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| 00:36.58 | Hags | hey all |
| 00:38.34 | Hags | I am having a problem displaying a servlet. I have the directory structure set up properly and the webapp installed. There is a web.xml file in the WEB-INF directory with the appropriate settings, but I continue to get "requested resource not available". Any ideas?? |
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| 00:45.53 | Hellaenergy | Hags: recheck your web.xml |
| 00:46.20 | Hags | hehe...I have about 20 times |
| 00:55.38 | Hellaenergy | paste it on hellabot |
| 00:55.59 | Hellaenergy | do your tomcat examples work |
| 00:56.27 | Hags | hellaenergy: yes |
| 00:56.48 | Hellaenergy | http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/ |
| 00:57.48 | hellabot | Someone pasted <?xml version="1.0" encoding=" at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/6 |
| 00:58.06 | hellabot | "Hags" pasted <?xml version="1.0" encoding=" at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/7 |
| 00:58.31 | Hellaenergy | one sec |
| 00:58.36 | Hags | k |
| 00:58.40 | Hellaenergy | have you heard of the invoker? |
| 00:59.27 | Hags | yeah, I think so - it can be used like http://localhost/servlet/Servlet, correct |
| 00:59.30 | Hags | ? |
| 00:59.36 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 00:59.56 | Hags | I want this installation in a separate place, so I have created a webapp |
| 01:00.28 | Hags | I can get to the root of the webapp, but if I try to access the server, I get resource not available |
| 01:00.38 | Hags | servlet, not server, sorry |
| 01:00.44 | hellabot | "Hellaenergy" pasted Simple web.xml that works :) at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/8 |
| 01:01.54 | Hellaenergy | that should be in your local WEB-INF file ;) |
| 01:02.02 | Hellaenergy | dir sorry |
| 01:03.18 | Hags | ok, I'll try it |
| 01:04.59 | Hags | hellaenergy: so, should I access it by going to http://localhost/<webapp_name>/<servlet_name>? |
| 01:05.57 | Hellaenergy | if your using the invoker you put your class in WEB-INF classes and call it like so: |
| 01:06.11 | Hellaenergy | http://localhost:8080/servlet/blah |
| 01:06.30 | Hellaenergy | if you use the <servlet-mapping> |
| 01:06.41 | Hellaenergy | you can call it to any url you want |
| 01:07.27 | Hellaenergy | you can also change the name of the servlet with <servlet-name> |
| 01:14.15 | Hellaenergy | Well Hags how did it go? |
| 01:17.18 | Hags | hellaenergy: I figured it out - I missed putting my context entry in the server.xml file...thanks for you help |
| 01:17.43 | Hellaenergy | np |
| 01:31.29 | CSMan | hey guys, after a href to /servlet/myServlet and in the servlet i dispatch to /Main.jsp i get the links in that page with the additional /servlet/ path |
| 01:31.33 | CSMan | any idea? |
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| 03:49.52 | daddius | hello is anyone around? |
| 03:52.43 | tang^ | lol |
| 03:53.14 | tang^ | hmm, my first thought was "is a square"... second thought outranked the first |
| 03:53.24 | tang^ | lucky me |
| 03:53.46 | daddius | ha ha ha |
| 03:53.47 | daddius | hello |
| 03:53.51 | daddius | could you help |
| 03:53.59 | Spline | hey what would you guys name a class that implements both Provider and Modifier |
| 03:54.03 | Spline | never mind what those interfaces do |
| 03:54.39 | tang^ | ChangeMachine? |
| 03:54.59 | Spline | I was thinking *Machine is too general |
| 03:55.10 | Spline | because I also have a Performer interface that this does not implement |
| 03:55.30 | daddius | anyone know anything about init(servletconfig config) |
| 03:55.41 | Spline | sure, it runs when the servlet instance is created |
| 03:55.42 | Spline | thats it |
| 03:56.02 | tang^ | ChangeMaker comes to mind as well |
| 03:56.34 | tang^ | ArcadeDude :-P |
| 03:56.38 | Spline | haha |
| 03:56.39 | daddius | what is that argument? |
| 03:57.03 | daddius | well the reason i ask is because this application demo doesn't work right at all |
| 03:57.09 | Spline | Its defined in the spec, it is an object that contains information you can use on startup of your servlet |
| 03:57.20 | daddius | i got it from a book called devloeping java servlets second edition |
| 03:57.21 | daddius | nothign works |
| 03:57.33 | tang^ | isn't init with config deprecated? |
| 03:57.53 | Spline | hmm could be |
| 03:58.18 | daddius | that is what i am saying tang |
| 03:58.24 | daddius | that is what i understand |
| 03:58.28 | daddius | and it won't work |
| 03:58.29 | tang^ | I recall that you can just use init() if you don't actually process config |
| 03:58.43 | Spline | nah |
| 03:58.44 | tang^ | daddius: error logged? |
| 03:58.51 | Spline | interface Servlet has init(ServletConfig config) in 2.3 |
| 03:58.52 | daddius | yeah |
| 03:58.56 | daddius | i have an ass for a teacher |
| 03:59.04 | daddius | and he will fail us if we don't do this demmo |
| 03:59.13 | daddius | i don't know why but that is the way he is |
| 03:59.18 | daddius | i think he does this on purpose |
| 03:59.34 | Spline | "A ServletConfig object is used to pass initialization parameters (name-value pairs) to a servlet during its initialization" |
| 03:59.55 | Spline | maybe your initparameters arent set up right in your web.xml |
| 04:00.40 | daddius | yeah |
| 04:00.55 | daddius | i understand the init |
| 04:01.01 | daddius | but don't understand what the hell this book talks about |
| 04:01.17 | tang^ | my o'reilly java servlet programming book uses init() in all its examples. I think it also mentioned that init(config) is used less these days |
| 04:01.24 | daddius | tang i have the same book |
| 04:01.28 | daddius | i know about it |
| 04:01.34 | daddius | nice example in chapter 2 i think |
| 04:01.39 | Spline | according to this book, Servlet does not define init() |
| 04:01.40 | daddius | but this other book i have |
| 04:01.58 | daddius | Developing java servlets second edition is where the example code is in |
| 04:02.00 | Spline | Wrox Professional Java Servlets 2.3 |
| 04:02.28 | daddius | i know it gets parameters from web.xml |
| 04:02.34 | daddius | from my understanding of it |
| 04:02.44 | daddius | the problem i have is stock quote program |
| 04:02.59 | daddius | there is a service interface and a contorller interface |
| 04:03.04 | daddius | well not a controller interface |
| 04:03.09 | daddius | but a regular controller class |
| 04:03.23 | daddius | this service interface defines an executable method |
| 04:03.43 | Spline | is there any other kind of method? |
| 04:03.46 | daddius | this is not placed in web app, but in classpath |
| 04:03.49 | daddius | no |
| 04:03.52 | daddius | 1 |
| 04:04.08 | daddius | then i say soemthing like this buy implemtns service |
| 04:04.17 | daddius | and sell implements service |
| 04:04.17 | Spline | with tomcat, you dont put stuff in tomcat's classpath to get webapps to see it |
| 04:04.35 | daddius | i didn't do that |
| 04:04.41 | daddius | i place in my regular classpath |
| 04:04.48 | Spline | WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes |
| 04:04.50 | daddius | where i place everyting else |
| 04:04.55 | daddius | i didn't put in there |
| 04:04.56 | Spline | thats where stuff goes that webapps should be |
| 04:05.01 | daddius | but then i figured should i put in there also |
| 04:05.03 | Spline | i mean that webapps should see |
| 04:05.03 | daddius | still same problem |
| 04:05.11 | daddius | yeah i had all of that |
| 04:05.14 | Spline | problem = NoClassDefFound? |
| 04:05.19 | daddius | here is file structure |
| 04:05.23 | Spline | what is the error |
| 04:05.25 | Spline | and use hellabot |
| 04:05.28 | tang^ | from the tomcat-4.1 docs: A convenience method which can be overridden so that there's no need to call super.init(config). |
| 04:05.35 | daddius | class not found error on the controller |
| 04:05.49 | daddius | but book never says to put controller in WEB-INF/CLASSES |
| 04:06.05 | Spline | go check the book's errata on the publisher's web site |
| 04:06.14 | Spline | then if its not there, add the class and see what happens |
| 04:06.22 | Spline | if it fixes it, submit a new errata |
| 04:06.24 | daddius | all my other apps work fine |
| 04:06.24 | Spline | errratum :) |
| 04:06.39 | daddius | doesn't have one |
| 04:06.47 | daddius | here is publisher's site |
| 04:06.49 | daddius | http://www.virtuas.com/publications.html |
| 04:07.14 | Spline | did you try putting controller in the webapp's /WEB-INF/lib or /WEB-INF/classes? |
| 04:07.25 | daddius | i tried it in classes |
| 04:07.32 | daddius | it also needs a connection pool |
| 04:07.37 | Spline | with appropriate directory structure? |
| 04:07.38 | daddius | to a access db |
| 04:08.12 | daddius | WEB-INF/classes |
| 04:08.34 | daddius | i jar my connectionpool, service interface in a jar file |
| 04:08.36 | Spline | WEB-INF/classes/com/package/name/Controller? |
| 04:08.40 | daddius | so i can compile nicely using 1 file |
| 04:08.46 | daddius | there was no package in there |
| 04:08.52 | Spline | ah |
| 04:08.56 | daddius | so no need for that |
| 04:09.02 | daddius | i tried everyting |
| 04:09.05 | Spline | what class in particular is it not finding |
| 04:09.08 | daddius | the code is screwed up |
| 04:09.24 | Spline | whats the error message |
| 04:09.25 | daddius | wait let me start tomcat and U can see |
| 04:09.30 | daddius | I want U to see |
| 04:11.46 | daddius | site is this |
| 04:12.00 | daddius | http://daddius.zapto.org:8080/trader1/ |
| 04:12.20 | daddius | wait give me a ssec |
| 04:12.51 | daddius | ohh yeah |
| 04:12.55 | daddius | it won't even start on my system |
| 04:13.01 | daddius | i got all the errors on my friends laptop |
| 04:13.13 | daddius | but here is another app that does the same basci thing with out connection pool |
| 04:13.25 | daddius | http://daddius.zapto.org:8080/chp13/ |
| 04:13.54 | Spline | I am lost |
| 04:13.57 | Spline | what is your error |
| 04:14.08 | daddius | goto site and see |
| 04:14.22 | daddius | damn |
| 04:14.24 | daddius | give me a sec |
| 04:15.23 | tang^ | but the most interesting information will be in your log files, not on your site |
| 04:15.41 | daddius | http://daddius.zapto.org:8080/chp13/Controller |
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| 04:18.05 | daddius | hold on let me check |
| 04:18.22 | daddius | i am also trying to get log file from friend's laptop |
| 04:21.29 | daddius | man i have alot of logs |
| 04:22.03 | Spline | 404 error |
| 04:22.11 | Spline | says /chp13/Controller is not available |
| 04:22.17 | Spline | that has nothing to do with classloaders |
| 04:22.24 | daddius | but it should be according to book |
| 04:22.31 | daddius | i hate this book |
| 04:22.53 | Spline | look |
| 04:22.58 | Spline | the URL says /chp13/Controller |
| 04:23.19 | Spline | do you have a servlet mapping for /Controller in your web.xml? And is your Context /chp13? |
| 04:25.51 | daddius | no |
| 04:25.59 | daddius | he giave no web.xml file with it |
| 04:26.03 | Spline | ok |
| 04:26.04 | Spline | make one |
| 04:26.14 | daddius | again my understanding is that U don't have to have it |
| 04:26.17 | Spline | I have an easier answer for you, you know. The problem is you are spoiled |
| 04:26.22 | daddius | url wiould be /servlet/theservlet |
| 04:26.27 | Spline | Invoker servlet == evil |
| 04:26.46 | daddius | no no not spoiled |
| 04:26.50 | daddius | well to be honest with U |
| 04:27.02 | daddius | i am doing data-mining project and i am helping out girl with this project |
| 04:27.09 | Spline | in recent versions of tomcat, the INvoker servlet is off by default for security reasons |
| 04:27.13 | daddius | i also have a java app progrect also |
| 04:27.21 | daddius | so for me time is very very tight |
| 04:27.23 | Spline | sure |
| 04:27.28 | daddius | so i ask for help from people who know more then me |
| 04:27.32 | Spline | I think its quicker to make a web.xml than to enable the Invoker servlet |
| 04:27.34 | daddius | is that ok with U man? |
| 04:27.36 | Spline | and its also a better solution |
| 04:27.55 | daddius | this app is only demo app ya know |
| 04:27.57 | Spline | Its not your fault you're spoiled |
| 04:28.00 | daddius | not real production app |
| 04:28.03 | Spline | old versions of Tomcat spoiled lots of people |
| 04:28.15 | daddius | i never ran old version before |
| 04:28.16 | daddius | LOL |
| 04:28.25 | daddius | i just need this to run and if it does i will mapp it all |
| 04:28.37 | daddius | but must run |
| 04:28.50 | Spline | web.xml will make it run |
| 04:29.02 | Spline | <servlet><servlet-name>Controller</servlet-name></servlet> |
| 04:29.07 | daddius | ok again |
| 04:29.11 | daddius | i understand that |
| 04:29.12 | Spline | etc |
| 04:29.15 | daddius | but listen to me for a sec |
| 04:29.23 | daddius | i follow book for what she wants |
| 04:29.35 | daddius | this app is sort of like would i read about struts |
| 04:29.39 | daddius | mvc |
| 04:29.44 | daddius | they said |
| 04:29.49 | daddius | according to book now |
| 04:29.56 | Spline | I understand, but it looks like the book's example depends on something your version of Tomcat doesn't support, namely the Invoker serlet |
| 04:29.57 | daddius | place Controler in classpath |
| 04:30.16 | daddius | i did this on version in book |
| 04:30.19 | daddius | and new version of tomcat |
| 04:30.23 | Spline | hmm |
| 04:30.32 | daddius | man i am not totally stupid here |
| 04:30.37 | Spline | well what can I say I don't have the book |
| 04:31.04 | daddius | i had a feeling it was init(servletcofig config) |
| 04:31.18 | Spline | Either a directory in the webapp, a servlet-mapping, or the Invoker servlet |
| 04:31.26 | Spline | because /chp13/Controller is going to 404 unless something tells Tomcat what to map that to |
| 04:31.57 | daddius | U will be here right? |
| 04:32.13 | daddius | I will do what U ask |
| 04:32.16 | daddius | give me a sec |
| 04:32.22 | daddius | please |
| 04:32.35 | Spline | yea no prob |
| 04:32.42 | Spline | I'll be around for anhour or so, then bed |
| 04:37.57 | daddius | ok done |
| 04:38.06 | daddius | i gave it /controller/* |
| 04:38.27 | johnjohn7 | Question: Does anyone know if there is an eclipse plugin for Web Work? |
| 04:39.04 | tang^ | you check the plugin database? |
| 04:40.03 | daddius | man in managment it is running |
| 04:40.07 | daddius | let me check |
| 04:47.42 | daddius | is it ok to send web.xml content in here? |
| 04:47.55 | tang^ | use the pastebot |
| 04:48.11 | daddius | <web-app> |
| 04:48.11 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.11 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.11 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.11 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.13 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.15 | daddius | <servlet-name> |
| 04:48.17 | daddius | Controller |
| 04:48.19 | daddius | </servlet-name> |
| 04:48.21 | daddius | <servlet-class> |
| 04:48.23 | daddius | Controller |
| 04:48.25 | daddius | </servlet-class> |
| 04:48.27 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.29 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.31 | daddius | <servlet-name> |
| 04:48.33 | daddius | Controller |
| 04:48.35 | daddius | </servlet-name> |
| 04:48.37 | daddius | <url-pattern> |
| 04:48.39 | daddius | /controller/* |
| 04:48.41 | daddius | </url-pattern> |
| 04:48.43 | tang^ | that's not the pastebot |
| 04:48.45 | daddius | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.47 | daddius | </web-app> |
| 04:48.49 | daddius | i hope this is not offensive in this room |
| 04:49.09 | daddius | sorry not an irc person here |
| 04:49.12 | daddius | please excuse me |
| 04:49.26 | tang^ | take a peek at /topic |
| 04:50.08 | tang^ | geez I need sleep |
| 04:50.38 | daddius | ok |
| 04:50.39 | daddius | sorrry |
| 04:53.59 | hellabot | "daddius" pasted web.xml file i am using at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/9 |
| 04:54.08 | daddius | i hope U can see this |
| 04:54.13 | daddius | I lofe that tool |
| 05:00.43 | daddius | everyone gone? |
| 05:05.41 | daddius | everyone gone huh |
| 05:05.43 | daddius | oh well |
| 05:28.46 | Spline | back |
| 05:28.49 | Spline | too late i guess |
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| 07:41.07 | spikes | i get DBCP borrowObject failed: java.sql.SQLException: Server connection failure during transaction, whats d prob? |
| 07:45.53 | KarolR | Tomcat is using DBCP for connection pooling by default. By the message, a connection to your database server failed during a transaction... |
| 07:45.57 | KarolR | check your db server. |
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| 07:55.44 | spikes | KarolR: i tried using a simple jsp without using dbcp and i managed to connect to it |
| 07:56.41 | KarolR | Did you define a JNDI datasource? |
| 07:57.16 | KarolR | (in your context) |
| 07:57.36 | spikes | yup in conf/server.xml and web-inf/web.xml |
| 07:58.02 | KarolR | ahm, are you sure those are the right places to define the datasource?... |
| 07:58.28 | KarolR | anyways. Take a look at the <ResourceParams/> for your datasource and check if it's ok. |
| 07:58.30 | spikes | yup, i have diff ds for other dbs, that are working, but i cant seem to make it work on an mysql, i |
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| 07:59.12 | KarolR | I never had that error, we are using the integrated DBCP pooled JDBC connections, managed by Tomcat. |
| 07:59.18 | KarolR | ...using MySQL, too. |
| 07:59.51 | spikes | yup, actually ive succeful with it b4 but it seems that i might have changed/installed something anyways, thx, i just look at it more carefully |
| 08:00.20 | KarolR | gl |
| 08:00.54 | spikes | KarolR: anyways, ill just take this opprotunity to get some ideas on implementing dbcp, any tips for me then, currently im using jsp, then access db via bean |
| 08:02.59 | KarolR | dbcp is fully transparrent, when you're using the Tomcat facilities |
| 08:03.38 | KarolR | that means, you perform a JNDI lookup() for your datasource. Normally, it would give you a straight and simple connection. Now it gives you a pooled connection. |
| 08:04.05 | spikes | KarolR: r u using it in productn, we have apache 1.3.27 with mod_jk/tomcat 4.1.24 |
| 08:04.12 | KarolR | so I never explicitelly used DBCP... |
| 08:04.33 | KarolR | yes, we are using it in production. |
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| 10:43.08 | vakYpollo | KarolR: are your Commons Digester problems solved? |
| 10:43.32 | KarolR | no... :/ |
| 10:43.38 | KarolR | I gave up temporarilly. |
| 10:44.13 | KarolR | won't validate against a schema for now. Couldn't make it run. |
| 10:44.53 | vakYpollo | btw: what was the schame problem with digester? |
| 10:45.07 | KarolR | I am not happy about my solutions but I already spent too much time on that. So I'm doing the ISO date conversion manually using SimpleDateFormat and it's patterns support. |
| 10:45.15 | KarolR | yes, the schema problem. |
| 10:45.49 | KarolR | a) I need to be able to check if the XML document is an instance of a specified schema |
| 10:46.11 | KarolR | b) I need to make Digester convert the dates, dateTimes, numbers etc. for me onto Java objects. |
| 10:46.48 | KarolR | ...a) means validate against a schema in a specified file. |
| 10:54.54 | vakYpollo | KarolR: so, for example you have in the xs something like <element name="birthdate" type="date"/> and you want that when digester gets "<birthdate>12-04-197</birthdate>" you get the date string converted to java date object. |
| 10:55.20 | vakYpollo | you are using xerces + commons digester, isn't it? |
| 10:55.29 | KarolR | yes |
| 10:55.44 | KarolR | that's what I want to get. |
| 10:55.51 | vakYpollo | let's check |
| 10:56.16 | KarolR | I believe that the problem was that I couldn't make Digester understand/include/process the schema file that I told him to use |
| 10:56.55 | vakYpollo | I suspect that.. because xerces will only check just for validation. |
| 10:57.41 | KarolR | As soon as I set digester.setValidating(true) and digester.setSchema("schema.file.location"), |
| 10:58.02 | KarolR | it began throwing exceptions, claiming that the elements were not defined (not true) |
| 10:58.39 | vakYpollo | you have checked ur xs is valid, isn't it? |
| 10:59.09 | KarolR | it is valid. |
| 10:59.24 | KarolR | and the XML document is an instance of that schema. 100% |
| 10:59.35 | vakYpollo | :) |
| 10:59.50 | vakYpollo | jum... let me check digester source code.. |
| 10:59.55 | KarolR | I did that |
| 11:00.05 | KarolR | at the end, they set the schema location for the SAX parser. |
| 11:00.09 | KarolR | not more and not less. |
| 11:00.32 | vakYpollo | hum.. |
| 11:01.34 | KarolR | My problem is that I didn't find any Digester documentation on this, besides the autogenerated JavaDoc sayings things like setSchema(String) /** Sets the schema **/ |
| 11:01.35 | KarolR | :o) |
| 11:02.05 | KarolR | did you see any tutorials on this? Or some other resources on Digester? |
| 11:04.37 | vakYpollo | KarolR: have you checked out this? http://www.castor.org/xmlschema.html |
| 11:06.43 | vakYpollo | Maybe it has not the same features than digester. |
| 11:06.52 | vakYpollo | s/than/that |
| 11:09.34 | vakYpollo | note Digester is using this schema language: http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema |
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| 11:12.55 | KR | vakYpollo: thanks for the Castor link. I'll look at it. |
| 11:13.11 | KR | and yes, I am using the http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema schema language. |
| 11:13.36 | vakYpollo | it seems digester do nothing with schemas... |
| 11:13.54 | vakYpollo | (except for validating issues) |
| 11:14.52 | KR | well, at least if it would validate. It doesn't do it for me, as for now |
| 11:15.52 | vakYpollo | KR: KarolR: check out also this: http://jbind.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:17.20 | KR | thanks |
| 11:17.59 | KR | looks promissing |
| 11:18.04 | vakYpollo | well. in the latest link there are links to other data binding frameworks, like JAXB, Castor, Quick and Zaues. |
| 11:18.07 | vakYpollo | (Zeus) |
| 11:18.47 | vakYpollo | that's all... maybe in your free time you could add schema support to digester ;) |
| 11:21.29 | KR | yeah ;-) |
| 11:21.36 | KR | I'd love to contribute |
| 11:22.43 | KR | lets see if I can integrate schema support into Digester. |
| 11:27.36 | KR | looks like a summer vacation job to me. |
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| 12:16.37 | davidedb | hi all |
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| 16:17.49 | daddius | anyone around |
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| 16:28.15 | Hellaenergy | hi |
| 16:28.27 | daddius | hello |
| 16:28.36 | Hellaenergy | whats happenin |
| 16:29.51 | daddius | doing aright and yourself |
| 16:30.03 | daddius | having webapp problems though |
| 16:30.49 | daddius | unable to load my app |
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| 16:34.53 | Hellaenergy | ddadius: What have you done to load your app? |
| 16:35.00 | Hellaenergy | expliain in detail |
| 16:35.03 | Hellaenergy | hi dreammedia |
| 16:36.27 | daddius | well the app has 3 classes. one is a controller and the other is a service interface. and the last one is a ServiceExample which implements the interface |
| 16:37.18 | hellabot | "daddius" pasted exception i get at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/10 |
| 16:37.27 | daddius | I paste exception i get |
| 16:37.31 | Hellaenergy | did you setup your context in your servlet.xml and did you setup you web.xml correctly |
| 16:37.49 | daddius | i didn't tuch the servlet.xml file |
| 16:37.55 | daddius | but i made a web.xml file |
| 16:38.03 | daddius | and it appears to work according to log |
| 16:38.33 | daddius | the Controller tries to get a req.getParameter("service") |
| 16:38.48 | daddius | and the service i asume is a the service interface class |
| 16:39.10 | daddius | which is in same directory WEB-INF/classes |
| 16:39.26 | Hellaenergy | Where is this Controller constructor? |
| 16:40.09 | daddius | no actual construcotr in it |
| 16:40.19 | daddius | jsut a doGet and doPost |
| 16:40.38 | daddius | also i have a init(servletconfig config) |
| 16:40.45 | daddius | it makes call to super.init(ocnfig) |
| 16:41.01 | daddius | alsoi hae a void forward |
| 16:41.16 | Hellaenergy | k |
| 16:41.26 | daddius | asking for a getServletContext |
| 16:41.30 | daddius | let me post so U can see |
| 16:42.05 | hellabot | "daddius" pasted Controller class at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/11 |
| 16:42.47 | daddius | in first if statement in doPost it throws the Exception i get |
| 16:42.58 | daddius | but I am not sure how to get that parameter |
| 16:43.08 | daddius | I hear it is deprecated but how do I update this? |
| 16:44.15 | Hellaenergy | http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/servletapi/index.html |
| 16:46.40 | davidedb | Hi all, I'm triing to install tomcat+cocoon1....but not all goes right.... |
| 16:47.34 | Hellaenergy | maybe the init isn't working daddius |
| 16:47.35 | davidedb | I think that tomcat is ok,...because I get right response ad http://localhost:8081 |
| 16:47.51 | Hellaenergy | davidedb: why cocoon 1? |
| 16:47.55 | Hellaenergy | and not 2? |
| 16:48.01 | daddius | Hellaenrgy I was thinking the samething |
| 16:48.18 | daddius | using init() can't U make a call to another servlet? |
| 16:48.28 | daddius | or can U simply import that servlet? |
| 16:48.28 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: because the production-environment has it.....and I must replicate the same version.... |
| 16:48.39 | Hellaenergy | ah |
| 16:48.53 | Hellaenergy | whats the problem? |
| 16:49.13 | Hellaenergy | davidedb: There is a #cocoon channel too ;) |
| 16:49.39 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: so...if I call http://localhost/Cocoon.xml dont work... |
| 16:50.04 | Hellaenergy | try://localhost:8080/Coccon.xml |
| 16:50.32 | Hellaenergy | is the coccon dir in your webapps folder? |
| 16:50.46 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: tomcat reply at 8081 not 8080 by the default setting in my debian.... |
| 16:50.46 | Hellaenergy | did you install cocoon from a war? |
| 16:50.58 | Hellaenergy | so try 8081 |
| 16:51.05 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: not work :-) |
| 16:51.22 | Hellaenergy | how did you install cocoon? |
| 16:52.45 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: I tried to install with apt, and after I do some at hand....because not work....but nothing to do... |
| 16:53.04 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: I try to say you how I have do....wait... |
| 16:54.33 | davidedb | I have all jar files in /usr/share/java... |
| 16:55.02 | davidedb | cocoon.jar, xerces, etc etc... |
| 16:55.17 | Hellaenergy | davidedb: An expert once told me don't mix your jars in with the java distro |
| 16:55.40 | Hellaenergy | set your classpath approprately |
| 16:56.06 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: oh..nice....I must set it in the tomcat start-file ...right? |
| 16:56.27 | Hellaenergy | also did you read the documentation on http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/index.html ? |
| 16:56.40 | Hellaenergy | what OS are you on? |
| 16:56.46 | Hellaenergy | oh linux right? |
| 16:56.49 | davidedb | debian, linux |
| 16:56.59 | davidedb | <Context path="/cocoon" docBase="webapps/cocoon" debug="0" reloadable="true"></Context></ContextMan |
| 16:57.01 | davidedb | ager> |
| 16:57.22 | davidedb | I added this in the /etc/tomcat/server.xml |
| 16:57.23 | Hellaenergy | does tomcat work? |
| 16:57.43 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: tomcat work on 8081....It reply and list directory.... |
| 16:58.03 | Hellaenergy | go to the examples and see if they exec |
| 16:58.22 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: but report an error....I will post you, wait... |
| 16:58.55 | davidedb | Ajp13Interceptor: Can't create stop file: /var/run/tomcat-ajp13.id - java.io.FileNotFoundException: /var/run/tomcat-ajp13.id (Permission denied) |
| 16:58.57 | davidedb | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.37 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: But this is for Ajpl...so I think that is not my problem...right? |
| 16:59.53 | Hellaenergy | you need to set permissions in the /var/run/ dir to allow tomcat to create that file |
| 17:00.25 | Hellaenergy | davidedb: Did you read this http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/install.html ? |
| 17:00.54 | Hellaenergy | 1. Get tomcat working with its examples |
| 17:01.07 | Hellaenergy | 2. Read http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/install.html and follow the instructions |
| 17:01.13 | Hellaenergy | 3. Then get back to us ;) |
| 17:01.30 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: ok, wait tnx a lot :-) |
| 17:01.43 | Hellaenergy | I have to head off to work bbl ;) |
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| 17:22.39 | Laggy_McGee | Hi |
| 17:22.54 | Laggy_McGee | I'm getting some weird Group error on my JSP page |
| 17:24.02 | Laggy_McGee | java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: No group 1 |
| 17:24.08 | Laggy_McGee | What is a group? |
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| 17:45.36 | akb | o yo o |
| 17:45.43 | akb | hello any bud home? |
| 17:46.47 | akb | :/ |
| 17:46.50 | akb | laterz |
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| 18:36.50 | davidedb | where is the right place to add all classpath? |
| 18:39.27 | dthobby | Depends on a number of things... |
| 18:39.33 | dthobby | UNIX or NT? |
| 18:39.38 | dthobby | Server or development? |
| 18:43.24 | davidedb | linux |
| 18:43.27 | davidedb | debian |
| 18:44.11 | dthobby | Ok, is this something that is running as a server (like tomcat) or for your devlepment, for example so javac runs smoothly? |
| 18:44.11 | davidedb | it work if I add in all jar files in the start-scritp....but I don't like this solution... |
| 18:44.34 | davidedb | yes tomcat is the server |
| 18:44.45 | davidedb | and I must run cocoon.... |
| 18:45.06 | davidedb | If I add all jar files manually in the tomcat start script work... |
| 18:45.14 | dthobby | For tomcat it will automatically use jars in your common/lib directory. |
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| 18:45.31 | dthobby | You should be able to make simlinks if you want to leave them elsewhere. |
| 18:46.00 | davidedb | not in $TOMCAT_HOME/lib ? |
| 18:46.04 | dthobby | But to run javac you'll want to have them in your classpath individually (I think). I have them in my .bashrc. |
| 18:46.10 | davidedb | where is common/lib ? |
| 18:46.28 | dthobby | $TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib |
| 18:46.39 | davidedb | auch!....ok I try tnx :-) |
| 18:46.42 | dthobby | np! |
| 18:49.11 | davidedb | not work :-( |
| 18:49.22 | davidedb | I can set this default directory ? |
| 18:49.36 | davidedb | ...in some conf file of tomcat? |
| 18:49.59 | dthobby | Strange... I've never had a problem with placing jar files in there. I haven't tried reconfiguring that aspect of tomcat, so I don't know offhand where it would be configured. |
| 18:50.26 | davidedb | oh....wait...I see the dir lib/common..... |
| 18:50.34 | davidedb | is that? |
| 18:50.59 | dthobby | Yes, it should already be there and have a bunch of jars in it. |
| 18:51.15 | davidedb | yes yes....so I reTry..... |
| 18:51.20 | dthobby | For application specific jars you put them in WEB-INF/lib (from your application root). |
| 18:51.39 | davidedb | ok, nice...that's the nice way :-) |
| 18:52.58 | davidedb | It work!! :DDD |
| 18:53.08 | dthobby | Woo Hoo! :) Glad to hear it. |
| 18:53.21 | davidedb | tnx a lot dthobby! |
| 18:53.35 | dthobby | np, davidedb... Glad I could help. |
| 18:54.39 | davidedb | finally a ray of sun in this foggy day :-) !! |
| 18:54.48 | dthobby | lol... :) |
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| 19:15.44 | davidedb | Hey Hellaenergy.... :-) finally it work ;-) |
| 19:16.42 | davidedb | Hellaenergy: the problem was the classpath..... |
| 19:17.55 | davidedb | tnx at all....now work fine and I can go lunch :-)) |
| 19:17.56 | Hellaenergy | Good Job |
| 19:18.14 | davidedb | see you! |
| 19:18.17 | Hellaenergy | Have fun |
| 19:18.21 | Hellaenergy | peace out. |
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| 19:48.09 | akb | hella |
| 19:48.15 | dthobby | hey |
| 19:48.22 | akb | yo? |
| 19:48.28 | dthobby | sup? |
| 19:48.34 | akb | notin |
| 19:48.37 | akb | u? |
| 19:48.48 | dthobby | Just waiting for Friday to end... lol. |
| 19:48.52 | akb | dthobby did we talk before? |
| 19:48.57 | akb | lol why? |
| 19:49.02 | dthobby | I don't remember... |
| 19:49.08 | akb | np |
| 19:49.16 | dthobby | I didn't get to bed last night until after 3am, so I'm tired and want to crash. |
| 19:49.26 | dthobby | I had to start at 9 this morning. |
| 19:49.27 | akb | are you at work? |
| 19:49.30 | dthobby | Yes |
| 19:49.31 | akb | not good |
| 19:49.34 | akb | ugh |
| 19:49.44 | akb | how many hours more before you crash |
| 19:49.47 | dthobby | It is my own business, but I still have to be here. |
| 19:49.52 | dthobby | Only about 1 more. |
| 19:49.53 | akb | ? |
| 19:50.03 | akb | r u spline? |
| 19:50.10 | dthobby | spline? |
| 19:50.17 | Spline | Spline? |
| 19:50.28 | dthobby | heh heh. I guess not! |
| 19:50.29 | akb | lol Spline got his own business too ;) |
| 19:50.39 | akb | Spline meet dthobby, dthobby meet Spline |
| 19:50.48 | Spline | Yea, found it in the parking lot at the supermarket |
| 19:50.49 | akb | :) dont forget to send me my comission ;P |
| 19:51.00 | akb | cool. |
| 19:51.08 | dthobby | Nice to meet you. |
| 19:51.12 | Spline | hi |
| 19:51.19 | akb | nice to meet you too dthobby :) |
| 19:51.25 | dthobby | :) |
| 19:51.32 | akb | jk time |
| 19:51.33 | akb | DAILY GRIN |
| 19:51.40 | akb | A man showed some friends his apartment. One guest asked "What's that big |
| 19:51.40 | akb | brass basin for?" |
| 19:51.40 | akb | "That's the talking clock," answered the man. He gave it an ear-shattering |
| 19:51.40 | akb | pound with a hammer. |
| 19:51.40 | akb | Suddenly, a voice on the other side of the wall screamed, "Knock it off you |
| 19:51.40 | akb | idiot! Don't you know that it's 2 a.m.?" |
| 19:51.45 | akb | :/ |
| 19:52.20 | akb | lol? |
| 19:52.29 | akb | not funny? |
| 19:52.38 | dthobby | Sorry, I got a phone call... I'll laugh in a sec. |
| 19:52.48 | akb | lol :P |
| 19:52.59 | akb | that was a better joke than the previous one |
| 19:53.29 | Spline | heh |
| 19:53.53 | akb | :) |
| 19:54.01 | akb | how are you Spline? |
| 19:54.30 | Spline | ok |
| 19:54.36 | Spline | little behind on a project |
| 19:54.42 | Spline | sort of down, too, just let my intern go |
| 19:54.45 | akb | cool |
| 19:54.55 | akb | intern? |
| 19:54.57 | akb | lewinsky? |
| 19:55.00 | Spline | hah |
| 19:55.11 | akb | stay away from the cigars |
| 19:55.23 | akb | they can be more injurious |
| 19:56.05 | akb | intern as in secretary? |
| 19:56.20 | Spline | no |
| 19:56.22 | Spline | programmer |
| 19:56.33 | akb | lewinsky was a programmer! |
| 19:56.40 | Spline | get out of here |
| 19:56.52 | akb | me? |
| 19:57.03 | Spline | hahaha thats a saying |
| 19:57.13 | Spline | like "no way" or "you're kidding!" |
| 19:57.13 | akb | phew |
| 19:57.25 | akb | i thought you were really low ;) |
| 19:57.30 | akb | yes i get t |
| 19:57.30 | akb | it |
| 19:58.04 | akb | whats wrong bud? why are you low? |
| 19:58.33 | Spline | not low |
| 19:58.40 | Spline | just not fun to let an intern go |
| 19:58.50 | akb | you sacked her? |
| 19:58.56 | Spline | him, and yes |
| 19:58.58 | akb | him |
| 19:59.02 | akb | oh :( |
| 19:59.05 | akb | what did he do? |
| 19:59.27 | Spline | just didnt get up to speed quickly enough |
| 19:59.41 | akb | was he slow? |
| 19:59.59 | Spline | little |
| 20:00.10 | akb | little? :| ugh |
| 20:00.47 | akb | was he expecting it? |
| 20:01.32 | Spline | I think so |
| 20:01.38 | Spline | been thinking about it for a month |
| 20:02.04 | akb | a funny thing happend. |
| 20:02.23 | akb | We were ordering our visiting cards. |
| 20:02.38 | akb | I was with the MD and writing it for him lol |
| 20:03.01 | akb | we are a bit close and i at times bug him, he is of our age group 28 |
| 20:04.21 | akb | i said i need two cards for myself one as a software engineer and another as the operations manager, he said no. so i was nagging him and he had to leave soon he said, write managing director against your name and do it fast i have to go home. and i was like YAYYYYY :))) Am the MD :P |
| 20:04.43 | akb | we laughed and i kept telling him that, am the new MD hehe |
| 20:07.40 | akb | Spline. its ok. you can hire him back if you want, just by saying that you are giving him another chance |
| 20:07.52 | akb | dthobby u here? |
| 20:08.04 | dthobby | Just got back off the phone.... 2am.. heh heh. |
| 20:08.17 | akb | where are you right now?? |
| 20:08.21 | akb | 2AM? |
| 20:08.30 | dthobby | Just north of Toronto. Your joke. 2am. |
| 20:08.40 | dthobby | Only 10 after 4pm here. |
| 20:08.59 | akb | duh :) I thought its 2am there |
| 20:09.09 | dthobby | Sorry, just refering to your joke. |
| 20:09.18 | akb | np |
| 20:09.29 | akb | what does your company deal with? |
| 20:09.31 | dthobby | I thought the "get out of here" misunderstanding that followed it was better though! ;) |
| 20:09.43 | dthobby | I do web hosting and development and consulting. |
| 20:10.02 | dthobby | Make most of my money with development and the least from hosting. |
| 20:10.22 | akb | lol :) |
| 20:10.30 | akb | i really didnt knew the get out thingy |
| 20:10.43 | akb | and yes hosting now a days dosent have much revenue left |
| 20:10.48 | dthobby | Still its nice to know that I can get what I need from my web host since I am my web host! |
| 20:11.09 | akb | lol |
| 20:11.13 | akb | what is your comapny? |
| 20:11.17 | akb | alentus? |
| 20:11.25 | dthobby | I make a few hundred bucks each month, plus it covers expenses. Maybe not worth it, but it does tie in with the dev well. |
| 20:11.30 | dthobby | Its www.zymsys.com |
| 20:11.51 | dthobby | I don't advertise the dev there because I host for a number of developers and I don't want to tick them off. |
| 20:12.17 | akb | :) |
| 20:12.36 | dthobby | I get my dev work through a bunch of other businesses anyway, so I don't have to sell it. |
| 20:12.59 | dthobby | What do you do, akb? |
| 20:13.18 | akb | well. nothing much lol |
| 20:13.21 | akb | :) |
| 20:13.43 | dthobby | I don't know whether to say "too bad" or "you lucky bastard"! |
| 20:14.11 | akb | am a software engineer of a small business co. we are into making websites too. |
| 20:14.45 | dthobby | Nice. Do you do mostly java work, or do you use other platforms as well? |
| 20:15.55 | akb | the problem is, our company started off as a multilevel marketing ecommerce site. but it didnt work so i was called in to look into the java thingy and it was my idea to go for app dev and webdev as MLM never works. |
| 20:16.05 | akb | our site was made before i joined based on ASP. |
| 20:16.42 | dthobby | ack, I can work in just about anything, but vbscript has to be the worst. Even worse than perl! lol. |
| 20:17.13 | akb | i never tried vb script and i cant spell pearl :D |
| 20:17.20 | dthobby | Now this could get me banned, but I like c# and .net. I've been doing most projects with that platform recently. |
| 20:17.37 | dthobby | Well, .asp files are coded with vbscript. |
| 20:17.37 | Spline | most of my projects are j2ee still |
| 20:17.39 | Spline | but some are c# |
| 20:17.41 | Spline | i like it |
| 20:17.43 | dthobby | Sweet. |
| 20:18.00 | Spline | asp.net is kind of a pain |
| 20:18.04 | Spline | cant do anything struts-ish with it |
| 20:18.07 | akb | c# was supposed to revolutionise the web, what happened? |
| 20:18.08 | dthobby | I like the code base available for j2ee, but I like how .net makes my life easier for most of the things I do. |
| 20:18.08 | Spline | I still have to try maverick.net |
| 20:18.20 | dthobby | I don't know maverick. |
| 20:18.26 | Spline | me either, yet |
| 20:18.40 | dthobby | akb, give c# and asp.net some time. They've only just release version 1.1 |
| 20:18.44 | Spline | I wrote a rudimentary actionforward/actionmapping codebase for my current asp.net project |
| 20:18.57 | Spline | had to inherit all my code behind cs files from one that did all the logic |
| 20:19.13 | dthobby | I did something like that for a content management system. I love the flexability. |
| 20:19.25 | akb | cool |
| 20:19.47 | akb | so you guys still thing asp and c# are useful tools to learn? |
| 20:19.47 | Spline | cool, content management |
| 20:19.55 | Spline | rolled your own? or used MS? |
| 20:20.00 | dthobby | My marketing guy doesn't like me to call it that. lol. |
| 20:20.00 | Spline | asp.net maybe |
| 20:20.02 | Spline | ignore asp |
| 20:20.21 | dthobby | Rolled my own by creating a new base class for aspx pages derived from Page. |
| 20:20.29 | Spline | ah ok |
| 20:20.35 | akb | hmm howz asp.net diff from asp? i dont know either |
| 20:20.50 | dthobby | They are aples and oranges. |
| 20:20.54 | dthobby | Sorry, apples. |
| 20:21.14 | akb | apples are red. |
| 20:21.17 | dthobby | You can make asp.net look like asp, but mine sure as hell doesn't! |
| 20:21.39 | dthobby | akb, if you want to play with it go to www.asp.net and download web matrix. |
| 20:21.41 | akb | if i learn asp first will it help me in migrating to asp.net? |
| 20:21.43 | dthobby | Its a free .net IDE. |
| 20:21.47 | dthobby | No |
| 20:21.53 | akb | ugh |
| 20:22.00 | Spline | akb: asp.net is compiled, asp is interpreted |
| 20:22.05 | dthobby | Unless you use VB as your asp.net language. I use c#. |
| 20:22.10 | Spline | asp.net is written in C# or VB.NET, real languages |
| 20:22.11 | akb | i got a project to work on asp and i brought myself a book on asp :/ but never read it. |
| 20:22.13 | dthobby | I'd stay away from VB. |
| 20:22.46 | Spline | akb: Just imagine, no Server.CreateObject() |
| 20:22.50 | dthobby | VB has become a powerfull language, but the syntax and stuff rubs me the wrong way. |
| 20:22.51 | dthobby | lol |
| 20:23.06 | akb | :) |
| 20:23.12 | akb | VB is evergreen? |
| 20:23.13 | akb | :/ |
| 20:23.26 | akb | Spline cool. |
| 20:23.49 | dthobby | evergreen? |
| 20:23.56 | akb | lol forever? |
| 20:24.35 | dthobby | I guess Bill's favorite language is BASIC, so we're stuck with it as long as we have him. |
| 20:24.52 | akb | hehe |
| 20:25.16 | akb | so I should avoid learning asp? |
| 20:25.47 | dthobby | Its up to you. |
| 20:25.56 | dthobby | I'd go straight to asp.net if I could. |
| 20:26.14 | akb | it wont help me in anyway if i had plans to look into asp.net? |
| 20:26.30 | dthobby | Only if you use VB as the scripting language in asp.net instead of c#. |
| 20:26.37 | dthobby | If you like java you'll prefer c#. |
| 20:27.17 | dthobby | yeah. |
| 20:28.03 | dthobby | I gotta run. akb, Spline, it was nice meeting you both. Cya. |
| 20:31.05 | akb | how long do you think will it take for me to learn asp.net |
| 20:31.05 | akb | oh |
| 20:31.05 | akb | tc dthobby nice meeting you too. |
| 20:31.05 | akb | laters |
| 20:31.06 | akb | Spline bug? u here? |
| 20:31.42 | Spline | hey here and there |
| 20:31.50 | Spline | I learned it in 2 days, already knowing C# |
| 20:31.53 | akb | hmm |
| 20:31.56 | Spline | I learned C# in 3 days, already knowing java |
| 20:31.58 | akb | lol thats fast |
| 20:32.07 | akb | :P |
| 20:32.10 | Spline | Ialso already knew ASP though |
| 20:32.10 | akb | are you a bot? |
| 20:32.15 | Spline | hahaha |
| 20:32.16 | akb | rofl |
| 20:32.17 | Spline | hey brb |
| 20:32.22 | akb | k hn |
| 20:32.23 | akb | hb |
| 20:33.07 | Hellaenergy | Spline: So what do you think of C#? |
| 20:33.25 | akb | HELLA!! |
| 20:33.32 | Hellaenergy | akb: www.xchat.org ;) |
| 20:33.52 | akb | i called you the moment i came in and u ignored me!~ |
| 20:34.04 | Hellaenergy | don't flatter yourself |
| 20:34.09 | Hellaenergy | I didn't see |
| 20:34.12 | akb | lol :P |
| 20:34.15 | akb | whoz flattering? |
| 20:34.29 | akb | Javadocs http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/servletapi/index.html' |
| 20:34.30 | akb | * Set by Hella on Tue Apr 08 17:22:11 |
| 20:34.30 | akb | <akb> hella |
| 20:34.30 | akb | <dthobby> hey |
| 20:34.30 | akb | <akb> yo? |
| 20:34.55 | Hellaenergy | akb: You need some sleep |
| 20:35.07 | akb | :| |
| 20:35.10 | akb | why? |
| 20:35.14 | akb | bad mood? |
| 20:35.43 | akb | u mean et tu brutus? |
| 20:35.44 | Hellaenergy | I'll teach you to slap me with a trout |
| 20:35.55 | akb | lol |
| 20:36.06 | akb | its not personal you know it :) |
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| 20:36.51 | akb | Hellaenergy do you suggest myself venturing out into M$ world? asp, asp.net, c#, VB? |
| 20:37.04 | akb | wow that was quick for hugo. maybe his Boss came ;) |
| 20:37.12 | Hellaenergy | If you have to to make money sure |
| 20:37.49 | Hellaenergy | That would be the only reason I would and have learned it. |
| 20:38.03 | akb | hmm. |
| 20:38.12 | akb | are you aware of those languageS? |
| 20:38.23 | Hellaenergy | VB.NET |
| 20:38.36 | akb | so you know VB? |
| 20:38.39 | Hellaenergy | Visual C++ |
| 20:38.56 | akb | :/ |
| 20:39.06 | akb | dont cophuse me |
| 20:39.10 | akb | conphuse |
| 20:39.22 | Hellaenergy | confuse |
| 20:39.25 | akb | what should i learn? |
| 20:39.38 | Hellaenergy | What do you want to do? |
| 20:39.41 | akb | lol Hellaenergy i know that was just to bug |
| 20:40.02 | akb | i dunno what i want to do, am in that stage of my life like a rudderless boat with a torn sail. :| |
| 20:40.32 | Hellaenergy | Do you know how to program at all? |
| 20:40.40 | akb | I think so. |
| 20:40.46 | Hellaenergy | OOP? |
| 20:40.49 | akb | BASIC |
| 20:40.55 | akb | FORTRAN77 |
| 20:41.00 | akb | vatfor77 ;) |
| 20:41.03 | akb | COBOL |
| 20:41.05 | akb | PASCAL |
| 20:41.06 | akb | C |
| 20:41.12 | akb | OOPS |
| 20:41.19 | akb | JAVA |
| 20:41.28 | akb | phulistop. |
| 20:41.43 | Hellaenergy | Well if you know all of that what are you trying to "learn" then? |
| 20:41.45 | akb | need to erase the fullstop and concatinate a comma there. |
| 20:42.27 | akb | hey i know a bit of oracle and worked on sql server 2000 as well |
| 20:42.59 | akb | EXACTLY |
| 20:43.07 | akb | neither do i Hellaenergy :| |
| 20:43.16 | Hellaenergy | If you know C forget about VB |
| 20:43.24 | akb | why? |
| 20:43.29 | Hellaenergy | Learn UNIX |
| 20:43.46 | Hellaenergy | and since your always in the #tomcat channel learn JSP/Servlets |
| 20:43.47 | akb | but the UNIX cd is not available in entire kuwait :| |
| 20:44.01 | Spline | ... |
| 20:44.05 | Spline | the UNIX cd? |
| 20:44.09 | Hellaenergy | download RedHat 9 |
| 20:44.11 | Spline | http://www.slackware.com |
| 20:44.15 | Spline | http://www.gentoo.org |
| 20:44.20 | Spline | http://www.debian.org |
| 20:44.24 | Spline | http://www.freebsd.org |
| 20:44.27 | akb | linux. |
| 20:44.30 | Spline | http://www.openbsd.org |
| 20:44.32 | akb | i meant good old unix. |
| 20:44.35 | Spline | linux ~= unix |
| 20:44.47 | Spline | it is close enough that I wouldn't worry about it |
| 20:44.50 | Hellaenergy | http://www.freebsd.org |
| 20:44.52 | Spline | going from linux to bsd is painles |
| 20:44.53 | Spline | bsd == unix |
| 20:45.09 | Hellaenergy | You can get Soloaris 8 for i386 |
| 20:45.12 | Hellaenergy | free |
| 20:45.13 | akb | bug, by Java I meant, servlets, Jsp, advanced java, ejb, a bit of xml, networking threads bla bla |
| 20:45.18 | Spline | I should say going from *some* linux distros to bsd is painless |
| 20:45.20 | Hellaenergy | same with SCO OpenServer |
| 20:45.27 | Spline | slackware being the first |
| 20:45.36 | akb | 7*blink* |
| 20:45.49 | akb | dont phlood my mind with so many things. |
| 20:46.02 | Spline | SUmmary: there are lots of free unix variants to download and isntall |
| 20:46.14 | akb | am aware of all those. |
| 20:46.32 | akb | i got a knoppix bootable CD, the run on boot up one. |
| 20:47.02 | Spline | Summary 2: there is no UNIX cd. The only unix now a days is commercial stuff and bsd. Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, Tru64, SCO |
| 20:47.27 | Hellaenergy | Don't forget IRIX |
| 20:47.35 | Spline | whoops, good catch |
| 20:47.37 | akb | vutz dat? |
| 20:47.41 | Spline | SGI unix |
| 20:48.13 | Spline | its one of the best for massively multi-processor systems |
| 20:48.49 | akb | hmm |
| 20:49.15 | akb | so vats da punch line? |
| 20:50.13 | akb | :P |
| 20:50.18 | akb | whats a pimp slap! |
| 20:50.23 | akb | rofl sounds punny |
| 20:51.12 | akb | ok learnt unix in 21 days, after that? what next? |
| 20:51.51 | hellabot | "akb" pasted DAILY GRIN at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/12 |
| 20:52.11 | akb | thats for you Hellaenergy |
| 20:52.35 | Hellaenergy | Have fun |
| 20:53.06 | akb | sure :) |
| 20:54.16 | akb | Spline tc bud l8trz |
| 20:57.54 | akb | thanks to who all shared sometime with me. |
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| 21:01.47 | Spline | bbiaf, worktime |
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| 21:17.32 | c8h10n4o2 | anyone in here willing' to answer a question? i'm behind a firewall so I can't get to hellaweb.com:8888 |
| 21:17.43 | c8h10n4o2 | therefore, can't post there. |
| 21:18.11 | c8h10n4o2 | having issues with Tomcat config. |
| 21:18.44 | c8h10n4o2 | I get this when I try to start Tomcat: |
| 21:18.45 | c8h10n4o2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.19 | c8h10n4o2 | java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/naming/JndiPermission |
| 21:20.05 | c8h10n4o2 | I've reinstalled Tomcat twice. Deleted and reconfigged the classpaths. |
| 21:20.25 | c8h10n4o2 | however, i get that error when I try to start Tomcat. |
| 21:26.21 | c8h10n4o2 | If I refer to localhost:8080 I get javax.servlet.ServletException: org/apache/naming/JndiPermission |
| 21:29.41 | c8h10n4o2 | oh well bbl |
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| 21:42.03 | c8h10n4o2 | anyone here? |
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| 22:58.51 | DrJake | ahh 19" lcd screen so sweet |
| 22:58.54 | DrJake | so BIG |
| 22:59.35 | DrJake | does anyone know where i can get this file libtcl8.4.so ? |
| 22:59.57 | DrJake | i have looked on google and got other things that have it in it and when i try to install them..its odd they dont have download right |
| 23:00.03 | DrJake | well i should try here now in my room and then ask |
| 23:00.09 | DrJake | no need for an answer yet |
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| 23:17.22 | tjormola | hello. i was wondering what's the status of 5.0 when talking about regular use with need for relatively high level of stability and performance in production environment? i'm about to start implementing the web based frontend to quite large project and i should decide whether it's completely stupid idea to even think about using tomcat5 as servlet container |
| 23:20.09 | tjormola | if current cvs version of 5 is based on stable tomcat 4.1 and only bigger difference is support for newer servlet/jsp apis, then i guess i'm safe to go with 5.0 since there's no need to be backwards compatible and it'd be great opportunity to keep up with the development of servlet/jsp standards |
| 23:29.56 | Spline | I am not a committer, buyt my guess is that CVS HEAD includes all the experimental ideas, and will not be stable |
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