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00:29.49filehow hard?
00:30.31nullpuppyhard enough to make my freaking connectino work properly
00:30.43file:(
00:30.52nullpuppyran a speed test in a vm... 249/7 ....
00:31.03nullpuppyshould be 4mb/384kb ...
00:38.29nullpuppyugh. this is sooo not acceptable.. 70/7
00:41.22kergoth20 minutes left till my download of hitchhiker's guide finishes (the movie)
00:41.23kergothhmmm
00:41.30fileI was going to go buy that...
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00:46.56darth_malleveryone should buy it! on PSP!
00:49.04filedarth_mall: that's silly
00:51.23kergothi havent seen it yet, wondering how bad it is
00:52.24darth_mallit wasn't terrible, but of all the mediums on which that story has existed, it is my least favorite
00:52.35darth_mallit definitely had its moments
00:52.40nullpuppywhich?
00:52.43darth_mallI was rather fond of Alan Richman in it
00:52.48darth_mallnullpuppy: HHGTTG
00:52.59nullpuppyah, right
00:54.15nullpuppyarg, I'm soo close to calling comcast and complaining...
00:54.24darth_malldo it!
00:54.28darth_mallcall them!
00:54.37nullpuppyheh
00:54.38nullpuppye
00:54.59nullpuppyI so don't feel like it though :( just pissed off that my connection is absolutely worthless right now
00:55.13kergothyay shrek
00:55.53kergoth"The battle is won.. you can remove your helmet." "uhhh.. no." "why not?" "i uh.. have helmet hair!"
01:00.03darth_mallseriously, who thought turning the Rock into a movie star was a good idea
01:01.24kergothhehe
01:03.27darth_mallhe was actually the first choice for the lead The One
01:04.03darth_malls/lead/lead in/
01:06.54scanlimeoh
01:07.06scanlimeit helps if I don't store OpenGL matrices in the memory I'm using for glEnables :P
01:11.50orchidok, Conway Twitty has some really cool songs
01:12.00darth_malland a funny name ^^
01:12.11orchid:)
01:12.33darth_mallmy brother and I used to laugh and laugh when we heard his name as kids
01:12.49orchiddarth_mall: you know you were country before country was cool
01:13.05darth_mallcountry was never cool ;)
01:13.42orchidI listened to tons of this week (stayed at Moms house)
01:13.50darth_mall^^
01:14.31orchidyeah Mom is 'old school' when it comes to tunes
01:14.38darth_mall^^
01:15.22orchidI still say Conway Twitty was a visionary
01:15.42darth_mallI've never actually listened to him ^^
01:15.48darth_mallI just used to laugh at him as a child
01:17.00orchidno
01:17.04orchidoops
01:21.13CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8967 10motion/py/ (Test/ test.py): Going to try a different way of doing the unittests.
01:28.24darth_mallpro-wrestling is quite possibly the most embarassing thing this country has ever come up with
01:31.37CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8968 10loopy/ (loopy.c nehe-06.py): Mostly-working tracking/restore for matrices
01:53.07CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8969 10motion/py/Dance/ODE.py:
01:53.07CIA-5navi-misc: Initialize ODEs with just a function. Pass the ODE initial conditions and a Time
01:53.07CIA-5navi-misc: object.
01:53.31kergothdarth_mall: is The One any good?
01:53.38CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8970 10motion/py/Dance/ODE.py: Don't really need __all__ defined here.
01:53.43darth_mallkergoth: it's ok
01:53.47kergothhmmmk
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01:53.57darth_mallI just can't fathom Jet Li being your second choice after the Rock...
01:54.01kergothyeah, thats crazy
01:54.04kergothjet li is great
01:54.07kergothand the rock..
01:54.09darth_mallI mean, Jet Li is really good
01:54.15darth_mallthe Rock is just big
01:54.19zakhmm. sin city is interesting
01:55.50zaklots of very interesting actors, many of which have never starred in a serious movie in their entire careers
01:55.50kergothi wonder how Unleashed is
01:55.52kergothi wanted to see that
01:56.01scanlimeI should head over to Tony's housewarming party
01:57.06zak(those are waves
01:57.10scanlimefancy
01:57.21zakyep
01:57.26zakthat's so
01:57.48scanlimepurple_cow's blog makes me hungry :(
01:58.01zakit was so very tasty
01:58.40scanlime:)
01:58.52scanlimemaybe we can do some cooking saturday while I'm over
02:07.36darth_mallarg
02:07.49darth_mallwindows is freaking annoying
02:17.41ChipX86heh, finally wireless works again
02:18.53ChipX86uh oh
02:19.00file[laptop]rut roh?
02:19.03ChipX86tivo's requiring 12 month service commitments for new tivos now
02:24.41ChipX86ack!
02:24.54ChipX86my katamari damacy game's estimated ship date is November 26
02:35.36CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8971 10motion/py/Dance/ (ODE.py Sequence.py):
02:35.36CIA-5navi-misc: ODEs don't keep a reference to the time object anymore. Don't import Motion into
02:35.36CIA-5navi-misc: Sequence.
02:48.54purple_cowrofl
02:49.15purple_cowso i asked the TA for confirmation if that paper was ready to review
02:49.18purple_cowand it's not
02:51.16ChipX86hah. Jumanji!
02:51.49zakthis is really strange movie
02:52.11zakwhich is that?
02:52.26purple_cowthey had used copies of the life & death of peter sellers at the video station
02:52.29purple_cowso i bought one :)
02:52.32zaklol
02:52.38zaklet me know if it's worth seeing?
02:53.06purple_cowwell, darth_mall said it was great, and it won a whole bunch of emmys
02:57.36darth_malllurgy saw it too
02:57.45darth_mallhe came over and watched it with me when I got it
03:09.12zakwell, sounds like he is watching it again
03:09.23zaki'd like to borrow it, if you don't mind
03:10.05darth_mallgoddammit
03:10.23darth_mallI cannot get my freaking network card working under windows for some reason
03:18.56zakdarth_mall: i think that my spare will work
03:19.11zakI can't recall if it needed drivers, but it did work under windows
03:25.23CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r265 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/thingies/walls.py): Properly compute the width of the number of wall tiles, and clip it to the proper dimensions.
03:25.49ChipX86woops, that made less sense than I intended
03:27.08CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r266 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/thingies/balls.py): The bowling ball animation was fun, but it's time to turn it off the nextFrame() calls in draw().
03:29.48purple_cowrofl. the pink panther thing on the plane is awesome
03:34.43darth_malluhoh
03:34.56darth_mallthis might be a problem with my network card...
03:35.01ChipX86:(
03:35.57darth_mallI can't get it to come up on this livecd either...
03:37.07darth_mallbut my laptop gets an IP just fine when I plug it in
03:37.35darth_mallbut this makes no sense, it was working fine earlier today...
03:37.56purple_cowyay, it's stephen fry
03:42.39CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r267 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Get rid of some "integer argument expected, got float" runtime warnings.
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03:43.37nullpuppyarg
03:43.40kergoth?
03:44.13file[laptop]argc?
03:45.22nullpuppyanyone happen to know comcasts customer support number? I need to call and complain about my connection
03:45.22nullpuppypinging google is giving me 14 packets transmitted, 6 received, 57% packet loss, time 22031ms
03:45.22nullpuppyrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 748.502/890.121/1079.992/116.126 ms, pipe 2
03:45.33ChipX86everyone's having network problems tonight
03:45.47nullpuppyhmm
03:45.57purple_cowwowie
03:46.06purple_cowgeoffrey rush does an amazing peter sellers
03:46.19purple_cowthat had to be an unbelievably difficult role
03:48.00Sophie197I'm a girl.
03:48.12ChipX86yes you are
03:48.17nullpuppyindeed you are.
03:48.39ChipX86Sophie197's in bootup mode
03:48.58Sophie197:)
03:49.27Sophie197bedtime for bongo.
03:49.40ChipX86oh, shutdown mode
03:49.42ChipX86g'night
03:49.52Sophie[zZz]g'night boys.
03:50.47CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r268 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py):
03:50.47CIA-5osiris-misc: - The selection now changes on hover, rather than on click, making it work more like TIM.
03:50.47CIA-5osiris-misc: - Fixed a bug where the cursor was being reset to pointer when the drag finished. It should have stayed as the hand.
03:50.48Sophie[zZz]something for you to read: http://www.win.net/ratsnest/archive-articles21/fog0000000384.html
03:51.52kergothwoot
03:51.57kergothChipX86: i'm heading to blackrock depths :)
03:52.09nullpuppyi suppose I'll just work on getting my d&d stuff put together for tomorrow
03:52.22ChipX86kergoth: fun
03:52.30kergothgoing as a 10 man
03:52.34ChipX86tempted to play, kind of, but I have so many cool things coming up now in taco :(
03:52.37ChipX86nullpuppy: :(((
03:52.38kergothnullpuppy: :(
03:53.08ChipX86http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46494
03:53.15ChipX86McDonalds is going to use sex to sell hamburgers
03:53.52ChipX86this is in Japan
03:54.18nullpuppyits about time ;)
03:54.26ChipX86cuter than the clown
03:54.40ChipX86I wonder if they're going to get rid of Ronald
03:54.44nullpuppyfirefox didn't like that link it seems...
03:55.10ChipX86"The reason Japanese people are so short and have yellow skins is because they have eaten nothing but fish and rice for 2,000 years. If we eat McDonald\u2019s hamburgers and potatoes for a thousand years we will become taller, our skin become white and our hair blond."
03:55.35nullpuppyhaha
03:55.38ChipX86so says the Japanese McDonalds president
03:55.41nullpuppybrilliant
03:55.56kergothhah
03:59.48ChipX86meh, the kids above hvae been running, jumping, and screaming all day long
04:01.02kergoth<Tem> ~geekquote
04:01.03kergoth<abot> Tem: <Supra87T> aw, for shits sake! // <Snipa> what? // <Supra87T> remember sarah? well, the other night we fucked, and now i have to get tested for aids. // <Snipa> Think positive // <Supra87T> fuck you man, thats not even funny
04:01.37nullpuppyson of a bitch.  stupid packet loss...
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04:21.17zakthey now do creationist tours at the natural history museum
04:21.30zakapparently god made dinosaurs on the 6th day of creation.
04:21.37ChipX86:P
04:21.40ChipX86great
04:22.31zakin fact, IRCC, humans didn't even show up on the radar until a couple million years later
04:22.43zakdamn. that god is good with the aging thing.
04:23.03ChipX86zak: stop using science and logic! The Christian church wouldn't lie to us!
04:23.39purple_cowit's just the FSM reaching out with his noodly appendage and changing the results of the experiments
04:24.30kergothhehe
04:24.35kergothyay fsm
04:25.06kergothChipX86: blackrock mountain is visually neat.  http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/wow_sshot53.jpg
04:25.07purple_cowYAY! space oddity is on the soundtrack for this movie
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04:37.20zaksick sick sick
04:37.44zakpurple_cow: go ahead and watch the movie, I think we're going to pass
04:40.59darth_mallwell, I don't understand it
04:41.09darth_mallmy network card is now workin
04:42.05darth_mallsounds plausible to me
04:42.25purple_cowor gremlins, they can cause trouble too
04:42.32darth_mallthis is likely zombies
04:42.47darth_mallI maintain a pretty stringent gremlin-free zone
04:42.52darth_mallbut my zombie security is lax
04:43.05darth_mallzombie's make for good experience points
04:46.30purple_cowwow, good film
04:50.22darth_mallI like it
04:50.29darth_malland I think Geoffery Rush does a great job
04:50.35purple_cowhe was amazing
04:50.54darth_mallit must be extremely difficult playing another actor, let alone someone like Peter Sellers
04:51.09purple_cowalmost all of the characters were spot on
04:54.16CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r269 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/thingies/balls.py src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Added a containsPoint function on canvas.Object. Ball overrides this and checks if the point is in the circle making up its bounds. This all needs to be done in a better way.
04:54.41purple_cowdarth_mall: you're missing shakespeare-on-a-screen here
05:12.38ChipX86if I have a list of things in python and I want to iterate from last to first, what's the most efficient way of doing this?
05:12.54purple_cowfor x in y:
05:12.59purple_cowoh, last to first
05:13.18purple_cowhang on a tic
05:14.37ChipX86heh, everyone hsa network issues today
05:14.46purple_cowfor index in range(y.len - 1, -1, -1):
05:15.22purple_cowscanlime can probably suggest something more elegant
05:16.06ChipX86is it slower to access that way (I have no idea if this represents a linked list or an array) or is it the same as going front to back?
05:17.49zakChipX86: i forgot to tell you, the pirate hats are fantastic
05:17.53ChipX86:)
05:18.11purple_cowi *think* lists are internally represented as arrays, but i can't remember
05:18.11ChipX86the hats themselves were stolen, but I tried to make them look good for everyone on ptc
05:19.21purple_cowwe should find a real pirate hat and make new hackergotchis
05:19.25ChipX86yep
05:21.00purple_cowthis movie has the best piano concerto i've ever heard
05:22.08CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r270 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py):
05:22.08CIA-5osiris-misc: Reverse the order in which we represent objects in the list. Now, the start of
05:22.08CIA-5osiris-misc: the list are the top-most objects and the end are the bottom-most. draw() now
05:22.08CIA-5osiris-misc: draws the list in reverse order to accomodate this change. This fixes
05:22.08CIA-5osiris-misc: getObject(), which was scanning from the lower-most object to the upper-most.
05:22.33kergoththat sucked ass.
05:22.53ChipX86?
05:23.59kergothChipX86: 10 man BRD run.  my first brd run, and my first raid in an instance
05:24.24kergothChipX86: group was absolute chaos, people going all over the place, arguing, no clear leadership, no organization
05:24.37ChipX86ugh
05:24.43kergothChipX86: lost a person shortly after going in, and everyone died multiple times shortly after going in
05:24.47kergothnot a full wipe, but jesus
05:25.02kergothi have no patience for groups without leaders giving instructions, and players being able to follow them
05:25.15kergoth_someone_ has to know whats going on, and everyone else needs to listen to them
05:25.18kergothi bailed
05:27.00kergothi am _really_ disappointed in the lack of discipline by those in wow.  not _surprised_, but still disappointed.
05:27.06ChipX86yeah
05:27.10ChipX86especially the higher levles
05:27.14ChipX86er, levels
05:28.06kergothChipX86: i'm starting to think that pickup groups (those that lfg/lfm random people rather than going with guildies/friends) are _not_ the way to go
05:28.12kergothChipX86: need to at least see dthe core with clue
05:28.17ChipX86nod
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05:35.36ChipX86bbs
05:48.59kergothooh, sin city and thhgttg are both downloaded
06:13.07purple_cowthis movie is making my brain hurt
06:15.51CIA-5BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
06:15.51CIA-5BZFlag: windows support for yon new graphic stuff
06:15.51CIA-5BZFlag: also do some
06:37.32zakkergoth: sin city is really good
06:38.44zakpurple_cow: yea brain bleeding ^_^
06:39.18purple_cowyep, that was yet another peter sellers movie i never need to see again
06:44.11purple_cowhttp://html.nbcsandiego.com/sh/quizine/1285387
06:44.54lurgyhehe
06:46.54zakHI MICAH!
06:47.30scanlimeoof!
06:47.32scanlimehiya
06:47.33lurgyhehe
06:47.56ChipX86who?
06:47.57scanlimehuuuge place, very little furniture, very fuzzy carpet
06:48.00scanlimetony
06:48.21scanlimelotsa people there... most of them I recognized as vmware folks
06:48.32ChipX86cannon?
06:48.35scanlimeyep
06:48.38ChipX86neat
06:48.53scanlimeit's in cupertino, about 4.5 miles south of me
06:50.16scanlimeI managed to walk out of safeway with a liter of whisky without getting my ID checked
06:51.36scanlimejack daniels
06:51.44scanlimenot that I've really tried much else, but I love jack & coke
06:52.26ChipX86never tried whiskey
06:52.28scanlimegrr.. the keyboard on this laptop keeps going flaky every time it switches to battery power
06:52.41scanlimeand it switches to said battery far more often than it should with this flaky power cable
06:53.03scanlimeChipX86: you could bring some cake, and we could have a whiskey party!
06:53.04scanlime:P
06:53.10ChipX86yay!
06:53.26scanlimeit'd be like that vodka party that happened to take place after lurgy turned 21...
06:54.16zakhttp://www.livejournal.com/userpic/35419553/554178
06:54.20zakthat makes me happy\
06:54.29zakscanlime: go look at ptc
06:54.33zakand don't get sick
06:56.01lurgyyar
06:56.22lurgyew, jack & coke.. :P
06:56.22scanlimeoh wow...
06:56.41scanlimezak: heh, outside of colorado most grocery stores have a pretty big liquor section
06:56.48purple_cowyay blue laws!
06:57.14ChipX86<PROTECTED>
06:57.19scanlimeyup
06:57.28scanlimeand it's always at least a whole aisle for wine
06:57.31ChipX86yeah
06:57.54scanlimesigh...
06:57.58scanlimecan't wait to get back to boulder
06:59.21scanlimewell, I imagine there's a reason for that...
06:59.32scanlimeliquormart's wine section is probably as big as some grocery stores
06:59.41purple_cow:)
07:00.26ChipX86WoW or taco.. :(
07:00.39scanlimehmmm
07:00.56scanlimeso I have a unionfs mount on wasabi, combining several directories from the same smbfs mount
07:01.02scanlimeit works fine.. but it doesn't mount the union on boot
07:01.21scanlimethe module should be loaded by the time it parses fstab...
07:01.29purple_cowChipX86: taco
07:01.30scanlimeChipX86: taco taco taco taco
07:01.37scanlimeI love the little tacos...
07:02.00scanlimezak: stay here and guard the data.. er... taco beam!
07:02.19ChipX86the taco beam is going to be the coolest, most useless thing in taco
07:03.28scanlime:)
07:13.44purple_cowhttp://www.fuckthiswebsite.com/
07:26.02CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8972 10loopy/loopy.c: Abuse the preprocessor some more so we can get symbol names and line numbers for failed internal OpenGL calls
07:29.45purple_cowyay, someone using #text
07:29.58CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8973 10loopy/loopy.c: Tracked down an uninitialized OpenGL matrix mode quickly thanks to that last change
07:30.03purple_cowit's sad how many people don't know about that
07:30.07scanlime:)
07:30.31scanlimeI'm scared of how long some of these macros must be expanding to
07:31.12scanlimeGL() includes two RESOLVE()s, which each contain two RESOLVE_SOFT(), some error checking, and a RESOLVE_DLSYM()...
07:31.21scanlime:)
07:31.50purple_cowscanlime: C is *supposed* to look grossly long once it's preprocessed
07:31.58scanlimeyeah
07:32.15purple_cowit's just that most people have forgotten that you can use the preprocessor for more than just #include
07:32.23scanlimeand at least 99% of the expanded macro code is skipped in the normal runtime case
07:34.45scanlimethere's still one more thing in loopy I'd like to abuse the preprocessor for...
07:35.09scanlimebut I don't think it's possible without being able to write #defines inside of #defines
07:35.11purple_cowyou could convert loopy to C++!
07:35.19scanlimegreat idea!
07:35.44purple_cowi think *technically* it would work, but it would make symbols more of a pain
07:35.53scanlimeyes
07:36.02scanlimejust like technically I probably could write this in pyrex...
07:36.49scanlimeI think I'd have to extern "C" most of the program if I used C++
07:37.18scanlimethen I could do all the hook functions and such with templates!
07:37.24scanlimeloopy could be 20 lines of code that takes 3 hours to compile
07:38.36purple_cowhehehe
07:39.28scanlimeoh, hmmmmmmmm
07:39.41scanlimeI can't put #defines in #defines, but I can put const definitions or enums in #defines
07:40.35purple_cowoh guh
07:40.39purple_cowwordpress has smiley graphics
07:41.02scanlimehehe
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07:51.00CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8974 10loopy/loopy.c: Clean up the GLSTATE_* definitions. We still have to have #defines for C and a separate table for Python, but this moves the two close together so they're easier to keep in sync.
07:51.10ChipX86@!^#*&
07:51.25ChipX86I got to watch the laptop spazz out for the first time. Normally it happens while I'm away, but this time I was actually working on it
07:51.57scanlime:(
07:52.00ChipX86the screen shut off for a split second, came back on dimmed, the battery meter jumped to 0%, then the whole system locked up, then the speaker made a couple popping sounds
07:52.13ChipX86the computer was completely unresponsive and I had to pull out the battery again
07:55.06scanlimefun :(
07:55.16ChipX86I'm just waiting for my filesystem to be nuked
07:55.21kergothhehe, thhgttg wasnt bad.  not nearly as good as the book, but i'm sure this makes it more accessible to those who wouldnt have read it otherwise
07:55.56ChipX86the guy had better give me good news on monday.
08:14.15ChipX86I lost my motivation to work
08:14.41purple_cow:(
08:23.52CIA-5smrt: 03jupiter * r101 10docs/lib/project-proposal.tex: add requested comma
08:24.43CIA-5smrt: 03jupiter * r102 10docs/lib/introduction-common.tex: xp
08:29.13CIA-5smrt: 03jupiter * r103 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: another comma
08:30.20CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8975 10loopy/loopy.c: um, a comma!
08:30.40CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r271 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Add basic bounds-based collision detection for selections. If you attempt to move something on top of something else, you'll get a red selection with an X in it. It doesn't yet prevent you from placing it there, though.
08:32.26CIA-5smrt: 03jupiter * r104 10docs/lib/figures/conceptual_overview.svg: s/Looking Glass/Project Looking Glass/
08:32.32purple_cowscanlime: hehe
08:32.50scanlimesorry, it wasn't actually a comma
08:37.15ChipX86this computer is pissing me off
08:37.26ChipX86I hate hearing creaking every time I put my hand down or press the mouse buttons
08:37.50scanlimethere's an obvious solution...
08:37.53purple_cowhttp://david.navi.cx/tmp/funny-google.png
08:38.18ChipX86purple_cow: weird
08:38.29scanlimehmm
08:38.30ChipX86scanlime: don't click?
08:39.57scanlimeI was going to say "hearing loss", but that works too
08:40.01ChipX86ah
08:40.11ChipX86well I can feel it too
08:40.19scanlimehuh
08:40.20ChipX86but I suppose I could deaden the nerves
08:40.49scanlimecould just wrap your computer with duct tape, then cut out a hole for the keyboard and ports
08:41.02ChipX86wouldn't solve the computer shutting itself off every so often :(
08:42.01scanlimeyou could pour liquid copper all over its motherboard, to make sure that every part of the laptop has power
08:42.07ChipX86haha
08:42.34scanlimeyeah :(
08:42.48ChipX86this was such a good computer once
08:43.03ChipX86then their tech support department molested it. Now it's afraid of being touched
08:44.01ChipX86hmm, must figure out if I want to mimick TIM's way of dragging (click to drag, click again to release) or use an actual drag approach, and if the latter, how should I handle the case of dropping it on an area that isn't allowed..
08:45.22scanlimemmm
08:52.47CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r272 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): If a dragged object is released onto a spot that it's not allowed on, the object will jump back to its original location.
08:55.34purple_cowscanlime: always a good thing
09:02.27CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r273 10taco/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Resize the bowling ball to 40x40.
09:03.37ChipX86my computer is being very odd in its cpu scaling..
09:04.04ChipX86sitting idle? 100% CPU, sometimes then 50, then 100 for a while... big operation? Sometimes still 50%, for no good reason
09:04.50ChipX86it's quite clear there's a major power management issue here, even when the bios has all power management disabled
09:08.58ChipX86bed time for me. g'night
09:09.08numistgnight chippy
09:14.31scanlimeloopy got complicated :(
09:15.10scanlimeah well.. more work under the hood is the price I pay to have a really simple interface
09:18.31purple_cowyeah
09:18.42purple_cowmuch nicer to have complex C and simple python than the other way around
09:18.46scanlimeindeed
09:36.22numistgnight fellas
09:42.01scanlimehahaha
09:42.15scanlimeI just tried running the nehe demo on top of bzflag
09:42.38scanlimethe cube is textured with bzflag's font (haven't added texture binding to the tracker)
09:42.52purple_cowhah
09:42.54scanlimebut the really funny part is that the bzflag world is kind of spinning along with the cube
09:43.03scanlimeeven though the menu is staying put
09:44.15scanlimebah, I can't see the server list with this stupid cube in the way
09:45.05scanlimeIneed to screenshot this :)
09:54.06scanlimehttp://zero.navi.cx/~micah/loopyflag.jpeg
09:54.44purple_cowgreat filename :D
09:55.02scanlimehehe
09:56.54scanlimefunky swirling effect on the radar... I think that area of the screen is getting clouds drawn on it but not the rest of the sky
09:59.33scanlimethe gears in glxgears are spinning along the wrong axis...
10:18.31scanlimeooh sweet
10:18.55scanlimewith texture tracking off, I get a little video cube on top of the video :)
10:23.02CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8976 10loopy/loopy.c: Fix a silly bug, now it looks like the matrix tracking is working
10:40.36purple_cowway past bedtime for me
10:47.49CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8977 10loopy/loopy.c: Fix texture binding tracking
11:36.16scanlimehttp://zero.navi.cx/~micah/loopycube.jpeg
11:36.17scanlimewoo
11:41.18CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8978 10loopy/ (loopy.c soya-particles.py):
11:41.18CIA-5navi-misc: Add color tracking. The nehe demo runs flawlessly now on bzflag, glxgears, xine,
11:41.18CIA-5navi-misc: cube, and a few of the rss-glx screensavers. There are still some state tracking
11:41.18CIA-5navi-misc: issues in mplayer and glplanet, and the soya demo doesn't run yet.
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14:35.39Sophie[zZz]lalo!
14:41.16lalohi Sophie197
14:57.06kergothmorning
14:57.16file[laptop]no no, destroy mornings
15:01.46kergothyes
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16:30.18Sophie197I kinda have to pee
16:30.28kergothdid we really need to know that?
16:30.48rioteri know i now live a fuller life knowing that
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16:43.38Sophie197so what are you saying, exactly?
16:44.04Sophie197that I shouldn't share every tiny detail about what I feel or do throughout my day?
16:44.30Sophie197I haven't gone to the bathroom yet, btw.
16:48.28Sophie197think i will now though.
16:56.10lurgyheh
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17:20.33CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r18 10luafoo/ (ChangeLog README.TXT): Add ChangeLog and README to the template.
17:20.54CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r19 10luafoo/ (ChangeLog ChangeLog.TXT): Add extension to the changelog for windows folks
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17:35.52CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r20 10luafoo/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add unit testing with luaunit. Split out example usage of the class into a seperate file.
17:37.58CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r21 10luafoo/ (fooclass.lua usage.lua): Move foo bits into a seperate namespace.
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17:39.45CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r24 10luafoo/test/testfoo.lua: Adjust test per the namespace change.
17:40.53CIA-5covenant-misc: 03kergoth * r25 10luafoo/foo.doc: Update .doc file for documentation generation.
18:09.36numistboo comment moderation
18:11.03darth_mallhaha!
18:11.05darth_mallwhat a great commercial
18:11.47darth_mallsome new flavor of Dr. Pepper and they start singing that muppets song: doo doooo da doo doo, doo dooo doo doo, manah manah...
18:12.04numistI love that one
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18:28.34ChipX86darth_mall: eep, now that song's in my head again
18:28.34darth_mallhehe
18:28.34darth_mallme too
18:28.34numistits not a bad thing, embrace it
18:28.34ChipX86it slowly drives me insane :(
18:28.34numistwell..  time to go build some HV Capacitors
18:28.35purple_cowmotor oil and beer bottles?
18:28.35numistno, bottles are actually a bad dielectric..  low dissipation factor
18:28.35numisthigh density polyeurethane - painters sheeting and aluminum foil rolled in PVC
18:29.41ChipX86wow
18:29.41ChipX86Nat found a neat happy pouch
18:29.41ChipX86also, the new beagle UI rocks
18:44.03scanlimemy god that was a fucked up dream
18:44.09scanlimeand I can't remember it :(
18:44.24ChipX86:(
18:44.34ChipX86boo fucked up dreams
18:45.37scanlimenah, I like them
18:45.43ChipX86I'm tired of them
18:45.47scanlimehehe
18:46.12ChipX86every night contains a series of either very weird (not in a good way) dreams or really horrible dreams, like family members getting murdered
18:46.33ChipX86or the entire human race being doomed in 3 days and having to live those three days in the dream knowing there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. This is a common one.
18:47.05ChipX86I'm glad you like yours though :)
18:49.07ChipX86huh. Inkscape reports this thing as 20x14, even when I go to render the object, but it's displaying it outside the 20x14 canvas bounds
18:49.44scanlimeChipX86: :(
18:50.03ChipX86ah, rendering bug. It doesn't do that at all zoom levels
18:50.12scanlimeThe best I can describe mine is that purple_cow and I were detectives investigating some kind of mind control disease in a former war zone.. and I ended up catching it and going mad
18:50.24scanlimeso not exactly a happy dream, but it was entertaining
18:51.45purple_cowyay detectives
19:01.24CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r274 10taco/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add the resize control images for selected objects.
19:03.53ChipX86caffeinated lipstick.
19:04.37scanlimebaconated grapefruit!
19:04.42ChipX86heh
19:04.48ChipX86I'm looking at the new editions to thinkgeek
19:05.01ChipX86MYMICROBOTS Brand Robots
19:05.28ChipX86why would someone pay $10 for a piece of paper with a little tihng on it that has a robot in the middle that is 500 microns in size? It's not like you're going to be seeing it
19:08.49file[laptop]ChipX86: don't think about stuff like that
19:11.01kergothChipX86: http://www.neriak.de/images/VisoreD2.jpg .. see if you can find his atlas minimap icon
19:11.27ChipX86are those i in the top-right just above the N?
19:13.03kergoth:) he moved them over his titan panel
19:13.07kergothwith an addon like moveanything
19:13.08kergothhehe
19:13.09ChipX86nice
19:13.24CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8979 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: Unit tests for the dance module.
19:16.52ChipX86I need to make this canvas more robust and add better event and collision code
19:18.54scanlimeI need to work around stupid apps that abuse OpenGL
19:18.59ChipX86:)
19:19.01scanlimexine never allocates its textures :(
19:19.04ChipX86funn stuff
19:19.26scanlime'course, loopy itself is quite an opengl and ld.so abuse...
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19:23.48file[laptop]hail pagefault
19:24.19pagefaulthello file
19:25.06file[laptop]how are you?
19:25.19CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r275 10taco/images/selection/resize-horiz.png: Forgot this file.
19:25.51pagefaultpretty good, you?
19:25.58file[laptop]not too bad
19:26.03purple_cowscanlime: you should submit a patch to xine ;)
19:27.07scanlimeeh.. it's more fun just to have this track texture allocation or lack of it :)
19:27.13scanlimemplayer has a similar problem
19:27.26scanlimeI bet lots of these simple opengl video apps don't bother initializing textures properly
19:31.02purple_cowmmk
19:37.32CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r276 10taco/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
19:37.32CIA-5osiris-misc: - Add sexy resize arrows to selected widgets.
19:37.32CIA-5osiris-misc: - The desired layer is now passed to all objects. The constructor does the add call. This simplifies code and allows objects to manipulate the layer in the constructor.
19:39.46ChipX86kergoth: ping
19:40.18kergothChipX86: pong
19:40.27ChipX86is that AB map addon in?
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19:40.57kergothChipX86: not yet.  want me to add it?
19:41.02ChipX86sure
19:41.38kergothk
19:42.33CIA-5osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r277 10taco/src/main.py: svn:executable ;)
19:42.40ChipX86ah
19:42.44ChipX86forgot all about that
19:43.01kergothhehe
19:44.40CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r278 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Hide the arrows when nothing is selected.
19:46.12purple_cowChipX86: the snap-to-grid is sexy
19:46.22ChipX86:)
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20:01.09scanlimeyay, it's like an MMU for texture IDs :P
20:01.28purple_cowhaha
20:01.38purple_cowooh, FSM porn!
20:01.40purple_cowhttp://flickr.com/photos/ioerror/46349490/
20:02.31purple_cowthe boingboing headline is "task force this, suckaz!" :)
20:03.15CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r279 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py):
20:03.15CIA-5osiris-misc: Increase the size of the selection to accomodate the controls, but continue
20:03.15CIA-5osiris-misc: drawing only in that area around the selected object. This allows for moving the
20:03.15CIA-5osiris-misc: mouse outside that box to select a control and not having the whole selection
20:03.15CIA-5osiris-misc: disappear.
20:03.27ChipX86haha
20:04.01ChipX86I'd have to say that the FSM is one of the best things to have happened this year
20:05.16purple_cowyep
20:05.32purple_cownot only does it make fun of the creationists, but it's created a whole new interest in pirates!
20:05.38ChipX86yep :)
20:06.06ChipX86taco is fun to work on
20:07.17scanlimehum.. I wonder if loopy would work on target apps that use cairo with opengl
20:07.44purple_cowhehehe
20:08.06purple_cowcrazy bastard
20:08.31scanlimeit wouldn't do much unless you could convince gtk it likes redrawing everything continuously
20:09.09purple_cowtrue
20:09.40purple_cowyou'd get a spinning cube as you resized a window ;)
20:09.44scanlimehehe
20:09.52CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r280 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/thingies/walls.py src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Objects can now specify if they're resizable or not, and the arrows are only shown if the selected object is resizable.
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20:16.20pfaultok
20:16.23pfaulttime to copy kergothwowbits
20:16.25pfaultand play some wow
20:16.34ChipX86hmmm, tempting
20:16.44pfaultwow
20:16.45pfaultjust do it
20:23.51CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r281 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/Thingie.py src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Add movement restraints and set them for the resize handles.
20:30.07pfaulti'm still getting a lot of errors with wowbits
20:31.10kergothpfault: hmm, i'm only getting one.  what errors?
20:31.24kergothif you're getting any with the chatscroll stuff, make sure you did a full update at the Interface/ dir, not just in Addons/
20:31.27ChipX86god damn fucking laptop ARGH
20:31.32kergoth:(
20:31.39pfaultwell for starters I get the addon warning message after patching to 1.7.1
20:31.47ChipX86can't last more than a few hours with dying anymore
20:31.51kergothpfault: and?
20:31.56pfaultand whenever I loot an item and click on the text in the status window I get some error message
20:31.57kergothyou always want to load them anyway
20:32.30kergoth'some error' tells me exactly nothing
20:32.48kergothits probably the bug with AdSpace. thats the only problem right now that i'm able to reproduce
20:33.16pfaultyes it's in adspace
20:33.25pfaultline 12: bad argument #1 to find
20:33.38kergothjust disable that one for now. known bug.  it isnt compatible with current versions of EnhTooltip
20:35.11ChipX86damnit I can't remember what I was doing now
20:35.26scanlimenoooodly
20:38.06pfaultstill getting an error when I kill sometime too
20:38.12pfaultKillLogFrame.lua
20:38.15pfaultline 677
20:38.26pfaultattempt to index field ?
20:38.29pfaulta nil value
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20:41.36pfaultfucking hell I hate this day
20:41.43ChipX86me too
20:41.51ChipX86what's going on?
20:41.54pfaultmy computer is not working right
20:41.57pfaultI have nothing to eat
20:42.05pfaultand I have a cyst on my hand I need something done with
20:42.08ChipX86:(
20:42.15ChipX86I only have the first two
20:44.42CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r282 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Put the selection resize handles into a list, so that we can just iterate through and set things instead of doing it one-by-one.
20:48.25ChipX86hmmm
20:48.51ChipX86I want to move Selection into its own file now, since it has utility classes, but then it has to import canvas, which would have to import selection.. Python doesn't really allow that I'm guessing
20:50.50pfaultwhat does taco to
20:50.50pfaulterr do
20:50.56ChipX86it's The Amazing Contraption
20:52.59CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r283 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Added HorizResizeControl and VertResizeControl classes. Yay reusable code.
20:53.06ChipX86it's like The Incredible Machine, or hopefully will be at least
20:53.22ChipX86right now it's a canvas with a couple of animated bowling balls and a brick wall
20:54.35CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8980 10loopy/ (loopy.c nehe-06.py):
20:54.35CIA-5navi-misc: Implemented a texture remapper that fixes xine. Both the nehe demo and xine use
20:54.36CIA-5navi-misc: texture ID 0 without allocating textures properly- Loopy now catches that and
20:54.36CIA-5navi-misc: maps each GLState's virtual texture space to a properly allocated real texture
20:54.36CIA-5navi-misc: space.
20:54.43pfaultwhy the hell do people invite you to a group without even asking if want to join
20:54.46pfaultcool
20:55.34scanlimehrmph
20:55.44scanlimeI don't think mplayer even glBindTextures()'es once
20:55.56purple_cowoof
20:56.02pfaultyou should rewrite zsnes's opengl code
20:56.15purple_cowdoesn't it work with zsnes?
20:56.30purple_cowscanlime: yuck
20:56.32scanlimeit did last time I tried it.. that was a while ago
20:56.39pfaultapparently we've been told it's very messy and doesn't work very well
20:56.44pfaultalthough it seems to work for me
20:57.22scanlimeoh swanky
20:57.35scanlimelookit that cache fly...
20:58.34scanlimeso under Loopy, an app can just use any texture ID it wants, and that automatically maps to a glGenTextures() and such :)
21:02.36ChipX86ok, this one last thing and then I'm done for a while
21:03.09scanlime/  glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D);
21:03.09scanlime/  glBindTexture(GL_TEXTURE_2D, texture_id);
21:03.18scanlime^ from mplayer.. it's commented out :P
21:03.23ChipX86I'm so looking forward to going into work tomorrow
21:03.28scanlimewhy?
21:03.36ChipX86I want to get this preferences rewrite done
21:03.40scanlimeah
21:05.15ChipX86cool, infinite loop
21:08.07purple_cowscanlime: does it never bind or does it bind once and then just rewrite the texture buffer?
21:08.09purple_cowbecause texture binds cause a state reset
21:11.47scanlimeit binds if OSDs are enabled, otherwise it never binds
21:11.59scanlimewhen OSDs are on, it binds texture zero
21:12.58purple_cowi think technically a texture should stay bound across frames
21:12.58purple_cowso you probably need to keep track of which texture was bound and restore that
21:13.14scanlimeuhhuh, I'm doing that already
21:13.26scanlimethe problem is that it starts using textures before binding anything
21:13.41scanlimeso my tracker doesn't know that texture is in use
21:13.45purple_cowweird
21:13.52scanlimeyeah
21:14.04purple_cowmaybe the opengl spec defines a default texture?
21:14.21scanlimeI think zero might be default.. I was thinking about binding that right after glx initialization
21:14.28purple_cowworth a try
21:14.47scanlimebut.. the problem with that is that I'm dynamically tracking which texture targets are in use
21:15.14purple_cowwell, they need to glCreateTexture, right?
21:15.19scanlimeah well. I guess I can do this init for GL_TEXTURE_2D..
21:15.22scanlimeglCreateTexture?
21:15.45scanlimethey just jump right into glTexParameter and glTexImage2D
21:15.50purple_cowhuh
21:16.04purple_cowdon't they need to allocate the texture memory?
21:16.38scanlimethat happens in glTexImage2D
21:16.57scanlimehmm, yep.. assuming a default binding like that fixes mplayer
21:18.30ChipX86woot
21:22.01ChipX86oops
21:22.05ChipX86taco grew to 750MB
21:24.12CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r284 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Resizable objects can now be resized.
21:24.19ChipX86weeeeee
21:28.19CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8981 10loopy/loopy.c: The texture tracker now detects targets that get used without being bound first, and sets up a default binding and mapping for them.
21:28.29scanlimehehe
21:28.59scanlimeoooh
21:29.12scanlimewhen the mplayer OSD shows up, it changes the blendfunc and makes the nehe cube look cooler :)
21:29.57CIA-5asterlink: 03jcolp * 10gemini/ (gemini_utils.c gemini_utils.h): Add utility function to check whether a header exists in a SIP message or not
21:30.16ChipX86people don't know how to ask questions well
21:30.25scanlimehahaha
21:34.25CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r285 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py):
21:34.25CIA-5osiris-misc: - Add Object.onMouseEnterEvent and Object.onMouseLeaveEvent.
21:34.25CIA-5osiris-misc: - The resize handles now change color slightly when hovered over.
21:35.00ChipX86I need to build the toolbox so that I can add more walls and balls
21:35.07ChipX86but I think I'll take a break
21:35.31ChipX86I'm just thrilled that I can resize this brick wall
21:35.55numistyay!
21:36.41scanlimehehe, a corn dog bone
21:37.19darth_mallooh corn dog
21:37.23darth_mallmy brother likes those for some reason
21:37.31ChipX86they're good every so often
21:38.55ChipX86oh god
21:39.29ChipX8614:36:08 <        cplusplus> how can i have linux in fullscreen with vmware?
21:39.29ChipX8614:36:18 <          ChipX86> click fullscreen
21:39.29ChipX8614:37:09 <        cplusplus> ok;-)
21:39.29ChipX8614:37:12 <        cplusplus> works;-)
21:40.51kergothlol
21:41.00numist...
21:41.08file[laptop]reminds me of a mailing list reply I did yesterday
21:41.35file[laptop]"You have to tell it the extension you want to pick up, it's not psychic."
21:48.31CIA-5osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r286 10taco/ (ChangeLog src/taco/ui/canvas.py): Hide the controls around the selection while dragging. Re-show when dropped.
21:49.31ChipX86$5 says this guy is now going to mess with his Virtual Device Node setting
21:49.46scanlimehehe
21:50.00CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8982 10loopy/loopy.c: Track glBlendFunc()
21:50.06ChipX86WoW time.
21:56.16file[laptop]I'm just in such a blehish mood
22:01.07ChipX86today just sucks
22:01.14file[laptop]I concur
22:01.17file[laptop]let's blow it up!
22:01.30ChipX86coding again because my mouse's charging cable was just barely unplugged, and the mouse never charged, and it's on empty
22:03.25*** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@67-41-140-229.hlrn.qwest.net)
22:03.49scanlimeheh, never seen that
22:03.55file[laptop]never? wow
22:03.55ChipX86really?
22:03.58ChipX86wow
22:04.03ChipX86I thought Jamie was unique in that
22:04.10kergothheh
22:04.23kergoththat reminds me of the comedian who was saying that its on tv so often, he's starting to think the loop is really happening
22:04.24ChipX86making her sit down and watch it one of these days :)
22:04.30ChipX86kergoth: haha
22:04.47ChipX86it's one of those movies you never have to own, because it's just always on
22:04.57file[laptop]it just never dies
22:05.10kergothChipX86: indeed
22:06.11scanlimemmm, raisin bran
22:06.15numistIve never seen that either
22:06.35ChipX86ok, I'm going to get scanline, numist, and Jamie in the same room at some point with a copy of Groundhog Day
22:06.54kergothgood plan
22:07.31darth_malloooh
22:07.33darth_mallfunny movie
22:07.35darth_mallgo Bill Murray
22:07.47ChipX86yep
22:08.33scanlime"I'm steering with my ass!" "That's the best thing I ever saw!"
22:10.13ChipX86"Well what if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today!"
22:11.09CIA-5navi-misc: 03evan * r8983 10motion/py/Dance/tests.py: Lorenz test passes.
22:13.00ChipX86yay, candy corn soda!
22:16.11lurgybetter yet, ChipX86 could come with numist, scanline and jamie next weekend and show us this film
22:16.29lurgy;)
22:16.33ChipX86next weekend I'm going back to Chico
22:16.44scanlimeaw
22:16.59scanlimeogg, gorilla emperor of earth!
22:19.33lurgy:)
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22:21.26ChipX86you know, despite seeing this more times than I can count, it's still a good movie
22:23.49ChipX86scanlime: #vmware :))
22:25.59scanlimehehehe
22:26.33ChipX86that channel is just entertainment for me
22:26.44ChipX86it's as bad as #gaim was. Less traffic though
22:28.28scanlimenod
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22:41.58ChipX86cplusplus is on the idiots list
22:42.40kergothyou have an idiots list?
22:42.43*** join/#tacobeam jcausey (n=jcausey@cpe-066-056-190-007.triad.res.rr.com)
22:42.46kergothi'd think a non-idiots list would be shorter
22:42.48ChipX86kergoth: I'm making a mental list
22:42.53ChipX86hmm good point
22:46.04scanlimeit crept around the ground on round rubber feet, like a wolf!
22:46.11kergothhehe
22:46.16kergothgood episoe
22:47.03ChipX86"Why would anyone steal a groundhog?" "I can probably think of a couple reasons.. pervert.."
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22:51.55scanlimeblah. how did I break textures?
22:57.38darth_mallgoddammit this is really annoying
23:03.02CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8984 10loopy/ (loopy.c nehe-06.py): Fix a couple typos that were breaking OSDs in mplayer and most of the textures in cube
23:06.04darth_mallI do not understand why I'm getting a kernel panic
23:10.38scanlimehehe
23:10.44ChipX86the idiot
23:10.45scanlimeChipX86: you'll make a fortune on bets like that
23:10.55ChipX86he'll deny it
23:10.57ChipX86but I *wrote* that code
23:11.25ChipX86there aren't conflicts unless you specifically modify the settings
23:11.36scanlimehehe
23:11.50scanlime"She's built like a steakhouse, but handles like a bistro!"
23:15.28ChipX86he's just so blindingly dumb
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23:16.38scanlimehiya zak!
23:16.48CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r8985 10loopy/ (loopy.c test.py): Fix another typo that was breaking exception handling
23:16.52darth_mallhmm... I may have just found out what the problem was
23:22.31darth_mallhah! take that gentoo
23:31.43zakhiya scanlime
23:32.14zakhiya darth_mall
23:32.22zaksomeone save me from insanity
23:32.27zaki HATE the ITLL
23:35.03scanlime:(
23:53.04darth_mallthat's why god invented PSPs
23:55.45scanlimeYou should write a book, Fry. People need to know about the CAN EAT MORE.
23:56.12darth_mallindeed

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