| 05:41.34 | file[laptop] | kergoth: noooooooo ... ok |
| 05:45.39 | scanlime | wow.. the color in LOTR is amazing |
| 05:45.44 | scanlime | but xine screws up the aspect ratio |
| 05:45.50 | scanlime | black bars on all sides again :P |
| 05:46.12 | numist | boo |
| 05:46.34 | scanlime | the 'z' key should let you zoom in.. but I need to figure out how to make freevo map that to a remote button :P |
| 05:58.56 | scanlime | ah. irxevent to the rescue |
| 06:03.25 | purple_cow | when in doubt, use irxevent :) |
| 06:04.48 | scanlime | yeah |
| 06:05.06 | scanlime | freevo does not make it at all easy to route commands between lirc and xine other than what it's hardcoded to do |
| 06:08.56 | scanlime | oh wow |
| 06:09.03 | scanlime | the optware feed for the NSLU2 has rsnapshot |
| 06:32.11 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: back |
| 06:44.20 | scanlime | mm, kitchen clean |
| 06:44.39 | scanlime | living room still has a greater and lesser pile-o-crap to remove |
| 06:44.56 | scanlime | I want my coffee table :( |
| 06:45.17 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:45.46 | scanlime | as nice as this cardboard box is.. it's too small |
| 06:48.42 | purple_cow | yay, /opt |
| 06:49.41 | purple_cow | hah, yay fark |
| 06:49.49 | purple_cow | ``Man survives 30-second 2000-volt shock after falling on wire. Maybe some amps also, but everybody knows those don't count for nothin' '' |
| 06:51.22 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:51.26 | scanlime | this milk is dated August 16 |
| 06:51.29 | scanlime | but it tastes fine |
| 06:51.35 | ChipX86 | impossible |
| 06:51.44 | ChipX86 | everybody knows that milk goes bad the day of the expiration date |
| 06:51.50 | scanlime | yup |
| 06:52.05 | scanlime | guess this isn't milk |
| 06:52.12 | ChipX86 | not cow milk anyway |
| 06:52.13 | scanlime | it's the only logical explanation |
| 06:52.22 | scanlime | yep |
| 06:52.32 | scanlime | must be squirrel milk |
| 06:52.38 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 06:52.50 | scanlime | mmm |
| 06:52.55 | scanlime | LOTR looks so good |
| 06:53.06 | ChipX86 | you haven't seen it? |
| 06:53.06 | scanlime | would probably look better if I had a real DVD player... |
| 06:53.10 | ChipX86 | ohh |
| 06:53.13 | ChipX86 | on that tv |
| 06:53.14 | scanlime | ChipX86: no, on my TV I mean |
| 06:53.22 | scanlime | yea. I got xine to cooperate |
| 06:53.24 | scanlime | thanks to irxevent :P |
| 06:53.40 | scanlime | dunno why it doesn't seem to default to the right aspect ratio for DVDs |
| 06:54.05 | scanlime | it's like it's rendering the DVD into a 4:3 letterbox, then scaling that into my 16:9 screen |
| 06:54.08 | scanlime | so I get black on all sides |
| 06:54.13 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 06:54.15 | scanlime | have to tell xine to zoom in manually |
| 06:54.32 | scanlime | I'm just keeping my eye out for a cheap DVD player with DVI output |
| 06:54.44 | scanlime | I should go back to the sunnyvale fry's actually, I think they had a pile of repackaged DVD players on discount... |
| 06:55.08 | scanlime | might be display models, but who cares if it has DVI |
| 06:55.33 | scanlime | I want proof that this TV's DVI input isn't dead, just incredibly picky :) |
| 06:56.23 | scanlime | and this thing was still cheaper than the DVI to HDMI cable :P |
| 06:57.03 | numist | hehe |
| 06:57.13 | numist | Im tired, and I have to be in to work at 6am |
| 06:57.28 | numist | but I cant sleep yet because my mind wont let me... its waiting for carrie to call, but she's not going to tonight |
| 06:57.49 | scanlime | :( |
| 06:58.14 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:01.11 | scanlime | :o( |
| 07:01.18 | scanlime | clown noses cheer people up |
| 07:01.22 | numist | hehe |
| 07:01.31 | numist | doesnt make me anymore likely to sleep though |
| 07:01.39 | numist | 6am work... Im going to die... |
| 07:02.45 | scanlime | damnit |
| 07:02.50 | scanlime | Every time I hear this scene now.. |
| 07:02.57 | scanlime | "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson." |
| 07:03.01 | numist | hehe |
| 07:03.06 | numist | scanlime: I think the same thing! |
| 07:03.29 | scanlime | someone dubbed that into a techno song years ago and it's been stuck in my head ever since |
| 07:03.36 | numist | haha |
| 07:04.05 | ChipX86 | Machinae Supremacy |
| 07:04.10 | scanlime | oh right, that was it |
| 07:04.18 | scanlime | I assumed it was just all that random techno I used to listen to |
| 07:04.18 | ChipX86 | not really techno. It had more of a video game music sound to it |
| 07:04.27 | scanlime | nod. I was misremembering |
| 07:05.37 | numist | hrm, ChipX86 should I call you when I'm in town to figure out when to get fuki on friday? |
| 07:05.38 | ChipX86 | damnit! |
| 07:05.44 | ChipX86 | stupid gnome sysadmins |
| 07:05.49 | ChipX86 | I cannot have a username "chipx86" |
| 07:05.56 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah |
| 07:05.56 | numist | ? |
| 07:06.02 | numist | great |
| 07:06.03 | ChipX86 | Can I have numbers, dashes, or underscores in my account name? |
| 07:06.03 | ChipX86 | No. |
| 07:06.08 | numist | :o |
| 07:06.17 | scanlime | chipxeightysix |
| 07:07.42 | numist | chipcisc |
| 07:07.51 | ChipX86 | has to be chammond |
| 07:07.57 | numist | :( |
| 07:08.06 | scanlime | they won't even give you christian? |
| 07:08.09 | ChipX86 | no |
| 07:08.13 | numist | damn them |
| 07:08.16 | scanlime | :o( |
| 07:08.29 | ChipX86 | policy be damned. That's just stupid |
| 07:11.31 | scanlime | I have micah@vmware.com :P |
| 07:12.03 | numist | Ive got scott@ forwarded, and sperry and scott.perry... yay for aliases |
| 07:12.19 | numist | are you really the first micah there? |
| 07:12.21 | scanlime | yep, that's what I need.. more email addresses |
| 07:12.22 | numist | sweet, man |
| 07:12.26 | ChipX86 | A maintainer must be able to be absolutely sure about who has been committing to his CVS module, and in order to make this feasible, there must be an immediate and very obvious connection between account names and people's full names. People's full names are usually what contributors are identified by on mailing lists and in ?ChangeLogs. |
| 07:12.27 | scanlime | yea, apparently |
| 07:12.31 | ChipX86 | I'm not entirely sure I buy that. |
| 07:12.39 | ChipX86 | more people know me as ChipX86 than Christian Hammond |
| 07:13.07 | numist | ChipX86: the important people know both :) |
| 07:13.26 | scanlime | I want a TV that changes aspect ratio dynamically, using that rollable display stuff |
| 07:14.26 | scanlime | it would have to be OLED though |
| 07:14.48 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 07:14.48 | scanlime | good luck |
| 07:15.03 | ToyKeeper | I wonder how many possible "average" chess games there are. |
| 07:15.26 | ToyKeeper | Like... how many moves there are in a game, generally, and how many possible moves could be made at each step. |
| 07:16.23 | ToyKeeper | I saw somewhere there are an average of 34 moves per game... when combined with a high estimate of 50 possible moves each turn, that gives me 34**50 == 5e57. |
| 07:16.30 | ToyKeeper | I was expecting a bigger number. |
| 07:16.49 | ToyKeeper | That's barely more than the square root of googol. |
| 07:17.24 | ToyKeeper | I'm curious 'cause I was calculating the, uh, problem space... for Go and haiku. |
| 07:17.55 | ToyKeeper | I got about 1e1800 possible games of Go, with more like 1e500 games of typical length. |
| 07:18.17 | ToyKeeper | ... and somewhere around 1e70 - 1e50 possible haiku, including nonsense poems. |
| 07:19.47 | ChipX86 | I don't like the sysadmin people. They seem very.. what's the word.. |
| 07:19.53 | ChipX86 | they act like they're right and there's no room for discussion |
| 07:19.57 | ChipX86 | or questioning |
| 07:20.39 | ToyKeeper | I think it's called religion. |
| 07:21.27 | ToyKeeper | Speaking of which, wanna join my Church of Debian? :) |
| 07:21.33 | ChipX86 | hell no |
| 07:21.39 | scanlime | haha |
| 07:21.40 | ChipX86 | *grumble* |
| 07:21.55 | ChipX86 | wonder how long until they decide to set up my account now :P |
| 07:21.56 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: you're going to remove mplayer and libdvdread from everybody's machine? |
| 07:22.37 | ToyKeeper | Darn. If you had said yes, I might have had a member less than a minute after thinking of the idea. :) |
| 07:32.35 | ToyKeeper | Anyway, if there's really that much difference in problem space between chess and go, I can see why computers have such trouble with go. |
| 07:32.53 | ToyKeeper | It's hard to just brute-force your way past hundreds of orders of magnitude. |
| 07:35.49 | purple_cow | ToyKeeper: there is that big a difference |
| 07:36.18 | purple_cow | an average game of go is probably a good 200 moves long, and each turn would have an average of approximately 300 choices |
| 07:37.13 | scanlime | blah, I should be asleep |
| 07:37.15 | purple_cow | oh, i see you've already calculated problem spaces |
| 07:37.24 | ToyKeeper | Yup. |
| 07:37.42 | ToyKeeper | I'd guess 500 orders of magnitude difference, between games of average length. |
| 07:37.51 | ToyKeeper | Well, maybe just 300. |
| 07:37.58 | ToyKeeper | But that's still googol cubed... which is a lot. |
| 07:42.03 | purple_cow | bleh, headache |
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| 09:55.17 | ToyKeeper | Man. I really need to work when people are awake. |
| 09:55.44 | ToyKeeper | It's disappointing to solve a mystery and have nobody to bitch to about it. :) |
| 09:56.09 | ToyKeeper | It turns out this redundant router wasn't broken due to a bug, but due to a broken design. |
| 09:56.47 | ToyKeeper | And I guess I get to write the bandaids and glue to work around the design issues. |
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| 14:42.45 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:43.15 | numist | dont remind me |
| 14:43.23 | rioter | night |
| 14:43.26 | rioter | bed again |
| 14:43.27 | kergoth | night |
| 14:43.30 | rioter | seem to do this alot... |
| 14:43.32 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 15:10.35 | slimspace | lurgy: poke |
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| 15:32.50 | darth_mall | holy crap! |
| 15:33.00 | darth_mall | the Dresden Dolls are playing the Fox with DeVotchKa |
| 15:33.27 | kergoth | ooh |
| 15:37.17 | Cae | LOL. poor Brad. |
| 15:37.47 | Cae | he can't say I didn't warn him, at least. |
| 15:43.07 | darth_mall | goddammit my TA is a fucking bastard! |
| 15:43.35 | darth_mall | he put a password on today's lab assignment so that we have to sit and listen to him babble about useless stuff before we get to do the lab |
| 15:43.56 | kergoth | :( |
| 15:44.44 | Cae | I like these new buttons I have..they're...interesting. |
| 15:44.54 | darth_mall | never mind that even if I were going to paying attention to him, I'd want to read the lab first anyway so I knew what we were doing today |
| 15:45.02 | Cae | darth_mall: hehe |
| 15:47.51 | Cae | I'm really starting to like this masochistic side of me..humm.. |
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| 15:49.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8867 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (main-window.c navigation-tree.c): |
| 15:49.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Last night's work on changing the behavior of Next/Prev Discussion to not wrap |
| 15:49.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: per server. It's broken right now, but I need to move the work to my laptop so I |
| 15:49.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: can ignore my TA today during lab. |
| 15:49.46 | darth_mall | Cae: starting to cut yourself for fun now, are you? |
| 15:50.19 | darth_mall | or are you just into self-flagellation? |
| 15:50.47 | Cae | :P none of the above |
| 15:51.10 | darth_mall | well, you're not very good at being masochistic then, are you? |
| 15:51.21 | Cae | more like why should I do all the work? |
| 15:51.37 | darth_mall | you've talked someone else into whipping you, then? |
| 15:51.40 | Cae | besides. there's more to masochism than sharps and whips. |
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| 16:05.12 | darth_mall | so you prefer psychological pain to physical? |
| 16:05.17 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 16:05.20 | scanlime | Raven hi, is there a guide available to create programing languages using vmware? |
| 16:05.20 | scanlime | Raven huh? |
| 16:05.20 | scanlime | rocket what do you mean creating programming languages using vmware? |
| 16:05.20 | scanlime | fami hi |
| 16:05.20 | scanlime | Raven well there are programing languages (www.squeak.org) which use an .image and a vm....and i wanted to create a new programing langugage on my own for training purposes and fun and haven't got a clue how to start ;-) |
| 16:05.31 | scanlime | grr, xchat missed all the <> again |
| 16:05.33 | kergoth | haha |
| 16:05.35 | kergoth | wow |
| 16:05.56 | darth_mall | naughty xchat! go to your room! |
| 16:06.15 | scanlime | I think this shower just told me how to implement unioning in event-driven file systems |
| 16:06.30 | darth_mall | good shower, you win a cookie |
| 16:06.43 | darth_mall | scanlime: be sure and put a cookie in your shower for me ^^ |
| 16:09.36 | pagefault | it's file! |
| 16:09.48 | file[muon] | it's pagefault! |
| 16:10.03 | file[muon] | silly pagefault is using a proxy on neutrino |
| 16:11.31 | pagefault | yep |
| 16:11.40 | pagefault | because the silly wireless here blocks almost every port known to man |
| 16:11.57 | pagefault | there I am cloaked now :) |
| 16:12.02 | Cae | class |
| 16:12.12 | file[muon] | haha |
| 16:12.23 | pagefault | i'm using neutrino to play WoW |
| 16:12.29 | pagefault | :) |
| 16:12.29 | file[muon] | neutrino's routing has gone funky |
| 16:12.40 | file[muon] | when I call out to other VoIP servers I come from 66.199.241.92 instead of .90 |
| 16:13.01 | pagefault | hehe |
| 16:13.04 | pagefault | thats strange |
| 16:14.01 | scanlime | darth_mall: I have no cookies :( |
| 16:14.15 | pagefault | I am involuntarily learning all about bras today |
| 16:14.24 | pagefault | 3 girls sitting beside me talking about them |
| 16:14.41 | scanlime | not going to join in and mention which bras you tend to prefer? |
| 16:14.55 | scanlime | "The pink ones always chafe my nipples..." |
| 16:15.10 | pagefault | I was thinking, but then I might come across in a way I don't intend |
| 16:15.38 | scanlime | it'll tell you right away if they have a sense of humor at all :P |
| 16:16.06 | scanlime | hmm.. putting my feet on this coffee table seems to have a negative effect on its structural integrity |
| 16:17.35 | scanlime | s/\\m\|/=/g |
| 16:17.55 | numist | :o |
| 16:18.05 | numist | yes, but its an illegal nick character, unfortunately |
| 16:18.10 | numist | \m/^_^\m/ for me |
| 16:18.17 | numist | no* |
| 16:18.33 | scanlime | (>")> |
| 16:18.37 | numist | pipes on both sides will work though :) |
| 16:18.38 | scanlime | <("<) |
| 16:18.39 | numist | nice |
| 16:18.48 | numist | (>^(O_O) |
| 16:18.53 | scanlime | (>")> *POW* <("<) |
| 16:18.59 | numist | :) |
| 16:19.41 | kergoth | morning chip |
| 16:19.41 | numist | morning chippy |
| 16:19.44 | scanlime | (>'')> |
| 16:20.09 | numist | brb, tea mug is empty :o |
| 16:20.11 | scanlime | (>")> . o O ( Hi Chippy ) |
| 16:20.18 | ChipX86 | hi? |
| 16:20.23 | ChipX86 | WOOT |
| 16:20.32 | file[muon] | I'm scared. |
| 16:20.49 | pagefault | hmm |
| 16:20.49 | pagefault | coffee |
| 16:20.53 | scanlime | ChipX86: nice :) |
| 16:20.59 | ChipX86 | do you see it?! :) |
| 16:21.01 | file[muon] | pagefault: you should have gotten some Tims |
| 16:21.13 | scanlime | ChipX86: yep |
| 16:21.16 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 16:21.44 | ChipX86 | now I just need to convince the guys not to put that one part at the other place |
| 16:21.49 | scanlime | wow, it's already 65% active |
| 16:22.06 | ChipX86 | sshh, don't give clues |
| 16:22.13 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 16:22.17 | ChipX86 | suspense is fun |
| 16:23.15 | scanlime | yeah, wouldn't want to give away that it's a giant robot or anything |
| 16:23.15 | pagefault | interesting |
| 16:23.15 | scanlime | oops |
| 16:23.15 | pagefault | apparently bras have gel inserts |
| 16:23.15 | ChipX86 | oh no! |
| 16:23.16 | ChipX86 | pagefault: yes |
| 16:23.16 | pagefault | talk about false advertising |
| 16:23.16 | ChipX86 | this is not new :) |
| 16:23.36 | pagefault | yeah I know |
| 16:23.40 | pagefault | but it's cheating :/ |
| 16:23.44 | numist | pagefault: some do |
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| 16:23.51 | ChipX86 | numist: you may have guessed right, but if you didn't... you just won't know :D |
| 16:23.55 | ChipX86 | hey itodd |
| 16:23.58 | numist | :o |
| 16:24.13 | itodd | hey chip |
| 16:24.20 | itodd | et al |
| 16:24.26 | ChipX86 | patience, numist. You must learn patience! |
| 16:24.37 | numist | noooo |
| 16:24.46 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hell yes i want to go to that show |
| 16:24.52 | numist | live for the moment, man... live fast and die young! |
| 16:26.53 | file[muon] | ermph I'm missing a bracket for this PCI card |
| 16:26.57 | ChipX86 | "LiveScience is reporting that a 100 square mile bulge has been rising in Oregon. First observed from a satellite using a relatively new technology called 'radar interferometry', some believe this to be the formation of a new volcano. I think it's just happy to see me." |
| 16:27.39 | scanlime | ha |
| 16:27.42 | ChipX86 | I love that last line |
| 16:27.53 | kergoth | haha |
| 16:27.55 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:27.55 | numist | fucker |
| 16:28.08 | numist | changing my DESKTOP background COLOUR made applications crash |
| 16:28.18 | numist | how is that have to do with the apps in any way?! |
| 16:28.42 | scanlime | you obviously picked an ugly color and the apps all got depressed ;) |
| 16:29.11 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 16:29.17 | ChipX86 | there's code for that now |
| 16:30.22 | scanlime | hmm |
| 16:30.25 | scanlime | s/color/colour/ |
| 16:30.30 | scanlime | it might have been a locale thing :P |
| 16:30.30 | ChipX86 | noo |
| 16:31.08 | numist | but it was gray :( |
| 16:31.17 | scanlime | mauve is the new gray |
| 16:31.24 | numist | wtf is mauve |
| 16:31.51 | numist | yesterday I couldnt even tell the difference betwee our green alarm and our yellow alarms.. I was glad that ones a circle and the other is a triangle with a ! :( |
| 16:32.20 | ChipX86 | my alarm is a phone. It's blue, and not a triangle or a circle. I know this is hard to believe. |
| 16:32.46 | numist | ... |
| 16:32.49 | numist | not that kind of alarm |
| 16:33.01 | numist | our software here throws alarms, its monitoring software |
| 16:33.08 | ChipX86 | then how do you wake up to it? |
| 16:33.10 | numist | for devices and applications |
| 16:33.14 | numist | I didnt, I was debugging it |
| 16:33.20 | ChipX86 | ah. I just use mine |
| 16:33.22 | ChipX86 | it has snooze now |
| 16:33.25 | scanlime | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393020053/103-6414474-9649448?v=glance |
| 16:33.25 | numist | and an alarm was thrown, and I couldnt see what kind of alarm |
| 16:33.29 | numist | oh bah! |
| 16:33.33 | numist | you're just playing with me |
| 16:33.37 | ChipX86 | well that's probably why it's broken then |
| 16:33.38 | numist | Ive been up way too long already :( |
| 16:33.40 | ChipX86 | you shouldn't be throwing it |
| 16:33.45 | numist | heh |
| 16:33.50 | numist | *sigh* |
| 16:33.56 | ChipX86 | :( poor numist |
| 16:34.00 | numist | a point for chippy |
| 16:34.17 | numist | wtf? changing the background colour also nuked the clock off my start menu |
| 16:34.18 | ChipX86 | I'm just all hyper |
| 16:34.40 | ChipX86 | oh, windows |
| 16:34.44 | numist | wouldnt matter |
| 16:34.56 | numist | linux or windows, the last meg always reports as bad, no matter what ram is in there |
| 16:35.09 | numist | makes me sad |
| 16:35.16 | numist | yeah, definitely time to reboot |
| 16:35.24 | ChipX86 | time for new ram |
| 16:35.34 | numist | rams fine |
| 16:35.39 | numist | tested both sticks in another lappy |
| 16:35.48 | numist | it seems like a motherboard incompatibility |
| 16:35.56 | numist | yeah, so I guess your right, time for new ram |
| 16:36.01 | numist | but these are listed as being compatible... gah |
| 16:37.02 | numist | oh hell, the dead instance of winamp still has a file handle open, so it won't die |
| 16:40.25 | scanlime | mmm... big check from my former landlord |
| 16:40.30 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 16:40.37 | ChipX86 | big checks rock |
| 16:40.54 | scanlime | yeah. my deposit, minus a relatively small cleaning fee |
| 16:41.11 | scanlime | need to remember to deposit this after work... |
| 16:41.16 | scanlime | hmm |
| 16:41.29 | scanlime | and while I'm in cupertino, might check that Sears for useful and cheap furniture items |
| 16:42.18 | ChipX86 | this makes me sad. The backup script is not backing up everything. |
| 16:42.21 | scanlime | :( |
| 16:42.24 | scanlime | rsnapshot? |
| 16:42.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 16:42.31 | ChipX86 | I don't know what's killing it |
| 16:42.34 | ChipX86 | the pid file is still there |
| 16:42.39 | scanlime | hmm.. maybe out of RAM? |
| 16:42.54 | ChipX86 | it has half a gig of swap, and it's just running rsync |
| 16:42.56 | scanlime | ah |
| 16:43.04 | ChipX86 | it's always after this one backup |
| 16:43.13 | scanlime | can you run it on a tty? |
| 16:43.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 16:43.30 | scanlime | well, good luck. I think I'm off to work |
| 16:43.47 | ChipX86 | cya later |
| 16:43.58 | ChipX86 | heading in in about 30 mins |
| 16:44.02 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 16:44.06 | ChipX86 | are you going to the party tonight? |
| 16:46.57 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: oh, you're here :) |
| 16:47.08 | nullpuppy | as I was going to tell you last night.. I got the chicken quest! :) |
| 16:47.28 | kergoth | /cheer |
| 16:47.40 | nullpuppy | you have to wait until the target selector thingy turns green, then act quick, cause it doens't last long |
| 16:48.14 | kergoth | i got my first epic drop last night :D |
| 16:48.55 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 16:49.18 | kergoth | a kang the decapitator from a lowly snapping turtle in the hinterlands. |
| 16:49.21 | purple_cow | http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005410429,00.html |
| 16:51.00 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:52.47 | nullpuppy | ooh, first episode of nerdtv has been released |
| 17:10.14 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: awesome :) |
| 17:10.20 | ChipX86 | yay chicken |
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| 17:22.52 | *** topic/#tacobeam is The fact that your costume is accurate to the last detail doesn't change the fact that the TV show sucked |
| 17:25.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8869 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: Get rid of that helper function I thought I needed. |
| 17:25.43 | darth_mall | this class is so boring |
| 17:26.34 | purple_cow | goddamn |
| 17:26.39 | purple_cow | everything on my laptop is segfaulting |
| 17:27.42 | darth_mall | >< |
| 17:29.38 | nullpuppy | i have a chicken! |
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| 17:31.03 | purple_cow | and also, goddamn, my dreams have been really screwed up lately |
| 17:31.14 | purple_cow | seems like every day for the last few weeks, my first concious thought of the day is "wtf?" |
| 17:34.05 | lurgy|work | hehe |
| 17:34.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I've had weeks like that. I hate them |
| 17:36.33 | scanlime | I've had the same headache since sunday :P |
| 17:36.51 | purple_cow | last night, i was babysitting a couple kids, and we decided to take a trip to a tropical rainforest, where there was much running from bad guys and throwing knives at snakes |
| 17:37.30 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:37.34 | scanlime | hehe |
| 17:38.49 | darth_mall | damned snakes |
| 17:40.15 | scanlime | looks like thai for lunch today |
| 17:41.39 | purple_cow | ``Fiat may hook up with DaimlerChrysler to create the perfect storm of crappy cars'' |
| 17:41.46 | darth_mall | run my unit test suite! |
| 17:42.21 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 17:42.38 | darth_mall | we ran our test in eclipse and got a warning from the windows firewall about it blocking java |
| 17:43.25 | scanlime | GODDAMNIT |
| 17:43.39 | scanlime | the vmware UI crashed while I was snapshotting.. and I lost the kernel compile I ran overnight |
| 17:45.02 | scanlime | guh |
| 17:45.05 | kergoth | man, i really ought to start bringing lunches into work |
| 17:45.08 | scanlime | 'the virtual disk needs repair' |
| 17:45.10 | kergoth | spending too much money |
| 17:45.14 | scanlime | @#$#@$#@% |
| 17:46.57 | scanlime | ChipX86: this bug where everything crashes when the snapshot dialog closes is really pissing me off :( |
| 17:47.35 | Cae | I need to jump something..hmm. |
| 18:03.10 | darth_mall | something, or someone? |
| 18:03.11 | darth_mall | ;) |
| 18:04.46 | purple_cow | aha |
| 18:04.54 | purple_cow | segfaulting was caused by a bad libxml2 |
| 18:05.24 | darth_mall | bad libxml2, go to your room |
| 18:07.29 | darth_mall | ouch |
| 18:09.00 | scanlime | hah |
| 18:09.13 | scanlime | I just got a call from the furniture place.. my coffee table will be available for pickup Friday |
| 18:09.28 | scanlime | they had to make it exactly two weeks :P |
| 18:12.10 | darth_mall | it's important to be accurate |
| 18:12.35 | scanlime | no idea what took so long.. oh well |
| 18:12.41 | scanlime | I'm getting a cool coffee table |
| 18:15.29 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah, that needs fixing |
| 18:15.35 | darth_mall | grr |
| 18:15.36 | darth_mall | stupid java |
| 18:15.52 | ChipX86 | scanlime: we decided not to go with the one thing and are instead going with the oither thing we now have |
| 18:17.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: sounds good |
| 18:18.03 | scanlime | ChipX86: the other thing could get frustrating, and probably wouldn't be that much of a benefit except possibly speed... |
| 18:18.09 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:18.23 | ChipX86 | whereas the current thing gives us full control |
| 18:18.26 | scanlime | yup |
| 18:18.40 | nullpuppy | haha, theres a Crazy Cat Lady in Elwynn just south of northshire, she sells kitties :) |
| 18:18.48 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 18:18.51 | ChipX86 | how much? |
| 18:19.13 | nullpuppy | 40s |
| 18:19.39 | ChipX86 | oh not bad |
| 18:19.45 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:19.45 | ChipX86 | probably will go for 1g or more at the AH |
| 18:19.49 | scanlime | kernel compile soooo slow... |
| 18:19.50 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 18:20.59 | scanlime | blah. I'm not going to get anything done today at this rate |
| 18:25.50 | purple_cow | "warren, "sober up" is not an acting tip" |
| 18:28.13 | scanlime | :) |
| 18:33.11 | scanlime | suppose I should go bring back some thai food while I'm waiting on this compile |
| 18:37.57 | kergoth | mmmm, chai |
| 18:38.19 | kergoth | sure hits the spot after a crappy stressful day so far |
| 18:39.03 | scanlime | nod |
| 18:39.15 | scanlime | so.. I keep forgetting about this Gnome release party tonight :P |
| 18:39.59 | kergoth | heh, could be fun |
| 18:44.42 | scanlime | damn.. this thing is still compiling |
| 18:49.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8870 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (main-window.c navigation-tree.c navigation-tree.h): compiling is good |
| 19:00.22 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 19:00.24 | purple_cow | today's PA is great |
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| 19:34.37 | scanlime | heh, grumpydisk works pretty well on flash sticks too |
| 19:35.08 | pagefault | I freaking hate this professor I have |
| 19:35.18 | pagefault | he refuses to use windows and thinks .NET is useless |
| 19:37.24 | scanlime | and isn't it great when the students assume he's right just because he's a professor? |
| 19:39.22 | pagefault | yeah |
| 19:39.32 | pagefault | it's like stallman is teaching this class |
| 19:40.34 | kergoth | hmm.. someone says theres a new tatu album.. |
| 19:41.39 | scanlime | pagefault: you should ask him if he uses GNU/Linux or just Linux :P |
| 19:41.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:42.22 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:44.32 | scanlime | USB drives are getting so cheap |
| 19:44.52 | scanlime | I bet soon you'll see software distributed on little USB dongles that contain both installation media and hardware copy protection |
| 19:46.09 | pagefault | that would be scary |
| 19:46.15 | pagefault | but it would never work |
| 19:46.20 | scanlime | wouldn't it? |
| 19:46.29 | pagefault | as long as you can read it, you can copy it |
| 19:46.50 | scanlime | no, in addition to the flash memory there would be a cryptography interface |
| 19:46.58 | pagefault | ah |
| 19:47.05 | scanlime | challenge-response, with the private key stored in unreadable memory |
| 19:47.14 | kergoth | hardware copy protection.. think the serial/parallel dongles that you have to have plugged in to run high end cad and cam software |
| 19:47.15 | scanlime | or something like that |
| 19:47.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:47.21 | scanlime | kergoth: nod |
| 19:47.30 | scanlime | we had those at Space Grant, for solidworks |
| 19:47.51 | kergoth | my dad uses that. he's a machinist |
| 19:49.10 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:49.21 | scanlime | I read that as 'masochist' at first.. was going to say "it didn't seem that bad..." |
| 19:49.30 | kergoth | lol |
| 19:50.50 | scanlime | warzok:/home/micah# ipkg install elinks_0.10.3-1_armeb.ipk ; ipkg install svn_1.2.0-2_armeb.ipk |
| 19:50.53 | scanlime | ipkg: gzip aborted |
| 19:50.56 | scanlime | then my ssh session dies... |
| 19:51.43 | scanlime | ah, my tmpfs is full |
| 19:51.50 | scanlime | lots of cruft left over in /var/tmp |
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| 19:56.41 | StrFox | ah, so true |
| 20:00.29 | numist | really |
| 20:03.16 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:03.36 | StrFox | really |
| 20:03.37 | pagefault | haha ok |
| 20:03.44 | pagefault | the guy said that msn.com runs on linux |
| 20:03.52 | pagefault | but I just pointed out to him that netcraft says it's using IIS |
| 20:03.55 | pagefault | but he said I was wrong |
| 20:04.04 | numist | IIS for linux, why cant you both be right? |
| 20:04.15 | pagefault | because netcraft says it's running Windows 2003 |
| 20:04.29 | numist | :( |
| 20:04.38 | pagefault | this teacher is a moron |
| 20:04.46 | kergoth | :( |
| 20:04.50 | scanlime | pagefault: they could be using IIS as a proxy server ;) |
| 20:04.56 | pagefault | maybe |
| 20:05.03 | pagefault | he says the portal page is done in perl |
| 20:05.12 | scanlime | perl runs on IIS |
| 20:05.25 | pagefault | but MS using perl |
| 20:05.25 | pagefault | ? |
| 20:05.31 | pagefault | and not ASP |
| 20:05.36 | scanlime | stranger things have happened |
| 20:06.14 | purple_cow | MSN != MS |
| 20:06.21 | scanlime | I mean, MS is just a bunch of separate kinda-isolated groups.. the MSN people might just like perl |
| 20:06.48 | scanlime | you'd be surprised how many companies never dogfood their own products unless they have to :) |
| 20:07.16 | purple_cow | aren't they technically separate companies? |
| 20:07.36 | numist | probably |
| 20:09.28 | scanlime | ChipX86: ok, I think this crashes 100% of the time when I close the snapshot manager :P |
| 20:09.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: is it supposed to train users to never open it, or to keep it open all the time? |
| 20:10.51 | ChipX86 | I have never seen that happen |
| 20:12.42 | scanlime | meeting time soon... |
| 20:12.51 | ChipX86 | which? |
| 20:29.49 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ping |
| 20:33.03 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:33.03 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: make the world database actualy store derived classes and not the base classes |
| 20:33.03 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: read in clasic boxes |
| 20:33.03 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add world renderer to draw said clasic boxes |
| 20:36.36 | scanlime | ChipX86: pong |
| 20:36.47 | scanlime | ChipX86: just a meeting with Dan, Chris, Sam, and I.. going over resumes |
| 20:36.57 | scanlime | (we need windows kernel hackers! tell your friends!) |
| 20:37.11 | ChipX86 | scanlime: quick question |
| 20:37.18 | scanlime | yea? |
| 20:38.20 | purple_cow | s |
| 20:46.03 | scanlime | hm, another meeting in 15 mins |
| 20:46.21 | scanlime | well... I'm still cranky at this, but at least I know I'm not just imagining the bug |
| 20:46.29 | scanlime | and that it probably wasn't caused by my code, just exposed |
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| 21:09.08 | gonkulator | oh no, a gonkulator |
| 21:12.01 | file[laptop] | eep |
| 21:12.22 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8871 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/navigation-tree.c: This next_channel function still isn't yielding exactly the right behavior. |
| 21:16.21 | gonkulator | wow, iPod nano |
| 21:18.24 | Cae | okay, going home. |
| 21:26.11 | gonkulator | wow, the new iTunes is kinda funky |
| 21:40.17 | scanlime | man.. |
| 21:40.23 | scanlime | every week should be thai and ice cream week |
| 21:40.53 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:41.11 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:41.18 | scanlime | VMware employees get apple discounts now |
| 21:41.30 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:41.32 | scanlime | those new ipods look awful cute.. |
| 21:41.44 | scanlime | I kinda wish they were more than 4GB, but for the size that's great |
| 21:42.03 | scanlime | maybe by the time my rio breaks they'll be up to 10GB |
| 21:43.38 | kergoth | woot, got the new tatu album |
| 21:43.41 | kergoth | need to listen to that when i get home |
| 21:46.12 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r8872 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog main-window.c textgui.c xchat-gnome.glade): apply Claessens Xavier's patch for making the nickname label into a button |
| 21:49.09 | ChipX86 | damn you proxy.vmware.com |
| 21:49.22 | kergoth | damn you firefox-bin, consuming 44% of my memory |
| 21:50.14 | kergoth | yay |
| 21:50.23 | file[laptop] | after you sell your soul. |
| 21:50.27 | kergoth | oh |
| 21:50.33 | kergoth | well okay, i'm not using it or anything |
| 21:50.37 | file[laptop] | excellent |
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| 21:53.45 | ChipX86 | the Sin City opening music is so awesome |
| 21:55.56 | scanlime | wow... this time I crashed both the UI and vmx |
| 21:56.58 | darth_mall | scanlime: it's ok, I forgive you |
| 21:57.27 | ChipX86 | I HATE OUR PROXY |
| 21:57.35 | scanlime | =( |
| 21:57.36 | file[laptop] | I do too |
| 21:57.37 | scanlime | what's it doing now? |
| 21:57.45 | ChipX86 | I can't do any cvs work behind it |
| 21:58.00 | ChipX86 | sourceforge even set up nice cvs-ssh.sf.net stuff for firewalls and proxies |
| 21:58.09 | ChipX86 | but our damn proxy software disallows stuffing ssh through the proxy |
| 21:58.13 | scanlime | corkscrew :P |
| 21:58.16 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 21:58.28 | scanlime | it's a little program that adds http proxy support to ssh |
| 21:58.38 | ChipX86 | does it work here? |
| 21:58.42 | scanlime | I'm using it right now |
| 21:58.45 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 21:58.53 | scanlime | but it seems they often block port 22 |
| 21:59.00 | scanlime | so you have to bounce the ssh through something on an odd port |
| 21:59.02 | ChipX86 | we don't need port 22 |
| 21:59.04 | scanlime | ok |
| 21:59.14 | ChipX86 | cvs-ssh has ports 80 and 443 going to cvs.sf.net at port 22 |
| 21:59.19 | scanlime | nice |
| 21:59.22 | scanlime | so this should be perfect |
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| 22:05.47 | scanlime | RUN, it's slimspace! |
| 22:05.52 | slimspace | ahh!!! |
| 22:07.17 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:07.25 | scanlime | I'm not sure if this is a bug in Xorg, or in xpdf... |
| 22:07.49 | rioter | knowing both those peices of software, both :P |
| 22:07.59 | scanlime | but try opening a PDF with a table of contents, expanding the tree, then dragging another window down and right across it |
| 22:08.14 | scanlime | the vertical dotted line in the table of contents will draw on top of the window that should be obscuring it |
| 22:08.21 | scanlime | looks like an X clipping bug |
| 22:08.50 | scanlime | well, anything that causes the TOC to get an expose event will trigger it |
| 22:09.00 | scanlime | dragging the window downward and to one side is just the most obvious way to see it |
| 22:13.32 | ChipX86 | ok, how the hell do I get corkscrew working.. |
| 22:13.38 | ChipX86 | or rather |
| 22:13.51 | ChipX86 | how do I specify a port on cvs-ssh without using pserver |
| 22:15.25 | scanlime | I'd try putting the -p option inside CVS_RSH, or even editing your ssh config to make that the default port for that particular server |
| 22:16.15 | ChipX86 | cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot exec ssh -p 80: No such file or directory |
| 22:16.56 | ChipX86 | oh wait |
| 22:18.18 | scanlime | I'd just stick something like "Host foo\nPort 80" in your .ssh/config |
| 22:18.25 | ChipX86 | yeah trying that |
| 22:18.35 | ChipX86 | but it's not good enough :/ |
| 22:18.41 | scanlime | aw |
| 22:18.47 | scanlime | is corkscrew working for other hosts? |
| 22:18.48 | ChipX86 | ohhhhh wait |
| 22:20.24 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:20.26 | scanlime | yay |
| 22:20.44 | scanlime | so when are you letting this particular cat out of its airtight bag? |
| 22:20.50 | ChipX86 | tonight or tomorrow |
| 22:20.59 | ChipX86 | depends on our crappy network :) |
| 22:21.02 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:21.03 | ChipX86 | and the dinner tonight |
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| 22:21.06 | scanlime | go go gadget proxy |
| 22:21.12 | ChipX86 | I'd love to announce it to the people tonight |
| 22:21.15 | scanlime | ya |
| 22:21.18 | kergoth | tailor is cool |
| 22:21.25 | scanlime | heh, dinner... not sure I can handle two real meals in one day |
| 22:21.33 | ChipX86 | don't have to eat much |
| 22:21.35 | ChipX86 | though the food is good |
| 22:21.38 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:21.50 | scanlime | cheesecake factory usually has big portions, but I've got lots of fridge space |
| 22:23.29 | scanlime | oh nice |
| 22:23.40 | scanlime | I think maybe this isn't a real bug after all |
| 22:23.48 | scanlime | it could just be that this flash stick I've been testing with is buggy |
| 22:24.56 | darth_mall | s/fridge/tummy/ |
| 22:25.05 | scanlime | linux is sending it an IDENTIFY command, and it returns with no data at all, then a status packet indicating that it was successful |
| 22:25.15 | scanlime | then linux tries to reset it, and it goes completely dead |
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| 22:28.12 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10CVSROOT/cvswrappers: Set up our cvswrappers. |
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| 22:28.26 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 22:28.33 | ChipX86 | uh oh! |
| 22:28.37 | ChipX86 | oh nos! |
| 22:34.07 | scanlime | oh no! |
| 22:34.22 | ChipX86 | (wait for it...) |
| 22:35.28 | ChipX86 | crap. |
| 22:35.32 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:35.46 | kergoth | ooh |
| 22:35.46 | ChipX86 | /cvsroot/view/CVSROOT/ciabot_cvs.pl: no files specified |
| 22:35.47 | kergoth | <rtc> This day is a good day :) 1b of TAOCP 4 is out. http://sunburn.stanford.edu/~knuth/news.html http://sunburn.stanford.edu/~knuth/fasc1b.ps.gz :) |
| 22:35.49 | scanlime | it's fun to kick |
| 22:36.15 | ChipX86 | ciabot_cvs.pl doesn't work well at all with imports >:( |
| 22:37.05 | scanlime | you should rewrite it in lua and make it a WoW plugin |
| 22:37.10 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:37.13 | kergoth | definately |
| 22:40.27 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:40.41 | scanlime | oh |
| 22:40.46 | kergoth | the new TOACP fascile 1b is about bit fiddling |
| 22:40.50 | scanlime | ChipX86: have you been getting any of my /msg'es? I think freenode has been eating them |
| 22:40.51 | kergoth | though be interesting to see what knuth has to say |
| 22:40.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope, none |
| 22:41.02 | scanlime | ah, that makes more sense now |
| 22:41.09 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 22:41.17 | kergoth | s/though/should/ |
| 22:43.50 | scanlime | I swear this windows VM must have about a hundred viruses on it right now |
| 22:44.11 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/README: Briefly describe VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets. |
| 22:45.17 | scanlime | :) |
| 22:46.01 | kergoth | exciting widgets you say.. |
| 22:56.39 | scanlime | very exciting |
| 22:56.55 | scanlime | they're gonna get slashdotted and it will bring sourceforge down! |
| 22:57.05 | scanlime | :P |
| 22:57.31 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
| 22:57.34 | darth_mall | not slashdot! |
| 22:57.43 | scanlime | oh no, not darth_mall! |
| 23:03.19 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (17 files in 9 dirs): |
| 23:03.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: render the ground using the world object size |
| 23:03.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: start filling in the object list with crap |
| 23:04.29 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Set up documentation support. |
| 23:06.31 | TD | ChipX86: view? |
| 23:06.39 | ChipX86 | VMware's Incredibly Sexy Widgets |
| 23:08.35 | TD | LOL |
| 23:08.36 | TD | nice |
| 23:08.39 | TD | like what? |
| 23:08.44 | TD | and what is it with you and widget porn? |
| 23:08.53 | TD | i swear, you have some widget fetish |
| 23:08.54 | ChipX86 | s/Sexy/Exciting/ |
| 23:09.05 | TD | "phwoar! look at the event handlers on THAT!" |
| 23:09.15 | TD | "oh baby, it's sending ALL the right signals" |
| 23:09.16 | TD | etc |
| 23:10.52 | ChipX86 | I meant exciting :) libsexy caused me to say Sexy |
| 23:11.04 | ChipX86 | it's most of the cool generic-enough widgets we use in VMware |
| 23:11.12 | ChipX86 | like you know the toolbar that slides down in Quickswitch mode? |
| 23:11.23 | ChipX86 | there's that, there's a label that can wrap at any width |
| 23:11.41 | ChipX86 | a header box widget that matches the theme |
| 23:11.52 | ChipX86 | many things |
| 23:11.54 | TD | ah, cool |
| 23:12.03 | TD | nice to see vmware contributing back |
| 23:12.05 | ChipX86 | it's our actual widgets. We'll be using libview from now on internally |
| 23:12.08 | TD | maybe some of them can be merged back into GTK+ |
| 23:12.12 | TD | what license? |
| 23:12.14 | ChipX86 | I've been pushing for this for about 8 months, and we finally got everything done |
| 23:12.17 | ChipX86 | MIT |
| 23:12.20 | TD | yay! go ChipX86 ! |
| 23:12.22 | TD | interesting |
| 23:12.31 | ChipX86 | it's been very much welcomed, all the way up to the top |
| 23:12.32 | ChipX86 | nah |
| 23:12.46 | ChipX86 | GPL bad for us |
| 23:12.51 | ChipX86 | LGPL leads to other issues |
| 23:13.13 | ChipX86 | this is the reason I've been talking to lawyers lately :) |
| 23:13.31 | TD | GPL not bad for you |
| 23:13.34 | TD | GPL good for you |
| 23:13.36 | ChipX86 | no |
| 23:13.38 | ChipX86 | GPL means we must be GPL |
| 23:13.41 | ChipX86 | we link to this library |
| 23:13.44 | TD | VMware owns the copyright on it, so you can use whatever license you like for yourself |
| 23:13.49 | ChipX86 | but we want others to contribute |
| 23:13.53 | ChipX86 | it's a real open source project |
| 23:14.07 | ChipX86 | it's not a Linksys-type code dump |
| 23:14.13 | TD | ah yes. well, you could ask for copyright assignment, but the commercial value probably isn't all that high |
| 23:14.17 | TD | so yeah MIT seems OK |
| 23:14.24 | ChipX86 | we thought about that, but decided it would inconvenience people |
| 23:14.27 | file[laptop] | you should do what Digium does |
| 23:14.33 | ChipX86 | we went through every major license and thought about the pros and cons |
| 23:14.39 | file[laptop] | in order to get code into asterisk you have to disclaim it to Digium |
| 23:14.46 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: we didn't want to do that |
| 23:14.50 | file[laptop] | it allows them to use it under their own license |
| 23:14.52 | ChipX86 | it discourages people from contributing |
| 23:15.14 | TD | fair enough then |
| 23:15.17 | TD | nothing wrong with MIT |
| 23:15.37 | file[laptop] | it hasn't been too bad with Asterisk |
| 23:15.42 | ChipX86 | these are mainly gtkmm widgets |
| 23:15.44 | file[laptop] | it's just, it takes a very long time to get sutff into CVS |
| 23:15.49 | file[laptop] | and there's only two people that do it |
| 23:15.53 | ChipX86 | if inkscape has anything they'd like to contribute, or if they'd like to use any of these, that would be cool ;) |
| 23:16.29 | ChipX86 | I can't believe we got view.sf.net |
| 23:17.10 | TD | that's pretty sweet name |
| 23:17.16 | TD | inkscape is still mostly raw C |
| 23:17.25 | ChipX86 | it was another one of those me-opening-my-mouth-and-saying-something-stupid things |
| 23:17.26 | TD | they have been porting to GTKmm but it's slow work |
| 23:17.29 | TD | heh |
| 23:17.33 | ChipX86 | we were trying to come up with ab etter name than vmwareGTK |
| 23:17.49 | ChipX86 | I said, "View! VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets!" |
| 23:17.54 | ChipX86 | my manager jumped up and said, "Yeah!" |
| 23:17.58 | ChipX86 | and everyone's like, "That's great!" |
| 23:18.02 | kergoth | yay MIT |
| 23:18.06 | ChipX86 | Philip checked sourceforge and said it wasn't taken |
| 23:18.11 | ChipX86 | so I ran down the halls and registered it |
| 23:18.32 | ChipX86 | it's like when I changed our mission statement to say "We create kick-ass user interfaces" on accident |
| 23:18.32 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: you rock! |
| 23:18.50 | ChipX86 | opening my mouth and saying stupid things seems to cause things to happen around here :P |
| 23:20.29 | TD | heh. for ChipX86s next trick |
| 23:20.37 | TD | "hey, i just had a great idea. let's open source VMware" ;) |
| 23:20.43 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 23:20.48 | ChipX86 | there are other things though |
| 23:20.53 | ChipX86 | maybe not open source |
| 23:21.10 | TD | i was kidding ;) |
| 23:23.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r8873 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (main-window.c navigation-tree.c): Almost finished. It aborts when you're moving down from one server to the next. |
| 23:26.17 | purple_cow | time to make a pie crust |
| 23:28.02 | purple_cow | argh |
| 23:28.04 | purple_cow | gourmet is broken |
| 23:30.30 | scanlime | hah |
| 23:30.38 | scanlime | facilities noticed my picture is missing from the directory |
| 23:31.10 | ChipX86 | they're checking everbody lately |
| 23:31.19 | ChipX86 | because they've solved all other problems here at VMware |
| 23:32.36 | scanlime | yup |
| 23:32.52 | scanlime | they took a photo for my badge on my first day.. that was supposed to go on the directory too, but I guess they lost it |
| 23:32.55 | scanlime | shrug |
| 23:36.36 | scanlime | hm. I doubt I have any pictures of myself I'd want to give them |
| 23:36.57 | ChipX86 | tell them it's their own damn fault and stop bothering you while you work |
| 23:37.02 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:39.55 | darth_mall | scanlime: you've got plenty of great pictures of yourself |
| 23:39.59 | darth_mall | give them the one with the flu sticking out of your pants |
| 23:40.03 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:40.16 | scanlime | preferably I'd be facing the camera, not looking particularly psychotic |
| 23:40.27 | scanlime | those kinds of pictures of me just don't exist |
| 23:40.30 | darth_mall | I think that's a fantastic picture |
| 23:40.46 | scanlime | the linuxworld guy just ignored me when I sent it ;) |
| 23:41.35 | darth_mall | aw |
| 23:41.37 | darth_mall | lame |
| 23:46.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (4 files in 4 dirs): have object list show id, name, and class of each object |
| 23:47.03 | darth_mall | man I'm sleepy |
| 23:47.18 | scanlime | thirsty.. |
| 23:47.41 | darth_mall | that too |
| 23:49.28 | scanlime | and I still have this damn headache |
| 23:49.35 | scanlime | the one I've had since sunday |
| 23:49.56 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:50.41 | darth_mall | maybe your TV isn't big enough ;) |
| 23:50.47 | scanlime | hah |
| 23:51.03 | scanlime | I think this is absolutely the biggest possible TV you'd want in a living room my size |
| 23:51.27 | darth_mall | is it the same size as the largest wall in the room? |
| 23:51.29 | scanlime | everything looks smaller when you're in front of a wall full of big-screen TVs |
| 23:51.36 | scanlime | heh.. not quite |
| 23:51.47 | darth_mall | then it's not the biggest TV I'd want ^^ |
| 23:52.00 | scanlime | but considering most video content isn't really panoramic in nature, it's nice to be able to see it all |
| 23:52.06 | darth_mall | but it is probably the biggest TV that would actually be good for me |
| 23:52.20 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:52.43 | scanlime | I'll have to bring it with me when I visit ;) |
| 23:52.45 | scanlime | carry-on |
| 23:52.50 | ChipX86 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/view/ |
| 23:52.50 | darth_mall | haha |
| 23:52.57 | ChipX86 | libview 0.five-O is released |
| 23:52.58 | darth_mall | I imagine it's too big for carry-on ;) |
| 23:53.03 | scanlime | really? |
| 23:53.08 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 23:53.10 | scanlime | I could stand it up in the aisle and hold onto it |
| 23:53.28 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:53.43 | scanlime | ChipX86: nice |
| 23:53.51 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:53.55 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:55.50 | scanlime | uh oh, people might find out our super-sekret coding style from this |
| 23:55.58 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:58.12 | scanlime | hehe |
| 23:58.54 | numist | ooh, I need to pack my n64, dont I |
| 23:59.06 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:59.29 | scanlime | ChipX86: nice.. this appears to be pretty efficient too, it's using vram-to-vram blits to move things around rather than having the individual widgets redraw |
