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| 00:10.16 | majic | where is a good website to go to learn about JSP and Servlets |
| 00:11.13 | Jrz | em |
| 00:11.24 | Jrz | onjava.com always has nice articles |
| 00:11.43 | majic | ok, I'll check that out. Thanks! |
| 00:14.14 | Jrz | also, caucho (the makers of resin) have some nice tutorials, although not always standardscompliant |
| 00:14.35 | Jrz | http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/jsp/tutorial/index.xtp |
| 00:15.57 | majic | Jrz, would it be best to start with JSP then move on and learn Servlets? |
| 00:16.18 | majic | I'm not new to programming but I am new to the Java way of doing web programming |
| 00:17.02 | sockmonk | there are several java ways to do web programming, as far as I can tell |
| 00:17.10 | sockmonk | but I'm also new to java |
| 00:17.15 | majic | it all seems a little daunting at first. There are so many different packages in Jakarta |
| 00:17.23 | majic | I'm not sure what I need to get started |
| 00:18.06 | majic | if I simply have Tomcat installed, is that all I need to play around with JSP/Servlets? |
| 00:19.02 | sockmonk | wish I could say. |
| 00:19.04 | Jrz | if it's running there's nothing you have to do.. database access you'll have to edit an xml file |
| 00:23.27 | Jrz | later! |
| 00:24.01 | Jrz | majic, maybe resin is an option for you.. it's just unpack and run |
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| 00:25.38 | majic | can one develop solely with Tomcat or do you need something like resin. I know next to nothing about Java web development. I'm trying to get up to speed. |
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| 02:01.09 | loquace | bonne nuit |
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| 03:28.15 | a4akb | ibot boo |
| 03:28.16 | ibot | a4akb, for heven's sake, don't do that! |
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| 11:13.38 | loquace | lo |
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| 11:17.59 | Jrz | hi |
| 11:31.53 | loquace | ;) |
| 11:31.58 | loquace | hi Jrz |
| 11:37.00 | Jrz | hi |
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| 13:10.49 | Decko | Hello! Is there anybody here who can help me? My problem is that when I redeploy my webapp (copy the war file to webapps directory), my connection pool is no longer working. The exception is "Cannot create JDBC driver of class '' for connect URL 'null'". |
| 13:11.39 | Decko | I'm using tomcat 5.0.27. |
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| 13:26.41 | a4akb | Hello room. |
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| 14:17.24 | a4akb | anybody hee |
| 14:19.05 | Jrz | yo |
| 14:19.11 | a4akb | k |
| 14:26.11 | a4akb | Jrz: what r u doing here on a weekend |
| 15:20.23 | Jrz | a4akb idling ... |
| 15:22.23 | a4akb | j |
| 15:22.26 | a4akb | ok |
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| 17:21.10 | majic | if I have apache running on port 80 and then I run tomcat on port 80 will that cause problems? Does Tomcat integrate with Apache at all? |
| 17:22.23 | beron | if they are on two different machines no! otherwise... |
| 17:25.09 | majic | so there is no way to have them both listen to port 80? What is the proper way to handle this? I'd like requests to either apache or tomcat just work, ie. no needing to specify different ports on the same server |
| 17:25.35 | beron | what is the need for your apache fronting tomcat? |
| 17:26.22 | majic | maybe I just don't understand. I have websites that are running off php, I'd also like to have Tomcat running as well. |
| 17:26.27 | Jrz | run tomcat on port 8080 and let apache pass it through... |
| 17:26.32 | Jrz | using vhosts |
| 17:27.41 | beron | dont even need vhost, if you are good at using mod_proxy (btw am not) |
| 17:28.32 | beron | majic: you have the standalone tomcat working? |
| 17:28.38 | majic | yes |
| 17:30.06 | beron | okay, look at mod_jk maybe you can make it work |
| 17:31.13 | majic | ah |
| 17:31.15 | majic | thanks! |
| 17:34.35 | majic | which version should I be running 1.2 or 2? I'm running Apache 2.0.53 |
| 17:35.06 | majic | I don't see any info about them on the download page |
| 17:35.50 | beron | which download page you're looking at? |
| 17:36.15 | majic | download page for source code and binaries |
| 17:36.35 | beron | which? |
| 17:36.53 | majic | which what? |
| 17:37.00 | majic | http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi |
| 17:37.10 | majic | http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi |
| 17:37.28 | majic | they list 2 different versions of JK |
| 17:37.43 | majic | but have no info on either version |
| 17:37.52 | beron | tomcat 5.0.x works with jdk 1.4.x |
| 17:38.12 | majic | haha, I'm not talking about the JDK |
| 17:38.15 | majic | mod_jk |
| 17:38.45 | beron | oh you need to read up a little bit from the list |
| 17:38.55 | majic | what list? |
| 17:39.01 | beron | mailing list for tomcat |
| 17:39.21 | beron | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&b=200502&w=4 |
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| 18:36.12 | majic | I have a working install of Tomcat 5.5.7 however the shutdown script is not stopping the tomcat process, if I check ps it's still there. If I rerun shutdown it dies saying connection refused. |
| 18:36.38 | majic | I have to use kill to kill the process |
| 18:38.35 | beron | you need to find out what threads tomcat is using and kill those beforehand |
| 18:40.16 | majic | there is only one process being started |
| 18:40.29 | majic | /opt/jdk1.5.0_01/bin/java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/www/htdocs/jakarta... |
| 18:43.39 | majic | if I kill that one process there is no reason to use the shutdown.sh script (ie. because there is nothing else running) |
| 18:45.51 | beron | yeah thats okay to me.. |
| 18:53.01 | majic | what is shutdown.sh actually doing if it's not actually stopping the tomcat process? |
| 19:01.34 | majic | so I suppose the way to do it is to run shutdown then kill the java process? |
| 19:01.37 | majic | manually |
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| 19:42.49 | obsidian-studios | hello is there a way to get the manager/status?XML=true page without authentication or by passing the auth info as a param? |
| 19:43.26 | obsidian-studios | I would like to parse this data and would prefer not to have to deal with the authentication aspect, if possible |
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| 19:55.48 | ed_ | im not having very much luck setting mod_jk up |
| 19:56.09 | ed_ | am i right in thinking that apache/php can work with jsp on port 80, seamlessly |
| 19:56.27 | obsidian-studios | yes |
| 19:57.46 | ed_ | ok, great. tomcat is running on 8180, mod_jk is loaded in apache, but <% %> tags are not working, i tried with <%=3 %>, expecting 3 to output and i get an internal server error. I cant find a record of this in a log file anywhere though |
| 19:58.24 | obsidian-studios | jsp and servlets like any other extension or folder in apache must be mapped |
| 19:58.52 | obsidian-studios | not much time u using apache 1.x or 2.x |
| 19:59.09 | ed_ | i have JkMount /*.jsp ajp13 in the gloabal level of apache (not on a virtual host) |
| 19:59.22 | ed_ | 1.3 |
| 19:59.48 | obsidian-studios | hmm, been a while since 1.x days |
| 20:00.00 | ed_ | debian stable here |
| 20:01.38 | obsidian-studios | you mention port 8180 but what port is your worker on that one? |
| 20:02.06 | ed_ | 8009 |
| 20:02.29 | obsidian-studios | you have added all the other workers stuff in apache , the JK* aside from JKMount |
| 20:03.30 | obsidian-studios | is tomcat working? can you make requests on port 8180 and get content |
| 20:03.44 | ed_ | i get requests back just find |
| 20:04.08 | ed_ | ive got 9 lines in workers |
| 20:04.27 | obsidian-studios | <%=3%> should not be a valid jsp file, but then you should get a error page from tomcat |
| 20:05.28 | obsidian-studios | is tomcat listenting on port 8009? netstat -ln |
| 20:06.13 | ed_ | this is my workers file, workers.tomcat_home=/usr/share/tomcat4, workers.java_home=/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_04, ps=/, worker.list=local, worker.local.type=ajp13, worker.local.host=localhost, worker.local.port=8009 |
| 20:06.41 | obsidian-studios | dude |
| 20:06.50 | ed_ | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8009 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 20:06.52 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.54 | obsidian-studios | weird |
| 20:07.00 | obsidian-studios | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.07 | obsidian-studios | or just worker.list=ajp13 |
| 20:07.11 | ed_ | , =\n |
| 20:07.30 | obsidian-studios | then all you should need is a few other lines |
| 20:07.44 | obsidian-studios | the balancer and etc is optional |
| 20:08.08 | obsidian-studios | http://www.akadia.com/download/soug/tomcat/html/workers_properties.html |
| 20:08.42 | obsidian-studios | what is all that local stuff? |
| 20:09.25 | obsidian-studios | got to run use that link and see seems like your problem is in the workers file |
| 20:09.51 | ed_ | worker.list=local, i think that is then substitued in worker.*whatever worker.list is*.var |
| 20:10.08 | ed_ | thanks for the help dude |
| 20:10.18 | obsidian-studios | possibly but I have never seen it before |
| 20:10.22 | obsidian-studios | so for now get rid of it |
| 20:10.33 | ed_ | okie |
| 20:10.43 | obsidian-studios | really most times you have one worker |
| 20:10.57 | obsidian-studios | if it's 8009 I believe it's ajp13 |
| 20:11.02 | obsidian-studios | so the rest is useless |
| 20:11.17 | ed_ | ok ill use the ajp13, what does ajp stand for? |
| 20:11.28 | obsidian-studios | google |
| 20:11.45 | obsidian-studios | was not important enough to remember |
| 20:11.54 | obsidian-studios | have fun |
| 20:11.59 | ed_ | ill try! |
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| 20:18.32 | ed_ | can someone tell obsidian-studios that he was very right, i have replaced my workers file and now all is good |
| 20:19.15 | ed_ | hes not running a webserver, i would have tried to find out who he is from that, but i cant, so can someone just pass on my gratitude please, thanks |
| 22:51.38 | loquace | re |
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| 23:07.15 | crackedwh | hello |
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| 23:27.46 | ccj | Hey. I just downloaded & installed Tomcat 5.5.7, and I can start it with startup.sh, but it seems to die just a few seconds afterwards. What should I do? |
| 23:28.03 | ccj | Oh, I see, nevermind |
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| 23:42.40 | Spiky | i've just been to jakarta website and gotten a bit lost with the current state of play of tomcat.... if i want to go with 5.5.7, i should be using JDK 1.5 (v5.0) ? |
| 23:43.27 | Spiky | AFAIK, jdk 1.5 (5.0) is beta, so how can 5.5.7 be stable? |
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