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00:21.43 | spinkz | I want to have a class Database that I use to access the database from various jsp pages. Should I make this a servlet even though it will never output html? |
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00:51.15 | sbk | any apache/apr pool experts lurking? :-) have a question that doesn't seem to have gotten much traction in #apache -- related to the thread safety of apr_pool |
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03:33.36 | a4akb | alo |
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06:47.32 | puff | Evenin. |
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07:08.30 | puff | Hm, y'know, what are the implications of upping the max processors? |
07:08.43 | puff | I remember java used to top out around 1K threads. |
07:08.52 | puff | J2SE used to top out, that is. |
07:09.15 | puff | How does tomcat react when it exceeds max processors? |
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11:48.00 | jimmy | hi i am using 5.5.9 but i dont know where to find the admin package (which is distributed seperately) |
11:48.16 | jimmy | where can i obtain the admin package ? |
11:49.06 | harpoon | at the same side you have found tomcat |
11:49.32 | harpoon | just have a look on the several downloadlinks |
11:50.00 | harpoon | there you will find somesthing with -admin in it's name |
11:50.44 | jimmy | aah thx |
11:50.47 | jimmy | i have found it |
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12:32.05 | loquace | brb |
12:32.11 | a4akb | lo |
12:43.40 | Snuff | hi |
12:43.48 | a4akb | yo |
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12:51.20 | a4akb | re |
12:51.21 | a4akb | yo |
12:51.39 | loquace | re |
12:52.29 | a4akb | sup |
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13:05.44 | nelchael | hi |
13:06.24 | nelchael | about JCS: could someone help me with such exception: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fh52PM87.html ? |
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13:18.48 | nelchael | about JCS: could someone help me with such exception: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fh52PM87.html ? |
13:25.08 | Snuff | nelchael:have you found a file in that stack trace that you wrote yourself? |
13:25.19 | nelchael | yes |
13:25.32 | nelchael | but it fails in JCS class |
13:26.31 | nelchael | misc.nelchael and _jsp are mine |
13:28.37 | Snuff | Is the SiatkaManager.java file yours ? Whats on line 36? |
13:29.00 | nelchael | cache = JCS.getInstance("siatkacache"); |
13:29.12 | nelchael | it's all in try{} catche(){} |
13:29.39 | nelchael | Snuff: http://rafb.net/paste/results/62cmQo37.html |
13:29.57 | nelchael | line numbers are +13 |
13:32.44 | Snuff | If I am on the wrong track tell me but have you overridden the getInstance(String) method somewhere else? |
13:33.18 | nelchael | no |
13:34.27 | Snuff | Sorry but I am out of ideas or questions for now. |
13:35.01 | nelchael | Snuff: it gets more interesting |
13:35.20 | nelchael | just before the previously mentioned exception this one: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vsOWCm33.html occurs |
13:35.28 | nelchael | it's something with cache.ccf |
13:37.21 | nelchael | cache.ccf can be places in WEB-INF/lib directory, or somewhere else? |
13:40.36 | nelchael | ok, I'm starting to get somewhere... |
13:40.54 | nelchael | http://rafb.net/paste/results/bGg0ji61.html |
13:42.06 | nelchael | after adding concurent it works :) |
13:42.21 | nelchael | cache.ccf has to be in WEB-INF/classes, not WEB-INF/lib :) |
13:50.06 | Snuff | great. I was gone for a minute and I have to go again now |
13:51.35 | nelchael | :) |
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14:43.46 | hugues__ | hi there |
14:43.55 | Snuff | hi |
14:44.03 | hugues__ | I need information about the following error "Protocol handler start failed: java.io.IOException: Cannot recover key" |
14:44.51 | hugues__ | I try to setup my tomcat with SSL support, but I get that error everytime I start Tomcat (5.5.7). |
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14:46.31 | Snuff | did you create a key using the correct program? Called keytool or keygen I think? |
14:47.34 | hugues__ | Yes, I used keytool that comes with jdk 1.4.2. |
14:48.30 | hugues__ | I created the key alias "tomcat" as instructed in the "SSL Configuration How-To". |
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15:17.59 | hugues__ | I enabled logging and found the following error: |
15:18.01 | hugues__ | 22-Jul-2005 11:16:11 AM org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SSLImplementation getInstance |
15:18.02 | hugues__ | FINE: Error loading SSL Implementation org.apache.tomcat.util.net.puretls.PureTLSImplementation |
15:18.04 | hugues__ | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: COM.claymoresystems.ptls.SSLContext |
15:18.06 | hugues__ | <PROTECTED> |
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16:41.14 | daeamarth | Anyone here familiar with logforj? |
16:41.33 | cilquirm | log4j? |
16:42.01 | daeamarth | Guess. lol |
16:42.15 | daeamarth | Know if it is capable of logging to a remote server? |
16:42.52 | cilquirm | daeamarth, you can, if you set it up to use the socketlogger |
16:43.01 | cilquirm | you should look up the chainsaw stuff |
16:43.03 | daeamarth | It was just mentioned to me by verbal name so didnt know if it was for or 4. Just stared to google and got the homepage now... |
16:43.41 | daeamarth | cilquirm: Ok. Will do. Thanks for setting me straight on the naming. Ill rumage through the project page and see if I can figure things out. |
16:44.07 | cilquirm | daeamarth, just fyi, the documentation on Log4j is terribly poor. they expect you to buy the books |
16:45.43 | daeamarth | Someone here probably has the books Id suspect. |
16:46.07 | daeamarth | Im just an IT grunt trying to find a solution to its use by others. You can tell how much I knew about it by the fact I had the name spelling wrong. =) |
16:46.23 | daeamarth | Ill learn more though just have to RTFM. =) |
16:47.43 | cilquirm | RTJD also, that helps more than anything |
16:48.29 | daeamarth | java docs? |
16:53.39 | cilquirm | yep |
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18:32.24 | hoho | Having some trouble with response.sendRedirect("mypage.jsp") using 5.5.9... I get a 404. When I hit the page directly in the browser, it works though. |
18:32.44 | hoho | Not writing to the output stream before the redirect either, it's the 1st line (because I am sanity checking) |
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19:25.36 | quas | yo |
19:34.52 | a4akb | ibot yo |
19:34.52 | ibot | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
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21:53.26 | kwbrads | How would you respond to a boss who isn't sure that Tomcat is robust enough for a website that gets maybe... 30k hits/month? |
21:53.55 | loquace | good night |
21:55.01 | kwbrads | for example could you point me to a relatively high-traffic web app using tomcat? |
21:57.05 | jasonb | kwbrads: At my last job I worked at a company that served over 60 million dynamic (JSP) page views per day on just Tomcat 4.1.27 alone (no apache httpd crud). |
21:57.39 | jasonb | kwbrads: Since then, Tomcat has become more performant, more stable, faster, and smaller runtime memory footprint. |
21:57.41 | kwbrads | jasonb: is it something that has a public face I can point to? |
21:58.02 | jasonb | kwbrads: Not now. |
21:58.36 | kwbrads | jasonb: sadly I -know- what the problems with this webapp are |
21:59.25 | kwbrads | I guess replacing the container seems like less work to a boss than redesigning an app from scratch because the prototype design sucked monkey balls |
22:00.00 | jasonb | kwbrads: Probably. But, to caution him, you should tell him that Tomcat really is the fastest servlet container all-around. |
22:01.26 | kwbrads | stability is more important than speed in this scenario. Well, the speed is abysmal too, but that's also a design issue |
22:02.41 | kwbrads | I think the stability may be somewhat affected by the server being a poorly administered windows box as well |
22:02.48 | kwbrads | so many problems.. :P |
22:02.55 | jasonb | It's difficult to determine which servlet container is really the most stable. But, I can tell you, Tomcat 5.5.9 is very stable. |
22:03.24 | jasonb | Well, then you're asking for stability problems, and it isn't really Tomcat's fault.. which version of Tomcat are you running though? |
22:03.37 | kwbrads | I think we're on 5.0.28 ... I should probably update that also |
22:04.11 | kwbrads | it's also using IIS via jk2 |
22:04.21 | kwbrads | (I don't know WHY) |
22:16.11 | jasonb | Well, *that* will cause instabilities. (IIS) |
22:16.52 | jasonb | Also, you really should not use 5.0. You should use 5.5.9 right now. And, I'm not just saying that because I like new versions. I'm saying that because 5.0 is not a good version of Tomcat to run. |
22:17.15 | kwbrads | well, when we put it on the server it was the latest |
22:17.18 | kwbrads | obviously it's been a while |
22:17.44 | jasonb | Yeah, it was okay until the developers started doing 5.5 and basically dropped everything they were doing in 5.0. |
22:18.26 | kwbrads | I'll have to deal with that Tuesday, though.. Monday is a state holiday for us, and I don't really want to put a new version up last thing friday |
22:18.52 | kwbrads | so hopefully 5.0.28 gets us through the weekend :P |
22:19.13 | jasonb | It should. |
22:19.27 | kwbrads | I mentioned the 60 million hits/day thing, and I think that helped with the boss |
22:19.44 | jasonb | It should. |
22:19.50 | kwbrads | thanks ;) it's always good to assault them with numbers |
22:20.34 | vinse | just fyi: 5.5.10 may be out this weekend, at least that's the impression i got from the mailing list |
22:20.35 | jasonb | Tomcat's web server is very good as well.. far more stable than your IIS --> Tomcat setup. |
22:20.54 | jasonb | vinse: It'll be tagged this weekend, but its stability will be unknown for a while. |
22:21.13 | vinse | ah ok ;) |
22:21.15 | jasonb | vinse: We can't really suggest it as stable *before* the testing (by the committers) is complete. |
22:21.51 | vinse | kwbrads: why are you using IIS? if you arent integrating with an exsisting site on the IIS server you're gaining nothing but problems |
22:21.52 | jasonb | 5.5.9 is quite nice. Stable, and very few bugs have been found, and nothing serious. |
22:21.55 | kwbrads | jasonb: yeah... I agree... I think the perception from up above was that IIS would serve the static site content faster(?), but I honestly cannot say that I found serving static content from Tomcat to be noticably slow in any way |
22:22.28 | kwbrads | vinse: agreed |
22:22.35 | kwbrads | vinse: it just wasn't up to me |
22:22.37 | vinse | kwbrads: "up above" is getting it's perception from 3 years ago or something :/ |
22:22.47 | jasonb | kwbrads: Serving static content from Tomcat 5.5.9 is faster than serving static content from Apache HTTPD 2.0.x. So, I think it's likely to be around the same speed as IIS anyway. |
22:23.17 | kwbrads | vinse: if not from longer ago |
22:23.36 | vinse | jasonb: i've heard you say that before, and while i'm certainly not saying i dont agree with you, i feel bound to mention that your'e the only one i see saying that :x |
22:25.56 | kwbrads | With ANY webserver, how often do you hear "damn, this static content is going so slow.. must be the webserver" |
22:26.20 | kwbrads | unless it's hit by slashdot or some DDOS anomoly |
22:28.00 | kwbrads | most sites I see getting slashdotted are dynamic pages too. (not) surprisingly sites that are generated rather than hitting the db everytime seem to withstand the slashdot effect |
22:28.02 | jasonb | vinse: other committers on the tomcat-dev are saying it while showing benchmark numbers along with config files and tester scripts. |
22:29.05 | kwbrads | so any way you slice it, I have no idea why IIS is in the mix |
22:29.40 | jasonb | Yeah, people still insist on using it. *shrug* |
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23:29.27 | ohad | hi all, does anyone here use scalix ? |
23:29.41 | ohad | i am having a problem with tomcat and my scalix |
23:29.50 | ohad | i have defined my server as x.mydomain.com |
23:30.04 | ohad | for some reason tomcat is looking for y.mydomain.com |
23:30.08 | ohad | ideas? |