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| 02:06.59 | heaps | tang^: can i bother you with lpr and apsfilter printing question? |
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| 02:11.05 | czervik | if I have a page servlet that creates html, with images in the final html output, should I have tomcat or apache server the images ? |
| 02:12.31 | heaps | can you even combine from different sources to a client? |
| 02:13.46 | czervik | in the HTML, you do something like "...img src=/blah.jpg...", and apache will send the image to the browser |
| 02:14.18 | heaps | give it a try and see if you can get it to work |
| 02:14.33 | czervik | I have, and it works |
| 02:15.46 | heaps | you have first hand knowledge, images are pretty much static, so if it works, go for it |
| 02:16.06 | czervik | if you look at the access_log for apache, you will see a request for blah.jpg |
| 02:16.45 | czervik | tomcat can serve static data, so I am wondering if it is faster to have tomcat serve the images? |
| 02:16.50 | heaps | i assume it cant be done, html source different from the image source..but you said you got it working |
| 02:17.23 | czervik | what I am saying is that the image comes from apache, and the HTML comes from tomcat |
| 02:17.35 | czervik | is that the fastest setup ? |
| 02:18.03 | heaps | i have not measured it myself, but there are claims apache is more effecient with static pages |
| 02:19.05 | heaps | you have a page with these setup html coming from tomcat and images coming from apache i can test ? |
| 02:19.57 | czervik | no, sorry |
| 02:20.39 | czervik | on to another topic, anyone know if jmeter can support mutually authenticated SSL sites ? |
| 02:21.29 | heaps | not i |
| 02:21.55 | czervik | heaps: I think it is just you and I here tonight |
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| 03:54.11 | sandman10_99 | does anybody know what user tomcat acts as on the system |
| 03:54.12 | sandman10_99 | ? |
| 03:54.18 | sandman10_99 | for debian woody |
| 03:54.35 | sandman10_99 | i know that it doesn't act as "tomcat" |
| 03:54.46 | sandman10_99 | so would that mean it is whoever launched it? |
| 03:55.06 | sandman10_99 | of course i mean under what UID does it run |
| 03:55.12 | sandman10_99 | but i never ask things right the first time |
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| 13:41.40 | sandman10_99 | if you recall, there was one page that the session persisted in, although it was logged as being invalidated and it didn't persist in any others |
| 13:41.46 | sandman10_99 | well, if i just click logout like 10-20 times eventually the page loses the session |
| 13:42.16 | sandman10_99 | but what accounts for this time when the session persists and it shouldn't (because i kill it and set it to null and invalidate it as mr_smith suggested) is left to be discovered |
| 13:42.25 | sandman10_99 | anybody got any suggestions? |
| 13:42.36 | sandman10_99 | the delay is approx. 10 seconds for this specific page |
| 13:43.02 | sandman10_99 | but for the others the session is gone immediately (as i suspect should happen) |
| 13:46.32 | sandman10_99 | AND it's not time sensitive |
| 13:46.35 | sandman10_99 | but if i keep clicking logout i get it after about 10 seconds |
| 13:46.43 | sandman10_99 | i just waited like 2 minutes and when to the offending page, still no logout |
| 13:46.58 | sandman10_99 | but if i keep clicking logout i get it after about 10 seconds |
| 13:47.08 | sandman10_99 | there has to be something going wrong in the LogoutAction that causes it to work only sometimes |
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| 14:11.55 | hellabot | "sandman" pasted "Session doesn't invalidate for one .jsp file, while others are fine." at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot/28 |
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| 15:20.16 | sobel | can anyone here talk about session affinity and load balancing with mod_jk2 with me? i'm so close but google is failing to help me find the answers... |
| 15:20.58 | sobel | apache2/mod_jk2, tomcat 4.1.24 |
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| 17:13.40 | jkk | hey Spline |
| 17:13.53 | Spline | hi |
| 17:13.59 | Spline | what are you up to? |
| 17:15.01 | jkk | still working with jxta |
| 17:15.04 | jkk | having lots of fun :) |
| 17:15.06 | jkk | you? |
| 17:16.54 | sobel | hey.. does any of you know if session affinity works with mod_jk2? |
| 17:17.56 | sobel | i set stickySession but it's still balancing every transaction, rather than every session |
| 17:18.10 | sobel | thus, realm auth doesn't work |
| 17:20.29 | jkk | sobel: sorry, no clue |
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| 17:21.58 | Spline | jkk: playing with xindice and hibernate |
| 17:22.05 | Spline | I've developed a curious fixation on persistence |
| 17:22.27 | Spline | although I may have a fun project coming up that JXTA fits |
| 17:33.04 | jkk | hehe |
| 17:33.09 | jkk | what's the project? |
| 17:33.19 | jkk | i need to play with hibernate soon |
| 17:33.28 | jkk | though hibernate still feels kind of dirty to me |
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| 18:01.34 | Spline | well a friend wants to make a p2p thing kind of like friendster |
| 18:01.50 | Spline | i may help him out |
| 18:04.13 | jasonb | Neat. |
| 18:04.46 | Spline | what? |
| 18:04.54 | Spline | pulling my leg? |
| 18:05.13 | jasonb | Nope. |
| 18:05.24 | Spline | what happened to collab.net? |
| 18:05.26 | jasonb | CollabNet laid me off two fridays ago. |
| 18:05.33 | Spline | holy shit |
| 18:05.34 | jasonb | (if you can believe that) |
| 18:05.40 | Spline | that was a quick recovery |
| 18:05.43 | jasonb | The day after I got back from OSCON they laid me off. |
| 18:05.49 | Spline | you the only one? |
| 18:06.27 | jasonb | So, that weekend I started talking to my friend who already worked for Friendster (he was like either the first or second person hired), and as it turns out Friendster is running a massively parallel Tomcat 4.1 installation! |
| 18:06.53 | Spline | heh sweet! |
| 18:06.55 | jasonb | So, as it turned out, I ended up getting hired and I'm now working for Friendster full time. |
| 18:07.06 | Spline | hows the work? |
| 18:07.34 | jasonb | It's incredible. We've got 1.1 Million users now, growing by over 20,000 new users every day. We have to scale Tomcat up very, very high. |
| 18:07.49 | jasonb | It's really an extreme open source scalability project. |
| 18:08.08 | tang^ | somebody should document that somewhere |
| 18:08.17 | jasonb | I will.. trust me. |
| 18:08.26 | tang^ | cool |
| 18:08.32 | jasonb | I'm going to publish papers about it, and maybe co-author another book about that. |
| 18:08.38 | Spline | so user registration is your biggest bottleneck? |
| 18:08.41 | Spline | im surprised if so |
| 18:09.05 | jasonb | I work with Ian McFarland here, who just so happens to be the co-author of one of the competing Tomcat books! (Mastering Tomcat Development) |
| 18:09.38 | jasonb | Spline: User registration itself isn't the bottleneck. It's the 250,000+ users hitting the site daily that's the problem! |
| 18:09.42 | tang^ | friendster cornering the market on tomcat brain wattage? |
| 18:09.52 | jasonb | tang^: Just about! Heh.. |
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| 18:10.09 | Spline | how do you do hosting? |
| 18:10.15 | jasonb | Hosting? |
| 18:10.27 | Spline | yea, like all with exodus (cable and wireless?) |
| 18:10.38 | Spline | or lots of rackspace boxen? |
| 18:10.42 | Spline | or your own datacenter(s) |
| 18:10.58 | jasonb | We're actually looking around right now.. we're about to change how we do that and we're not totally sure yet what we're going to do. |
| 18:11.05 | Spline | ah |
| 18:11.15 | Spline | dont say that too loud |
| 18:11.20 | Spline | those salesmen come out of the woodwork |
| 18:11.32 | jasonb | We don't have our own datacenters. We have like 8 employees total right now, including the receptionist! And, we have a very, very small office, and have only been in it for less than a month. |
| 18:11.40 | Spline | and you self host |
| 18:11.48 | Spline | whats the revenue model? |
| 18:11.52 | jasonb | What does self-host mean? |
| 18:12.00 | Spline | like, you have servers on your end of a T1 |
| 18:12.16 | jasonb | At some point (soon) we're going to start charging for some of the features on the site. |
| 18:12.30 | jasonb | It's all planned out but I don't know all the details. |
| 18:12.52 | Spline | you like to stay out of that side of things huh? |
| 18:12.53 | Spline | :) |
| 18:13.18 | jasonb | Spline: We don't have a T1. We have gigabit ethernet coming into a colo, and we're steadily pushing out more than 110Mb of traffic all the time. |
| 18:13.32 | Spline | whew |
| 18:13.35 | Spline | ok a colo |
| 18:13.37 | jasonb | YEah. |
| 18:14.21 | jasonb | So Tomcat 4.1 is doing pretty well.. clustered behind a Foundry Networks ServerIron. Works great. |
| 18:14.32 | Spline | cool |
| 18:14.35 | Spline | server affinity? |
| 18:14.39 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 18:14.48 | Spline | makes it simpler on the app end |
| 18:14.57 | Spline | dude that sounds like a neat project |
| 18:15.11 | Spline | so, hiring 3-6 month contracts? :) |
| 18:15.38 | jasonb | Heh, no. |
| 18:15.58 | Spline | damn |
| 18:15.58 | Spline | heh |
| 18:16.02 | jasonb | :) |
| 18:16.07 | Spline | im moving in a month and looking for end of year contracts |
| 18:16.15 | jasonb | Where are you moving to? |
| 18:16.31 | Spline | oklahoma city |
| 18:19.47 | jasonb | Neat. One of my old bosses formerly from Collab now lives there. |
| 18:20.54 | Spline | yea all sorts of random people live there that I didnt expect |
| 18:21.18 | Spline | so, should I get his info from you? :) |
| 18:22.47 | jasonb | If you want. He's not into Java at all. He's sort of an old guy who is into amateur rocketry -- cool stuff though. |
| 18:25.05 | Spline | heh |
| 18:25.15 | Spline | amateur rocketry.. lots of people are into that |
| 18:25.19 | Spline | sort of a rich guy sport though |
| 18:31.07 | jasonb | Sort of. |
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| 22:55.48 | jkk | Spline: re |
| 22:56.04 | Spline | re |
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