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| 00:59.12 | Hellaenergy | where my dogs at? |
| 01:00.43 | cee | hell, were we talking about vancouver the other day? or was that spline and nurbs |
| 01:01.08 | Hellaenergy | those guys prolly |
| 01:01.13 | cee | nevermind then ! |
| 01:01.37 | Hellaenergy | cee: hows the connector? |
| 01:01.47 | cee | working, it's the request/response I need to make work now |
| 01:01.49 | cee | all 39849384 methods |
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| 01:20.03 | teknogeek | is there a turbine channel on this thing? |
| 01:20.22 | teknogeek | or maybe turbine users around here? |
| 02:01.00 | Hellaenergy | not that I know of :) |
| 02:19.02 | teknogeek | darnit |
| 02:38.31 | cee | someone should toss him in a turbine |
| 02:46.32 | Hellaenergy | cee: we lost him :( |
| 03:15.36 | cee | hehe |
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| 06:05.00 | Hellaenergy | yo |
| 06:05.52 | Hellaenergy | ibot: do you love hellabot? |
| 06:05.53 | | Hellaenergy: I give up, what is it? |
| 06:06.08 | Hellaenergy | its your girlfriend ibot |
| 06:07.22 | Hellaenergy | ibot: do you have hair? |
| 06:07.22 | | Hellaenergy: i don't know |
| 06:08.02 | Hellaenergy | ibot: Happy Valentines Day |
| 06:08.03 | | Hellaenergy: no idea |
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| 07:57.41 | aeron-a | could anyone here answer a question about tomcat? |
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| 08:31.13 | xtomxwrk | hi |
| 08:31.26 | xtomxwrk | anyone there? |
| 08:33.48 | xtomxwrk | got this problem with tomcat...3 frames, no.1 is a navbar which changes content in frame no.2 - when changing it no.1 changes into system tree view like file explorer |
| 08:33.52 | xtomxwrk | pure html frames |
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| 13:03.11 | Bjark | Hi! Anyone that can help me configure Tomcat 3.3.1 to use the same classloader that JBoss 3.0.2 uses when running them together |
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| 14:25.35 | TuXo | Hello World ! |
| 14:58.37 | TuXo | How do it ? -> Run Tomcat with the "jkconf" option |
| 14:58.41 | TuXo | please |
| 15:20.30 | cee | so.. many... methods.... |
| 15:25.34 | TuXo | cee: I try to use apache 2.0.x with Tomcat |
| 15:25.42 | TuXo | with the mod_jk |
| 15:26.48 | TuXo | I suppose thazt I need edit the server.xml |
| 15:29.22 | TuXo | However apache abec tomcat are on the same serer so the jkconf is not auto genrete is it right ? |
| 15:36.54 | cee | You're talking to the wrong guy, I've never used jk2. |
| 15:37.04 | cee | I read the code and ran screaming into the night. |
| 15:37.09 | TuXo | I see |
| 15:37.13 | TuXo | I'm progress |
| 15:37.24 | TuXo | Invalid command 'JkAutoAlias', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 15:37.25 | TuXo | :-) |
| 15:46.35 | TuXo | GREAT !!! That's work! |
| 15:47.10 | TuXo | Apache 2.0.44 and Tomcat 4.1.18 with JDK 1.4.1 |
| 15:47.44 | TuXo | simple question How use old java application no compatible with the last Tomcat release ? |
| 15:48.36 | TuXo | (....) |
| 15:48.37 | TuXo | Note: /usr/local/tomcat33/work/DEFAULT/Citrix/NFuse17/login_1.java uses or overrides a deprecated API. Recompile with "-deprecation" for details. |
| 15:48.37 | TuXo | 2 errors, 2 warnings |
| 15:48.40 | TuXo | (...) |
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| 15:48.50 | TuXo | Hello Gnug225 |
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| 16:19.45 | Gnug225 | Hiya TuXo |
| 16:59.21 | TuXo | It seems not really easy to recompilate Tomcat, §Have you a tutorial for do it quickly ? |
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| 17:52.55 | Q01 | Anyone have usage stats for servlet technology, Ex: how many people are using it, and what their industries are? |
| 17:57.32 | Q01 | I'm trying to figure out if smaller companies use servlets... |
| 18:07.41 | cee | I am not sure that anyone has really compiled information like that. |
| 18:07.50 | cee | Anecdotally, many companies that I know of use them. |
| 18:08.28 | cee | Just because they are widely used doesn't mean that they are the right tool for the job though, I wouldn't try to choose to use or not to use the technology based on it's market penetration. |
| 18:08.54 | Q01 | Hmm.. |
| 18:09.17 | Q01 | I'm thinking of the smaller companies. |
| 18:10.02 | cee | Small companies tend to use what their developers know. |
| 18:10.31 | cee | I think a lot more people are comfortable writing PHP for web applications than servlets, and so I think there's probably a better PHP penetration for products at company that are less than 25 employees |
| 18:10.52 | Q01 | Seems that way. |
| 18:10.52 | cee | again that doesn't mean that either php or java is the right or wrong approach for any given product, just that people stick with what they know. |
| 18:11.35 | Q01 | Yea, I see a lot of PHP + MySQL stuff. |
| 18:11.42 | cee | Companies large enough to have technical leadership normally hire based on pre-defined missives such as strategy decisions to use a given operating system, database, or web architecture. |
| 18:12.15 | Q01 | Those companies *probably* don't hire freelance programmers? |
| 18:12.30 | cee | No I think they do but I think they are going to select based on the decisions they have already made |
| 18:12.44 | Q01 | Hmm.. |
| 18:12.53 | cee | For example if a CTO picks up a copy of IT Weekly and reads that, say, servlets are the future and he's a fool to use anything else he may only look at hiring candidates that write servlets. |
| 18:13.04 | cee | Therefore he is going to create a servlet-centric shop that will tend to use, you guessed it, servlets. |
| 18:14.05 | cee | If you are looking at it from the prospective of being a programmer that wants to get hired I think there is a broad demands in the php, asp, and then .com and servlet segments |
| 18:15.06 | Q01 | I want to do both.. But, have to concentrate energy some place specific. |
| 18:15.43 | cee | I think that which you would want to pursue depends on your own ability and your local market if getting a job in the short term is an important consideration. |
| 18:16.22 | cee | I personally believe that people who learn a "programming language" first vs. a "scripting language" first make better programmers in the long run, but I also think a lot of people would probably argue with me all day about that. |
| 18:16.45 | Q01 | heheheh :-) |
| 18:16.53 | cee | From that mentalty alone though I would encourage you to learn Java programming first keeping in mind that if you know Java it will be easy to pick up PHP, you'll just have to un-learn "good" habits. |
| 18:17.20 | cee | Programming is very generic though, I know many languages for example but what makes a good programmer a good programmer is a sense of logical design and how to put things together, not knowlege about any given language. |
| 18:17.26 | cee | they are, in the end, all mostly the same. |
| 18:17.35 | Q01 | I know a few languages. Perl, IMO is a good learning language because it borrows from so many others. |
| 18:17.41 | Q01 | It's messy... but |
| 18:17.52 | Q01 | It shows a lot from a lot of places. |
| 18:17.57 | cee | Not two hours ago I was arguing that perl was a horrible language to learn on because it's so unstructured and capable. |
| 18:18.21 | Q01 | Yea, maybe not a good language to model. |
| 18:18.32 | cee | It doesn't encourage good programming habits I think. |
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| 18:18.40 | Q01 | But, it's whole $self nonesense kinda takes the magic out of objects. |
| 18:18.59 | Q01 | Makes you understand static from dynamic etc.. |
| 18:18.59 | cee | Talking to the wrong guy there, I avoid object languages whenever I can manage it. |
| 18:19.19 | Q01 | heheheh |
| 18:19.22 | cee | If you knew java you would find that it wouldn't take more than a few days to learn PHP. |
| 18:19.24 | Q01 | Java??? hheheheh |
| 18:19.29 | ianni | learning on perl = bad idea |
| 18:19.30 | cee | I am not really a java programmer. |
| 18:19.34 | Q01 | I know PHP and Java. |
| 18:19.37 | ianni | what's PHP got to do with Java? |
| 18:19.42 | Q01 | Just don't know where to focus. :-) |
| 18:19.45 | ianni | JSP or javascript maybe :P |
| 18:19.51 | cee | focus on being a good programmer. |
| 18:21.05 | ianni | Java is a good thing to learn to program with, IMO |
| 18:21.15 | ianni | very structured and clear cut, forces you to design things well. |
| 18:21.49 | cee | Java is OK but it's gc makes it an undesirable first language I think, since it encourages sloppy memory use. |
| 18:22.29 | cee | Someone who learns on Java and then finds themselves having to code a non gc language is going to be in a world of hurt when they realize they actually have to free things. |
| 18:24.47 | Q01 | In order to do any of that, you need to find the market. |
| 18:25.10 | Q01 | That to me, is th bottom line. |
| 18:25.13 | cee | Which gets back to being a good programmer. I'll code anything they pay me to write. |
| 18:25.23 | cee | If you focus on a particular language I think you limit yourself. |
| 18:25.31 | cee | or even platform for that matter. |
| 18:25.37 | Q01 | same here, so long as it doesn't involve microsoft. |
| 18:25.54 | cee | Programming on Windows can be OK. |
| 18:26.06 | Q01 | But, if you hang up a "I'm a freelance" sign, you need to have some sample products. |
| 18:26.22 | cee | By freelance do you mean consultant? |
| 18:26.43 | Q01 | Consultant, freelance, do modifications and accept contracts. |
| 18:27.18 | cee | If you are trying to paint yourself as a consultant you should try to have a broad background that is most likely to appeal to the largest number of potential clients. |
| 18:27.31 | cee | or to look at it another way, specialize in everything. |
| 18:27.46 | Q01 | hehehe |
| 18:27.58 | Q01 | That seems like a contradiction in terms. |
| 18:28.23 | Q01 | But, yea, be as broad as possible. |
| 18:29.28 | cee | I am probably the only person in here who regularly tries to avoid coding in Java though, so take it all with a grain of salt. I normally code C. |
| 18:29.57 | Q01 | Was hoping there would be some list some place showing how many people use servlets -vs- php -vs- perl |
| 18:30.27 | cee | I don't think anyone knows those numbers. |
| 18:30.38 | cee | It's enough of a miracle that we have netcraft to tell us who uses what webservers. |
| 18:31.20 | Q01 | Counting the hosts that serve .jsp .pl and .php files would be an indication, (innacurate, but good enough) |
| 18:31.53 | cee | Well perhaps you should pick one of the three and then write a platform to count so we could all have numbers ;) |
| 18:32.05 | Q01 | heheh :-) |
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| 20:26.49 | TPABKA | i compile jk2 --with-jni but jkjni.so is not created... why? |
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| 20:57.52 | ksdjfksdfj | is not a servlet url |
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| 21:32.28 | Hellaenergy | hello |
| 21:33.34 | cee | hell, I am about ready to import some slave children from taiwan to write these objects |
| 21:34.13 | Hellaenergy | Could someone tell me how to call a method from another worker class. I have this class: |
| 21:34.25 | hellabot | "Hellaenergy" pasted Truck.class at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/1 |
| 21:34.57 | Hellaenergy | I want to call display truck from this guy: |
| 21:35.39 | hellabot | "Hellaenergy" pasted TruckJApplet at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/2 |
| 21:36.03 | Hellaenergy | sorry displayTruck() :) |
| 21:36.44 | Hellaenergy | later cee.. |
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| 21:37.35 | Hellaenergy | what up Nurbs |
| 21:38.04 | Nurbs | finally my gateway is back up :) |
| 21:38.06 | cee | nurbs, he's the guy to answer your question. |
| 21:38.16 | Nurbs | which one? :p |
| 21:39.02 | Hellaenergy | Nurbs: I got a really really basic java programming question |
| 21:39.52 | Hellaenergy | If you look at http://hellaweb.com:8888/1 and http://hellaweb.com:8888/2 can you tell me how to call displayTruck properly? |
| 21:40.17 | Hellaenergy | from TruckJApplet |
| 21:40.21 | Nurbs | mom |
| 21:40.26 | Hellaenergy | dad |
| 21:41.33 | Nurbs | :p |
| 21:41.35 | Hellaenergy | I have tried passing it the Graphics object but it doesn't seem to like that |
| 21:42.33 | Nurbs | huh |
| 21:42.37 | Nurbs | displayTruck? |
| 21:43.12 | Nurbs | nm |
| 21:43.21 | Nurbs | <= confused person ;) |
| 21:43.49 | Hellaenergy | me too :) |
| 21:44.03 | Hellaenergy | oh well thanks anyways I'll figure it out on my own |
| 21:45.41 | Nurbs | what do you mean - doesn't like? |
| 21:47.08 | Nurbs | I'd try public void paint(Graphics g) { truck.paintTruck(g); } |
| 21:47.13 | Hellaenergy | import java.awt.*; |
| 21:47.14 | Hellaenergy | import java.awt.event.*; |
| 21:47.14 | Hellaenergy | import javax.swing.JApplet.*; |
| 21:47.14 | Hellaenergy | public class TruckJApplet extends javax.swing.JApplet { |
| 21:47.14 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.15 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.17 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.19 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.20 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.23 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.25 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.27 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.28 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.29 | cee | hell, you need to use your pastebot |
| 21:47.33 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.35 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.37 | Hellaenergy | } |
| 21:47.39 | Hellaenergy | oops sorry :) |
| 21:47.41 | Hellaenergy | TruckJApplet.java [24:1] diplayTruck(java.awt.Graphics) in Truck cannot be applied to () |
| 21:47.43 | Hellaenergy | seriously |
| 21:47.48 | Hellaenergy | cee: that was a complete mistake :) |
| 21:48.14 | Hellaenergy | Is my technique smooth or what? |
| 21:52.56 | Hellaenergy | Oh Happy Valentines Day everyone |
| 21:53.13 | Hellaenergy | g.drawHeart(); |
| 22:03.03 | Hellaenergy | 4:( |
| 22:03.09 | cee | hell I hope you don't want to be my valentine ;) |
| 22:03.29 | Hellaenergy | cee: I get a wonderful valentine already :) |
| 22:03.37 | Hellaenergy | get = got |
| 22:03.51 | cee | Do you think we could get our valentines to fight it out naked in a vat of jello? |
| 22:04.01 | Hellaenergy | doubt it :) |
| 22:04.29 | cee | Oh well. |
| 22:04.32 | Hellaenergy | cee: what did you get yours? |
| 22:04.38 | cee | nothing. |
| 22:04.40 | cee | She's well trained. |
| 22:04.48 | Hellaenergy | that makes two of us ;) |
| 22:04.52 | Hellaenergy | hahaah |
| 22:05.08 | Hellaenergy | na I'll get her a card and some good lovin |
| 22:05.27 | cee | I fixed her car last night, I'm good. |
| 22:05.40 | cee | What was this about you wanting a logo? |
| 22:05.58 | cee | Do you roll a website now? |
| 22:06.00 | Hellaenergy | I would love a logo for the myserious Hellaweb.com |
| 22:06.10 | Hellaenergy | ya two |
| 22:06.29 | Hellaenergy | thelinuxshack.com and hellaweb.com |
| 22:06.38 | Hellaenergy | nothing much there right now |
| 22:06.59 | cee | Clearly you are attracting the #java crowd though |
| 22:07.36 | Hellaenergy | How do you figure? |
| 22:07.42 | cee | The results of the poll. |
| 22:07.47 | Hellaenergy | ah yes |
| 22:07.51 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 22:08.07 | Hellaenergy | I think people put unix shell as a joke :) |
| 22:08.28 | cee | Well, they might be suggesting static webpages are the way to go. |
| 22:08.34 | cee | I have written plenty of .sh dynamic pages in my time though. |
| 22:08.39 | cee | Of course, that time was 1994, but still. |
| 22:08.51 | Hellaenergy | wow really sh cgi :) |
| 22:08.58 | cee | That was not uncommon. |
| 22:09.08 | cee | perl cgi was big for a long long long time |
| 22:09.18 | Hellaenergy | I figured someone did it or I wouldn't of added it ;) |
| 22:09.30 | Hellaenergy | oh ya perl still is |
| 22:09.43 | cee | The enlightened generally mod_perl now though. |
| 22:10.02 | Hellaenergy | It's hard to find a hosting site that offers it though |
| 22:10.11 | cee | Yeah I dunno, I colo. |
| 22:10.24 | cee | I know that 0 ISP's offer Continuity so I am pretty screwed |
| 22:10.25 | Hellaenergy | I got my boxes running out my crib |
| 22:10.50 | Hellaenergy | you got to do something about that :) |
| 22:11.04 | cee | Back in 96 I was styling ISDN BRI and a pile of boxes in the closet |
| 22:11.13 | cee | back when I cared about owning computers |
| 22:11.31 | Hellaenergy | I am on ISDN as we speak :( |
| 22:11.43 | Hellaenergy | fucking crap |
| 22:12.00 | cee | mmm crunch isdn. |
| 22:12.18 | cee | crunchy too |
| 22:12.42 | Hellaenergy | a yeah... |
| 22:13.06 | Hellaenergy | back to the logo though |
| 22:13.28 | Hellaenergy | I would like a scrumpcious style like google has :) |
| 22:14.53 | Hellaenergy | Dont you just want to eat it? |
| 22:15.47 | Hellaenergy | But, at this point I would take anything decent |
| 22:18.34 | cee | It's hard to imagine something that might be appropriate for you since I don't know you all that well and you don't already have a website |
| 22:18.44 | cee | But I'll jot down `edibile good' in my notesl. |
| 22:19.06 | Hellaenergy | cee: its like an ongoing workbench |
| 22:20.03 | Hellaenergy | It's a mystery what hellaweb is by even me |
| 22:24.56 | Hellaenergy | I have a very little black chihuahua that shits on my rug when I sit at the computer too long |
| 22:25.04 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 22:27.07 | Hellaenergy | I love Jazz |
| 22:28.30 | Hellaenergy | I like sysadmin |
| 22:29.30 | Hellaenergy | cee: what was the last concert you have been to? |
| 22:29.35 | cee | no doubt |
| 22:29.38 | Hellaenergy | I play harmonica |
| 22:29.48 | Hellaenergy | was that fun? |
| 22:29.54 | cee | but I've seen live music since then in bars and such |
| 22:29.55 | cee | We have a lot of jazz here. |
| 22:30.01 | cee | It was OK. I am not really into rock concerts |
| 22:30.12 | Hellaenergy | do you like jazz? |
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| 22:31.18 | cee | yeah but I don't know much about it |
| 22:31.41 | cee | I eat at jazz resturants now and then and always enjoy it |
| 22:31.42 | Hellaenergy | All you need to know is if you like how it makes you feel :) |
| 22:31.56 | aeron-a | Hellaenergy, this is my question. I started configuring tomcat |
| 22:32.02 | aeron-a | thanks again for help btw |
| 22:32.22 | aeron-a | anyway the JSP code only runs when the file is under the tomcat directory |
| 22:32.27 | aeron-a | (the examples) |
| 22:32.39 | aeron-a | how do I get it to run under another directory |
| 22:32.59 | aeron-a | I have been lokking into this. do i need one of those WEB-INF directories etc? |
| 22:33.00 | Hellaenergy | put a dir you want to run under the webapps dir and restart tomcat |
| 22:33.18 | aeron-a | ok i saw that page under my localhost:8080 |
| 22:33.18 | Hellaenergy | WEB-INF is a must |
| 22:33.27 | aeron-a | it asked for 3 directories |
| 22:33.30 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:33.35 | aeron-a | hold on let me get to that page |
| 22:33.42 | Hellaenergy | then use the Administrator app to set em up |
| 22:34.23 | Hellaenergy | else study the server.xml and put the dirs in that you want included |
| 22:34.33 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:34.40 | cee | hell, http://www.tessier.com/image/pcd0006/jazz.html |
| 22:34.45 | cee | I have a photo for every occasion |
| 22:34.52 | aeron-a | ok .. i am at the page they ask for this info: |
| 22:35.12 | aeron-a | Path, Config URL, and WAR URL |
| 22:35.22 | aeron-a | i know what the path is |
| 22:35.28 | aeron-a | and I know what a war file is |
| 22:35.34 | aeron-a | but I dont have one |
| 22:35.37 | aeron-a | do i need one? |
| 22:35.52 | aeron-a | i just want to run one of the examples in another directory |
| 22:36.08 | Hellaenergy | a war is a bundled webapp that gets deployed by tomcat at startup |
| 22:36.16 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:36.21 | aeron-a | ok i see what is going on |
| 22:36.28 | aeron-a | it looks at my directory that I install |
| 22:36.36 | aeron-a | and then compiles the war at startup? |
| 22:36.40 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: then change every instance of examples in the server.xml to the dir you want :) |
| 22:37.00 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: you don't have a war |
| 22:37.13 | aeron-a | was that a question? |
| 22:37.15 | aeron-a | no i dont |
| 22:37.27 | Hellaenergy | $CATALINA_HOME/webapps/yourdir |
| 22:37.43 | aeron-a | ok hold on lemme look |
| 22:37.51 | Hellaenergy | in your server.xml find the referece to examples and change it the the name of your dir |
| 22:38.08 | aeron-a | could i add an entry like you said before? |
| 22:38.15 | aeron-a | instead? |
| 22:38.15 | Hellaenergy | Yes |
| 22:38.18 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:38.20 | Hellaenergy | ibot: server.xml |
| 22:38.21 | | somebody said server.xml was at http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/07/31/tomcat.html |
| 22:38.42 | Hellaenergy | cee: did you take that? |
| 22:38.58 | cee | yes sir |
| 22:39.14 | Hellaenergy | besides the guys sholder in the pic its perfect |
| 22:39.46 | aeron-a | Hellaenergy: does the server.xml get modified by that Web app manager page? is that what is going on? |
| 22:39.56 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 22:39.59 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:40.07 | hellabot | "Hellaenergy" pasted context at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/3 |
| 22:40.21 | aeron-a | let me play around and if I get stuck I'll bug you some more |
| 22:40.28 | Hellaenergy | have fun |
| 22:40.34 | aeron-a | thanks for the help! i will |
| 22:40.41 | Hellaenergy | peace out |
| 22:40.50 | aeron-a | yo yo! |
| 22:41.25 | Hellaenergy | cee: have I helped you at all? |
| 22:41.35 | Hellaenergy | as far as ideas for the logo? |
| 22:43.23 | cee | I was thinking about some flames with a web cracked out of them |
| 22:43.32 | Hellaenergy | hahah |
| 22:43.35 | cee | but I was going to talk to my girlfriend and see if she would do it for you because she's better at that kind of thing than I am |
| 22:43.49 | Hellaenergy | wow thanks |
| 22:43.58 | Hellaenergy | does she charge? |
| 22:44.37 | cee | It depends but I hadn't intended on charging you anything |
| 22:44.52 | Hellaenergy | ah thats nice of you |
| 22:45.01 | cee | well or potentially nice of her we'll see. |
| 22:45.02 | Hellaenergy | you are my valentine aren't you |
| 22:45.08 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 22:45.18 | cee | I could do the logo for you but I don't have the software installed and so it's just easier to try to pawn it off on her. |
| 22:45.27 | Hellaenergy | none the less I appreciate you trying to help me out |
| 22:48.45 | aeron-a | ok i have no clue what i am doing :) |
| 22:49.03 | aeron-a | the paths that are in that webapp config page |
| 22:49.18 | aeron-a | they are relative to the tomcat home directory correct? |
| 22:49.38 | cee | I can't draw at all if it makes you feel any better, but I have a tiny bit of skill with vector graphics on the computer, and 3d. |
| 22:49.46 | aeron-a | do the always have to be relative? or can I make something absolute (I have win2k btw) |
| 22:50.51 | aeron-a | should I be putting http://localhost/<some dir> in the url paths? It doesnt like C:\... etc. |
| 22:51.27 | aeron-a | actually, is there a tutorial on this somewhere Hellaenergy? |
| 22:51.41 | aeron-a | i hate to kepp bothering you about this |
| 22:51.58 | Hellaenergy | did you try the http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat site? |
| 22:52.07 | Hellaenergy | ibot: server.xml |
| 22:52.08 | | hmm... server.xml is at http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/07/31/tomcat.html |
| 22:52.08 | aeron-a | yeah I can look again |
| 22:52.18 | aeron-a | i forgot why It didn't help me out |
| 22:52.20 | aeron-a | hold on |
| 22:52.47 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a after changing the server.xml restart tomcat always |
| 22:52.54 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:53.13 | aeron-a | I am using .NET to edit the file |
| 22:53.17 | Hellaenergy | look at your logs too if things didn't go right |
| 22:53.30 | Hellaenergy | doesn't matter |
| 22:53.35 | aeron-a | usually it can convert the xml file into a flat file looking this and just edit it like that |
| 22:53.39 | aeron-a | ok |
| 22:53.47 | Hellaenergy | although I have found http://www.vim.org is better ;) |
| 22:54.02 | aeron-a | vim? |
| 22:54.14 | aeron-a | have you seen how .NET edits xml? |
| 22:54.20 | aeron-a | I dont have unix |
| 22:54.29 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 22:54.33 | aeron-a | you mean vim for windows? |
| 22:54.36 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 22:54.46 | Hellaenergy | Win32 baby |
| 22:54.54 | aeron-a | but that is text based |
| 22:54.59 | aeron-a | yeah but you click the edit tab in .NET |
| 22:55.17 | aeron-a | and your xml is parsed and you can add records using that instead |
| 22:55.28 | aeron-a | Its prety cool i think] |
| 22:55.57 | Hellaenergy | so be it |
| 22:56.18 | aeron-a | yeah when I get more comfortable with Linux I will use vim |
| 22:56.40 | Hellaenergy | why not emacs? |
| 22:56.51 | Hellaenergy | they make that for windows too |
| 22:56.57 | aeron-a | I am trying to get used to this using what I know right now (Windows) I like JSP because ASP (which i usually develop in) isn't cross platform |
| 22:57.03 | aeron-a | minus the Chilisoft solution |
| 22:57.18 | aeron-a | so when I pick up JSP it will be Linux from then on |
| 22:58.02 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: netbeans has a tomcat server built in if devel is the only thing you care about :) |
| 22:58.13 | Hellaenergy | 4.0.4 |
| 22:58.29 | aeron-a | ok thats cool |
| 22:58.55 | Hellaenergy | ahaw thanks |
| 22:59.14 | Hellaenergy | Q: What's tan and black and looks great on a lawyer? |
| 22:59.14 | Hellaenergy | Angus: A doberman. |
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| 23:04.02 | Hellaenergy | man I hate tables |
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| 23:05.10 | aeron-a | ok so I looked through that server.xml only the examples stuff was inthere, where does it find the info about admin, manager, tomcat-docs, and webdav? |
| 23:05.50 | Hellaenergy | none of that was in there either? |
| 23:05.55 | aeron-a | nope |
| 23:05.59 | aeron-a | I did a text search |
| 23:06.06 | Hellaenergy | Are you sure your looking at the right server.xml? |
| 23:06.06 | aeron-a | there was alot of commented code |
| 23:06.14 | aeron-a | probably not ;) |
| 23:06.29 | aeron-a | hmm let me do a file search under tomcat |
| 23:06.40 | Hellaenergy | just look in the config dir |
| 23:06.44 | Hellaenergy | or conf |
| 23:06.49 | aeron-a | yeah |
| 23:06.54 | aeron-a | thats where i looked |
| 23:07.08 | aeron-a | <tomcat-dir>\conf <--- right there |
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| 23:07.48 | aeron-a | i have this too: server-noexamples.xml.config |
| 23:07.56 | aeron-a | what is that? the rest of them? |
| 23:08.34 | aeron-a | yeah thats the only server.xml file i have |
| 23:08.59 | Hellaenergy | look though everything expolore |
| 23:09.40 | aeron-a | in explorer? |
| 23:09.49 | Hellaenergy | :p |
| 23:10.11 | cee | hrm |
| 23:10.19 | aeron-a | oh you mean look through everything... explore! |
| 23:10.29 | Hellaenergy | yup |
| 23:10.31 | aeron-a | k |
| 23:10.36 | cee | so whenever my friend shows up I get to interface with the computer in his car and try to figure out why it's busted |
| 23:10.56 | aeron-a | do you know of some good tutorials on tomcat conifguration? |
| 23:11.03 | Hellaenergy | cee: what? |
| 23:11.22 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/index.html |
| 23:11.26 | cee | his car kept cutting out on him today and it got stranded near my house |
| 23:11.29 | aeron-a | okie doke |
| 23:11.32 | aeron-a | thanks bro! |
| 23:11.34 | cee | I suspect he's got a bad seal on his rotor cap but we'll see |
| 23:11.47 | Hellaenergy | cee: what kind of car? |
| 23:11.48 | cee | his computer threw a code though and I have the special equipment to control computers on cars |
| 23:11.50 | Hellaenergy | what year |
| 23:11.54 | cee | 96 avenger |
| 23:12.07 | Hellaenergy | first year of OCS II |
| 23:12.12 | cee | obd |
| 23:12.16 | Hellaenergy | yeah |
| 23:12.18 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 23:12.24 | Hellaenergy | I have a 96 deville |
| 23:12.30 | Hellaenergy | isn't that computer nice |
| 23:12.35 | cee | But yes he just eeked in because I don't have pre obd2 equipment for mitsubishi, who really made that car. |
| 23:12.49 | cee | Yeah it's handy. |
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| 23:14.24 | cee | all the efi cars have always really had the same functionality, just thank god for once the government did something right and ordered that they all be the same. |
| 23:14.31 | cee | all the other countries are reaping the benefit now too |
| 23:14.44 | Hellaenergy | word |
| 23:15.18 | cee | if I'm lucky I'll get to take his car apart |
| 23:15.20 | cee | muhuhuhahaha |
| 23:15.25 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/index.html |
| 23:15.28 | Hellaenergy | oops |
| 23:15.33 | Hellaenergy | http://www.moreservlets.com/Using-Tomcat-4.html |
| 23:15.51 | Hellaenergy | cee: lucky? How warm is it? |
| 23:16.19 | cee | 50 |
| 23:16.25 | cee | it's always a pleasure to wrench OTHER people's cars |
| 23:16.31 | Hellaenergy | damb it's hot there |
| 23:16.38 | cee | and get to tell them they need to go buy x car dfor nnnn dollars |
| 23:16.40 | cee | err part |
| 23:17.04 | Hellaenergy | my soon to be brother in law is ASC Certified |
| 23:17.13 | Hellaenergy | I call him :) |
| 23:17.20 | cee | haha that's cool. |
| 23:17.31 | cee | I enjoy doing it usually |
| 23:17.40 | Hellaenergy | I don't know shit about cars really |
| 23:25.39 | Hellaenergy | aeron-a: Here is what you need http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.0-doc/config/context.html#Access%20Logs |
| 23:26.20 | Hellaenergy | ibot: server.xml context is at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/context.html |
| 23:26.21 | | Hellaenergy: okay |
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| 23:32.43 | ivar | anyone familiar with the compression filter bundled w/tomcat as an example filter ? |
| 23:45.22 | cee | Well this one was easy to fix |
| 23:56.55 | cee | except I just realized his engine is gonna explode and I let him leave |