00:15.14 | ChipX86 | damn laptop |
00:16.47 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: what now? |
00:16.48 | kergoth | i need to go through all my cds, get them into jewel cases, and put them in my new cd case |
00:16.48 | kergoth | hmm |
00:18.19 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: same old |
00:18.27 | ChipX86 | just stops working |
00:18.34 | file[laptop] | ah |
00:20.36 | ChipX86 | uh oh, I think my securid fell into the couch |
00:21.08 | ChipX86 | nope |
00:21.15 | ChipX86 | wonder where I put it |
00:21.38 | darth_mall | scanlime: yay potatoes! |
00:27.32 | scanlime | ok, this windows problem is annoying. Time to quit while I'm ahead |
00:27.43 | ChipX86 | well.. this is no good |
00:29.01 | ChipX86 | yay |
00:29.09 | ChipX86 | it was in the couch. Just not in the areas I thought it would have been |
00:32.24 | purple_cow | hrmph |
00:32.26 | purple_cow | can't get the gentoo livecd to boot >< |
00:32.32 | darth_mall | uhoh |
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00:42.29 | nullpuppy | yay, just like Salem. |
00:44.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r116 10docs/system-architecture/architecture.tex: User Interaction section is ready for review by the rest of the group. |
00:48.41 | purple_cow | yay for distro isos on bittorrent |
00:49.36 | purple_cow | it's about damn time i could download these at my linespeed |
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00:55.31 | ChipX86 | "You're going to go to a very special level of hell, a level they reserve for child molestors, and people who talk in theaters." |
00:55.34 | ChipX86 | that quote is awesome |
00:55.41 | ChipX86 | I'm now getting all these quotes you guys keep spatting out :) |
00:56.14 | kergoth | hehe |
00:56.18 | kergoth | i love that quote |
00:57.33 | ChipX86 | I love the main character's expressions |
00:59.53 | nullpuppy | :) |
01:00.04 | nullpuppy | I love jayne in this episode ;) |
01:00.39 | darth_mall | nullpuppy: which? |
01:00.45 | darth_mall | Our Mrs. Reynolds? |
01:00.49 | nullpuppy | our mrs reynolds |
01:00.51 | nullpuppy | yeah :) |
01:01.14 | nullpuppy | "If I could make you prettier, I would!" |
01:01.23 | darth_mall | they can say, "ass", "bitch", and "whore", but they can't say "shit"? |
01:01.40 | nullpuppy | guess so, yay FCC! |
01:02.04 | darth_mall | hmm... maybe get on to makin' dinner... |
01:02.05 | ChipX86 | I like how they speak in what sounds like an asian language sometimes |
01:02.16 | nullpuppy | Chinese? :) |
01:02.23 | ChipX86 | is it chinese? ah. |
01:02.28 | nullpuppy | yup |
01:02.54 | kergoth | "Can you not do that while we're.... ever?" |
01:03.00 | kergoth | god i love this show |
01:03.08 | nullpuppy | :) |
01:03.08 | ChipX86 | it's really good |
01:03.18 | nullpuppy | yay! |
01:03.24 | kergoth | lol.. he looks better in red :) |
01:03.36 | kergoth | hehe |
01:03.57 | darth_mall | looks like kergoth's on the same ep as me |
01:04.10 | kergoth | indeed |
01:08.53 | ChipX86 | "Oh I'm going to go to the special hell." |
01:09.01 | kergoth | hehe |
01:09.19 | ChipX86 | uh oh! |
01:09.43 | scanlime | woo |
01:09.59 | scanlime | N64/snes s-video, GC component, and dreamcast s-video cables |
01:10.30 | purple_cow | :) |
01:10.38 | ChipX86 | nice |
01:11.16 | scanlime | ooh, this component cable comes in a box all labeled in japanese |
01:11.43 | scanlime | my god.. |
01:11.52 | scanlime | what is it with component video cables and huge plugs? |
01:12.27 | ChipX86 | the wife be bad |
01:12.55 | nullpuppy | very :) |
01:12.55 | scanlime | oven's hot! potato time! |
01:13.12 | file[laptop] | scanlime: what potato-based food are you having today? |
01:14.53 | ChipX86 | oh pfft, they were about to kiss |
01:15.53 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: with Saffron and Inara? :) |
01:16.10 | ChipX86 | Inara is the ex-wife? |
01:16.10 | kergoth | "For this to work, river and i will have to be dead." "I'm starting to like this plan." |
01:16.19 | scanlime | file: just making another baked potato |
01:16.33 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: Inara is the Companion .. |
01:16.40 | ChipX86 | oh, Saffron is the ex-wife? |
01:17.02 | nullpuppy | she's the one that married Mal in this episode |
01:17.13 | ChipX86 | then yes |
01:18.26 | scanlime | oooh |
01:18.43 | scanlime | component video on the gamecube was definitely worth this overpriced cable |
01:19.14 | nullpuppy | ah, Vera, I love that scene :) damn commercials |
01:22.13 | scanlime | wow that's annoying.. |
01:22.23 | ChipX86 | ? |
01:22.32 | scanlime | you have to hold down the B button while booting the cube, every time, to get a menu that lets you switch from 480I to 480p |
01:22.38 | ChipX86 | ewww |
01:22.50 | ChipX86 | that seems very weird |
01:23.09 | scanlime | yeah. nintendo really botched the HD support on the cube |
01:23.14 | kergoth | Doom looks like its gonna be awfully disappointing, even with my expectations as low as they are |
01:23.16 | kergoth | :\ |
01:23.18 | scanlime | you have to import the cables |
01:24.07 | scanlime | damn... |
01:24.15 | scanlime | I've never seen the GC look this good |
01:26.01 | scanlime | hmm |
01:26.18 | scanlime | I think monkey ball automatically detected the component cable, it gave me the dialog without having to hold down B |
01:29.29 | purple_cow | hrmph |
01:29.38 | purple_cow | this iso might be downloaded by the time wine finishes installing :P |
01:32.02 | ChipX86 | hah, the ending was funny |
01:32.20 | nullpuppy | :) |
01:33.03 | ChipX86 | "Bye now. Have good sex!" |
01:33.25 | nullpuppy | hehe |
01:34.03 | darth_mall | blah... so much work... |
01:34.08 | kergoth | i vote we make that a standard goodbye |
01:34.12 | ChipX86 | argh |
01:34.14 | ChipX86 | what is going on here |
01:34.15 | kergoth | "later boss, have good sex" |
01:34.41 | nullpuppy | haha, thats an excellent idea. |
01:42.31 | ChipX86 | "You don't 'fix' the bible." "It's broken. It doesn't make sense." |
01:42.44 | kergoth | lol |
01:42.46 | kergoth | i love that part |
01:44.45 | nullpuppy | :) |
01:45.42 | ChipX86 | gah |
01:45.59 | ChipX86 | silly thing isn't working |
01:46.03 | kergoth | i love that these zombies drop nightcrawlers |
01:46.15 | ChipX86 | :) |
01:46.17 | ChipX86 | I might play soon |
01:46.23 | ChipX86 | got to do a full build before I can test this again |
01:48.35 | ChipX86 | wowee |
01:48.40 | ChipX86 | federico is performing cool magic on the file chooser |
01:49.17 | ChipX86 | 0.818s on startup down to 0.366s |
01:50.56 | darth_mall | blaaaaaaah |
01:50.57 | darth_mall | stupid homewokr |
01:56.49 | scanlime | mmm, nice and simple |
01:58.22 | kergoth | hee |
01:58.29 | kergoth | next time you stab me int he back, have the guts to do it to my face |
01:58.50 | nullpuppy | kergoth: hehe :) |
01:59.14 | nullpuppy | damn this brilliant show :) I needed to work today... ;) |
02:00.10 | darth_mall | yay! it's the Serenity special |
02:00.16 | nullpuppy | yay :) |
02:03.31 | darth_mall | uhoh |
02:03.36 | darth_mall | sounds like drama outside |
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02:05.36 | darth_mall | haha |
02:05.39 | darth_mall | what a great way to put it |
02:05.51 | darth_mall | "the only question to the crew is: is this snow white and the 7 dwarves, or is this alien?" |
02:06.31 | darth_mall | I have a feeling this is going to be one of those movie that I wet myself at during the opening sequence ^^ |
02:06.42 | scanlime | =) |
02:07.20 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
02:08.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/platform/WinVisual.cxx: doin't do the swap PFD, some stuff dosn't like it ( lapys ) |
02:08.38 | purple_cow | ok, time to try this new CD |
02:09.44 | scanlime | Woman, you are completely off your nut! |
02:23.34 | purple_cow | good lord this is being a pain |
02:24.48 | lurgy | aha |
02:25.07 | lurgy | so you're the one telling the good lord what's going on down here |
02:26.02 | purple_cow | heh |
02:26.04 | purple_cow | yep |
02:29.41 | darth_mall | awww... Firefly marathon is over |
02:30.06 | ChipX86 | that's not the whole series though, right? |
02:31.10 | nullpuppy | not sure, I don't think so... |
02:31.20 | nullpuppy | whats the last epsisode thats shown? |
02:31.32 | ChipX86 | I htink it's Out of Gas |
02:31.56 | nullpuppy | k, theres still like.. 4 that they dow't show then |
02:32.01 | nullpuppy | *don't |
02:32.16 | darth_mall | hrm... do I want to take time to make dinner tonight? |
02:32.29 | purple_cow | it's been a long time since i had to mknod :P |
02:32.47 | nullpuppy | erm 6 episodes :) |
02:34.23 | darth_mall | hehe... tubby Jerry Oconnol |
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02:44.06 | scanlime | also... I can kill you with my brain |
02:45.09 | kergoth | hehe |
02:45.53 | file[laptop] | yay death |
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02:52.37 | za1 | bleh |
02:52.58 | lurgy | holy kow |
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02:53.03 | lurgy | you just fell on aerosmith |
02:54.22 | zak | ow |
02:55.09 | purple_cow | ok, time to find out just how much of a lunix ninja i am |
02:55.27 | lurgy | hehe |
02:55.31 | zak | purple_cow: you are an amazing lunix ninja |
02:56.20 | darth_mall | zak: you fell on aerosmith? |
02:56.24 | darth_mall | did you hurt any of them? |
02:56.59 | zak | ask lurgy |
02:57.03 | zak | only he got gone |
02:57.06 | darth_mall | well, one can always hope |
02:57.32 | zak | but then, i don't see aerosmith at all |
02:57.33 | darth_mall | too bad |
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02:58.44 | zak | grrr |
02:58.46 | zak | dead time |
02:59.01 | nullpuppy | I HAVE SERENITY TICKETS! |
02:59.09 | zak | for when? |
02:59.38 | nullpuppy | 10:20pm on friday |
02:59.41 | nullpuppy | i work until 8 |
02:59.43 | nullpuppy | so.. yeah ;) |
03:00.21 | zak__ | ooo look |
03:00.30 | zak__ | it's like i am in two places at once |
03:00.34 | zak__ | DEATH!!! |
03:00.48 | purple_cow | grr |
03:01.50 | darth_mall | zak: so when you goes to get tickets, count me in |
03:02.05 | darth_mall | I'm pretty sure I can get you cash, but I'll probably need my id to get around |
03:02.16 | zak | darth_mall: can i get an ID and monies? |
03:03.22 | purple_cow | pff, getting around is for chumps |
03:03.32 | zak | purple_cow: how is that lunix coming? |
03:03.35 | purple_cow | ohh, apparently i need to create the sr0 node and then boot off ram0 :P |
03:03.48 | purple_cow | ok, time to reboot again |
03:03.55 | gentoo | ouch! |
03:04.30 | darth_mall | zak: it doesn't matter when you need. I can give you money, but I need my id to ride the bus |
03:04.54 | darth_mall | purple_cow: what are you doing? |
03:05.36 | zak | darth_mall: it doesn't matter to me, but I can't get you student price with out it |
03:06.01 | file | how much of a discount do you get? |
03:06.21 | zak | 'bout $2 |
03:06.22 | darth_mall | I'll bet if you go and ask for a bunch of student tickets, they'll give them to you |
03:06.27 | zak | nope |
03:06.29 | zak | i have tried that |
03:06.35 | zak | they need an id for every ticket |
03:06.40 | darth_mall | half the time I ask for student tickets and they don't even ask to see an id |
03:06.52 | zak | however, you might be able to swap the night of |
03:06.55 | zak | i can try it |
03:07.01 | zak | but i doubt it will work |
03:07.26 | darth_mall | it doesn't matter anyway, because it'll probably cost me as much or more to pay for the bus/gas as I would save on the ticket |
03:09.04 | ChipX86 | scanlime: 141 files in my changeset |
03:09.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: woo... and that's taking how many years to get into main? :) |
03:09.30 | scanlime | mmmmmm this potato came out great |
03:09.33 | ChipX86 | scanlime: tonight |
03:09.43 | scanlime | 1:45 in the oven.. nice and soft |
03:09.46 | ChipX86 | it's not as big as it seems |
03:09.50 | scanlime | lots of cheese and onion |
03:10.05 | ChipX86 | #include "vmwareGTK/foo" -> #include <libview/foo> and s/vmwareGtk::/view::/g are the highlights |
03:10.30 | scanlime | ooh, fancy :P |
03:10.52 | scanlime | well.. uh... mine's basically just s/uhci*, int port/port*/ |
03:10.55 | scanlime | :P |
03:10.59 | scanlime | but it takes a lot of code to do that |
03:11.05 | purple_cow | hrmph, still no love |
03:12.44 | scanlime | now for psychology, that don't sound half dumb |
03:13.53 | zak | darth_mall: i just called, you win |
03:14.34 | scanlime | pooootaaatooo |
03:15.15 | darth_mall | zak: called who? |
03:15.48 | darth_mall | ugh... my homework hates me |
03:16.23 | hardwire | tacos hate you |
03:16.44 | file | hardwire: you have seen the dark force... now you must surrender... |
03:16.44 | scanlime | tacos hate potato... they're jealous |
03:17.14 | scanlime | goddamnit |
03:17.19 | hardwire | file: yeh.. something like that |
03:17.26 | hardwire | scanlime: its not yours to stab |
03:17.28 | file | hardwire: you do realize why we're doing it though? |
03:17.36 | hardwire | file: I have heard the fights |
03:17.42 | file | good good |
03:17.49 | hardwire | file: at the same time.. I would love to get an 8a grant to hire 10 people to just fucking do this |
03:17.59 | hardwire | I could giet a million for a years development on this |
03:18.05 | file | hardwire: look for me hacking up chan_sip and maybe a completely new SIP channel driver |
03:18.20 | hardwire | file: yeh.. |
03:18.48 | hardwire | look for me screaming as I cry about non wideband codecs |
03:19.05 | file | wideband I believe is on the list |
03:19.22 | hardwire | file: 16 and 32? |
03:19.32 | hardwire | or just plain variable with a neat re-sampler. |
03:19.42 | hardwire | I really like how speex works |
03:19.52 | hardwire | if its 8000hz only.. use only the bottom 8000hz :) |
03:20.04 | hardwire | otherwise pass the next band of 8000hz |
03:20.07 | hardwire | as well |
03:20.09 | file | dunno yet, but I have an idea as to how to actually deal with it in the core - expand the audio stuff on channels into structures so you can add properties and stuff |
03:20.26 | hardwire | I would really love to see a rewrite |
03:20.36 | hardwire | ok.. 1:15 away from pizza |
03:20.42 | file | then expand the transcoder for wideband capability as wlel |
03:20.44 | file | er well |
03:20.46 | hardwire | I have to remember to be downstairs to recieve my yummy nummys |
03:20.51 | file | lol |
03:20.59 | hardwire | I am on the 4th floor |
03:21.12 | hardwire | and the building here is not at all wanting to fund me putting an intercom doorphone up |
03:21.52 | hardwire | I just want to be loved.. thats all |
03:22.12 | hardwire | there is really something missing from sip IMHO |
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03:22.28 | hardwire | for instance.. I should be able to multicast a loooot of this crap |
03:22.29 | hardwire | say |
03:22.43 | hardwire | I start up a multicast with UID 110 and it has a billion comamnds in it |
03:22.54 | hardwire | I should get little unicast 200 ok's referencing the UID |
03:23.00 | hardwire | from each phone |
03:23.03 | file | haha |
03:23.09 | hardwire | and then be able to send unicast ones to all that don't |
03:23.15 | hardwire | its so much more effecient |
03:23.25 | hardwire | don't laugh |
03:23.27 | file | there is something I'm contemplating in regards to channels |
03:23.31 | file | and locking. |
03:23.40 | hardwire | mommy file is laughing at me |
03:23.54 | file | you could expand SIP if you wanted :P |
03:23.56 | laodamas | Yay my CMOS is fixed! |
03:24.00 | hardwire | file: I have 50 sip notifies that need to go to 30 extensions.. |
03:24.03 | hardwire | its just not effecient |
03:24.13 | hardwire | efficient. |
03:24.17 | laodamas | and all it took was the CMOS whitepaper, a couple of cut traces and some soldering :) |
03:24.17 | hardwire | however its spelled |
03:24.25 | hardwire | scanlime: dude |
03:24.36 | hardwire | and by dude.. I mean.. you |
03:25.02 | darth_mall | hmm |
03:25.24 | hardwire | have you witnessed the incredible.. non-edible.. Model 333 Theora capable camera? |
03:25.46 | hardwire | http://www.elphel.com/ |
03:25.48 | laodamas | foxconn routed the motherboard in such a way that prevented reflashing the BIOS under certain circumstances |
03:25.59 | hardwire | I am goign to be grabbing one to .. analyze it for future use .. |
03:26.19 | scanlime | ? |
03:26.22 | hardwire | http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3888835064.html |
03:26.25 | hardwire | thats a better link |
03:26.38 | scanlime | oh, I remember reading about that |
03:26.40 | scanlime | cool device |
03:26.45 | scanlime | mmm |
03:26.47 | hardwire | it can do on the fly theora encoded video (no motion-vectors) at 1280x1024x30fps |
03:26.49 | scanlime | that was a yummy potato |
03:26.52 | scanlime | hardwire: yup |
03:26.59 | hardwire | or 640x480xinsanefps |
03:27.01 | file | hardwire: they use the same Xilinx chip that's on the Digium stuff |
03:27.09 | hardwire | I talked to him.. he said he could adjust the FPS for me |
03:27.13 | hardwire | and tell me how |
03:27.15 | hardwire | which made me happy |
03:27.21 | hardwire | so I plan to get it working over sat connections |
03:27.28 | hardwire | but damnit if it isn't amazingly clear |
03:27.45 | hardwire | no feilds.. just plain happy quick digitised images.. and its cheap.. |
03:28.10 | hardwire | this little camera.. is going to be hooked up to a very large lens to watch dogfights near a military airfeild |
03:28.12 | hardwire | if it works well |
03:28.25 | hardwire | file: so the t1 processor is FPGA? |
03:28.46 | hardwire | scanlime: how did you cook the potato? |
03:28.57 | file | hardwire: yeah, they use a xilinx spartan 2 |
03:29.08 | hardwire | file: I just can't wait to get this camera in |
03:29.15 | hardwire | and hire somebody to make it sip capable :) |
03:29.18 | file | uh oh |
03:29.19 | scanlime | hardwire: baked, with sour cream, cheese, and green onion |
03:29.24 | hardwire | soudns nummy indeed |
03:29.32 | scanlime | yup |
03:29.35 | hardwire | scanlime: have you ever steamed a potato? |
03:29.44 | scanlime | no.. sounds like it would take forever |
03:29.49 | hardwire | I make lots of potato burritos.. and they take forever to boil |
03:29.50 | hardwire | actually |
03:29.59 | hardwire | steaming them takes 25% as long as boiling |
03:30.07 | hardwire | and they turn out a lot fluffier of course |
03:30.10 | scanlime | nice |
03:30.22 | hardwire | better for throwing on a griddle and making nummy burrito guts out of |
03:30.25 | hardwire | anyhoot |
03:30.34 | hardwire | I recommend buying a steamer insert for most pots |
03:30.39 | hardwire | for hot dogs and sausages anyways |
03:30.47 | hardwire | but recently its been just potatos |
03:30.50 | hardwire | cut up botatos |
03:30.54 | hardwire | potato.. |
03:30.58 | scanlime | mmmm |
03:31.02 | scanlime | I should try that |
03:31.05 | hardwire | you should |
03:31.08 | hardwire | it goes quick |
03:31.13 | hardwire | and season the fuckers before you steam em |
03:31.17 | scanlime | :) |
03:31.18 | hardwire | just to make it arominate. |
03:31.25 | scanlime | hmm.. potato fucker... |
03:31.35 | hardwire | I made a kick ass Pesto sauce the other day |
03:31.37 | hardwire | WITH MY ULU |
03:31.39 | hardwire | I was all happy |
03:31.43 | scanlime | ULU? |
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03:31.55 | hardwire | nullpuppy: fruit fucker? |
03:31.59 | hardwire | scanlime: do you make it |
03:32.02 | david_ | take that, gentoo! |
03:32.06 | hardwire | cause I would dig knowing your method if so |
03:32.06 | scanlime | hardwire: no, but I want to try |
03:32.08 | nullpuppy | hardwire: yeah, from penny arcade... |
03:32.08 | hardwire | ah |
03:32.13 | hardwire | its really really easy |
03:32.18 | scanlime | looks it |
03:32.21 | hardwire | you would be surprised if you aren't already |
03:32.30 | hardwire | but the ulu is the moon shaped blade eskimo use |
03:32.35 | scanlime | blend up some basil, olive oil, and a coule odds and ends I suspect... |
03:32.39 | scanlime | ah, cool |
03:32.40 | hardwire | I bought all the herbs that go into pesto |
03:32.52 | hardwire | and ulu'd them since its really easy to dice them like that |
03:32.56 | hardwire | and make a paste if you want to |
03:33.01 | hardwire | then yeh.. a little olive oil |
03:33.07 | hardwire | but I added garlic alfredo to the mix |
03:33.12 | hardwire | as the cream substitute |
03:33.18 | hardwire | and mixed it all up |
03:33.20 | scanlime | nice |
03:33.25 | hardwire | then added fettuchini |
03:33.26 | hardwire | and oh |
03:33.32 | hardwire | a shitload of shredded parmesian |
03:33.36 | hardwire | thats the good part |
03:33.49 | hardwire | and mixed it all around in my big old sauce pan |
03:33.54 | hardwire | oh |
03:33.55 | hardwire | the best part |
03:34.01 | scanlime | :) |
03:34.07 | hardwire | is these crazy roasted peppers in olive oil |
03:34.14 | hardwire | that you add in once you mix all the ingredients |
03:34.19 | scanlime | what kind of pepper? |
03:34.36 | hardwire | do you like kim chi? |
03:35.00 | scanlime | I don't think "like" is quite the right word... |
03:35.04 | hardwire | love? |
03:35.05 | scanlime | I can tolerate it in small amounts |
03:35.07 | scanlime | :P |
03:35.08 | hardwire | oh |
03:35.10 | hardwire | well |
03:35.17 | hardwire | well hold on |
03:35.58 | hardwire | I can't find it |
03:36.07 | hardwire | canned roasted red pepper in olive oil |
03:36.20 | hardwire | next to the oils and ketchup in most stores |
03:36.21 | hardwire | either way |
03:36.23 | hardwire | its the shizzy |
03:36.39 | hardwire | throw those little happy peppers in and viola you are the cook of the week |
03:36.43 | hardwire | ok.. done ranting about food |
03:36.46 | hardwire | this is why I have a gut now |
03:37.06 | scanlime | rofl.. vinyl snake covers |
03:37.18 | scanlime | hardwire: :) |
03:38.06 | hardwire | thats so mean |
03:38.11 | hardwire | Where is mommy map |
03:38.20 | nullpuppy | hehe :) |
03:38.34 | nullpuppy | "Do you have hos in multiple area codes?" |
03:39.17 | hardwire | heh |
03:39.19 | scanlime | :) |
03:39.25 | hardwire | they totally composited the snake cover thing |
03:39.32 | hardwire | oh nm |
03:39.41 | nullpuppy | hmm? |
03:39.43 | hardwire | thats glue |
03:39.45 | hardwire | not snake |
03:39.46 | nullpuppy | yeah |
03:39.52 | hardwire | I mixed that up with a cable hider |
03:40.00 | scanlime | "Protects snakes from rain, leaves, and bugs" |
03:40.01 | hardwire | but I remembered seeing this garage sealer thing too.. |
03:40.14 | hardwire | fucking snake |
03:40.44 | hardwire | file: so you are the pbxfreeware -> openPBX guy right now? |
03:41.03 | file | ...yes? |
03:41.08 | hardwire | well .. where is the other apps :) |
03:41.14 | david_ | hmm |
03:41.18 | file | it's not even supposed to be out yet :) |
03:41.19 | david_ | unleashed is a very interesting film so far |
03:41.21 | hardwire | I need app_valetparking |
03:41.28 | file | but everything will be brought in soon |
03:41.39 | file | I need to push some directed pickup updates/mods into SVN too... |
03:41.43 | hardwire | you know.. I don't even know what valetparking offers |
03:41.55 | file | it gives you greater control over parking |
03:41.58 | hardwire | ok |
03:42.05 | hardwire | you need to do PickupChan |
03:42.08 | file | so you know how with normal parking you transfer to 700, and it gives it a number? |
03:42.08 | hardwire | Pickup |
03:42.11 | hardwire | and PickupGroup |
03:42.16 | hardwire | as well as PickupQueue :) |
03:42.18 | file | hehe |
03:42.29 | hardwire | until today |
03:42.39 | hardwire | we didn't have "Pickup" working for our inbound queues |
03:42.42 | hardwire | well |
03:42.50 | zak | ok, so i need tickets for me, kendra, nik, rich, micah, david, evan, dan, christy.. |
03:42.52 | hardwire | I converted from 1.0.9.. lost it in 1.2.0 and now CVS has pickup |
03:42.54 | zak | anyone else? |
03:42.55 | hardwire | so now its back and working |
03:42.56 | hardwire | but bleh.. |
03:43.09 | file | yes, my Pickup - and now you owe me a beer |
03:43.17 | hardwire | its like 50 lines |
03:43.21 | hardwire | you get a shot |
03:43.34 | file | hey - I had to be creative! |
03:43.37 | hardwire | heh |
03:44.27 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
03:44.35 | file | how does it know the vendor? |
03:44.51 | hardwire | i: 3c26700d3a98-y8gyxw01lg0x@snom360 |
03:44.54 | file | the only thing that can be known about the phone in regards to vendor is the user agent |
03:44.55 | hardwire | from a sip header |
03:45.01 | file | yeah but that's not a standard |
03:45.04 | hardwire | so user agent |
03:45.06 | hardwire | :) |
03:45.06 | hardwire | well |
03:45.14 | file | user agent is kept in memory. |
03:45.15 | scanlime | zak: Mike Wong might be interested in coming, he's going to talk to you tomorrow |
03:45.18 | hardwire | file: where? |
03:45.22 | file | do a sip show peer |
03:45.29 | zak | kk |
03:45.41 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
03:45.42 | hardwire | sweet |
03:45.52 | hardwire | hah |
03:45.56 | hardwire | I should show a peer thats online |
03:45.56 | scanlime | "That's the whore house? How come it looks like a frozen dinner pack?" |
03:46.05 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
03:46.07 | hardwire | cool |
03:46.10 | hardwire | well that works for me |
03:46.14 | file | <PROTECTED> |
03:46.14 | hardwire | now I can write my app |
03:46.28 | zak | scanlime: so longs as he gets me by 2 |
03:46.29 | hardwire | there seem to be a few apps that like knowing this information :) |
03:46.44 | file | you have to remember chan_sip stuff isn't accessible by default outside of chan_sip |
03:46.50 | hardwire | man I want my pizza |
03:47.05 | hardwire | file: where you going with that? |
03:47.16 | hardwire | you mean remote lookups? |
03:47.16 | scanlime | zak: he's on AIM now.. I can have him bug you earlier |
03:47.21 | file | everything is contained within the module |
03:47.30 | hardwire | ah |
03:47.32 | zak | what is his IM? |
03:47.32 | hardwire | yes |
03:47.40 | hardwire | file: so app_something.c cannot get that info |
03:47.45 | file | correct |
03:47.46 | hardwire | even if it somehow has a way to queury the pbx |
03:47.54 | hardwire | with a sip show peer command |
03:48.07 | file | you could export a function from chan_sip |
03:48.08 | hardwire | maybe I should write this as a manager/api based app first |
03:48.20 | hardwire | file: SipGetUserAgent() |
03:49.56 | david_ | oh no! there's no lynx on zero! |
03:50.26 | scanlime | oh no! |
03:50.29 | scanlime | there's probably elinks |
03:50.32 | scanlime | and even maybe links |
03:50.49 | david_ | ah, that's easier than installing it |
03:53.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9015 10loopy/ (loopy.c soya-icon.py): Add GLX display/drawable/context tracking. There is no Python interface to this and probably won't ever be (aside from maybe as a CObject) but it will be necessary to implement a RenderTarget object a la SDL 1.3 |
03:53.25 | zak | david_: i don't suppose you are anywhere near cory are you? |
03:53.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9016 10loopy/soya-icon.py: Whoops, accidentally committed some crufty blur experiments |
03:54.09 | david_ | zak: maybe? |
03:54.15 | ChipX86 | oohh |
03:54.19 | david_ | he's not over at my apartment if that's what you mean |
03:54.24 | zak | lol |
03:54.24 | ChipX86 | 73,000 more points on amtrak and I get a free cruise! |
03:54.24 | zak | ok |
03:54.31 | file | ChipX86: free is good |
03:54.31 | ChipX86 | I'm at 2,000. I'm getting there. |
03:54.43 | nullpuppy | hehe |
03:54.47 | scanlime | ChipX86: I don't think a cruise train would be all that safe... |
03:55.11 | scanlime | oh yea... I was about to forget my other idea for loopy |
03:55.20 | ChipX86 | wtf |
03:55.30 | ChipX86 | the limit per year you can spend is 25,000 points |
03:55.33 | ChipX86 | but the cruise is 75,000 |
03:56.36 | scanlime | it has to be a really long cruise? |
03:57.13 | darth_mall | hah |
03:57.16 | darth_mall | that's great |
03:57.17 | ChipX86 | I guess you just pay it off over 3 years |
03:57.20 | ChipX86 | with.. points.. |
03:57.24 | david_ | ok, time to see how badly i screwed this up |
03:57.24 | darth_mall | maybe no one was supposed to notice... |
03:58.58 | hardwire | file: alright.. I am calling it SipGetPeerData(peer, peerdata) |
03:59.11 | hardwire | with an wrapper for SipGetUserData |
03:59.15 | hardwire | an/a |
04:00.38 | darth_mall | yay for more tests passing |
04:06.02 | hardwire | bleh |
04:06.03 | hardwire | moo |
04:06.05 | hardwire | bleh |
04:06.10 | hardwire | I want my pizza damnit |
04:07.06 | scanlime | <kaylee> Did the captain seem a little funny at breakfast this morning? <wash> Oh Kaylee, we all know I'm the funny one. |
04:07.14 | kergoth | hehe |
04:07.17 | nullpuppy | hehe |
04:08.28 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/mediawiki/index.php/Code/Lua/Deepcopy .. whee, non-recursing deepcopy() method for lua objects |
04:10.45 | david_ | yep, screwed up reasonably bad |
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04:22.34 | darth_mall | wish I knew what was wrong with this goal state calculation |
04:23.08 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
04:23.21 | ChipX86 | VMware Workstation 5.0 is on gnomefiles |
04:23.26 | david_ | wowie |
04:23.27 | ChipX86 | 15th most popular |
04:23.29 | david_ | unleashed is awesome :) |
04:23.46 | ChipX86 | http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=945 |
04:23.46 | nullpuppy | :) |
04:23.47 | ChipX86 | everyone vote! |
04:24.17 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: just for you, I will! |
04:25.12 | hardwire | omfg |
04:25.13 | hardwire | pizza |
04:25.16 | hardwire | its so melty |
04:25.18 | hardwire | and wonderfull |
04:25.25 | kergoth | yep |
04:25.33 | hardwire | I was so excited I went tot he basement in the elevator when I got it |
04:25.37 | hardwire | I work ont he 4th floor |
04:25.42 | hardwire | what .. was I thinking? |
04:25.50 | ChipX86 | ooh and click the download link. You don't have to download it |
04:26.15 | hardwire | kergoth: how you doooiiin |
04:26.29 | hardwire | file: SipGetPeerData is almost done :) |
04:26.38 | file[laptop] | hardwire: uh oh |
04:26.54 | hardwire | you bet your sweet uh oh ass |
04:26.57 | hardwire | so |
04:27.04 | hardwire | I need to learn more about this however |
04:27.11 | hardwire | you register an application |
04:27.15 | hardwire | and utoher applications can use it |
04:27.29 | hardwire | otherwise.. you can't just call sip_get_data_of_doom() from chan_sip.c |
04:27.33 | hardwire | err |
04:27.39 | hardwire | to chan_sip.c .. from app_fuckmenot.c |
04:27.47 | file[laptop] | that's why we have resources |
04:27.52 | hardwire | ok |
04:27.54 | hardwire | I added a resource |
04:28.25 | hardwire | voip001*CLI> show application SIPGetPeerData |
04:28.25 | hardwire | voip001*CLI> |
04:28.25 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
04:28.25 | hardwire | [Synopsis] |
04:28.26 | hardwire | Get Peer data (Accountcode, UserAgent, Codecs, ...) about a specific peer |
04:29.15 | hardwire | oh jesus |
04:29.21 | hardwire | I should save some pizza for mi amore |
04:29.26 | hardwire | but I just don't want to |
04:36.26 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9017 10loopy/blank-slate/ (. Makefile blank-slate.c): Add a little standalone SDL app that can be used as a target app for developing Loopy overlays |
04:37.38 | scanlime | And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating stake! |
04:37.41 | scanlime | er, steak |
04:37.56 | ChipX86 | I wish that were true |
04:38.03 | scanlime | I think I have a problem with my brain being missing |
04:41.55 | lurgy | ooh ooh |
04:42.01 | lurgy | wallace and gromit a week from friday |
04:42.02 | lurgy | :D |
04:43.19 | hardwire | I hate C |
04:43.23 | hardwire | only because I never use it |
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04:43.39 | zak | hehehe |
04:43.42 | zak | http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/591.asp |
04:43.44 | hardwire | like |
04:43.46 | hardwire | grr |
04:44.56 | hardwire | hi file |
04:45.08 | file[laptop] | greetings |
04:45.09 | purple_cow | zak: there was a similar story a few months ago about a couple swans |
04:45.24 | hardwire | I have to make a fake file descriptor |
04:45.26 | hardwire | heh |
04:46.00 | hardwire | for instance |
04:46.04 | file[laptop] | I'm not gonna ask what you're doing. |
04:46.07 | hardwire | sip_show_peer() uses fd |
04:46.08 | purple_cow | apparently there's some lake in boston that has a pair of mated swans, and someone finally looked and they were both female |
04:46.11 | hardwire | for asc_cli(fd) |
04:46.17 | hardwire | err. ast_cli(fd,...) |
04:46.22 | file[laptop] | indeed, it outputs to it |
04:46.29 | hardwire | can I make fd a variable? |
04:46.36 | lurgy | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/ |
04:46.41 | hardwire | from the function calling _sip_show_peer(...) |
04:46.45 | file[laptop] | no, no you can't |
04:46.50 | hardwire | well why the heck not? |
04:47.06 | file[laptop] | it doesn't work like that. |
04:47.10 | hardwire | fine |
04:47.16 | hardwire | then I will just have to copy the guts of this function |
04:51.57 | zak | lurgy: well, if you don't want a ticket... ^_^ |
04:53.41 | lurgy | heh |
04:54.02 | lurgy | why? |
04:55.39 | hardwire | if char *request = NULL; |
04:55.43 | hardwire | ... if(!request || request == "name") |
04:55.59 | hardwire | will that if segfault me if request is null? |
04:56.12 | purple_cow | nope |
04:56.28 | hardwire | it will just be false and all is good? |
04:56.30 | scanlime | uh |
04:56.38 | scanlime | don't compare strings like that unless you're overloading == |
04:56.44 | scanlime | that compares the pointers |
04:56.51 | hardwire | strcmp()? |
04:56.59 | scanlime | it will only pass if request happens to point to the same copy of "name" that the compiler is using on the other side of the equals |
04:57.00 | scanlime | yes |
04:57.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: it works if request points to the string in .data ;-) |
04:57.22 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's not guaranteed to across different object files |
04:57.40 | purple_cow | scanlime: uhhuh. just saying that there's a possibility |
04:57.43 | scanlime | nod |
04:58.59 | purple_cow | of course, unless that was his intent, it's wrong |
04:59.32 | hardwire | scanlime: sooo.. I have char *peerdata = Null;.. how do I initialize that a a string for the most part and start appending data to it :) |
04:59.41 | hardwire | well |
04:59.43 | hardwire | = "" |
05:00.14 | darth_mall | moo |
05:00.23 | purple_cow | oom |
05:00.53 | hardwire | strcat. |
05:00.54 | hardwire | doh |
05:01.00 | scanlime | hardwire: maybe you want a different language :) |
05:01.06 | hardwire | no choice in the matter :) |
05:01.10 | hardwire | I really suck at C don't I |
05:01.13 | scanlime | hardwire: you need memory to put the string into... |
05:01.15 | hardwire | I really suck at most things :) |
05:01.38 | darth_mall | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
05:01.45 | hardwire | strcat will malloc for me right? |
05:01.46 | darth_mall | I think my AI homework works! |
05:02.18 | purple_cow | wow. i think i might get this drive swapped out tonight |
05:02.19 | purple_cow | hardwire: no |
05:03.15 | file[laptop] | strdup will... but probably not what you want |
05:03.49 | hardwire | file[laptop]: not entirely |
05:04.55 | scanlime | hardwire: it is very dangerous to process strings in C if you don't know what you're doing- please familiarize yourself on how arrays and pointers in C work and read about the security concerns before writing anything that touches the internet |
05:05.21 | hardwire | I know the disclaimer scanlime |
05:05.27 | scanlime | mmmmmkay... |
05:05.30 | hardwire | not a total doof |
05:05.34 | purple_cow | pff |
05:05.35 | hardwire | I just don't remember the functions |
05:05.37 | darth_mall | well... maybe it's not |
05:05.39 | purple_cow | buffer overflows make the world go round |
05:05.44 | kergoth | hehe |
05:05.46 | hardwire | its been years since I touched C |
05:06.07 | hardwire | but I am security enough minded about buf overflow |
05:06.20 | hardwire | the problem is scanlime .. I can see tons of bad uses of strcat all over this code |
05:06.22 | hardwire | its pretty bad |
05:06.50 | file[laptop] | what are you looking at, chan_sip? |
05:06.55 | scanlime | hardwire: if you think you can strcat onto a "", something's wrong ;) |
05:06.59 | hardwire | app.c in channels |
05:07.16 | hardwire | scanlime: don't prick on me :) |
05:07.27 | hardwire | I atleast asked if it worked w/ malloc |
05:07.43 | file[laptop] | anyway - goodnight |
05:07.44 | hardwire | and I am not using it until I find a better way .. or the standard way of doing this |
05:07.49 | hardwire | file[laptop]: night |
05:08.13 | hardwire | file[laptop]: just look for strcat in the source for.. asterisk |
05:08.16 | hardwire | its kinda freaky |
05:08.21 | scanlime | hardwire: the tricky part about string processing in C is that you have to know how much memory you need before you know how much memory you need |
05:08.32 | hardwire | but you can realloc and copy |
05:08.35 | hardwire | its just slow |
05:08.37 | hardwire | but.. safe. |
05:08.45 | scanlime | hardwire: so you either allocate a static buffer and truncate stuff if that runs out, or you do a separate pass beforehand to calculate the size, or you grow the buffer... |
05:09.02 | scanlime | no need to copy if you realloc |
05:09.04 | purple_cow | or you make your life easy and add a glib dependency |
05:09.20 | hardwire | hah |
05:09.33 | scanlime | or you make your life a living hell and write 10000 lines of C to do what 5 lines of perl could do |
05:09.44 | purple_cow | that too |
05:14.20 | hardwire | snprintf(peerdata, sizeof(peerdata), "%s", peerdata); |
05:14.20 | hardwire | heh |
05:14.24 | hardwire | is that at all valid? |
05:14.39 | ChipX86 | no |
05:14.40 | hardwire | I hate trying to remember how things work w/ C :) |
05:14.46 | scanlime | except for the part where your source and destination are the same and it accomplishes nothing... |
05:14.48 | ChipX86 | you can't copy peerdata into itself |
05:14.48 | kergoth | sizeof() isnt going to return the length of the string, but the size of the pointer |
05:14.54 | kergoth | and that too |
05:14.57 | hardwire | oh yeh |
05:14.59 | hardwire | well |
05:14.59 | scanlime | kergoth: that's what you want for snprintf though |
05:14.59 | hardwire | crap |
05:15.06 | scanlime | kergoth: assuming it's an array |
05:15.09 | ChipX86 | sizeof() will only work if it's a buffer, like char foo[256]; |
05:15.16 | hardwire | its a buffer |
05:15.25 | ChipX86 | and if you're just going to be copying a string (as shown by "%s"), just use strdup |
05:15.39 | ChipX86 | that is, if you really do need a duplicate of that string |
05:15.52 | hardwire | actually |
05:16.03 | hardwire | snprintf(peerdata, sizeof(peerdata), "%s %s", peerdata, otherdata); |
05:16.07 | hardwire | is what I wanted to accomplish |
05:16.10 | ChipX86 | you can't use peerdata |
05:16.16 | hardwire | I know that |
05:16.20 | hardwire | just .. referencing :) |
05:16.24 | ChipX86 | bad reference :P |
05:16.34 | hardwire | it worked for me in NAM! |
05:16.47 | ChipX86 | no it didn't |
05:16.58 | hardwire | can I strcat a buffer to a sprintf()? |
05:17.03 | scanlime | you were too drunk in nam to remember it blowing up in your face |
05:17.07 | ChipX86 | can you what? |
05:17.52 | hardwire | ah |
05:17.52 | hardwire | nm |
05:18.12 | hardwire | I could have sworn there was a "char ?printf()" function |
05:18.22 | hardwire | that just returned a char buffer |
05:18.23 | scanlime | ? |
05:18.33 | scanlime | there's a g_strdup_printf() in glib |
05:18.33 | ChipX86 | g_strdup_printf in glib |
05:18.38 | hardwire | heh |
05:20.29 | hardwire | damn |
05:24.30 | darth_mall | gaaaaaaa |
05:24.32 | darth_mall | wtf |
05:26.33 | hardwire | man |
05:26.37 | hardwire | I can't fucking code |
05:26.40 | hardwire | this is just pathetic |
05:35.32 | kergoth | once again i'm getting motivated to code for fun again, and once again i'm losing my motivation to code at work. |
05:35.41 | kergoth | i either need a new hobby or a new job |
05:35.42 | kergoth | heh |
05:35.45 | kergoth | s/job/career/ |
05:37.24 | hardwire | you could just suck people off all day |
05:37.26 | hardwire | and code at night |
05:37.28 | hardwire | pay the bills |
05:37.50 | darth_mall | hahahaha |
05:38.01 | darth_mall | that's why I like it when hardwire's around =D |
05:38.16 | scanlime | :) |
05:38.30 | kergoth | umm... no |
05:38.31 | kergoth | hehe |
05:39.05 | kergoth | i have a bit of a dillemma. i'd like to keep coding as a hobby, but i really, really like the money it brings in as a career |
05:39.06 | kergoth | :\ |
05:39.09 | kergoth | heh |
05:39.13 | kergoth | bleh |
05:39.32 | zak | g'night all |
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05:42.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9018 10loopy/loopy.c: Stub out and document a new RenderTarget object, providing an easy API for pbuffers based on what SDL is going to include in 1.3 |
05:50.21 | purple_cow | hmm |
05:50.28 | purple_cow | maybe i shouldn't have done this over wireless... |
05:52.09 | darth_mall | oh! |
05:52.12 | darth_mall | I think I know why! |
05:53.25 | purple_cow | at least it's 11g :P |
05:54.36 | purple_cow | grumble |
05:54.49 | purple_cow | for some reason i get the feeling daniel doesn't check his CU email more than once a week >< |
05:58.08 | darth_mall | wow... look at it go... |
05:58.16 | darth_mall | purple_cow: =\ |
06:00.23 | hardwire | ok |
06:00.26 | hardwire | being forced to go home now |
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06:23.38 | ChipX86 | damn laptop |
06:23.47 | *** part/#tacobeam luqui (n=luqui@c-67-165-197-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
06:24.22 | hardwire | i'm baaaack |
06:25.53 | ChipX86 | I can't help but wonder what triggers this exactly |
06:26.28 | ChipX86 | though I noticed the battery no longer indicates that it's recharging. Ever. |
06:26.38 | purple_cow | fun |
06:26.40 | ChipX86 | it hangs around 95%, and then will eventually jump down to 0% |
06:27.01 | ChipX86 | but then I unplug the power cable, unplug the battery, plug the battery back in, then the power cable, boot up, and it's back at the 95% or so |
06:32.40 | ChipX86 | wow, ok, so scotch is not something I'm accustomed to |
06:33.06 | scanlime | heheh |
06:33.43 | scanlime | There's nothing wrong with that food, the salt level was 10% less than a lethal dose! |
06:33.48 | ChipX86 | :)) |
06:34.22 | purple_cow | oh no! i shouldn't have had seconds! |
06:35.40 | hardwire | if(strcasecmp(request,"name")) |
06:35.48 | hardwire | request.. does.. equal name |
06:35.59 | ChipX86 | request does not equal name |
06:36.05 | hardwire | why not! |
06:36.11 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
06:36.17 | hardwire | eh? |
06:36.17 | ChipX86 | -1, which means request is < "name" |
06:36.18 | purple_cow | str*cmp returns 0 if the strings are equal |
06:36.20 | ChipX86 | 0, meaning equal |
06:36.23 | ChipX86 | 1, meaning greater than |
06:36.23 | hardwire | hah |
06:36.27 | scanlime | and zero, meaning equal! |
06:36.36 | purple_cow | and 1, meaning greater than! |
06:36.42 | scanlime | bam! |
06:36.51 | purple_cow | hehe |
06:37.11 | hardwire | if(strcasecmp(request,"name") == 0) |
06:37.15 | hardwire | that work? |
06:37.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
06:37.29 | ChipX86 | whitespace is a good thing |
06:37.50 | hardwire | rawr? |
06:37.53 | hardwire | oh |
06:38.01 | ChipX86 | if isn't a function ;) |
06:38.19 | ChipX86 | of course, that's all a matter of opinion |
06:38.53 | purple_cow | whitespace just makes svn checkouts take longer |
06:39.00 | scanlime | hehe |
06:39.01 | ChipX86 | yeah, that's true |
06:39.09 | ChipX86 | the space character takes more bytes than most characters |
06:39.16 | scanlime | also takes longer to compile |
06:39.19 | ChipX86 | yeah |
06:39.38 | hardwire | ok |
06:39.39 | hardwire | all is well |
06:40.01 | scanlime | it's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus |
06:42.51 | hardwire | mo |
06:42.51 | hardwire | fo |
06:42.58 | hardwire | my dvd dl burner is wiggin |
06:43.18 | hardwire | but its weird seeing dvd dl where the first pass takes up half the dvd.. the second takes up a quarter.. |
06:43.28 | hardwire | odd seeing two diffferent write depths |
06:45.06 | purple_cow | wow, zed's speaking great english |
06:45.08 | purple_cow | <zed_> Khisanth, you're using utility tabs with 2.5.x? eeek! i smash can code on the ground and it broke into 1000 peice, im yet to put it back together |
06:45.45 | ChipX86 | smash can code? |
06:45.54 | purple_cow | dunno |
06:45.56 | ChipX86 | Zed smash can code! ARR!! |
06:46.08 | purple_cow | he's australian, so english is his native language :P |
06:46.30 | ChipX86 | is he learning from raster? |
06:46.36 | purple_cow | might be |
06:46.54 | scanlime | how useful.. I can create stereo pbuffers |
06:46.57 | purple_cow | though raster tends to write mro lkies htis |
06:58.43 | ChipX86 | headache needs to go away |
07:00.35 | purple_cow | :( |
07:02.15 | darth_mall | yay! there's a Neil Gaiman movie coming out this week |
07:03.19 | scanlime | of only he had joined a mainstream religion, like oprahism or voodoo |
07:12.35 | hardwire | http://voip001.corp.tdxnet.com/asterisk-sipgetpeerdata.patch |
07:12.36 | hardwire | there |
07:12.38 | hardwire | my little code |
07:12.47 | hardwire | cut and paaaaste |
07:12.59 | hardwire | I hope all those strcmp's aren't uh.. the worst thing you could ever do |
07:14.35 | hardwire | I should probably lowercase all the chars then use == after some sanity checking |
07:14.47 | scanlime | you can't use == on strings |
07:15.07 | scanlime | even if the strings are exactly identical, the pointers will only be equal if they're occupying the same memory |
07:15.13 | ChipX86 | +static char *descrip_sipgetpeerdata = "" |
07:15.13 | ChipX86 | +" SIPGetPeerData(peer|variable)\n" |
07:15.16 | ChipX86 | you don't need the = "" |
07:15.18 | ChipX86 | just = |
07:15.37 | ChipX86 | strictly speaking, those should all be const char *, unless you plan to modify them |
07:16.36 | ChipX86 | also, you're doing wayyy too many comparisons |
07:16.38 | ChipX86 | those should be else if |
07:16.48 | ChipX86 | request is never going to be two strings at once |
07:17.49 | ChipX86 | you should be using strncat |
07:18.14 | ChipX86 | I take that back. strncpy. I don't see any data going into peerdata before those if statements |
07:18.30 | scanlime | all those strcpy()s worst-case are still going to be doing a lot of work |
07:18.47 | scanlime | if you care about performance there at all, you'll want to use some kind of hash table or tree to search for matches |
07:18.51 | ChipX86 | nod |
07:19.40 | scanlime | if you don't care about performance, the neverending forest of strcmp() approach is sadly common :P |
07:19.48 | ChipX86 | actually |
07:20.01 | ChipX86 | all peerdata is ever used for is passing to another function |
07:20.03 | ChipX86 | just use a const char * there |
07:20.07 | ChipX86 | no strcats/strcpys needed |
07:20.35 | hardwire | scanlime: ok |
07:21.02 | hardwire | ChipX86: the '=' is part of the template I used. |
07:21.16 | ChipX86 | ok, well, the = is needed, but the "" after it is not |
07:21.21 | hardwire | ok |
07:21.25 | ChipX86 | C is smart enough to see that the string on the next line belongs to that variable |
07:21.50 | hardwire | strncat? |
07:21.55 | ChipX86 | no |
07:21.57 | ChipX86 | don't even do that |
07:22.02 | ChipX86 | you're copying data for no reason at all |
07:22.08 | ChipX86 | peerdata should be: const char *peerdata; |
07:22.16 | ChipX86 | and you should just assign peerdata to the value instead of copying a string |
07:22.28 | ChipX86 | all you're ever doing is passing the string to another function anyway |
07:22.39 | hardwire | I wanted to require it to be a string |
07:22.41 | ChipX86 | this way, you save yourself some memory, a string allocation and copy, and you simplify the code |
07:22.44 | ChipX86 | it's going to be a string |
07:22.45 | hardwire | some of those variables are not strings |
07:22.49 | ChipX86 | you just shouldn't be duplicating the string |
07:22.51 | ChipX86 | hrm |
07:23.04 | hardwire | atleast the ones I didn't include yet aren't |
07:23.06 | ChipX86 | well, in that case, make a temp buffer, write to that, and assign the string |
07:23.12 | hardwire | hmm |
07:23.13 | ChipX86 | it'll still optimize for most of the cases |
07:23.26 | ChipX86 | the temp buffer can't be in the if statement though |
07:23.28 | ChipX86 | and make those ifs else ifs |
07:23.38 | hardwire | why is that? |
07:23.42 | ChipX86 | which? |
07:23.46 | hardwire | else ifs |
07:23.58 | ChipX86 | because right now, if you have 100 ifs, and one succeeds, you still have 100 ifs with 100 strcasecmps |
07:24.06 | ChipX86 | there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to do that |
07:24.10 | ChipX86 | request is only ever going to be one string |
07:24.32 | scanlime | I wonder if C lets you do assignments inside of initializers... |
07:24.32 | hardwire | I see what you are saying |
07:24.37 | hardwire | anything thats a string.. pass it through |
07:24.45 | hardwire | otherwise make a temp buffer with snprintf |
07:24.52 | hardwire | or lay it out |
07:24.57 | ChipX86 | yes. But the very first thing you should be doing is fixing the ifs |
07:25.04 | hardwire | oh yeh? |
07:25.07 | hardwire | ok |
07:25.09 | ChipX86 | nobody will ever accept a patch that has the ifs like that |
07:25.10 | hardwire | actually |
07:25.12 | hardwire | I disagree |
07:25.19 | hardwire | first .. and foremost.. I need to feed the dog |
07:25.21 | hardwire | and then go to bed |
07:25.35 | purple_cow | yay, finished syncing /home and /usr |
07:25.46 | purple_cow | time to swap hard disks and sync back :P |
07:26.40 | purple_cow | hah |
07:27.06 | ChipX86 | it's a good thing my neighbors decided to throw a big loud party |
07:27.13 | ChipX86 | it's been a full day since they did that last |
07:28.14 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9019 10loopy/loopy.c: Yay, a surprisingly compact chunk of code to generate GLX attribute lists from a python keyword dict, using the current OpenGL context for defaults. |
07:28.48 | scanlime | damn.. this must be 1/4 the size of the equivalent code in SDL :) |
07:28.58 | scanlime | er.. lots smaller than that actually |
07:29.13 | scanlime | and this doesn't have hardcoded buffer lengths |
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08:43.38 | purple_cow | w00t |
09:00.59 | purple_cow | now all i have to do is wipe the old one and ship it back |
09:01.00 | purple_cow | hurray! |
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15:40.13 | hardwire | file: NoOP(${SIPPEER(1534:useragent)}) |
15:40.18 | hardwire | it was already in CVS |
15:40.24 | hardwire | but as a function vs app |
15:40.37 | hardwire | so my patch meant nothing |
15:46.33 | file | hardwire: poor you |
15:46.40 | hardwire | yeh |
15:46.41 | hardwire | poor me |
15:46.50 | hardwire | it looks like my code too |
15:46.58 | hardwire | only the way chipx86 wanted me to do it |
15:47.00 | hardwire | so.. now I know |
16:06.19 | file[laptop] | hardwire: wideband man |
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17:14.18 | scanlime | hmm |
17:14.59 | scanlime | Microchip has some PICs with USB full-speed, in the same package as the little '16c745/765 I've been using a lot of |
17:15.21 | scanlime | I could fairly easily upgrade my rasterwand to have a more sane protocol and better framerate :) |
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17:35.07 | kergoth | morning |
17:36.07 | Cae | afternoon :) |
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17:50.26 | darth_mall | guh |
17:50.28 | darth_mall | I hate this lab |
17:54.07 | scanlime | I love this USB analyzer :) |
17:56.44 | hardwire | I bet you do |
17:56.52 | hardwire | file[laptop]: rawr? |
17:57.10 | file | woof |
18:01.08 | hardwire | its in the wall |
18:01.13 | hardwire | wideband.. man |
18:03.01 | file | hehe |
18:03.44 | hardwire | this suuuuuuuucks |
18:03.51 | hardwire | I hade red alarms |
18:03.55 | hardwire | hade/hate |
18:04.25 | hardwire | so I am on a search for this drink: http://www.chaserenergy.com/ |
18:04.52 | file | how can I get the IP of an interface on a SunOS box? |
18:04.55 | hardwire | we have none of the "Available Ats" in alaska |
18:05.03 | hardwire | file: ip? |
18:05.05 | file | I have never ever used SunOS in my life... |
18:05.50 | numist | file: I recall on solaris ifconfig should work.. I have a book around here somewhere on sun admin |
18:06.03 | file | well I tried, it wants an interface name I think |
18:06.14 | numist | well thats helpful of them |
18:06.22 | file | ugh this would be much easier if I could find it on the IP list |
18:06.47 | hardwire | sudo nmap -sP subnet/mask |
18:06.58 | hardwire | it will return the nic type |
18:07.04 | hardwire | fingerprint the entire subnet for sunos :) |
18:07.11 | numist | :o |
18:07.13 | file | lol |
18:07.25 | file | I don't think I have a complete list for IPs |
18:13.35 | hardwire | file: the notify works.. |
18:13.37 | hardwire | well |
18:13.38 | hardwire | actually |
18:13.43 | hardwire | the notify right after the re-subscribe |
18:13.48 | hardwire | on my snoms |
18:13.57 | hardwire | so.. eevry 5 minutes I get an update on the extensions in use |
18:14.00 | hardwire | sweet eh? |
18:28.22 | file | sure. |
18:35.32 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html yay! |
18:53.12 | lurgy|work | heh |
18:53.14 | lurgy|work | hmm |
18:53.15 | lurgy|work | class time. |
18:53.51 | darth_mall | run lurgy! |
19:12.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): expose fucntion to see what base is at a 3d point in the world |
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19:32.22 | purple_cow | http://flickr.com/photos/thesingingleaf/46654851/ |
19:32.25 | purple_cow | fan-cake :) |
19:32.58 | scanlime | hehehe |
19:33.03 | scanlime | I want one |
19:39.03 | darth_mall | hmmm |
19:39.14 | numist | I want a bill that I can redeem for gold at the Federal Reserve.. it would be so cool to do that |
19:41.50 | Cae | class |
19:43.00 | purple_cow | yay! i can use /usr/portage again! |
19:44.24 | scanlime | decadence! |
19:45.14 | purple_cow | heh |
19:45.47 | scanlime | or.. wholesome package management fun for the whole family? |
19:45.56 | purple_cow | either or |
19:52.17 | scanlime | mm, dresden dolls and garlic bread |
19:53.36 | numist | great.. whenever I open a folder explorer crashes... |
19:53.37 | numist | wtf |
19:53.57 | scanlime | it's a feature |
19:54.07 | numist | its a feature that is preventing me from doing work |
19:54.45 | darth_mall | those are the best kinds of features |
19:55.29 | scanlime | I just *love* scanning for life forms! |
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20:06.33 | hardwire | weird deadlock |
20:07.41 | file[laptop] | in asterisk? no way!!! those don't happen |
20:08.53 | numist | dell makes TVs now? |
20:08.55 | numist | ... |
20:09.06 | numist | and MS writes their firmware? |
20:09.11 | purple_cow | dell doesn't make anything :P |
20:09.14 | scanlime | my TV runs linux :) |
20:09.18 | purple_cow | dell has sold TVs for quite a while |
20:09.25 | numist | scanlime: is that so? |
20:09.34 | numist | scanlime: do you have sshd on your TV? :P |
20:09.35 | scanlime | numist: yup. the OSD about menu has a copy of the GPL in it :) |
20:10.01 | numist | :) |
20:11.33 | hardwire | file[laptop]: queue related |
20:11.52 | file[laptop] | app_queue and chan_agent are both easy deadlockers |
20:12.11 | hardwire | well they are about to be relieved from duty.. sIIIRRRRR |
20:12.21 | hardwire | just going to have to multi channel dial |
20:12.25 | hardwire | goign to have to do that anyways |
20:12.33 | hardwire | once I figure out why chanisavail is funk didly ucking |
20:12.43 | file[laptop] | what are you trying to do with it? |
20:12.49 | hardwire | its our operator queue |
20:12.52 | hardwire | it rings 5 phones |
20:12.54 | hardwire | thats it |
20:13.24 | hardwire | file[laptop]: cause I want it to ring the next available operator.. |
20:13.29 | hardwire | we all have Caller Waiting |
20:13.35 | hardwire | ChanIsAvail helps that happen |
20:13.45 | file[laptop] | what a setup. |
20:13.50 | hardwire | shut up |
20:13.52 | hardwire | you think you know me |
20:13.54 | hardwire | you don't know me |
20:14.15 | hardwire | mm |
20:14.17 | hardwire | taco bell |
20:14.19 | hardwire | I feel better |
20:14.55 | hardwire | so I am the only person who gets things from our hardware supplier.. and a package from them showed up today.. |
20:14.58 | hardwire | a Thinkpad G41 |
20:15.01 | hardwire | no idea why |
20:15.09 | numist | sweet |
20:15.20 | file[laptop] | has anyone claimed it yet? |
20:15.27 | numist | I ordered that |
20:15.59 | hardwire | well |
20:16.15 | hardwire | the PO on it.. is 092601-VOIPSNPSRV |
20:16.20 | hardwire | an order I placed two days ago |
20:16.24 | hardwire | a new mainboard for a server |
20:16.28 | numist | haha |
20:16.49 | file[laptop] | ...interesting |
20:18.03 | scanlime | lookit all the Xen commits using an ass-ugly CIA client script... |
20:18.23 | hardwire | I got the mainboard too |
20:18.24 | hardwire | so |
20:18.26 | hardwire | confused. |
20:18.33 | hardwire | maybe its a gift :) |
20:18.46 | numist | scanlime: you havent yet? |
20:18.49 | hardwire | in which case I have to delete the voicemails I left saying "did you order a laptop?" |
20:18.56 | scanlime | numist: I've been lazy about CIA... |
20:19.03 | numist | hadnt noticed >_>L |
20:19.05 | numist | -L |
20:19.09 | scanlime | hehe |
20:19.20 | darth_mall | scanlime: or you could just stab them in the mouth |
20:19.30 | numist | not used to typing on my thinkpad keyboard. thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it |
20:20.33 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
20:20.35 | purple_cow | http://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/sets/603279/ |
20:20.50 | hardwire | file: doh.. pickup is freakign out |
20:21.13 | purple_cow | Capers, fish, and a raw egg on rye bread with... dill and/or parsley. |
20:21.13 | purple_cow | "This little piece of yummy we recommend to all that think that it's nice to whet yheir appetite before starting a good meal. But of course it can be offered as a goodbye snack when you have had a fun night and small hours are present." |
20:21.18 | file[laptop] | hardwire: good for it. |
20:21.18 | scanlime | ooh.. I love the sound my stack makes as this code runs :P |
20:21.27 | hardwire | file[laptop]: YOU DON'T CARE DO YOU! |
20:21.32 | hardwire | :) |
20:21.35 | file[laptop] | hardwire: not when you're that descriptive :P |
20:22.22 | hardwire | looks like I bough a Thinkpad G41 for $569.75 |
20:22.33 | hardwire | I should just reorder the contents for what was supposed to be in this box |
20:23.02 | hardwire | file[laptop]: later after I finger it out |
20:23.15 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh my... |
20:23.45 | file[laptop] | yay Chip |
20:23.49 | purple_cow | i love how about half the photos belong to the "Don't eat that!" pool :) |
20:24.21 | scanlime | hehe |
20:24.49 | ChipX86 | "VMWare's killer-robot program has now been dealt a severe setback..." |
20:24.56 | numist | :( |
20:24.58 | scanlime | :) |
20:25.10 | scanlime | Tam makes me smile |
20:25.23 | ToyKeeper | eh? |
20:25.35 | ChipX86 | that's a real shame |
20:25.38 | scanlime | ToyKeeper: the guy that posted that to fun-list... |
20:25.40 | ChipX86 | I was looking forward to that |
20:25.43 | scanlime | yeah |
20:25.44 | ToyKeeper | Ah. |
20:25.49 | ChipX86 | I did some of the initial concept design for it |
20:25.52 | ToyKeeper | Tam is my roommate. She makes me smile too. :) |
20:25.56 | ChipX86 | http://view.sf.net/libview-arrives.png |
20:26.04 | purple_cow | ``It has been said that raw steak isn't appropriate for gallstone patients because it causes stark gall bladder excretion. But if you health is not a factor, choose some great meat and the enjoyment will be perfect!'' |
20:27.05 | ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/photos/people/shmoo/xmas2001_042.jpg |
20:28.49 | hardwire | doh |
20:28.52 | scanlime | ooh |
20:29.04 | ChipX86 | nice |
20:29.06 | scanlime | it's taking a while :P |
20:29.09 | kergoth | fun |
20:29.27 | ChipX86 | if you connect a hundred USB devices to a computer, all the stability of Windows will be unveiled. |
20:29.29 | numist | infinite? |
20:29.38 | kergoth | i emailed in sick today, wasnt feeling well this morning.. now i'm thinking about seeing how productive i can be working from home |
20:29.39 | numist | ChipX86: you mean stripped away? |
20:29.53 | purple_cow | oooog |
20:29.56 | purple_cow | http://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/29969381/in/set-603279/ |
20:30.31 | kergoth | .. |
20:31.34 | hardwire | .. |
20:32.11 | hardwire | purple_cow: I had a nutritionist tell me I need to eat more rare/raw steaks |
20:32.25 | hardwire | I didn't |
20:33.55 | darth_mall | it's not very tasty, IMO |
20:33.59 | hardwire | well |
20:34.09 | hardwire | they had to cover it in raw egg of some cish like thing |
20:34.16 | hardwire | cish/fish |
20:34.22 | hardwire | and raw egg of some chicken like thing |
20:34.36 | darth_mall | mmmm... fish eggs |
20:35.00 | hardwire | The beginning of the story of the raw steak tells that ancient sheherds put the meat between the saddle and the horse so that when the men rode their horses, the meat became tender and edible without cooking or frying. The best but also the most expensive raw steak is from scraping meat from a well hung cow's inner filet. In other cases of course meat will get chosen by the size of the wallet and the size of the party. |
20:35.01 | hardwire | that ain't cool |
20:35.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
20:35.18 | purple_cow | closest i've had to raw "meat" was whale sashimi |
20:35.25 | purple_cow | which was really tasty |
20:35.40 | hardwire | mammel meat |
20:35.42 | hardwire | mammal |
20:35.48 | hardwire | mamoo |
20:35.50 | hardwire | ugh |
20:36.05 | kergoth | ~spell mammel |
20:36.09 | kergoth | :P |
20:36.22 | hardwire | ~spell kergoth |
20:36.29 | kergoth | lol |
20:36.32 | ChipX86 | keithgoth |
20:36.39 | hardwire | cargo girth |
20:36.45 | ChipX86 | cowgoth |
20:36.47 | hardwire | heh |
20:37.00 | hardwire | Kirghiz |
20:37.01 | hardwire | now |
20:37.04 | hardwire | thats a cool nick |
20:37.10 | hardwire | ~dict Kirghiz |
20:37.16 | scanlime | goddamnit windows, I don't want to restart just 'cuz I added a USB hub |
20:37.22 | ChipX86 | haha |
20:37.25 | ChipX86 | poor scanline |
20:37.29 | hardwire | poor indeed |
20:37.35 | hardwire | poor poor poor |
20:37.37 | hardwire | actually |
20:37.40 | hardwire | he probably makes more than I do now |
20:37.41 | numist | lots of sympathy coming from this corder |
20:37.43 | numist | corner* |
20:37.45 | scanlime | I also don't want to restart because I just added 50 hubs... |
20:37.54 | hardwire | scanlime: if it were 10.. no problem? |
20:37.55 | kergoth | mm, dresden dolls makes good background music for coding |
20:38.05 | hardwire | or did it suddenly add another HCI? |
20:38.08 | hardwire | to handle it iall |
20:38.32 | scanlime | um |
20:38.38 | scanlime | that didn't make any sense :P |
20:38.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
20:39.13 | hardwire | scanlime: it does to me |
20:39.17 | hardwire | thats all that matters |
20:39.43 | scanlime | I'll have to make sure to consult the HCI people here before I commit this USB code :P |
20:39.45 | hardwire | scanlime: just trying to fathom why windows would do that |
20:40.00 | scanlime | :) |
20:40.01 | ChipX86 | hardwire: it's.. badly designed? |
20:40.03 | hardwire | I can only think of one time I did that.. I plugged in a PCMCIA USB HCI |
20:40.07 | hardwire | and it did that |
20:41.01 | scanlime | hardwire: no new HCs, just new devices |
20:41.13 | scanlime | VMware's HC is part of the motherboard chipset |
20:41.15 | hardwire | quite silly |
20:41.36 | scanlime | the amazing Intel PIIX4 (tm) |
20:41.37 | hardwire | I have never had a need for PCI-X until now |
20:42.02 | ChipX86 | did you find out what PIIX4 means? |
20:42.10 | scanlime | yes, that's why it's funny |
20:42.19 | purple_cow | hehe |
20:42.30 | ChipX86 | ok, care to enlighten me? |
20:42.32 | purple_cow | very funny |
20:42.36 | hardwire | its really weird seeing modern day mainboards with videoram slots |
20:42.41 | scanlime | PCI to IDE/ISA Xcellerator |
20:42.44 | scanlime | for the 440BX chipset |
20:43.13 | hardwire | I bet its IPMI |
20:43.15 | hardwire | not video ram |
20:43.26 | hardwire | theres an intel chip thats huge right underneath it |
20:46.38 | hardwire | ooooh |
20:46.44 | hardwire | its for the 6300ESB chip |
20:49.05 | darth_mall | yay! done with my UI homework |
20:49.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzadmin.vcproj: need the have curses #def to use curses |
20:50.18 | darth_mall | I am so very tired right now |
20:52.39 | scanlime | sigh, it's been hard finding people to review my change involving spinlocks in one of the windows drivers |
20:52.40 | darth_mall | purple_cow: don't suppose you've heard anything from Daniel, have you? |
20:52.48 | darth_mall | heh |
20:56.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: nope |
20:57.20 | darth_mall | didn't think so |
20:57.28 | darth_mall | I should've said something to him in lab today... >< |
20:58.22 | purple_cow | grph |
20:58.27 | purple_cow | he doesn't have a phone number listed :P |
20:58.43 | darth_mall | =\ |
20:58.58 | darth_mall | huh... Kendar doesn't like feta... |
20:59.16 | purple_cow | weird |
20:59.47 | darth_mall | I would've thought she'd like that kind of food... oh well |
21:03.00 | darth_mall | you know... I think I like purple_cow's menu mock-ups more and more everytime I look at them ^^ |
21:04.13 | purple_cow | :) |
21:07.24 | scanlime | mm, good dessert today |
21:07.29 | scanlime | some kind of layered ice cream and cake contraption |
21:08.12 | darth_mall | ugh... I don't recall anything Amer said about black box testing |
21:09.06 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yeah |
21:09.13 | ChipX86 | tiramisu I think the guy called it |
21:09.21 | scanlime | oh, hehe |
21:09.26 | ChipX86 | I was just in there |
21:09.27 | scanlime | I didn't know tiramisu involved ice cream... |
21:09.32 | ChipX86 | dunno |
21:09.34 | scanlime | yeah, I saw you |
21:09.34 | ChipX86 | oh |
21:09.41 | ChipX86 | should have said hi |
21:09.48 | scanlime | you looked busy :) |
21:09.57 | ChipX86 | was I staring at the wall? |
21:10.01 | scanlime | probably :) |
21:10.04 | ChipX86 | then I was just broed |
21:10.06 | ChipX86 | er, bored |
21:10.14 | ChipX86 | and waiting for Regis, who I gave up on |
21:10.20 | scanlime | regis was right next to you |
21:10.27 | ChipX86 | oh |
21:10.40 | kergoth | http://dc5video.debian.net/ogg_theora/2005-07-11/05-Embedded_Debian_Demo-Wookey.ogg |
21:10.41 | kergoth | <hrw|tv> he mention OE few times too |
21:10.41 | kergoth | <koen> in a postive way |
21:10.41 | kergoth | <koen> 'debian doesn't support that, OE does' |
21:10.41 | kergoth | <koen> 'emdebian doesn't work, OE does' |
21:10.41 | ChipX86 | might have been that brief moment when we entered before he started talking to someone |
21:10.46 | kergoth | <hrw|tv> 'OE is good source all misc patches to get this right' |
21:10.47 | kergoth | :) |
21:11.04 | ChipX86 | this code muchly hates me |
21:11.29 | kergoth | :( |
21:11.42 | ChipX86 | scanlime: libview is in :) |
21:11.45 | scanlime | yay |
21:12.17 | purple_cow | scanlime: traditional tiramisu doesn't involve ice cream, but there's a lot of variation on the theme |
21:14.26 | scanlime | ah |
21:14.53 | purple_cow | hmm, that's something i should make sometime |
21:16.34 | hardwire | quesadillas? |
21:17.04 | scanlime | oh, sweet. |
21:17.13 | scanlime | I caused my linux guest's USB hub kernel thread to panic |
21:26.06 | hardwire | not that hard |
21:26.28 | hardwire | I sneeze at the USB controllers on 80% of my machines and they panic |
21:26.41 | scanlime | upgrade your kernel :P |
21:26.50 | scanlime | USB under linux is pretty good |
21:26.50 | hardwire | bad mainboards :) |
21:27.03 | hardwire | its really good on the 20% that don't have crappy USB controllers |
21:27.16 | scanlime | heh |
21:27.27 | scanlime | are you saying something about our USB controller? ;) |
21:27.38 | hardwire | the 440 one! |
21:27.43 | hardwire | no |
21:27.50 | scanlime | this isn't a real PIIX4 |
21:27.52 | hardwire | I am talking about the HCI on these realyl crappy soyo mainboards |
21:27.56 | hardwire | AMD |
21:28.01 | hardwire | older than shit |
21:28.20 | hardwire | or atleast much older than I would keep a turd on the floor around |
21:28.37 | purple_cow | i'd hope |
21:28.58 | hardwire | hmm |
21:29.07 | hardwire | debian is being weird again |
21:29.13 | hardwire | but for good reason |
21:29.23 | hardwire | it moved all packages listed as "kernel-image" to "linux-image" |
21:29.28 | hardwire | pre hurdanistic |
21:30.12 | numist | and it upgraded to xorg recently |
21:30.22 | hardwire | no kidding |
21:37.14 | ChipX86 | success! |
21:37.17 | ChipX86 | it all buildy-like! |
21:37.21 | scanlime | yay! |
21:37.25 | ChipX86 | scanlime: update bora-root and bora |
21:37.35 | ChipX86 | see how lovely it all is |
21:37.39 | ChipX86 | oh and expert world to build :) |
21:37.46 | ChipX86 | well not world, but all of vmui |
21:37.48 | scanlime | ahm.. maybe later |
21:38.19 | ChipX86 | funn |
21:38.40 | ChipX86 | why must I be hated by you, almighty sucky widget?! :( |
21:38.49 | scanlime | you have a sucky widget now? |
21:38.54 | ChipX86 | yeah |
21:54.29 | scanlime | yay, I get to recompile the GUI every time I pull out this patch :P |
21:54.49 | ChipX86 | doom doom doom |
21:54.52 | ChipX86 | it's only on hosted2005 right now |
21:54.57 | scanlime | oh |
21:55.00 | scanlime | well, I'm on main right now |
21:55.05 | ChipX86 | making it all go-happy-worky on main now |
21:55.28 | scanlime | poor windows driver patch.. will it ever get in? |
21:55.48 | scanlime | it's like 5 lines of code.. but in a fairly hairy driver that few people understand |
21:58.17 | file[laptop] | scanlime: do you have to be clinically insane to understand it? |
21:58.24 | scanlime | no |
21:58.30 | file[laptop] | darn |
21:59.24 | scanlime | although it really needs a comment to the effect of "You don't have to be crazy to work on this driver, but it helps" |
21:59.39 | file[laptop] | hehe |
22:02.08 | purple_cow | whee |
22:02.19 | purple_cow | tori amos' cover of '97 bonnie and clyde is so creepy |
22:03.03 | scanlime | purple_cow: remind me to burn a mi6k chip for you tonight, and whatever else you want if anything |
22:05.39 | purple_cow | remember to burn an mi6k chip for me tonight |
22:05.47 | scanlime | heh |
22:05.48 | scanlime | thanks |
22:05.56 | purple_cow | :) |
22:06.13 | scanlime | or I could wait and get some samples of that pin-compatible full-speed chip they have now |
22:06.17 | scanlime | you could have even faster IR! |
22:06.20 | purple_cow | 5v brick? |
22:06.23 | scanlime | ah, yes |
22:08.26 | ChipX86 | bah! Bah I say! |
22:08.36 | file[laptop] | are you a sheep? |
22:08.40 | ChipX86 | BAH! |
22:09.01 | ChipX86 | bahhh rammm youuu |
22:13.38 | ChipX86 | eep |
22:13.42 | ChipX86 | interview thingy |
22:13.47 | scanlime | have fun |
22:19.52 | scanlime | eep |
22:19.56 | scanlime | I have 22 snapshots on this VM... |
22:21.06 | hardwire | scanlime: hmm.. how are these crazy intel chips soldered onto mainboards nowadays.. totally funky low profile casing on the chips |
22:21.15 | scanlime | you mean BGA? |
22:21.32 | hardwire | does it look like thips sitting on a platter? |
22:21.37 | scanlime | ? |
22:21.39 | hardwire | heh |
22:21.43 | hardwire | I guess BGA |
22:21.47 | file[laptop] | hardwire: we're already under attack for forking |
22:21.49 | scanlime | ?????????!@#@!!@!@$??? |
22:21.54 | hardwire | file[laptop]: well duh |
22:22.10 | hardwire | scanlime: nm.. don't let me frustrate you |
22:22.22 | file[laptop] | hardwire: Mark called the boss of one of the contributors/my friend and proceeded to complain |
22:22.30 | hardwire | don't piss off mark |
22:22.42 | hardwire | and the only reason he is bitching is because you guys did this pre-astricon |
22:22.44 | CIA-5 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1734 10mck/simulator.py: simulator.py doesn't go here any more |
22:23.43 | hardwire | now you are the talk of the conference |
22:23.46 | hardwire | or will be |
22:23.52 | hardwire | its kinda a sneaky tactic when you think about it |
22:23.59 | hardwire | what do they call it.. stage stealing :) |
22:24.21 | hardwire | scanlime: yes.. Ball Grid Array casing |
22:24.52 | file[laptop] | hardwire: we wanted him to get the news just before he went on stage at Astricon |
22:25.19 | hardwire | just to un-nerve him? |
22:25.38 | file[laptop] | slightly, yes |
22:25.41 | scanlime | hardwire: they call those 'packages' and 'footprints' if you want to sound like you know what you're talking about ;) |
22:25.59 | hardwire | ok |
22:26.06 | hardwire | so its soldered on with lime juice then? |
22:26.08 | hardwire | :) |
22:26.13 | scanlime | heh |
22:26.21 | scanlime | they're soldered just like most surface mount chips are... |
22:26.28 | hardwire | with heat |
22:26.29 | scanlime | stick it on the board with solder paste and heat it up |
22:26.31 | hardwire | <- dumbass |
22:26.39 | hardwire | I wonder what the.. BGA footrprint looks like |
22:26.47 | scanlime | it's just a grid of little solder balls |
22:26.53 | scanlime | hence 'ball grid array' |
22:27.10 | hardwire | weird |
22:27.13 | hardwire | a grid of balls |
22:27.17 | hardwire | so borg |
22:27.46 | scanlime | haha, nice |
22:27.52 | scanlime | QA's getting an ipod mini for USB testing |
22:28.21 | hardwire | http://developer.intel.com/design/flcomp/prodbref/298113.htm |
22:29.07 | hardwire | well |
22:29.09 | hardwire | that explains that |
22:29.13 | hardwire | thanks for letting me waste brain cells |
22:29.17 | scanlime | hehe |
22:29.44 | scanlime | wow, stacked-csp looks cool |
22:30.55 | hardwire | yeh |
22:30.55 | hardwire | so much better than the old design |
22:30.55 | scanlime | "Low cost and reliability where size is not critical" |
22:30.56 | scanlime | reliability, or low reliabilitY? |
22:30.56 | hardwire | hahah |
22:30.59 | scanlime | you'd think they would avoid such ambiguity... |
22:30.59 | hardwire | well Easy BGA is characteristically High Reliability |
22:31.13 | hardwire | so |
22:31.15 | hardwire | this is driving me nuts |
22:31.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: thanks, I needed that |
22:31.26 | numist | yay quips pages |
22:31.31 | hardwire | the company that accidently shipped me this IBM thinkpad isn't answering |
22:31.34 | numist | <PROTECTED> |
22:31.41 | numist | hardwire: you should accidentally ship it to me |
22:31.48 | hardwire | I should accidently move it to my house |
22:32.09 | numist | I like my idea better |
22:32.15 | hardwire | hah |
22:32.19 | hardwire | let me see howm uch this product costs |
22:32.21 | hardwire | it has the code on it |
22:33.00 | hardwire | hinkPad G41 2886 - Mobile Pentium 4 532 3.06 GHz - RAM 256 MB - HD 40 GB - CD-RW / DVD - Mdm - LAN EN, Fast EN, 802.11b, 802.11g - Win XP Pro |
22:33.06 | hardwire | $988.70 |
22:33.13 | hardwire | 15" display |
22:33.27 | hardwire | high gloss display |
22:33.27 | hardwire | hmm |
22:33.42 | hardwire | this laptop is faster than both my laptop and my desktop combined |
22:33.57 | hardwire | just as much ram as them combined as well |
22:34.10 | purple_cow | 256? |
22:34.15 | hardwire | 1 gig |
22:34.16 | purple_cow | that's pretty low :P |
22:34.27 | purple_cow | not what you just said |
22:34.32 | hardwire | hah |
22:34.33 | hardwire | weird |
22:34.35 | hardwire | I read their site wrong |
22:34.43 | hardwire | 256 is pretty pathetic |
22:34.47 | hardwire | for that ghz |
22:35.22 | hardwire | mofo |
22:35.25 | hardwire | press 1 to leave a message |
22:35.27 | hardwire | mailbox is full |
22:37.09 | file[laptop] | I hate open source sometimes |
22:37.25 | file[laptop] | people combine their projects with their lives and turn it into politics |
22:37.28 | hardwire | thats why it hates you |
22:37.40 | hardwire | well it means alot to people |
22:37.42 | hardwire | they are in charge |
22:37.51 | scanlime | "We will be changing the CSGC administration password for all of the computers, so if you are a current user, please remove all personal files from any computer before the end of the week." |
22:37.56 | scanlime | I don't understand the causal relationship there |
22:38.12 | hardwire | scanlime: just remove your files and bend over like a good cubie, |
22:38.17 | kergoth | haha |
22:38.58 | hardwire | scanlime: I am guessing the non domain admin password per computer |
22:39.07 | hardwire | for off-line maintainence |
22:39.20 | scanlime | hardwire: stop guessing |
22:39.31 | hardwire | its the only thing that makes sense to me |
22:39.40 | file[laptop] | maybe they're reimaging them! |
22:39.48 | hardwire | they are going to invade your computer somehow |
22:39.56 | scanlime | GOD, UNLEASH YE THY TIDE OF STUPIDITY |
22:40.06 | hardwire | beh |
22:40.14 | hardwire | I don't lead a stupid life off-line :) |
22:40.15 | hardwire | only here. |
22:41.45 | file[laptop] | hardwire: ya know, technically I'm now REALLY against Digium |
22:42.03 | hardwire | file[laptop]: because they have open source hardware? |
22:42.21 | scanlime | I hate voip... |
22:42.32 | file[laptop] | hardwire: if you use Sangoma hardware, you're against Digium and Asterisk |
22:43.01 | hardwire | scanlime: you have every reason too.. it invades your channels.. attracts stupidity and sounds like crap.. |
22:43.14 | scanlime | it's just so boring... |
22:43.19 | hardwire | its 90% of files life |
22:43.23 | hardwire | its not boring for him |
22:43.24 | scanlime | I know :P |
22:43.46 | hardwire | its like.. 89% on my side |
22:43.50 | hardwire | atleast for the next few months |
22:43.51 | scanlime | I just often wish you two would head off to #voip-cluster-fuck and leave us alone |
22:43.59 | hardwire | keeeep on wishin |
22:44.03 | hardwire | we enjoy the persecution |
22:44.28 | numist | masochist |
22:44.37 | hardwire | poopoochist |
22:44.44 | hardwire | hmm |
22:44.47 | hardwire | now I want chinese |
22:45.40 | hardwire | numist: do you have terminal lockup issues in xorg? |
22:45.42 | hardwire | like |
22:45.45 | hardwire | x-terminal |
22:45.56 | hardwire | often select just doesn't work.. |
22:45.59 | numist | hardwire: I only use xorg on athena for x forwarding... its a headless machine |
22:46.06 | hardwire | hah |
22:46.10 | numist | so.. I dont wind up using x-terminal at all |
22:47.16 | hardwire | x takes up so much of my cpu |
22:47.22 | hardwire | I really want a new workstation |
22:48.01 | hardwire | and not a virtual one |
22:48.07 | purple_cow | kergoth: :) |
22:50.56 | scanlime | oop.. this BFS would be much more finite if I remember to pop things off the stack after visiting them |
22:51.43 | kergoth | hehe |
22:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r117 10docs/system-architecture/ (architecture.tex figures/ figures/modules.png): Added the information about the modules, as well as a nice picture. |
22:57.11 | darth_mall | oh noes! |
22:58.08 | darth_mall | awww... slimspace put in drop shadows ^^ |
22:58.16 | slimspace | :) |
22:58.50 | slimspace | you mean the red? |
22:59.09 | slimspace | or maybe... |
22:59.11 | darth_mall | it looks almost red on my computer |
22:59.34 | darth_mall | but it looks a lot like that salmon that Safeway carries that's been dyed to look fresh ^^ |
22:59.42 | scanlime | hehe |
23:00.11 | purple_cow | slimspace: is it possible to use .svg instead of .png? |
23:00.18 | purple_cow | png will look crappy when it's printed |
23:00.23 | slimspace | purple_cow: it is, if you don't want drop shadows. |
23:00.33 | darth_mall | obviously, since this is related to a computer in all the colors should be some shade of blue |
23:00.38 | darth_mall | s/in// |
23:01.09 | scanlime | you can do shadows using gradients in svg, they're just a pain |
23:01.33 | slimspace | yeah, I decided it would be much more worth my time to do the shadows in gimp and be done with it |
23:01.47 | hardwire | scanlime: I really shouldn't do voip anyways |
23:01.56 | hardwire | I am to much of a voyour |
23:02.08 | hardwire | err |
23:02.11 | scanlime | slimspace: I'd recommend making the shadows PNGs, then sticking those into the svg |
23:02.12 | hardwire | voyeur |
23:02.21 | slimspace | scanlime: hmm...good idea |
23:02.28 | scanlime | slimspace: you really want to keep most of the image svg so it prints non-craptastically |
23:02.40 | scanlime | a low-res shadow won't matter, since it's supposed to be blurry |
23:02.57 | darth_mall | lies! |
23:03.07 | darth_mall | I demand high-definition drop-shadows in all of our images! |
23:03.22 | scanlime | purple_cow: have you seen SDL 1.3's RenderTarget? |
23:03.30 | alm262 | hehe |
23:03.32 | purple_cow | scanlime: nope |
23:03.55 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's a sexy easy way to use pbuffers.. you allocate one at a particular size, lock it, render to it, then unlock it |
23:04.04 | purple_cow | makes sense |
23:04.06 | scanlime | the lock operation makes it the current draw target, the unlock operation reverses that and updates the texture |
23:04.19 | purple_cow | one of the big feature points of pbuffers is that they're really easy to wrap into objects |
23:04.26 | scanlime | yep |
23:04.48 | scanlime | so loopy has about a half-written python version of SDL's RenderTarget object |
23:05.11 | scanlime | hmm.. more flakiness uncovered in this |
23:05.17 | scanlime | need more coffee... |
23:06.05 | alm262 | scanlime: where's this SDL1.3 stuff? |
23:06.14 | alm262 | I haven't heard of major development on SDL for a long time |
23:09.50 | darth_mall | arg |
23:09.50 | scanlime | SDL has tons of new stuff in CVS, they just haven't had a release in ages |
23:10.05 | darth_mall | I don't know if I'm going to be able to get my AI homework done |
23:11.44 | darth_mall | hehe |
23:11.50 | darth_mall | squirrels playing tag on a tree outside |
23:12.06 | darth_mall | aww... one of 'em gave up |
23:12.10 | scanlime | they're fun to watch |
23:12.22 | scanlime | it's less fun when they make tons of noise at dawn |
23:12.50 | darth_mall | oh man I love people who shout into their cell phones in plubic |
23:12.54 | darth_mall | also in public |
23:13.07 | darth_mall | "HEY, THIS IS ELLIOT. HELLO?" |
23:13.26 | scanlime | HONEY CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M ON THE TRAIN. I'M TALKING ON MY CELL PHONE. EVERYONE LOOK AT ME WITH DISDAIN" |
23:13.32 | darth_mall | hehe |
23:14.33 | kergoth | was that supposed to rhyme? :P |
23:14.41 | scanlime | uh.. no |
23:14.57 | scanlime | yes.. you need one |
23:15.42 | kergoth | mm, guinness |
23:16.10 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r118 10docs/system-architecture/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ok, colors are a little more sane, and we have a proper svg for the diagram. |
23:20.45 | purple_cow | eek |
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23:32.52 | darth_mall | slimspace broke my system architecture doc! |
23:33.00 | kergoth | hehe, http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/maps/OE.php is cute |
23:33.08 | kergoth | yay google maps |
23:35.25 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r119 10docs/system-architecture/figures/modules.svg: oops, not an inkscape document. fixed |
23:37.50 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r120 10docs/system-architecture/figures/modules.svg: hard-coded paths = dead |
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23:46.28 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I missed you |
23:48.35 | darth_mall | it looks like he lives on a highway... |
23:50.37 | kergoth | that dot isnt quite by my house, thats about a mile away or so, but yeah, i'm just off of 169 |
23:50.38 | kergoth | hehe |
23:51.21 | darth_mall | I pictured you living in a tent just beyond the guard rail on the highway ^^ |
23:52.28 | darth_mall | you were like some kind of magical highway hobo |
23:52.38 | slimspace | nm, /me didn't look far enough up |
23:55.00 | ChipX86 | yay |
23:55.03 | ChipX86 | I have bug #777777 |
23:55.08 | darth_mall | good job |
23:55.30 | scanlime | nice |
23:55.47 | purple_cow | yay, just 2 more "buildings" and some edges and i'm done :) |
23:55.56 | darth_mall | sweetness! |
23:56.19 | darth_mall | beware my wrath, should I be disappointed |
23:56.33 | scanlime | what'cha drawing? |
23:56.42 | darth_mall | yaoi |
23:56.55 | scanlime | hehe |
23:56.58 | darth_mall | oh... you meant purple_cow |
23:57.22 | numist | it should not be dying whenever I open a folder |
23:57.25 | slimspace | yay, golem is finally done upgrading |
23:57.31 | darth_mall | booo! |
23:57.32 | numist | oof its all assembly |
23:57.46 | scanlime | what did you expect? |
23:57.49 | numist | ah found the problem though |
23:58.06 | numist | scanlime: I expected assembly, but x86 is always surprisingly ugly |
23:58.34 | numist | omg I have the windows source code! |
23:58.50 | scanlime | heh.. find the symbol server? :P |
23:58.56 | ChipX86 | ? |
23:59.13 | numist | memory management problem |
23:59.26 | darth_mall | memory management is for hookers and fat people |
23:59.33 | numist | psh |
23:59.46 | ChipX86 | scanlime: cplusplus's neurons finally caught up to the "bug report" thing from yesterday and is now trying to process it |
23:59.52 | scanlime | hah |
23:59.54 | numist | haha I cant do anything with it until I finish debugging.. d'oh |