| 00:03.18 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2308 10galago-daemon/: Shush. |
| 00:07.28 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2309 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/avatar.c src/image.c src/photo.c): Add image.c and remove avatar.c and photo.c. |
| 00:09.39 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:09.52 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9295 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/util.c: GtkTreeSortable has undefined results if the sort function can declare two rows as equal. Work around that in the channel tree. |
| 00:20.32 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2310 10libgalago-gtk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Get rid of the different per-photo and per-avatar functions, and use GalagoImage-based functions instead. |
| 00:24.02 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2311 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Update to use the new API functions. |
| 00:25.12 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9296 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (4 files): first round of search bug fixes |
| 00:28.43 | CIA-11 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2312 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): Update to use the new API functions. |
| 00:32.51 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-131-210.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 00:34.25 | *** join/#tacobeam zak (n=zak@zero.navi.cx) |
| 00:34.49 | zak | purple_cow, darth_mall: we are cooking at the house of me tonight if you are interested |
| 00:34.54 | zak | lurgy|work: that applies to you too |
| 00:35.04 | darth_mall | so I guess that means Kendra isn't playing D&D tonight |
| 00:35.10 | zak | scanlime: checkee your email for yummy happiness! |
| 00:35.23 | purple_cow | making what? |
| 00:35.30 | zak | purple_cow: italian food |
| 00:35.45 | purple_cow | that's awfully broad |
| 00:36.29 | zak | zuppa toscana soup, garlic bread, tomato and red onion compote, a pasta (will post link, a moment please), raosted garlic, white chocolate mousse |
| 00:37.39 | zak | damn! |
| 00:37.41 | zak | lost link! |
| 00:39.20 | zak | roughly this: http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/recipe.aspx?recipeId=35856 |
| 00:42.10 | purple_cow | have fun though |
| 00:46.44 | darth_mall | this is really weird |
| 00:47.00 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 00:47.04 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 00:47.07 | scanlime | http://recipes.robbiehaf.com/B/130.htm |
| 00:47.28 | zak | excellent |
| 00:47.34 | zak | i really like that site ^_^ |
| 00:50.37 | numist | thats some thick soup |
| 00:52.01 | scanlime | maybe I'll munch on some coffee soon, now that I've removed the biology experiment from its filter :P |
| 00:52.45 | scanlime | zak: you should convince purple_cow to let you come with him to californeeea next week |
| 00:53.02 | scanlime | zak: you prolly fit under the limit for checked baggage :) |
| 00:53.23 | numist | how many people are going to the airport next week to go back to CO? |
| 00:54.05 | scanlime | next week? just me AFAIK... purple_cow leaves saturday night |
| 00:54.21 | numist | just checking... limited space in my car ;) |
| 00:54.38 | scanlime | unless zak hitches a ride here in purple_cow's luggage, then back in mine ;) |
| 00:54.44 | numist | hrm.. you guys want to join Carrie and me for Harry Potter Saturday at SF IMAX? |
| 00:54.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:54.56 | scanlime | hmmm.. which IMAX? |
| 00:55.05 | numist | well if she fits in your luggage, she'll fit in my trunk :) |
| 00:55.05 | ChipX86 | I'm seeing it with the girls when I head to Chico |
| 00:55.21 | numist | havent decided.... one that wont kill me to get to :) |
| 00:55.26 | zak | ha! |
| 00:55.30 | zak | that would be cool |
| 00:55.30 | numist | you're closer to the area than I am, got any suggestions? |
| 00:55.33 | zak | but I can't |
| 00:55.37 | scanlime | zak: =( |
| 00:55.38 | zak | :) |
| 00:55.45 | scanlime | numist: I've only been to the one in the metreon |
| 00:55.46 | zak | cya soon scanlime |
| 00:55.50 | scanlime | zak: will do :) |
| 00:55.56 | numist | scanlime: will that one do? :) |
| 00:55.57 | scanlime | =D |
| 00:55.58 | scanlime | poof! |
| 00:56.20 | scanlime | numist: it's about $15 per ticket, but the quality's decent |
| 00:56.24 | scanlime | I just hate the metreon for other reasons |
| 00:57.03 | numist | hrm |
| 00:57.52 | scanlime | I think that's the only IMAX in sf |
| 00:58.20 | scanlime | google finds one in san jose :P |
| 00:58.50 | numist | I'll be coming from marin, so no |
| 00:59.06 | scanlime | metreon might be the best bet, if you can stomach whoring yourself out to sony for a couple hours and paying $15/ticket ;) |
| 00:59.36 | numist | I can stomach it, it looks like a good movie and its something calm to do with carrie after the long drive |
| 00:59.41 | scanlime | nod |
| 00:59.47 | scanlime | well, it's an easy place to get to then |
| 00:59.48 | numist | now.. times |
| 00:59.56 | numist | gotta do it before purple_cow has to leave |
| 00:59.58 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9297 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (guir.c guir.h): remove some hopelessly out-of-date experimental stuff |
| 00:59.59 | numist | well before, preferably |
| 01:00.01 | scanlime | not sure about parking though.. I always take the train to that area of town |
| 01:00.17 | numist | we'll take carrie's car, if you guys want a lift from inside the city |
| 01:00.28 | numist | I'm not teribly fond of driving in that city |
| 01:00.29 | Veight | hehe |
| 01:00.31 | Veight | im gonna have fun |
| 01:00.37 | scanlime | well, the metreon is really close to the train station, if we take the train to SF in the morning |
| 01:00.46 | Veight | gonna be playing with 3d graphics design and stuff threw like all tonight |
| 01:00.48 | numist | ok cool |
| 01:00.56 | purple_cow | Veight: through |
| 01:01.01 | Veight | same thing |
| 01:01.01 | Veight | lol |
| 01:01.05 | numist | we can take you guys to SFO probably too, theres a BART station nearish there, iirc |
| 01:01.05 | purple_cow | no, it's not |
| 01:01.19 | purple_cow | "threw" is the past-tense conjugation of "throw" |
| 01:01.35 | purple_cow | as in "he threw the ball" |
| 01:01.37 | numist | purple_cow: pedant |
| 01:02.22 | scanlime | numist: I usually do caltrain to millbrae, bart from there to SFO |
| 01:02.34 | numist | ok |
| 01:02.39 | scanlime | but yes, that will work |
| 01:02.49 | scanlime | as long as purple_cow doesn't mind dragging luggage around all day ;) |
| 01:02.50 | numist | ok, lookin up |
| 01:02.57 | numist | we can store it in the boot |
| 01:03.40 | numist | ugh these dropdowns on imax's site are the hardest things ever for my eyes to pick out |
| 01:03.55 | numist | scanlime: she will find a way, she is insane |
| 01:03.55 | purple_cow | my flight leaves about 5pm, so i should probably be to the airport by 3 |
| 01:04.43 | numist | hrm.. closest theatre in San Francisco: Loews IMAX Theatre |
| 01:04.49 | numist | is that the metreon on? |
| 01:05.07 | numist | 101 fourth street |
| 01:05.43 | scanlime | yes |
| 01:06.05 | numist | ah yep |
| 01:06.24 | numist | wow harry potter is a 2.5hr movie |
| 01:07.07 | numist | ok, purple_cow & scanlime: times: 9:30, 11:30, 13:20? |
| 01:07.12 | numist | probably not 13:20, eh? |
| 01:07.27 | scanlime | ooh, yikess.. this sauce is stronger than I remembered it |
| 01:07.33 | scanlime | oww |
| 01:07.35 | scanlime | yum |
| 01:07.37 | numist | lil hot? |
| 01:07.46 | scanlime | yes, just right =D |
| 01:07.54 | numist | :) |
| 01:08.01 | numist | so.. 11:30 work for all parties? |
| 01:08.44 | numist | true, Id rather not wake up early, so its more purple_cow's pick since either way I have to get up before noon |
| 01:09.28 | purple_cow | 9:30 is probably best, 'cuz then there's time for lunch |
| 01:09.42 | scanlime | oh but purple_cow, there are all sorts of scenic gas stations and overpasses on the way to the theater! you'll see the most exciting parts of san francisco! :P |
| 01:10.16 | scanlime | I guess the convention center is in that area too |
| 01:10.40 | scanlime | I like lunch |
| 01:11.24 | numist | 9:30? guess I'm not sleeping friday night then |
| 01:11.37 | numist | truth about lunch |
| 01:12.00 | numist | oh hey, we have to go down to morgan hill saturday anyway, so we can take purple_cow to the airport and scanlime back home |
| 01:13.01 | scanlime | ah |
| 01:13.12 | numist | unless you guys are particularly attached to the train |
| 01:13.25 | scanlime | that works... but I don't mind taking BART and such if you'd rather not drive so far south |
| 01:13.50 | numist | welp... check out transit on getting to the metreon and I'll check with C when she answers her phone, and then we can buy |
| 01:13.59 | scanlime | well, south relative to my crazy sunnyvale coordinate system... west of 101 :P |
| 01:14.34 | numist | hehe, San Diego is so far South :P |
| 01:14.48 | scanlime | that's not what I meant ;) |
| 01:14.55 | numist | I know :) |
| 01:15.09 | numist | we have until 6:30 to get there though, and then my parents will be getting us drunk for my 21st |
| 01:15.10 | scanlime | kinda tempting though to just skip the movie and wander around sipping espresso all morning :P |
| 01:15.17 | numist | hah |
| 01:15.25 | numist | the espresso I can do without :P |
| 01:15.32 | scanlime | yeah, but you're weird like that |
| 01:16.05 | purple_cow | hmm... |
| 01:16.14 | purple_cow | i am totally about wandering about cities sipping espresso ;) |
| 01:16.20 | numist | indeed, purple_cow is the question since he's the one leaving |
| 01:16.35 | numist | well maybe I'll meet you guys on my way up like I did scanlime last time :P |
| 01:16.48 | scanlime | hehe |
| 01:17.09 | scanlime | also, I think the chances are good that I'll be seeing harry potter with my brother later that week |
| 01:17.16 | numist | hrm |
| 01:17.28 | numist | chances are good I'm seeing it saturday at the metreon either way |
| 01:17.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 01:18.26 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 01:19.03 | scanlime | especially at work.. I actually have to turn the lights on in my office sometimes now |
| 01:19.59 | scanlime | I feel sorry for the people in cubes. I think I'd go nuts dealing with nothing but fluorescent light all day |
| 01:20.17 | scanlime | it'd be like high school all over again |
| 01:20.25 | ChipX86 | http://www.seuss.org/seuss/seuss.sttng.html |
| 01:22.27 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:27.12 | numist | yay homemade sushi tonight |
| 01:31.06 | scanlime | what the... |
| 01:31.09 | scanlime | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/system/mem-week.gif |
| 01:31.32 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:31.35 | ChipX86 | ooh |
| 01:31.36 | ChipX86 | upgrade? |
| 01:31.37 | scanlime | linode changed their plans |
| 01:31.38 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:31.39 | ChipX86 | nice! |
| 01:31.43 | scanlime | linode 128 became linode 160 |
| 01:31.54 | scanlime | sweet |
| 01:32.35 | scanlime | maybe after this new CIA backend is in place, I can consolidate my two linodes into one :) |
| 01:32.39 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:32.55 | scanlime | well.. |
| 01:33.09 | scanlime | maybe after that and after I can be sure ctrlproxy won't explode :) |
| 01:34.24 | purple_cow | ctrlproxy hasn't exploded for quite some time |
| 01:34.37 | purple_cow | at least since i fixed some leaks and disabled the plugins that i couldn't fix easily |
| 01:34.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 01:36.39 | ChipX86 | hmm, I suppose I have to reboot to get my memory bumped up |
| 01:38.00 | ChipX86 | bye bye 250 day uptime |
| 01:38.47 | purple_cow | you got a 250 day uptime on linode?? |
| 01:39.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:39.24 | ChipX86 | I've never had a problem on linode |
| 01:39.31 | ChipX86 | well, none that wasn't self-inflicted |
| 01:39.52 | ChipX86 | hope things don't break when I upgrade |
| 01:39.57 | ChipX86 | er, robeot |
| 01:40.00 | ChipX86 | er, reboot. meh |
| 01:41.58 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9298 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/xchat-gnome.glade: might as well commit this part, since it won't break people's builds |
| 01:44.09 | scanlime | http://www.tubehobby.com/show_det.php?det=18 |
| 01:44.10 | scanlime | so cute! |
| 01:45.03 | purple_cow | good god that title thing is annoying |
| 01:45.27 | scanlime | yes |
| 01:45.52 | scanlime | guh, it even runs when the tab isn't current |
| 01:46.40 | scanlime | haha, they sell 7-segment VFD tubes |
| 01:47.45 | purple_cow | ooh, portage has an ebuild for the vmware 5.5 beta |
| 01:48.04 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:48.04 | scanlime | heh, wonder if it's any good |
| 01:48.08 | ChipX86 | hopefully |
| 01:48.28 | ChipX86 | 6 min uptime :( |
| 01:48.35 | ChipX86 | but 160MB of RAM, yay! |
| 01:54.21 | purple_cow | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air |
| 01:56.32 | scanlime | hehe |
| 01:59.07 | scanlime | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Air_guitar <-- Nice illustration |
| 02:02.09 | scanlime | "Don't buy air guitars that you can actually see. If you can see an air guitar, it's very, very dirty." |
| 02:03.56 | scanlime | I bet you could make a killing peddling your wares around the music school |
| 02:05.26 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:05.40 | scanlime | ugh, so tempting |
| 02:05.44 | scanlime | ubanto.org is available... |
| 02:06.35 | laodamas | yay home |
| 02:06.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :) |
| 02:07.10 | scanlime | purple_cow: all that came to mind was a big cursive font advertising the finest linux money can't buy |
| 02:07.46 | scanlime | I think "you like flapjacks!" is about as informative as any web site I'll ever make :P |
| 02:08.30 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 02:10.36 | scanlime | hmm, I should make coffee |
| 02:10.40 | scanlime | or better yet, irish coffee |
| 02:11.59 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 02:12.05 | purple_cow | /mnt/hgfs has stuff in it! |
| 02:12.35 | scanlime | neat |
| 02:14.52 | scanlime | PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "iO(ii)O(((LL)O)(iO)):graph_init",... |
| 02:15.00 | purple_cow | yow |
| 02:15.12 | scanlime | yeah... |
| 02:21.09 | purple_cow | hey look, there's an ubuntu choice in the thingy now |
| 02:22.20 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:22.25 | ChipX86 | I put it there! |
| 02:22.59 | lurgy | hgfs == home & garden filesystem? |
| 02:23.03 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 02:23.06 | scanlime | pretty much] |
| 02:23.14 | lurgy | sweet |
| 02:23.55 | lurgy | or i guess it might be the hypergalactic fs |
| 02:30.29 | laodamas | or the mercury fs |
| 02:30.39 | lurgy | also possible |
| 02:34.16 | *** join/#tacobeam file[ontrain] (n=jcolp@216.198.154.127) |
| 02:35.44 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:35.55 | scanlime | I should convince them to rename hgfs to mercuryfs |
| 02:39.20 | purple_cow | home & garden fs is better |
| 02:43.33 | scanlime | file[ontrain]: I can sympathize with IRC'ing from weird places, but do you really have to keep changing your nick? |
| 02:43.44 | ChipX86 | www.chipx86.com is pointing to the right place, despite apache's settings |
| 02:44.51 | scanlime | hm, we get paid on Tuesday |
| 02:44.59 | ChipX86 | oh cool |
| 02:45.24 | lurgy | "Aw, it's a boy.... and WHAT a boy!" |
| 02:45.35 | lurgy | "That's.. the umbilical cord. You've got a girl." |
| 02:46.41 | ChipX86 | oh oops |
| 02:56.51 | purple_cow | "by installing a booster, we can increase that capability by the order of 1 to the 4th power" |
| 02:58.27 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 03:06.19 | ChipX86 | can someone resolve chipx86.com, see what it says? |
| 03:06.37 | purple_cow | Name:chipx86.com |
| 03:06.38 | purple_cow | Address: 64.62.231.245 |
| 03:06.41 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 03:11.00 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/fidtool-grids.png |
| 03:11.14 | ChipX86 | pretty |
| 03:11.55 | scanlime | thanks. it'll be nice seeing these run on real-time data :) |
| 03:12.36 | scanlime | it's also prolly more interesting looking at individual projects, rather than an aggregate of all CIA data |
| 03:28.11 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9299 10fidtool/ (_fidtool.c test.py): Added a new system for defining grids using any iterable object. The test.py example now uses a simple generator and the datetime module to produce a day-aligned grid in the local timezone |
| 03:34.33 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 03:39.51 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9300 10motion/py/Motion/motion.c: fix save() to not write out broken AMC files. go me! |
| 03:40.01 | purple_cow | scanlime: xml dammit! |
| 03:40.12 | purple_cow | lots and lots of XML |
| 03:40.14 | scanlime | the commits are already in xml, that's the prolem :P |
| 03:40.16 | scanlime | er, problem |
| 03:40.16 | purple_cow | i want XML inside of CDATA sections! |
| 03:40.40 | scanlime | well, the problem really boils down to a compression format that works well in a ring buffer |
| 03:41.00 | scanlime | so it saves space based on similarity between items in the buffer, but doesn't break when you start blowing away old items |
| 03:46.21 | scanlime | suppose I should boot up mysqld and extract a test dataset :P |
| 03:51.23 | scanlime | go MySQL! |
| 03:51.28 | scanlime | >>> c.execute("select xml from stats_messages where target_path = 'project/gnome'") |
| 03:51.35 | scanlime | my hard disk has been churning for minutes already |
| 03:52.22 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:52.39 | scanlime | I wonder how much total hard disk space I'm wasting on that stupid <?xml version="1.0" ?> at the beginning of every commit |
| 03:53.18 | purple_cow | heh |
| 03:56.19 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 03:56.24 | purple_cow | TypeError: a class that defines __slots__ without defining __getstate__ cannot be pickled |
| 03:56.30 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:56.35 | scanlime | which class? |
| 03:56.39 | ChipX86 | yay pickle |
| 03:57.05 | scanlime | C extensions often need some special love to be pickle-happy.. |
| 03:58.34 | purple_cow | this isn't a C extension |
| 03:58.36 | purple_cow | this is graph stuff |
| 03:58.45 | purple_cow | i don't want to pickle AMC files, that's silly |
| 03:59.37 | scanlime | hah |
| 03:59.44 | scanlime | I pickled all the gnome commits in this database.. |
| 03:59.46 | scanlime | 7 megabytes |
| 04:00.06 | scanlime | gzip that.. 900k |
| 04:00.10 | scanlime | clearly some room for improvement |
| 04:00.45 | scanlime | I'm really tempted to not store the commits in XML at all |
| 04:01.04 | scanlime | provide something SAX-compatible, but use a much less verbose format on disk |
| 04:01.19 | scanlime | so commits still come into CIA in XML... and they can still be formatted using a DOM |
| 04:01.25 | scanlime | but they never actually touch the disk in XML |
| 04:03.05 | purple_cow | still usable :) |
| 04:04.27 | scanlime | hmmmmmm |
| 04:04.59 | scanlime | could have a ring buffer that stores the structure of each message, but references all strings from a separate priority queue :) |
| 04:05.14 | scanlime | every time you commit, each string that message uses would get bumped to the head of the queue |
| 04:05.21 | scanlime | if the storage fills up, old strings die |
| 04:05.53 | scanlime | strings like "message" and "CIA Email FIlters" would stick at the head of the queue pretty much all the time |
| 04:06.01 | scanlime | but it would also optimize for filenames and authors that show up often |
| 04:06.43 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:06.45 | purple_cow | ChipX86: http://pastebin.ca/28517 |
| 04:06.51 | scanlime | the trick would be making references to strings in some arbitrary storage actually be smaller than the strings themselves, consistently :P |
| 04:07.13 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 04:08.38 | purple_cow | oof |
| 04:08.40 | purple_cow | pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle <function onAdd at 0xb7bbbf7c>: it's not found as Graph.Data.onAdd |
| 04:15.08 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9301 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: fix a memory leak |
| 04:21.04 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9302 10motion/py/amc_decimator.py: save comments as well as format |
| 04:25.43 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9303 10motion/py/ (4 files in 3 dirs): seems to be pickling |
| 04:37.26 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9304 10motion/py/Graph/Data.py: deserialize properly |
| 04:37.59 | ChipX86 | Cat Soup makes most every anime I've ever seen look sane |
| 04:39.30 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9305 10motion/py/ (build_motion_graphs.py create_dot_graphs.py): split dot-printing out into a separate script, to test the graph pickling |
| 04:46.03 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9306 10motion/py/build_motion_graphs.py: make output a little more verbose, why not |
| 04:47.14 | ChipX86 | what the fuck... that movie hurts my brain |
| 04:48.01 | rioter | so i turned 21 yesterday, but i cant remeber any of i |
| 04:48.02 | rioter | t |
| 04:54.20 | purple_cow | rioter: congratulations |
| 04:54.27 | rioter | ty |
| 05:08.24 | scanlime | hmm, movie |
| 05:13.00 | scanlime | KITTY! |
| 05:13.47 | rioter | i can remeber my mum telling me not to drink the entire bottle of champagne |
| 05:13.50 | rioter | and then... |
| 05:15.16 | scanlime | that's ok, it will make a nice story when you're in the hospital dying of liver liquification |
| 05:16.00 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9307 10motion/py/ (4 files in 2 dirs): looks like it's working... |
| 05:16.27 | scanlime | hmm.. that would be a cool way to die. What if your liver turned into shape-shifting alien that could burst out of your chest at will? |
| 05:16.30 | scanlime | pow! |
| 05:16.44 | rioter | at will hey |
| 05:16.49 | scanlime | if this will happen anywhere, it will happen in australia |
| 05:17.06 | purple_cow | well, livers are like muscles, right |
| 05:17.11 | purple_cow | if you don't use them, they'll atrophy! |
| 05:17.18 | scanlime | hehe, yes |
| 05:18.23 | purple_cow | and then turn into chest-bursting aliens |
| 05:18.39 | scanlime | it's the only logical outcome, really |
| 05:26.35 | purple_cow | sweet! python's crashing |
| 05:26.43 | purple_cow | and i don't even have any C extensions in this one |
| 05:27.33 | scanlime | psyco? |
| 05:27.46 | purple_cow | nope |
| 05:29.07 | purple_cow | i explained psyco to liz and she got all hot and bothered |
| 05:29.09 | purple_cow | it was funny |
| 05:29.14 | scanlime | hah |
| 05:29.21 | scanlime | it's a very strange concept... |
| 05:31.18 | scanlime | "The TV? Are you really gonna eat it?" |
| 05:31.20 | scanlime | "Well, ya..." |
| 05:31.32 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 05:31.39 | purple_cow | crashing *really* deep inside python |
| 05:31.55 | purple_cow | #0 0xb7ef0666 in Py_GetArgcArgv () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 05:31.55 | purple_cow | #1 0xb7ef1726 in _PyObject_GC_Malloc () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 05:31.55 | purple_cow | #2 0xb7ef1755 in _PyObject_GC_New () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 05:31.55 | purple_cow | #3 0xb7e93b88 in PyTuple_Fini () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 05:31.55 | purple_cow | #4 0xb7e566ff in PyObject_GetIter () from /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 |
| 05:31.56 | purple_cow | .... |
| 05:32.19 | scanlime | huh. is this running from the usual python interpreter, or something embedded? |
| 05:32.26 | purple_cow | usual interpreter |
| 05:38.53 | purple_cow | sweeet |
| 05:38.55 | purple_cow | valgrind --tool=memcheck ./build_motion_graphs.py test.pickle male.movement2_5.AMC >& vg-out |
| 05:38.55 | purple_cow | Segmentation fault |
| 05:39.02 | purple_cow | and nothing in the output |
| 05:40.14 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9308 10motion/py/build_motion_graphs.py: i give up for tonight :( |
| 05:46.34 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9309 10motion/data/decimated-5hz/ (18 files in 2 dirs): add this data, since it's not too huge, and it will make it so darth_mall can help me debug ;-) |
| 06:02.15 | scanlime | guh |
| 06:02.25 | scanlime | this XML compression software uses the extension ".xpm" |
| 06:04.06 | scanlime | COOKING IS... LOVE! |
| 06:04.37 | scanlime | Cooking is all in the... waist! |
| 06:04.45 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:04.50 | purple_cow | been a long time since i watched that show |
| 06:06.12 | scanlime | it's a good thing all the C source files in this project are a+x |
| 06:06.30 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r335 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-url-label.c): fix a couple memory leaks |
| 06:11.22 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r336 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): another small leak |
| 06:11.59 | scanlime | Magical touch, miracle light! |
| 06:22.53 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9310 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: force notices to appear on the server "tab" |
| 06:24.38 | dooky | how is CIA's output formatted? |
| 06:24.47 | scanlime | by monkeys |
| 06:24.57 | dooky | repo name: comitter * revision filename: commit msg |
| 06:24.57 | dooky | ? |
| 06:25.00 | scanlime | they have really fancy typewriters, with IRC clients on them |
| 06:25.09 | dooky | scanlime: hot diggity damn |
| 06:25.09 | scanlime | basically, yeah |
| 06:26.00 | scanlime | http://xmlppm.sourceforge.net/paper/node5.html <-- stole my idea! |
| 06:26.08 | scanlime | though I might have to reimplement it anyway |
| 06:26.51 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:27.00 | purple_cow | once again, running out of fun bugs for xchat-gnome :P |
| 06:29.53 | purple_cow | though...hmm |
| 06:29.57 | purple_cow | should it even go in libsexy? |
| 06:34.22 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:34.27 | dooky | purple_cow: would it be a painting thingie? |
| 06:34.33 | purple_cow | no, dammit! |
| 06:34.37 | scanlime | I love this show |
| 06:34.38 | dooky | lol |
| 06:35.24 | purple_cow | dooky: look at libgnomecanvas |
| 06:35.30 | purple_cow | like that, but not crappy |
| 06:40.23 | purple_cow | scanlime, ChipX86: any opinion on an opengl-style matrix stack? |
| 06:40.32 | purple_cow | err, hmm |
| 06:40.36 | purple_cow | that's maybe too immediate a mode |
| 06:43.37 | numist | so purple_cow, you want to do an SF-roaming morning style thing next Sat? |
| 06:43.45 | purple_cow | numist: sounds good |
| 06:44.01 | numist | I think I have a plan, if scanlime doesnt have a set schedule for the day |
| 06:44.25 | purple_cow | scanlime: pokepokepoke! |
| 06:44.48 | dooky | numist: when's that 2600 again? |
| 06:45.02 | numist | Dec 2 |
| 06:45.15 | numist | starts at 5, we can go straight from work |
| 06:45.16 | dooky | eeexcellent |
| 06:45.26 | dooky | work->chipotle->2600? |
| 06:45.32 | numist | I'll probably pick some folks up from campus, if you're coming too, that makes it a lot easier to carry people |
| 06:45.38 | numist | no, 2600 provides food, its at a pizzeria |
| 06:45.42 | dooky | sweet |
| 06:45.45 | numist | Regents Pizza, find on gmaps |
| 06:45.46 | dooky | do I need to pay or smth? |
| 06:45.51 | numist | probably not |
| 06:46.04 | numist | I didnt have to put in anything, but I'm sure its appreciated to at least offer |
| 06:46.30 | dooky | in la jolla? |
| 06:47.15 | dooky | oh it's sort of by UTC |
| 06:47.26 | scanlime | purple_cow: wabawhonow? |
| 06:47.38 | purple_cow | scanlime: what do you think of gnome-canvas's scrolling API? |
| 06:47.52 | scanlime | the centering mode is stupid |
| 06:48.22 | scanlime | other than that, it seems to work ok.. you set the size of the scrollable area, then the scrolling is done with adjustment objects |
| 06:48.35 | numist | dooky: note that it is right next to campus/grad student housing at UCSD |
| 06:48.49 | dooky | how close to genessee? I might b looking at the wrong one |
| 06:48.55 | dooky | s/ b / be / |
| 06:50.39 | purple_cow | scanlime: how would you deal with the centering mode bit? |
| 06:51.04 | scanlime | just get rid of it completely |
| 06:51.16 | scanlime | if I want my canvas centered, I'll put it in an alignment box widget |
| 06:53.01 | numist | scanlime: plan proposition: morning in SF, then C and I take you guys to the airport and ditch you there when the time comes -- does that work out well for both of you, or is there a better plan to make things easier on you |
| 06:53.27 | scanlime | fine by me |
| 06:53.47 | numist | excellent, that should work then |
| 06:55.58 | purple_cow | scanlime: i'm also going to ditch the whole pixels->canvas units thing |
| 06:56.22 | purple_cow | can just set a scale on the top-level group if you want that |
| 06:57.20 | scanlime | yes |
| 06:57.40 | scanlime | that was always silly, especially since it was really just implemented as a transform on the root node |
| 07:14.45 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r337 10/branches/libsexy-canvas/: branch for potentially-crazy work on canvas :) |
| 07:17.11 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 07:17.20 | ChipX86 | so, has anyone here used flickr? |
| 07:18.13 | purple_cow | i signed up, but at the time f-spot didn't support the yahoo auth, so that's as far as i got |
| 07:18.25 | numist | ChipX86: only seen it through the eyes of themazz |
| 07:18.30 | numist | er.. themaxx, now at tmbo |
| 07:18.34 | ChipX86 | wondering if I want to set up gallery2 or use flickr |
| 07:18.44 | numist | gallery2 is hot, I say use it |
| 07:18.47 | ChipX86 | to be honest, I've never been a huge fan of gallery |
| 07:18.56 | ChipX86 | but it's been a while since I've used it |
| 07:18.59 | numist | I wasnt a fan of gallery1, but gallery2 is really good |
| 07:19.05 | numist | check out the one Ive got up if you want |
| 07:19.09 | ChipX86 | does gallery2 support tags at all? |
| 07:19.22 | numist | eh? |
| 07:19.26 | ChipX86 | hmm, f-spot has "Export to Flickr" |
| 07:19.58 | ChipX86 | numist: tagging images with text and then being able to categorize by tags |
| 07:21.13 | numist | ah, havent even looked into that I'm afraid |
| 07:24.24 | ChipX86 | I love that the gallery site's gallery is broken |
| 07:24.36 | numist | hah |
| 07:24.54 | scanlime | having a hard time making decisions about this file format... I want to just play around and see how much storage and CPU performance I get with different designs, but that's hard without low-level zlib bindings in python |
| 07:25.49 | scanlime | I guess the first thing to do is make a binary interface to python's SAX >:) |
| 07:28.19 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07libsexy * r338 10libsexy-canvas/sexy-canvas.h: start turning my API notes into some actual header files |
| 07:28.43 | purple_cow | huh |
| 07:28.51 | purple_cow | regexes look a little wrong :P |
| 07:28.58 | ChipX86 | your branching style is a bit wrong :P |
| 07:29.03 | ChipX86 | as far as my repos go |
| 07:29.10 | ChipX86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.14 | purple_cow | ChipX86: oh sorry :( |
| 07:29.21 | ChipX86 | s'ok :) |
| 07:29.24 | ChipX86 | can it be moved? |
| 07:29.34 | purple_cow | definitely |
| 07:29.36 | scanlime | everything should be a regex |
| 07:29.47 | scanlime | CIA should store commits as regexes, not XML |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r339 10/branches/libsexy/: make a branch dir for this |
| 07:29.58 | ChipX86 | scanlime: no, it should be web 2.0-compliant tags |
| 07:29.59 | ChipX86 | everything |
| 07:30.10 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 07:30.22 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r340 10/branches/ (libsexy/canvas/ libsexy-canvas/): move this into the right place |
| 07:30.41 | scanlime | ChipX86: what would you be tagging, if everything is a tag? would you be tagging tags? |
| 07:30.48 | ChipX86 | of course |
| 07:30.55 | ChipX86 | and each tag should have its own RSS feed |
| 07:30.58 | ChipX86 | and each RSS feed should be tagged |
| 07:31.10 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:32.02 | scanlime | every byte would be a tag, that gets tagged to indicate where it appears and in which files |
| 07:32.59 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r341 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas.h: add a comment with my notes, so they don't get lost |
| 07:33.01 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 07:34.34 | purple_cow | so, i need you guys to keep track of what i'm doing |
| 07:34.39 | purple_cow | so i don't do anything super boneheaded ;-) |
| 07:36.25 | scanlime | ow |
| 07:36.33 | scanlime | I think I got a piece of corn stuck in my sinuses |
| 07:36.38 | ChipX86 | owww |
| 07:36.59 | numist | ??? |
| 07:37.03 | numist | thats talent |
| 07:37.19 | scanlime | owww |
| 07:37.23 | scanlime | it came out, but that hurt :P |
| 07:37.39 | scanlime | I'm kind of glad I don't know how that happened... |
| 07:41.50 | purple_cow | silly scanlime, always sticking things in places |
| 07:48.25 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:48.29 | purple_cow | what widget to subclass... |
| 07:48.36 | ChipX86 | GtkNotebook |
| 07:48.50 | ChipX86 | or maybe GtkSpinButton |
| 07:48.57 | scanlime | GtkObject |
| 07:58.22 | scanlime | the birds in this show are so cute |
| 08:17.02 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r342 10libsexy/libsexy/ (6 files): it compiles, therefore it must work! |
| 08:17.08 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:17.38 | purple_cow | libsexy is going to get so much bigger if this works out |
| 08:18.41 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:23.06 | purple_cow | just so you know, i'm going do to the changelog thing when (if) i merge this back in |
| 08:23.12 | purple_cow | instead of having lots of garbage cl entries |
| 08:23.15 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 08:23.54 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r343 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas.c: stub out set-scroll-adjustments default handler |
| 08:24.10 | purple_cow | god i hate how scrolled window does it's thing |
| 08:24.21 | scanlime | heh |
| 08:24.29 | scanlime | you should see the scrolled window workalike I ended up writing at work |
| 08:24.42 | scanlime | actually, that'd be a neat libsexy thing... |
| 08:24.55 | purple_cow | they had the opportunity to make it an interface, and they chose not to because for some reason they wanted to not break API between 1.2 and 2.0 for that particular thing |
| 08:25.24 | purple_cow | and of course, now they're stuck with a super crappy way of having widgets implement their own scrollability |
| 08:25.43 | scanlime | eh |
| 08:25.52 | scanlime | I like how widgets can implement their own scrollability if they want to |
| 08:25.59 | scanlime | if they don't want to, that's what viewport is for |
| 08:26.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: that's not the issue |
| 08:26.11 | purple_cow | i like that to |
| 08:26.22 | purple_cow | it's just that they do it by having a set-scroll-adjustments *signal* |
| 08:26.30 | purple_cow | rather than implementing some kind of GtkScrollable interface |
| 08:26.32 | scanlime | ah, yes |
| 08:26.42 | scanlime | that's one of the reasons I ended up rewriting my own scroll window widget :) |
| 08:26.47 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:26.57 | scanlime | the other was that I needed multiple scroll bars per axis |
| 08:27.04 | scanlime | mine's kind of a scroll grid... |
| 08:27.10 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:27.24 | scanlime | it'd make sense if you saw a screenshot of my tool running in diff mode |
| 08:28.23 | scanlime | oh |
| 08:28.33 | scanlime | I found an old one, from before I fixed the scrolling :P |
| 08:28.58 | purple_cow | so scanlime... |
| 08:29.08 | purple_cow | i've got absolutely no clue what SexyCanvasModel should look like |
| 08:29.16 | purple_cow | since it was your suggestion... ;-) |
| 08:29.17 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:30.16 | scanlime | it's a tough problem that warrants some experimentation, but my first inclination would be... |
| 08:30.49 | scanlime | it answers queries for a set of canvas objects visible in a particular region, at a particular level of detail |
| 08:31.11 | scanlime | so redrawing the entire screen would mean a query for the whole screen, but you could make smaller queries for expose events, scrolling, cursor picking... |
| 08:31.43 | scanlime | this also means that the model would be responsible for flattening the scene graph |
| 08:32.40 | scanlime | I imagine the default canvas model would be some kind of in-memory quadtree thing |
| 08:40.25 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r344 10libsexy/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add a test program and implement _new() |
| 08:44.32 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:44.34 | purple_cow | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2005-August/msg00067.html |
| 08:46.42 | scanlime | hmm, multiple views |
| 08:46.47 | scanlime | that supports the separate model idea nicely :) |
| 08:47.22 | scanlime | and you could definitely implement a canvas model that generates scene graph nodes on-the-fly from some other application data structure |
| 08:47.44 | scanlime | haha |
| 08:47.49 | scanlime | I love the fight scene between guu and the bear |
| 08:49.21 | scanlime | "That night, all the houses had a marvelous feast!" |
| 08:53.33 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:53.46 | purple_cow | generating nodes on-the-fly would require some funky memory management... |
| 08:57.22 | scanlime | maybe you give the model a region specification, then the model gives you a node iterator |
| 09:02.11 | scanlime | hmm |
| 09:02.18 | scanlime | is it legal for XML elements to begin with a digit? |
| 09:02.24 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 09:03.41 | scanlime | good :) |
| 09:09.30 | purple_cow | good god |
| 09:09.32 | purple_cow | http://live.gnome.org/ProjectRidley_2fGnomeCanvas |
| 09:10.05 | purple_cow | i really hope that was written by some kid who got too excited about ridley and not by an actual gtk+ developer |
| 09:10.46 | ChipX86 | DavidBellot |
| 09:10.50 | ChipX86 | never heard of him |
| 09:11.26 | purple_cow | that seems almost as overengineered as pvh's configuration system |
| 09:12.47 | scanlime | hah |
| 09:15.37 | purple_cow | seeing things like that makes me sad :( |
| 09:17.37 | purple_cow | i suppose it's some deep-seated fear that one of these giganto systems will actually get implemented & accepted into gtk/gnome |
| 09:18.16 | scanlime | that canvas looks an awful lot like Fresco :P |
| 09:19.21 | purple_cow | haha |
| 09:19.24 | purple_cow | ZOMBIE SOFTWARE!! |
| 09:19.40 | purple_cow | it has come back from the dead, to eat our brains! |
| 09:20.24 | scanlime | =o |
| 09:29.46 | scanlime | hmm |
| 09:29.54 | scanlime | this binary SAX encoding doesn't save as much space as I'd hoped |
| 09:29.57 | scanlime | but it should be speedy |
| 09:35.46 | ChipX86 | woot! |
| 09:35.51 | ChipX86 | I finally have gnome cvs access |
| 09:36.25 | scanlime | yay! |
| 09:41.46 | scanlime | hah, I love it when the next episode previews are just completely bogus |
| 09:44.28 | scanlime | bleh |
| 09:44.43 | scanlime | nothing I've been able to do to these stupid commit messages comes even close to the space savings of just gzipping the entire database |
| 09:45.03 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 09:45.07 | scanlime | but this binary SAX encoding does cut the size about in half, and should be by far the fastest |
| 09:45.37 | scanlime | actually, binary SAX + gzip is the smallest |
| 09:45.42 | scanlime | but not that much smaller than just gzip |
| 09:46.14 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r345 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas.c: implement scrollable "interface", mostly, kinda sorta |
| 09:46.47 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yay! |
| 09:46.52 | purple_cow | i loves my gnome cvs access |
| 09:46.54 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:46.55 | purple_cow | it's all fast and up-to-date |
| 09:47.01 | ChipX86 | only took about 2 months |
| 09:47.10 | ChipX86 | guess that was partially my fault, kind of |
| 09:47.14 | scanlime | I think if I give each project a maximum buffer size of 256k and use this SAX encoding, there will be plenty of space |
| 09:47.20 | purple_cow | quick! commit a bunch of stuff! |
| 09:47.37 | scanlime | nooo, ChipX86 will fill up MySQL |
| 09:47.41 | ChipX86 | Christian Rose contacted me during the account creation process, and then turned me down, so I've been trying to deal with him, but he says he doesn't really do much account creation anymore and I should have talked to the other guys :P |
| 09:47.51 | ChipX86 | oh well |
| 09:47.53 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 09:51.27 | ChipX86 | hmm, gallery is nice |
| 09:51.31 | scanlime | CRITICAL FINAL ATTACK!!!! |
| 09:55.15 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r346 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas.c: more adjustment poop |
| 09:55.31 | purple_cow | it's a good thing i've got all this extra garbage to work on, to procrastinate any of the hard stuff |
| 09:55.39 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:56.09 | purple_cow | this is going to be absolutely huge :P |
| 09:57.45 | purple_cow | KITTY!!! |
| 09:57.49 | scanlime | =D |
| 10:07.47 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r347 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-model.h: SexyCanvasIter |
| 10:09.52 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r348 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-model.h: more stubbing |
| 10:13.08 | scanlime | "Isn't this face of yours in the wrong anime?" |
| 10:15.22 | ChipX86 | it's late again. Ugh. I shouldn't do this again |
| 10:17.03 | ChipX86 | FreeBSD: silby * ports/emulators/vmware3/ |
| 10:17.45 | scanlime | 3? |
| 10:17.53 | scanlime | emulators? |
| 10:17.54 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 10:17.56 | scanlime | FreeBSD? |
| 10:17.56 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 10:18.01 | scanlime | blah |
| 10:18.14 | ChipX86 | scanline wins! He's managed to find all three things wrong with this picture! |
| 10:18.22 | scanlime | yay, wins |
| 10:25.20 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 10:25.54 | ChipX86 | shame it can't be SexyModel |
| 10:26.01 | purple_cow | well, it *could* be |
| 10:26.04 | ChipX86 | well yeah |
| 10:26.06 | purple_cow | but that's not terribly informative |
| 10:26.09 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 10:26.40 | ChipX86 | is this the ploppable model, or the base class? |
| 10:27.36 | purple_cow | ploppable model |
| 10:27.44 | purple_cow | base class is actually an interface |
| 10:27.47 | purple_cow | much like GtkTreeModel |
| 10:28.53 | ChipX86 | given "Sexy" and "Model," there's got to be some really great name for it |
| 10:35.33 | scanlime | huh. CIA's current message database stores timestamps |
| 10:35.35 | scanlime | yet CIA never uses them |
| 10:41.31 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r349 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas.h: ws! |
| 10:42.57 | ChipX86 | "Perhaps not eating people is a first step toward making friends" |
| 10:44.49 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 10:51.50 | purple_cow | hehe, i love the iron chef nag |
| 10:58.25 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r350 10libsexy/libsexy/ (Makefile.am sexy-canvas-node.c sexy-canvas-node.h): canvas node |
| 10:59.23 | purple_cow | cool and hip |
| 11:00.32 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.32 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.38 | scanlime | heh.. it's a linked list in python |
| 11:15.25 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r351 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-node.c: start trying to figure out what properties a node will have |
| 11:15.47 | purple_cow | scene graphs are so big :( |
| 11:17.05 | scanlime | wow |
| 11:17.54 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r352 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy.h: include stuff here, why not |
| 11:17.57 | scanlime | erg, it did get late.. no more Jungle tonight |
| 11:18.26 | purple_cow | oof |
| 14:08.51 | Sophie197 | woooo |
| 14:08.57 | Sophie197 | wowowo. |
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| 17:28.26 | kergoth | gf flies home today :( |
| 17:38.16 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03micah 07cia-new-storage * r9311 10/: |
| 17:38.17 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: Branching off r9310 to start replacing CIA's MySQL backend with |
| 17:38.17 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: something more efficient. |
| 18:12.58 | Sophie197 | micah is a cool name. |
| 18:13.20 | scanlime | thanks |
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| 19:00.42 | scanlime | fucking freenode |
| 19:02.39 | dooky | scanlime: what dont you like about freenode? |
| 19:03.08 | scanlime | they keep changing the server in subtle ways that break CIA |
| 19:03.23 | dooky | ahh |
| 19:04.18 | scanlime | and this guy in #cia is pissing me off already. I'm not in the mood for people to take 25 lines of punctuation to get to the point |
| 19:04.56 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 19:04.59 | darth_mall | let's murder him |
| 19:05.03 | darth_mall | murdering people is fun |
| 19:06.08 | scanlime | took fucking forever to find out that he had that stupid channel mode set where only identified users could join |
| 19:06.18 | scanlime | after it took about 10 lines of garbage just to find out he wanted a CIA bot |
| 19:06.42 | scanlime | ok, I'm exaggerating a tiny bit, but it was still getting on my nerves |
| 19:07.03 | scanlime | I hate it when people just type lines like "?", "hello?", and "are you there?" if you don't respond within 10 seconds |
| 19:07.13 | scanlime | I go to get some breakfast and come back to a novel |
| 19:17.26 | scanlime | sigh |
| 19:18.00 | darth_mall | mm... novel |
| 19:21.21 | scanlime | hah |
| 19:21.24 | scanlime | scanlime is it in your hooks directory? marked executable? did you add the line to post-commit? is post-commit executable, and readable by the process running svn? |
| 19:21.24 | scanlime | kbrooks scanlime: not executable. i put +x on |
| 19:21.24 | scanlime | kbrooks scanlime: stupid me ... :/ |
| 19:21.24 | scanlime | kbrooks i should have READ THE HELPFUL COMMENTS |
| 19:21.24 | scanlime | kbrooks god damn it |
| 19:21.26 | scanlime | kbrooks :P |
| 19:21.41 | scanlime | damnit.. xchat needs to include the <> when I copy text from it |
| 19:22.06 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:27.28 | darth_mall | naughty xchat |
| 19:52.30 | darth_mall | hmm... looks like hibernating might not be very healthy for my wireless connectino |
| 19:53.05 | dooky | darth_mall: hibernating kills all connections on my powerbook |
| 19:53.05 | dooky | :( |
| 19:54.08 | darth_mall | it's amazing the things you get around to doing when you're avoiding work |
| 19:54.39 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:56.57 | darth_mall | hmm... yeah... I think hibernating really made my computer sad |
| 19:57.33 | darth_mall | but at least it's working better than a year or two ago ^^ |
| 20:04.34 | darth_mall | heh... I'd kind of forgotten how much fun Corn Mo is ^^ |
| 20:08.36 | scanlime | :) |
| 20:08.49 | scanlime | I was really disappointed when he wasn't there Friday night |
| 20:08.54 | scanlime | but his show Thursday was great |
| 20:13.51 | kergoth | gf is gone :( |
| 20:13.54 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 20:14.02 | ChipX86 | what happened? |
| 20:14.58 | kergoth | she took her flight home :) |
| 20:15.01 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 20:15.34 | darth_mall | apparently my laptop doesn't like being suspended more than once |
| 20:20.40 | darth_mall | I really should stop messing with this nonsense |
| 20:25.06 | purple_cow | darth_mall: ./build_motion_graphs.py test.pickle ../data/decimated-5hz/david-capps/*.amc ;-) |
| 20:25.32 | darth_mall | does it work, or are you telling me to fix it? ^^ |
| 20:25.52 | purple_cow | that's what i want you to figure out ;) |
| 20:25.59 | purple_cow | python is segfaulting on me |
| 20:26.08 | purple_cow | and there are no C extensions here |
| 20:26.24 | purple_cow | if it works for you, hurray! can i have the pickle? :) |
| 20:28.55 | darth_mall | grr... I can't find where on qwest.net it tells me what the DNS servers are |
| 20:30.24 | purple_cow | darth_mall: same place it tells you your static IP |
| 20:31.14 | darth_mall | I don't see it there |
| 20:31.56 | purple_cow | probably: |
| 20:31.57 | purple_cow | nameserver 205.171.3.65 |
| 20:31.57 | purple_cow | nameserver 205.171.2.65 |
| 20:32.06 | darth_mall | I see my IP and the subnet mask |
| 20:32.11 | purple_cow | darth_mall: weird |
| 20:32.20 | darth_mall | and options for deleting the block, or changing the size |
| 20:32.46 | purple_cow | have they been charging you for yours? |
| 20:33.00 | purple_cow | afaict i've never paid for mine |
| 20:33.14 | darth_mall | dunno |
| 20:33.20 | darth_mall | Kyle gets the bill and tells me what I owe him |
| 20:35.42 | darth_mall | grr... where on here does it tell me where my qwest e-mail is |
| 20:36.49 | darth_mall | I hate you qwest |
| 20:37.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: you may not actually have a qwest e-mail address |
| 20:37.29 | darth_mall | I'm supposed to |
| 20:37.33 | darth_mall | it comes with the account |
| 20:37.36 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:37.49 | darth_mall | and their website said that's where they sent the DNS servers to when I set up the static IP |
| 20:37.54 | darth_mall | so I'd better have one |
| 20:38.02 | purple_cow | tried the two i pasted? |
| 20:38.07 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 20:38.19 | darth_mall | but I'd still like to know where to find it on their crappy website |
| 20:38.50 | darth_mall | it is somewhat impressive how important the internet is to our lives, and yet so few people actually make navigable websites |
| 20:41.15 | dooky | hey guys, what's the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome? |
| 20:41.38 | purple_cow | xchat sucks ;) |
| 20:41.57 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 20:42.01 | dooky | lol |
| 20:42.03 | darth_mall | it's funny because it's true |
| 20:42.11 | darth_mall | dooky: x-g will rock your world |
| 20:42.13 | darth_mall | I decree it to be so |
| 20:43.18 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 20:43.24 | darth_mall | I think I fixed hibernate on my laptop |
| 20:43.32 | darth_mall | just have to unload and reload all the modules |
| 20:44.15 | dooky | much sexier :O |
| 20:44.30 | ChipX86 | get libsexy |
| 20:44.36 | dooky | original xchat sucked so bad, that I was like "irssi time" |
| 20:45.03 | purple_cow | and if possible, get xchat-gnome SVN ;) |
| 20:45.13 | purple_cow | it is so much cooler than 0.6 |
| 20:46.26 | darth_mall | so... did libsexy fix wrapping in the labels, or is that actually working in gtk now? |
| 20:46.44 | ChipX86 | libsexy |
| 20:46.49 | darth_mall | thought so |
| 20:47.14 | ChipX86 | borrowed from libview |
| 20:47.33 | dooky | does libsexy use any of the cairo stuff with gtk? |
| 20:47.41 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 20:47.44 | purple_cow | ChipX86: thought you were going to port that to gtk ;) |
| 20:47.49 | ChipX86 | I will |
| 20:48.06 | ChipX86 | it still has a couple bad bugs |
| 20:50.14 | dooky | purple_cow: so does xchat-gnome use the backend stuff from xchat |
| 20:50.19 | purple_cow | yes |
| 20:50.22 | dooky | and just have new frontend stuff |
| 20:50.26 | dooky | neat. |
| 20:52.31 | dooky | does it support plugins? |
| 20:53.10 | darth_mall | yes |
| 20:53.30 | darth_mall | wow... so I'm getting a segfault when the script tries to create a pickle... |
| 20:53.35 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is it pickling the graph? |
| 20:53.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: ok, same problem :( |
| 20:53.57 | purple_cow | it *should* be pickling the graph |
| 20:54.04 | darth_mall | this is weird |
| 20:54.05 | purple_cow | but it crashes deep inside python while writing out the file |
| 20:55.00 | darth_mall | on a completely unrelated note: I love the version of Orestes on the Judith single ^^ |
| 20:56.29 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 20:56.35 | purple_cow | i really don't want to disappoint liz :( |
| 20:58.17 | scanlime | wowie |
| 20:58.22 | scanlime | 300 commits in about 60k |
| 21:02.25 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9312 10xchat-gnome/plugins/autoaway/ (8 files): import autoaway plugin |
| 21:04.33 | hardwire | taco |
| 21:04.40 | hardwire | I wish I had a vehicle today |
| 21:04.41 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9313 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: include plugin in the build system |
| 21:04.44 | hardwire | I would have a taco then |
| 21:07.12 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 21:08.10 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you don't suppose the problem is just that the graphs are too big, do you? |
| 21:08.22 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i don't think so |
| 21:08.40 | purple_cow | i get a segfault pickling small graphs, just after the file has finished flushing |
| 21:09.12 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 21:09.20 | scanlime | are you using pickle or cpickle? |
| 21:09.41 | scanlime | you might try turning off the cycle collector, to narrow down the problem |
| 21:10.29 | ChipX86 | what is pickling? |
| 21:10.39 | scanlime | serialization |
| 21:10.41 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 21:11.12 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9314 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: whoops |
| 21:11.17 | purple_cow | scanlime: pickle |
| 21:11.22 | purple_cow | scanlime: cycle collector? |
| 21:12.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: part of python's garbage collector.. check the gc module |
| 21:12.14 | scanlime | purple_cow: your crash was inside a __del__ method.. so it happened during garbage collection |
| 21:12.46 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 21:13.57 | scanlime | I wonder if this squirrel is pregnant or just really well fed... |
| 21:14.17 | ChipX86 | maybe both! |
| 21:14.56 | darth_mall | hahaha |
| 21:15.06 | darth_mall | so my brother just gave me this "support our troops" bracelet |
| 21:15.12 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9315 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (ChangeLog about.c): add Isak Savo to ChangeLog and authors |
| 21:15.23 | darth_mall | it's like the livestrong bracelets but a putrid shade of green instead of a hideously bright yellow |
| 21:15.33 | darth_mall | and on the inside of the bracelet it says "Made in China" |
| 21:15.36 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:15.38 | ChipX86 | man, the gradient tool in the newer inkscapes rocks |
| 21:15.54 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: haha |
| 21:17.28 | purple_cow | yes you should |
| 21:17.29 | purple_cow | RIGHT NOW |
| 21:17.40 | darth_mall | funny you should say that... as I just put it on inside out ^^ |
| 21:20.45 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9316 10motion/py/build_motion_graphs.py: turn off the garbage collector before pickling the graph. this postpones the segfault until the very end of execution, after the file has flushed |
| 21:22.15 | ChipX86 | as basic as it is |
| 21:23.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that's really weird |
| 21:24.02 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah |
| 21:24.38 | darth_mall | I blame communist China |
| 21:24.39 | JayPee | forms forms forms forms forms |
| 21:24.41 | JayPee | whee forms |
| 21:24.58 | ChipX86 | it's a JayPee! |
| 21:25.11 | JayPee | A JayPee who's going to break a ton of shit tonight! |
| 21:25.31 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9317 10motion/py/shuffle-interpolate.py: make this use a pickled graph rather than building it fresh. this way we start the graph search with only a few megs of RAM used rather than several hundred megs |
| 21:26.05 | ChipX86 | hmm now there's an interesting e-mail |
| 21:26.16 | ChipX86 | From: System Administrator <admin@northstar.homedns.org> |
| 21:26.19 | ChipX86 | Subject: Hi! |
| 21:26.22 | ChipX86 | and it's not auto-generated |
| 21:27.01 | purple_cow | welp, it gets one more step and about a minute further before starting to swap like hell... |
| 21:27.08 | purple_cow | darth_mall: how much RAM do you have on your desktop? :) |
| 21:27.25 | darth_mall | a gig, but I can't run any of these on my desktops |
| 21:27.47 | darth_mall | I suspect something (possibly Numeric) doesn't like the 64-bit processor |
| 21:27.52 | purple_cow | oh right, numeric crashes? |
| 21:28.06 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 21:28.24 | darth_mall | I don't remember exactly, let me 7up on here and run it again in gdb |
| 21:28.41 | darth_mall | I do remember that it looked like Numeric was a problem when reading the AMC files |
| 21:28.47 | scanlime | yay, it's like a ring buffer full of compressed SAX events |
| 21:29.07 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 21:34.23 | ChipX86 | tilt wheels rock |
| 21:40.52 | ChipX86 | my god.. |
| 21:41.04 | ChipX86 | the whole idiocy that Sean ensued has just become a lot more funny |
| 21:41.10 | ChipX86 | what he put in isn't compatible with the GPL |
| 21:43.40 | dooky | ChipX86: how is it not gpl compat? |
| 21:43.58 | ChipX86 | because it's using a license not compatible with the GPL |
| 21:47.57 | JayPee | oh, awesome. |
| 21:48.51 | ChipX86 | good thing the project is run by a competent lead developer |
| 21:49.05 | ChipX86 | who half the project is now comspiring against |
| 21:49.29 | JayPee | wonderful, that |
| 21:58.54 | dooky | ChipX86: oh, more people dislike sean now? |
| 21:59.04 | dooky | I thought it was just a few right after the commit |
| 21:59.52 | purple_cow | welp, no OOM, but not much progress |
| 22:00.07 | purple_cow | and for some reason, it's not spitting stuff to stdout at all if i pipe it or redirect output :P |
| 22:00.46 | purple_cow | wowie, a response from brita |
| 22:00.56 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 22:00.59 | darth_mall | nothing good can come of that |
| 22:01.14 | purple_cow | i was about to email her again, too |
| 22:04.45 | ChipX86 | dooky: people have disliked Sean for a long time. He's a very poor project leader and not easy to get along with |
| 22:05.21 | darth_mall | but that's ok, because ChipX86 rocks! |
| 22:05.22 | dooky | ChipX86: oh, I see |
| 22:05.37 | dooky | were / are you a lead dev? |
| 22:05.44 | ChipX86 | dooky: I wrote most of what gaim is today |
| 22:06.01 | ChipX86 | which is why I've been somewhat pushed out of the project :) I damaged Sean's fragile little ego |
| 22:06.04 | dooky | oh wow |
| 22:06.19 | ChipX86 | people thought I was the lead developer, and he couldn't handle that |
| 22:06.34 | ChipX86 | anyhow.. |
| 22:06.41 | ChipX86 | I'm on to bigger and better things |
| 22:06.41 | purple_cow | swappyswappyswappy |
| 22:06.45 | dooky | well I hope th eproject doesn't go downhill |
| 22:06.54 | ChipX86 | it is, it will, and it has been |
| 22:06.55 | dooky | it was/is really kickass |
| 22:07.07 | ChipX86 | there are better things in the works anyway |
| 22:07.13 | dooky | ChipX86: telepathy? |
| 22:07.18 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 22:07.34 | dooky | is that also a multiprotocol chat client? |
| 22:07.54 | ChipX86 | it's a desktop-level framework for doing IM |
| 22:08.05 | ChipX86 | so you move all the connection code and abstraction interface to a single place that anything can talk to |
| 22:08.12 | ChipX86 | one login, multiple ways of interacting with it |
| 22:08.15 | TD | heh |
| 22:08.26 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:08.36 | dooky | hmph, cool |
| 22:08.38 | TD | oh well. it was Robot101 who complained last time, even if it wasn't this time |
| 22:08.41 | ChipX86 | TD: you saw the whole thing with gaim the other day, right? |
| 22:08.43 | TD | the whole project can go to hell |
| 22:08.50 | TD | yeah about linphone vs gstreamer, google etc |
| 22:08.53 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:08.58 | TD | i've been watching the gaim list as i was trying to get my patch in |
| 22:09.08 | ChipX86 | well it turns out what Sean committed uses a required dependency that is incompatible with the GPL |
| 22:09.16 | TD | i can't *believe* they were so incompetent as to commit it, then BACK IT OUT because some random guy spouted off in a chatroom |
| 22:09.20 | TD | hah |
| 22:09.25 | TD | this surprises me .... not a bit |
| 22:09.38 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:09.42 | dooky | ChipX86: which dep is incompatible? |
| 22:09.49 | ChipX86 | some library for the protocol |
| 22:09.49 | TD | linphone i'd imagine. what license is it? |
| 22:09.58 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 22:10.03 | ChipX86 | I was just reading part of the thread |
| 22:10.06 | TD | ah well. whatever. |
| 22:10.07 | JayPee | ChipX86: I'm thinking of hosting a hacking party tonight, if people are interested |
| 22:10.17 | TD | these guys can't even get stuff as basic as weak linking against a spell checking library right |
| 22:10.20 | JayPee | (I'll be here, deploying forms all evening regardless) |
| 22:10.34 | ChipX86 | JayPee: I can't. I really need to sleep tonight. I completely screwed up my sleeping schedule and have been waking up at 1 every day |
| 22:10.37 | TD | there is no hope for commercial-level software development in the linux space, i grow more convinced of this all the time |
| 22:10.51 | TD | ChipX86: haha, welcome to my hell. "whoops? i missed lunch again?" |
| 22:10.52 | darth_mall | oh wow |
| 22:10.56 | darth_mall | Paranoia Agent is sooooo good |
| 22:11.10 | JayPee | ChipX86: haha |
| 22:11.11 | purple_cow | :) |
| 22:11.17 | purple_cow | what episode are you on? |
| 22:11.18 | JayPee | well, I was thinking something earlier anyway |
| 22:11.21 | JayPee | 7 to 11 or something. |
| 22:11.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: only one left |
| 22:12.02 | darth_mall | will probably finish it tonight |
| 22:12.04 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:12.07 | purple_cow | the ending will blow your mind |
| 22:12.13 | darth_mall | right now I must resist the urge to take a nap |
| 22:15.41 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9318 10motion/py/ (Graph/ExtraAlgorithms.py shuffle-interpolate.py): try to make things a little faster. not much luck so far though |
| 22:18.53 | dooky | what's motion? |
| 22:19.02 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so as far as I can tell, the problem running on my AMD64 is that in AMC_dealloc the pointer to the bones dictionary is invalid... http://pastebin.ca/28610 |
| 22:19.05 | ChipX86 | dooky: movement |
| 22:19.05 | purple_cow | dooky: darth_mall & i's work |
| 22:19.13 | darth_mall | it's all chaoticy |
| 22:19.18 | dooky | ChipX86: ;) |
| 22:19.22 | dooky | purple_cow: what's it do? |
| 22:19.30 | darth_mall | dances |
| 22:19.33 | purple_cow | dooky: use up lots and lots and lots of RAM |
| 22:19.38 | ChipX86 | wtf |
| 22:19.41 | darth_mall | and segfaults pythong |
| 22:19.43 | ChipX86 | why is gaim bundling GtkComboBox |
| 22:19.45 | darth_mall | erm... python |
| 22:19.53 | darth_mall | haven't made that typo in a long time |
| 22:20.22 | TD | ChipX86: probably so it doesn't depend on the gtk release when it was introduced. and they hate weak linking remember |
| 22:20.30 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 22:20.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: huh, crazy |
| 22:20.41 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 22:20.42 | ChipX86 | this is a newish thing |
| 22:20.46 | darth_mall | I don't pretend to understand |
| 22:20.46 | ChipX86 | we didn't have that when I was coding gaim |
| 22:20.47 | purple_cow | i wonder if there's maybe still some refcounting problems with that array =/ |
| 22:22.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: care to try to figure out graph search? i get the feeling it's not behaving quite right (as in "using lots more memory than it should"), but i don't see any reasons why |
| 22:22.43 | darth_mall | I can |
| 22:23.15 | TD | this whole thing is insane |
| 22:23.27 | TD | "we should make it harder to install the autopackage, so the debian packagers don't have to track dependencies" |
| 22:23.27 | darth_mall | purple_cow: we said we were going to e-mail each other our notes for the presentation, didn't we? |
| 22:23.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: right |
| 22:23.37 | TD | and then, of course, how could he not add |
| 22:23.41 | darth_mall | ok, I should do that |
| 22:23.45 | TD | <Robot101> it works exceptionally well, and allows mixing of packages between debian releases and even |
| 22:23.45 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.55 | TD | the obligitary "DEBIAN OWNS YOUR BASE!!!" |
| 22:23.57 | purple_cow | darth_mall: fyi, i think you don't need to talk much about the benefits of our UI choices |
| 22:24.02 | purple_cow | i can explain that during the demo |
| 22:24.07 | darth_mall | right |
| 22:24.12 | darth_mall | I didn't have much about that in there |
| 22:24.16 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:24.16 | TD | i swear, the world would be a better place if debian had never existed |
| 22:24.26 | darth_mall | just a brief description of what those mock-ups were |
| 22:24.26 | purple_cow | TD: agreed |
| 22:25.33 | TD | ChipX86: file:///home/mike/Documents/Capoeria/template.html |
| 22:25.34 | TD | oops |
| 22:26.02 | ChipX86 | hmm can't seem to access that! |
| 22:27.10 | TD | ;) |
| 22:29.58 | scanlime | grarr |
| 22:30.21 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:30.26 | purple_cow | i'm still giggling about zombie software |
| 22:30.52 | scanlime | takes this thing 3 milliseconds to get one commit from compressed ring buffer to DOM |
| 22:30.57 | scanlime | tooo long |
| 22:31.26 | TD | ChipX86: http://plan99.net/~mike/capoeira/template.html |
| 22:31.40 | scanlime | maybe this will need to become a C extension eventually |
| 22:32.30 | TD | ChipX86: what do you think? all done in inkscape+gimp |
| 22:32.50 | darth_mall | oooh... lookit that crazy jumping monkeyness |
| 22:32.54 | darth_mall | TD: you play capoeira? |
| 22:32.59 | TD | yeah. just started. |
| 22:33.11 | purple_cow | cool |
| 22:33.12 | TD | not very good yet :) |
| 22:33.22 | TD | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4394529368533955692&q=capoeira |
| 22:33.29 | ChipX86 | TD: just a bit too dark a blue, I think, but then I've got a pretty big headache that's causing lots of colors to bother me :) |
| 22:33.45 | TD | yeah |
| 22:33.53 | scanlime | I like this blue |
| 22:34.00 | scanlime | the slowness of ord() is giving me a headache |
| 22:34.21 | ChipX86 | ok, probably my headache then |
| 22:34.35 | darth_mall | TD: http://www.colorado.edu/StudentGroups/CapoeiraAngola/ |
| 22:34.40 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 22:34.47 | purple_cow | some of those guys have seen too many tricking videos |
| 22:35.11 | TD | i'm not really sure about the colour scheme. i've tweaked it a million times, maybe it should be scrapped in favour of something else |
| 22:35.11 | TD | i quite like the white on ??? thing. |
| 22:35.11 | TD | but it could be any colour |
| 22:35.25 | TD | yeah :) |
| 22:35.54 | TD | darth_mall: awesome, you do it too? |
| 22:36.03 | darth_mall | not regional, but angola |
| 22:36.46 | TD | yeah, ok |
| 22:36.46 | TD | heh, you have the same class times as us almost |
| 22:36.52 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 22:38.42 | darth_mall | man I hate mozilla's profile |
| 22:46.11 | darth_mall | heh |
| 22:47.49 | darth_mall | ow |
| 22:48.40 | ChipX86 | why must it torment me |
| 22:49.23 | TD | i hope so |
| 22:49.30 | TD | ChipX86: heh. i think every web designer has thought that |
| 22:49.36 | TD | CSS *looks* simple. it looks easy. so why is it not? |
| 22:49.38 | ChipX86 | it's so badly designed |
| 22:49.51 | ChipX86 | it's great on paper but in practice it sucks remarkably |
| 22:51.36 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 22:51.51 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03micah 07cia-new-storage * r9319 10/LibCIA/Stats/Messages.py: |
| 22:51.51 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: Adding a module that implements a file format optimized for CIA's commit messages. It stores a bounded amount of recent message data using an indexed |
| 22:51.51 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: ring buffer of compressed SAX events. |
| 22:52.33 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, i'm not happy right now :( |
| 22:52.59 | TD | ChipX86: i think only a few parts are badly designed, but the parts that are bad hurt a lot |
| 22:53.12 | TD | the syntax is quite nice |
| 22:53.17 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:53.20 | TD | the text attributes and stuff aren't too hard |
| 22:53.24 | TD | it's the flipping BOX MODEL that gets me |
| 22:53.27 | ChipX86 | (though inconsistent) |
| 22:53.27 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:53.30 | TD | every time |
| 22:53.47 | darth_mall | whoa... that was weird |
| 22:53.59 | darth_mall | suddenly nofication-daemon started eating my CPU |
| 22:54.08 | ChipX86 | lies! |
| 22:57.09 | pfault | MAN |
| 22:57.10 | pfault | err |
| 22:57.11 | pfault | man |
| 22:57.15 | pfault | man |
| 22:57.20 | pfault | I have so much honour this weekend in WoW |
| 22:57.20 | darth_mall | I think I'll take a walk over to Safeway in the hopes of clearing my head a bit |
| 23:04.09 | TD | darth_mall: did you get a backtrace? |
| 23:08.54 | ChipX86 | I should play WoW sometime |
| 23:11.25 | CIA-11 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9320 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: some feedback when the search string isn't found |
| 23:13.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: thats what i'm thinking about doing.. not really in the mood for it, but if i start playing, maybe i will be. heh. bored. |
| 23:13.49 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 23:13.57 | ChipX86 | I'll play it more I think when the expansion comes out |
| 23:14.01 | ChipX86 | just been doing a lot of other things |
| 23:14.24 | kergoth | i'd like to hit 60 though :) |
| 23:14.24 | scanlime | hah, mythtv is on CIA |
| 23:14.30 | kergoth | do some bigger instances |
| 23:14.40 | scanlime | I think I remember trying to get them on CIA back when I used them, and they refused |
| 23:14.55 | kergoth | hwh |
| 23:14.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:15.09 | ChipX86 | kergoth: that's been my problem. Nobody I know is around my level, and I hate working with other people, because a lot of the time they manage to be quite incompetent |
| 23:15.37 | kergoth | ChipX86: yeah, thats my problem too. i'm thinking about either dissolving the guild, or merging with someone else |
| 23:15.44 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 23:15.49 | kergoth | then we'd have guildies to play with, rather than idiots we get via LFG |
| 23:15.58 | kergoth | i like naked and famous though, so maybe we can absorb another small guild |
| 23:16.05 | kergoth | you know they'll want our name :) |
| 23:16.06 | ChipX86 | is Cae's guild alliance? |
| 23:16.10 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:16.15 | kergoth | mostly, but they have a horde side too |
| 23:16.20 | TD | i would try wow if it didn't cost $50. i mean, how will i know i like it? i don't mind paying a bit for a few week trial |
| 23:16.24 | kergoth | dunno if they actually play it though |
| 23:16.44 | kergoth | TD: find someone who owns it. they get a 10 day free trial they can give to you, and use their cds to install it |
| 23:17.09 | file[laptop] | neat... navicat for postgresql |
| 23:17.48 | TD | i don't think anybody around here plays it |
| 23:18.06 | TD | anyway, i'm forgetting. my machine is unlikely to be good enough to run it |
| 23:18.10 | kergoth | :( |
| 23:18.13 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:18.15 | TD | i need to buy a new box |
| 23:18.26 | TD | this one is old, creaky, and linux has partly self destructed and needs a re-install |
| 23:19.20 | kergoth | my bios on this box is fucked |
| 23:19.26 | kergoth | i went in to check some settings right |
| 23:19.35 | kergoth | next thing i know i've got screen corruption scrolling through a list |
| 23:19.38 | kergoth | and get a spontanious reboot |
| 23:19.42 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:19.43 | kergoth | i expect windows to be crashy.. |
| 23:19.46 | kergoth | i dont expect my bios to be |
| 23:19.47 | kergoth | :( |
| 23:22.23 | ChipX86 | yay for having two MX1000s. The battery was near dead on this one :) |
| 23:24.13 | ChipX86 | woops |
| 23:24.21 | ChipX86 | I fell off Planet GNOME |
| 23:24.35 | ChipX86 | forgot to move my blog over |
| 23:33.47 | ChipX86 | who here uses Wordpress? |
| 23:35.24 | ChipX86 | have you ever imported from Movable Type? |
| 23:36.07 | purple_cow | nope |
| 23:36.10 | darth_mall | arg |
| 23:36.13 | darth_mall | what the hell |
| 23:36.23 | darth_mall | the graph building is now taking longer even though i'm doing fewer files |
| 23:36.24 | kergoth | woot, yay for the new ati fglrx drivers |
| 23:36.34 | kergoth | fixed a bunch of my issues |
| 23:36.56 | *** join/#tacobeam Laser_Dolphin (n=Laser_Do@c-24-8-193-62.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 23:37.35 | Laser_Dolphin | is darth_mall here? |
| 23:41.25 | numist | he is watching, idle 2 minutes |
| 23:42.39 | darth_mall | ugh... I just want to give up on this >< |
| 23:42.53 | Laser_Dolphin | darth_mall, What you be working on? |
| 23:48.47 | ChipX86 | hmm wordpress is nice |
| 23:48.58 | numist | I like it |
| 23:50.33 | ChipX86 | I wanted to like MovableType enough to stick with it |
| 23:51.04 | dooky | wordpress is amaaaazing |
| 23:53.44 | scanlime | wordpress is for sissies |
| 23:53.49 | scanlime | cat > blog.xml |
| 23:53.52 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:53.53 | numist | yep |
| 23:53.55 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:53.58 | numist | raw text tw |
| 23:54.01 | numist | ftw* |
| 23:54.07 | ChipX86 | the rss feed, html summary, and individual entries should all be hand-editted |
| 23:54.21 | scanlime | as should be the .html.gz |
| 23:54.27 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 23:54.36 | CIA-11 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter * r353 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-spell-entry.c): don't crash in populate_popup if the entry is empty |
| 23:54.44 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 23:54.55 | scanlime | I mean, my day just isn't complete unless I have to write compressed data by hand |
| 23:56.26 | ChipX86 | ooh the importer is nice |
| 23:56.38 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/blog/ |
| 23:56.41 | ChipX86 | that was so painless |
| 23:57.09 | ChipX86 | upload a file, edit a file to reference it, click a button, choose the From and To username, press a button, done |
| 23:57.13 | numist | hey, chippy is using the same theme as me >_> |
| 23:57.20 | ChipX86 | default |
| 23:57.23 | numist | but without my fancy comments-on-index :P |
| 23:57.30 | numist | I spent 5 minutes to hack mine up a bit |
| 23:57.33 | dooky | I need something to read |
| 23:57.34 | file[laptop] | ChippyHippyLog? |
| 23:57.34 | dooky | :/ |
| 23:57.40 | numist | dooky: read http://www.chipx86.com/blog/ |
| 23:57.48 | ChipX86 | I'm going to integrate it with the theme I'm doing for all the stuffs on my site |
| 23:57.55 | ChipX86 | the blog, the gallery, and the wiki |
| 23:58.01 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:58.10 | numist | ChipX86: make sure to get the captchya wordpress plugin |
| 23:58.14 | purple_cow | too much work to create my own |
| 23:58.14 | ChipX86 | going to |
| 23:58.17 | numist | :) |
