irclog2html for #tacobeam on 20051030

00:07.04pagefaulthaha
00:07.05pagefaulttrix
00:13.33purple_cowzak: yes, yes, frozen, no
00:13.42purple_cowif you want the ginger, i'll move it to the fridge
00:16.03numistkergoth: or someone: wheres the ubermusic site, I lost my bookmark :(
00:17.18numistfound it :D
00:24.03ChipX86heh, talk about an involved mom
00:24.47ChipX86Jamie's mom called and wanted to let me know how upset Jamie has been and how worried she is that she messed up with me
00:25.00purple_cowwow
00:26.34numist?
00:28.45numist:(
00:29.12ChipX86she was apparently worried to the point of completely exhausting herself. She's asleep now
00:30.29ChipX86meh, what a day
00:30.37numistwow no kidding
00:31.50ChipX86grr.. damn UPS has my package in Sunnyvale. It says "Departure Scan" in Sunnyvale. Yet the site says I'm not getting it until Tuesday
00:32.22fileChipX86: look it up on iship.com
00:32.34filethey give more detailed info
00:32.47filewell, scans that usually don't appear on UPS tracking
00:38.19ChipX86pfft
00:38.25ChipX86it's being sent to Menlo Park
00:38.39numisthah
00:38.44ChipX86Sunnyvale <-> Mountain View <-> Palo Alto <-> Menlo Park
00:38.49ChipX86just send it directly to me!
00:38.59numisthaha
00:39.04filesee? isn't iship just handy dandy!
00:39.07ChipX86grrr
00:39.13numistnooo
00:39.30ChipX86I feel like going somewhere not here
01:08.43ChipX86maybe I'll go to the donut place
01:11.35pagefaultmmm donut
01:12.45ChipX86actually I should probably just stay here for when Jamie calls
01:13.08numistbring your phone and go to the donut shop, its walking distance, right?
01:13.19pagefaultwell
01:13.27pagefaultI think you should get some beer
01:13.30pagefaultand just go at it
01:13.30ChipX86yeah but I don't exactly want to have a long intimate conversation in a crowded donut shop
01:13.53numistChipX86: yeah, but when the phone rings, walking on the streets on the phone can be pretty relaxing since you can just power the walk
01:14.00pagefaultit will calm you down
01:14.09ChipX86yeah..
01:14.11numistdont know that I agree on the beer -- easily taken to excess, eh?
01:14.17ChipX86I don't drink beer
01:14.19pagefaultwell
01:14.26pagefaultI mean not drunk
01:14.28pagefaultjust get a good buzz going
01:14.31pagefaulttake your mind off it
01:14.38numisthah, and then answer the phone in that sort of state
01:14.40ChipX86caffeine and code is good enough for me
01:15.01pagefaultcaffeine just makes my mind go a mile a minute
01:15.40pagefaultjust do whatever makes you feel good
01:16.07pagefaultbrb
01:19.55CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2223 10libgalago/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
01:19.57CIA-5galago: Condense most of the logic and functions of GalagoAvatar and GalagoPhoto into
01:19.59CIA-5galago: GalagoImage. GalagoAvatar and GalagoPhoto no longer have their own image set/get
01:20.01CIA-5galago: functions, and instead their object-specific code is handled through a virtual
01:20.03CIA-5galago: function.
01:35.27kergothgeh
01:35.33kergothanyone know how to mount a bin/cue in linux?
01:35.36kergothor convert it to an iso
01:46.33pagefaultno idea
01:46.35pagefaultisobuster in windows
01:46.59pagefaultit runs in wine
01:56.55ChipX86man I just can't type today
01:57.17ChipX86walked part-way here, forgot the power cable was at home, walked back, and then here again :P
02:02.12CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2224 10libgalago/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Use G_BEGIN_DECLS/G_END_DECLS instead of our own ifdef stuff.
02:06.16kergothChipX86, pagefault: i love my gnome mask.  -> http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/Desktop/sshot15.png
02:08.14ChipX86galago_image_get_image_data is a bit redundant..
02:08.37ChipX86but somehow galago_image_get_data seems to be not specific enough
02:08.50ChipX86s/be not/not be/
02:11.00pagefaulthehe
02:11.05pagefaultI have a female orc and a tauren mask so far
02:11.52kergoth:)
02:11.52kergothbeing a huge tauren wearing a gnome mask amuses me
02:11.52kergothlike you wont notice my horns
02:13.28CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2225 10libgalago/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Rename galago_image_{set,get}_image_data() to galago_image_{set,get}_data().
02:14.32CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2226 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gdk-pixbuf.c): Updated for the GalagoImage API changes.
02:15.35CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2227 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/avatar.c src/photo.c): Updated for the GalagoImage API changes.
02:16.02ChipX86wtf
02:16.18ChipX86I think my brain is stressed or something. I forgot for a moment which town I was in
02:18.15CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2228 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Updated to work with all the new API changes in libgalago.
02:23.01ChipX86my god. The person who just came in here does NOT need donuts
02:23.39pagefaultyou have wifi at the donut place?
02:23.42ChipX86yeah
02:23.46pagefaultwow cool
02:23.49pagefaultif only tim hortons did that
02:23.49ChipX8624/7 donut place with wifi and many forms of caffeine
02:23.59pagefaultor even
02:24.00pagefaultswiss chalet
02:24.00filepagefault: they'd make even more money!
02:24.02ChipX86which is why I'm here :)
02:24.09pagefaultI would never leave
02:24.22filepagefault: I bet their ultimate plan is to get everyone addicted to their coffee
02:24.26CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2229 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs):
02:24.27CIA-5galago: - Get rid of the GalagoAvatar and GalagoPhoto {set,get}_image_data functions.
02:24.27CIA-5galago: - Rename {set,get}_image_data() to {set,get}_data().
02:25.01pagefaultthose new tim hortons smoothies look... odd
02:26.34CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2230 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.override): Woops. Re-implement GalagoImage.get_data()'s override function.
02:27.31filea hot orange smoothee? hrm
02:29.20pagefaultyeah
02:29.21pagefaulteww
02:39.10gonkulatordarth_mall: we just got a josie and the pussie cats question in our game of Trivial Pursuit
02:39.33kergothhehe
02:39.44gonkulatorand its time for me to bbiab :)
02:39.48kergothentertaining movie
02:41.04fileI think my iPod hates me, and it broke itself
03:04.03kergothpagefault: check out the heads up display in wow: http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/Desktop/sshot14.png
03:04.31kergothboored
03:10.55pagefaultI will in a bit
03:10.57pagefaultdoing DM :)
03:19.28kergothahh cool :)
03:43.09pagefaultbah
03:43.13pagefaultwe got wiped
03:43.13pagefaultbleh
03:46.30kergoth:(
04:10.31purple_cowhttp://david.navi.cx/images/jack-o-lanterns.jpeg
04:21.14pagefaultwee
04:21.20pagefaultI got a nice head piece
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04:37.23file[laptop]darn
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04:54.53pagefault_wow
04:55.00pagefault_I am addicted again
04:55.03pagefault_I got bored of WoW
04:55.05pagefault_but I am into it again
04:55.46file[laptop]uh oh
04:56.26file[laptop]addictions, they're a dangerous thing
04:56.44pagefault_yes
04:56.57pagefault_I wonder if they have WoW addiction clinic
05:10.10rioterprobably in korea
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05:20.28Laser_DolphinMerow
05:21.17Laser_DolphinHave you heard about the Korean folks who have died from too much video game playing?
05:52.47kergothhehe. listening to an old george carlin album
05:52.58kergoth"You ever notice that you don't seem to get laid much on Thanksgiving?"
05:52.59ChipX86Jamie: "I'm up high at the top so that your laser can't.... what was that?!"
05:53.12kergoth"I think it's because all the coats are on the bed."
05:59.54numistChipX86: vmware is about to save me
06:20.44kergoth"And you know... leftovers give you the opportunity to feel good twice.  Did you ever think about that?"  "First, when you're putting them away, you think 'Great!  I'm saving food!'.  Then, a month later, when hair is growing out of it, and you're throwing it away, you think 'Great! I'm saving my life!'"
06:39.57ChipX86:D
06:40.03numistyou wouldnt believe this hackishness
06:40.04ChipX86what'd it do?
06:40.46numistI installed ws running ubuntu livecd, and then used it to install a system on the machine's disk, since I dont have a burner but I have the install iso
06:41.07numistI feel dirty, but it worked
06:56.44ChipX86mmm can't wait to get the 770
07:25.43ChipX86"Uncle Creamy, destroyer of worlds!"
07:26.01numistgrr
07:27.26numistChipX86: so I installed on the disk, and booted into the new system, and then guess what?
07:28.18ChipX86what?
07:29.00numistthe disk gives up the ghost and lets out the magic smoke
07:29.14numistwhat a night
07:29.25numistguess work isnt getting a new svn server tonight
07:29.28ChipX86ughh
07:29.38numistyeah
07:31.28ChipX86I think my laptop's HD is going too
07:31.51numist:(
07:31.54numistbacked up?
07:32.58numistlookin like one of those days
07:33.10ChipX86nope. I should back it up soon
07:33.39numistyep
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07:35.25numistwhoa, I had an 80gig lying around...  maybe tonight wont be so bad
07:35.31numistat least maybe I'll get done what I came to do
07:38.23ChipX86cool :)
07:38.34ChipX86heh, The Tick has the weirdest villains
07:39.37numistI havent watched that show since....   since it had just come on tv
07:39.58ChipX86"I.. Like.. Squirrels!!"
07:41.46numisthah
07:42.34ChipX86lost the desire to code
07:43.07ChipX86maybe I should destroy my mind and watch Evangelion
07:43.33numistmy roommate got civ4, thats a sweet game
07:43.42ChipX86oohh
07:43.48ChipX86I'm avoiding that
07:43.58ChipX86until they increase the number of legal hours in a day
07:43.59numistits GREAT
07:44.05numistand I'm going to start hacking on it tomorrow
07:44.08ChipX86:)
07:44.25numistby far the best feature they added was a clock in the top right of the screen
07:44.38numistyour system clock, so you know what time it is, and you can set an alarm on it, for when you need to go to bed, or something
07:44.45numistits the best idea so far
07:44.50ChipX86haha, that's what someone at work said yesterday :)
07:44.52numistthey improved a ton of the gameplay too...  oh man
07:45.49ChipX86wow
07:46.20numistit has python bindings for plugins, and all data in the game is xml
07:46.21ChipX86nice
07:46.23numistits paradise
07:46.24ChipX86haaha
07:46.30ChipX86I *love* how game companies are doing that
07:46.33ChipX86making the games extensible
07:46.42numistthe manual kinda reads like the whole game was written in python, its really funny
07:46.49ChipX86god that looks sexy. Now I want it :(
07:46.58numistI wouldnt play civ4 more than as many times as it took to win each type of win if I couldnt hack on it
07:47.22numistits the first true 3-d game that I've wanted
07:47.38numistactually, sim city 4 was good, but they cheated in a lot of places..  civ4 is just sexy
07:47.44rioterhaha
07:47.51rioterim not buying it till after my exams are finished
07:48.38rioterciv3 was bad for my health, i think it was more addictive than crack
07:48.55numistyeah
07:49.01numistthe clock saved my roomamtes life
07:49.09numistsince he almost missed a midterm from it
07:51.05ChipX86I have a large handful of games I want to finish... need to find time for them
07:51.25ChipX86Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Zelda: Minish Cap, We <3 Katamari, Fire Emblem 1, and Fire Emblem 2
07:51.43ChipX86the Fire Emblem games are *huge*
07:52.09numistwe <3 katamari is so awesome
07:52.26ChipX86I should go play that
07:52.26numistmy roommate plays it, I could care less, I just love to watch
07:52.30ChipX86only played a few levels
07:52.41ChipX86I dunno, I kinda like the first better, but I haven't played much of htis one ye
07:52.44ChipX86er, yet
07:53.07numistthis one is pretty awesome, they made a surprising amount of different goals
07:53.12ChipX86yeah
07:53.16ChipX86I think I'll go play
07:53.20ChipX86one more thing to do here first
07:53.26numistlike size based on only a certain item, or a number of items, or as big as possible, or as close to desired size as possible...
07:53.29numistetc etc
07:53.46ChipX86gotta say, the python bindings api rocks
07:53.51numistyeah!
07:54.01ChipX86only thing better is binding in C#
07:54.11numistand that excludes a lot of people
07:54.17numistId say more people know python than C#
07:54.27ChipX86galago will have official bindings for both
07:54.32numist:)
07:54.35ChipX86it already has C#, but they need to be updated for the new one
07:54.40ChipX86and galago-python is coming along soooo nicely
07:55.03ChipX86galago.init("myclient")
07:55.09ChipX86for service in galago.core_get_services():
07:55.16numist:)
07:55.19ChipX86<PROTECTED>
07:58.32ChipX86ick
07:58.42ChipX86they have a Meow Mix song they're advertising on TV
07:58.45ChipX86er, clock
07:58.51ChipX86every hour, it sings the Meow Mix song
07:59.31numistoh no
08:01.00CIA-5galago: 03chipx86 * r2231 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.override): Add untested support for GalagoPerson.{set,get}_property().
08:01.22ChipX86bah! I don't get Nicktoons anymore
08:01.48ChipX86and the halloween episode of Zim is on
08:02.21numistdamn them
08:02.34ChipX86no, my fault. I switched to a less expensive package
08:02.45numistdamn him
08:02.46ChipX86of course, with HBO and Cinemax and stuff, it's not much less expensive
08:02.47numist;)
08:02.50ChipX86:)
08:03.12numistwell, its looking like tonight wont be a complete waste
08:03.17ChipX86good :)
08:04.55rioterhttp://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=4715&z=3
08:04.59riotermmm
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08:05.42ChipX86hahhaa
08:05.43ChipX86awesome!
08:06.09ChipX86hmm, We <3 Katamari, or libgalago
08:06.29ChipX86Star Trek: TNG is on. Which points to libgalago
08:11.27ChipX86ok, who wants to help with some API design?
08:11.47purple_cowwhat's the question?
08:12.12purple_cowghosts are traditional halloween things, right? :)
08:12.27ChipX86I have galago_person_{get,set}_property() functions. This was fine before using GObject, but there's g_object_{set,get}_property(), which will conflict in most bindings. It's also just confusing
08:12.31ChipX86so I need a new name
08:12.48purple_cowwhat are examples of properties?
08:13.02ChipX86first-name, last-name, x-nokia-foo, etc
08:13.13numistnicely done, purple_cow, thats great
08:13.17ChipX86I'd actually like to move it all to GalagoObject anyway
08:13.37ChipX86but still, conflict
08:18.17purple_cowhmm
08:23.27numistgod damn..  this 4MB video card seems perpetually stuck in 640x480, and it hurts my head
08:23.37numistthe lcd struggles with it too, obvious scan lines
08:28.20ChipX86meh, can't come up with a sufficient name for this
08:33.48purple_cowChipX86: maybe set_person_property?
08:34.14ChipX86galago_person_set_person_property? Doable, though redundant
08:34.41ChipX86or if I move it to GalagoObject, galago_object_set_object_property, but that sounds weird given that g_object_set_property sets a property on a GObject
08:38.33purple_cowwhoa! suddenly it's MST
08:38.38purple_cowi had no idea that was tonight
08:39.05purple_cowwas wondering if my computer was wrong because i just upgraded some time-zone thing earlier tonight :P
08:45.07numistChipX86: did you just give that fella in #vmware the wrong email address? ;)
08:45.18ChipX86nope
08:45.22numisthehe
08:45.32ChipX86did I? That should be my e-mail address
08:46.23numistI was thinking @vmware.com :P
08:46.25ChipX86ah
08:46.32ChipX86I was tempted to give that out, but decided against it
08:46.35numisthehe
08:46.42numistdamn this video driver sucks...
08:46.45numister..  video card
08:46.56numistI'm so done with that
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09:14.01numistwhoa, its 1:00 again
09:14.05ChipX86yep
09:14.10ChipX86we went back in time!
09:14.17numistdamn, I could have used the extra sleep
09:14.18ChipX86man, I don't know what to say to this guy
09:14.23numistinstead I'm only motivated to stay up later
09:14.28ChipX86yep
09:14.32numisthe's in a tight spot, is he?
09:14.36ChipX86yeah
09:14.37numistI havent been paying attention
09:14.41ChipX86he thinks his VMs are lost and he's blaming VMware
09:14.45ChipX86but it's some kind of permissions issue
09:14.59ChipX86and he's running gentoo
09:14.59numistso why feel sorry for him?  sounds like a cluebat issue
09:15.09ChipX86because it happened during a hard lock
09:15.15numistouch
09:17.19purple_cowyay, all clean
09:18.48purple_cowtime to get some music going and continue the long, arduous process of cleaning 7 pumpkins worth of seeds
09:19.00ChipX86man, he needs to trust me on that :P his VMs are not dead
09:19.09numisthe's panicking, what would you do
09:19.12numisttoss him a Guide
09:19.14ChipX86yeah
09:28.43ChipX86was that subtle enough?
09:29.48numistwhich
09:29.53ChipX86the gaim stuff
09:29.58numistoh yeah
09:30.10numistnot sure that he got it
09:30.14ChipX86yeah
09:30.16numistI did notice that, slick
09:30.19ChipX86nor does he get that I work for vmware
09:30.22ChipX86oh well
09:30.40rioterheh
09:31.22numistyeah, this one might need a clue, but as a sysadmin he seems competant
09:31.27numistnot a coder though..  scary
09:31.30ChipX86nod
09:31.32ChipX86he's new in coding
09:31.39ChipX86he's IMing me now about that
09:31.49numistoh dear
09:46.10purple_cowugh
09:46.17purple_cowi'm going to have nightmares of pumpkin seeds tonight
09:54.37numistyou saving them for snacks later?
10:13.45purple_cowyep
10:13.59numistexcellent
10:14.05purple_cowjust it's a pain to separate them from the bits of flesh that they're attached to, and there's a freaking lot of them
10:14.19ChipX86numist: tada, WS 5.5 fixes everything
10:14.21numist7 pumpkins?  I imagine
10:14.24numistChipX86: :o
10:14.30numistall hail!
10:14.41ChipX86I think it was the gentoo package
10:14.43ChipX86but oh well
10:14.47ChipX86he's quite happy now
10:20.36numist:)
11:00.14purple_cowugh, late
11:03.09numistgnight
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12:30.55Veighthello
13:50.51file[laptop]ugh... early
15:30.34filehey kergoth
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17:48.12pagefault_bleh
17:48.16pagefault_destroy morning
17:48.43pagefault_insert caffeine drip
17:48.50ChipX86yep
17:49.46pagefault_quake time
17:56.04Veightsomeone has a txt file of Doom knee deep in the dead good book btw http://lib.ru/INOFANT/DOOM/doom1_knee_deep_in_the_dead-engl.txt
18:00.51ChipX86I wonder how accurate these 401k retirement calculators are
18:01.05ChipX86this one is claiming that at my current rate, in 39 years I should have over $3 million in savings
18:01.23kergothVeight: you havent read it :P
18:01.45Veightim doing it now
18:05.31ChipX86I have this desire to snapshot my Windows VM, format C:, and then revert to snapshot, just for fun
18:05.41ChipX86I think I just don't want to clean
18:07.01kergothVeight: we just annihilated mograine and whitemane, the three of us
18:07.08kergothVeight: at one point i had aggro from both :P
18:07.09ChipX86hmm, xcompmgr works in a VM. Wish it was a bit faster, but it works
18:08.10pagefault_hehe
18:08.36ChipX86ok we need to optimize it
18:08.46ChipX86I want composite to Just Work very smoothly
18:09.44ChipX86shame I don't work in that team.. but I could always write code and send it in anyway in my spare time
18:10.14kergothpagefault_: man.. respeced my shammy.. so i lost the 2h mace skill and re-got it, so now i'm back at ground zero on the skill
18:10.18kergothi /hate/ that
18:10.23pagefault_what
18:10.24pagefault_that sucks
18:10.33kergothyeah, its a talent point to get it
18:10.38kergothso unlearning.. poof
18:10.56kergothitd be nice if you didnt lose the skill, but its just like unlearning a profession
18:10.58ChipX86hmm if you reduce the shadow and opacity to a non-sucky value, it's not all that bad really
18:12.19ChipX86now why isn't my host handling compositing all that fast..
18:15.09pagefault_I noticed ever since I installed the addon pack I can't scroll back in my chat buffer
18:15.13pagefault_is there some option for that kergoth?
18:16.04pagefault_oh wait
18:16.04pagefault_nm
18:16.06pagefault_nm
18:16.06ChipX86man I love VMs
18:16.10pagefault_pgup/down
18:16.10pagefault_hehe
18:16.21ChipX86no more stupid chroot jails for building clean packages
18:16.24gonkulatoryay a darth_mall
18:16.33ChipX86gonkulator: do you love VMs?
18:17.12gonkulatorChipX86: who doesnt
18:17.16ChipX86:D
18:17.20gonkulator:)
18:17.56ChipX86LiveCDs are the old way of doing things now that the player is out. I've been informed of a large, popular linux distro that is going to start shipping VMs of their distros
18:18.32pagefault_oh man
18:18.34pagefault_I want that staff
18:18.36pagefault_soul harvester
18:18.47pagefault_it's a big scythe :)
18:20.02pagefault_http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20536
18:20.04pagefault_looks badass
18:24.16ChipX86three Ubuntu distros all running at the same time. CPU usage is hovering around 10-12% :)
18:25.03pagefault_hehe
18:25.08pagefault_3some
18:25.13ChipX86hah, less now. There was a screensaver running in a VM
18:25.27ChipX86also, tons of stuff running on the host
18:25.51pagefault_vmware seems to be trying to contact some vmware server when I open it
18:26.02ChipX86checking for updates
18:26.08ChipX86nothing else, I swear
18:26.10pagefault_ah ok
18:26.12pagefault_just wondered
18:26.23ChipX86you can turn that off
18:26.34pagefault_hehe I just got kinda freaked out when I installed this firewall
18:26.38pagefault_and it was trying to contact the net
18:29.56ChipX86I should screenshot
18:32.49pagefault_vmware pr0n
18:33.35ChipX86pr0n is a big usage of VMware, with ESX server and VMotion
18:33.50ChipX86the whole VMotion of the ocean thing
18:34.02pagefault_hehe
18:34.05pagefault_when does vmware sex server ship
18:34.07pagefault_:)
18:34.07ChipX86running joke at VMware
18:34.13ChipX86that's what some people call it internally :)
18:34.16ChipX86also, ACE is the VMware Condom
18:34.20ChipX86it keeps computers safe
18:39.20kergothpagefault_: i dunno, i always use the mouse wheel
18:39.25fileugh
18:39.31kergothpagefault_: if you want the buttons, you can enable them via /chatscroll
18:39.35pagefault_oh
18:39.36pagefault_wheel
18:39.39fileI'm being outright sarcastic in the Asterisk channel and this guy doesn't understand it
18:39.41pagefault_thats easier
18:39.42pagefault_hehe
18:39.44kergoth:)
18:39.52file<file> yes, I'm going to write a complete billing platform for free, put it up online for everyone to use, and not get a dime
18:39.52file<file> what a good idea
18:39.58kergothheh
18:40.03file<jpcarvalho> file can u help with this script?!
18:40.03file<jpcarvalho> can be a perl ... script.
18:40.12pagefault_hehe perl
18:41.49kergothpagefault, ChipX86: http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/Desktop/sshot16.png .. check out the unitframe
18:42.36filepagefault: this is fun
18:42.42pagefaultwhat video card are you using
18:42.47pagefaultfile, yes it is
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18:43.14kergothradeon 9600xt
18:43.22pagefaulthmm
18:43.26pagefaulthow many fps do you get in WoW
18:43.30pagefaultbeen a while since I played in linux :)
18:43.38kergothdepends
18:43.45kergothright now i'm fighting a bear and getting around 33
18:43.50pagefaultthats pretty good
18:43.55filehaha
18:43.58pagefaultabout as much as you get in windows
18:44.03pagefaulton that card
18:44.06kergothyeah
18:44.10kergothits comperable
18:44.19kergothwhen there's little activity, its much better than windows from waht i've seen.
18:44.24kergothi'll get 50-60 on a flightpath
18:44.40pagefaultdid they ever fix that opengl bug with the target circle
18:45.26kergothguh, this level 54 is gonna kick my ass
18:45.29kergothdamn low weapons skill
18:45.41kergothpagefault: dunno, havent seen any bugs myself wrt the graphics
18:45.48pagefaultI mean when you target something
18:45.52pagefaultyou see that green or red circle under it
18:46.15kergothi dont know what you mean.. oh, is thatwith the original blizzard unit frames?
18:46.18pagefaultyou couldn't see it in opengl
18:46.19kergothi dont remember the last time i used those
18:46.30pagefaultnono
18:46.35pagefaultwhen you click on a mob or a character
18:46.37pagefaultyou see a circle under them
18:47.13kergothohhh that
18:47.22kergothi see that
18:47.25kergothso i guess so
18:47.25pagefaultoh ok
18:47.26pagefaultthey did fix it then
18:47.28pagefaultthats good
18:47.30pagefaultyou couldn't see it before
18:47.32pagefaultsort of bothered me :)
18:47.46kergothclearly i never really paid attention to that
18:47.51pagefaulthehe
18:47.56pagefaultI like to see what I am attacking :)
18:48.47pagefaulthmm
18:48.59pagefaultI wish the minimap buttons were smart enough to spread out themselves
18:49.07pagefaultI hate having to play around with the settings to get them in the right place
18:49.19filemy mind is so screwed up since the clocks turned back
18:49.26fileI feel like I should eat in 10 minutes
18:49.52pagefaulthaha
18:50.23pagefaulthow did the conversation get from voip to billing
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18:50.37pagefaultkergoth, I just noticed
18:50.42pagefaultthat screenshot, look at the tail on your kodo
18:50.51kergothhaha
18:51.18pagefaultI need to get into AV
18:51.23pagefaultpeople are playing it again
18:51.24filepagefault: a guy wanted a billing system just for his stuff, for free
18:51.39filepagefault: do you see how as soon as you speak up and help one person they swarm? it's great!
18:52.15pagefaultit's like you are giving out free money
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18:53.00pagefaulthaha
18:53.03pagefaultthis place is funny
18:53.34pagefaultI need to get more gold :/
18:53.40pagefaultonly have 44 right now
18:54.12fileI'm evil
18:54.35fileLOL
18:54.38filepagefault: did you see what I did?
18:54.50filethey're going after Qwell now! hahahahaha
18:54.58pagefaulthahahaha
18:55.04pagefaultit's like a dog
18:55.09pagefaultand you just toss him some food
18:55.15pagefaultso now he's going to bed him
18:55.16pagefaulterr beg
18:55.25kergothbed him eh?
18:55.28filepagefault: you should help jpcarvalho
18:55.35filepagefault: see how much you can get out of him
18:55.41pagefaultI wonder if these people work for a company
18:55.44pagefaultthat would be pretty scary
18:56.09pagefaultkergoth, err no, I am no into that
18:56.11pagefault:)
18:56.16pagefaultbah
18:56.17pagefaultcan't type
18:56.35kergothpagefault: oh, also
18:56.45kergothpagefault: shift+scrollwheel_down = jump to the bottom of the chat
18:56.48kergothhandy
18:56.50pagefaultoh neat
18:57.00pagefaultyou can just your scroll keys too though
18:57.04pagefaultlike pgup/down
18:57.19pagefaulti'm a keyboard person :)
18:57.37kergothooh, i didnt know about shift+pgdown
18:57.39kergothslick
18:57.45pagefaultdoesn't home/end work?
18:57.48kergothno
18:57.52kergothbut shift+pgdown jumps to bottom
18:57.54pagefaultoh yeah
18:57.56pagefaultthat just zooms out
18:58.44fileI need to get up early tomorrow for UPS... yay
18:58.49pagefaultme too
18:59.08pagefaultI have class though
18:59.09ChipX86damn watch strap broke
18:59.15pagefaultso I hope the guy comes before I go
18:59.19ChipX863rd one
18:59.22fileChipX86: do you generate a b0rken field?
18:59.25ChipX86yes
18:59.34kergoth:(
18:59.36ChipX86everything I touch breaks
18:59.38ChipX86I don't get it
18:59.41pagefaultChipX86, don't pee
18:59.47kergothlol
18:59.59ChipX86:/
19:00.06filehe might break himself then
19:00.13ChipX86I don't break
19:00.18ChipX86never had a broken bone or anything
19:00.25filewell atleast that's good
19:00.32pagefaultI need to go to the UPS store tomorrow
19:00.37ChipX86probably should have, with the stuff I did as a kid
19:00.37pagefaultthats such a silly name
19:00.58pagefaultso I wonder if they let me ship with fedex and etc anymore there
19:01.02pagefaultbecause mailboxes etc used to
19:02.36pagefaulthehe
19:02.38pagefaultme too
19:02.39pagefaultbut
19:02.47pagefaultI can't believe this guy is shipping this to me
19:02.56filepagefault: do I dare ask, shipping what?
19:02.58pagefaulthe spent like $300 on an xbox and everything
19:03.04pagefaulthe moded it, upgraded the hard drive
19:03.09pagefaultgot me the HDTV kit and extra controllers
19:03.14pagefaultand paid $70 to ship it to me
19:03.17ChipX86nice
19:03.18pagefaultall so I can port zsnes to xbox
19:03.21ChipX86so he's screwed up!
19:03.23ChipX86:)
19:03.29fileyou better port it then
19:03.41ChipX86yeah really
19:03.45pagefaulthehe
19:03.48ChipX86it's PPC though now, isn't it?
19:03.55pagefaultwell
19:04.03pagefaultI think it will run on xbox 360 when it comes out
19:04.09pagefaultbecause it can run old xbox stuff
19:04.20ChipX86yeah, VirtualPC
19:05.18pagefaultI like my new crown in wow
19:05.20pagefaultit's nice
19:06.06pagefaultI am going to need more epic gear though if I want to do well in pvp
19:06.15kergothpagefault: in those last screen shots, did you notice the unitframe?
19:06.25ChipX86must.. clean..
19:06.29pagefaultyeah
19:06.30kergothpagefault: the player buffs are shown on the player frame just like they are on the target. no more
19:06.33ChipX86must not install Nokia 770 build environment..
19:06.34kergothhorribly inefficient blizzard one
19:06.38kergoth:)
19:06.41filebad Chip bad
19:06.46pagefaulthehe
19:06.57pagefaultI guess blizzard just thinks people use a UI mod anyway
19:06.58pagefaultso why fix it
19:07.12kergothhehe
19:07.23pagefaultwhat are you using to get all your buttons like that at the bottom
19:07.37kergothvisor, its like moveanything
19:07.40kergothonly more powerful
19:07.46pagefaultah yeah
19:07.46kergothi can send you my Visor.lua
19:07.49pagefaultI think I will switch to that
19:07.50kergothas a starting point
19:07.55kergoththe current kergothwowbits uses it
19:07.56pagefaultit looks good
19:07.57kergothits slick
19:07.58pagefaultless clutter
19:08.01kergothi've got some bars autohiding and shit
19:08.06kergothlike, on that screenshot..
19:08.10kergothif i move down into the lower right corner
19:08.14kergoththe microbuttons show up
19:08.18kergoththe talent, quest, etc
19:08.22pagefaultcan that still handle pet actions?
19:08.41kergothi think my current config has the pet bar and stuff hidden, accidentally
19:08.52kergothanything whose parent is the main menu bar also gets hidden when you hide the main menu bar
19:08.56kergothso need to parent those
19:09.07kergotheasy to fix, at any rate
19:10.06pagefaultI have way too many actions
19:10.29ChipX86eep!
19:10.29kergothwhat i want to do.. and you can easily do it with visor.. is some flexbar type stuff
19:10.33ChipX86they're coming after 3, not after 6!
19:10.36kergothbars that autoadjust to being in combat or not
19:10.43pagefaultyeah that would be good
19:10.50kergothand bars taht pop out with my totems
19:10.53kergothone for each element
19:11.13pagefaultI need to write an autocurse bar
19:11.18pagefaultso like curse of shadows if succy is out
19:11.23pagefaultor curse of elements when imp is out
19:11.25kergoththatd be cool
19:11.53pagefaultmy VW hardly gets any action anymore
19:12.28pagefaultI was thinking about respecing to demonology
19:12.32pagefaultnot sure though
19:12.57kergothi switched my shammy from enh/rest to rest/enh, for mana tide totem, for the higher pve stuff.
19:13.10pagefaulthehe
19:13.16pagefaultI really don't want to give up dark pact
19:15.24pagefaultdamnit
19:15.26pagefaultI want to hit 60
19:16.02kergothheh
19:16.03kergothwhat are you at?
19:16.14pagefault59
19:16.16pagefault75% complete
19:18.21kergothah nice
19:18.45kergothi'll hit 57 in 20 minutes or so.  STILL havent done a successful brd run.  tried 3 times now, all fell apart half way through
19:18.51kergoth~lart pickup groups
19:20.39pagefaulthehe
19:20.42pagefaultI want to transfer :)
19:21.11pagefaulthttp://www.blizzcon.com/imageviewer.shtml?http://www.blizzcon.com/photos.shtml?2@3,/images/screenshots/,32,56,http://www.blizzcon.com/photos.shtml?2@3
19:21.13pagefaultobese mage
19:21.52kergothhehe
19:31.21pagefaulthahaha
19:31.30pagefaultMS anti-spyware blocked a MS program from doing something
19:31.41kergothsmooth
19:33.30fileI have a plan to keep my sanity on the 16 hour train ride to Montreal...
19:33.37fileit's evil
19:33.50filebecause, well, I'm evil
19:35.27Veightooo
19:35.41kergothi love it when i level from discovering an area
19:35.43fileVeight: it involves the internet, and bugging you!
19:35.44kergothbeyo's 57 now :)
19:35.52Veightoh
19:35.57pagefaultdo they have wifi on that route?
19:36.04Veighti was meaning the wow tournys at blizzcon
19:36.10Veightthey give you 1 of each class to pick from
19:36.14Veightthen you spec out the talents
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19:38.03fileVeight: are you... undead
19:38.04file?
19:38.18Veightyeah :P
19:38.21pagefaulthmm
19:38.23pagefaultnot that bad
19:38.28pagefault$200 for montreal from toronto
19:38.31pagefaultcheaper than flying
19:38.37pagefaultand this is first class
19:38.58pagefaultplus free wifi
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19:42.09filepagefault: neat
19:42.44fileit cost the same for me, in the cheapest service
19:50.03kergothowwww
19:50.24kergothpagefault: just picked up "blood of heroes" by a lake in the eastern plaguelands and got my ass kicked in about 2 seconds flat by 2 level 60 elite ghosts
19:50.25kergothhehe
19:50.27kergothoops.
19:50.58pagefaulthahahahaha
19:51.00pagefaultyou too?
19:51.12pagefaultI just saw it and I was like
19:51.16pagefault"oh cool let me pick that up"
19:51.28pagefaultthen all those guys spawned
19:51.28pagefaulthehe
19:52.06kergothhaha
20:02.11kergothpagefault: ah, apparently blood of heroes is an objective of a couple epic armor quests
20:03.00kergothhttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=6430 .. yummy
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20:07.59fileVeight`: stop breaking stuff
20:08.13Veight`lol
20:09.33Veight`blame people who ban my IP so i go on my second one and get in and piss them off :P
20:09.41file[laptop]'tsk 'tsk
20:15.02darth_mallVeight: what are you doing to get banned?
20:29.17pagefaultkergoth, I want to get my warlock stuff
20:29.24pagefaultmy epic mount is going to be hard
20:29.27pagefaultI have to do some instance or something
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20:55.45Sophie197yay
20:55.55kergothyay?
20:56.18kergothah
20:56.18kergothyay
21:02.33darth_mallsweet!
21:02.42darth_mallMartin just moved the due date of this homework back to Friday =D
21:15.35pagefaultholy shit
21:15.39pagefaulteveryone is driving like a moron today
21:15.43pagefaultI almost got hit twice
21:17.17pagefaultI am so freaking stressed out now
21:17.20pagefaultI need a beer
21:17.39pagefaultscrew it
21:17.44pagefaultI am going to go kill some night elves and gnomes
21:17.47pagefaultthat will make me happy again
21:17.56numist:/
21:24.57Sophie197man
21:25.06numistmm?
21:25.33Sophie197Miles is SO lazy
21:26.08Sophie197it's incomprehensable.
21:26.17Sophie197I think kergoth should talk to him
21:26.31Sophie197cause he must be depressed or something, to be so lazy
21:26.47file[laptop]kergoth is an expert on that
21:27.15Sophie197maybe I should have him on drugs or something.
21:27.35pagefaultdrug him!
21:27.56pagefaultthen do what you want with him
21:27.59pagefaultI am sure he will enjoy it
21:28.03Sophie197Okay.
21:28.13Sophie197happy drugs it is.
21:28.27pagefault"mmm this food tastes good, what's in it?"
21:29.19pagefaultfile[laptop], how can I cluebat everyone in #asterisk without getting out of my chair
21:29.51file[laptop]pagefault: meh who knows
21:29.57pagefaultthey should go to cluecon
21:29.59pagefaultmaybe they would get a clue
21:30.06file[laptop]if only, if only
21:30.30pagefaultcol mustard did it in the study with a voip wireless phone
21:31.25pagefaultyou must come out here again
21:31.28pagefaultso we can revisit the KFC
21:31.52file[laptop]with the silly asian people?
21:31.55pagefaultyes
21:32.09pagefaultthe population here is 52% asian
21:32.14pagefaulttechnically I am a minority
21:33.00file[laptop]I think I've convinced a friend to come with me in April to VON Canada in Toronto :)
21:33.10pagefaultooh
21:33.12pagefaultI should go
21:33.14pagefaultsince it's here
21:33.22pagefaultI might learn something
21:33.26file[laptop]I can get you a pass
21:33.30pagefaultsure
21:33.39pagefaulti'll go :)
21:33.44file[laptop]you can poke fun at Intel and Cisco and people
21:33.55file[laptop]and get free stuff!
21:33.59pagefaultyay free
21:34.22pagefaultI wonder when the next computer show is here
21:34.27pagefaultI want to grab some more discounted hardware
21:34.44pagefaultI was thinking about setting up a 486 beowulf cluster
21:38.02pagefaulthmm
21:38.09pagefaultbell is releasing a new DSL modem to customers that has voip support
21:38.20file[laptop]ooh
21:38.54pagefaultyou think voip will be free eventually
21:38.59pagefaultI mean we won't be using phone lines
21:39.02pagefaulteverything will be IP based
21:39.08file[laptop]if peering with all the providers happens, potentially
21:39.20file[laptop]it still costs transit to make the calls though
21:39.27pagefaultthats true
21:39.33pagefaultbut I mean what is the major cost of VoIP right now
21:39.39pagefaultthe termination points or the bandwidth?
21:39.46file[laptop]interfacing with the regular phone network
21:40.02file[laptop]if you went pure VoIP, it's dirt cheap
21:40.15pagefaultit can only get cheaper as codecs get better
21:40.32file[laptop]cheaper on bandwidth, more expensive on 'da CPU
21:40.39pagefaultbut CPUs get cheaper too
21:41.24pagefaultI want to make free phone calls to wherever I want
21:41.25pagefault:)
21:41.31file[laptop]hehe
21:41.48file[laptop]"You can make free calls to everywhere in the world!*)
21:41.48pagefaultI really hope that wireless gets cheaper
21:41.58file[laptop](*: Only to customers that use this same service.)
21:42.03pagefaulthahaha
21:42.04pagefaultcomwave
21:42.20pagefaultthey make a huge deal about free calls
21:42.27pagefaultbut thats only to other people that use the same service
21:42.30pagefaultand even then whats the point
21:42.32file[laptop]indeed
21:42.43pagefaultif you both have voip just use something like skype or whatever
21:42.48pagefaultand screw them all together
21:43.12pagefaultit's goofy
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21:45.44gonkulatoryep
21:45.45gonkulatorno doubt
21:53.38kergothSophie197: that could be.  depression affects different people in different ways, naturally.  for me, it tends to cause motivational problems.  they prescribed the stuff that can deal with that.  not saying thats the case for him, but..
21:54.46filekergoth: is it effective for you, or are you building up an immunity?
21:55.27kergothi havent been on it very long yet
21:55.33kergothlast time i was on it, it worked very well
21:55.37filegood
21:55.50gonkulatoroh, an orchid
21:57.28gonkulatorheh
21:57.35gonkulatorhow are you doing there orchid?
21:57.56fileyou and I, rock my heart!
21:58.56orchidgonkulator: I'm peachy these days
22:00.57gonkulatorthats good to hear
22:01.47orchidstuff?!
22:03.02pagefaultwhat is a cheap provider of voip
22:03.11filepagefault: for what?
22:03.23pagefaultwell I need it for data
22:03.31pagefaultfor faxes
22:03.35fileha good luck
22:03.42pagefaultmost don't do data?
22:03.48filefax+voip=bad
22:03.50pagefaultlike I want to use a modem over it
22:03.59fileyeah... no
22:04.04pagefaultI thought it could use it
22:04.09filenot really
22:04.20gonkulatororchid: I'm giving a talk tonight about vocations :)
22:04.43gonkulatorand I am in the mountains, and it is snowing
22:05.13gonkulatorwhich means I will be doing my first snow-driving of the season today
22:05.13orchidsnowing :-\
22:06.23gonkulatoryeah, fun stuff
22:07.04orchidI imagine then public speaking dosent faze you?
22:07.18orchid~spell faze
22:07.27filephase
22:07.36orchidyeah thats what I was thinking
22:07.37gonkulatorpublic speaking in general isn't my thing
22:07.58fileI like talking to people in a small group (5) about something I'm passionate about
22:08.02gonkulatorbut speaking about the stuff I love... thats easy, even in front of lots of people :)
22:08.23gonkulatorbesides, this isn't a lot of people
22:08.32gonkulatorits only going to be 60-100
22:08.41orchideek
22:11.06gonkulatororchid: do you dislike public speaking?
22:14.43filepagefault: tigerdirect has some nifty deals on
22:16.11filehrm
22:16.25fileI think it's time to give VMware a go
22:16.36ChipX86yay
22:16.36pagefaultyou should install ESX server
22:16.39pagefaultand use that instead of a UML
22:16.40pagefault:)
22:16.43ChipX86yep
22:16.48filepagefault: ...right :P
22:16.51fileI'll get right on that
22:16.51pagefaultwhat
22:16.55pagefaultwell you could also use xen
22:17.01fileyeah I could use Xen
22:17.01ChipX86noooo
22:17.02pagefaultbut then you would probably be ejected by this channel
22:17.06ChipX86yep
22:17.11fileI just need workstation right now :)
22:17.26pagefaultit's stupid that Xen says it's faster than vmware though
22:17.32pagefaultit's not even the same technology
22:17.37orchidgonkulator: ive always avoided it
22:17.46pagefaultit's using linux trickery
22:17.48pagefault:)
22:17.54ChipX86pagefault: they compare to WS3
22:17.54pagefaultit can't run other OSes
22:17.57pagefaultbut even then ChipX86
22:18.00pagefaultit's not the same kind of VM
22:18.02ChipX86want to know what's funny?
22:18.21ChipX86they support VT and claim we can't (we had support before them, and had a lot of input into VT itself)
22:18.28ChipX86and even with them on VT vs us without, we're faster
22:18.28pagefaultVT?
22:18.38ChipX86Intel's virtualization additions to the chipset
22:18.46pagefaultah
22:18.49pagefaultah
22:18.49pagefaultneat
22:18.52pagefaultI wonder how that works
22:18.55pagefaultI should read up about it
22:18.59ChipX86not very well
22:19.03filehaha
22:19.05pagefaulthahaha
22:19.08ChipX86Xen claims we're now useless because VT lets them run Windows
22:19.18ChipX86but it doesn't virtualize IO or a bunch of other things
22:19.23pagefaultwell
22:19.25ChipX86they jsut don't tell people that :)
22:19.37file79.1MB? bah
22:19.41pagefaultwhat CPU's need is a CPU that lets you mask any IRQ on the system
22:19.51pagefaultthat way you can caputure device calls
22:19.54ChipX86file: we have to bundle gtk and all that
22:19.57pagefaultall through the hardware
22:20.11pagefaultthat way you wouldn't have to pass through stuff
22:20.16pagefaultand make virtual NIC cards and things
22:20.22pagefaultthe person could use the PC's hardware directly
22:20.28pagefaultbut not at the same time of course
22:20.33gonkulatororchid: heh, good to avoid it when possible :)
22:20.40gonkulatororchid: it does take a lot of energy out of me to do it
22:20.46pagefaultI should work at VMware
22:20.51pagefaultand go into the VM department
22:20.54pagefaultI love x86 stuff
22:21.09fileoh no
22:21.18ChipX86VMware rocks
22:21.28ChipX86I could get you an interview
22:21.36pagefaulthehe I haven't grautated yet
22:21.40gonkulatorChipX86: do you think I have the credentials to work at VMware?
22:21.40pagefaultbut maybe after I do I will consider it
22:21.57gonkulatorif I ever decided to leave the seminary
22:22.03pagefaultI don't know if they will like the idea i'm self taught though
22:22.03fileChipX86: stop stealing people!
22:22.10pagefaultlike all the assembly and whatnot I know
22:22.12pagefaultI all learned myself
22:22.43ChipX86gonkulator: dunno, what kind of stuff do you specialize in?
22:22.57ChipX86file: :)
22:23.07filenow, I wonder if networking is going to work
22:23.16ChipX86didn't even ask how much I'd make
22:23.25file$1!
22:23.27gonkulatorChipX86: prayer, preaching, team building, a little bit of Java
22:23.29gonkulator:)
22:23.36ChipX86gonkulator: none of which will be all that useful
22:23.37filedon't say the j word again
22:23.53purple_cowjavajavajavajava
22:23.58gonkulatorChipX86: I guess I'll stay in the seminary then :)
22:24.01pagefaultjbot!
22:24.18pagefault~emulate file
22:24.20jbotACTION poke poke poke poke
22:24.20filejbot: java?
22:24.22jboti heard java is at (Link: http://www.blackdown.org)http://www.blackdown.org or at (Link: http://www.javasoft.com)http://www.javasoft.com or at (Link: http://www.savaje.com)http://www.savaje.com or at (Link: http://www.pocketlinux.com)http://www.pocketlinux.com or at (Link: http://java.sun.com)http://java.sun.com or at http://www.insignia.com, or see the ...
22:24.22gonkulator~mulate gir
22:24.28gonkulatoroops
22:24.31filebah no witty remarks
22:24.34pagefault~emulate pagefault
22:24.35gonkulator~emulate gir
22:24.37jbotdo a little dance!
22:24.43pagefault~snack
22:24.44jbotACTION snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P
22:24.57pagefault~poke
22:25.01gonkulatorand on that note, its time for me to go
22:25.05gonkulatorlater everyone
22:25.08pagefaulthaha
22:25.11pagefaultcya
22:25.15gonkulatordbyu!
22:25.23pagefaulthehe
22:25.32pagefaultremember when we used to get jbot to poke people
22:25.35pagefaultthat was a long time ago
22:25.39pagefaultand then we outlawed poking for a while
22:25.52pagefaultdamn
22:25.54pagefaulthow long have I been here
22:25.58gonkulator~rlart
22:26.02purple_cows/for a while//
22:26.07ChipX86:(
22:26.08pagefaultI forget how I got here
22:26.12pagefaultI think Diablo-D3 was being silly
22:26.20pagefaultand someone said "we have commentary on diablo-d3 in #tacobeam"
22:26.24pagefaultand from then on I joined
22:26.32filewe're a bad influence on people.
22:26.35purple_cowpagefault: iirc, ChipX86 brought you
22:26.42purple_cowi don't remember how ChipX86 got here though
22:27.07pagefaultdon't you guys find it funny you log on every day
22:27.09pagefaultand talk here
22:27.20gonkulatorpurple_cow: nice topic photo
22:27.37pagefaultooh
22:27.38pagefaultlink
22:28.26ChipX86purple_cow: TD I think
22:28.46fileunsolved mysteries... haha I remember this show from long ago
22:29.00pagefaulthehe
22:29.03pagefaultI hated that show when I was little
22:29.06pagefaultit gave me nightmares
22:29.19pagefaulthehe
22:29.21pagefaultthe guy on it
22:29.23pagefaulthe was creepy
22:29.30fileyay installing VMware!
22:29.32pagefaulthehe
22:29.35pagefaultthe creepy guy was odd
22:29.37pagefaultI didn't like that
22:29.39pagefaultwhat
22:29.39fileand a part of me dies inside.
22:29.44pagefaultnoooo file
22:29.53purple_cowwhy dies?
22:30.00pagefaultI am kinda wanting a powerbook for my next laptop
22:30.05pagefaultafter seeing file's it really made me want on
22:30.06pagefaultone
22:30.36pagefaultbut I think my friend will freak out
22:30.37pagefaultif I buy a mac
22:30.40file:D
22:30.43pagefaulthe is anti-mac
22:30.43ChipX86run OS X in VMware :)
22:30.46ChipX86but I didn't tell you that at all
22:30.50fileChipX86: shhhhhh!
22:30.54fileI'll tell on you!
22:30.56pagefaultChipX86, I did
22:31.00pagefaultit ran like crap :)
22:31.03pagefaultnot vmware's fault though
22:31.07file"Christian Hammond told me all about running OS X in VMware"
22:31.17pagefaultI think it needed native video drivers
22:31.39pagefaultzsnes needs to be ported to it
22:31.47pagefaultyou don't know how many e-mails I get each day
22:31.50pagefaultwhen are you porting it to os x
22:32.18ChipX86pagefault: it works really well on our boxes with the VESA drivers
22:32.20ChipX86surprisingly so
22:32.29pagefaultit ran pretty slow for me
22:32.34pagefaultI wasn't sure why
22:32.43pagefaultI ran it on a laptop
22:32.43numistit ran pretty slow here too, but I'm also using ws beta
22:32.48pagefaultso maybe thats why
22:32.51ChipX86yeah, the betas are slower
22:32.54ChipX86debugging symbols
22:32.57numistyep
22:32.58ChipX86asserts
22:32.59ChipX86etc
22:33.08ChipX86pagefault: also, you may not have set the correct guest OS type and all that
22:33.15ChipX86the original image that was floating around was not optimized well
22:33.17pagefaultdoes that really affect things?
22:33.20ChipX86yes
22:33.20pagefaultif I tell it what OS I am using
22:33.22ChipX86yeah
22:33.27ChipX86it enables certain optimizations
22:33.27pagefaultoh
22:33.30pagefaultI didn't know that
22:33.35pagefaultI thought it was all for newbs
22:33.38pagefaultin creating a profile
22:33.44ChipX86and in the case of OS X, works around some weird stuff that Darwin tries to do with the timer
22:33.54pagefaultthats interesting to know
22:34.00pagefaultI need to change some stuff then
22:34.01pagefaultheh
22:34.03ChipX86:)
22:34.28pagefaultfor the linux does it matter
22:34.32ChipX86not really
22:34.47pagefaultyeah I was wondering thaty
22:34.49pagefaulterr that
22:34.55pagefaultthat you had 2 distros
22:34.58pagefaultand then "other"
22:35.15pagefaulti'm like do I need this distro to get optimium performance or what
22:35.16ChipX86we have more than two
22:35.22pagefaultwell I don't remember the names
22:35.25pagefaultbut I know ubuntu wasn't there :)
22:35.28ChipX86in the case of the distro, it's tools-related
22:35.30ChipX86it is in 5.5
22:35.36pagefaultwell ok then
22:35.38ChipX86you really should be using 5.5
22:35.40pagefaultI am still using 5.0
22:35.42ChipX86it's far better than 5.0
22:35.48pagefaultspeed wise?
22:35.49ChipX86tons of bug fixes
22:36.07ChipX86well the beta may be a little slower, but release, yeah, same if not faster in areas
22:36.12ChipX86I know there were a ton of optimizations made
22:36.19ChipX86it also supports 64-bit guests on 64-bit hosts and also SMP
22:36.26numisttry player :)
22:36.27ChipX86SMP works if you have an SMP box or HT
22:36.37ChipX86you can't have player and WS installed at the same time
22:36.39pagefaulthaha
22:36.42pagefaultI know exactly how you feel
22:36.44ChipX86though WS 5.5 bundles the player
22:36.52pagefaultwhen people come looking for help in #zsnes
22:36.56pagefaultand they are using some really old version
22:36.59pagefaultwhich I know has tons of bugs
22:37.15pagefaultand their problems would be fixed if they upgraded
22:38.45pagefaultfile
22:38.53pagefaultyou said you could do a native UML or something?
22:38.55pagefaultI had a choice
22:40.55filea UML, or just on the box as a regular account
22:43.34pagefaultoh
22:43.36pagefaultI like UML
22:43.50filewell it's already done so, yeah :)
22:43.51pagefaultI like being root basically :)
22:44.09pagefaultthanks for keeping that going
22:44.16pagefaultdespite my erratic payment play
22:44.17fileaye
22:44.18pagefaulterr plan
22:44.37pagefaulti'll send some more money soon
22:44.46filemeh no rush
22:44.54pagefaulthehe
22:45.00pagefaultwell I don't want to be a freeloader
22:45.07pagefaultpeople shell out for stuff like UMLs
22:45.08filepfft
22:45.24pagefaultit's really fun having it though
22:45.27pagefaultmy friends are all like
22:45.31pagefaulthow the hell did you get that for free
22:45.40pagefaultor
22:45.43pagefaultwow you really know some nice people
22:46.24filedid you change the config for your proxy btw? it tried to bind to your old IP
22:46.30pagefaultoh
22:46.31pagefaultI need to fix that
22:46.34pagefaultand yes
22:46.37pagefaultit's secure
22:46.41filehehe
22:46.48pagefaulthave to login to use it :)
22:47.08pagefaultI use that to get around the firewall at university
22:47.11pagefaultwith sockscap for windows
22:48.05fileyay vmware is installed
22:48.28pagefaultfile has installed the evil
22:48.46pagefaulthehe
22:48.53pagefaultyour server or workstation?
22:49.00fileworkstation
22:51.29fileOpenBSD likes it.
22:52.02pagefaultah interesting
22:52.07pagefaultwhat do you use your mac mini for?
22:52.29filemusic mostly
22:52.39fileor if I'm working on something and need to look up stuff
22:54.42pagefaultinteresting
22:55.46pagefaultok
22:55.48pagefaultit's official
22:55.52pagefaultgcc is awful at bit rotations
22:56.16pagefaultwe just debugged the output from gcc even with O3
22:56.21pagefaultand it takes it 10 cycles to do one rotate
22:56.34pagefaultwhen it could have done it in 2
22:59.02filesmrt
23:00.10pagefaultso are you a asterisk developer now
23:01.09pagefaultwow
23:01.12pagefaultthe asterisk.org page is nice now
23:01.13filesweet
23:01.13numistkergoth: poke
23:01.16filenetworking is working!
23:01.18pagefaultit's not text anymore
23:01.23pagefaultvmware just works (tm)
23:01.25filepagefault: correct
23:01.43pagefaultdid you give up on your hosting business
23:01.43pagefault:)
23:01.49filehehe
23:02.29filethis OpenBSD install is going well
23:02.30pagefaultok
23:02.31pagefaulthehe
23:02.47pagefaultit's easy to install
23:03.38pagefaultexport PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub
23:03.46pagefaultexport PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.7/packages
23:03.48pagefaulthehe
23:03.50filepagefault: gigabit switches from tigerdirect = cheap
23:03.57pagefaultuse that to install stuff on demand like debian
23:04.07pagefaultthen you can do pkg_add irssi
23:04.15pagefaultand it downloads automatically
23:04.44pagefaultI don't have a gigabit card in my systems though
23:04.59pagefaulthehe
23:05.02pagefaultI am using onboard
23:05.11filemy onboard on the Dell and Powerbook is gigabit :)
23:05.19pagefaultwell pfft
23:05.33fileoh great, download stalled
23:06.19pagefaultaliant rules
23:06.45filetheir service agreement with Telus does rule, cause it gets me free 1X internet access :P
23:06.57pagefaulthehe
23:07.00pagefaultI wonder if bell does that
23:07.15pagefaulthow did you get 1x free
23:07.37filenot telling :P
23:07.42pagefaultcome on
23:07.53pagefaultit's like $100 for 10mb
23:07.57pagefaulthow did you get it FREE
23:08.18filein Aliant territory it uses Aliant's system for access
23:08.35filein order to get back to Telus I *think* they have to give out a public IP on every service
23:08.44filebe it browser on phone, 1X regular, whatever
23:08.47pagefaultit's like $100 for 10mb
23:08.49pagefaulthow did you get it FREE
23:08.50pagefaultrtt
23:08.53pagefaulterr
23:08.54pagefaultnm
23:08.57pagefaultwow
23:09.07pagefaultfile you are lucky
23:09.23filehehe
23:09.39pagefaultdo you use your phone or do you have a card?
23:09.58filephone
23:10.06pagefaultah
23:10.14pagefaultwhat software do you use for that
23:10.24fileInternet Connect in OSX? ;)
23:10.31pagefaultit supports cell phones?
23:10.35filebluetooth.
23:10.39pagefaultoh
23:10.51pagefaultI can do with my phone
23:10.56pagefaultbut I have to get some software
23:11.03pagefaultI bought my cable off ebay
23:11.06fileyour evil weird phone?
23:11.15pagefaultyeah
23:11.20pagefaultbell wanted like $50 for a cable
23:11.23pagefaultI got it for $7
23:11.31fileyour phone is *so* cheap
23:11.37pagefaultyeah it is
23:11.50pagefaultit's all I wanted to spend on a phone :)
23:12.15pagefaultbut I can interface with it with the driver I made for bitpim
23:12.18pagefaultand download and upload stuff
23:12.26fileand fry it?
23:12.31pagefaultnah
23:12.40pagefaulthehe
23:12.43pagefaultI put my own ringtones on it
23:17.17fileyay OpenBSD is installed
23:19.02fileuh this is weird
23:19.10pagefaultwhat
23:19.13pagefaultI am an expert on human
23:19.15pagefaultI mean
23:19.18pagefaulthumans
23:19.21pagefaultand OpenBSD :)
23:19.32fileAliant changed their routing
23:19.45fileoh this is smart
23:19.46pagefaulttin foil hat?
23:19.58filemy local loop is being routed through... Saint John!
23:20.03pagefaulthehe
23:20.11pagefaultmine goes to ottawa a lot
23:21.23pagefaultI think we are on the same network
23:21.32pagefaultie if I ping you it doesn't go off onto the internet
23:21.36pagefaultit says on bell/aliant's network
23:21.41fileprobably
23:21.43pagefaultstays I mean
23:31.03kergoth~emulate chris
23:31.08jbotThere's this game where you put in a dollar and you win four quarters. I win every time!
23:34.35pagefaultI want some
23:34.44file[laptop]pagefault: then go get some!
23:34.53pagefaultI have pizza coming
23:35.07file[laptop]ah, then eat your pizza
23:37.22file[laptop]where is the pizza coming from?
23:37.55pagefaultit's mystery pizza
23:37.56pagefaultI will find out
23:37.59file[laptop]ooh
23:42.30kergoth~emulate chris
23:42.35jbotIf I had a hole in my throat, I'd put pennies in it
23:45.43kergothbooored
23:46.58numistkergoth: poke
23:47.26kergothi cant find the ubermovie guide.  going to have to get set up to connect to it, which i've never done from linux
23:47.39numist:/
23:47.44kergothif you get onto the ubernet training hub, you can get it there, pretty sure.
23:47.53numistand also, I didnt see any info on getting onto the training hub
23:47.53kergothubernet users dont need a sponsor to get into ubermovie.
23:47.56kergoththe guide is there
23:48.11kergothhold on then, give me a minute and i'll go find it on their web site for you
23:50.54file[laptop]kurg blah I'm going to sleep early tonight
23:52.44*** join/#tacobeam cwisty (n=Christy@pool-68-239-121-175.res.east.verizon.net)
23:54.17Veightmeh
23:54.24Veighttired and feel like crap im going to bed
23:54.24Veightlater
23:54.28file[laptop]bye Veight
23:55.29Sophie197I want to see purplecow's blog where he has pictures of his food and stuff
23:55.44Sophie197what's the address of it?
23:55.54file[laptop]Sophie197: planet tacobeam is good
23:55.58file[laptop]http://planet.tacobeam.com/
23:56.11file[laptop]has the link to his blog, he's David...
23:57.22kergoththose fuckheads
23:57.29kergothSophie197: tell the ubernet folks to make the site stop sucking
23:57.55kergothSophie197: 1) no way to reset a pass on an old account, 2) no info on submitting the logs of your rips to get access, 3) forums have links to the latest post, yet that post doesnt exist, etc etc
23:58.16kergothnumist: sorry man, didnt realize they made the site suck. the old one at least had everything you needed, even if it wasnt pretty
23:59.06kergothSophie197: the faqs area of the forum says it has 695 topics.  which is close, i suppose, since there's a grand total of 4.
23:59.21numistkergoth: so what's the plan?

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