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`02:53.30`	`Tryblithe`	`roar`
`02:53.38`	`Tryblithe`	`where's everyone?`
`03:12.01`	`Tryblithe`	`-_-`
`03:12.04`	`Tryblithe`	`roar`
`03:12.07`	`Tryblithe`	`lol`
`03:12.09`	`Tryblithe`	`eeveyrone's gone`
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`04:51.24`	`RyanF`	`finally got home...`
`04:51.36`	`RyanF`	`our plane was delayed 2 hours..`
`04:51.58`	`RyanF`	`then we had to redirect to pitsburg for emergency landing b/c we ran out of gas..`
`04:52.11`	`RyanF`	`sat on the ground for 2 more hours`
`04:52.37`	`RyanF`	`finally got back at 12:30am instead of 7pm...`
`05:08.16`	`*** join/#tfp nick125 (nick@nick125.user)`
`05:09.35`	`swoolley`	`nick125: do you like the who?`
`05:10.12`	`trochej`	`ha!`
`05:10.25`	`swoolley`	`trochej: what's so funny?`
`05:10.59`	`swoolley`	`The Who - Baba O'Riley is a good song, I tell you`
`05:11.09`	`nick125`	`swoolley: havent heard it`
`05:11.12`	`swoolley`	`swoolley.org/who-babaoriley.mp3`
`05:11.29`	`swoolley`	`remember to delete it after listening to it`
`05:11.54`	`swoolley`	`1971`
`05:12.02`	`trochej`	`not funny`
`05:12.09`	`swoolley`	`trochej: what's not funny?`
`05:12.23`	`trochej`	`it was an exclamation of utter satisfaction`
`05:12.37`	`swoolley`	`ahh`
`05:12.44`	`trochej`	`I got an answer from our ISP to my e-mail`
`05:12.50`	`swoolley`	`and?`
`05:12.50`	`trochej`	`after only twoo weeks`
`05:12.54`	`trochej`	`hehehe`
`05:13.03`	`swoolley`	`I send emails and often don't get responses`
`05:13.11`	`swoolley`	`it's typically when I tell them their website is insecure`
`05:13.27`	`swoolley`	`I left a phone message a couple days ago, emailed also`
`05:13.32`	`trochej`	`swoolley: but we pay for 2Mbit full duplex frame relay`
`05:13.44`	`trochej`	`it's not $50 per month either`
`05:13.49`	`swoolley`	`trochej: not a t-1?`
`05:13.56`	`swoolley`	`trochej: partial t-3?`
`05:14.24`	`trochej`	`swoolley: I do what my, not always wisiest, managemens syas to do`
`05:14.41`	`trochej`	`swoolley: I am only a lowly technician`
`05:14.43`	`trochej`	`:)`
`05:14.52`	`trochej`	`and I compile kernels`
`05:14.54`	`swoolley`	`you could get two 1mbit dsl lines and get faster more redundant network`
`05:15.13`	`trochej`	`swoolley: nope`
`05:15.33`	`trochej`	`swoolley: in Poland it's either asynchronous DSL, with 2Mbit down, 256Kbit up`
`05:15.35`	`trochej`	`or FR`
`05:15.40`	`trochej`	`wel`
`05:15.42`	`swoolley`	`heh`
`05:15.51`	`swoolley`	`well, I guess you need FR then`
`05:16.00`	`swoolley`	`because 256x8 would be about the same`
`05:16.09`	`trochej`	`swoolley: for 15 years now we haven't managed to treat our monopolist telecomunication company :)`
`05:16.17`	`trochej`	`swoolley: yup :)`
`05:16.31`	`trochej`	`instead, it treats us :)`
`05:16.57`	`swoolley`	`do they have franchise lines everywhere?`
`05:17.03`	`swoolley`	`like own all rights-of-way?`
`05:17.40`	`trochej`	`swoolley: since about 1950 TPSA was the only legal telecommunication provider in Poland`
`05:17.53`	`trochej`	`and owned by government by that`
`05:18.34`	`trochej`	`out local telecommunications market was opened ony a few years ago`
`05:18.54`	`trochej`	`but still TPSA has managed to bully government to legal it's monopoly`
`05:18.57`	`trochej`	`so, we're waiting`
`05:19.17`	`trochej`	`we hope that in UE our gov is obliged to end this insanity`
`05:19.32`	`trochej`	`you know how much costs MPLS in germany?`
`05:20.01`	`trochej`	`500 Euro per month`
`05:20.18`	`trochej`	`for Pipe from Berlin to Szczecin`
`05:20.39`	`trochej`	`the same Pipe managed by our TPSA costs 3000 Euro`
`05:20.42`	`trochej`	`monthly`
`05:20.45`	`trochej`	`amazing`
`05:22.47`	`trochej`	`:)`
`05:22.53`	`trochej`	`ah sorry`
`05:23.00`	`trochej`	`seems I got carried out`
`05:25.46`	`swoolley`	`nah`
`05:27.23`	`trochej`	`it just sometimes seems that it would be much better to learn German and leave here`
`05:30.24`	`swoolley`	`it would be better`
`05:31.08`	`swoolley`	`at least you don't live in the US.`
`05:32.39`	`trochej`	`swoolley: nope, but UE is going to have it's idiot patent regulations also :)`
`05:33.57`	`trochej`	`oh`
`05:34.04`	`trochej`	`and QT doesn't link properly`
`05:34.05`	`trochej`	`:)`
`05:36.21`	`Ravensky`	`Kynlem, you're a fucking retard`
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`06:26.09`	`ashanks`	`hey`
`06:26.14`	`swoolley`	`hey`
`06:26.20`	`ashanks`	`what's up swoolley?`
`06:26.37`	`ashanks`	`I think I pissed of that Alex Smith guy.`
`06:26.40`	`swoolley`	`lol`
`06:26.44`	`swoolley`	`how?`
`06:26.53`	`ashanks`	`annoyed him, probably.`
`06:27.21`	`swoolley`	`no, you annoyed others`
`06:27.32`	`ashanks`	`what others?`
`06:27.57`	`ashanks`	`the whole sourcemage crew?`
`06:29.06`	`ashanks`	`:P`
`06:29.53`	`swoolley`	`ashanks: let me see`
`06:30.26`	`ashanks`	`I said to him Sandalle (or whoever) was probably your brother.`
`06:30.40`	`swoolley`	`heh`
`06:30.45`	`ashanks`	`He works with Sourcemage too, right?`
`06:31.11`	`ashanks`	`swoolley, have you read The da Vinci Code?`
`06:31.48`	`swoolley`	`nope`
`06:32.07`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:05]<ashanks> He's just the FAQ guy?`
`06:32.07`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:06]<ashanks> wow.`
`06:32.07`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:12]<alexsmith> ...`
`06:32.07`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:12]<ashanks> thought he like owned sourcemage.`
`06:32.10`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:15]<ashanks> he speaks of it a lot.`
`06:32.12`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [09:03:20]<alexsmith> QA. CUE AY`
`06:32.15`	`swoolley`	`04:09 <+BearPerson> [19:12:34]<BearPerson> Also... nobody "owns" source mage I think... we demonstrated that to Kyle in the past ;-)`
`06:32.18`	`swoolley`	`04:10 <+BearPerson> Though... I kinda find it ironic that the gentoo people don't know what QA is... g`
`06:32.21`	`swoolley`	`not sure where you said that`
`06:33.01`	`ashanks`	`in another channel.`
`06:33.03`	`ashanks`	`anyways.`
`06:33.18`	`ashanks`	`The da Vinci Code, you should read it swoolley. You'd like it.`
`06:33.36`	`trochej`	`ashanks: I read it. I find it kinda... boring :)`
`06:33.49`	`trochej`	`aaaaand, another server reboots :)`
`06:34.00`	`swoolley`	`ashanks: I hate it`
`06:34.11`	`ashanks`	`trochej, It's full of neat stuff. The actual puzzles are neat. Like, figuring out clues with the Fibanaci sequence and Phi, etc.`
`06:34.12`	`swoolley`	`ashanks: it's erroneous in a number of places`
`06:34.22`	`ashanks`	`swoolley, you haven't read it, you just said.`
`06:34.53`	`ashanks`	`swoolley, it isn't meant to be exactly correct, it's meant to be a mix of truth and myth.`
`06:35.03`	`trochej`	`ashanks: if you want a neat novel, read the name of the rose`
`06:35.20`	`ashanks`	`the name of the rose? hmm. what's it about?`
`06:35.28`	`trochej`	`ashanks: Umberto Eco`
`06:35.35`	`swoolley`	`yeah`
`06:35.43`	`trochej`	`ashanks: it the NEAT novel`
`06:35.44`	`trochej`	`:)`
`06:36.07`	`trochej`	`ashanks: medieval criminal`
`06:36.23`	`ashanks`	`ah`
`06:36.29`	`trochej`	`ashanks: with lots of true knowledge about times it takes place in`
`06:36.38`	`ashanks`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Name_of_the_Rose <-- that's it?`
`06:36.42`	`trochej`	`ashanks: helps, that Eco is medievalist himself :)`
`06:37.03`	`ashanks`	`hmm.`
`06:37.11`	`trochej`	`ashanks: yup`
`06:37.13`	`trochej`	`thats it`
`06:37.24`	`ashanks`	`k. I'll check it out.`
`06:37.37`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.38`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.48`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.48`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.48`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.49`	`trochej`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:37.50`	`trochej`	`ROTFL`
`06:38.05`	`trochej`	`linux kernel changelog makes for a very interesting read :)`
`06:38.37`	`nick125`	`hmm`
`06:38.43`	`nick125`	`should I make apache --with-beef or --with-chicken?`
`06:39.12`	`swoolley`	`--with-tofu`
`06:39.20`	`swoolley`	`save the animals`
`06:39.23`	`ashanks`	`hah`
`06:39.27`	`nick125`	`lol`
`06:39.36`	`nick125`	`ok...`
`06:39.46`	`ashanks`	`swoolley, Ron White -> Los Angeles.`
`06:39.57`	`ashanks`	`good comedy about vegetarianism.`
`06:40.04`	`nick125`	`--with-faux-beef`
`06:40.05`	`nick125`	`:P`
`06:40.40`	`ashanks`	`why do people still use Real Player?`
`06:41.15`	`ashanks`	`trochej, did you see the new microsoft video of Internet Explorer 7 ?`
`06:41.37`	`nick125`	`ashanks: thats a good question. however, no one has been able to answer it. though, the wmv format is way more superior then real..in billy's dreams.`
`06:41.43`	`swoolley`	`-with-garden-beef`
`06:42.12`	`ashanks`	`nick125, lol.`
`06:42.33`	`ashanks`	`the what what of what`
`06:42.46`	`ashanks`	`I'll google that one.`
`06:42.49`	`swoolley`	`the Birth of Tragedy is also good`
`06:42.54`	`swoolley`	`it might be online`
`06:42.58`	`swoolley`	`he wrote them last century`
`06:43.09`	`trochej`	`ashanks: that is very good and precize short of that book :)`
`06:43.11`	`ashanks`	`http://www.msu.org/ethics/content_ethics/texts/nietzsche/nietzsche_genealogy.html`
`06:43.21`	`trochej`	`i think I need to include it in my reviews`
`06:43.33`	`trochej`	`Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals: the what what of what`
`06:43.33`	`trochej`	`:)`
`06:43.51`	`ashanks`	`rotfl`
`06:43.57`	`swoolley`	`http://www.mala.bc.ca/~johnstoi/Nietzsche/genealogytofc.htm`
`06:44.25`	`trochej`	`Nietzsche died childless and his work is considered a public domain, so I suppose, project guttenberg or something`
`06:45.30`	`swoolley`	`I linked to an etext`
`06:46.14`	`ashanks`	`I'll probably actually read that one. If it's not propaganda. I've been reading a lot this summer, more than the past 3 8)`
`06:47.03`	`trochej`	`ashanks: Nietzsche is anything but propaganda :)`
`06:48.29`	`ashanks`	`OK, I'll read the prologue...`
`06:49.00`	`swoolley`	`"Under what conditions did men invent for themselves these value judgments good and evil? And what inherent value do they have? Have they hindered or fostered human well-being up to now? Are they a sign of some emergency, of impoverishment, of an atrophying life? Or is it the other way arounddo they indicate fullness, power, a will for living, courage, confidence, the future?"`
`06:53.39`	`trochej`	`heh`
`06:53.46`	`trochej`	`it reminds me`
`06:53.55`	`trochej`	`I'm not native English speaker :)`
`07:00.10`	`ashanks`	`lol`
`07:00.23`	`swoolley`	`ashanks: good book?`
`07:00.40`	`ashanks`	`I'm still in the prologue. It seems interesting.`
`07:02.04`	`trochej`	`It is`
`07:02.10`	`trochej`	`if one is able to read it :)`
`07:03.02`	`trochej`	`hmmm`
`07:06.21`	`ashanks`	`:-P`
`07:07.41`	`ashanks`	`I should be getting to sleep, it's early here.`
`07:08.01`	`ashanks`	`Thu Jun 30 02:08:00 CDT 2005`
`07:08.08`	`ashanks`	`lol`
`07:09.34`	`trochej`	`:)`
`07:09.38`	`trochej`	`it's 9 AM`
`07:09.41`	`trochej`	`which reminds me`
`07:09.46`	`trochej`	`userfriendly.org :)`
`07:09.54`	`nick125`	`its only 1AM here, whats you peoples problem? j/k :P`
`07:17.12`	`trochej`	`heh`
`07:19.02`	`ashanks`	`trochej, Google Dating will probably be the next Google Labs project :-P`
`07:19.02`	`trochej`	`http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2005305200630.gif`
`07:19.13`	`trochej`	`I'd like to be fired like that :)`
`07:20.26`	`ashanks`	`rotfl`
`07:20.30`	`ashanks`	`anyone would :)`
`07:21.15`	`nick125`	`lol`
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`08:13.06`	`trochej`	`Kynlem: jo`
`08:14.03`	`Kynlem`	`Yo!`
`08:15.02`	`Kynlem`	`http://209.107.231.222/~shanksfamilyimac/fellowengine/ <-- having good results`
`08:15.14`	`Kynlem`	`Forum 0.1 (unstable), designs yet to finish`
`08:15.30`	`Kynlem`	`I gotta go`
`08:15.34`	`Kynlem`	`Cya`
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`13:41.53`	`tektik`	`Hi.`
`13:41.59`	`tektik`	`Someone there ?`
`13:48.27`	`trochej`	`yup`
`13:48.27`	`trochej`	`me`
`13:50.35`	`tektik`	`Doing good ? *`
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`14:23.21`	`trochej`	`tektik: yup`
`14:51.54`	`RyanF`	`hi`
`15:07.44`	`tektik`	`Hi RyanF.`
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`15:39.18`	`RyanF`	`holler`
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`16:44.16`	`RyanF_`	`hi`
`16:44.33`	`JordanF`	`>:)`
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`18:01.41`	`RyanF`	`yo`
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`20:21.00`	`nick125`	`hi`
`20:21.04`	`RyanF`	`hey`
`20:21.42`	`RyanF`	`nick125, pm`
`20:57.53`	`RyanF`	`so..`
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`21:34.16`	`RyanF`	`hi`
`21:41.06`	`Tryblithe`	`hi`
`21:41.17`	`Tryblithe`	`i decided the first version is too dumb`
`21:41.22`	`Tryblithe`	`so im upgrading it right now`
`21:41.23`	`Tryblithe`	`:D`
`21:47.31`	`RyanF`	`lol`
`21:49.01`	`RyanF`	`refering to your project?`
`21:49.18`	`RyanF`	`or not`
`21:52.11`	`Gokee2`	`Tryblithe, First version of what?`
`22:04.29`	`ashanks`	`Gokee2, his brain ;)`
`22:04.41`	`ashanks`	`<Tryblithe>i decided the first version is too dumb`
`22:04.51`	`ashanks`	`<Tryblithe>so im upgrading it right now`
`22:04.56`	`ashanks`	`what else could it be? ;)`
`22:13.17`	`Gokee2`	`hmmm`
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`22:47.15`	`RyanF`	`lol`
`23:03.58`	`RyanF`	`heh`

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