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00:05.59 | Mattek | there is any clue about the cause of this : java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/servlet/http/HttpServlet ??? |
00:11.57 | vinse_work | yep |
00:18.35 | Mattek | sigh |
00:20.04 | vinse_work | Mattek: this is from tomcat? |
00:20.08 | vinse_work | in the logs? |
00:20.10 | vinse_work | on a jsp page? |
00:20.12 | vinse_work | what? |
00:20.17 | vinse_work | from your ide? |
00:22.48 | Mattek | vinse_work: yes a servlet from tomcat |
00:25.58 | Mattek | the problem is that it run the HelloWorldExample.class correctly |
00:26.53 | Mattek | but it does not run correctly edu.rice.rubis.servlet.BrowseCategories.class |
00:27.47 | Mattek | ok apart from the erroneous .class that i added, i compiled the two classes with the same classpath |
00:30.02 | Mattek | i guess its a web.xml issue |
00:33.13 | faded_ | Anyone know if I need JCE for performing AES encryption in java 1.5? |
00:36.15 | RProgrammer | Which is better AJP13 or JNI? |
00:37.38 | RProgrammer | Scratch that, no one answers anyway |
00:38.11 | RProgrammer | How about this: |
00:38.11 | RProgrammer | If I get embedded tomcat, it still uses connectors and it's own directory right? |
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00:42.14 | Blisster | hello |
00:43.25 | RProgrammer | Hi |
00:43.28 | RProgrammer | Darn |
00:47.40 | RProgrammer | I CANT TAKE THE LATENCY |
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00:50.50 | vinse_work | you really need to jump from 6+ |
00:50.57 | vinse_work | unless you just want to cripple yourself |
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01:21.00 | RProgrammer | Speak now or forever hold your peace! |
01:30.14 | RProgrammer | Ok, peace held |
01:32.25 | faded_ | 5 is quite high tbh |
01:32.58 | RProgrammer | tbh? |
01:33.04 | vinse_work | well you know |
01:33.07 | vinse_work | if you want to be sure |
01:33.17 | vinse_work | (16:50:01) ***RProgrammer laughs hysterically while throwing himself out his 5th story window |
01:33.18 | vinse_work | (16:50:03) RProgrammer left the room. |
01:33.18 | vinse_work | (16:53:10) vinse_work: you really need to jump from 6+ |
01:33.18 | vinse_work | (16:53:17) vinse_work: unless you just want to cripple yourself |
01:33.35 | vinse_work | tbh = to be honest |
01:33.37 | RProgrammer | ohh |
01:34.37 | RProgrammer | Yeah, I figured that out, that's why I can re-join from the hospital bed |
01:34.37 | RProgrammer | MAYBE I DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE?!?!?! |
01:34.40 | RProgrammer | lol |
01:35.38 | RProgrammer | Does Tomcat have JNI by default? |
01:39.00 | RProgrammer | ESA: 7 minutes |
01:44.06 | RProgrammer | Some of you guys have average idle times of ~10-20 min, but what is the deal with all the people with days or weeks idle, in all the chat rooms? Did they go on vacation and forget to turn off their computers? |
01:45.00 | swente | RProgrammer: i guess some live in other timezones |
01:45.30 | RProgrammer | No, I mean they have not said anything for 72hrs |
01:46.19 | swente | hmm .. perhaps they have other things to do |
01:46.33 | lyken | yer! |
01:46.35 | lyken | like me! |
01:46.36 | RProgrammer | but why stay in the channel? |
01:46.43 | lyken | logging |
01:46.46 | lyken | something may be said of interest |
01:46.49 | lyken | then you can search your logs |
01:46.54 | lyken | see if anyone has had that problem |
01:46.58 | lyken | and reference it |
01:47.17 | lyken | and my server sits in a data center |
01:47.33 | lyken | and hasnt been rebooted in over 200 days |
01:47.50 | RProgrammer | interesting |
01:48.05 | RProgrammer | finally I understand |
01:48.15 | lyken | my home computers get rebooted once a week or something |
01:48.26 | lyken | depends on what i do to break them enough to require a reboot |
01:48.55 | RProgrammer | So how about this: |
01:48.55 | RProgrammer | <PROTECTED> |
01:50.48 | lyken | in the modules directory |
01:51.02 | lyken | so where ever php and the rest of the mod_X are stored |
01:52.02 | RProgrammer | oh, yeah not plugins, modules |
01:52.39 | RProgrammer | So it does, I thought so, I was just confused by the example using libexec |
01:54.31 | lyken | arh |
01:54.41 | lyken | its hidden in the last line of the connectors documentation |
01:55.07 | lyken | Also as with other Apache modules, mod_jk should be first installed on the modules directory of your Apache webserver, ie : /usr/lib/apache and you should update your httpd.conf file. |
01:56.38 | RProgrammer | ok |
01:58.59 | RProgrammer | Ok, here's one: Is the JkMount directive relative to /apache or /tomcat? |
01:59.46 | lyken | the webapps base i believer |
01:59.53 | RProgrammer | ok |
01:59.57 | lyken | so in the example in the documentation |
02:00.11 | lyken | it says JKMount /examples/*.jsp |
02:00.12 | lyken | <PROTECTED> |
02:00.30 | lyken | context being the webapplication in /webapps |
02:00.39 | lyken | or wherever you've defined that context to be in tomcat |
02:01.05 | RProgrammer | ok |
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02:01.26 | lyken | btw, ive not used mod_jk in forever |
02:01.36 | vinse_work | mod_jk sucks |
02:01.42 | vinse_work | are you 100% sure you need it? |
02:01.48 | lyken | so this is all 5 years old memories (probably hazy after 2 years of constant brain abus) |
02:01.49 | RProgrammer | Then what do you use? |
02:01.57 | lyken | mod_proxy or stand alone |
02:01.59 | vinse_work | RProgrammer: stand alone tomcat |
02:08.21 | RProgrammer | Sorry |
02:08.40 | RProgrammer | So, how does Apache connect to stand-alone tomcat? |
02:10.42 | vinse_work | ... |
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02:11.06 | vinse_work | RProgrammer: you have an existing app on apache that you need to integrate tomcat with? |
02:11.27 | RProgrammer | Apache is installed on my server, yes |
02:11.39 | vinse_work | ... |
02:11.50 | vinse_work | you have a site running on apache now? |
02:12.07 | vinse_work | or you just happen to have apache |
02:12.08 | vinse_work | ? |
02:12.12 | RProgrammer | It works, I need tomcat before I make a site that does anything |
02:12.28 | vinse_work | you can use tomcat to host a site totally independent of apache |
02:12.32 | vinse_work | is what i'm trying to say |
02:12.53 | vinse_work | is there some reason you have to use tomcat and apache together? |
02:13.07 | vinse_work | cuz if not you shouldnt |
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02:14.14 | RProgrammer | Why not? |
02:14.14 | RProgrammer | Isn't apache the best web server available? |
02:14.45 | vinse_work | ok i'm *just* about done with you :/ |
02:14.54 | RProgrammer | heh |
02:15.22 | RProgrammer | Well, regardless I need to integrate Tomcat into my existing apache server |
02:15.33 | vinse_work | you *need* to? |
02:15.35 | vinse_work | ok then |
02:15.40 | vinse_work | and what version of apache? |
02:15.43 | RProgrammer | 2 |
02:15.45 | RProgrammer | .0 |
02:15.54 | vinse_work | then i think you can use um |
02:16.04 | vinse_work | mod_proxy or that otyher one |
02:16.09 | vinse_work | but mod_jk is a hassle to set up |
02:16.13 | vinse_work | and most people dont need it |
02:16.14 | RProgrammer | other one? |
02:16.21 | vinse_work | and probably no one here will help you with it |
02:16.24 | vinse_work | (i know i wont) |
02:17.00 | vinse_work | yeah i'm blanking on the name, google for "mod_jk alternatives" or something |
02:19.50 | RProgrammer | google doesn't help |
02:20.24 | RProgrammer | heh |
02:20.33 | lyken | heres something for you vinse |
02:20.35 | lyken | http://peanutbutterbriantime.ytmnd.com/ |
02:20.38 | lyken | you can have a nice laugh |
02:20.58 | vinse_work | heh i can do you one better |
02:21.02 | vinse_work | sec let me get the link |
02:21.10 | vinse_work | this is minutes of entertainment' |
02:21.50 | vinse_work | http://www.microsoft.com/korea/events/ready2005/vs%5fsong.asp |
02:21.50 | vinse_work | trust me, it's gold |
02:23.15 | lyken | HAHAHAHAHA |
02:24.02 | vinse_work | there's a translation at the bottome |
02:24.34 | lyken | korean hip hop |
02:24.38 | lyken | this is truly gold |
02:24.45 | lyken | vinse was it you that taged my blog? :) |
02:24.54 | vinse_work | no |
02:25.16 | lyken | someoen from here did |
02:25.18 | lyken | heh |
02:25.49 | lyken | whoever i riled up about people being idiots about using more resources |
02:26.00 | lyken | and they responded with there is no point cause one person doing something wont make a difference |
02:26.04 | lyken | so i kept riling them |
02:26.05 | lyken | hehe |
02:26.41 | vinse_work | no that was me you riled up |
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02:26.49 | vinse_work | but i didnt post on your blog ;) |
02:27.00 | lyken | intersting |
02:27.09 | lyken | well someone posted about that exact thing we spoke about |
02:27.14 | lyken | i was like, wtf! |
02:27.22 | vinse_work | i was not aware you even had a blog |
02:27.29 | vinse_work | and i wouldnt have posted on it even if i were |
02:27.31 | lyken | i dont advertise it usually |
02:27.40 | lyken | its just another page on the web |
02:27.47 | lyken | and im too busy/lazy to post reguarly anymore |
02:27.56 | lyken | and also lifes boring so i got nothing interesting to post about |
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02:29.08 | Sixpipe | Why is the default build class structure so weird in NetBeans? |
02:29.41 | vinse_work | even if that was an answerable question (i dont think it is), why would you ask it in #tomcat? |
02:29.47 | lyken | Sixpipe: cause netbeans sucks ass |
02:29.59 | lyken | vim + javac == ftw!! |
02:31.14 | vinse_work | lyken: you see that guy who implented vi in javascript? |
02:31.21 | lyken | lol no |
02:31.24 | vinse_work | well and some other basic shell stuff |
02:31.26 | lyken | thats leet :) |
02:31.32 | lyken | useless but leet |
02:31.42 | RProgrammer | Is server.xml supposed to be in tomcat/conf? |
02:32.04 | vinse_work | http://www.masswerk.at/jsuix/ |
02:32.05 | lyken | yer |
02:32.09 | vinse_work | RProgrammer: yes |
02:32.14 | RProgrammer | ok |
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02:33.40 | M | hello |
02:34.14 | vinse_work | hello |
02:34.36 | M | if anyone's proficient with servlet-mapping: how would I make it so that all requests go to my certain servlet |
02:35.06 | M | the most intuitive, <url-pattern>*</url-pattern>, doesn't seem to work |
02:37.12 | vinse_work | M: i would think tha'ts it |
02:37.26 | vinse_work | M: how bout /* ? |
02:41.13 | M | that doesn't seem to do it either |
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02:46.03 | RProgrammer | Does jakarta-tomcat-worker.so get to be mod_jk.so or is it jakarta-tomcat-prefork.so? |
02:46.30 | M | oh, yep. I found out why |
02:46.59 | M | or remembered why rather |
02:47.37 | M | placing * will trap all further requests. so, I can't include a jsp file without the * catching it and sending it to the servlet, recursively and without end |
02:48.23 | M | so I guess the question is, how do I include a jsp file without triggering a servlet-mapping? |
02:51.41 | RProgrammer | Sorry to ask again, but this is the only thing keeping me back now: |
02:51.41 | RProgrammer | <PROTECTED> |
02:56.10 | M | is there a way to map everything except a certain pattern? |
02:56.24 | M | or to exclude a certain pattern from a mapping |
02:56.40 | M | say, foo.srv from *.srv? |
03:05.07 | RProgrammer | What does the download readme file mean when it says 'embedded'? |
03:05.12 | RProgrammer | http://government-grants.org/mirrors/apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5/v5.5.12/README.html |
03:06.14 | M | as part of apache and not on it's lonesome, but I really have no idea |
03:07.15 | RProgrammer | Good, at least someone doesn't have the latency of a 30 Baud modem |
03:08.07 | RProgrammer | So, do you think it means embedded as in using the connectors, or even more embedded than that? |
03:08.52 | M | I really have no idea, I use tomcat as a standalone service, so I havn't played with that |
03:09.16 | RProgrammer | tomcat stand-alone, as in no apache? |
03:09.24 | M | yup |
03:09.49 | RProgrammer | well, sadly that's not an option for me |
03:20.28 | M | which file can I define an application context in? |
03:27.14 | RProgrammer | On the tomcat mod_jk download page, I see tomcat-prefork.so and tomcat-worker.so,, and the README doesn't talk about them, so which one do I need? |
03:28.14 | M | dunno myself |
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04:03.14 | RProgrammer | It's official, there is no reason what so ever to log this channel |
04:03.26 | RProgrammer | Adios |
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04:20.23 | faded_ | inasmuch IS a word |
04:21.39 | vinse_work | holy shit |
04:21.44 | vinse_work | that comment was like 9 hours ago |
04:21.57 | vinse_work | you sure? |
04:22.00 | faded_ | i know.. was just reading a book and it was there |
04:22.07 | vinse_work | crazy |
04:22.10 | faded_ | had to let you know. haha. |
04:22.15 | vinse_work | i tried "define: inasmuch" on google |
04:22.19 | vinse_work | and got no results |
04:22.22 | faded_ | strange... |
04:22.24 | vinse_work | i'll check dictionary.com |
04:22.50 | vinse_work | yep |
04:22.53 | vinse_work | it's there |
04:23.11 | vinse_work | In`as*much"\, adv. [In + as + much.] In like degree; in like manner; seeing that; considering that; since; -- followed by as |
04:23.20 | faded_ | might use it more often then.. :p |
04:23.47 | vinse_work | it didnt look right |
04:24.05 | faded_ | in fact I have an essay on enterprise computing. I'll included it there.. |
04:24.11 | faded_ | include* |
04:24.55 | vinse_work | heh nice |
04:24.59 | vinse_work | glad i could help ;p |
04:36.27 | lyken | heh |
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06:28.38 | NamNT | http://www.bloged.co.uk/archives/001248.php |
06:28.54 | NamNT | some fat guy singing the song in little chicken :-D |
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06:39.02 | lyken | lol |
06:39.54 | jasonb | How's it going lyken? |
06:40.10 | jasonb | It's sure been quiet in here. |
06:40.25 | lyken | doing windows support over cell phone |
06:40.29 | lyken | im about to drive over to this gys house |
06:40.31 | lyken | and stab him |
06:41.26 | jasonb | I guess when the debian guys give up on their own packages, and when the stock answer to the "why doesn't my mod_jk work?" question is "you don't need it." it gets mighty quiet in here because those are about the only things people ask about in here. |
06:41.37 | lyken | lol yer |
06:41.45 | lyken | i never do |
06:41.48 | lyken | but its my brother in law.. |
06:43.42 | jasonb | Windoze support by phone is a lot like a smoking quitters hotline. |
06:52.08 | lyken | i have that tshirt! |
06:52.30 | lyken | and 'you are dumb' in binary |
06:52.35 | lyken | and 'will work for bandwidth' |
06:52.37 | lyken | shirts :) |
06:53.16 | jasonb | heh. |
07:07.35 | vinse_work | haha jasonb |
07:07.44 | vinse_work | i told like 3 people they didnt need mod_jk today ;) |
07:08.47 | vinse_work | also dont forget "why do i get No driver found for class '', url = NULL |
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07:23.25 | lyken | lol |
07:23.37 | lyken | 'NoClassDefFound' what does that mean |
07:23.41 | lyken | uh, that you're a n00b |
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09:47.42 | Mattek | good morining |
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16:39.43 | faded_ | hi. I am trying to make use f the javamail package, however the 'package does not exist' when I try to import javax.mail.* - I have mail.jar and activation.jar in the common/lib subdir of tomcat |
16:41.07 | linuxfreck | check that the jar files are readable by the user that runs tomcat and not corrupt |
16:42.40 | linuxfreck | also did you restart tomcat after copying the files |
16:45.21 | faded_ | yes I did.. |
16:45.29 | faded_ | could it be to do with the classpath? |
16:46.04 | faded_ | at the moment I am compiling by javac -classpath /path/to/servlet-api.jar file.java |
16:46.13 | faded_ | can I add mail.jar to this? |
16:47.01 | vito_ | yeah, I figured it was a compile error.... sounded it |
16:47.02 | Py | If I have this bean http://pastebin.com/436247 available in a jsp session, shouldn't this code on a jsp page <c:if test="${nameOfBean.isAdmin}">He is admin</c:if> output "He is admin" if the boolean "isAdmin" property is true? |
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16:47.20 | Kasica | hello |
16:47.28 | Kasica | im looking for a tomcat guru |
16:47.31 | vito_ | you need mail.jar and activation.jar on your classpath, yes |
16:47.41 | linuxfreck | faded_: you get that error when compiling? |
16:47.42 | Kasica | still having problems with WatchedResource's |
16:48.02 | faded_ | yes when compiling. what is the syntax for adding more than one jar to the -classpath? |
16:48.41 | Kasica | when i add WatchedResource tomcat just look for it while starting , it does not make sence |
16:49.14 | linuxfreck | Py: the function in the bean should be named isAdmin() and not getIsAdmin() |
16:49.21 | Kasica | im try to define context in conf/Catalina/domainname.com/context.xml but also does not work |
16:49.32 | vito_ | although it is noble to learn the command line compiling structure .... ( use your systems path separator to add more jars, ";" for windows, ":" for linux ) |
16:49.52 | vito_ | you should eventually switch to a build tool like ANT |
16:50.30 | Py | linuxfreck: so ${nameOfBean.someFunction} actually calls someFunction? |
16:51.44 | Py | I thought that it would get the value of the property named after the dot using the getter method for this property... |
16:51.47 | faded_ | ok, I was using the correct syntax... the error does seem to be with permissions |
16:51.53 | faded_ | thanks vito_ linuxfreck |
16:53.10 | linuxfreck | Py: I don't know enough about el to be able to answer that, but methods returning boolean values in beans should be called is...() |
16:54.02 | Py | linuxfreck: ok will dig about this, anyway I just found the bug: was a case problem in the name of my bean :-( |
16:54.06 | Py | shame on me |
16:54.45 | Py | linuxfreck: if "isAdmin()" is the getter method, how should the setter method be named? |
16:55.04 | Py | setAdmin(boolean admin) ? |
16:55.21 | linuxfreck | yes, iirc |
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17:10.45 | Py | If I have several filters defined in a specific order in my web.xml, and a request matches several of them, am I right to assume that they're ordered in the same order than in my web.xml file in the FilterChain? |
17:11.47 | Py | eg, if it does match filters A and B (in this order in my web.xml), can I assume inside B's code that the request "passed" filter A ? |
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17:24.18 | Duck1123 | does anyone know what the error "Exception invoking method check" means? |
17:24.51 | Duck1123 | I get it when I try to deploy a servlet |
17:25.27 | linuxfreck | please paste the complete error message into http://rafb.net/paste so we can look at it |
17:27.04 | Duck1123 | done |
17:28.00 | linuxfreck | that's in manager, right= |
17:28.13 | Duck1123 | yes |
17:28.23 | Duck1123 | I'm trying to deploy eXist |
17:28.54 | linuxfreck | look into the tomcat logs, it should have some more verbose messages |
17:41.14 | Duck1123 | log posted |
17:41.34 | linuxfreck | what's the url? |
17:41.53 | Duck1123 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/gqggWQ24.html |
17:45.00 | faded_ | I am getting bash: /path/to/mail.jar: permission denied. but I do have permission.. |
17:45.22 | faded_ | when trying to compile my servlet |
17:47.01 | linuxfreck | how do you compile the servlet? |
17:48.09 | faded_ | thats my prob.. I am adding the paths to mail.jar, servlet-api.jar and activation.jar to the -classpath of javac, and I get these permission errors |
17:48.49 | faded_ | also $CLASSPATH seems correct, all the paths are correct there |
17:49.00 | linuxfreck | well you're doing something wrong there, because bash shouldn't complain about jar files |
17:49.08 | linuxfreck | so what command do you give? |
17:49.36 | faded_ | javac -classpath /path/to/file.jar;/path/to/another.jar file.java |
17:50.08 | linuxfreck | : and not ; is the path separator |
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17:50.27 | faded_ | right thanks |
18:02.31 | Duck1123 | so, does anybody have any idea what could be causing that error? |
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18:49.32 | crackhead | if I have a list...how can I output the length using <c:out>? |
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19:35.31 | vinse_work | RProgrammer: we are if you're going to ask about mod_jk again |
19:36.00 | RProgrammer | No |
19:36.00 | RProgrammer | Just tomcat |
19:36.33 | RProgrammer | What does the download page mean by 'embedded'? |
19:38.05 | RProgrammer | In the readme packaging information |
19:40.08 | RProgrammer | 15 minutes encounting |
19:40.10 | RProgrammer | ... |
19:41.19 | Hugh_ | where you run the tomcat from within your own application, rather than starting it as a standalone server |
19:41.55 | Hugh_ | a google on "embedded tomcat" gives an example of this for tomcat 4.0 (bit out of date now, but the principle should be the same) - http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/04/03/tomcat.html |
19:43.37 | RProgrammer | so, embedded uses connectors, not stand-alone, right? |
19:43.38 | Hugh_ | it might be flame-bait here, but i believe jetty might be considered by some as smaller/more lightweight and therefore more suitable for embedding |
19:44.42 | Hugh_ | well both use connectors i believe (i'm not totally au fait with the terminology) |
19:45.39 | Hugh_ | the first goog hit is even nicer: http://shinzui.org/space/Tomcat/Embedded+Tomcat |
19:46.31 | RProgrammer | So, I want an Apache web server with tomcat capabilities, do I need embedded or stand-alone? |
19:47.29 | Hugh_ | you want the non-embedded version |
19:47.39 | RProgrammer | ok, thanks |
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19:57.14 | Mattek | hello |
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20:21.20 | vinse_work | Hugh_: did you just say "au fait" ? |
20:21.43 | RProgrammer | I wouldn't say 'just' |
20:22.46 | vinse_work | heh |
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21:13.07 | crackhead | anyone know what functions (fn) are available in el pre el 2.0? |
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