00:04.02 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9256 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: |
00:04.02 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: After playing with it a bit, this tooltip idea wasn't as useful as I'd hoped. |
00:04.03 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: DELETED!! |
00:04.32 | darth_mall | wow... Aerosmith rocks so hard in their old age that they're doing Target commercials |
00:09.02 | purple_cow | go me! |
00:09.47 | CIA-9 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1788 10mck/ (5 files in 3 dirs): yay states status icons |
00:10.24 | darth_mall | purple_cow: did you rock their socks off? |
00:10.36 | purple_cow | i did |
00:10.38 | scanlime | =D |
00:10.40 | scanlime | yay! |
00:10.49 | scanlime | purple_cow: you'll love Dinah's |
00:11.12 | scanlime | and I can give you a ride to/from the airport if you don't want to just expense a taxi |
00:11.16 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: awesome :) |
00:11.24 | ChipX86 | congrats |
00:12.32 | numist | scanlime: dont answer that, its a trap |
00:12.53 | darth_mall | purple_cow: they're flyin' you out? |
00:13.00 | purple_cow | probably? |
00:13.05 | scanlime | numist: huh? |
00:13.10 | numist | scanlime: #vmware :) |
00:13.17 | purple_cow | like any interview, it ended with "we'll be in contact with you soon" |
00:13.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: could have ended with "Sorry, but any further attempt to contact VMware will be met with a court order" |
00:14.05 | purple_cow | scanlime: true |
00:14.11 | purple_cow | man i'm loving this osd plugin |
00:14.47 | numist | someone's telling ChipX86 how things are in vmware, thats worth rolling another spliff |
00:16.16 | purple_cow | he seemed pretty satisfied after talking to me |
00:16.30 | purple_cow | and surprised at how succinctly i answered his programming question |
00:19.11 | ChipX86 | it was philip, right? |
00:19.42 | scanlime | which programming question was it? :) |
00:20.32 | purple_cow | ChipX86: right |
00:20.38 | scanlime | fun-list makes me feel inadequate |
00:20.45 | purple_cow | scanlime: linked list thing |
00:21.02 | scanlime | 700 MHz is a 'really old' computer, and there's a guy looking to upgrade his P4 2.4 GHz... |
00:21.07 | scanlime | purple_cow: ah, yep |
00:21.39 | numist | something makes micah feel inadequate?! 0_o |
00:21.50 | numist | oh, that kind of inadequate |
00:21.55 | scanlime | heh |
00:22.11 | numist | its not the clock speed that matters, its the code you run on it |
00:23.11 | scanlime | heh :) |
00:23.20 | scanlime | eventually I might upgrade... |
00:23.28 | scanlime | when I get tired of 192MB of RAM and 700 MHz... |
00:24.02 | purple_cow | scanlime: x40? :) |
00:24.03 | numist | I'd say that shouldnt take long, but you've already exceeded the time I expect |
00:24.36 | ChipX86 | scanlime: that was on video-games, not fun-list, right? |
00:24.39 | scanlime | numist, purple_cow: yes |
00:24.47 | scanlime | ChipX86: oh, I guess it was |
00:25.24 | ChipX86 | talking in private to TreMobyl now |
00:25.27 | ChipX86 | I know him from #gnome-hackers |
00:25.39 | ChipX86 | he just isn't grasping how big a problem it is |
00:25.41 | hardwire | http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS3139003780.html |
00:25.47 | hardwire | that would be a very fun hacking project |
00:25.51 | ChipX86 | his mindset is very much in the "today's distros" |
00:26.04 | numist | :) |
00:35.24 | ChipX86 | this day is going by fast |
00:36.34 | numist | yeah.... unproductive too... I'm sick now, it's official |
00:36.41 | ChipX86 | :( |
00:36.44 | ChipX86 | I'm fighting it still |
00:36.46 | numist | :( |
00:36.57 | numist | woke up with a sore throat, and its progressing awful fast |
00:37.13 | ChipX86 | http://abock.org/blog/133 |
00:37.18 | ChipX86 | isn't there an, erm, heat problem with that? |
00:39.22 | numist | ChipX86: broken |
00:39.31 | numist | 404 :( |
00:39.34 | ChipX86 | oh |
00:39.36 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah |
00:39.42 | ChipX86 | http://abock.org//index.php?gadget=Blog&action=SingleView&id=133 |
00:39.58 | numist | oh that.. yeah there has to be a problem with that |
00:40.10 | ChipX86 | heh so Alex came in and just wandered around. I asked what's up. "Just thinking..." "About what?" "Thinking about porn." |
00:40.12 | purple_cow | it's ok running like that for a while |
00:40.25 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, there was some discussion on the subject in #gnome-hackers |
00:40.31 | ChipX86 | yeah |
00:40.33 | numist | ? |
00:40.36 | ChipX86 | it was just funny :) |
00:40.39 | numist | nice |
00:42.45 | numist | oww |
00:42.55 | numist | don't eat chocolate if you have a sore throat. it doesnt help :/ |
00:43.13 | purple_cow | heh |
00:43.24 | numist | :( |
00:46.31 | darth_mall | I love Daniel's e-mail |
00:46.36 | darth_mall | they're always so awesome |
00:47.32 | purple_cow | darth_mall: what do you think? |
00:47.38 | purple_cow | should we give him a serious roll this time? |
00:47.57 | scanlime | mmm, I could stand to eat a serious roll... |
00:48.00 | darth_mall | if he bothers to show up for meetings and contribute work, I don't really care |
00:48.37 | darth_mall | the only reason he didn't get to do anything on the 3 previous papers was because he couldn't be bothered to show up for the meetings or anything |
00:48.53 | darth_mall | but I'm not going to hold his hand through it |
00:49.29 | purple_cow | well, arguably, the only paper meeting we had that he didn't come to was the architecture/UI one |
00:49.32 | purple_cow | since we've only had 2 |
00:49.43 | purple_cow | but he's not very proactive in asking how he can help |
00:50.45 | darth_mall | well, I did send out an e-mail about meeting for the Requirements Spec and no one responded |
00:51.00 | purple_cow | you did? |
00:51.01 | darth_mall | you were the only one I had any contact with about that paper because of IRC |
00:51.03 | darth_mall | yeah |
00:51.37 | purple_cow | oh, maybe you did |
00:51.46 | purple_cow | i'm tempted to invite him to irc, but i think that would just piss me off |
00:52.12 | darth_mall | cuz then I can't vent my frustrations with him here |
00:52.21 | purple_cow | well, even if we made a #smrt and didn't tell him about here |
00:52.29 | purple_cow | i think i'd just get angry holding his hand through using an irc client |
00:52.41 | darth_mall | like today, how he came up to me and asked me again about rmiregistry |
00:52.57 | purple_cow | hahaha |
00:54.53 | darth_mall | hmm... |
00:55.12 | darth_mall | purple_cow: the order of the bones in the AMC files doesn't matter, does it? |
00:55.22 | purple_cow | no |
00:55.33 | darth_mall | didn't think so |
00:55.34 | purple_cow | spec says any order, so long as that order is consistent throughout the file |
00:57.35 | purple_cow | argh |
00:57.43 | purple_cow | the MSDNAA ISO downloader is a windows app |
00:57.43 | purple_cow | >< |
00:57.54 | darth_mall | yay |
00:58.16 | purple_cow | may have to have you do it next time you're around |
00:58.47 | purple_cow | wine wants some activeX control |
00:59.10 | scanlime | no windows VM handy? |
01:00.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: no, if i had that, i wouldn't need a windows iso |
01:00.24 | scanlime | oh |
01:01.10 | ChipX86 | don't fight! Practice peace and love |
01:01.39 | numist | love is good, peace is for the birds |
01:01.43 | scanlime | Loaded decoder module 'Bluetooth' |
01:01.43 | scanlime | Installing decoder VUsbTools.Decoders.Bluetooth.ControlDecoder |
01:01.43 | scanlime | Installing decoder VUsbTools.Decoders.Bluetooth.EventDecoder |
01:01.45 | scanlime | mwahaha |
01:02.16 | ChipX86 | scanlime: oh, I wanted to ask you about bluetooth |
01:02.20 | scanlime | nooooooooo |
01:02.25 | scanlime | I don't do bluetooth! never touch the stuff |
01:02.29 | ChipX86 | if I have a list of bluetooth phones in the area, is there a way of getting those phone numbers? |
01:02.50 | scanlime | I think there's an AT command you can use to get the phone's number, but you'd need it to accept a connection first |
01:02.57 | ChipX86 | damn |
01:03.20 | scanlime | there isn't much you can do with the phone itself without actually opening a bluetooth channel |
01:03.28 | ChipX86 | there goes that idea for presence |
01:03.35 | darth_mall | hmm... yeah... now I'm getting a segfault reading in the AMC file too... |
01:03.36 | darth_mall | weird |
01:03.40 | scanlime | well |
01:03.50 | scanlime | ChipX86: you can get the BD-addr of nearby devices... |
01:04.02 | scanlime | so if you could correlate that with people you could get a list of nearby people |
01:04.07 | ChipX86 | I was hoping to look up the phone numbers, cross-reference with the addressbook, and use that |
01:04.36 | scanlime | hopefully that isn't possible.. would be a bit of a privacy problem :) |
01:04.44 | ChipX86 | screw privacy |
01:04.51 | ChipX86 | I want presence data, damnit! |
01:05.32 | scanlime | well, there's always the BD-addres.. but then, a lot of people disable that too |
01:06.04 | ChipX86 | I want to head back to my old college, name my 770 "Software Upgrade" and connect to some random person's phone |
01:06.08 | ChipX86 | see if they accept it |
01:06.21 | scanlime | hehe |
01:06.27 | numist | hah |
01:06.27 | ChipX86 | I bet someone would :) |
01:07.15 | scanlime | well, start spewing ATDT<your-phone-number-here> at people, and see if you get any calls |
01:08.43 | numist | I just realized that next quarter I'm only going to be taking classes that I've taken before already :( |
01:08.49 | ChipX86 | :( |
01:09.04 | numist | damn thats demoralizing |
01:09.13 | ChipX86 | how did that happen? |
01:09.56 | numist | lets see.. it probably started with the part where I failed out of school |
01:10.07 | numist | so theres some ground to catch up on there |
01:11.09 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (4 files in 3 dirs): let images pass back real bpp so the image binder can support 1 and 2 bit textures |
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01:23.24 | scanlime | damn you Ellisys, and your slow software |
01:23.37 | scanlime | we've been so tempted to just reverse engineer the protocol these hardware analyzers use |
01:23.43 | scanlime | so we don't even have to deal with their slow XML export |
01:24.39 | hardwire | xdmx rocks my socks |
01:31.27 | hardwire | I can't wait for dynamic xinerama |
01:31.27 | hardwire | heh |
01:40.25 | ChipX86 | weird... |
01:40.32 | ChipX86 | Foo *that = (Foo *)this; |
01:40.38 | ChipX86 | wonder what the logic was there |
01:41.13 | ChipX86 | I bet it made sense at the time, and then eventually everything moved to being this class and it became silly |
01:49.14 | pagefault | foobar |
01:49.14 | pagefault | ? |
01:52.26 | pagefault | bleh |
01:52.28 | pagefault | DS doesn't support WPA |
01:52.29 | pagefault | only WEP |
01:52.31 | pagefault | heh |
01:53.23 | hardwire | haha.. I have a three headed X display acrossed two machines. |
01:53.30 | hardwire | this is kinda fun.. slow but fun.. |
01:53.38 | hardwire | it even has a GL proxy.. how neat.. |
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02:10.25 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/ (worldDrawing.cpp worldRender.cpp): more UVs |
02:17.27 | scanlime | aww |
02:17.32 | scanlime | the new guy has a USB book on his desk |
02:26.19 | pagefault | yay pdf |
02:37.16 | scanlime | yay.. the SCSI spec is only 500 pages |
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03:00.36 | pagefault | hah |
03:00.41 | pagefault | for vmware? |
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03:04.42 | scanlime | pagefault: no, the SCSI spec for SCSI |
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03:22.41 | ChipX86 | someone needs to stop the Sci-Fi channel from creating a new bad movie every week |
03:24.04 | ChipX86 | oh hey, someone did die from Bird Flu. 42 people it seems |
03:25.57 | file[laptop] | that must look bad when you get to heaven :\ |
03:26.01 | file[laptop] | "What did you die of?" |
03:26.04 | file[laptop] | "Bird flu." |
03:26.09 | file[laptop] | "but you aren't a bird!" |
03:26.13 | file[laptop] | "I know, terrible luck that" |
03:26.18 | ChipX86 | hahha |
03:38.44 | numist | haha |
03:40.12 | scanlime | how does ubuntu expect you to modify the default services in each runlevel? |
03:40.34 | ChipX86 | update-rc.d |
03:42.00 | scanlime | hrm, kinda klukly compared to gentoo, but it works |
03:49.47 | scanlime | bleh, xen commit messages on CIA are so useless |
03:50.01 | scanlime | if they *have* to use colortext, you'd think they could at least give a filename or something |
03:50.12 | scanlime | when I hook vmware up to CIA, we'll have high-quality messages >:) |
03:55.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
03:58.47 | scanlime | I think one of the first things I'll do with CIA after I get rid of MySQL, is install it on my box at work |
03:59.04 | scanlime | make a #commits for irc.eng |
03:59.25 | ChipX86 | yay! |
03:59.37 | scanlime | I've got a lot on my plate for this backend redesign though |
03:59.57 | scanlime | first things I'm tackling are new file formats to improve both efficiency and capabilities.. but I have some bigger problems to solve |
04:00.32 | scanlime | I'm pondering a new way of representing rulesets internally that should improve efficiency, and make it much easier to provide sane solutions to author collisions and spam prevention |
04:00.57 | scanlime | once rulesets themselves become more light-weight objects, it would be concievable that every single target in CIA's stats space would have its own small ruleset |
04:01.10 | scanlime | that'd fix the huge mess I have right now with stats:// URIs |
04:01.45 | scanlime | I'd like to completely do away with the central ruleset database |
04:24.32 | scanlime | numist: you aren't 21 yet? |
04:26.03 | numist | scanlime: ask me again soon |
04:26.11 | numist | in 10 days, even |
04:26.41 | scanlime | I just didn't realize you were younger than me ;) |
04:26.50 | numist | always have been :) |
04:26.52 | scanlime | nobody's younger than me around here... |
04:27.03 | numist | I know exactly how you feel there |
04:27.11 | numist | I was always a year ahead n stuff. |
04:27.14 | numist | well, until now, of course |
04:27.15 | scanlime | nod |
04:27.19 | purple_cow | go me! |
04:27.26 | scanlime | well, you shall soon join the ranks of the legally drunk ;) |
04:27.37 | numist | hope I'm healthy by then... |
04:27.46 | scanlime | sick? |
04:27.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: interview? |
04:27.57 | purple_cow | yep :) |
04:28.01 | scanlime | nice! when? |
04:28.05 | purple_cow | dunno yet |
04:28.21 | scanlime | I think the biggest question at this point is whether you'll accept ;) |
04:28.22 | purple_cow | got a call while i was quite literally fighting, and didn't get the message until after |
04:28.25 | numist | wtg purple_cow |
04:28.26 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah... |
04:29.16 | purple_cow | plus i was guessing the call was my mom asking how the phone dealy went, so i didn't stop to answer it |
04:37.05 | purple_cow | i'm still laughing at part of today's interview |
04:37.45 | purple_cow | "have you used the gnome canvas before?" "i've tried it for a few things, and it's always ended up being too much of a pain" "yeah, that's been our experience too" |
04:39.31 | ChipX86 | :) |
04:40.27 | kergoth | looks like i'm flying out to raleigh, nc for an interview :) |
04:40.41 | kergoth | (gf is in town, not going to be on irc much) |
04:46.05 | purple_cow | http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/07/japanese_gameshow_li.html |
04:47.55 | purple_cow | those crazy japanese |
04:52.41 | numist | I better not be on irc at all from the 19th to the 27th |
04:53.23 | gonkulator | ROFLMAO |
04:53.43 | purple_cow | make sure you watch the video |
04:53.45 | purple_cow | it's hilarious |
04:55.54 | scanlime | does that video have sound? |
04:57.13 | purple_cow | i don't know. google video doesn't like to play sound on my laptop |
04:57.21 | purple_cow | and my desktop's out of commission right now |
04:57.29 | purple_cow | it's not choppy though |
04:57.54 | scanlime | ah.. works fine if I make the window smaller and let it pre-buffer |
04:58.08 | scanlime | I wonder what the big santa in the background is for, and why he's sticking his tongue out |
05:00.26 | purple_cow | big santa? /me rewatches |
05:00.29 | purple_cow | oh |
05:00.30 | purple_cow | hahaha |
05:00.30 | purple_cow | dunno |
05:11.06 | purple_cow | uh oh, looks like zak|poof is bored |
05:11.20 | scanlime | what's she up to now? |
05:11.31 | scanlime | ah, more quizzes |
05:11.56 | file[laptop] | Right Handed or Left Handed:yes |
05:11.59 | file[laptop] | that's classic... |
05:12.24 | lurgy | yay, i have battleship potemkin |
05:15.56 | purple_cow | yay |
05:15.58 | purple_cow | we should watch it |
05:17.55 | lurgy | that we should |
05:18.08 | lurgy | though i dunno if i could stomach sitting and watching stuff right now |
05:18.36 | lurgy | that damn dress rehearsal went on forever |
05:19.00 | file[laptop] | yay free passes to stuff |
05:19.12 | lurgy | and subtitles require a small degree of thought which i'm not capable of right now |
05:19.15 | lurgy | ^_^ |
05:19.20 | lurgy | what about tomorrow night after teh concert? |
05:19.36 | lurgy | since you need to go anyways for convo |
05:20.12 | purple_cow | lurgy: sure |
05:20.51 | lurgy | yay |
05:20.56 | lurgy | darth_mall should come too |
05:20.58 | lurgy | cuz why not |
05:21.14 | lurgy | you know it's good |
05:21.18 | lurgy | cuz it's a prequel to battleship galactica |
05:21.24 | purple_cow | haha |
05:21.39 | darth_mall | heh... purple_cow, you're doing convo? |
05:21.50 | purple_cow | of course! |
05:22.02 | purple_cow | i'm a music major, and i'm also lazy |
05:24.10 | lurgy | hehe |
05:24.55 | purple_cow | if i weren't lazy, i'd have finished 2 years ago |
05:28.02 | scanlime | hmph |
05:28.09 | scanlime | Imaging's PNG support doesn't use libpng |
05:28.16 | scanlime | it's a pure-python implementation |
05:28.55 | ChipX86 | ok, need people in bzflag! :) |
05:29.16 | scanlime | ChipX86: sure, just let me warm up the vacuum tubes in my video card :P |
05:30.22 | purple_cow | scanlime: oww |
05:30.46 | lurgy | ChipX86: people, you say |
05:30.50 | lurgy | hehe |
05:30.50 | purple_cow | ChipX86: lemme try on my TV! |
05:31.04 | lurgy | the fact that Civ IV's scripting is all done in python makes me happy |
05:31.08 | numist | where can I get an internal network card for my lappy? |
05:31.16 | numist | this one just made my system BSOD for the LAST TIME |
05:31.18 | numist | >:( |
05:32.20 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/ (Win32/winView.cpp worldDrawing.cpp): texture drawing of a classic box (as accurate to bzflag as I could make it ) |
05:36.09 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: sarcasm, or are you going to join? :) |
05:36.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: i'm emerging it on fembot right now |
05:36.19 | ChipX86 | neat |
05:36.33 | ChipX86 | it's at the bzflag.secretplace.something on the first page of the listings. Blue team |
05:38.08 | purple_cow | righto |
05:38.11 | purple_cow | it'll be a few more minutes |
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06:26.31 | scanlime | fucking car alarm |
06:39.37 | scanlime | DAMNIT |
06:39.40 | scanlime | the same car alarm again |
06:39.51 | scanlime | ##@$#@ |
06:39.58 | scanlime | why are these stupid things still legal? |
06:42.23 | scanlime | hah |
06:42.30 | scanlime | it keeps changing pitch and making this weird 'bong' sound |
06:42.35 | scanlime | like someone's trying to break it :P |
06:51.25 | purple_cow | that was the most difficult game of bzflag i've played in my entire life |
06:51.46 | ChipX86 | High Karate Kitty is vicious |
06:52.07 | ChipX86 | she's this mother who must neglect her kids or something given that every single time I've played she's been on there with a score over 60 |
06:52.33 | ChipX86 | or do you mean because Jamie and I suck so much? |
06:53.19 | purple_cow | i mean sitting on my floor, using my laptop for a keyboard, with a display device that doesn't let me see squat |
06:53.26 | ChipX86 | oh. :( |
06:53.29 | scanlime | sigh.. I've resorted to a giant comment block full of ascii art to explain fidtool's file format |
06:53.43 | purple_cow | haha |
06:55.50 | purple_cow | lemme transfer the picture i just took |
06:55.52 | purple_cow | it's funny |
06:57.30 | ChipX86 | spatial tree-view nautilus is very buggy |
06:59.01 | purple_cow | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/davids/IMG_0003 |
06:59.15 | purple_cow | that piece of wood is on top of a couple stacks of textbooks :P |
07:00.55 | scanlime | hehe |
07:08.57 | numist | man I feel horrible |
07:09.25 | scanlime | you should stop that, it's bad for your health |
07:11.26 | purple_cow | there's just something awesome about english folk songs with electric guitar and deep, rumbling bass |
07:19.52 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9257 10fidtool/_fidtool.c: Wrote 120 lines of comments (with ascii art) explaining how the FID data structure should work. It does not yet work like this. |
07:21.39 | purple_cow | scanlime: that's not so bad |
07:22.34 | ChipX86 | Azumanga Daioh is so random |
07:22.57 | scanlime | yeah |
07:24.10 | scanlime | it's kinda fun coming up with new data structures like this. You have to be really pedantic about how you define terms or you get the sorts of bugs fidtool is full of right now :P |
07:25.06 | scanlime | and you get to make up words like 'reverse-header' |
07:32.25 | hardwire | straaaaaange |
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07:48.36 | laodamas | Damn south africans with their non-standard fax machines and their nine hour time difference so I have to call at midnight to tell them how to enter a password into a self extracting archive GRRR |
07:49.13 | purple_cow | hah |
07:51.24 | laodamas | OTOH, I am glad that I only have to pay $0.07 minute to give them remote computer lessons |
07:51.47 | ChipX86 | and what do you charge? :) |
07:51.55 | laodamas | I refuse to email credit card or passport info in the clear, or even password protected ZIP |
07:52.49 | numist | whats good food to eat when your throat kills? |
07:52.54 | purple_cow | soup |
07:52.57 | numist | I'm moderately hungry :/ |
07:53.06 | numist | what type of soup |
07:53.15 | purple_cow | most kinds, really |
07:53.24 | ChipX86 | yes, soup |
07:53.25 | purple_cow | curry might be a little much |
07:53.29 | numist | hah, yes |
07:53.31 | laodamas | ChipX86: I am arranging my African Safari with a technology-challenged world-famous south african company |
07:53.50 | numist | hrm, I just had a thought... |
07:53.59 | ChipX86 | numist: and also, I like salty things when my throat hurts, but I don't know why |
07:54.00 | laodamas | numist: extra spicy tortilla soup :P |
07:54.11 | numist | laodamas: you bastard |
07:54.22 | numist | ChipX86: good call |
07:54.35 | ChipX86 | speaking of which, popcorn time |
07:54.40 | numist | ChipX86: I was just thinking, and sorry if its not a good subject, but what's the goings on with Jamie? |
07:55.40 | ChipX86 | we're doing okay |
07:55.47 | ChipX86 | decided to just see how things go |
07:55.53 | numist | I'm really glad to hear that |
07:55.56 | numist | life's too short anyway |
07:56.06 | ChipX86 | the only problem really has been the possible marriage/kids issue, and we know htat would be a very long time in the future anyway |
07:56.10 | ChipX86 | we get along great |
07:56.17 | ChipX86 | except sometimes I shoot her in bzflag. Well, a lot. |
07:56.28 | numist | nice |
07:56.48 | numist | now is way too early to decide such important things. people change and priorities change as you live |
07:56.56 | ChipX86 | nod |
07:57.16 | numist | hear anything about your dad today? |
08:00.42 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah |
08:00.50 | numist | awesome :) |
08:01.23 | ChipX86 | basically, his MCI voicemail service isn't working and isn't saving any messages. So he didn't get my original message, decided to head out of town for the weekend, and accidentally left his cell phone at home |
08:01.47 | numist | oh good |
08:02.34 | numist | so, I'm thinking of going up there on the 19th or so, and coming back down on the 27th or so... take the whole thanksgiving week off.... what does ev'ryone think |
08:03.14 | ChipX86 | I'm most likely gone from the 18th to the 27th |
08:04.31 | numist | bah |
08:04.49 | numist | maybe I'll stay monday too, to avoid traffic, but yeah... |
08:12.46 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/format_notes.txt: notes on the UV rendering of a pyramid |
08:14.07 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
08:14.08 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: write out all objects |
08:14.08 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: add support for pyramids |
08:14.08 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: more common IO code |
08:14.08 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: cleanups in world and rendering headers |
08:22.56 | hardwire | mmm |
08:22.57 | hardwire | bzflag |
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10:09.44 | purple_cow | sigh |
10:10.00 | scanlime | heh. I didn't even notice zero was down for a while, I thought it was my wireless card flaking out again |
10:10.01 | scanlime | sorry |
10:10.04 | purple_cow | hehe |
10:10.46 | purple_cow | i thought the same thing, since some web sites flaked out on me right at that moment |
10:12.30 | scanlime | go go gadget svn server... |
10:12.40 | scanlime | oh, what the heck... |
10:12.42 | scanlime | CIA's gone too? |
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15:16.44 | pagefaul1 | tacos for all |
15:17.10 | file[laptop] | great idea |
15:17.24 | file[laptop] | hey look it's a .83 address, and that's... my block! |
15:17.28 | pagefaul1 | wow |
15:17.32 | pagefaul1 | someone must be using it then |
15:17.37 | file[laptop] | scary |
15:21.51 | pagefaul1 | so when will I be able to play SNES over VoIp |
15:21.53 | pagefaul1 | err VoIP |
15:23.33 | file[laptop] | ha |
15:23.48 | file[laptop] | NEVAR! |
15:24.33 | pagefaul1 | bleh |
15:24.38 | gonkulator | bleh is right |
15:24.55 | file[laptop] | I'm killing problems on our system... and then heading to lunch with a girl :) |
15:26.37 | pagefaul1 | nice |
15:26.51 | pagefaul1 | you should get her number |
15:26.55 | file[laptop] | I have it! |
15:26.58 | file[laptop] | landline AND cell |
15:27.27 | pagefaul1 | :D |
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15:49.17 | file[laptop] | a project I got handed yesterday just got a wrench thrown into it |
15:49.22 | file[laptop] | they want... a postpaid calling card |
15:54.54 | pagefaul1 | haha what |
15:54.58 | pagefaul1 | just send them a bill |
15:55.37 | file[laptop] | fraud potential, is high |
15:55.43 | file[laptop] | this calling card gives total calling to anywhere in the world |
15:57.28 | pagefaul1 | that sounds fun |
16:07.31 | pagefaul1 | haha |
16:07.33 | pagefaul1 | what the hell |
16:07.39 | pagefaul1 | videotron is suing bell over the fact that |
16:07.49 | pagefaul1 | they did not do enough to protect their service from being pirated |
16:07.54 | pagefaul1 | so they feel they can't comepete |
16:07.57 | pagefaul1 | err compete |
16:08.52 | pagefaul1 | people will do anything for money to compaeat |
16:08.58 | pagefaul1 | err compete |
16:09.05 | pagefaul1 | it's goofy |
16:55.41 | pagefaul1 | wtf |
16:55.46 | pagefaul1 | one of my professors is working at vmware |
17:13.14 | numist | hah |
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17:49.31 | darth_mall | someone needs to teach Amer how it's not wise to mix tabs and space for indentation |
17:57.00 | darth_mall | I think one of my most favorite things about Amer's code is how inconsistent his conventions are |
17:59.00 | darth_mall | and why oh why did he put a line break in the middle of a method call... |
17:59.34 | darth_mall | he put a break right before the '.' in: board.getColor() |
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18:22.48 | hardwire | scanlime: any idea how you advertised for vmware positions? |
18:25.27 | darth_mall | mornin' hardwire |
18:25.31 | hardwire | hey darthy |
18:25.33 | hardwire | hows your coffee |
18:25.35 | hardwire | mine sucks |
18:26.04 | darth_mall | mine was ok |
18:26.06 | darth_mall | all gone now |
18:26.23 | darth_mall | hmm... should probably start gettin' ready for class |
18:27.28 | darth_mall | mornin' JayPee |
18:27.38 | JayPee | good morning |
18:28.00 | JayPee | how goes? |
18:28.13 | darth_mall | ok, I suppose |
18:28.16 | darth_mall | and you? |
18:28.40 | JayPee | sitting in Python training |
18:28.52 | darth_mall | yay Python |
18:28.57 | JayPee | staring out the window, watching the planes on the KSJC runway one-two-right ILS |
18:31.11 | numist | yay glideslopes |
18:32.05 | JayPee | numist: and localizers! |
18:32.26 | numist | I see a pilot in the works here, you have your license? |
18:32.38 | JayPee | student pilot |
18:32.43 | numist | thats excellent |
18:32.47 | JayPee | probably two months from checkride |
18:32.48 | JayPee | you? |
18:32.49 | numist | flying is great |
18:33.10 | numist | no, I stopped when I realised I wouldnt be able to fly at night. I copiloted until two monthsago though |
18:33.25 | JayPee | awesome! :-) |
18:33.26 | numist | now I've got no one to fly with though :( |
18:34.08 | JayPee | :`( |
18:34.29 | numist | I'm pretty sure I dont want to touch a yoke for a while, but I still love to fly |
18:34.50 | JayPee | yeah... |
18:36.38 | numist | actually, there was a really good airshow here last month |
18:36.45 | JayPee | #define HERE |
18:37.01 | numist | San Diego, specifically the Miramar Marine base |
18:37.14 | numist | world's smallest aircraft carrier was here, as well as a petersen jet truck |
18:37.16 | numist | it was damn cool |
18:37.33 | JayPee | oh yeah |
18:37.35 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (7 files in 2 dirs): spelling error |
18:37.39 | JayPee | I went to the one at KSNS |
18:37.44 | JayPee | last month, I guess it was |
18:37.52 | numist | JeffM2501: thats some spelling error, dude... 7 files? |
18:37.58 | JayPee | they had that and the Robo thing that eats cars |
18:38.06 | numist | JayPee: oh nice, I didnt see that |
18:38.11 | JayPee | hrm... |
18:38.12 | JayPee | just a sec |
18:38.23 | JeffM2501 | never underestemate my misspelling abilitys :) |
18:38.32 | numist | hah |
18:38.49 | JeffM2501 | I tend to take it to the limit |
18:38.59 | numist | in all things, I see |
18:39.32 | numist | mmm oatmeal |
18:41.07 | JayPee | numist: http://warlock.blackops.org/~msk/pics/SalinasAirShow/2005/ |
18:41.14 | JayPee | (Not my photos, but that's the guy I went w/) |
18:41.39 | JayPee | favorite: http://warlock.blackops.org/~msk/pics/SalinasAirShow/2005/pages/img111.htm |
18:41.44 | numist | whoa wtf is that dinosaur thing |
18:42.04 | JayPee | that's the Robosaurus |
18:42.15 | numist | yeah, a hornet broke the barrier RIGHT OVER ME. actually, it didnt break it, but it flirted with it, and the effect was phenominal |
18:42.51 | numist | where is this site? its running a little slow now that we're hitting it |
18:43.00 | JayPee | no clue |
18:43.05 | JayPee | might be a cable modem |
18:43.05 | numist | hah, connection timed out :( |
18:43.49 | numist | seeing the condensation appear/disappear around the skin of the wings was so very cool |
18:46.24 | numist | that robobot thinger is so cool, but the site broke on me :( |
18:46.35 | JayPee | hrm. |
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19:02.15 | numist | wow, sony uses a rootkit to enforce DRM on a machine... a buggy one, at that... |
19:02.19 | numist | http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?sssdmh=dm4.157363&articleID=173402523 |
19:07.57 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/worldIO.cpp: spin has 4 components |
19:14.43 | scanlime | ugg |
19:15.02 | scanlime | slept through my alarm, rain outside my window is deafening, knob came off of the shower |
19:15.16 | scanlime | at least by the time I get to work, the bagels will be stale! |
19:16.13 | numist | its raining up there? |
19:16.53 | scanlime | well, it looks like the rain stopped recently, but the gutters on this building are still making an awful lot of noise |
19:17.58 | numist | :) |
19:23.04 | JayPee | scanlime: I hate getting up when it's raining |
19:23.16 | JayPee | like, all pitter-patter outside, and all arm and snuggly under the covers |
19:23.23 | scanlime | yeah |
19:24.00 | JayPee | +w |
19:25.31 | JayPee | heh |
19:25.48 | JayPee | the best is when the tip of my nose is cold, but the rest of me is snuggly warm. |
19:25.51 | JayPee | That was probably TMI |
19:26.05 | numist | hehe |
19:33.52 | hardwire | anybody here worked for a boss that was more ok with temporary measures than actual engineering? |
19:34.29 | hardwire | due diligence should be a primary aspect of a CEO of a corporation |
19:34.31 | hardwire | no matter how large. |
19:35.50 | JayPee | in fact |
19:37.17 | numist | hehe |
19:37.24 | numist | no, never worked for anyone like that before... |
19:38.33 | JayPee | when you make as much money as we make, engineering sorta takes a back seat to "Whatever will make us more money." |
19:38.53 | numist | thats why I'm glad I work at a startup |
19:39.30 | JayPee | startups can be worse in that regard |
19:39.39 | JayPee | it depends on who's running the show |
19:40.06 | numist | right |
19:40.14 | hardwire | JayPee: every month its the same bullshit |
19:40.14 | numist | and what portion you work on |
19:40.32 | hardwire | none of my plans for making a good communications system for this company are ever given any solidity |
19:40.37 | numist | there are parts here where engineering takes a back seat to time to market, but I work on the backend stuff |
19:40.41 | hardwire | nor any plan any other division has |
19:41.02 | hardwire | instead I have to make dozens of temporary wireless backbones and find temporary places to install PRI lines |
19:41.06 | hardwire | it just makes no sense |
19:41.41 | hardwire | one day I am told to focus installation on a building that will be our new HQ.. another day I am told just do temporary lines for everything.. since we won't be there more than a month |
19:41.49 | hardwire | ok.. where are we going? |
19:41.53 | darth_mall | I think it's learned early |
19:41.58 | hardwire | well half of us will stay there.. but do it temporary |
19:42.06 | hardwire | wheres the other half going? |
19:42.11 | hardwire | leasing space from a fish processing plant |
19:42.13 | hardwire | :( |
19:42.15 | darth_mall | a lot of the kids in my class are less concerned about understanding the hw and doing it well then they are about getting good grades |
19:42.27 | hardwire | ok.. so now I have to do another temporary connection to a building we have no cojnnectivity to |
19:43.01 | darth_mall | because it's easy and it works and they don't care about cleanliness |
19:43.24 | hardwire | darth_mall: nobody cares about the fouundation |
19:43.32 | hardwire | if they don't need to understand it.. why care? |
19:44.21 | hardwire | I am almost ready to make an swqf presentation of little arrows and dotted lines that run circles all over the infrastructure |
19:44.29 | hardwire | showing all the temporary measures I have made by his whim |
19:44.36 | hardwire | and why nothing ever fucking works |
19:44.57 | file[laptop] | I just visited a place on the Metro, well the station is named Snowdon, but it's actually much warmer then it is in this part of Montreal |
19:45.24 | hardwire | I am the black goddamn sheep because nothing ever works.. nobody plans it right.. our lines get excavated but nobody ever thought it would ever happen.. our wireless devices need tuning who would have thought maintainence would be an aspect on a temporary measure!!! |
19:45.36 | hardwire | if I were smarted.. by just a wee bit more I would quit and find a new job. |
19:45.52 | JayPee | hardwire: sing it sistah! |
19:46.00 | hardwire | everybody blames me for their internet or cable being down |
19:46.08 | hardwire | even my boss |
19:46.18 | hardwire | just blows my mind |
19:47.02 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I had a dream I went to best buy.. and bought the exosip firmware for snom phones.. you of course pointed it out and said "well duh" |
19:48.05 | file[laptop] | lol |
19:48.14 | file[laptop] | I dreamt in french lastnight |
19:49.20 | JayPee | I don't even want to get into my complaints... |
19:49.22 | hardwire | file[laptop]: haha |
19:49.42 | hardwire | my dreams have been overly in-depth lately |
19:49.49 | hardwire | JayPee: sure I do |
19:53.11 | hardwire | file[laptop]: have you ever dealt with multi-linked voip servers? |
19:54.45 | darth_mall | take that! |
19:54.52 | file[laptop] | define multi-linked |
19:55.09 | file[laptop] | sharing the same information, load balancing, sharing dialplans, what |
19:58.17 | numist | still no answer from uber :( |
20:00.59 | ChipX86 | wow I slept in late. oops.. |
20:01.07 | file[laptop] | that's okay |
20:01.35 | JayPee | ChipX86: lazy ass |
20:01.45 | numist | wow, morning chip |
20:04.39 | ChipX86 | not feeling that great today |
20:04.53 | darth_mall | >< |
20:04.59 | ChipX86 | slept 11 hours. man.. |
20:05.04 | ChipX86 | or 10.5 or something |
20:05.15 | JayPee | heh |
20:07.39 | JayPee | ok |
20:07.40 | JayPee | lunchtime |
20:10.27 | ChipX86 | breakfast time |
20:16.48 | scanlime | ChipX86: heh, you're gonna be in late too I take it :) |
20:18.14 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I'm just going to WFH |
20:18.22 | ChipX86 | there's no reason to be at work today, and I have a lot I want to get done |
20:18.40 | scanlime | heh |
20:18.46 | scanlime | I should request my dongly-widget for that |
20:18.58 | scanlime | 'course, I'm not sure I can effectively work from home with the hardware I have there... |
20:19.13 | scanlime | but I guess it isn't like I'd actually be compiling vmware on my laptop |
20:19.17 | scanlime | just using it as an ssh terminal |
20:20.31 | ChipX86 | right |
20:20.36 | ChipX86 | ssh and maybe vnc |
20:20.46 | scanlime | hmm |
20:21.03 | scanlime | this says I need to get a purchase order for the SecurID thingy filled out by my manager |
20:21.09 | scanlime | today's the off-site at Paul's house |
20:21.42 | ChipX86 | grrrr, AIM does *NOT* handle multiple accounts logged in simultaneously very well. It claims to, but my work account is gobbling up some messages |
20:22.02 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
20:22.12 | ChipX86 | I never actually did that. I just said to my manager, "I need one" and waited |
20:22.26 | scanlime | hehe |
20:23.15 | hardwire | ugh |
20:23.17 | hardwire | why am I thinking about using ubuntu? |
20:23.19 | hardwire | seriously.. stop me if I am insane |
20:23.22 | ChipX86 | because ubuntu rocks |
20:23.36 | ChipX86 | it's the first linux distro that hasn't totally pissed me off |
20:23.52 | scanlime | it's like debian, but with less ancient cruft! |
20:23.57 | ChipX86 | yep |
20:24.11 | scanlime | darth_mall: yes. ubuntu still bothers me in some ways |
20:24.35 | lurgy|work | "Dear Amazon.com Customer, |
20:24.35 | lurgy|work | We've noticed that customers who have purchased Shostakovich Symphony |
20:24.35 | lurgy|work | No.11 also purchased Conducts Percy Grainger Favorites." |
20:24.38 | hardwire | well |
20:24.41 | hardwire | I am going to install it |
20:24.50 | hardwire | since chippy holds it in high reguard |
20:24.54 | darth_mall | hardwire: ^^ |
20:25.09 | ChipX86 | it bothers me in some ways too, but far far less than debian, Red Hat, Fedora, and Gentoo |
20:25.17 | darth_mall | ubuntu is the nicest distro with binary packages that I've used |
20:25.27 | hardwire | what makes it so wildly different than debian? |
20:25.37 | ChipX86 | it's actually up-to-date |
20:25.48 | ChipX86 | debian tends to be very far behind on xorg and gnome packages, for instance |
20:25.50 | scanlime | it isn't wildly different.. it's basically just debian with a lot of new packages thrown in |
20:25.57 | hardwire | ChipX86: apparently one of the head packagers lives in my home town.. goes to the same lug I used to be part of |
20:25.58 | ChipX86 | nod |
20:26.00 | scanlime | and they really cleaned up the gnome |
20:26.03 | darth_mall | and some munged preferences |
20:26.10 | scanlime | heh, yeah |
20:26.19 | ChipX86 | yeah, they borked spatial, but that's fortunately fixable now |
20:26.19 | darth_mall | they disable spatial nautilus by default, and rearrange some menus |
20:26.26 | ChipX86 | what menus? |
20:26.44 | hardwire | crap on your graves evil doers. |
20:26.48 | hardwire | I am going to spend all day isntalling this now |
20:26.58 | darth_mall | they put the Terminal under Applications->Accessories instead of Applications->System Tools |
20:27.03 | darth_mall | small things like that |
20:27.07 | ChipX86 | oh, yeah |
20:28.19 | hardwire | do you guys even prefer ubuntu for server related functions |
20:28.19 | nullpuppy | grrr, stupid potato button on my microwave isn't cooking my potato very well :/ |
20:28.33 | darth_mall | that's what you get for using a microwave to cook a potato |
20:28.36 | scanlime | fuck |
20:28.37 | hardwire | nullpuppy: did you put the potato in the microwave? |
20:28.42 | darth_mall | hardwire: haha |
20:28.49 | ChipX86 | hardwire: haven't used it much for server stuff. I still use gentoo for that, but I'm sure it'd be fine for server stuff |
20:28.51 | scanlime | so if you open up an Ellisys binary file, you get this encouraging URL in the header: http://www.ellisys.com/ufo/specification/ |
20:28.56 | nullpuppy | hardwire: yes, i'm feeling lazy right now :) |
20:28.58 | scanlime | but the site has absolutely no specification |
20:29.00 | hardwire | hah |
20:29.03 | hardwire | looks like I ahve no choice |
20:29.05 | ChipX86 | hah |
20:29.05 | nullpuppy | not patiene enough to bake it |
20:29.08 | hardwire | ext3 barfed on my laptop |
20:29.11 | hardwire | thanks fglrx |
20:29.15 | ChipX86 | it has a file format |
20:29.20 | ChipX86 | ack |
20:29.22 | ChipX86 | no it doesn't |
20:29.26 | scanlime | see? |
20:29.28 | scanlime | isn't that evil? |
20:29.31 | ChipX86 | very |
20:29.42 | scanlime | oh well. This couldn't be that hard to reverse engineer |
20:29.44 | ChipX86 | it's a trap! |
20:29.47 | scanlime | and it's something to do while I'm waiting on Chris |
20:30.10 | ChipX86 | also, g++ template errors suck |
20:30.28 | ChipX86 | also, I need to find a way to remote-control thunderbird |
20:30.37 | scanlime | also, bagels rock |
20:30.43 | nullpuppy | hmm.. either of you have any idea what the text select cursor would be enclosed in a black box in a xp vm on a linux host? |
20:30.43 | ChipX86 | also, they do |
20:30.46 | nullpuppy | using ati drivers.. |
20:31.00 | scanlime | nullpuppy: ATI drivers suck? |
20:31.02 | ChipX86 | nullpuppy: extra protection |
20:31.06 | nullpuppy | its only the text select cursor too |
20:31.12 | nullpuppy | :( |
20:31.14 | ChipX86 | did you reboot? :) |
20:31.26 | nullpuppy | fairly certain i have, yes |
20:31.28 | scanlime | sounds like something's corrupting your video memory... I used to have problems like that when I used ATI |
20:31.33 | nullpuppy | it worked fine on the other box.. |
20:31.37 | nullpuppy | hrm |
20:32.19 | nullpuppy | tis wierd.. its only that one cursor, and its the same regardless of the pointer 'theme' |
20:32.46 | ChipX86 | bah. It kind of lets you remote control it as far as opening a message compose window, but I want to actually put content in it |
20:33.07 | scanlime | can't you do that with some extra paramters in a mailto: URL? |
20:33.17 | ChipX86 | maybe |
20:33.37 | ChipX86 | basically, I want a make-review-type script that generates the e-mail body |
20:33.47 | scanlime | heh |
20:33.55 | ChipX86 | bah |
20:34.00 | ChipX86 | where? |
20:34.03 | scanlime | chris wrote one that remote-controls mutt using pexpect |
20:34.10 | scanlime | I have one that just sends directly to SMTP |
20:34.15 | ChipX86 | oh, mutt |
20:34.17 | scanlime | ~micah/bin/q4 |
20:34.30 | scanlime | not sure where chris's version went to.. but it's very strange |
20:34.35 | ChipX86 | well, I need to be able to edit it before sending :/ |
20:34.41 | scanlime | why? |
20:34.57 | ChipX86 | our reviews are fairly detailed. Per-file details, screenshot attachments |
20:35.18 | scanlime | so just use 'yap log' and put that into your patch stack |
20:35.18 | scanlime | :) |
20:35.20 | ChipX86 | file listings in the order in which they were modified, more or less |
20:35.34 | hardwire | I can only wonder how well ubuntu will deal with all the crap I have to deal with |
20:35.35 | ChipX86 | we don't use all that for the changeset info though |
20:35.38 | ChipX86 | and again, screenshots :) |
20:35.43 | hardwire | I wonder if it will give me any assistance |
20:35.56 | ChipX86 | it will give you shit and you'll like it |
20:35.58 | scanlime | this isn't the perforce changelog, this is the yap log |
20:36.05 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
20:36.29 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
20:36.35 | ChipX86 | it scares me |
20:36.39 | ChipX86 | and someday I should try it |
20:36.44 | hardwire | I am going to assume ubunto has a kick ass plone package |
20:36.51 | ChipX86 | spell it right :P |
20:37.05 | hardwire | or you will what. |
20:37.09 | scanlime | ubanto! |
20:37.09 | hardwire | ubuntu.. meh.. |
20:37.10 | ChipX86 | "ooh boon two" |
20:37.16 | hardwire | yeh I know it.. |
20:37.18 | hardwire | heh |
20:37.22 | hardwire | I just made a typo.. wooowooo |
20:37.30 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ubanto :) man I wanted to yell at that QA person for that |
20:37.48 | ChipX86 | once is forgiveable, especialyl when you correct the person, but by the 4th one it gets real annoying |
20:38.21 | hardwire | 2.6.11 |
20:38.21 | hardwire | hmm |
20:38.38 | ChipX86 | 2.6.12 |
20:39.00 | ChipX86 | super |
20:39.10 | ChipX86 | damn you g++ |
20:43.39 | nullpuppy | :( I overcooked the potato |
20:43.48 | scanlime | s/overcooked/overclocked/ |
20:43.54 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I read it that way too |
20:43.58 | darth_mall | that's god's way of saying microwaves are a sin |
20:44.05 | nullpuppy | haha |
20:47.39 | ChipX86 | "According to Groklaw, SCO is now demanding IBM to turn over 'all documents concerning IBM's contributions to the Linux 2.7 kernel, including development work'. Of course, there is no 2.7 kernel and no plans at all to create one." |
20:48.52 | ChipX86 | ARGH |
20:49.05 | nullpuppy | rofl |
20:49.14 | ChipX86 | been staring at these few lines of code for a long time because that's where g++ claimed the problem was |
20:49.26 | ChipX86 | of course it was wrong, considering it's still saying that spot, which is one big comment block |
20:52.34 | ChipX86 | there we go. |
20:59.15 | scanlime | wow. even more reason to hate Ellisys |
20:59.31 | scanlime | all of a sudden the usual Export pane is replaced with "This functionality of the software is sold separately" |
21:00.35 | ChipX86 | http://andreas.syndrom23.de/dump/screen-install.png |
21:00.43 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ewww |
21:01.21 | scanlime | all the more reason to reverse engineer their stupid thing and toss this software out the window |
21:04.02 | scanlime | at least ghex seems to have improved since I used it last |
21:04.35 | ChipX86 | hasci (sp?) is good too |
21:06.32 | scanlime | ugh.. maybe ghex hasn't improved |
21:06.38 | scanlime | slow, and lots of rendering errors |
21:06.41 | ChipX86 | :/ |
21:07.06 | scanlime | I like the pane on ghex that decodes data in different formats... |
21:07.10 | scanlime | but that's about it |
21:07.20 | scanlime | I want a hex editor that has that, plus lets me mark up a file with different colors, or comments |
21:07.51 | scanlime | best solution I have so far is pasting the output of hexdump into emacs, then using Python to decode when I need it |
21:11.11 | ChipX86 | write one :) |
21:11.24 | scanlime | tempting :P |
21:12.23 | scanlime | actually, a normal text editor works ok for this |
21:12.35 | numist | whats a good mini pci wireless card? |
21:12.37 | scanlime | now that I have ghex somewhat behaving, I can use it to decode things |
21:12.45 | numist | I think the one thats in my computer now is whats causing the crashyness |
21:13.48 | scanlime | ooh.. I should use tomboy for this, so I can hilight |
21:16.05 | hardwire | that looks like a neat program |
21:16.31 | ChipX86 | it's a very good program |
21:16.39 | ChipX86 | and when it acts up, I walk down three rooms and talk to the developer |
21:19.11 | ChipX86 | "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" -- Sony President |
21:20.09 | numist | yeah.. got a vp from the prez here saying dont play sony cds at work :o |
21:22.26 | CIA-10 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1789 10mck/Cx/Scripts/ (. __init__.py): yay |
21:22.40 | hardwire | hah |
21:23.00 | CIA-10 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1790 10mck/Cx/ (MOps/ MOps/Scripts/ Scripts/): double yay |
21:24.28 | hardwire | do you x86 laptop users have suspend working at all (via acpi) |
21:25.18 | JayPee | oh god. |
21:25.24 | ChipX86 | nope |
21:25.42 | JayPee | I do |
21:26.11 | numist | kinda |
21:26.29 | CIA-10 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1791 10mck/Cx/MOps/ (Commands/ Scripts/ __init__.py): tripple decker yay |
21:26.40 | JayPee | ChipX86: FatDarrel is wanting Perforce access to "check something in" |
21:26.47 | ChipX86 | ughh |
21:26.59 | CIA-10 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1792 10mck/ (10 files in 6 dirs): double dog yay |
21:27.03 | ChipX86 | check what in? |
21:27.15 | ChipX86 | and what exactly is his job? |
21:28.10 | JayPee | no one knows |
21:28.14 | JayPee | I'm glad he asked me |
21:28.23 | JayPee | all the other build engineers would've said "Sure, no problem!" |
21:28.55 | JayPee | Because we're sooooo willing to please... |
21:29.21 | ChipX86 | :/ |
21:29.29 | ChipX86 | he seems so clueless |
21:29.51 | JayPee | I know he's a TechOps person; it's unclear whether or not he's a contractor |
21:30.07 | ChipX86 | I think he said he is a contractor |
21:30.12 | ChipX86 | it was apparently a very quick interview |
21:30.16 | JayPee | well, I just asked him via email, so... |
21:30.19 | hardwire | nope.. i do.. kinda |
21:30.53 | hardwire | 50% |
21:35.31 | hardwire | http://www.beaglewiki.org/Main_Page |
21:35.32 | hardwire | weird |
21:35.48 | ChipX86 | what's weird about it? |
21:35.53 | hardwire | I like how more and more projects are getting better and better websites |
21:35.58 | ChipX86 | yeah |
21:35.59 | hardwire | ChipX86: dunno.. I never heard of beagle actually |
21:36.03 | ChipX86 | oh wow |
21:36.12 | ChipX86 | poor guy :) |
21:36.19 | ChipX86 | I even have stuff in beagle! |
21:36.19 | hardwire | Iguess huh |
21:37.02 | ChipX86 | http://galago-project.org/screenshots/index.php |
21:37.12 | ChipX86 | they're improving the beagle UI now. Very neat stuff going on there |
21:37.14 | hardwire | yay |
21:37.22 | hardwire | sushi place next door opened and the compayn is paying |
21:37.25 | hardwire | brb |
21:37.28 | ChipX86 | nice |
21:38.10 | hardwire | I know the lpace |
21:38.12 | hardwire | not the best |
21:38.21 | hardwire | they slice all sashimi way too thin for the price |
21:38.31 | hardwire | guess I like my slabby peices of fish more |
21:38.48 | JayPee | ChipX86: he is a contractor |
21:38.54 | JayPee | and now he's getting beligerent |
21:38.57 | ChipX86 | doing what exactly? |
21:39.01 | JayPee | "So, can I get a Perforce ID, or not?!" |
21:39.05 | ChipX86 | ugh |
21:39.11 | ChipX86 | he's so annoying |
21:39.16 | ChipX86 | this is my fault |
21:39.54 | nullpuppy | grrr |
21:40.01 | nullpuppy | damn reference passing isn't working properly |
21:42.26 | JayPee | ChipX86: I sent email to his manager, saying "Is he aware you need Perforce access?" ;-) |
21:42.38 | ChipX86 | haha |
21:42.46 | ChipX86 | did he say what he needed it for? |
21:42.53 | ChipX86 | I imagine he just wants it |
21:43.00 | JayPee | yes |
21:43.05 | JayPee | some project he's supposedly working on |
21:43.08 | JayPee | for the bulid team |
21:46.00 | JayPee | It was a bullshit excuse... |
21:46.27 | ChipX86 | heh |
21:46.45 | ChipX86 | it feels like FatDarrel thinks of this as a game, and he wants to get access to more stuff to feel special |
21:47.01 | JayPee | I don't think it's that at all |
21:47.25 | JayPee | it wouldn't entirely surprise me if he was trying to steal the source. |
21:47.47 | scanlime | he doesn't need perforce access to do that |
21:47.55 | JayPee | true |
21:47.59 | JayPee | our security is great! ;-) |
21:48.01 | ChipX86 | possibly |
21:48.02 | ChipX86 | heh |
21:48.03 | scanlime | :) |
21:48.12 | JayPee | scanlime: OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't *know* about *that*, either |
21:48.16 | scanlime | tomboy needs more hilight colors |
21:48.17 | JayPee | "exit14? What's that?!) |
21:48.18 | scanlime | JayPee: heh, true |
21:48.19 | ChipX86 | it just bothers me how every conversation I've had with him, public and private, has been extremely unprofessional |
21:48.38 | JayPee | you should've seen what I *almost* typed this morning |
21:48.42 | scanlime | I love reverse engineering |
21:48.45 | ChipX86 | I just don't expect him to have any responsibility |
21:48.46 | JayPee | he said |
21:48.53 | scanlime | taking a big hex dump that looks like garbage, and turning it into something semantically meaningful |
21:49.01 | JayPee | 09:33 < anad0> what up mate'es |
21:49.27 | JayPee | and I wanted to say "Why don't you ask 'the ladies' over in #hosted-ui?" |
21:49.30 | JayPee | but I didn't. |
21:49.34 | ChipX86 | hah |
21:49.39 | ChipX86 | now *that* bothered me |
21:50.05 | ChipX86 | did he think that we woudln't be in #vmware, or what? That's not only immaturity, but blind stupidity as well |
21:50.37 | ChipX86 | ok so he's a contractor. How long do contractors last? |
21:52.00 | JayPee | haha |
21:52.03 | JayPee | maybe he'll get converted! |
21:52.36 | ChipX86 | to full-time? |
21:54.41 | ChipX86 | <jameslin> wow. perforce is being really slow |
21:54.45 | ChipX86 | <anad0> yeah i haven't got an id |
21:55.00 | JayPee | ChipX86: yes |
21:55.01 | JayPee | also: |
21:55.02 | JayPee | I believe he does because I am working on a project where the |
21:55.02 | JayPee | information needs to be stored on a central repository server and I am |
21:55.03 | JayPee | supposed to do some builds. |
21:55.13 | JayPee | Worst. Excuse. Evar. |
21:55.26 | ChipX86 | manager? |
21:55.30 | JayPee | Iben. |
21:55.39 | JayPee | Who's also a sorry excuse for a manager. |
21:55.42 | ChipX86 | meh |
22:05.15 | JayPee | heheh |
22:06.49 | darth_mall | it's true |
22:09.07 | numist | what, you and your great ideas? |
22:09.58 | purple_cow | damn my warm, fuzzy bed |
22:11.29 | nullpuppy | gonna need nearly $40 in materials to make what i want to make |
22:12.57 | nullpuppy | hrm, maybe more then that... |
22:13.33 | nullpuppy | depends on how much the clover honey is... |
22:17.49 | scanlime | oof |
22:17.56 | scanlime | tomboy gets slow on big notes pretty quickly |
22:18.33 | purple_cow | probably the spell checking |
22:20.11 | scanlime | arrrrrrr |
22:20.18 | scanlime | it nuked my hilighting when I copied and pasted |
22:22.37 | scanlime | ugh |
22:22.48 | scanlime | it also lost one of my other notes when I was splitting them up |
22:23.03 | ChipX86 | that's no good |
22:23.22 | scanlime | oh well. The notes are secondary, I think I'm getting a good understanding of how this file format works |
22:23.43 | ChipX86 | I hate the vmtn forums :( |
22:24.16 | scanlime | oh, it didn't disappear... somehow I got two notes with the same name |
22:34.44 | darth_mall | yay |
22:35.16 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so what's the story, are we watching Battleship Galactica tonight? ^^ |
22:35.32 | purple_cow | no, battlestar potemkin |
22:35.47 | purple_cow | after lurgy's concert |
22:36.24 | darth_mall | ok, Battlestar Potemkin it is |
22:36.28 | hardwire | you guys are so cool |
22:36.30 | darth_mall | when's lurgy's concert over? |
22:36.42 | darth_mall | hardwire: I love you too <smoochu> :-* |
22:36.47 | hardwire | eww |
22:36.48 | darth_mall | hmm... |
22:36.51 | darth_mall | ~cpr hardwire |
22:36.53 | hardwire | http://www.typogenerator.net/index.php |
22:36.53 | hardwire | wtf |
22:38.10 | darth_mall | hardwire: it's probably some CS student's senior project ^^ |
22:42.43 | purple_cow | darth_mall: probably 9:30ish? |
22:42.51 | darth_mall | ok |
22:42.58 | darth_mall | if I'm not online, just gimme a call |
22:51.25 | darth_mall | apache is so easy to configure when you're not doing anything weird |
22:52.28 | ChipX86 | but how often does that happen? |
22:55.00 | darth_mall | just now |
22:55.01 | darth_mall | ^^ |
22:55.50 | darth_mall | ooh look! purple_cow got a bt that wasn't full of ??'s |
22:56.00 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i've got a couple of them :P |
22:56.08 | darth_mall | ^^ |
22:56.15 | purple_cow | ugh |
22:56.20 | purple_cow | this is a nasty problem |
22:56.27 | purple_cow | deep inside gtk/pango |
22:56.30 | darth_mall | didn't mean that as though it were a first for you. but it's a first for that particular bug ;) |
22:56.47 | purple_cow | yeah |
22:57.08 | purple_cow | i especially like how he posted a duplicate trace as an attachment |
22:57.49 | purple_cow | mmm |
22:58.11 | purple_cow | ``Cam ye o'er frae france'' sounds so awesome with the volume loud |
23:02.15 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ping |
23:03.31 | scanlime | hm? |
23:03.38 | hardwire | thats me talkin |
23:04.07 | ChipX86 | scanlime: talking to alex in #hosted-ui. Joe Shaw is having nothign but problems using USB Mass Storage devices in 5.5 |
23:04.14 | ChipX86 | can you join? |
23:04.24 | hardwire | darth_mall: hah |
23:04.25 | hardwire | no |
23:04.29 | hardwire | I am just in good spirits now |
23:04.31 | hardwire | my boss got shit on |
23:04.33 | darth_mall | yay |
23:04.33 | hardwire | and I was right |
23:04.42 | hardwire | I need a manager.. and every week I would remind him |
23:04.55 | hardwire | he found one.. wanted them to come on-board really bad.. then spent most of his days ignoring it |
23:05.00 | hardwire | and is now pissed she got another job |
23:05.01 | purple_cow | hmm! |
23:05.07 | purple_cow | i think i might know what's wrong! |
23:05.37 | purple_cow | PangoAttribute extents are measured in bytes, but SexySpellEntry is using characters |
23:05.50 | purple_cow | so it might be sticking the end of an attribute right in the middle of a character |
23:07.27 | ChipX86 | oooh |
23:07.49 | ChipX86 | scanlime: actually, if you could message joe on gimpnet |
23:07.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall: hahahaha |
23:07.58 | ChipX86 | (alex doesn't want to relay) |
23:08.14 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I've been debating since I woke up whether I want to try it... |
23:08.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
23:08.18 | darth_mall | it's a disease! |
23:09.06 | purple_cow | yep |
23:09.14 | purple_cow | doesn't seem to have broken anything too badly though |
23:09.19 | purple_cow | just don't upgrade glade if you want to use it |
23:09.50 | purple_cow | glade2 sucks, but glade3 just isn't ready |
23:10.02 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9259 10teaching_boxes/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Restructuring things. Making space for the code. |
23:12.06 | scanlime | ahh |
23:12.27 | ChipX86 | ? |
23:13.30 | scanlime | suse |
23:13.35 | ChipX86 | yep |
23:14.46 | darth_mall | bad suse! |
23:14.46 | darth_mall | go to your room |
23:15.49 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
23:15.55 | ChipX86 | "In his unsuccessful motion to dismiss his case, Hudson argued that he could not be charged, in part, because the conspiracy indictment against him listed his name in all capital letters. The proper wording of his name, he wrote, is "Oliver Clifton: Hudson"" |
23:16.57 | darth_mall | yay |
23:17.32 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9260 10teaching_boxes/web/ (images/ images/tb_banner.jpg index.html): Add a skeleton and a copy of the header from teachingboxes.org |
23:18.36 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9261 10teaching_boxes/web/index.html: |
23:18.36 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: Copy the front page from teachingboxes.org since this should be a mockup of |
23:18.36 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: their site anyway. |
23:18.50 | darth_mall | hmm... what to listen to now |
23:19.59 | darth_mall | ack! I don't have Venue Songs on here |
23:20.03 | darth_mall | bad darth_mall! |
23:20.07 | darth_mall | go to your room |
23:20.41 | hardwire | me is going to install ubuntu in this management meeting |
23:20.49 | hardwire | throw a slash in there and its all goo |
23:20.56 | hardwire | throw a d in there. |
23:21.08 | darth_mall | and it's all goo again? |
23:21.10 | darth_mall | ;) |
23:21.20 | hardwire | mwa |
23:21.21 | hardwire | ha |
23:22.13 | purple_cow | argh |
23:22.29 | purple_cow | g_strsplit_set only works on a byte level |
23:33.33 | darth_mall | haha sweet |
23:44.29 | CIA-10 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9262 10teaching_boxes/web/index.html: Fix the location of the banner image. |
23:49.42 | ChipX86 | scanlime: any luck with joe? |
23:50.20 | scanlime | yeah, it was SuSE 10.0 / Linux 2.6.13 craziness |
23:50.24 | ChipX86 | hah |
23:50.25 | scanlime | gave him a workaround that fixed it |
23:50.27 | ChipX86 | it's alaways SuSE |
23:50.29 | ChipX86 | always |
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23:50.38 | ChipX86 | every single weird problem is SuSE's fault. |
23:50.43 | scanlime | well, this wasn't necessarily suse's fault.. they just happen to be the only mainstream folks using such a new kernel at this point |
23:50.50 | ChipX86 | ah. |
23:51.06 | scanlime | silly usbdevfs change in 2.6.13 |
23:51.23 | ChipX86 | :/ |
23:51.25 | scanlime | ws5.5 has a transparent workaround for it, but his beta didn't have that yet |
23:51.29 | ChipX86 | so 5.5 is going to be broken? |
23:51.30 | ChipX86 | ohh |
23:51.33 | ChipX86 | ok |
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