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| 00:33.35 | loquace | ++ |
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| 00:40.21 | Zenodoto | Hi to all |
| 00:40.33 | Zenodoto | i need a little help |
| 00:40.47 | Zenodoto | is there someone can help me on tomcat? |
| 00:41.06 | Zenodoto | i receve error qhen i stop it |
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| 04:18.10 | crackhead | ++ |
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| 07:06.53 | eeaaxx | anbody knows how to shutdown properly the tomcat which jmx is enabled? |
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| 07:56.46 | onoff | how can i write a text on the jsp page, because when i use System.out.println( "x" ); writes in the logs |
| 08:01.12 | eeaaxx | maybe use PrintWriter |
| 08:02.56 | onoff | i use a StreamResult result = new StreamResult( System.out ); for XML Transform |
| 08:04.41 | onoff | any idea how to do that? |
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| 08:08.06 | onoff | come one anyone pls |
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| 10:22.26 | eeaaxx | who knows to shutdown tomcat with jmx enabled? |
| 10:26.17 | valmont | http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/06/03/reintroducing-sip-free-calling-for-all/ |
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| 18:59.09 | bwlang | hi... i'm about to install tomcat4 on debian and am wondering about which j2se to install 1.4 or 1.5? |
| 19:09.57 | linuxfreck | both will work |
| 19:10.16 | linuxfreck | but why do you install tomcat4? do you have to support legacy applications? |
| 19:10.53 | bwlang | linuxfreck: well debian has not packaged tomcat5 ... |
| 19:12.05 | linuxfreck | bwlang: well you should get the distribution from jakarta.apache.org |
| 19:12.23 | linuxfreck | I don't like many of the distributions, for they do wierd things to tomcat |
| 19:13.22 | linuxfreck | and tomcat 5 has several performance improvements and supports newer jsp and servlet standards |
| 19:14.15 | bwlang | linuxfreck: i don't install anything that is not packaged... this will be a low volume site so i don't think it's worth my effort to package up tomcat5 |
| 19:14.38 | linuxfreck | k |
| 19:14.52 | linuxfreck | you probably want to make a java 1.4 package using the java-package |
| 19:15.27 | linuxfreck | you need the sdk and not the runtime environment though |
| 19:16.00 | bwlang | yeah.... you think 1.4 instead of 1.5... i do that to be safe |
| 19:16.35 | linuxfreck | 1.5 introduces a few incompatibilities, so I recommend against it for tomcat 4 sites |
| 19:17.01 | bwlang | thanks for the advice! |
| 19:18.39 | linuxfreck | np |
| 19:25.38 | jasonb | linuxfreck: What incompatibilities? |
| 19:29.49 | linuxfreck | jasonb: nothing serious, http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/compatibility.html |
| 19:32.28 | linuxfreck | things that can hit tomcat users are that enum isn't a valid identifier and that you can't compare java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date anymore |
| 19:37.34 | jasonb | Well, the enum thing is only a problem if you're compiling from source, and you can compile with 1.4 if you want, and deploy on 1.5. |
| 19:38.38 | jasonb | I didn't know about the Timestamp & Date problem.. I guess that would cause a runtime problem. |
| 19:39.17 | linuxfreck | jasonb: the enum problem may hit tomcat4 and 5.0 users when compiling jsp pages |
| 19:39.19 | jasonb | I have never seen anyone have difficulty with that though. |
| 19:39.39 | linuxfreck | 5.5 doesn't use the j2se compiler anymore iirc |
| 19:39.57 | jasonb | Well, yes, it's true that JSP authors can add scriptlets that contain a variable named "enum", but that seems pretty unlikely. |
| 19:40.23 | jasonb | 5.5 *can* use the j2se compiler, but doesn't by default. |
| 19:41.30 | linuxfreck | enum is a stupid identifier name indeed, but people have stupid ideas :) |
| 19:42.03 | linuxfreck | I think even the tomcat source used to have identifiers called enum |
| 19:42.06 | jasonb | True. But, developers usually aren't *quite* as stupid as regular users. :) |
| 19:43.03 | linuxfreck | that reminds me that I should visit www.thedailywtf.com again :) |
| 19:43.18 | jasonb | Yes, I believe that the Tomcat source used to have "enum" variables, but those were removed. Plus, if everyone's using the release binaries (like just about everyone should), it's compiled via Java 1.4 anyway, so you never get bit by that. |
| 19:44.07 | linuxfreck | it's a site that lists programming wierdnesses |
| 19:44.08 | jasonb | linuxfreck: Also, do you have a URL about the Timestamp & Date comparison problem? |
| 19:44.39 | linuxfreck | nope, I wasn't hit by that yet |
| 19:45.15 | jasonb | How did you learn about it then? |
| 19:45.28 | linuxfreck | people in #java were complaining |
| 19:47.28 | jasonb | Ahh. |
| 19:49.00 | linuxfreck | I really don't like that java date and time classes at all |
| 19:49.26 | linuxfreck | there are too many different classes that basically do the same, plus GregorianCalendar is overly complicated |
| 19:53.01 | jasonb | Well, time itself, on a round world, is very complex, and humans have made it even more so. |
| 19:53.27 | jasonb | I'm sure that Sun tried to keep it as reasonable as they could.. it's just not, in the bigger picture. |
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| 21:55.37 | Apodemos | hi |
| 21:56.01 | Apodemos | someone use tomcatadmin? |
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| 22:29.39 | marfis | jasonb, thanks for your reply at tomcat-dev list... |
| 22:37.16 | Apodemos | marfis can i ask you ine question? |
| 22:43.17 | marfis | shure |
| 22:45.08 | marfis | Apodemos, feel free to ask... |
| 22:55.09 | Apodemos | ok |
| 22:55.20 | Apodemos | i want to install tomcat admin |
| 22:55.41 | Apodemos | but i do not understand the right way |
| 23:43.43 | jasonb | marfis: Not a problem. I believe some of the committers ahve been a bit too rash about asking people not to post on the dev list.. then some newbie users feel all high and mighty and try to emulate that behavior, hence the reply you got. |
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| 23:47.44 | marfis | jasonb, noprob, hope someone will fix it, better for all who want to build from sources... we will try to build tomcat with ant 1.6.5, they are packaging the new version for arch right now. hope this works as expected :) |
| 23:49.09 | marfis | n8 @ all |
| 23:49.13 | jasonb | marfis: From what I've heard, Ant 1.6.5 should work. |
| 23:49.27 | marfis | ok, sounds good, thanks again :) |
| 23:49.34 | jasonb | marfis: No prob. Cheers. |