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00:15.14ChipX86damn laptop
00:16.47file[laptop]ChipX86: what now?
00:16.48kergothi need to go through all my cds, get them into jewel cases, and put them in my new cd case
00:16.48kergothhmm
00:18.19ChipX86file[laptop]: same old
00:18.27ChipX86just stops working
00:18.34file[laptop]ah
00:20.36ChipX86uh oh, I think my securid fell into the couch
00:21.08ChipX86nope
00:21.15ChipX86wonder where I put it
00:21.38darth_mallscanlime: yay potatoes!
00:27.32scanlimeok, this windows problem is annoying. Time to quit while I'm ahead
00:27.43ChipX86well.. this is no good
00:29.01ChipX86yay
00:29.09ChipX86it was in the couch. Just not in the areas I thought it would have been
00:32.24purple_cowhrmph
00:32.26purple_cowcan't get the gentoo livecd to boot ><
00:32.32darth_malluhoh
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00:42.29nullpuppyyay, just like Salem.
00:44.15CIA-5smrt: 03evan * r116 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: User Interaction section is ready for review by the rest of the group.
00:48.41purple_cowyay for distro isos on bittorrent
00:49.36purple_cowit's about damn time i could download these at my linespeed
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00:55.31ChipX86"You're going to go to a very special level of hell, a level they reserve for child molestors, and people who talk in theaters."
00:55.34ChipX86that quote is awesome
00:55.41ChipX86I'm now getting all these quotes you guys keep spatting out :)
00:56.14kergothhehe
00:56.18kergothi love that quote
00:57.33ChipX86I love the main character's expressions
00:59.53nullpuppy:)
01:00.04nullpuppyI love jayne in this episode ;)
01:00.39darth_mallnullpuppy: which?
01:00.45darth_mallOur Mrs. Reynolds?
01:00.49nullpuppyour mrs reynolds
01:00.51nullpuppyyeah :)
01:01.14nullpuppy"If I could make you prettier, I would!"
01:01.23darth_mallthey can say, "ass", "bitch", and "whore", but they can't say "shit"?
01:01.40nullpuppyguess so, yay FCC!
01:02.04darth_mallhmm... maybe get on to makin' dinner...
01:02.05ChipX86I like how they speak in what sounds like an asian language sometimes
01:02.16nullpuppyChinese? :)
01:02.23ChipX86is it chinese? ah.
01:02.28nullpuppyyup
01:02.54kergoth"Can you not do that while we're.... ever?"
01:03.00kergothgod i love this show
01:03.08nullpuppy:)
01:03.08ChipX86it's really good
01:03.18nullpuppyyay!
01:03.24kergothlol.. he looks better in red :)
01:03.36kergothhehe
01:03.57darth_malllooks like kergoth's on the same ep as me
01:04.10kergothindeed
01:08.53ChipX86"Oh I'm going to go to the special hell."
01:09.01kergothhehe
01:09.19ChipX86uh oh!
01:09.43scanlimewoo
01:09.59scanlimeN64/snes s-video, GC component, and dreamcast s-video cables
01:10.30purple_cow:)
01:10.38ChipX86nice
01:11.16scanlimeooh, this component cable comes in a box all labeled in japanese
01:11.43scanlimemy god..
01:11.52scanlimewhat is it with component video cables and huge plugs?
01:12.27ChipX86the wife be bad
01:12.55nullpuppyvery :)
01:12.55scanlimeoven's hot! potato time!
01:13.12file[laptop]scanlime: what potato-based food are you having today?
01:14.53ChipX86oh pfft, they were about to kiss
01:15.53nullpuppyChipX86: with Saffron and Inara? :)
01:16.10ChipX86Inara is the ex-wife?
01:16.10kergoth"For this to work, river and i will have to be dead."  "I'm starting to like this plan."
01:16.19scanlimefile: just making another baked potato
01:16.33nullpuppyChipX86: Inara is the Companion ..
01:16.40ChipX86oh, Saffron is the ex-wife?
01:17.02nullpuppyshe's the one that married Mal in this episode
01:17.13ChipX86then yes
01:18.26scanlimeoooh
01:18.43scanlimecomponent video on the gamecube was definitely worth this overpriced cable
01:19.14nullpuppyah, Vera, I love that scene :) damn commercials
01:22.13scanlimewow that's annoying..
01:22.23ChipX86?
01:22.32scanlimeyou have to hold down the B button while booting the cube, every time, to get a menu that lets you switch from 480I to 480p
01:22.38ChipX86ewww
01:22.50ChipX86that seems very weird
01:23.09scanlimeyeah. nintendo really botched the HD support on the cube
01:23.14kergothDoom looks like its gonna be awfully disappointing, even with my expectations as low as they are
01:23.16kergoth:\
01:23.18scanlimeyou have to import the cables
01:24.07scanlimedamn...
01:24.15scanlimeI've never seen the GC look this good
01:26.01scanlimehmm
01:26.18scanlimeI think monkey ball automatically detected the component cable, it gave me the dialog without having to hold down B
01:29.29purple_cowhrmph
01:29.38purple_cowthis iso might be downloaded by the time wine finishes installing :P
01:32.02ChipX86hah, the ending was funny
01:32.20nullpuppy:)
01:33.03ChipX86"Bye now. Have good sex!"
01:33.25nullpuppyhehe
01:34.03darth_mallblah... so much work...
01:34.08kergothi vote we make that a standard goodbye
01:34.12ChipX86argh
01:34.14ChipX86what is going on here
01:34.15kergoth"later boss, have good sex"
01:34.41nullpuppyhaha, thats an excellent idea.
01:42.31ChipX86"You don't 'fix' the bible." "It's broken. It doesn't make sense."
01:42.44kergothlol
01:42.46kergothi love that part
01:44.45nullpuppy:)
01:45.42ChipX86gah
01:45.59ChipX86silly thing isn't working
01:46.03kergothi love that these zombies drop nightcrawlers
01:46.15ChipX86:)
01:46.17ChipX86I might play soon
01:46.23ChipX86got to do a full build before I can test this again
01:48.35ChipX86wowee
01:48.40ChipX86federico is performing cool magic on the file chooser
01:49.17ChipX860.818s on startup down to 0.366s
01:50.56darth_mallblaaaaaaah
01:50.57darth_mallstupid homewokr
01:56.49scanlimemmm, nice and simple
01:58.22kergothhee
01:58.29kergothnext time you stab me int he back, have the guts to do it to my face
01:58.50nullpuppykergoth: hehe :)
01:59.14nullpuppydamn this brilliant show :)  I needed to work today... ;)
02:00.10darth_mallyay! it's the Serenity special
02:00.16nullpuppyyay :)
02:03.31darth_malluhoh
02:03.36darth_mallsounds like drama outside
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02:05.36darth_mallhaha
02:05.39darth_mallwhat a great way to put it
02:05.51darth_mall"the only question to the crew is: is this snow white and the 7 dwarves, or is this alien?"
02:06.31darth_mallI have a feeling this is going to be one of those movie that I wet myself at during the opening sequence ^^
02:06.42scanlime=)
02:07.20nullpuppyhehe :)
02:08.30CIA-5BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/platform/WinVisual.cxx: doin't do the swap PFD, some stuff dosn't like it ( lapys )
02:08.38purple_cowok, time to try this new CD
02:09.44scanlimeWoman, you are completely off your nut!
02:23.34purple_cowgood lord this is being a pain
02:24.48lurgyaha
02:25.07lurgyso you're the one telling the good lord what's going on down here
02:26.02purple_cowheh
02:26.04purple_cowyep
02:29.41darth_mallawww... Firefly marathon is over
02:30.06ChipX86that's not the whole series though, right?
02:31.10nullpuppynot sure, I don't think so...
02:31.20nullpuppywhats the last epsisode thats shown?
02:31.32ChipX86I htink it's Out of Gas
02:31.56nullpuppyk, theres still like.. 4 that they dow't show then
02:32.01nullpuppy*don't
02:32.16darth_mallhrm... do I want to take time to make dinner tonight?
02:32.29purple_cowit's been a long time since i had to mknod :P
02:32.47nullpuppyerm 6 episodes :)
02:34.23darth_mallhehe... tubby Jerry Oconnol
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02:44.06scanlimealso... I can kill you with my brain
02:45.09kergothhehe
02:45.53file[laptop]yay death
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02:52.37za1bleh
02:52.58lurgyholy kow
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02:53.03lurgyyou just fell on aerosmith
02:54.22zakow
02:55.09purple_cowok, time to find out just how much of a lunix ninja i am
02:55.27lurgyhehe
02:55.31zakpurple_cow: you are an amazing lunix ninja
02:56.20darth_mallzak: you fell on aerosmith?
02:56.24darth_malldid you hurt any of them?
02:56.59zakask lurgy
02:57.03zakonly he got gone
02:57.06darth_mallwell, one can always hope
02:57.32zakbut then, i don't see aerosmith at all
02:57.33darth_malltoo bad
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02:58.44zakgrrr
02:58.46zakdead time
02:59.01nullpuppyI HAVE SERENITY TICKETS!
02:59.09zakfor when?
02:59.38nullpuppy10:20pm on friday
02:59.41nullpuppyi work until 8
02:59.43nullpuppyso.. yeah ;)
03:00.21zak__ooo look
03:00.30zak__it's like i am in two places at once
03:00.34zak__DEATH!!!
03:00.48purple_cowgrr
03:01.50darth_mallzak: so when you goes to get tickets, count me in
03:02.05darth_mallI'm pretty sure I can get you cash, but I'll probably need my id to get around
03:02.16zakdarth_mall: can i get an ID and monies?
03:03.22purple_cowpff, getting around is for chumps
03:03.32zakpurple_cow: how is that lunix coming?
03:03.35purple_cowohh, apparently i need to create the sr0 node and then boot off ram0 :P
03:03.48purple_cowok, time to reboot again
03:03.55gentooouch!
03:04.30darth_mallzak: it doesn't matter when you need. I can give you money, but I need my id to ride the bus
03:04.54darth_mallpurple_cow: what are you doing?
03:05.36zakdarth_mall: it doesn't matter to me, but I can't get you student price with out it
03:06.01filehow much of a discount do you get?
03:06.21zak'bout $2
03:06.22darth_mallI'll bet if you go and ask for a bunch of student tickets, they'll give them to you
03:06.27zaknope
03:06.29zaki have tried that
03:06.35zakthey need an id for every ticket
03:06.40darth_mallhalf the time I ask for student tickets and they don't even ask to see an id
03:06.52zakhowever, you might be able to swap the night of
03:06.55zaki can try it
03:07.01zakbut i doubt it will work
03:07.26darth_mallit doesn't matter anyway, because it'll probably cost me as much or more to pay for the bus/gas as I would save on the ticket
03:09.04ChipX86scanlime: 141 files in my changeset
03:09.25scanlimeChipX86: woo... and that's taking how many years to get into main? :)
03:09.30scanlimemmmmmm this potato came out great
03:09.33ChipX86scanlime: tonight
03:09.43scanlime1:45 in the oven.. nice and soft
03:09.46ChipX86it's not as big as it seems
03:09.50scanlimelots of cheese and onion
03:10.05ChipX86#include "vmwareGTK/foo" -> #include <libview/foo> and s/vmwareGtk::/view::/g are the highlights
03:10.30scanlimeooh, fancy :P
03:10.52scanlimewell.. uh... mine's basically just s/uhci*, int port/port*/
03:10.55scanlime:P
03:10.59scanlimebut it takes a lot of code to do that
03:11.05purple_cowhrmph, still no love
03:12.44scanlimenow for psychology, that don't sound half dumb
03:13.53zakdarth_mall: i just called, you win
03:14.34scanlimepooootaaatooo
03:15.15darth_mallzak: called who?
03:15.48darth_mallugh... my homework hates me
03:16.23hardwiretacos hate you
03:16.44filehardwire: you have seen the dark force... now you must surrender...
03:16.44scanlimetacos hate potato... they're jealous
03:17.14scanlimegoddamnit
03:17.19hardwirefile: yeh.. something like that
03:17.26hardwirescanlime: its not yours to stab
03:17.28filehardwire: you do realize why we're doing it though?
03:17.36hardwirefile: I have heard the fights
03:17.42filegood good
03:17.49hardwirefile: at the same time.. I would love to get an 8a grant to hire 10 people to just fucking do this
03:17.59hardwireI could giet a million for a years development on this
03:18.05filehardwire: look for me hacking up chan_sip and maybe a completely new SIP channel driver
03:18.20hardwirefile: yeh..
03:18.48hardwirelook for me screaming as I cry about non wideband codecs
03:19.05filewideband I believe is on the list
03:19.22hardwirefile: 16 and 32?
03:19.32hardwireor just plain variable with a neat re-sampler.
03:19.42hardwireI really like how speex works
03:19.52hardwireif its 8000hz only.. use only the bottom 8000hz :)
03:20.04hardwireotherwise pass the next band of 8000hz
03:20.07hardwireas well
03:20.09filedunno yet, but I have an idea as to how to actually deal with it in the core - expand the audio stuff on channels into structures so you can add properties and stuff
03:20.26hardwireI would really love to see a rewrite
03:20.36hardwireok.. 1:15 away from pizza
03:20.42filethen expand the transcoder for wideband capability as wlel
03:20.44fileer well
03:20.46hardwireI have to remember to be downstairs to recieve my yummy nummys
03:20.51filelol
03:20.59hardwireI am on the 4th floor
03:21.12hardwireand the building here is not at all wanting to fund me putting an intercom doorphone up
03:21.52hardwireI just want to be loved.. thats all
03:22.12hardwirethere is really something missing from sip IMHO
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03:22.28hardwirefor instance.. I should be able to multicast a loooot of this crap
03:22.29hardwiresay
03:22.43hardwireI start up a multicast with UID 110 and it has a billion comamnds in it
03:22.54hardwireI should get little unicast 200 ok's referencing the UID
03:23.00hardwirefrom each phone
03:23.03filehaha
03:23.09hardwireand then be able to send unicast ones to all that don't
03:23.15hardwireits so much more effecient
03:23.25hardwiredon't laugh
03:23.27filethere is something I'm contemplating in regards to channels
03:23.31fileand locking.
03:23.40hardwiremommy file is laughing at me
03:23.54fileyou could expand SIP if you wanted :P
03:23.56laodamasYay my CMOS is fixed!
03:24.00hardwirefile: I have 50 sip notifies that need to go to 30 extensions..
03:24.03hardwireits just not effecient
03:24.13hardwireefficient.
03:24.17laodamasand all it took was the CMOS whitepaper, a couple of cut traces and some soldering :)
03:24.17hardwirehowever its spelled
03:24.25hardwirescanlime: dude
03:24.36hardwireand by dude.. I mean.. you
03:25.02darth_mallhmm
03:25.24hardwirehave you witnessed the incredible.. non-edible.. Model 333 Theora capable camera?
03:25.46hardwirehttp://www.elphel.com/
03:25.48laodamasfoxconn routed the motherboard in such a way that prevented reflashing the BIOS under certain circumstances
03:25.59hardwireI am goign to be grabbing one to .. analyze it for future use ..
03:26.19scanlime?
03:26.22hardwirehttp://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3888835064.html
03:26.25hardwirethats a better link
03:26.38scanlimeoh, I remember reading about that
03:26.40scanlimecool device
03:26.45scanlimemmm
03:26.47hardwireit can do on the fly theora encoded video (no motion-vectors) at 1280x1024x30fps
03:26.49scanlimethat was a yummy potato
03:26.52scanlimehardwire: yup
03:26.59hardwireor 640x480xinsanefps
03:27.01filehardwire: they use the same Xilinx chip that's on the Digium stuff
03:27.09hardwireI talked to him.. he said he could adjust the FPS for me
03:27.13hardwireand tell me how
03:27.15hardwirewhich made me happy
03:27.21hardwireso I plan to get it working over sat connections
03:27.28hardwirebut damnit if it isn't amazingly clear
03:27.45hardwireno feilds.. just plain happy quick digitised images.. and its cheap..
03:28.10hardwirethis little camera.. is going to be hooked up to a very large lens to watch dogfights near a military airfeild
03:28.12hardwireif it works well
03:28.25hardwirefile: so the t1 processor is FPGA?
03:28.46hardwirescanlime: how did you cook the potato?
03:28.57filehardwire: yeah, they use a xilinx spartan 2
03:29.08hardwirefile: I just can't wait to get this camera in
03:29.15hardwireand hire somebody to make it sip capable :)
03:29.18fileuh oh
03:29.19scanlimehardwire: baked, with sour cream, cheese, and green onion
03:29.24hardwiresoudns nummy indeed
03:29.32scanlimeyup
03:29.35hardwirescanlime: have you ever steamed a potato?
03:29.44scanlimeno.. sounds like it would take forever
03:29.49hardwireI make lots of potato burritos.. and they take forever to boil
03:29.50hardwireactually
03:29.59hardwiresteaming them takes 25% as long as boiling
03:30.07hardwireand they turn out a lot fluffier of course
03:30.10scanlimenice
03:30.22hardwirebetter for throwing on a griddle and making nummy burrito guts out of
03:30.25hardwireanyhoot
03:30.34hardwireI recommend buying a steamer insert for most pots
03:30.39hardwirefor hot dogs and sausages anyways
03:30.47hardwirebut recently its been just potatos
03:30.50hardwirecut up botatos
03:30.54hardwirepotato..
03:30.58scanlimemmmm
03:31.02scanlimeI should try that
03:31.05hardwireyou should
03:31.08hardwireit goes quick
03:31.13hardwireand season the fuckers before you steam em
03:31.17scanlime:)
03:31.18hardwirejust to make it arominate.
03:31.25scanlimehmm.. potato fucker...
03:31.35hardwireI made a kick ass Pesto sauce the other day
03:31.37hardwireWITH MY ULU
03:31.39hardwireI was all happy
03:31.43scanlimeULU?
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03:31.55hardwirenullpuppy: fruit fucker?
03:31.59hardwirescanlime: do you make it
03:32.02david_take that, gentoo!
03:32.06hardwirecause I would dig knowing your method if so
03:32.06scanlimehardwire: no, but I want to try
03:32.08nullpuppyhardwire: yeah, from penny arcade...
03:32.08hardwireah
03:32.13hardwireits really really easy
03:32.18scanlimelooks it
03:32.21hardwireyou would be surprised if you aren't already
03:32.30hardwirebut the ulu is the moon shaped blade eskimo use
03:32.35scanlimeblend up some basil, olive oil, and a coule odds and ends I suspect...
03:32.39scanlimeah, cool
03:32.40hardwireI bought all the herbs that go into pesto
03:32.52hardwireand ulu'd them since its really easy to dice them like that
03:32.56hardwireand make a paste if you want to
03:33.01hardwirethen yeh.. a little olive oil
03:33.07hardwirebut I added garlic alfredo to the mix
03:33.12hardwireas the cream substitute
03:33.18hardwireand mixed it all up
03:33.20scanlimenice
03:33.25hardwirethen added fettuchini
03:33.26hardwireand oh
03:33.32hardwirea shitload of shredded parmesian
03:33.36hardwirethats the good part
03:33.49hardwireand mixed it all around in my big old sauce pan
03:33.54hardwireoh
03:33.55hardwirethe best part
03:34.01scanlime:)
03:34.07hardwireis these crazy roasted peppers in olive oil
03:34.14hardwirethat you add in once you mix all the ingredients
03:34.19scanlimewhat kind of pepper?
03:34.36hardwiredo you like kim chi?
03:35.00scanlimeI don't think "like" is quite the right word...
03:35.04hardwirelove?
03:35.05scanlimeI can tolerate it in small amounts
03:35.07scanlime:P
03:35.08hardwireoh
03:35.10hardwirewell
03:35.17hardwirewell hold on
03:35.58hardwireI can't find it
03:36.07hardwirecanned roasted red pepper in olive oil
03:36.20hardwirenext to the oils and ketchup in most stores
03:36.21hardwireeither way
03:36.23hardwireits the shizzy
03:36.39hardwirethrow those little happy peppers in and viola you are the cook of the week
03:36.43hardwireok.. done ranting about food
03:36.46hardwirethis is why I have a gut now
03:37.06scanlimerofl.. vinyl snake covers
03:37.18scanlimehardwire: :)
03:38.06hardwirethats so mean
03:38.11hardwireWhere is mommy map
03:38.20nullpuppyhehe :)
03:38.34nullpuppy"Do you have hos in multiple area codes?"
03:39.17hardwireheh
03:39.19scanlime:)
03:39.25hardwirethey totally composited the snake cover thing
03:39.32hardwireoh nm
03:39.41nullpuppyhmm?
03:39.43hardwirethats glue
03:39.45hardwirenot snake
03:39.46nullpuppyyeah
03:39.52hardwireI mixed that up with a cable hider
03:40.00scanlime"Protects snakes from rain, leaves, and bugs"
03:40.01hardwirebut I remembered seeing this garage sealer thing too..
03:40.14hardwirefucking snake
03:40.44hardwirefile: so you are the pbxfreeware -> openPBX guy right now?
03:41.03file...yes?
03:41.08hardwirewell .. where is the other apps :)
03:41.14david_hmm
03:41.18fileit's not even supposed to be out yet :)
03:41.19david_unleashed is a very interesting film so far
03:41.21hardwireI need app_valetparking
03:41.28filebut everything will be brought in soon
03:41.39fileI need to push some directed pickup updates/mods into SVN too...
03:41.43hardwireyou know.. I don't even know what valetparking offers
03:41.55fileit gives you greater control over parking
03:41.58hardwireok
03:42.05hardwireyou need to do PickupChan
03:42.08fileso you know how with normal parking you transfer to 700, and it gives it a number?
03:42.08hardwirePickup
03:42.11hardwireand PickupGroup
03:42.16hardwireas well as PickupQueue :)
03:42.18filehehe
03:42.29hardwireuntil today
03:42.39hardwirewe didn't have "Pickup" working for our inbound queues
03:42.42hardwirewell
03:42.50zakok, so i need tickets for me, kendra, nik, rich, micah, david, evan, dan, christy..
03:42.52hardwireI converted from 1.0.9.. lost it in 1.2.0 and now CVS has pickup
03:42.54zakanyone else?
03:42.55hardwireso now its back and working
03:42.56hardwirebut bleh..
03:43.09fileyes, my Pickup - and now you owe me a beer
03:43.17hardwireits like 50 lines
03:43.21hardwireyou get a shot
03:43.34filehey - I had to be creative!
03:43.37hardwireheh
03:44.27hardwire<PROTECTED>
03:44.35filehow does it know the vendor?
03:44.51hardwirei: 3c26700d3a98-y8gyxw01lg0x@snom360
03:44.54filethe only thing that can be known about the phone in regards to vendor is the user agent
03:44.55hardwirefrom a sip header
03:45.01fileyeah but that's not a standard
03:45.04hardwireso user agent
03:45.06hardwire:)
03:45.06hardwirewell
03:45.14fileuser agent is kept in memory.
03:45.15scanlimezak: Mike Wong might be interested in coming, he's going to talk to you tomorrow
03:45.18hardwirefile: where?
03:45.22filedo a sip show peer
03:45.29zakkk
03:45.41hardwire<PROTECTED>
03:45.42hardwiresweet
03:45.52hardwirehah
03:45.56hardwireI should show a peer thats online
03:45.56scanlime"That's the whore house? How come it looks like a frozen dinner pack?"
03:46.05hardwire<PROTECTED>
03:46.07hardwirecool
03:46.10hardwirewell that works for me
03:46.14file<PROTECTED>
03:46.14hardwirenow I can write my app
03:46.28zakscanlime: so longs as he gets me by 2
03:46.29hardwirethere seem to be a few apps that like knowing this information :)
03:46.44fileyou have to remember chan_sip stuff isn't accessible by default outside of chan_sip
03:46.50hardwireman I want my pizza
03:47.05hardwirefile: where you going with that?
03:47.16hardwireyou mean remote lookups?
03:47.16scanlimezak: he's on AIM  now.. I can have him bug you earlier
03:47.21fileeverything is contained within the module
03:47.30hardwireah
03:47.32zakwhat is his IM?
03:47.32hardwireyes
03:47.40hardwirefile: so app_something.c cannot get that info
03:47.45filecorrect
03:47.46hardwireeven if it somehow has a way to queury the pbx
03:47.54hardwirewith a sip show peer command
03:48.07fileyou could export a function from chan_sip
03:48.08hardwiremaybe I should write this as a manager/api based app first
03:48.20hardwirefile: SipGetUserAgent()
03:49.56david_oh no! there's no lynx on zero!
03:50.26scanlimeoh no!
03:50.29scanlimethere's probably elinks
03:50.32scanlimeand even maybe links
03:50.49david_ah, that's easier than installing it
03:53.17CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r9015 10loopy/ (loopy.c soya-icon.py): Add GLX display/drawable/context tracking. There is no Python interface to this and probably won't ever be (aside from maybe as a CObject) but it will be necessary to implement a RenderTarget object a la SDL 1.3
03:53.25zakdavid_: i don't suppose you are anywhere near cory are you?
03:53.55CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r9016 10loopy/soya-icon.py: Whoops, accidentally committed some crufty blur experiments
03:54.09david_zak: maybe?
03:54.15ChipX86oohh
03:54.19david_he's not over at my apartment if that's what you mean
03:54.24zaklol
03:54.24ChipX8673,000 more points on amtrak and I get a free cruise!
03:54.24zakok
03:54.31fileChipX86: free is good
03:54.31ChipX86I'm at 2,000. I'm getting there.
03:54.43nullpuppyhehe
03:54.47scanlimeChipX86: I don't think a cruise train would be all that safe...
03:55.11scanlimeoh yea... I was about to forget my other idea for loopy
03:55.20ChipX86wtf
03:55.30ChipX86the limit per year you can spend is 25,000 points
03:55.33ChipX86but the cruise is 75,000
03:56.36scanlimeit has to be a really long cruise?
03:57.13darth_mallhah
03:57.16darth_mallthat's great
03:57.17ChipX86I guess you just pay it off over 3 years
03:57.20ChipX86with.. points..
03:57.24david_ok, time to see how badly i screwed this up
03:57.24darth_mallmaybe no one was supposed to notice...
03:58.58hardwirefile: alright.. I am calling it SipGetPeerData(peer, peerdata)
03:59.11hardwirewith an wrapper for SipGetUserData
03:59.15hardwirean/a
04:00.38darth_mallyay for more tests passing
04:06.02hardwirebleh
04:06.03hardwiremoo
04:06.05hardwirebleh
04:06.10hardwireI want my pizza damnit
04:07.06scanlime<kaylee> Did the captain seem a little funny at breakfast this morning?  <wash> Oh Kaylee, we all know I'm the funny one.
04:07.14kergothhehe
04:07.17nullpuppyhehe
04:08.28kergothhttp://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua/Deepcopy .. whee, non-recursing deepcopy() method for lua objects
04:10.45david_yep, screwed up reasonably bad
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04:22.34darth_mallwish I knew what was wrong with this goal state calculation
04:23.08ChipX86oh wow
04:23.21ChipX86VMware Workstation 5.0 is on gnomefiles
04:23.26david_wowie
04:23.27ChipX8615th most popular
04:23.29david_unleashed is awesome :)
04:23.46ChipX86http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=945
04:23.46nullpuppy:)
04:23.47ChipX86everyone vote!
04:24.17file[laptop]ChipX86: just for you, I will!
04:25.12hardwireomfg
04:25.13hardwirepizza
04:25.16hardwireits so melty
04:25.18hardwireand wonderfull
04:25.25kergothyep
04:25.33hardwireI was so excited I went tot he basement in the elevator when I got it
04:25.37hardwireI work ont he 4th floor
04:25.42hardwirewhat .. was I thinking?
04:25.50ChipX86ooh and click the download link. You don't have to download it
04:26.15hardwirekergoth: how you doooiiin
04:26.29hardwirefile: SipGetPeerData is almost done :)
04:26.38file[laptop]hardwire: uh oh
04:26.54hardwireyou bet your sweet uh oh ass
04:26.57hardwireso
04:27.04hardwireI need to learn more about this however
04:27.11hardwireyou register an application
04:27.15hardwireand utoher applications can use it
04:27.29hardwireotherwise.. you can't just call sip_get_data_of_doom() from chan_sip.c
04:27.33hardwireerr
04:27.39hardwireto chan_sip.c .. from app_fuckmenot.c
04:27.47file[laptop]that's why we have resources
04:27.52hardwireok
04:27.54hardwireI added a resource
04:28.25hardwirevoip001*CLI> show application SIPGetPeerData
04:28.25hardwirevoip001*CLI>
04:28.25hardwire<PROTECTED>
04:28.25hardwire[Synopsis]
04:28.26hardwireGet Peer data (Accountcode, UserAgent, Codecs, ...) about a specific peer
04:29.15hardwireoh jesus
04:29.21hardwireI should save some pizza for mi amore
04:29.26hardwirebut I just don't want to
04:36.26CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r9017 10loopy/blank-slate/ (. Makefile blank-slate.c): Add a little standalone SDL app that can be used as a target app for developing Loopy overlays
04:37.38scanlimeAnd if wishes were horses we'd all be eating stake!
04:37.41scanlimeer, steak
04:37.56ChipX86I wish that were true
04:38.03scanlimeI think I have a problem with my brain being missing
04:41.55lurgyooh ooh
04:42.01lurgywallace and gromit a week from friday
04:42.02lurgy:D
04:43.19hardwireI hate C
04:43.23hardwireonly because I never use it
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04:43.39zakhehehe
04:43.42zakhttp://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/591.asp
04:43.44hardwirelike
04:43.46hardwiregrr
04:44.56hardwirehi file
04:45.08file[laptop]greetings
04:45.09purple_cowzak: there was a similar story a few months ago about a couple swans
04:45.24hardwireI have to make a fake file descriptor
04:45.26hardwireheh
04:46.00hardwirefor instance
04:46.04file[laptop]I'm not gonna ask what you're doing.
04:46.07hardwiresip_show_peer() uses fd
04:46.08purple_cowapparently there's some lake in boston that has a pair of mated swans, and someone finally looked and they were both female
04:46.11hardwirefor asc_cli(fd)
04:46.17hardwireerr. ast_cli(fd,...)
04:46.22file[laptop]indeed, it outputs to it
04:46.29hardwirecan I make fd a variable?
04:46.36lurgyhttp://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/
04:46.41hardwirefrom the function calling _sip_show_peer(...)
04:46.45file[laptop]no, no you can't
04:46.50hardwirewell why the heck not?
04:47.06file[laptop]it doesn't work like that.
04:47.10hardwirefine
04:47.16hardwirethen I will just have to copy the guts of this function
04:51.57zaklurgy: well, if you don't want a ticket... ^_^
04:53.41lurgyheh
04:54.02lurgywhy?
04:55.39hardwireif char *request = NULL;
04:55.43hardwire... if(!request || request == "name")
04:55.59hardwirewill that if segfault me if request is null?
04:56.12purple_cownope
04:56.28hardwireit will just be false and all is good?
04:56.30scanlimeuh
04:56.38scanlimedon't compare strings like that unless you're overloading ==
04:56.44scanlimethat compares the pointers
04:56.51hardwirestrcmp()?
04:56.59scanlimeit will only pass if request happens to point to the same copy of "name" that the compiler is using on the other side of the equals
04:57.00scanlimeyes
04:57.10purple_cowscanlime: it works if request points to the string in .data ;-)
04:57.22scanlimepurple_cow: it's not guaranteed to across different object files
04:57.40purple_cowscanlime: uhhuh. just saying that there's a possibility
04:57.43scanlimenod
04:58.59purple_cowof course, unless that was his intent, it's wrong
04:59.32hardwirescanlime: sooo.. I have char *peerdata = Null;.. how do I initialize that a a string for the most part and start appending data to it :)
04:59.41hardwirewell
04:59.43hardwire= ""
05:00.14darth_mallmoo
05:00.23purple_cowoom
05:00.53hardwirestrcat.
05:00.54hardwiredoh
05:01.00scanlimehardwire: maybe you want a different language :)
05:01.06hardwireno choice in the matter :)
05:01.10hardwireI really suck at C don't I
05:01.13scanlimehardwire: you need memory to put the string into...
05:01.15hardwireI really suck at most things :)
05:01.38darth_mallwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
05:01.45hardwirestrcat will malloc for me right?
05:01.46darth_mallI think my AI homework works!
05:02.18purple_cowwow. i think i might get this drive swapped out tonight
05:02.19purple_cowhardwire: no
05:03.15file[laptop]strdup will... but probably not what you want
05:03.49hardwirefile[laptop]: not entirely
05:04.55scanlimehardwire: it is very dangerous to process strings in C if you don't know what you're doing- please familiarize yourself on how arrays and pointers in C work and read about the security concerns before writing anything that touches the internet
05:05.21hardwireI know the disclaimer scanlime
05:05.27scanlimemmmmmkay...
05:05.30hardwirenot a total doof
05:05.34purple_cowpff
05:05.35hardwireI just don't remember the functions
05:05.37darth_mallwell... maybe it's not
05:05.39purple_cowbuffer overflows make the world go round
05:05.44kergothhehe
05:05.46hardwireits been years since I touched C
05:06.07hardwirebut I am security enough minded about buf overflow
05:06.20hardwirethe problem is scanlime .. I can see tons of bad uses of strcat all over this code
05:06.22hardwireits pretty bad
05:06.50file[laptop]what are you looking at, chan_sip?
05:06.55scanlimehardwire: if you think you can strcat onto a "", something's wrong ;)
05:06.59hardwireapp.c in channels
05:07.16hardwirescanlime: don't prick on me :)
05:07.27hardwireI atleast asked if it worked w/ malloc
05:07.43file[laptop]anyway - goodnight
05:07.44hardwireand I am not using it until I find a better way .. or the standard way of doing this
05:07.49hardwirefile[laptop]: night
05:08.13hardwirefile[laptop]: just look for strcat in the source for.. asterisk
05:08.16hardwireits kinda freaky
05:08.21scanlimehardwire: the tricky part about string processing in C is that you have to know how much memory you need before you know how much memory you need
05:08.32hardwirebut you can realloc and copy
05:08.35hardwireits just slow
05:08.37hardwirebut.. safe.
05:08.45scanlimehardwire: so you either allocate a static buffer and truncate stuff if that runs out, or you do a separate pass beforehand to calculate the size, or you grow the buffer...
05:09.02scanlimeno need to copy if you realloc
05:09.04purple_cowor you make your life easy and add a glib dependency
05:09.20hardwirehah
05:09.33scanlimeor you make your life a living hell and write 10000 lines of C to do what 5 lines of perl could do
05:09.44purple_cowthat too
05:14.20hardwiresnprintf(peerdata, sizeof(peerdata), "%s", peerdata);
05:14.20hardwireheh
05:14.24hardwireis that at all valid?
05:14.39ChipX86no
05:14.40hardwireI hate trying to remember how things work w/ C :)
05:14.46scanlimeexcept for the part where your source and destination are the same and it accomplishes nothing...
05:14.48ChipX86you can't copy peerdata into itself
05:14.48kergothsizeof() isnt going to return the length of the string, but the size of the pointer
05:14.54kergothand that too
05:14.57hardwireoh yeh
05:14.59hardwirewell
05:14.59scanlimekergoth: that's what you want for snprintf though
05:14.59hardwirecrap
05:15.06scanlimekergoth: assuming it's an array
05:15.09ChipX86sizeof() will only work if it's a buffer, like char foo[256];
05:15.16hardwireits a buffer
05:15.25ChipX86and if you're just going to be copying a string (as shown by "%s"), just use strdup
05:15.39ChipX86that is, if you really do need a duplicate of that string
05:15.52hardwireactually
05:16.03hardwiresnprintf(peerdata, sizeof(peerdata), "%s %s", peerdata, otherdata);
05:16.07hardwireis what I wanted to accomplish
05:16.10ChipX86you can't use peerdata
05:16.16hardwireI know that
05:16.20hardwirejust .. referencing :)
05:16.24ChipX86bad reference :P
05:16.34hardwireit worked for me in NAM!
05:16.47ChipX86no it didn't
05:16.58hardwirecan I strcat a buffer to a sprintf()?
05:17.03scanlimeyou were too drunk in nam to remember it blowing up in your face
05:17.07ChipX86can you what?
05:17.52hardwireah
05:17.52hardwirenm
05:18.12hardwireI could have sworn there was a "char ?printf()" function
05:18.22hardwirethat just returned a char buffer
05:18.23scanlime?
05:18.33scanlimethere's a g_strdup_printf() in glib
05:18.33ChipX86g_strdup_printf in glib
05:18.38hardwireheh
05:20.29hardwiredamn
05:24.30darth_mallgaaaaaaa
05:24.32darth_mallwtf
05:26.33hardwireman
05:26.37hardwireI can't fucking code
05:26.40hardwirethis is just pathetic
05:35.32kergothonce again i'm getting motivated to code for fun again, and once again i'm losing my motivation to code at work.
05:35.41kergothi either need a new hobby or a new job
05:35.42kergothheh
05:35.45kergoths/job/career/
05:37.24hardwireyou could just suck people off all day
05:37.26hardwireand code at night
05:37.28hardwirepay the bills
05:37.50darth_mallhahahaha
05:38.01darth_mallthat's why I like it when hardwire's around =D
05:38.16scanlime:)
05:38.30kergothumm...  no
05:38.31kergothhehe
05:39.05kergothi have a bit of a dillemma.  i'd like to keep coding as a hobby, but i really, really like the money it brings in as a career
05:39.06kergoth:\
05:39.09kergothheh
05:39.13kergothbleh
05:39.32zakg'night all
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05:42.47CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r9018 10loopy/loopy.c: Stub out and document a new RenderTarget object, providing an easy API for pbuffers based on what SDL is going to include in 1.3
05:50.21purple_cowhmm
05:50.28purple_cowmaybe i shouldn't have done this over wireless...
05:52.09darth_malloh!
05:52.12darth_mallI think I know why!
05:53.25purple_cowat least it's 11g :P
05:54.36purple_cowgrumble
05:54.49purple_cowfor some reason i get the feeling daniel doesn't check his CU email more than once a week ><
05:58.08darth_mallwow... look at it go...
05:58.16darth_mallpurple_cow: =\
06:00.23hardwireok
06:00.26hardwirebeing forced to go home now
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06:23.38ChipX86damn laptop
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06:24.22hardwirei'm baaaack
06:25.53ChipX86I can't help but wonder what triggers this exactly
06:26.28ChipX86though I noticed the battery no longer indicates that it's recharging. Ever.
06:26.38purple_cowfun
06:26.40ChipX86it hangs around 95%, and then will eventually jump down to 0%
06:27.01ChipX86but then I unplug the power cable, unplug the battery, plug the battery back in, then the power cable, boot up, and it's back at the 95% or so
06:32.40ChipX86wow, ok, so scotch is not something I'm accustomed to
06:33.06scanlimeheheh
06:33.43scanlimeThere's nothing wrong with that food, the salt level was 10% less than a lethal dose!
06:33.48ChipX86:))
06:34.22purple_cowoh no! i shouldn't have had seconds!
06:35.40hardwireif(strcasecmp(request,"name"))
06:35.48hardwirerequest.. does.. equal name
06:35.59ChipX86request does not equal name
06:36.05hardwirewhy not!
06:36.11ChipX86<PROTECTED>
06:36.17hardwireeh?
06:36.17ChipX86-1, which means request is < "name"
06:36.18purple_cowstr*cmp returns 0 if the strings are equal
06:36.20ChipX860, meaning equal
06:36.23ChipX861, meaning greater than
06:36.23hardwirehah
06:36.27scanlimeand zero, meaning equal!
06:36.36purple_cowand 1, meaning greater than!
06:36.42scanlimebam!
06:36.51purple_cowhehe
06:37.11hardwireif(strcasecmp(request,"name") == 0)
06:37.15hardwirethat work?
06:37.23ChipX86yeah
06:37.29ChipX86whitespace is a good thing
06:37.50hardwirerawr?
06:37.53hardwireoh
06:38.01ChipX86if isn't a function ;)
06:38.19ChipX86of course, that's all a matter of opinion
06:38.53purple_cowwhitespace just makes svn checkouts take longer
06:39.00scanlimehehe
06:39.01ChipX86yeah, that's true
06:39.09ChipX86the space character takes more bytes than most characters
06:39.16scanlimealso takes longer to compile
06:39.19ChipX86yeah
06:39.38hardwireok
06:39.39hardwireall is well
06:40.01scanlimeit's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus
06:42.51hardwiremo
06:42.51hardwirefo
06:42.58hardwiremy dvd dl burner is wiggin
06:43.18hardwirebut its weird seeing dvd dl where the first pass takes up half the dvd.. the second takes up a quarter..
06:43.28hardwireodd seeing two diffferent write depths
06:45.06purple_cowwow, zed's speaking great english
06:45.08purple_cow<zed_> Khisanth, you're using utility tabs with 2.5.x? eeek! i smash can code on the ground and it broke into 1000 peice, im yet to put it back together
06:45.45ChipX86smash can code?
06:45.54purple_cowdunno
06:45.56ChipX86Zed smash can code! ARR!!
06:46.08purple_cowhe's australian, so english is his native language :P
06:46.30ChipX86is he learning from raster?
06:46.36purple_cowmight be
06:46.54scanlimehow useful.. I can create stereo pbuffers
06:46.57purple_cowthough raster tends to write mro lkies htis
06:58.43ChipX86headache needs to go away
07:00.35purple_cow:(
07:02.15darth_mallyay! there's a Neil Gaiman movie coming out this week
07:03.19scanlimeof only he had joined a mainstream religion, like oprahism or voodoo
07:12.35hardwirehttp://voip001.corp.tdxnet.com/asterisk-sipgetpeerdata.patch
07:12.36hardwirethere
07:12.38hardwiremy little code
07:12.47hardwirecut and paaaaste
07:12.59hardwireI hope all those strcmp's aren't uh.. the worst thing you could ever do
07:14.35hardwireI should probably lowercase all the chars then use == after some sanity checking
07:14.47scanlimeyou can't use == on strings
07:15.07scanlimeeven if the strings are exactly identical, the pointers will only be equal if they're occupying the same memory
07:15.13ChipX86+static char *descrip_sipgetpeerdata = ""
07:15.13ChipX86+"  SIPGetPeerData(peer|variable)\n"
07:15.16ChipX86you don't need the = ""
07:15.18ChipX86just =
07:15.37ChipX86strictly speaking, those should all be const char *, unless you plan to modify them
07:16.36ChipX86also, you're doing wayyy too many comparisons
07:16.38ChipX86those should be else if
07:16.48ChipX86request is never going to be two strings at once
07:17.49ChipX86you should be using strncat
07:18.14ChipX86I take that back. strncpy. I don't see any data going into peerdata before those if statements
07:18.30scanlimeall those strcpy()s worst-case are still going to be doing a lot of work
07:18.47scanlimeif you care about performance there at all, you'll want to use some kind of hash table or tree to search for matches
07:18.51ChipX86nod
07:19.40scanlimeif you don't care about performance, the neverending forest of strcmp() approach is sadly common :P
07:19.48ChipX86actually
07:20.01ChipX86all peerdata is ever used for is passing to another function
07:20.03ChipX86just use a const char * there
07:20.07ChipX86no strcats/strcpys needed
07:20.35hardwirescanlime: ok
07:21.02hardwireChipX86: the '=' is part of the template I used.
07:21.16ChipX86ok, well, the = is needed, but the "" after it is not
07:21.21hardwireok
07:21.25ChipX86C is smart enough to see that the string on the next line belongs to that variable
07:21.50hardwirestrncat?
07:21.55ChipX86no
07:21.57ChipX86don't even do that
07:22.02ChipX86you're copying data for no reason at all
07:22.08ChipX86peerdata should be: const char *peerdata;
07:22.16ChipX86and you should just assign peerdata to the value instead of copying a string
07:22.28ChipX86all you're ever doing is passing the string to another function anyway
07:22.39hardwireI wanted to require it to be a string
07:22.41ChipX86this way, you save yourself some memory, a string allocation and copy, and you simplify the code
07:22.44ChipX86it's going to be a string
07:22.45hardwiresome of those variables are not strings
07:22.49ChipX86you just shouldn't be duplicating the string
07:22.51ChipX86hrm
07:23.04hardwireatleast the ones I didn't include yet aren't
07:23.06ChipX86well, in that case, make a temp buffer, write to that, and assign the string
07:23.12hardwirehmm
07:23.13ChipX86it'll still optimize for most of the cases
07:23.26ChipX86the temp buffer can't be in the if statement though
07:23.28ChipX86and make those ifs else ifs
07:23.38hardwirewhy is that?
07:23.42ChipX86which?
07:23.46hardwireelse ifs
07:23.58ChipX86because right now, if you have 100 ifs, and one succeeds, you still have 100 ifs with 100 strcasecmps
07:24.06ChipX86there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to do that
07:24.10ChipX86request is only ever going to be one string
07:24.32scanlimeI wonder if C lets you do assignments inside of initializers...
07:24.32hardwireI see what you are saying
07:24.37hardwireanything thats a string.. pass it through
07:24.45hardwireotherwise make a temp buffer with snprintf
07:24.52hardwireor lay it out
07:24.57ChipX86yes. But the very first thing you should be doing is fixing the ifs
07:25.04hardwireoh yeh?
07:25.07hardwireok
07:25.09ChipX86nobody will ever accept a patch that has the ifs like that
07:25.10hardwireactually
07:25.12hardwireI disagree
07:25.19hardwirefirst .. and foremost.. I need to feed the dog
07:25.21hardwireand then go to bed
07:25.35purple_cowyay, finished syncing /home and /usr
07:25.46purple_cowtime to swap hard disks and sync back :P
07:26.40purple_cowhah
07:27.06ChipX86it's a good thing my neighbors decided to throw a big loud party
07:27.13ChipX86it's been a full day since they did that last
07:28.14CIA-5navi-misc: 03micah * r9019 10loopy/loopy.c: Yay, a surprisingly compact chunk of code to generate GLX attribute lists from a python keyword dict, using the current OpenGL context for defaults.
07:28.48scanlimedamn.. this must be 1/4 the size of the equivalent code in SDL :)
07:28.58scanlimeer.. lots smaller than that actually
07:29.13scanlimeand this doesn't have hardcoded buffer lengths
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08:43.38purple_coww00t
09:00.59purple_cownow all i have to do is wipe the old one and ship it back
09:01.00purple_cowhurray!
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15:40.13hardwirefile: NoOP(${SIPPEER(1534:useragent)})
15:40.18hardwireit was already in CVS
15:40.24hardwirebut as a function vs app
15:40.37hardwireso my patch meant nothing
15:46.33filehardwire: poor you
15:46.40hardwireyeh
15:46.41hardwirepoor me
15:46.50hardwireit looks like my code too
15:46.58hardwireonly the way chipx86 wanted me to do it
15:47.00hardwireso.. now I know
16:06.19file[laptop]hardwire: wideband man
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17:14.18scanlimehmm
17:14.59scanlimeMicrochip has some PICs with USB full-speed, in the same package as the little '16c745/765 I've been using a lot of
17:15.21scanlimeI could fairly easily upgrade my rasterwand to have a more sane protocol and better framerate :)
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17:35.07kergothmorning
17:36.07Caeafternoon :)
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17:50.26darth_mallguh
17:50.28darth_mallI hate this lab
17:54.07scanlimeI love this USB analyzer :)
17:56.44hardwireI bet you do
17:56.52hardwirefile[laptop]: rawr?
17:57.10filewoof
18:01.08hardwireits in the wall
18:01.13hardwirewideband.. man
18:03.01filehehe
18:03.44hardwirethis suuuuuuuucks
18:03.51hardwireI hade red alarms
18:03.55hardwirehade/hate
18:04.25hardwireso I am on a search for this drink: http://www.chaserenergy.com/
18:04.52filehow can I get the IP of an interface on a SunOS box?
18:04.55hardwirewe have none of the "Available Ats" in alaska
18:05.03hardwirefile: ip?
18:05.05fileI have never ever used SunOS in my life...
18:05.50numistfile: I recall on solaris ifconfig should work..  I have a book around here somewhere on sun admin
18:06.03filewell I tried, it wants an interface name I think
18:06.14numistwell thats helpful of them
18:06.22fileugh this would be much easier if I could find it on the IP list
18:06.47hardwiresudo nmap -sP subnet/mask
18:06.58hardwireit will return the nic type
18:07.04hardwirefingerprint the entire subnet for sunos :)
18:07.11numist:o
18:07.13filelol
18:07.25fileI don't think I have a complete list for IPs
18:13.35hardwirefile: the notify works..
18:13.37hardwirewell
18:13.38hardwireactually
18:13.43hardwirethe notify right after the re-subscribe
18:13.48hardwireon my snoms
18:13.57hardwireso.. eevry 5 minutes I get an update on the extensions in use
18:14.00hardwiresweet eh?
18:28.22filesure.
18:35.32Caehttp://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html yay!
18:53.12lurgy|workheh
18:53.14lurgy|workhmm
18:53.15lurgy|workclass time.
18:53.51darth_mallrun lurgy!
19:12.45CIA-5BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): expose fucntion to see what base is at a 3d point in the world
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19:32.22purple_cowhttp://flickr.com/photos/thesingingleaf/46654851/
19:32.25purple_cowfan-cake :)
19:32.58scanlimehehehe
19:33.03scanlimeI want one
19:39.03darth_mallhmmm
19:39.14numistI want a bill that I can redeem for gold at the Federal Reserve..  it would be so cool to do that
19:41.50Caeclass
19:43.00purple_cowyay! i can use /usr/portage again!
19:44.24scanlimedecadence!
19:45.14purple_cowheh
19:45.47scanlimeor.. wholesome package management fun for the whole family?
19:45.56purple_coweither or
19:52.17scanlimemm, dresden dolls and garlic bread
19:53.36numistgreat..  whenever I open a folder explorer crashes...
19:53.37numistwtf
19:53.57scanlimeit's a feature
19:54.07numistits a feature that is preventing me from doing work
19:54.45darth_mallthose are the best kinds of features
19:55.29scanlimeI just *love* scanning for life forms!
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20:06.33hardwireweird deadlock
20:07.41file[laptop]in asterisk? no way!!! those don't happen
20:08.53numistdell makes TVs now?
20:08.55numist...
20:09.06numistand MS writes their firmware?
20:09.11purple_cowdell doesn't make anything :P
20:09.14scanlimemy TV runs linux :)
20:09.18purple_cowdell has sold TVs for quite a while
20:09.25numistscanlime: is that so?
20:09.34numistscanlime: do you have sshd on your TV? :P
20:09.35scanlimenumist: yup. the OSD about menu has a copy of the GPL in it :)
20:10.01numist:)
20:11.33hardwirefile[laptop]: queue related
20:11.52file[laptop]app_queue and chan_agent are both easy deadlockers
20:12.11hardwirewell they are about to be relieved from duty.. sIIIRRRRR
20:12.21hardwirejust going to have to multi channel dial
20:12.25hardwiregoign to have to do that anyways
20:12.33hardwireonce I figure out why chanisavail is funk didly ucking
20:12.43file[laptop]what are you trying to do with it?
20:12.49hardwireits our operator queue
20:12.52hardwireit rings 5 phones
20:12.54hardwirethats it
20:13.24hardwirefile[laptop]: cause I want it to ring the next available operator..
20:13.29hardwirewe all have Caller Waiting
20:13.35hardwireChanIsAvail helps that happen
20:13.45file[laptop]what a setup.
20:13.50hardwireshut up
20:13.52hardwireyou think you know me
20:13.54hardwireyou don't know me
20:14.15hardwiremm
20:14.17hardwiretaco bell
20:14.19hardwireI feel better
20:14.55hardwireso I am the only person who gets things from our hardware supplier.. and a package from them showed up today..
20:14.58hardwirea Thinkpad G41
20:15.01hardwireno idea why
20:15.09numistsweet
20:15.20file[laptop]has anyone claimed it yet?
20:15.27numistI ordered that
20:15.59hardwirewell
20:16.15hardwirethe PO on it.. is 092601-VOIPSNPSRV
20:16.20hardwirean order I placed two days ago
20:16.24hardwirea new mainboard for a server
20:16.28numisthaha
20:16.49file[laptop]...interesting
20:18.03scanlimelookit all the Xen commits using an ass-ugly CIA client script...
20:18.23hardwireI got the mainboard too
20:18.24hardwireso
20:18.26hardwireconfused.
20:18.33hardwiremaybe its a gift :)
20:18.46numistscanlime: you havent yet?
20:18.49hardwirein which case I have to delete the voicemails I left saying "did you order a laptop?"
20:18.56scanlimenumist: I've been lazy about CIA...
20:19.03numisthadnt noticed >_>L
20:19.05numist-L
20:19.09scanlimehehe
20:19.20darth_mallscanlime: or you could just stab them in the mouth
20:19.30numistnot used to typing on my thinkpad keyboard.  thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it
20:20.33purple_cowhahahaha
20:20.35purple_cowhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/sets/603279/
20:20.50hardwirefile: doh.. pickup is freakign out
20:21.13purple_cowCapers, fish, and a raw egg on rye bread with... dill and/or parsley.
20:21.13purple_cow"This little piece of yummy we recommend to all that think that it's nice to whet yheir appetite before starting a good meal. But of course it can be offered as a goodbye snack when you have had a fun night and small hours are present."
20:21.18file[laptop]hardwire: good for it.
20:21.18scanlimeooh.. I love the sound my stack makes as this code runs :P
20:21.27hardwirefile[laptop]: YOU DON'T CARE DO YOU!
20:21.32hardwire:)
20:21.35file[laptop]hardwire: not when you're that descriptive :P
20:22.22hardwirelooks like I bough a Thinkpad G41 for $569.75
20:22.33hardwireI should just reorder the contents for what was supposed to be in this box
20:23.02hardwirefile[laptop]: later after I finger it out
20:23.15scanlimepurple_cow: oh my...
20:23.45file[laptop]yay Chip
20:23.49purple_cowi love how about half the photos belong to the "Don't eat that!" pool :)
20:24.21scanlimehehe
20:24.49ChipX86"VMWare's killer-robot program has now been dealt a severe setback..."
20:24.56numist:(
20:24.58scanlime:)
20:25.10scanlimeTam makes me smile
20:25.23ToyKeepereh?
20:25.35ChipX86that's a real shame
20:25.38scanlimeToyKeeper: the guy that posted that to fun-list...
20:25.40ChipX86I was looking forward to that
20:25.43scanlimeyeah
20:25.44ToyKeeperAh.
20:25.49ChipX86I did some of the initial concept design for it
20:25.52ToyKeeperTam is my roommate.  She makes me smile too.  :)
20:25.56ChipX86http://view.sf.net/libview-arrives.png
20:26.04purple_cow``It has been said that raw steak isn't appropriate for gallstone patients because it causes stark gall bladder excretion. But if you health is not a factor, choose some great meat and the enjoyment will be perfect!''
20:27.05ToyKeeperhttp://toykeeper.net/photos/people/shmoo/xmas2001_042.jpg
20:28.49hardwiredoh
20:28.52scanlimeooh
20:29.04ChipX86nice
20:29.06scanlimeit's taking a while :P
20:29.09kergothfun
20:29.27ChipX86if you connect a hundred USB devices to a computer, all the stability of Windows will be unveiled.
20:29.29numistinfinite?
20:29.38kergothi emailed in sick today, wasnt feeling well this morning.. now i'm thinking about seeing how productive i can be working from home
20:29.39numistChipX86: you mean stripped away?
20:29.53purple_cowoooog
20:29.56purple_cowhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/29969381/in/set-603279/
20:30.31kergoth..
20:31.34hardwire..
20:32.11hardwirepurple_cow: I had a nutritionist tell me I need to eat more rare/raw steaks
20:32.25hardwireI didn't
20:33.55darth_mallit's not very tasty, IMO
20:33.59hardwirewell
20:34.09hardwirethey had to cover it in raw egg of some cish like thing
20:34.16hardwirecish/fish
20:34.22hardwireand raw egg of some chicken like thing
20:34.36darth_mallmmmm... fish eggs
20:35.00hardwireThe beginning of the story of the raw steak tells that ancient sheherds put the meat between the saddle and the horse so that when the men rode their horses, the meat became tender and edible without cooking or frying. The best but also the most expensive raw steak is from scraping meat from a well hung cow's inner filet. In other cases of course meat will get chosen by the size of the wallet and the size of the party.
20:35.01hardwirethat ain't cool
20:35.08purple_cowhehe
20:35.18purple_cowclosest i've had to raw "meat" was whale sashimi
20:35.25purple_cowwhich was really tasty
20:35.40hardwiremammel meat
20:35.42hardwiremammal
20:35.48hardwiremamoo
20:35.50hardwireugh
20:36.05kergoth~spell mammel
20:36.09kergoth:P
20:36.22hardwire~spell kergoth
20:36.29kergothlol
20:36.32ChipX86keithgoth
20:36.39hardwirecargo girth
20:36.45ChipX86cowgoth
20:36.47hardwireheh
20:37.00hardwireKirghiz
20:37.01hardwirenow
20:37.04hardwirethats a cool nick
20:37.10hardwire~dict Kirghiz
20:37.16scanlimegoddamnit windows, I don't want to restart just 'cuz I added a USB hub
20:37.22ChipX86haha
20:37.25ChipX86poor scanline
20:37.29hardwirepoor indeed
20:37.35hardwirepoor poor poor
20:37.37hardwireactually
20:37.40hardwirehe probably makes more than I do now
20:37.41numistlots of sympathy coming from this corder
20:37.43numistcorner*
20:37.45scanlimeI also don't want to restart because I just added 50 hubs...
20:37.54hardwirescanlime: if it were 10.. no problem?
20:37.55kergothmm, dresden dolls makes good background music for coding
20:38.05hardwireor did it suddenly add another HCI?
20:38.08hardwireto handle it iall
20:38.32scanlimeum
20:38.38scanlimethat didn't make any sense :P
20:38.49purple_cowhehe
20:39.13hardwirescanlime: it does to me
20:39.17hardwirethats all that matters
20:39.43scanlimeI'll have to make sure to consult the HCI people here before I commit this USB code :P
20:39.45hardwirescanlime: just trying to fathom why windows would do that
20:40.00scanlime:)
20:40.01ChipX86hardwire: it's.. badly designed?
20:40.03hardwireI can only think of one time I did that.. I plugged in a PCMCIA USB HCI
20:40.07hardwireand it did that
20:41.01scanlimehardwire: no new HCs, just new devices
20:41.13scanlimeVMware's HC is part of the motherboard chipset
20:41.15hardwirequite silly
20:41.36scanlimethe amazing Intel PIIX4 (tm)
20:41.37hardwireI have never had a need for PCI-X until now
20:42.02ChipX86did you find out what PIIX4 means?
20:42.10scanlimeyes, that's why it's funny
20:42.19purple_cowhehe
20:42.30ChipX86ok, care to enlighten me?
20:42.32purple_cowvery funny
20:42.36hardwireits really weird seeing modern day mainboards with videoram slots
20:42.41scanlimePCI to IDE/ISA Xcellerator
20:42.44scanlimefor the 440BX chipset
20:43.13hardwireI bet its IPMI
20:43.15hardwirenot video ram
20:43.26hardwiretheres an intel chip thats huge right underneath it
20:46.38hardwireooooh
20:46.44hardwireits for the 6300ESB chip
20:49.05darth_mallyay! done with my UI homework
20:49.12CIA-5BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzadmin.vcproj: need the have curses #def to use curses
20:50.18darth_mallI am so very tired right now
20:52.39scanlimesigh, it's been hard finding people to review my change involving spinlocks in one of the windows drivers
20:52.40darth_mallpurple_cow: don't suppose you've heard anything from Daniel, have you?
20:52.48darth_mallheh
20:56.21purple_cowdarth_mall: nope
20:57.20darth_malldidn't think so
20:57.28darth_mallI should've said something to him in lab today... ><
20:58.22purple_cowgrph
20:58.27purple_cowhe doesn't have a phone number listed :P
20:58.43darth_mall=\
20:58.58darth_mallhuh... Kendar doesn't like feta...
20:59.16purple_cowweird
20:59.47darth_mallI would've thought she'd like that kind of food... oh well
21:03.00darth_mallyou know... I think I like purple_cow's menu mock-ups more and more everytime I look at them ^^
21:04.13purple_cow:)
21:07.24scanlimemm, good dessert today
21:07.29scanlimesome kind of layered ice cream and cake contraption
21:08.12darth_mallugh... I don't recall anything Amer said about black box testing
21:09.06ChipX86scanlime: yeah
21:09.13ChipX86tiramisu I think the guy called it
21:09.21scanlimeoh, hehe
21:09.26ChipX86I was just in there
21:09.27scanlimeI didn't know tiramisu involved ice cream...
21:09.32ChipX86dunno
21:09.34scanlimeyeah, I saw you
21:09.34ChipX86oh
21:09.41ChipX86should have said hi
21:09.48scanlimeyou looked busy :)
21:09.57ChipX86was I staring at the wall?
21:10.01scanlimeprobably :)
21:10.04ChipX86then I was just broed
21:10.06ChipX86er, bored
21:10.14ChipX86and waiting for Regis, who I gave up on
21:10.20scanlimeregis was right next to you
21:10.27ChipX86oh
21:10.40kergothhttp://dc5video.debian.net/ogg_theora/2005-07-11/05-Embedded_Debian_Demo-Wookey.ogg
21:10.41kergoth<hrw|tv> he mention OE few times too
21:10.41kergoth<koen> in a postive way
21:10.41kergoth<koen> 'debian doesn't support that, OE does'
21:10.41kergoth<koen> 'emdebian doesn't work, OE does'
21:10.41ChipX86might have been that brief moment when we entered before he started talking to someone
21:10.46kergoth<hrw|tv> 'OE is good source all misc patches to get this right'
21:10.47kergoth:)
21:11.04ChipX86this code muchly hates me
21:11.29kergoth:(
21:11.42ChipX86scanlime: libview is in :)
21:11.45scanlimeyay
21:12.17purple_cowscanlime: traditional tiramisu doesn't involve ice cream, but there's a lot of variation on the theme
21:14.26scanlimeah
21:14.53purple_cowhmm, that's something i should make sometime
21:16.34hardwirequesadillas?
21:17.04scanlimeoh, sweet.
21:17.13scanlimeI caused my linux guest's USB hub kernel thread to panic
21:26.06hardwirenot that hard
21:26.28hardwireI sneeze at the USB controllers on 80% of my machines and they panic
21:26.41scanlimeupgrade your kernel :P
21:26.50scanlimeUSB under linux is pretty good
21:26.50hardwirebad mainboards :)
21:27.03hardwireits really good on the 20% that don't have crappy USB controllers
21:27.16scanlimeheh
21:27.27scanlimeare you saying something about our USB controller? ;)
21:27.38hardwirethe 440 one!
21:27.43hardwireno
21:27.50scanlimethis isn't a real PIIX4
21:27.52hardwireI am talking about the HCI on these realyl crappy soyo mainboards
21:27.56hardwireAMD
21:28.01hardwireolder than shit
21:28.20hardwireor atleast much older than I would keep a turd on the floor around
21:28.37purple_cowi'd hope
21:28.58hardwirehmm
21:29.07hardwiredebian is being weird again
21:29.13hardwirebut for good reason
21:29.23hardwireit moved all packages listed as "kernel-image" to "linux-image"
21:29.28hardwirepre hurdanistic
21:30.12numistand it upgraded to xorg recently
21:30.22hardwireno kidding
21:37.14ChipX86success!
21:37.17ChipX86it all buildy-like!
21:37.21scanlimeyay!
21:37.25ChipX86scanlime: update bora-root and bora
21:37.35ChipX86see how lovely it all is
21:37.39ChipX86oh and expert world to build :)
21:37.46ChipX86well not world, but all of vmui
21:37.48scanlimeahm.. maybe later
21:38.19ChipX86funn
21:38.40ChipX86why must I be hated by you, almighty sucky widget?! :(
21:38.49scanlimeyou have a sucky widget now?
21:38.54ChipX86yeah
21:54.29scanlimeyay, I get to recompile the GUI every time I pull out this patch :P
21:54.49ChipX86doom doom doom
21:54.52ChipX86it's only on hosted2005 right now
21:54.57scanlimeoh
21:55.00scanlimewell, I'm on main right now
21:55.05ChipX86making it all go-happy-worky on main now
21:55.28scanlimepoor windows driver patch.. will it ever get in?
21:55.48scanlimeit's like 5 lines of code.. but in a fairly hairy driver that few people understand
21:58.17file[laptop]scanlime: do you have to be clinically insane to understand it?
21:58.24scanlimeno
21:58.30file[laptop]darn
21:59.24scanlimealthough it really needs a comment to the effect of "You don't have to be crazy to work on this driver, but it helps"
21:59.39file[laptop]hehe
22:02.08purple_cowwhee
22:02.19purple_cowtori amos' cover of '97 bonnie and clyde is so creepy
22:03.03scanlimepurple_cow: remind me to burn a mi6k chip for you tonight, and whatever else you want if anything
22:05.39purple_cowremember to burn an mi6k chip for me tonight
22:05.47scanlimeheh
22:05.48scanlimethanks
22:05.56purple_cow:)
22:06.13scanlimeor I could wait and get some samples of that pin-compatible full-speed chip they have now
22:06.17scanlimeyou could have even faster IR!
22:06.20purple_cow5v brick?
22:06.23scanlimeah, yes
22:08.26ChipX86bah! Bah I say!
22:08.36file[laptop]are you a sheep?
22:08.40ChipX86BAH!
22:09.01ChipX86bahhh rammm youuu
22:13.38ChipX86eep
22:13.42ChipX86interview thingy
22:13.47scanlimehave fun
22:19.52scanlimeeep
22:19.56scanlimeI have 22 snapshots on this VM...
22:21.06hardwirescanlime: hmm.. how are these crazy intel chips soldered onto mainboards nowadays.. totally funky low profile casing on the chips
22:21.15scanlimeyou mean BGA?
22:21.32hardwiredoes it look like thips sitting on a platter?
22:21.37scanlime?
22:21.39hardwireheh
22:21.43hardwireI guess BGA
22:21.47file[laptop]hardwire: we're already under attack for forking
22:21.49scanlime?????????!@#@!!@!@$???
22:21.54hardwirefile[laptop]: well duh
22:22.10hardwirescanlime: nm.. don't let me frustrate you
22:22.22file[laptop]hardwire: Mark called the boss of one of the contributors/my friend and proceeded to complain
22:22.30hardwiredon't piss off mark
22:22.42hardwireand the only reason he is bitching is because you guys did this pre-astricon
22:22.44CIA-5spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1734 10mck/simulator.py: simulator.py doesn't go here any more
22:23.43hardwirenow you are the talk of the conference
22:23.46hardwireor will be
22:23.52hardwireits kinda a sneaky tactic when you think about it
22:23.59hardwirewhat do they call it.. stage stealing :)
22:24.21hardwirescanlime: yes.. Ball Grid Array casing
22:24.52file[laptop]hardwire: we wanted him to get the news just before he went on stage at Astricon
22:25.19hardwirejust to un-nerve him?
22:25.38file[laptop]slightly, yes
22:25.41scanlimehardwire: they call those 'packages' and 'footprints' if you want to sound like you know what you're talking about ;)
22:25.59hardwireok
22:26.06hardwireso its soldered on with lime juice then?
22:26.08hardwire:)
22:26.13scanlimeheh
22:26.21scanlimethey're soldered just like most surface mount chips are...
22:26.28hardwirewith heat
22:26.29scanlimestick it on the board with solder paste and heat it up
22:26.31hardwire<- dumbass
22:26.39hardwireI wonder what the.. BGA footrprint looks like
22:26.47scanlimeit's just a grid of little solder balls
22:26.53scanlimehence 'ball grid array'
22:27.10hardwireweird
22:27.13hardwirea grid of balls
22:27.17hardwireso borg
22:27.46scanlimehaha, nice
22:27.52scanlimeQA's getting an ipod mini for USB testing
22:28.21hardwirehttp://developer.intel.com/design/flcomp/prodbref/298113.htm
22:29.07hardwirewell
22:29.09hardwirethat explains that
22:29.13hardwirethanks for letting me waste brain cells
22:29.17scanlimehehe
22:29.44scanlimewow, stacked-csp looks cool
22:30.55hardwireyeh
22:30.55hardwireso much better than the old design
22:30.55scanlime"Low cost and reliability where size is not critical"
22:30.56scanlimereliability, or low reliabilitY?
22:30.56hardwirehahah
22:30.59scanlimeyou'd think they would avoid such ambiguity...
22:30.59hardwirewell Easy BGA is characteristically High Reliability
22:31.13hardwireso
22:31.15hardwirethis is driving me nuts
22:31.23scanlimepurple_cow: thanks, I needed that
22:31.26numistyay quips pages
22:31.31hardwirethe company that accidently shipped me this IBM thinkpad isn't answering
22:31.34numist<PROTECTED>
22:31.41numisthardwire: you should accidentally ship it to me
22:31.48hardwireI should accidently move it to my house
22:32.09numistI like my idea better
22:32.15hardwirehah
22:32.19hardwirelet me see howm uch this product costs
22:32.21hardwireit has the code on it
22:33.00hardwirehinkPad G41 2886 - Mobile Pentium 4 532 3.06 GHz - RAM 256 MB - HD 40 GB - CD-RW / DVD - Mdm - LAN EN, Fast EN, 802.11b, 802.11g - Win XP Pro
22:33.06hardwire$988.70
22:33.13hardwire15" display
22:33.27hardwirehigh gloss display
22:33.27hardwirehmm
22:33.42hardwirethis laptop is faster than both my laptop and my desktop combined
22:33.57hardwirejust as much ram as them combined as well
22:34.10purple_cow256?
22:34.15hardwire1 gig
22:34.16purple_cowthat's pretty low :P
22:34.27purple_cownot what you just said
22:34.32hardwirehah
22:34.33hardwireweird
22:34.35hardwireI read their site wrong
22:34.43hardwire256 is pretty pathetic
22:34.47hardwirefor that ghz
22:35.22hardwiremofo
22:35.25hardwirepress 1 to leave a message
22:35.27hardwiremailbox is full
22:37.09file[laptop]I hate open source sometimes
22:37.25file[laptop]people combine their projects with their lives and turn it into politics
22:37.28hardwirethats why it hates you
22:37.40hardwirewell it means alot to people
22:37.42hardwirethey are in charge
22:37.51scanlime"We will be changing the CSGC administration password for all of the computers, so if you are a current user, please remove all personal files from any computer before the end of the week."
22:37.56scanlimeI don't understand the causal relationship there
22:38.12hardwirescanlime: just remove your files and bend over like a good cubie,
22:38.17kergothhaha
22:38.58hardwirescanlime: I am guessing the non domain admin password per computer
22:39.07hardwirefor off-line maintainence
22:39.20scanlimehardwire: stop guessing
22:39.31hardwireits the only thing that makes sense to me
22:39.40file[laptop]maybe they're reimaging them!
22:39.48hardwirethey are going to invade your computer somehow
22:39.56scanlimeGOD, UNLEASH YE THY TIDE OF STUPIDITY
22:40.06hardwirebeh
22:40.14hardwireI don't lead a stupid life off-line :)
22:40.15hardwireonly here.
22:41.45file[laptop]hardwire: ya know, technically I'm now REALLY against Digium
22:42.03hardwirefile[laptop]: because they have open source hardware?
22:42.21scanlimeI hate voip...
22:42.32file[laptop]hardwire: if you use Sangoma hardware, you're against Digium and Asterisk
22:43.01hardwirescanlime: you have every reason too.. it invades your channels.. attracts stupidity and sounds like crap..
22:43.14scanlimeit's just so boring...
22:43.19hardwireits 90% of files life
22:43.23hardwireits not boring for him
22:43.24scanlimeI know :P
22:43.46hardwireits like.. 89% on my side
22:43.50hardwireatleast for the next few months
22:43.51scanlimeI just often wish you two would head off to #voip-cluster-fuck and leave us alone
22:43.59hardwirekeeeep on wishin
22:44.03hardwirewe enjoy the persecution
22:44.28numistmasochist
22:44.37hardwirepoopoochist
22:44.44hardwirehmm
22:44.47hardwirenow I want chinese
22:45.40hardwirenumist: do you have terminal lockup issues in xorg?
22:45.42hardwirelike
22:45.45hardwirex-terminal
22:45.56hardwireoften select just doesn't work..
22:45.59numisthardwire: I only use xorg on athena for x forwarding...  its a headless machine
22:46.06hardwirehah
22:46.10numistso..  I dont wind up using x-terminal at all
22:47.16hardwirex takes up so much of my cpu
22:47.22hardwireI really want a new workstation
22:48.01hardwireand not a virtual one
22:48.07purple_cowkergoth: :)
22:50.56scanlimeoop.. this BFS would be much more finite if I remember to pop things off the stack after visiting them
22:51.43kergothhehe
22:56.55CIA-5smrt: 03darkstar62 * r117 10docs/system-architecture/ (architecture.tex figures/ figures/modules.png): Added the information about the modules, as well as a nice picture.
22:57.11darth_malloh noes!
22:58.08darth_mallawww... slimspace put in drop shadows ^^
22:58.16slimspace:)
22:58.50slimspaceyou mean the red?
22:59.09slimspaceor maybe...
22:59.11darth_mallit looks almost red on my computer
22:59.34darth_mallbut it looks a lot like that salmon that Safeway carries that's been dyed to look fresh ^^
22:59.42scanlimehehe
23:00.11purple_cowslimspace: is it possible to use .svg instead of .png?
23:00.18purple_cowpng will look crappy when it's printed
23:00.23slimspacepurple_cow: it is, if you don't want drop shadows.
23:00.33darth_mallobviously, since this is related to a computer in all the colors should be some shade of blue
23:00.38darth_malls/in//
23:01.09scanlimeyou can do shadows using gradients in svg, they're just a pain
23:01.33slimspaceyeah, I decided it would be much more worth my time to do the shadows in gimp and be done with it
23:01.47hardwirescanlime: I really shouldn't do voip anyways
23:01.56hardwireI am to much of a voyour
23:02.08hardwireerr
23:02.11scanlimeslimspace: I'd recommend making the shadows PNGs, then sticking those into the svg
23:02.12hardwirevoyeur
23:02.21slimspacescanlime: hmm...good idea
23:02.28scanlimeslimspace: you really want to keep most of the image svg so it prints non-craptastically
23:02.40scanlimea low-res shadow won't matter, since it's supposed to be blurry
23:02.57darth_malllies!
23:03.07darth_mallI demand high-definition drop-shadows in all of our images!
23:03.22scanlimepurple_cow: have you seen SDL 1.3's RenderTarget?
23:03.30alm262hehe
23:03.32purple_cowscanlime: nope
23:03.55scanlimepurple_cow: it's a sexy easy way to use pbuffers.. you allocate one at a particular size, lock it, render to it, then unlock it
23:04.04purple_cowmakes sense
23:04.06scanlimethe lock operation makes it the current draw target, the unlock operation reverses that and updates the texture
23:04.19purple_cowone of the big feature points of pbuffers is that they're really easy to wrap into objects
23:04.26scanlimeyep
23:04.48scanlimeso loopy has about a half-written python version of SDL's RenderTarget object
23:05.11scanlimehmm.. more flakiness uncovered in this
23:05.17scanlimeneed more coffee...
23:06.05alm262scanlime: where's this SDL1.3 stuff?
23:06.14alm262I haven't heard of major development on SDL for a long time
23:09.50darth_mallarg
23:09.50scanlimeSDL has tons of new stuff in CVS, they just haven't had a release in ages
23:10.05darth_mallI don't know if I'm going to be able to get my AI homework done
23:11.44darth_mallhehe
23:11.50darth_mallsquirrels playing tag on a tree outside
23:12.06darth_mallaww... one of 'em gave up
23:12.10scanlimethey're fun to watch
23:12.22scanlimeit's less fun when they make tons of noise at dawn
23:12.50darth_malloh man I love people who shout into their cell phones in plubic
23:12.54darth_mallalso in public
23:13.07darth_mall"HEY, THIS IS ELLIOT. HELLO?"
23:13.26scanlimeHONEY CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M ON THE TRAIN. I'M TALKING ON MY CELL PHONE. EVERYONE LOOK AT ME WITH DISDAIN"
23:13.32darth_mallhehe
23:14.33kergothwas that supposed to rhyme? :P
23:14.41scanlimeuh.. no
23:14.57scanlimeyes.. you need one
23:15.42kergothmm, guinness
23:16.10CIA-5smrt: 03darkstar62 * r118 10docs/system-architecture/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ok, colors are a little more sane, and we have a proper svg for the diagram.
23:20.45purple_coweek
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23:32.52darth_mallslimspace broke my system architecture doc!
23:33.00kergothhehe, http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/maps/OE.php is cute
23:33.08kergothyay google maps
23:35.25CIA-5smrt: 03darkstar62 * r119 10docs/system-architecture/figures/modules.svg: oops, not an inkscape document. fixed
23:37.50CIA-5smrt: 03darkstar62 * r120 10docs/system-architecture/figures/modules.svg: hard-coded paths = dead
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23:46.28darth_mallpurple_cow: I missed you
23:48.35darth_mallit looks like he lives on a highway...
23:50.37kergoththat dot isnt quite by my house, thats about a mile away or so, but yeah, i'm just off of 169
23:50.38kergothhehe
23:51.21darth_mallI pictured you living in a tent just beyond the guard rail on the highway ^^
23:52.28darth_mallyou were like some kind of magical highway hobo
23:52.38slimspacenm, /me didn't look far enough up
23:55.00ChipX86yay
23:55.03ChipX86I have bug #777777
23:55.08darth_mallgood job
23:55.30scanlimenice
23:55.47purple_cowyay, just 2 more "buildings" and some edges and i'm done :)
23:55.56darth_mallsweetness!
23:56.19darth_mallbeware my wrath, should I be disappointed
23:56.33scanlimewhat'cha drawing?
23:56.42darth_mallyaoi
23:56.55scanlimehehe
23:56.58darth_malloh... you meant purple_cow
23:57.22numistit should not be dying whenever I open a folder
23:57.25slimspaceyay, golem is finally done upgrading
23:57.31darth_mallbooo!
23:57.32numistoof its all assembly
23:57.46scanlimewhat did you expect?
23:57.49numistah found the problem though
23:58.06numistscanlime: I expected assembly, but x86 is always surprisingly ugly
23:58.34numistomg I have the windows source code!
23:58.50scanlimeheh.. find the symbol server? :P
23:58.56ChipX86?
23:59.13numistmemory management problem
23:59.26darth_mallmemory management is for hookers and fat people
23:59.33numistpsh
23:59.46ChipX86scanlime: cplusplus's neurons finally caught up to the "bug report" thing from yesterday and is now trying to process it
23:59.52scanlimehah
23:59.54numisthaha I cant do anything with it until I finish debugging..  d'oh

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