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00:13.49jasonbibot: vhosts
00:13.51well, vhosts is at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/host.html
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00:38.12klasstekok... so what do I need to do get get Tomcat to follow symlinks?
00:38.16klasstek~symlink
00:38.18symlink is probably at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/config/resources.html
00:39.59klasstekto refine the question... how do I tun on follow symlinks with tomcat 4.1.29?
00:42.43klasstek~symline 4.1
00:42.50klasstek~symlink 4.1
00:43.23findme~luv
00:43.40klasstek~meepfun findme
00:43.54klasstek~meepgun findme
00:43.59ACTION shoots findme with a hyper-charged anti-neutron gun
00:44.01findme~meepfun
00:44.02findmehe he
00:44.04klasstekoops
00:44.17findmeibot, luv
00:44.18findme: I don't know, could you explain it?
00:44.24findmeibot, love
00:44.26If you love <insert item> so much, why don't you marry it
00:44.36findmeibot, hate
00:44.37findme: I wish you would RTFM.
00:44.54klasstek~cbf ibot
00:44.57ACTION smacks ibot up side the head with a clue-by-4
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06:56.39CoolBad2is anyone awake?
06:58.11CoolBad2anyone?
06:58.18CoolBad2this error is killing me
07:02.56CoolBad2??
07:06.19CoolBad2if someone could please PM me whent hey get a chance I keep getting a 403 error when i try to login to the administrative tools in my copy of tomcat
07:11.35hellabot"coolbad2" pasted "403 error, in admin section" at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot/117
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13:38.48Kataphraktoiquestion: i just downloaded tomcat and i've compiled a small servlet, all i got was the classical ClassNotFound exception. unfortunately i cant find servlets.jar and jsp.jar anywhere in the directory structure to add them to my classpath
13:38.55Kataphraktoiwhat do I do?
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14:46.42tang^Kataphraktoi: figure it out yet?
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16:39.33gesushi, could i ask you guys a stupid question? i have a little testing-server, and a friend of mine also has access to it, now he want's to run servlets etc. so i need to install tomcat
16:40.00gesusso i really just need one directory from where one could use tomcat, should i use the rpm install?
16:40.14gesusand what all does the rpm do? i mean do i need to config anything else? recompile apache?
16:42.00jasonbgesus: You don't need apache in order to use Tomcat.
16:42.09gesusoh i don't?
16:42.15jasonbgesus: Nope.
16:42.26jasonbgesus: Tomcat has a great built-in HTTP 1.1 web server.
16:42.28gesusso it's not a dynamic module?... (sorry for being a total newbie...)
16:42.45jasonbgesus: Tomcat's built-in web server is called Coyote HTTP/1.1.
16:42.46gesusokay... so how dows it know if the http request is for tomcat or apache? :)
16:43.04gesussince i do want to run apache on the same server, should i set them to run different ports?
16:43.20jasonbIf you must use Apache as well, then you can link the two using mod_proxy, that's the easiest way.
16:43.40jasonbYes, they have to run on different ports if they run on the same box.
16:44.02gesusokay, so just running them on different ports would be enough?...
16:44.15jasonbNot if you want to link the two.
16:44.47jasonbgesus: Our book, Tomcat: The Definitive Guide goes over all of this, gives all the options for setting this up, and discusses the pros and cons of each.
16:44.54jasonbgesus: You may want to look at that.
16:45.26jasonbgesus: But, sounds to me like you want to set up Tomcat, then configure apache's mod_proxy to forward certain requests to Tomcat via mod_proxy.
16:45.30gesusyeah.. i would.. but as i said i just need to get this up and running for a friend... so erhhm... i dont want to buy a book :D
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16:46.14gesusyeah, but generally theres notthing else to the installation then rpm -i tomcat-sdsdsa.rpm?
16:46.38jasonbgesus: You're going to pay either way.  If you don't get the docs, you'll pay by tinkering in circles for a couple of days.  If you buy the book then you can get it working the same day, but it costs a little (but you get to keep the book as a side benefit!  :)
16:46.58jasonbgesus: In this case, the RPM isn't going to just do all your work for you.
16:47.19gesushmmm 52 euros at my local dealer....
16:47.24jasonbgesus: I believe you're referring to the jpackage.org Tomcat RPMs, and those RPMs really aren't good.
16:47.40gesusoh, how so?...
16:47.48gesusand yes i am reffering to them...
16:48.23jasonbAll kinds of reasons.  It doesn't touch Apache.  It's a Tomcat stand-alone RPM set.  Also, it puts Tomcat in a weird place on the file system and these RPMs are not relocateable.
16:49.25jasonbSo, while it would install Tomcat in the file system, it won't link Apache with Tomcat.  Plus, once the Tomcat RPMs are installed, you have to configure it in a few places before it'll run.
16:49.53gesusokay... well i could have tomcat as a stand-alone too...
16:50.05gesusbut hmm...
16:50.39jasonbYou could have them both stand-alone, and then use href links in your web pages to point to Tomcat when something's served from Tomcat, but that won't always work.  It depends on your web application.
16:51.27gesuswell i don't even need them linked, as there is only one user who needs tomcat i could put whole hes vhost to be handled by tomcat...
16:52.01jasonbOkay.  Sure.
16:52.35gesusso what's the main configuration file called for tomcat?... (very stupid question...)
16:52.57jasonbIt's $CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml.
16:53.03gesusi think i'll give the RPM a try and then come back and whine when it's a piece of #¤%&
16:53.15gesusokay...
16:53.41jasonbYeah, go ahead and try the RPM.  If you configure it, it should at least start up.  But, it's brittle.
16:54.03jasonbAnyway, I gotta go.  Good luck!
16:54.05gesusokay, a big thanks to you
16:54.08jasonbYup, no prob.
16:54.24gesusyou were really helpfull... btw is there a big difference between 4 and 5?
16:55.34mod_curetomcat 5 handle the expression language
16:55.40mod_curethat is so nice
16:56.07gesushmm but i can't seem to find an rpm for tomcat 5, when should one arrive?...
16:56.44mod_cureno clue
16:56.47mod_cureI don
16:56.52mod_cureI dont' use linux
16:56.58gesusokay...
16:57.27gesushmm why do computer books in general need to be so damn expensive...
16:57.44gesusi'm looking for a postfix bookj and their all over 50 euros...
16:58.35mod_curepostfix book is very nice
16:59.24gesuswell theres VERY little documentation on postfix on the net...
16:59.47gesusi got it up an running but addign extra features etc...
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17:11.43Townyhello all
17:11.56Townyi'm somewhat new to serlvets/jsps and tomcat
17:12.00Townyi am using tomcat 5.0
17:12.38Townyi have a jsp that is referencing a LogonBean that is in my WEB-INF/classes directory, but when trying to compile the JSP the container can't find the LogonBean class.  Any ideas?
17:16.59Townyhello?
17:17.06Townycan you hear me now?
17:23.11kylevput LogonBean.java in a package
17:23.26TownyTomcat requires it be in a package?
17:23.42kylevno, but it's kind of a quirk
17:23.50kylevlook at the generated java code
17:26.05kylevsctually, do you have an import statement at the top of your JSP?
17:28.31Townythat did it
17:28.39Townyi did have an import statement
17:29.30Townywill that effect the scope?
17:31.35Townyhello?
17:37.47CoolBad2anyone there?
17:38.13Townyyes
17:38.41CoolBad2do you know what causes the admin tool in tomcat to give a 403 error when you login?
17:38.56Townywrong password
17:38.59Townyor wrong user name
17:39.17CoolBad2but the username/password are both in the users*.xml file
17:39.33Towny*shrug*
17:40.06CoolBad2and if I uninstall and re-install tomcat it still does it
17:40.23Townyhmmm...
17:40.28Townywhat version of tomcat?
17:40.31CoolBad25
17:40.37Townyhmm...
17:40.39CoolBad25.0.16
17:40.49CoolBad2i even deleted all the registry entries
17:40.51Townyi haven't had any problems with 5.. in fact it seems to me a lot better than 4.x.x
17:41.36CoolBad2So maybe I should submit this as a bug then?
17:42.59Townywhat os?
17:43.21CoolBad22003 server
17:43.31Townyack! :D
17:43.37CoolBad2It was running fine before; but I uninstalled it to play with websphere
17:43.44CoolBad2and now when i reinstalled its all hosed
17:44.42CoolBad2Towny, I know but i have to keep MS loaded due to the projects i work on
17:45.39CoolBad2what version of tomcat are you running?
17:45.45Townysame version on Win2k
17:45.57Townyare you using the .exe version or the .zip version?
17:46.03CoolBad2the EXE
17:46.31CoolBad2maybe i should try the zip version?
17:47.24Townywell, i'm using th exe version and am working ok
17:47.41Townymake sure that after you uninstall in that you make sure the Tomcat 5.0 directory is completely removed
17:47.59CoolBad2ok lemme try that again
17:48.00Townyand make sure that websphere is not running
17:48.10CoolBad2websphere was uninstalled
17:48.14Townyokay
17:48.40CoolBad2did you install it as a default service or force it to use a windows domain account?
17:49.26Townydefault service
17:49.32CoolBad2i will try that also
17:51.14CoolBad2do I need to copy the tools.jar file somewhere?
17:51.31Townyyou shouldn't have too
17:51.49Townybut if you were, you'd copy it from the $JAVA_HOME/lib to $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib
17:53.05CoolBad2ok default page loaded fine
17:53.17CoolBad2and status loaded
17:53.32CoolBad2cool; I finally got into the admin tool
17:54.23CoolBad2towny, do you have any experiance with the MS SQL server JDBC driver?
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17:54.33Townynothing recent
17:54.52CoolBad2ok
17:54.58CoolBad2what database are you using then?
17:55.10TownyMySQL
17:55.30CoolBad2they still dont have stored procedures or triggers implemented do they?
17:57.16CoolBad2one other question
17:57.38CoolBad2when creating a new host, if I dont specify a IP address it tries to accept on any using the specified port right?
17:58.01TownyNo, I don't believe so
17:58.37Townycreating a new host were?
17:59.07Townyoh I lied... the latest versions of MySQL does support stored procedures and triggers
17:59.31TownyI lied again :)
17:59.38Townythat is an upcoming feature :D
18:00.11TownyLook for it in v5.x
18:04.02CoolBad2lol
18:04.22Towny:D
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18:15.34hellabot"mdk" pasted "libqt3-dev" at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot/121
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19:04.48kmiloanybody know a live cd with tomcat?
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20:28.50Lurch_hi, I've compiled tomcat-5 and apache-2.0.48, and the docs say I should have a mod_jk.so file somewhere, but I can't seem to find it.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
21:07.46tang^Lurch_: http://apache.mirror.secondchapter.info/jakarta/tomcat-connectors/jk2/jakarta-tomcat-connectors-jk2-src-current.tar.gz
21:08.03tang^or start at: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi
21:08.11tang^(forgot it shows mirrors)
21:13.41Lurch_tang^, thanks
21:13.50tang^welcome
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21:17.26pandora-I'm using scope="session" in a bean for a client that does not support cookies, and it seems like the scope is reverting to "page", is this a known "feature"?
21:17.39pandora-does anyone know anything about this?
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21:19.15pandora-hello FuckOff
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22:25.44cilquirmif i have crossContext="true", is it possible to do a getContext("/othercontext").getSession()
22:27.09Lurch_could anyone help me with this mod_jk2.so module? I keep getting the message: "Invalid command 'JkWorkersFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration" when doing "apachectl configtest" ... here's the config file that's included into my httpd.conf
22:27.15Lurch_http://users.skynet.be/bk333466/wastebin/apache-tomcat.conf
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23:18.13randrewLurch_: JkSet config:file /etc/httpd/conf/workers2.properties   might work
23:19.13randrewLurch_: that's for apache2
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