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01:22.44lykenlol
01:22.49lykenwhy cursing apple
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03:54.47strobedreamhey lyken
03:57.12lykenyo
03:57.24lykenmy fkn laptop wont freaking get router outta my network
03:57.27lykenso no msn / aim!
03:57.32strobedreamlol
03:57.58strobedreamyeah nothing makes you feel more like a man then installing gentoo and having it boot on first try
03:58.27strobedreamespecially when your sees you all happy and walks out the door in booty shorts and a corset....
03:58.37strobedreamGF sees*
03:58.55strobedreamsigh
03:59.15lykenlol
04:00.34strobedreamyeah she'll be back
04:00.46strobedreamoh btw why do you use msn?
04:02.32lykencause of work
04:03.06strobedreamso what do they require msn?
04:03.17lykennah
04:03.20lykeneveryone just uses it
04:03.24lykenso i got it for that
04:03.38strobedreamahh
04:03.49lykeni cant turn up and go
04:03.53lykeneveryone use aim, cause im awesome
04:04.00lykendoesnt work unfortunately
04:06.59strobedreamwow
04:07.06strobedreamI have nothing to say to that
04:07.35strobedreamoh my gf randomly showed up with an awesome tape of some local DJs house set today
04:07.43strobedreammy jaw hit the floor when I heard it.
04:07.49strobedreamit was sooo good.
04:08.05strobedreamalthough I have gotten used to the sucky club residents
04:08.20strobedreamthat play pussycat dolls everyother song
04:27.36lykenlol
04:27.38lykenheh
04:27.44lykenin the last 3 weeks
04:27.47lykenive spent $1k on records
04:27.59lykenand about to buy another 15 today
04:28.24strobedreamNICE
04:28.29lykenheh yer..
04:28.37strobedreamI'm sooo going to australia some time and we are gonna party
04:28.38lykenjust bought a new file server case too
04:28.38lyken:)
04:28.44strobedreamnice
04:28.49lykenand new skate shoes
04:28.49lykenhehe
04:28.55lykenive had a retail black out
04:28.59lykenoh
04:29.03lykengodskitchen tonight too!
04:29.06lykensoooo can't wait
04:30.13strobedreamnice
04:30.30strobedreamI leave to flagstaff tomorrow for a weekend of hang gliding
04:31.24lykenooh
04:31.29lykenif you go later this year
04:31.31lykenyou could get a few runs
04:31.34lykendown the mountaing :)
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04:31.51lykenmy friend was from flagstaff, joy
04:31.56lykenhottie blonde girly :)
04:31.58lykensup jase
04:32.57strobedreamlol
04:32.58jasonb_workHey there lyken
04:33.11jasonb_workHow are things?
04:33.26lykeni got a big night ahead
04:42.35jasonb_workWhat's the big event?
04:43.11lyken10 hr dance party :)
04:43.24jasonb_workWow.  You're going to be tired.
04:43.44lykennah
04:43.49jasonb_workYou should walk in there wearing 10 pound leg weights.  :)
04:43.50lykeni slepted early last night
04:44.01lykenand im gonna hve another nap before tonight
04:44.37jasonb_worklyken: BTW: FC4 works great on PowerBook G4s.. with a little tinkering of course.  :)
04:44.45lykendoes it?
04:44.46lykenhehe
04:44.49lykeni might give it a shot
04:44.54lykendoes sleep work?
04:45.09jasonb_workIf you do, let me tell you what problems you'll run into.
04:45.16jasonb_workYes, I have sleep working *perfectly* now.
04:45.24lykenlol
04:45.27lykenthey gave you a powerbook?
04:45.47jasonb_workEverything on it works except for the built-in wireless card.. so I brought a pcmcia wireless card from home and that works fine.
04:45.55lykenhmmz
04:46.00lykeni got the airport card working
04:46.05lykenyou just gotta compile your own kernel
04:46.14lykenusing yellow dog drivers
04:46.21jasonb_workYes, they had a couple of powerbooks lying around doing nothing, and their new laptop ordering process takes a few months (!), so I'm using this powerbook in the meantime.
04:46.35jasonb_workWhich drivers??
04:46.39lykenlemme find em
04:47.40lykenheh
04:47.42lykenYLD
04:47.44lykenis like fedora
04:47.48lykenuses yum
04:47.54lykeneverything
04:47.57lykenwell well my friend
04:48.03lykenpowerbooks and linux is my house!
04:48.11jasonb_workExcellent.
04:48.59lykenyer
04:49.00lyken:)
04:49.11lykenid seriously recommend yld 4 mang
04:49.27jasonb_workWell, but why?  I have everything but the internal wireless working now.  :)
04:49.55lykencause they make everything work awesome for powerbooks
04:50.00lykenthe forums and community rocks
04:50.07lykenand its just a reskinned recompiled fedora install anyways
04:50.35jasonb_workWell, I'll have this for hopefully only a few months, max.  Plus, it already works plenty well enough..  I mean I'm tempted to try yellow dog anyway, but I gotta get work done too.
04:50.52lykenwell it'd only take a few hours :)
04:51.06lykenand a distro built for powerbooks is kinda heaps better
04:51.08jasonb_workPlus the time to transfer all my files back on.. ugh
04:51.26lykenlol
04:51.33lykentarget disk mode!
04:51.51lykenlol
04:52.19jasonb_workAnyway, I'm very, *very* impressed with Linux on PPC.
04:52.26lykenyer
04:52.27lykenppc rocks
04:52.37lykenmakes an old powerbook alive again
04:52.40jasonb_workIt works exactly the same as Linux intel.. and this old-ish powerbook G4 doesn't seem slow to me.
04:52.45lykenyer
04:52.49lyken15" i assume?
04:52.54lykenprolly a 1ghz
04:53.06jasonb_workSo, the hardware is pretty decent.  It's just MacOS X that sucks!
04:53.15lykenlol
04:53.17jasonb_workYes, 15"..
04:54.09strobedreamyeah thats why I want one
04:54.12jasonb_workprocessor       : 0
04:54.13jasonb_workcpu             : 7447/7457, altivec supported
04:54.13jasonb_workclock           : 765MHz
04:54.23jasonb_workI think it's actually faster than that..
04:54.32jasonb_workMaybe it's not running at full speed.
04:54.44lykenhmm
04:54.51jasonb_workmachine         : PowerBook5,2
04:54.52jasonb_workmotherboard     : PowerBook5,2 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
04:54.52jasonb_workdetected as     : 287 (PowerBook G4 15")
04:55.03lykenits an 800
04:55.41jasonb_worklyken: Will it let me take the battery out while power is plugged in so I can look in there?
04:56.04lykenyes
04:56.10lykenso long as its got power
04:56.14lykenyou dont even need the batter in there
04:57.14strobedreamI have seen people yanking out their laptop batt while they have ac to save their batt do you think that actually works?
04:57.40lykenno
04:57.45lykenlion batteries
04:57.46lykenno memory
04:57.52lykenand if your powerbook battery sucks
04:57.55lykenreset the pram
04:58.01lykenusually springs some life back into it
04:59.04strobedreamcool
04:59.12strobedreamthats what I thought but wasn't sure
04:59.25strobedreamsince you pretty much know them in and out
04:59.58lykenindeed
05:00.02lykenthe funny thing about all this
05:00.09lykenive only owned a computer since mid 2000
05:00.22lykennow i have more storage than one of my campuses
05:00.27lykenand a powerbill to prove it
05:00.31strobedreamlol
05:01.34lykenarh jasonb_work
05:01.46lykensome powerbook airport is supported others arent
05:01.54lykenlemme check if you'rs is
05:02.15strobedreamhey lyken does free av see java as a virus?
05:02.30lykenum
05:02.31lykeni dunno
05:02.37lykeni havent scanned a indows box n a whiles
05:02.38lykenlol
05:02.44strobedreamol
05:02.45lykeni got a warning the other day
05:02.46strobedreamgreat
05:02.53lyken'you're AV hasnt been upgraded in 196 days'
05:03.34strobedreamNICE
05:03.45lykenmeh its windows
05:03.53lykenive got absoletly nothing of value on here
05:04.08strobedreamI'm just worried about all my movies
05:04.11strobedreamWAAAA
05:04.13lykeni log into a domain, my documents and settings is mounted froom the file server
05:04.27lykenand i have roaming profiles
05:04.34strobedreamsince people have this habit of borrowing my dvds and returning them scratched!!!
05:04.34lykenso i can log into any machine on our network
05:04.37lykenand get the same desktop :)
05:05.13lykenjasonb_work: according to yellowdog site
05:05.19lykenairport is supporting on your model powerbook
05:05.28lykenits just the new ones its not
05:05.31strobedreamnice I need to set up something like taht
05:05.58lykenstrobedream: i also have network book for re-imaging if the machine is busted
05:06.00lykenall running at my house :)
05:06.06lykenwith sys prep so it works on all hardware here
05:06.56strobedreamnice
05:07.22strobedreamthere are so many places here that I know of that would love to hire someone like you
05:07.26lykenworking at a computer science department for 3 years had its advantages
05:07.27strobedreamits really sad
05:09.22lykenheh
05:09.29lykenim a common admin around here
05:09.38lykenjack of all trades, master of none
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05:50.16gans20|malchikhi guys
05:51.05gans20|malchikcan anybody tell me how to return 404 page not found exception from my servlet?
05:51.22lykenuh, tomcat deals with that..
05:53.05gans20|malchikthe resource is in memory and it being returned by my servlet
05:53.15gans20|malchikI need to made something like this
05:53.36gans20|malchikif (resource != null) return resource; else throw 404 exception
05:54.04lykenhuh
05:54.12gans20|malchikcan I do so?
05:54.22lykenwhat is the 'resource'
05:54.44lyken404 is used when a page can't be found on the server, not objects
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05:55.25gans20|malchikI know that, but it means the same for me
05:55.36gans20|malchikI need "else" section here
05:56.00lykeni duno
06:00.10lykenhttp://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=661051&tstart=0
06:00.12lykenmaybe that helps
06:00.17lykennot exactly sure what you want
06:00.19lykenbut might be
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06:26.14jasonb_worklyken: Okay, so inside that battery compartment it says, in part, "1.5GHz/512MB/800"..
06:26.37lykenwtf
06:26.43jasonb_worklyken: So, the CPU should really be 1.25 GHz, right?  (I did mean to write 1.25!)
06:27.02lykensomething is broke
06:27.54jasonb_workPlus, I know for sure this box has more RAM than 512M, so maybe that's a cache size?
06:29.37lyken512 is the default shipping amount
06:29.39lykenthats what that means
06:29.49lykenit allows them to track different models with different amounts of ram
06:30.01lykencause there was a time when 15" powerbooks came with 256/512 depending on the model
06:30.11jasonb_workAlso, /proc/cpufreq doesn't exist.. I wonder how I can make it exist..  maybe load a module that I haven't yet loaded?
06:30.32lykengetting /proc to work cant be diffuclt
06:30.37lykenbut it works fine in yld
06:30.40lyken*hint* *hint*
06:30.42jasonb_workIs 1.25Ghz reasonable for this kind of box?
06:30.49lykenhell yer
06:30.52jasonb_workWell, I have /proc, but not /proc/cpuinfo
06:30.53lykeni wish i had a 1.25
06:31.05lykenive ordered a new one though
06:31.06lykenhehe
06:31.11jasonb_workBut, linux is saying this is an 800Mhz proc??
06:31.47jasonb_workcpu             : 7447/7457, altivec supported
06:31.47jasonb_workclock           : 765MHz
06:32.10jasonb_workHow do I look up the clock speed of a cpu model 7447/7457?
06:33.14jasonb_worklyken: Also, am I correct that there is no Java 1.5 for this?
06:34.19jasonb_worklyken: Have you seen the ppckernel.org site?  Looks interesting, and I may try out a 2.6 kernel from them.
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07:10.40lykeni havent
07:10.43lykennot sure about 1.5
07:10.53lykeni havent powered up the yld4 machine in a whiles
07:13.23jasonb_workyeah.
07:13.55jasonb_workWell, I found web pages that show all kinds of different clock speeds for the same cpu model id.
07:15.12jasonb_workLooks like it's this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_1.25_15.html
07:23.00lykennite jason
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07:34.32pucko*yawn*
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08:07.37Kasicahi
08:07.39Kasicahttp://www.tkostyra.linuxpl.com/main.jsp
08:07.41Kasicawhat is that error
08:08.10Kasicahttp://www.tkostyra.linuxpl.com/index.jsp why he does not recognise my mapping
08:08.26Kasica<servlet-mapping>
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08:10.29Kasicait deploys my application
08:13.54Kasicaanyone?
08:20.39gans20|malchikKasica try /*.kit
08:20.56Kasicagans20|malchik ok
08:21.11Kasicathis servlet was woring on win xp but on linux does not
08:21.14Kasicain logs i see
08:21.21Kasicajavax.servlet.ServletException: Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet or a class it depends on
08:21.32Kasicalike servlet wasnt correctly compiled
08:21.55Kasicathen second notice
08:21.55Kasicajava.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet
08:22.09Kasicaany clue?
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08:33.19gans20|malchikcheck you classpath
08:33.27gans20|malchikyour *
08:33.34Kasicawhere exactly
08:33.42Kasicato seek for it
08:34.01gans20|malchikthis happens on tomcat startup?
08:34.29Kasicayes, when restaring tomcat
08:35.07gans20|malchikÙÅËÇÅ
08:35.34Kasica?
08:36.18gans20|malchikstruts jar in your classpath?
08:36.44gans20|malchikcatalina_home/common/lib or shared/lib
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11:55.17buk:)
11:55.19bukmoin
11:55.25bukhow do I replace the ROOT stuff ?
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12:35.22linuxfreckbuk: <Context path="" docBase="/where/your/webapp/is" /> within the Host Element of server.xml
12:36.53bukis the docBase relative to my cataline home?
12:37.00linuxfreckyes
12:37.04linuxfreckwell
12:37.16linuxfreckrelative to the webapps dir iirc
12:37.23bukif I say "/foo" its ..../webapps/foo"
12:37.32linuxfreckno
12:37.39bukin the filesystem
12:38.05linuxfreck/foo is /foo in the filesystem
12:38.09bukok
12:38.23linuxfreckI think I misunderstood your question first
12:38.48bukI simply want to see my servlet when I access / of the tomcat
12:39.26linuxfreckyeah, you'd do that with the Context that I gave above
12:39.30bukok
12:39.42bukand I need to specify the full path in docBase?
12:39.58bukor just the relative path to the webapps directory?
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12:41.36linuxfreckthe manager webapp uses something like docBase="${catalina.home}/webapps/whatever"
12:42.17buknot working
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12:43.12linuxfreckany error messages in the logs?
12:43.59bukjava.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Document base /usr/local/jakarta-tomcat5.5/server/webapps/BIOrg does not exist or is not a readable directory
12:44.07bukI tried that because of the manager.xml
12:44.54linuxfreckremove the /server part from docBase
12:45.05buk<PROTECTED>
12:45.09bukwith that nothing changes
12:49.14bukok, need to undeploy the old /
12:52.53bukthanks :)
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13:44.44harpoonhi
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15:41.28yelhello everyone!
15:41.43yeli have hered the the mod_jk2 is not supported/developed anymore is the right  does anyone of you guys know some precise informations ?
15:42.00fireburnTo monitor tomcat memory usage by jmx, which property should I look at?
15:42.35fireburnthe memoryrealm is totally a different thing
15:43.56fireburnContextResource or ContextEnvironment don't show either
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15:49.13linuxfreckyel: jk2 has been deprecated
15:49.43yellinuxfreck, what would be now a good alternative ?
15:50.16linuxfreckdon't use httpd but the built-in http server
15:50.56linuxfreckif you have to use apache, the easy solution is mod_proxy, and the flexible solution is mod_jk
15:52.37linuxfreckfireburn: java uses lots of different memory pools, what exactly do you want to know?
15:53.41fireburnlinuxfreck, at least I want to know the total memory consumed by tomcat and webapps
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15:54.14fireburnif we can tell by individual webapp, that
15:54.16fireburns
15:54.23fireburnmuch better
15:55.45fireburnthere can be more than just tomcat's java process running on the system
15:57.29yellinuxfreck, excuse me what do you mean with don't use httpd but the built-in http server??
16:00.12linuxfreckyel: you don't have to use apache http and jk, tomcat has its own http server
16:01.05yelyou mean connector ?
16:01.30linuxfreckyea
16:01.47linuxfreckthe tomcat http server usually listens on port 8080
16:03.22yeli know that its able to handel http but how would you now realize load balancing ?
16:03.35linuxfreckoh you want load balancing
16:03.41linuxfreckyou have to use jk then
16:04.05linuxfreckthe old jk, not jk2 that is
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16:05.03yelmhh is the jk2 now definetl unspported ?
16:05.50linuxfrecksee http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/news/20041100.html#20041115.1
16:06.08yelthanks
16:06.32yel15 November - JK2 is officially unsupported :)
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17:39.25fireburnMemoryPoolMXBean is only in java1.5, any equivalent in jdk1.4?
17:44.16fireburnseems not
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18:02.21PR0JECTis there w way to define the host name in server.xml?  right now i only have the i.p
18:09.10cilquirmanyone recommend some good tools for profiling web applicaitons
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19:43.56tkcba#tomcat
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19:50.45tkcbahi
19:51.12tkcbaanybody here?
19:52.59tkcbaDoes anybody know how to install Tomcat on MacOS Tiger?
20:02.03vinsecheck back when lyken's here
20:02.13vinsehe <3 macs
20:02.32vinsebut is on aussie time
20:03.52tkcbaeh ok
20:04.01tkcbaim trying to get it to run
20:04.05tkcbabut unsucessful
20:04.13tkcbai did get like an old version to run
20:04.21tkcbabut i cant upgrade to the new one...
20:05.37vinsei last used an apple machine regularly in 1988
20:05.45vinsenot counting my ipod
20:06.02vinseso i cant help!
20:07.12tkcbalol
20:07.16tkcbaok sounds good
20:07.31tkcbais there a way i can send lyken a message?
20:08.32vinsesome people consider unsolicited PMs rude, i dont really have an opinion on it
20:08.41vinsethe tomcat user list might be a better place though
20:08.49tkcbawheres that?
20:09.03vinsemailing list
20:09.11tkcbai mean how do i access it
20:09.16vinsehttp://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Tomcat
20:09.20tkcbaim a supernewb when it comes to IRC and tomcat stuff
20:09.32vinseyou subscribe
20:09.38vinseand mail a question to the list
20:10.13vinsesome one will eventually answer or hopefully point you to appropriate documentation
20:11.00tkcbayeah, hopefully, i found some tutorials onlnie
20:11.03tkcbabut they dont work
20:11.39tkcbaI went to this site http://www.serverlogistics.com/tomcat.php
20:11.57tkcbai was able to download this installation thing for tomcat, that installed sucessfully and got it to work, however, its the old version
20:12.03tkcbaand i would like to install the new version...
20:12.12vinseyou may have to back up a ways
20:12.33tkcbawhat do u mean?
20:12.35vinseyou've tried the jakarta site?
20:12.39tkcbayeah
20:12.43tkcbathey have a guide too
20:12.45tkcbabut it doesnt work
20:12.56vinsewhat version worked? and what version didnt?
20:14.25tkcbathe version thats working is v4.1.24
20:14.37tkcbathe one that isnt working is the latest one, v5.9
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20:15.18tkcbahey sorri
20:15.20tkcbaany ideas?
20:16.58vinseyeah, what java version?
20:17.07vinseyou have 1.5?
20:17.08tkcbai installed the latest one
20:17.11tkcba1.5 R3
20:17.37vinsethere any messages? where's it fail?
20:18.50vinsei shouldnt even get into this with you, i probably cant help you :/
20:18.51tkcbait just doesnt run....
20:18.54tkcbalol
20:18.58tkcbawell atleast your trying
20:19.07vinseno logs?
20:19.30tkcbathere were
20:19.40tkcbabut it was BS stuff
20:19.46tkcbanothing w an error was logged
20:19.51vinsewell what's the last thing it does?
20:20.07tkcbai think checking the java version
20:20.14vinsehmm
20:20.17tkcbabut i made sure it was pointing to the latest java version
20:20.21tkcba=)
20:21.32vinsewell this is where my total lack of mac os knowledge hurts me
20:30.06tkcbai dont blame u
20:30.11tkcbaim a new mac guy myself
20:47.29tkcbaare u the only one here vinse?
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20:51.37DarthBatmanhey
20:51.47tkcbahi
20:51.52tkcba=)
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20:53.22vinseDarthBatman: go ahead and ask questions in channel, if some one can answer they eventually will
20:53.34vinselots of people dont like unsolicited PMs
20:53.59DarthBatmanlol
20:54.03DarthBatmanvinse, its me
20:54.05DarthBatmantkcba
20:54.08DarthBatmanor whatever it was be4
20:54.11vinseah
20:54.14DarthBatman=)
20:54.26DarthBatmanI wanted to give myself a proper IRC name
20:54.34vinsenice choice ;p
20:54.41DarthBatmanthanks
20:54.42PR0JECTHi everyone. I'm having a huge problem with my hosts in server.xml. and im not sure why.
20:55.22PR0JECTi had virtual hosts setup on my test server like 127.0.0.1 and .2 and it all worked fine. when typed in, they all went to the correct page
20:55.48PR0JECTbut now, that i'm attmpting to launch it live, every ip that i go to shows the root of webapps..
20:56.17PR0JECTevery public I.P i should say.
20:56.48PR0JECTdoes any of this sound familiar to anyone?
20:57.29DarthBatmannope
20:57.56PR0JECTgreat
20:58.08PR0JECTany adive?
20:58.11PR0JECTadvice?
20:58.43DarthBatmannot really, just ask around
20:58.47DarthBatmanwhich is what im doing
20:58.53DarthBatmanare u a mac user?
20:58.58PR0JECTno. pc.
20:59.20PR0JECTcan anyone here give me a hand with this issue?
20:59.45PR0JECTor explain why this all worked on local virtual hosts, but not a real one?
20:59.56PR0JECTor local hosts and not a real one i mean
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21:03.32DarthBatmanso anybody else here?
21:09.11DarthBatmanhey vinse, u still here?
21:09.59PR0JECTok, so it works with the I.P but not the url name.  
21:10.11PR0JECTis there any docs around that talk about servel.xml and host names?
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21:16.15PR0JECTis there anyone in here?
21:16.22DarthBatmannot really =)]
21:20.19PR0JECTthis is amazing
21:20.37DarthBatmanyup
21:33.53PR0JECThello?
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22:41.09DarthBatmananybody here?
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23:12.45DarthBatmananybody awake?
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23:20.54DarthBatmanare you there lyken?

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