| 00:20.34 | *** join/#tomcat spinkz (~spinkz@CPE00119576010b-CM000a739a7473.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:21.43 | spinkz | I want to have a class Database that I use to access the database from various jsp pages. Should I make this a servlet even though it will never output html? |
| 00:50.04 | *** join/#tomcat perdenab_ (~perdenab_@pool-68-236-54-185.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:50.30 | *** join/#tomcat sbk (~user@mta.snapfish.com) |
| 00:51.15 | sbk | any apache/apr pool experts lurking? :-) have a question that doesn't seem to have gotten much traction in #apache -- related to the thread safety of apr_pool |
| 00:54.49 | *** join/#tomcat supergeek (~daniel@69-160-88-208.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 01:28.46 | *** join/#tomcat vinse (~delfonic_@adsl-67-124-104-147.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 02:00.17 | *** join/#tomcat loktar2 (EatMyShort@ns20322.ovh.net) |
| 02:09.32 | *** join/#tomcat valmont (~chrisholl@adsl-69-227-175-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 02:40.08 | *** join/#tomcat valmont (~chrisholl@adsl-69-227-175-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 03:29.05 | *** join/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@ask14-66.qualitynet.net) |
| 03:33.36 | a4akb | alo |
| 03:40.35 | *** join/#tomcat larry (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 03:51.08 | *** join/#tomcat jasonb (noneoyerbi@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 05:47.09 | *** join/#tomcat loquace (~seb@aqu33-4-82-233-55-6.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:49.57 | loquace | lo |
| 05:53.07 | *** join/#tomcat quas (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 06:00.16 | *** join/#tomcat loktar2 (EatMyShort@ems01.your-freedom.de) |
| 06:47.32 | puff | Evenin. |
| 06:53.06 | *** join/#tomcat vinse (~delfonic_@adsl-67-124-104-52.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 07:07.32 | *** join/#tomcat joered (~chatter@81-208-83-246.fastres.net) |
| 07:08.30 | puff | Hm, y'know, what are the implications of upping the max processors? |
| 07:08.43 | puff | I remember java used to top out around 1K threads. |
| 07:08.52 | puff | J2SE used to top out, that is. |
| 07:09.15 | puff | How does tomcat react when it exceeds max processors? |
| 07:30.37 | *** join/#tomcat linuxfreck (~freck@p5492A067.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:46.00 | *** join/#tomcat joered (~chatter@81-208-83-246.fastres.net) |
| 08:05.12 | *** join/#tomcat quas (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 08:35.17 | *** join/#tomcat Psycho (~brainScan@219.95.19.226) |
| 08:49.31 | *** join/#tomcat Psycho (~brainScan@219.95.19.226) |
| 09:39.18 | *** join/#tomcat valmont (~chrisholl@valmont.silver.supporter.pdpc) |
| 10:00.30 | *** join/#tomcat loktar2 (EatMyShort@67.159.5.116) |
| 10:26.34 | *** join/#tomcat attilla (~attilla@85.97.207.64) |
| 10:26.36 | *** part/#tomcat attilla (~attilla@85.97.207.64) |
| 11:01.48 | *** join/#tomcat larry_ (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 11:11.32 | *** join/#tomcat harpoon (stueber@ultra20.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 11:47.01 | *** join/#tomcat jimmy (~jimmy@chello062178069199.24.11.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 11:48.00 | jimmy | hi i am using 5.5.9 but i dont know where to find the admin package (which is distributed seperately) |
| 11:48.16 | jimmy | where can i obtain the admin package ? |
| 11:49.06 | harpoon | at the same side you have found tomcat |
| 11:49.32 | harpoon | just have a look on the several downloadlinks |
| 11:50.00 | harpoon | there you will find somesthing with -admin in it's name |
| 11:50.44 | jimmy | aah thx |
| 11:50.47 | jimmy | i have found it |
| 12:28.27 | *** join/#tomcat Snuff (~tbel3393@CPE-149-167-216-12.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 12:31.07 | *** join/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@62.150.168.161) |
| 12:32.05 | loquace | brb |
| 12:32.11 | a4akb | lo |
| 12:43.40 | Snuff | hi |
| 12:43.48 | a4akb | yo |
| 12:50.30 | *** join/#tomcat loquace (~seb@aqu33-4-82-233-55-6.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:51.19 | a4akb | lo |
| 12:51.20 | a4akb | re |
| 12:51.21 | a4akb | yo |
| 12:51.39 | loquace | re |
| 12:52.29 | a4akb | sup |
| 13:05.37 | *** join/#tomcat nelchael (~nelchael@bkb77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:05.44 | nelchael | hi |
| 13:06.24 | nelchael | about JCS: could someone help me with such exception: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fh52PM87.html ? |
| 13:12.12 | *** join/#tomcat mod_cure (~Cure@cpe-66-68-22-71.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 13:13.51 | *** join/#tomcat larry_ (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 13:18.48 | nelchael | about JCS: could someone help me with such exception: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fh52PM87.html ? |
| 13:25.08 | Snuff | nelchael:have you found a file in that stack trace that you wrote yourself? |
| 13:25.19 | nelchael | yes |
| 13:25.32 | nelchael | but it fails in JCS class |
| 13:26.31 | nelchael | misc.nelchael and _jsp are mine |
| 13:28.37 | Snuff | Is the SiatkaManager.java file yours ? Whats on line 36? |
| 13:29.00 | nelchael | cache = JCS.getInstance("siatkacache"); |
| 13:29.12 | nelchael | it's all in try{} catche(){} |
| 13:29.39 | nelchael | Snuff: http://rafb.net/paste/results/62cmQo37.html |
| 13:29.57 | nelchael | line numbers are +13 |
| 13:32.44 | Snuff | If I am on the wrong track tell me but have you overridden the getInstance(String) method somewhere else? |
| 13:33.18 | nelchael | no |
| 13:34.27 | Snuff | Sorry but I am out of ideas or questions for now. |
| 13:35.01 | nelchael | Snuff: it gets more interesting |
| 13:35.20 | nelchael | just before the previously mentioned exception this one: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vsOWCm33.html occurs |
| 13:35.28 | nelchael | it's something with cache.ccf |
| 13:37.21 | nelchael | cache.ccf can be places in WEB-INF/lib directory, or somewhere else? |
| 13:40.36 | nelchael | ok, I'm starting to get somewhere... |
| 13:40.54 | nelchael | http://rafb.net/paste/results/bGg0ji61.html |
| 13:42.06 | nelchael | after adding concurent it works :) |
| 13:42.21 | nelchael | cache.ccf has to be in WEB-INF/classes, not WEB-INF/lib :) |
| 13:50.06 | Snuff | great. I was gone for a minute and I have to go again now |
| 13:51.35 | nelchael | :) |
| 13:56.04 | *** part/#tomcat nelchael (~nelchael@bkb77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 14:00.17 | *** join/#tomcat loktar__ (EatMyShort@ems02.your-freedom.de) |
| 14:42.37 | *** join/#tomcat hugues__ (~chatzilla@private.netc.net) |
| 14:43.46 | hugues__ | hi there |
| 14:43.55 | Snuff | hi |
| 14:44.03 | hugues__ | I need information about the following error "Protocol handler start failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot recover key" |
| 14:44.51 | hugues__ | I try to setup my tomcat with SSL support, but I get that error everytime I start Tomcat (5.5.7). |
| 14:45.20 | *** join/#tomcat FreemaniaX (~Freemania@67.153.106.58) |
| 14:46.31 | Snuff | did you create a key using the correct program? Called keytool or keygen I think? |
| 14:47.34 | hugues__ | Yes, I used keytool that comes with jdk 1.4.2. |
| 14:48.30 | hugues__ | I created the key alias "tomcat" as instructed in the "SSL Configuration How-To". |
| 14:59.58 | *** part/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@62.150.168.161) |
| 15:17.59 | hugues__ | I enabled logging and found the following error: |
| 15:18.01 | hugues__ | 22-Jul-2005 11:16:11 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SSLImplementation getInstance |
| 15:18.02 | hugues__ | FINE: Error loading SSL Implementation org.apache.tomcat.util.net.puretls.PureTLSImplementation |
| 15:18.04 | hugues__ | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: COM.claymoresystems.ptls.SSLContext |
| 15:18.06 | hugues__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.38 | *** join/#tomcat cilquirm (~Soda@65.246.162.129) |
| 15:45.08 | *** join/#tomcat hugues__ (~chatzilla@private.netc.net) |
| 16:12.52 | *** join/#tomcat jasonb (noneoyerbi@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 16:20.16 | *** join/#tomcat troy__ (gravitron@c-67-183-147-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 16:20.44 | *** part/#tomcat troy__ (gravitron@c-67-183-147-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 16:24.04 | *** join/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@as7-189.qualitynet.net) |
| 16:40.27 | *** join/#tomcat daeamarth (~daeamarth@71.4.78.2.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 16:41.14 | daeamarth | Anyone here familiar with logforj? |
| 16:41.33 | cilquirm | log4j? |
| 16:42.01 | daeamarth | Guess. lol |
| 16:42.15 | daeamarth | Know if it is capable of logging to a remote server? |
| 16:42.52 | cilquirm | daeamarth, you can, if you set it up to use the socketlogger |
| 16:43.01 | cilquirm | you should look up the chainsaw stuff |
| 16:43.03 | daeamarth | It was just mentioned to me by verbal name so didnt know if it was for or 4. Just stared to google and got the homepage now... |
| 16:43.41 | daeamarth | cilquirm: Ok. Will do. Thanks for setting me straight on the naming. Ill rumage through the project page and see if I can figure things out. |
| 16:44.07 | cilquirm | daeamarth, just fyi, the documentation on Log4j is terribly poor. they expect you to buy the books |
| 16:45.43 | daeamarth | Someone here probably has the books Id suspect. |
| 16:46.07 | daeamarth | Im just an IT grunt trying to find a solution to its use by others. You can tell how much I knew about it by the fact I had the name spelling wrong. =) |
| 16:46.23 | daeamarth | Ill learn more though just have to RTFM. =) |
| 16:47.43 | cilquirm | RTJD also, that helps more than anything |
| 16:48.29 | daeamarth | java docs? |
| 16:53.39 | cilquirm | yep |
| 18:00.17 | *** join/#tomcat loktar__ (EatMyShort@ns20324.ovh.net) |
| 18:02.17 | *** join/#tomcat linuxfreck (~freck@p5492A067.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:31.52 | *** join/#tomcat hoho (~hoho@63.91.82.20) |
| 18:32.24 | hoho | Having some trouble with response.sendRedirect("mypage.jsp") using 5.5.9... I get a 404. When I hit the page directly in the browser, it works though. |
| 18:32.44 | hoho | Not writing to the output stream before the redirect either, it's the 1st line (because I am sanity checking) |
| 18:58.13 | *** join/#tomcat Magnifikus (~vst@muedsl-82-207-234-167.citykom.de) |
| 18:59.41 | *** join/#tomcat vinse (~delfonic_@adsl-64-160-45-243.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 19:15.27 | *** join/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@ask14-117.qualitynet.net) |
| 19:25.08 | *** join/#tomcat quas (~larry@209.176.25.234) |
| 19:25.36 | quas | yo |
| 19:34.52 | a4akb | ibot yo |
| 19:34.52 | ibot | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
| 19:52.55 | *** part/#tomcat a4akb (a4akb@ask14-117.qualitynet.net) |
| 21:30.13 | *** join/#tomcat joered (~chatter@81-208-83-246.fastres.net) |
| 21:52.42 | *** join/#tomcat kwbrads (~bschaefer@el78-111.med.utah.edu) |
| 21:53.26 | kwbrads | How would you respond to a boss who isn't sure that Tomcat is robust enough for a website that gets maybe... 30k hits/month? |
| 21:53.55 | loquace | good night |
| 21:55.01 | kwbrads | for example could you point me to a relatively high-traffic web app using tomcat? |
| 21:57.05 | jasonb | kwbrads: At my last job I worked at a company that served over 60 million dynamic (JSP) page views per day on just Tomcat 4.1.27 alone (no apache httpd crud). |
| 21:57.39 | jasonb | kwbrads: Since then, Tomcat has become more performant, more stable, faster, and smaller runtime memory footprint. |
| 21:57.41 | kwbrads | jasonb: is it something that has a public face I can point to? |
| 21:58.02 | jasonb | kwbrads: Not now. |
| 21:58.36 | kwbrads | jasonb: sadly I -know- what the problems with this webapp are |
| 21:59.25 | kwbrads | I guess replacing the container seems like less work to a boss than redesigning an app from scratch because the prototype design sucked monkey balls |
| 22:00.00 | jasonb | kwbrads: Probably. But, to caution him, you should tell him that Tomcat really is the fastest servlet container all-around. |
| 22:01.26 | kwbrads | stability is more important than speed in this scenario. Well, the speed is abysmal too, but that's also a design issue |
| 22:02.41 | kwbrads | I think the stability may be somewhat affected by the server being a poorly administered windows box as well |
| 22:02.48 | kwbrads | so many problems.. :P |
| 22:02.55 | jasonb | It's difficult to determine which servlet container is really the most stable. But, I can tell you, Tomcat 5.5.9 is very stable. |
| 22:03.24 | jasonb | Well, then you're asking for stability problems, and it isn't really Tomcat's fault.. which version of Tomcat are you running though? |
| 22:03.37 | kwbrads | I think we're on 5.0.28 ... I should probably update that also |
| 22:04.11 | kwbrads | it's also using IIS via jk2 |
| 22:04.21 | kwbrads | (I don't know WHY) |
| 22:16.11 | jasonb | Well, *that* will cause instabilities. (IIS) |
| 22:16.52 | jasonb | Also, you really should not use 5.0. You should use 5.5.9 right now. And, I'm not just saying that because I like new versions. I'm saying that because 5.0 is not a good version of Tomcat to run. |
| 22:17.15 | kwbrads | well, when we put it on the server it was the latest |
| 22:17.18 | kwbrads | obviously it's been a while |
| 22:17.44 | jasonb | Yeah, it was okay until the developers started doing 5.5 and basically dropped everything they were doing in 5.0. |
| 22:18.26 | kwbrads | I'll have to deal with that Tuesday, though.. Monday is a state holiday for us, and I don't really want to put a new version up last thing friday |
| 22:18.52 | kwbrads | so hopefully 5.0.28 gets us through the weekend :P |
| 22:19.13 | jasonb | It should. |
| 22:19.27 | kwbrads | I mentioned the 60 million hits/day thing, and I think that helped with the boss |
| 22:19.44 | jasonb | It should. |
| 22:19.50 | kwbrads | thanks ;) it's always good to assault them with numbers |
| 22:20.34 | vinse | just fyi: 5.5.10 may be out this weekend, at least that's the impression i got from the mailing list |
| 22:20.35 | jasonb | Tomcat's web server is very good as well.. far more stable than your IIS --> Tomcat setup. |
| 22:20.54 | jasonb | vinse: It'll be tagged this weekend, but its stability will be unknown for a while. |
| 22:21.13 | vinse | ah ok ;) |
| 22:21.15 | jasonb | vinse: We can't really suggest it as stable *before* the testing (by the committers) is complete. |
| 22:21.51 | vinse | kwbrads: why are you using IIS? if you arent integrating with an exsisting site on the IIS server you're gaining nothing but problems |
| 22:21.52 | jasonb | 5.5.9 is quite nice. Stable, and very few bugs have been found, and nothing serious. |
| 22:21.55 | kwbrads | jasonb: yeah... I agree... I think the perception from up above was that IIS would serve the static site content faster(?), but I honestly cannot say that I found serving static content from Tomcat to be noticably slow in any way |
| 22:22.28 | kwbrads | vinse: agreed |
| 22:22.35 | kwbrads | vinse: it just wasn't up to me |
| 22:22.37 | vinse | kwbrads: "up above" is getting it's perception from 3 years ago or something :/ |
| 22:22.47 | jasonb | kwbrads: Serving static content from Tomcat 5.5.9 is faster than serving static content from Apache HTTPD 2.0.x. So, I think it's likely to be around the same speed as IIS anyway. |
| 22:23.17 | kwbrads | vinse: if not from longer ago |
| 22:23.36 | vinse | jasonb: i've heard you say that before, and while i'm certainly not saying i dont agree with you, i feel bound to mention that your'e the only one i see saying that :x |
| 22:25.56 | kwbrads | With ANY webserver, how often do you hear "damn, this static content is going so slow.. must be the webserver" |
| 22:26.20 | kwbrads | unless it's hit by slashdot or some DDOS anomoly |
| 22:28.00 | kwbrads | most sites I see getting slashdotted are dynamic pages too. (not) surprisingly sites that are generated rather than hitting the db everytime seem to withstand the slashdot effect |
| 22:28.02 | jasonb | vinse: other committers on the tomcat-dev are saying it while showing benchmark numbers along with config files and tester scripts. |
| 22:29.05 | kwbrads | so any way you slice it, I have no idea why IIS is in the mix |
| 22:29.40 | jasonb | Yeah, people still insist on using it. *shrug* |
| 22:53.31 | *** part/#tomcat kwbrads (~bschaefer@el78-111.med.utah.edu) |
| 23:29.17 | *** join/#tomcat ohad (~ohad@22-231-13-72.cosmoweb.net) |
| 23:29.27 | ohad | hi all, does anyone here use scalix ? |
| 23:29.41 | ohad | i am having a problem with tomcat and my scalix |
| 23:29.50 | ohad | i have defined my server as x.mydomain.com |
| 23:30.04 | ohad | for some reason tomcat is looking for y.mydomain.com |
| 23:30.08 | ohad | ideas? |