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01:05.27Guy-drat. I could have thought of that.
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06:00.03schtinkyI need some quick Tomcat help: I had some pages being served over 8080 on the normal unsecure port and thought I needed a secure connection. So I rigged up a coyote container to handle connections over 8443. The pages served fine. Now, I don't need secure anymore, but I can't get the pages to serve over 8080 again. What gives?
06:00.39cheeserchange the host definition
06:00.52schtinkyI'm very new, so use small words
06:00.59schtinkywhere can I do that
06:01.33cheeserconf/server.xml
06:01.37cheeseri'm off to bed.
06:01.40cheeserg'night all.
06:02.04schtinkywait a sec
06:02.05schtinkyplease
06:02.22schtinkyI've been tooling around in server.xml for a while
06:02.27schtinkyI commented out the 8443 part
06:02.33schtinkybut it doesn't seem to help
06:02.39schtinkyI've restarted apache and tomcat
06:02.41schtinkyno help
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08:19.39rootLinuxhi..
08:20.11rootLinuxi want install tomcat  in 2 diferents counts...
08:23.30rootLinux?
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08:46.35rover_hello, i've a problem intalling Tomcat 4.1.29, can u help me (or say where can find someone that can help me) ?
09:31.34levonmorning people
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09:49.08CanardWCHello
09:50.38CanardWCA newbie question, i have a class that is use both by an app ( console mode ) and by a jsp. How can i put it into the classpath of my webapp ?
10:27.35levon.. some people would get an answer if they just stayed long enough ;)
10:28.22willemyeah, don't try to IRC without DSL or cable :)
10:28.40willemwhich brings me to my own question.. :)
10:29.58levonlol
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10:30.08levonrotfl
10:30.33willemyeah, that was weird :)
10:30.53levon;)
10:31.02willemseems that you just will get disconnected when you ask something here.. .:)
10:31.24levonrotfl
10:32.44willembut anyway, is there someone to confirm this feeling of mine? (or dispose it ftm)
10:33.14willemit seems a waste that tomcat needs to load both library sets
10:37.27levonhm...
10:37.28levondepends
10:38.11levonIf you wanna use another library or version in your web app which would conflict with the version tomcat needs, you'll be in trouble without that class loader separation
10:38.53levonSo IMHO this is a good thing.
10:40.28willemwell the libs i use in the webapps are just our own java libraries for the webapps, so i cant imagine they would confict with tomcat's own libs
10:40.46willemso i think i will just give it a go and see how they perform...
10:40.56willemtx for the insight levon!
10:41.17levonno prob, willem. ;)
10:42.05levonbut in my case I'm happy tomcat separates the class loaders. I have had some conflicts with 3rd party libraries, especially when it comes to jakarta-* libraries...
10:44.21willemyeah, i myself maybe have the same problem, as i'm using (for another app) a different version of xerces and xalan, but they dont seem to conflict though....
10:44.36willems/version/implementation
10:50.01levonyupp, same here
10:50.18levonbut they would definately conflict w/o classloader sep.
10:50.27levon(at least, the versions I use)
11:00.07willemi['ve put them in the endorsed dir and removed the xalanImp and xercesImp jars and everything is fine....
11:00.52willemthat's the way the mmbase people say how to deploy mmbase (a dutch made CMS)
11:01.39willemthat's the only way i got it to work, leaving them in the WEB-INF/lib of the webaopp threw me tomcat exceptions...
11:07.56levonhm, strange, leaving them in lib shouldn't conflict with the tomcat libs IMHO
11:26.12willemyeah, well, they do :)
11:26.49willemanyway, it doenst work when you leave them, so it also maybe a mmbase implementation issue, i'm not really into that yet...
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11:51.36rvilleriHello everybody! I found this channel on the tomcat website. I have a problem with the Tomcat connectors can I ask te question here?
11:53.15levonjust ask, if someone knows, he'll answer
11:55.15rvilleriI have compiled the jk_mod2 module, put it into the apache configuration but the  configuration command's like JkWorkersFile, JkMount, JkLogLevel etc does all give that the module is not included in the server. The Module has no error's do I think because when I don't use any Jk* command's apache gives no error's.
12:01.21rvilleriI think all the JK* syntax is changed in the mod_jk2 version....
12:01.40levonhm, sorry, I can't tell, since I use tomcat standalone
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13:12.43Asrielhas anyone had any problems with 4.1.29, mod_jk, apache 2 and http/1.0 connections/
13:12.43Asriel?
13:13.23AsrielI'm having a problem in that even though my servlet code is setting a non 200 response code and providing a body, mod_jk is still propgating the error to apache
13:13.25Asrielwhich breaks things
13:13.42Asrieloddly, 1.1 connections don't do this, and looking over the JK code, it doesn't seem to be the "intended" behaviour
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15:27.45cilquirmi got a question about sso and shared info between web applications
15:29.09cilquirmif i don't use the web application mechanisms of login
15:29.38cilquirmis it still possible to fake SSO so that a person who logs in will be recognized across all web applications?
15:32.49Mr_Lightif you write a whole meganism yourself
15:34.20cilquirmi wouldn't mind it
15:34.53cilquirmi guess my big question would be how i retrieve the session info from within one context
15:38.12Mr_Lightwhat do you miss with the normal thing?
15:38.31cilquirmwell, i'm porting an application over
15:38.59cilquirmand one of the wacky thing about this application is that it has about 6 or 7 forms that one can use to log in
15:39.25Mr_Lightcan't you specify them all?
15:40.20Mr_Lightno wait you can't
15:40.22cilquirmadditionally, it's a customer centric website, so currently we don't make use of any realms
15:41.23Mr_Lightyou can also use a realm with your own db you do know that?
15:42.44cilquirmyes
15:42.57cilquirmbut i'm inexperienced with it
15:43.24cilquirmthough if you can only specify one form
15:43.27cilquirmthen i'm still at a loss
15:43.47Mr_Lightcan't you use some includes?
15:44.20cilquirmjsp:includes?
15:44.22cilquirmi don't follow
15:45.01Mr_Lightwait let me thik
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16:05.52Mr_Lightit saved in the session
16:21.57Mr_Lightcilquirm, thinking about it I beleave there was a problem before with that ask in #java
16:29.30cilquirmMr_Light: thanks
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17:23.48giovannawhen the session go on invalidate state how can i link an event to it?
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18:13.48cilquirmhey
18:14.03cilquirmgiovanna: HttpSessionBindingListener
18:14.37cilquirmis there a way that i can set system level properties in the server.xml file?
18:14.54cilquirmequivalent to a System.setProperty()
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19:09.35cilquirmtomcat5 doesn't come with mail.jar?
19:14.31jasonbA full dist of it should.
19:15.40jasonberrr..
19:17.14jasonbActually, I guess not.
19:17.23jasonbThat's interesting.
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19:27.22jasonbI guess TC5's build files are set up to not download the JavaMail jar by default, before compiling Tomcat.  If the mail.jar exists where the build can find it, it gets included (and some of Tomcat's JavaMail support is built), but since it's not downloaded by default, it doesn't get included.
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19:28.37Guy-um - how am I supposed to connect apache2 to tomcat5 with mod_jk?
19:28.43Guy-where do I get a workers.properties file from?
19:29.09Guy-in tomcat4, the ApacheConfig listener generated one, but that listener seems to be gone from tomcat5
19:29.37|remac|Guy-: there is a good doc at apache
19:30.30|remac|Guy-: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/index.html
19:32.41Guy-I am already looking at the tomcat5 docs
19:33.56Guy-I can't seem to find anything about jk and tomcat5 (not tomcat4)
19:34.16Guy-and the tomcat4 stuff doesn't apply, because it uses the ApacheConfig listener, which is gone from tomcat5
19:36.07Guy-there is something on jk2, but I can't compile jk2 and anyway it says elsewhere that I should use jk because it's more stable
19:36.54Guy-I can't compile jk2 because it says: common/jk_channel_socket.c:74:2: #error "jk_channel_socket is deprecated"
19:37.08Guy-however this is obviously an integral part it won't work without
19:49.35|remac|Guy-: hmm, is it so bad for you to jump back to tomcat 4 ??
19:49.48|remac|it is verry well supported and docummented
19:55.46Guy-oh, I had tried tomcat4 before this, but it failed in a very convulted way
19:55.52Guy-convoluted
19:56.47Guy-someone from this channel helped me with that, but we weren't able to find out what was wrong
19:57.08Guy-so I though I'd give tomcat5 a spin - especially since some of our developers already have it running on their windows boxes
19:57.52|remac|hmm i see
19:57.53Guy-s/gh/ght/
19:58.12Guy-but now I was able to compile the last release version of jk2 (from nov-2002)
19:58.22Guy-(what didn't compile was CVS)
19:58.55|remac|evaluate what causes you less trouble
19:59.11|remac|solving a couple of things or maybe start all over again
19:59.31|remac|im sure both have +/-
19:59.54Guy-well, I have already started all over :)
20:00.56Guy-now I have mod_jk2, what do I do?
20:01.14Guy-it needs a workers2.properties, where do I get that from?
20:01.32Guy-ah, there is an example in the docs
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20:06.48|remac|hmmm
20:14.01jasonbcilquirm: Remy just verified to me that mail.jar and some other Sun jars are indeed not included in TC5 by default.  He said the main idea is that most people don't use them, but that it's easy for people who do use them to add the jar(s).  They were always optional anyway, since they are not mandatory in either the servlet or JSP specs.
20:18.40cilquirmok
20:18.43cilquirmjust checking
20:20.22jasonbYeah.  I think it's an important thing to be aware of for TC4 --> TC5 migration.
20:26.45cilquirmis anyone using TC5 under normal use
20:26.50cilquirmi know it's not production ready yet
20:32.06jasonbYes it is.
20:32.39jasonbIt was voted Stable yesterday, and the final 5.0.16 release binaries are available.  It's just that no announcement has been sent out yet.  :)
20:33.14jasonbMy company isn't yet using it in production, but I'm sure hoping we'll start testing it soon.
20:39.47cilquirmi'm actually much happier with how much stricter tomcat is
20:40.30cheeseri'm using tomcat5 now for development
20:41.30tang^I've been using tomcat5 for my home server for the last couple of months
20:41.47cilquirmi wish they had screenshots of the monitoring capabilities with the jmx stuff
20:42.11cilquirmin general, i think screenshots are good for business
20:43.28jasonbHmm, there's no JMX monitoring console included with TC5.  So, there can't be a screen shot of it.  :)  I've recently spent a couple of days putting together a JMX console for my company, and hooked up both TC4 and TC5 to see what the JMX difference was.. big difference!
20:44.36jasonbTC5's JMX actually has lots of useful things to read/write/invoke.  TC4 is mainly read-only, although it has a few things you can set.  But, no invoking of methods as far as I could tell.  And, some objects didn't show up because (I think) they're not serializeable.
20:45.14cilquirmjasonb: did you use mc4j or does tomcat do its own thing wrt jmx
20:45.15jasonbMainly, every element in server.xml is an object in Tomcat's engine that has JMX instrumentation.
20:45.42cilquirmwow, that is awesome
20:45.44Guy-jasonb: the 5.0.16 release binary is the same as the 5.0.16 alpha binary?
20:46.18jasonbcilquirm: Tomcat does not start a networked MBeanServer.  It starts up a non-networked MBeanServer.  So, even if you want to use MC4J, MC4J uses only RMI over the net, and Tomcat doesn't open a port for that.
20:46.36jasonbGuy-: It might be the same binaries.. I'd guess it is.
20:48.17cilquirmhmmm.. and i saw all those jmx-remote jar files in TC%
20:48.53kylevjasonb: can webapp JMX objects register with th TC JMX, uh, thingy?
20:49.11kylevlike, say, an enhanced Struts controller?
20:49.26jasonbcilquirm: What I did was: I grabbed the source for MX4J-2.0b1 and compiled it and deployed some stuff into Tomcat that would make it open up a JMX Remote API connector server over SOAP, and then on the client side I wrote a (hacked) MX4J HttpAdapter client that uses the client end of the JMX Remote API SOAP connector.  With all that set up, running, and connecting up, the HttpAdaptor serves a web page that contains an MX4J web UI conso
20:49.26jasonbmcat's MBeanServer.  :)
20:49.54kylevjasonb: yeah, that
20:50.49jasonbkylev: If you know how to do it, you can register your webapp's MBeans with Tomcat's own MBeanServer.  I'm not yet clear on whether this is the right way to go, but that's how we're currently doing it here.
20:51.10kylevseems to make sense to be able to do that
20:51.24kylevelse I have to run my own mbean server
20:51.31kylevand listen on a port
20:51.38kylevmake sure that doesn't conflict with other ports
20:51.44kylevblah, blah, blah per webapp
20:52.00jasonbyup.
20:52.06kylevI couldn't figure out how to find the MBeanServer in tc4.1
20:52.09jasonbThat's rather annoying and doesn't scale well.
20:52.13kylevbut I barely spent time on it
20:52.50jasonbkylev: Your webapp has to be a "privileged" webapp in order to be able to tinker with TC's own classes, including accessing TC's MBeanServer.
20:53.38kylevah.  helpful hit.
20:53.40kylevhint.
20:54.20jasonbAlso, you end up having to learn commons-modeler a bit since that's what Tomcat uses.
20:54.35kylevgranularity would also be neat there
20:54.48jasonbgranularity?
20:55.07kylevlike, allow MBean registration but not calling
20:55.29kylevI can register my MBeans, but can't edit TC's config objects
20:56.32jasonbWelp, exposing any new APIs to a webapp would be an unofficial extension to the Servlet spec, which they're not going to do for portability/compatibility reasons.
20:57.03jasonbSo, until the Servlet spec supports doing that, it's servlet-container-specific implementation.
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21:05.55sonnyjz_hello running into a problem compiling jakarta-connector on aix 5.2
21:05.58sonnyjz_Making all in common
21:05.59sonnyjz_<PROTECTED>
21:05.59sonnyjz_/usr/bin/sh: ./libtool:  not found.
21:06.09sonnyjz_libtool exists in the current working dir
21:06.12sonnyjz_what am I missing here ?
21:07.19jasonblibtool, I'd guess.
21:08.49sonnyjz_ls -al libtool
21:08.49sonnyjz_-rwxr-xr-x   1 aradmin  remedy       146698 Dec 03 15:12 libtool
21:09.50jasonbwhat dir is that in?
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21:10.33sonnyjz_$HOME/jakarta-tomcat-connectors-jk-1.2.5-src/jk/native
21:10.43sonnyjz_that's where I ran my configure with options
21:10.49sonnyjz_and that's where I am running make from as well
21:11.14jasonbsonnyjz_: Well, your build is saying "Making all in common".  Then it's saying it can't find ./libtool.  To me, that means it can't find common/libtool.
21:14.36sonnyjz_hh
21:14.38sonnyjz_ahh yes
21:15.20sonnyjz_modify the Makefile to point to where libtool is and re run make ?
21:17.11sonnyjz_heh
21:17.21sonnyjz_never puts libtool in the corresponding directories
21:17.24sonnyjz_this stinks
21:17.25jasonbWhatever cures your AIX and pains.  :)
21:17.32sonnyjz_hehe
21:17.33sonnyjz_funny
21:17.58sonnyjz_I'm wondering why when it creates the makefile it does not create the corresponding libtool file
21:18.51jasonbAt least I did, back when I used the httpd connectors.
21:20.32sonnyjz_checking for libtool... ./libtool
21:20.41sonnyjz_so I puts libtool the Makefile
21:21.04sonnyjz_it finds ./libtool instead of $PWD/libtool in the Makefile
21:21.06jasonbThat'll probably fix it.
21:21.20sonnyjz_--with-libtool= ?
21:22.12sonnyjz_heh I see
21:22.22sonnyjz_on aix it builds the actual libtool first
21:22.26sonnyjz_funny
21:22.32sonnyjz_lovely aix :)
21:32.13sonnyjz_ahh now it's complaining that it doesn't like AIX's ld
21:32.23sonnyjz_ah well I'll play around with it tomorrow
21:32.33sonnyjz_thanks a lot for your help jasonb always good to have fresh eyes on things
21:32.38sonnyjz_have a good one.
21:41.01kylevremm just checked in the doc change to remove "beta" from 5.0.16
21:41.46kylevgo to the tomcat site and furiously hit reload until the front page updates
21:42.22jasonbhehe
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21:56.54haywhat is the difference between the 5.0.14-deployer and 5.0.14 tar files?
21:57.58jasonbThe deployer is a stand-alone program, separate from Tomcat.  It deploys webapps into Tomcat.
21:58.10hayjasonb: thanks
21:58.20jasonbhay: You're welcome.
22:11.23kylevah, man.  the first non-jk question in days and I missed it.
22:13.42Guy-actually, there have been a few :)
22:14.00cheeserlike installing tomcat5 as a service
22:14.01cheeser8^)=
22:14.22Guy-and determining that apache says forbidden because the directory isn't +x :)
22:14.39cheeserGuy-: that's actually a linux thing, afaik
22:16.23Guy-it's more like a unix thing, but anyway, it was a non-jk question asked here yesterday :)
22:17.20cheeserindeed
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22:23.49Remmhi :)
22:24.35Remmso tomcat 5.0 is now officially stable (at last)
22:25.09cilquirmwoo hoo!
22:25.33Remmbetter late than never, i guess ;-)
22:25.34cilquirmok, if i create my own tag
22:25.49Guy-is there more up to date documentation for jk2 than http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jk2/index.html?
22:25.56cilquirmdeoes each method that supports an attribute have to be declared in that class  or can it be in a superclass?
22:25.57jasonbRemm: It's not so late, I don't think.
22:26.16Remmthe CVS doc might have a few more updates, but not too much :-(
22:28.10Guy-when I use the jni inprocess stuff, i.e. mod_jk2 starts tomcat (is that right?) what user is tomcat started as? root? the user apache normally runs as? or is it configurable?
22:29.18Remmit should be the apache user
22:30.15Remmi think jni is more useful on win, though
22:30.33Remmon linux, the jk2 folks keep saying domain sockets are equivalent :)
22:30.41Guy-OK
22:30.46Guy-I'll do it the socket way then
22:31.47Remmone big advantage for jni: you don't have to remember to start or stop TC :)
22:32.16cheeserRemm: does tomcat -install work on 5.0.16?
22:32.40Guy-Remm: well, that's actually a disadvantage, because then tomcat can't be restarted without stopping apache too
22:33.30Remmwell, yes, indeed. i like to think TC is stable enough ;-)
22:33.37Remmtomcat -install ?
22:34.26cheeserinstalls tomcat as a service
22:34.28cheeseron NT
22:34.34cheeserwell, windows
22:40.26cilquirmdoes anyone know if the jsp 1.2 spec changed the rules about overloading set()
22:40.37cilquirmsetX() methods in tags?
22:45.25cheeserhas anyone gotten installing tomcat as a windows service working?
22:47.44cilquirmmy question first! ;-)
22:48.42cheeserno!
22:48.47cheeseri asked mine two days ago!
22:50.01jupi`bonne nuit ++ :)
22:51.05cheeserah ha!
22:51.12cheeserthat's broken in tomcat5
22:51.23cheeseri just tried the same command with 4 and it worked!
22:51.34cheeserPOS!
22:55.50cheeserservices on unix are a no brainer.
22:55.54cheeserwindows has to make it so hard.
22:55.58cheeserthe bastages.
22:56.35tang^cheeser: soures or binaries?
22:57.03haymy comment was more towards the good code and good documentation. it all seemed to work ok (need a little more detail for creating a user tho)
22:57.05cheeserbinaries
22:57.18cheeserhay: indeed.  it's pretty straightforward.
22:57.33tang^cheeser: zip or exe?
22:57.43haythanks to all tomcat5 developers and document writers
22:57.44cheeserzip
22:57.48cheeserthe exe part works.
22:58.01cheeserbut i'm not sure we can use the exe when we deploy
22:58.19tang^is the exe an installshield exe?
22:58.26cheeseri.e., using the InstallShield guy, the service part works.
22:58.36tang^because you can script that and make it a silent install :)
22:59.24cheeserhave docs on how to do that?
22:59.40tang^if its installshield, there are some on their site
22:59.48tang^it's been a while since I did that
23:00.34cheeserk.  i'll check that out then
23:01.38cheeseri don't think the tomcat.exe does anything in tomcat5
23:01.43cheesernot even help
23:02.49tang^gah, I hate typing ls in a command prompt
23:04.20cheesercygwin
23:04.45tang^it'd be fine in cygwin, but I had a command prompt handy
23:04.57tang^and it takes so long to load the posix stuff to make ls work there
23:05.37kylevRemm: good work shoving 5.0 out
23:06.35kylevnow you can hang out here and answer jk questions
23:07.07cheeserRemm: you on the tomcat team?
23:08.47tang^hmm, running startup.bat killed my command prompt
23:09.56tang^the tc5 binary zip is rather unhappy
23:12.30cheeserhow do i rebuild that exe?
23:12.37cheeseris that included in the -src zip?
23:13.13kylevI believe so, yes
23:13.35cheeserk.
23:15.16tang^I'm not seeing it, but its a quick perusal
23:15.56cheeseryay.  tomcat's site comes up empty
23:16.06cheeserthere it is.
23:16.15cheesermust've caught an update or something
23:21.45*** join/#tomcat BMania (~chatzilla@65.118.213.24)
23:26.02*** join/#tomcat schlumpf (~vx_schlum@dsl-082-082-069-172.arcor-ip.net)
23:48.25jasonbThe Tomcat Team announces the immediate availability of Apache Tomcat 5.0.16 Stable.
23:48.25jasonbPlease refer to the changelog for the list of changes.
23:48.25jasonbDownloads:
23:48.25jasonbBinaries: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi
23:48.25jasonbSources: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi
23:48.26jasonbThe Apache Tomcat Team
23:49.25Mr_Lightw00t
23:49.43*** part/#tomcat randrew (~raj@dolmen.cc.columbia.edu)

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