| 00:04.25 | oxblood | Are you a real life dad too? |
| 00:04.50 | Aint_DAD | who me? |
| 00:04.57 | oxblood | Yes. |
| 00:05.03 | oxblood | aint_"dad". |
| 00:05.05 | Aint_DAD | no you carzy I'm still 24 |
| 00:05.19 | oxblood | Why is it that I always burn the roof of my mouth when I eat pizza. |
| 00:05.23 | Aint_DAD | I'm just chilling until I got to 32 or so |
| 00:05.37 | oxblood | I'm chilling until I die. :) |
| 00:05.49 | oxblood | I don't think I can ever raise a kid. |
| 00:06.03 | oxblood | I'm actually waiting for my sister to get married and give me a cute little niece. |
| 00:06.06 | Aint_DAD | I will like but not for now, How old are you |
| 00:06.17 | oxblood | Too old, very old as a matter of fact. |
| 00:06.20 | oxblood | 25. :( |
| 00:06.23 | Aint_DAD | lol |
| 00:06.53 | oxblood | This whole age conversation made me sad -- I rather talk about tomcat now. |
| 00:08.40 | Zenethian- | Ah... for the record, there is a module for Apache, mod_jk that will redirect requests to Tomcat so that they can run side by side. |
| 00:09.45 | oxblood | "Experts" tend to believe you should run tomcat in standalone rather than in conjunction with Apache. |
| 00:10.11 | Zenethian- | Yeah, I know, but it isn't really an option for me, since I have non-java apps to support on the same server. |
| 00:10.48 | oxblood | And how does Apache help you with non-java application? |
| 00:11.12 | Zenethian- | Uhm, the same way that Tomcat does for java applications? |
| 00:11.39 | Zenethian- | =) |
| 00:12.00 | oxblood | Not trying to be a smartass, I just started learning about servlet/tomcat so that's why I asked. |
| 00:12.08 | Zenethian | Yeah, me too. hehe. |
| 00:12.11 | oxblood | I still can't connect the dots. |
| 00:12.17 | Zenethian | Well, I have apache running already |
| 00:12.21 | Zenethian | it's running other web apps |
| 00:12.30 | Zenethian | One written in PHP, and one in Python. |
| 00:12.40 | oxblood | Uh, that's all you had to say. :) |
| 00:12.42 | Zenethian | On the same server I must now add a JSP app, so I need to install Tomcat. |
| 00:12.46 | Zenethian | :) |
| 00:13.02 | Zenethian | Plus I wanna be able to learn while still running all my old crap =) |
| 00:13.03 | Zenethian | hehe |
| 00:13.10 | Zenethian | without using an alternate http port. |
| 00:13.19 | oxblood | I too got tomcat/apache/virtuahost working nicely at the moment. |
| 00:13.25 | Zenethian | yeah? |
| 00:14.13 | oxblood | Yup, actually had everything up and running in 1 hour -- the only thing that hindered my progress was not being able to get auto-deployment working with my web applications. |
| 00:14.34 | Zenethian | ah, very nice then |
| 00:14.35 | oxblood | Hence my journey to know tomcat/context path. |
| 00:15.21 | oxblood | Took me 4 days of bashing my head to realize my multiple virtualhosts + multiple web app with similar names were throwing everything into haywire. |
| 00:15.51 | oxblood | All in all, it was a sad experience which I rather not to talk about it. :) |
| 00:16.50 | oxblood | I usually dig my own grave so deep that the walls cave in half way down. |
| 00:17.57 | oxblood | I got so tired today at work, I doubt I can afford a trip to the gym tonight, bah. |
| 00:23.15 | jasonb | Zenethian: You should really use mod_proxy instead of mod_jk. |
| 00:25.38 | Zenethian | odd, since the tomcat website recommends mod_jk. I just presumed that mod_jk worked as a proxy specific to tomcat. |
| 00:34.52 | vinse | how old is the portion of the tomcat site that recommends mod_jk? |
| 00:36.23 | Aint_DAD | 02[07Leaving02] Reason:[07auto away after 30 minutes of inactivity02] 07·02•07 P o l a r i s · O n e 02•07· |
| 00:57.15 | jasonb | vinse: Pretty old. |
| 00:57.34 | jasonb | I should have just told him that Tomcat: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition recommends *not* using mod_jk. :) |
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| 02:53.59 | oxblood | I was going to ask him why. :( |
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| 03:04.30 | mlh | oxblood: bugs, apparently and flexibility |
| 03:04.55 | mlh | mod_jk works fine for me , though I will probably use mod_proxy when I move to apache2 |
| 03:06.30 | oxblood | It works ok for me too, although I have no idea about the throughput during high load nore familiar with configuration settings. |
| 03:06.58 | oxblood | I just know it works and I am learning servlet/JSP on it. |
| 03:07.42 | oxblood | How long has Apache 2.2 been out? I wonder if it's worth upgrading from 2.0 to 2.2. |
| 03:08.32 | mlh | 2.2 for a couple of months iirc. 2.2.2 is only just out |
| 03:08.49 | mlh | on linux, i just use whatever the distro gives me. |
| 03:09.09 | mlh | on solaris / other i tend to conservative and use apache1 |
| 03:09.12 | oxblood | Hah, I am a bit pesky and usually grab the latest source. |
| 03:09.21 | mlh | meh, makework |
| 03:09.27 | oxblood | Why conserve on Solaris? |
| 03:10.00 | mlh | don't fix whats not broken |
| 03:10.11 | mlh | though I prob will go apache2 soon |
| 03:10.32 | mlh | the solaris machines tend be the production, i..e visibile ones |
| 03:10.52 | oxblood | Well, when I installed Solaris 10 last year, I immediately grabed apache2 and everything worked just fine. |
| 03:11.03 | mlh | yeah, it should be fine now |
| 03:11.12 | oxblood | Except that I haven't turned it on since last December. ;P |
| 03:11.47 | mlh | if i was running solaris for myself, I'd just grab whatever blastwave.org had |
| 03:12.15 | oxblood | Oh ya, except that two times a cleaning lady accidentally pushed the power-on botton on the keyboard. |
| 03:12.42 | mlh | cleaning ladies and backhoes --- scourges of the IT world |
| 03:12.56 | lyken | lol |
| 03:12.57 | oxblood | Ya, I would do the same for Solaris9, but they have done much more improvement with Solaris10. |
| 03:13.02 | oxblood | Hah. |
| 03:13.30 | oxblood | Well, except that I don't work in the IT industry. |
| 03:16.11 | oxblood | Actually, I will probably get Tomcat to work with Oracle9i on Solaris10 once I get to database/data source setup sections of my books. |
| 03:16.39 | oxblood | Oracle10g pretty much crippled my Solaris10, had to roll back to 9i. |
| 03:20.55 | oxblood | mlh, You can purchase a decent SPARC workstation off the ebay for less than $500 by the way. |
| 03:21.29 | oxblood | I haven't checked lately because I bought mine 2 1/2 years ago. |
| 03:22.05 | oxblood | Ok, off to bed... |
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| 03:36.02 | mlh | oxblood: i got a few ultra sparcs for nothing |
| 04:15.07 | lyken | mlh: heh ultra 10s ? |
| 04:15.14 | lyken | people give them away like old clothes |
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| 04:38.22 | mlh | lyken: two ultra1s and and ultra |
| 04:38.43 | mlh | ultra2. the ultra2 is not so bad, 2x400Mhz, 2gb ram |
| 04:38.55 | lyken | ehe |
| 04:39.10 | lyken | i got ultra 5s and 10's ike candy |
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| 05:52.01 | [a]tomi | hey jasonb. hows the text? |
| 05:52.11 | [a]tomi | im busy too :) |
| 05:53.06 | [a]tomi | hope all is well. thanks again for the rpm man. its rocking |
| 05:55.52 | jasonb | [a]tomi: Hi there. |
| 05:56.10 | [a]tomi | ya man, hey |
| 05:56.13 | jasonb | [a]tomi: I'm working faster on the book now, so I'm making good progress, but still have a long way to go. |
| 05:56.36 | jasonb | Still enjoying the RPM eh? I'm glad. I am too. I'm using it in various places and it's working great for me as well. |
| 05:56.50 | jasonb | It's amazing how much better Tomcat works when it's integrated nicely with Linux like that. |
| 05:57.39 | [a]tomi | i can only imagine about the text. I think all the shit i write in my wiki could be put to good use in some similar way. |
| 05:58.19 | [a]tomi | but yea, the war deployment really works well for rapid dev |
| 05:59.07 | jasonb | war deployment? |
| 05:59.36 | [a]tomi | heh yes, im using a servlet called Railo |
| 05:59.38 | jasonb | like, copying a war file into Tomcat's webapps/ dir? |
| 05:59.46 | jasonb | What's Rialo? |
| 06:00.27 | [a]tomi | runs coldfusion |
| 06:00.33 | jasonb | ahh. |
| 06:00.39 | jasonb | So how do you deploy? |
| 06:00.59 | jasonb | Copy a war file? Or, copy new files into the expanded webapp dir? Manager? what? |
| 06:01.01 | [a]tomi | in eclipse i just export to war with the required jars and BAM! |
| 06:01.14 | [a]tomi | im working on an ANT deployment atm |
| 06:01.21 | jasonb | Yeah. |
| 06:01.27 | jasonb | Ant is ultimately better. |
| 06:02.59 | [a]tomi | ultimately, it is. I figure its a little like an assembly plant; after creating a good mechanism for deployment, you can really push sites out. |
| 06:03.17 | jasonb | Yes, it is exactly like that. |
| 06:03.33 | jasonb | And, Ant can help you do it every step of the way along the assembly line. |
| 06:05.33 | lyken | rar ! |
| 06:05.51 | jasonb | Yeah, what lyken said. :) |
| 06:08.45 | [a]tomi | i bought a copy of your book btw jasonb :) |
| 06:08.51 | lyken | heh |
| 06:10.47 | [a]tomi | not as much about Ant automaion as I'd hoped for :) but i figure it is'nt easy to know where to start considering its a tomcat book. |
| 06:12.11 | kuto | jasonb: i installed java and tomcat as rpm, in fedora core 5, where can i find webapps? |
| 06:13.38 | [a]tomi | kuto: webapps is in in /opt/tomcat/ |
| 06:13.44 | jasonb | [a]tomi: Yeah, the next edition will show more ant automation, obviously. |
| 06:14.55 | jasonb | kuto: Which Tomcat rpm did you install? The one that comes with FC5 or mine? |
| 06:14.58 | [a]tomi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.49 | jasonb | [a]tomi: I've really been thinking whether to spend time on eclipse integration or not. The truth is that it's really not easy to do right, and I don't believe anyone has done it right yet. I would have already done it, but I basically hate eclipse. |
| 06:16.16 | lyken | lol same |
| 06:16.40 | jasonb | [a]tomi: I know the first edition of our book is old, but neglecting that, what do you think of it so far? Is it answering some of your questions? |
| 06:17.04 | jasonb | lyken: I use it just about every day at work, and it's the only piece of software that consistently gets in my way and makes me less productive. |
| 06:17.14 | lyken | i use it to chock open my office door |
| 06:17.27 | jasonb | heh |
| 06:17.28 | lyken | jasonb: lols |
| 06:17.36 | lyken | so, i might be in san fran in august |
| 06:17.42 | lyken | if so, we should catch up for a beer |
| 06:17.45 | [a]tomi | heh, you got me there. No way I can do without eclipse, considering I do coldfusion. about the book, I can honestly say I enjoyed the Performace Tuning chapter... just got it so. |
| 06:18.02 | lyken | cfm makes baby jesus cry |
| 06:18.03 | jasonb | lyken: Yes, that would be great! Just let me know. |
| 06:18.23 | lyken | myspace uses cfm and its so badly coded |
| 06:18.24 | [a]tomi | lyken: ha :) |
| 06:18.45 | [a]tomi | you know it's not bad, it integraes with java nicely |
| 06:18.56 | lyken | why integrate ? |
| 06:18.59 | [a]tomi | and its easy to pop out sites with it. |
| 06:19.00 | lyken | when you can do it all in java |
| 06:19.02 | lyken | and make it good |
| 06:19.17 | lyken | jasonb: its a macromedia heap of dookie heh |
| 06:19.35 | [a]tomi | lyken: it was, i know what you're saying |
| 06:19.51 | lyken | i did code in it back in the day |
| 06:19.54 | [a]tomi | but bluedragon and now railo are making it really accessible |
| 06:19.55 | lyken | now i refuse |
| 06:20.00 | lyken | id use perl over cfm |
| 06:20.18 | lyken | shit id use bash that echos out html before i used cfm again |
| 06:20.32 | [a]tomi | at least in my case, where someone, say, has little programming experience, its a good step in the door. |
| 06:20.56 | [a]tomi | it got me started to say the least in all this web shits :) |
| 06:21.03 | lyken | yeah to teach them bad programming practice :) |
| 06:21.43 | [a]tomi | well, some are really trying to create enterprise frameworks, you should take a fresh look at it. |
| 06:21.57 | jasonb | [a]tomi: It's funny that you liked the performance tuning chapter most.. that's probably the chapter we spent the least amount of time on, and one that I think is about the weakest chapter in the book :) |
| 06:22.07 | lyken | lol |
| 06:22.22 | lyken | jason if we catch up for a beer, ill also get my free copy |
| 06:22.22 | lyken | w00ts |
| 06:22.37 | jasonb | lyken: Damn, I really need to send you one. |
| 06:22.43 | lyken | heh |
| 06:22.52 | lyken | or i could just wait for the next ed :) |
| 06:22.55 | jasonb | lyken: Do you really want one of the old first edition copies? |
| 06:22.56 | lyken | so i get a fresh one |
| 06:23.01 | jasonb | Yeah. |
| 06:23.11 | lyken | ive still got some time to help if you want it :) |
| 06:23.19 | lyken | its onmy todo list heh |
| 06:24.17 | [a]tomi | jasonb: i wouldnt really know, your rpms really made it easy to just jump into that particular section. |
| 06:24.42 | [a]tomi | sometime soon i'll get into the clustering... |
| 06:24.52 | jasonb | [a]tomi: I guess there are some sections in that chapter that would enlighten people on some fundamental things. But, generally, the sections in that chapter just aren't well enough developed to help all that much, except for maybe the capacity planning section(s). |
| 06:25.07 | lyken | jasonb: im now running apache 2.2.2 mod_proxy is speedy :) |
| 06:25.21 | jasonb | lyken: I really do need help with Tomcat on OSX. Right now that's a big blank spot in the 2nd Edition. I'd love for you to help with it if you want to. |
| 06:25.58 | lyken | cools |
| 06:26.00 | lyken | ill get on it |
| 06:26.01 | lyken | :) |
| 06:26.28 | jasonb | [a]tomi: You know, that was one of my main goals for the RPM -- to make it so easy to have a correctly configured, healthy Tomcat installation that it negates the need for reading all about it and spending a week or two setting that up. It's just unnecessary for everyone to do that. |
| 06:26.35 | kuto | jasonb: the rpm version |
| 06:26.59 | lyken | jasonb: hehe, i helped someone do a manual install on slackware last night :) |
| 06:27.02 | jasonb | lyken: There's really no hurry, since I still have some months left, but the longer we work on this stuff the nicer it'll look when included in the book. |
| 06:27.07 | lyken | first time ive gone to that noob level in a whiles |
| 06:27.30 | jasonb | lyken: mod_proxy in 2.2.x rulez. That marks the end of mod_jk, IMHO. |
| 06:28.13 | jasonb | Yeah, I read through that. :) |
| 06:28.13 | lyken | hell yeh |
| 06:28.13 | lyken | mod_jk is such a piece of poopy heh |
| 06:28.13 | jasonb | It's somewhat entertaining to see newbies learn Linux. :) |
| 06:28.14 | lyken | i laff when people come in here for help |
| 06:28.26 | lyken | 'im having trouble with mod_jk' |
| 06:28.33 | jasonb | lyken: It always was shite. Always. mod_jserve included. |
| 06:28.38 | jasonb | jserv. |
| 06:28.41 | lyken | haha |
| 06:28.49 | jasonb | Those guys just never got it right. |
| 06:29.07 | lyken | and then mod_proxy dev went, wait a second.. |
| 06:29.09 | jasonb | The Locomotive servlet container project had it right way way back during the mod_jserv days, and everyone ignored it. |
| 06:29.17 | lyken | yeh |
| 06:29.18 | jasonb | We had an apache module that worked fine. |
| 06:29.22 | lyken | wow that was a whiles ago |
| 06:29.27 | jasonb | Oh yeah. |
| 06:29.36 | jasonb | This was the prehistoric servlet 1.0 and 1.1 days. |
| 06:29.37 | lyken | i just remember the ends of that wne i got into tomcat heh |
| 06:29.56 | jasonb | Yeah, this was before James even started writing Tomcat. |
| 06:30.02 | lyken | our sysadmins had not set up tomcat right |
| 06:30.11 | lyken | so i got pissed and went searching for proper config |
| 06:30.22 | jasonb | heh |
| 06:30.38 | lyken | thats how i got into it, cause our sysadmins response was 'teach php, instead of this java shit' |
| 06:30.50 | lyken | to my response of and thatas why your our tech bitches and not the lecturers |
| 06:30.55 | lyken | cause you're all a bunch of hacks ! |
| 06:31.06 | jasonb | hehe! |
| 06:31.09 | jasonb | You tell 'em. |
| 06:31.17 | jasonb | That happens all the time. |
| 06:31.34 | lyken | now i refuse to use anyones but my machines |
| 06:32.09 | jasonb | I don't mind using others's machines, as long as I'm the Tomcat admin. :) |
| 06:32.21 | lyken | yeh |
| 06:32.27 | lyken | well they wont give me admin on some of those machines |
| 06:32.35 | jasonb | People don't really even TRY to tell me they know more about Tomcat than I do nowadays. Heh.. |
| 06:32.37 | lyken | so im like, well then, you're puttign this in the machine room and no you cant have root |
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| 06:33.43 | jasonb | It's usually a bunch of lamer windoze admins who decide that the software engineers can't have root on server linux machines. |
| 06:33.48 | jasonb | That's just wrong. |
| 06:34.39 | lyken | yup |
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| 06:36.25 | cypo | g'evening jasonb |
| 06:37.09 | cypo | why should developers need root access to a server machine? |
| 06:37.35 | lyken | cypo: software engineers doesnt mean they are code monkeys |
| 06:37.49 | jasonb | Because the admins usually have no clue what they're doing, and so we have to do their job as well. :) |
| 06:38.01 | cypo | heh, good point :) |
| 06:38.06 | jasonb | So the machine won't work right until *we* fix it. |
| 06:38.09 | lyken | my title was systems programmer and i didnt do much programming |
| 06:38.13 | jasonb | And, we can't do their job if we don't have perms to do it.. |
| 06:38.29 | cypo | but what do they do then? |
| 06:38.41 | jasonb | They run windows update, of course. |
| 06:38.49 | lyken | admin their windows boxes |
| 06:39.08 | lyken | which consists of rebooting them once a day and claiming they are god while walking the halls in their cheesy $50 suits |
| 06:39.08 | cypo | doesn't sound that time consuming to me |
| 06:39.23 | jasonb | And, they spend lots of time tightening down the firewall so stuff doesn't work anymore.. including stuff that has to work. :) |
| 06:39.52 | jasonb | Oh, and they update virus scanner rules.. |
| 06:40.13 | cypo | hmm, sounds like a boring job supporting/creating BOFHs ;) |
| 06:40.23 | jasonb | And, they spend time with lots of business workers, reminding them that their caps lock key is on. |
| 06:40.25 | lyken | lolz |
| 06:41.02 | jasonb | So, we, the software engineers, must do the real work on Linux.. and thus we must be root. |
| 06:41.32 | cypo | I guess you're right |
| 06:43.20 | cypo | bbl |
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| 07:40.08 | rah | I have a bit of a problem running the example jsp pages |
| 07:40.27 | rah | I'm on fedora core 4, and I installed sun's jdk |
| 07:40.30 | rah | since then, I get: |
| 07:40.44 | rah | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: jsp2.tagfiles.hello_jsp |
| 07:40.44 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.11 | rah | hmm |
| 07:41.15 | rah | spot the mistake |
| 07:42.20 | rah | I actually get: |
| 07:42.26 | rah | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.jsp.jsp2.tagfiles.hello_jsp |
| 07:42.26 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.32 | rah | and the page reports: |
| 07:42.41 | rah | javax.servlet.ServletException: Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.jsp.jsp2.tagfiles.hello_jsp or a class it depends on |
| 07:42.44 | rah | org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:462) |
| 07:43.14 | rah | anyone have any idea on what to look at? |
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| 07:45.07 | rah | anyone alive? :) |
| 07:45.21 | Asylum | hello |
| 07:46.09 | Asylum | anyone here use apache on windows? |
| 07:46.22 | rah | not me I'm afraid |
| 07:47.02 | Asylum | tryin to figure out how to password protect dirs with .htfiles |
| 07:49.05 | rah | apache manual will tell you |
| 07:49.48 | rah | Allocate exception for servlet org.apache.jsp.jsp2.tagfiles.hello_jsp |
| 07:49.50 | rah | oops |
| 07:49.52 | rah | I meant |
| 07:49.56 | rah | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/htaccess.html |
| 07:56.14 | Asylum | do you know where I would set AllowOverride to look for the files |
| 07:56.58 | rah | in <Directory> entry, iirc |
| 07:57.45 | rah | <Directory /> |
| 07:57.45 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.45 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.45 | rah | </Directory> |
| 07:57.47 | rah | oops |
| 07:57.50 | Asylum | sorry ic it httpd.conf |
| 07:57.54 | rah | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowoverride |
| 07:57.57 | rah | look at that |
| 07:58.15 | rah | as I said, the manual can be a wonderous source of information :) |
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| 08:01.59 | qolume | moin |
| 08:02.48 | qolume | i just misconfigured my mod_jk2 module (forgot a ] in the workers file) and apache just segfaulted... |
| 08:02.59 | qolume | shall i fill a bugreport on tomcat.apache.org? |
| 08:04.55 | rah | yes |
| 08:05.00 | rah | or no |
| 08:05.06 | rah | depending on what caused the segfault |
| 08:05.11 | rah | :) |
| 08:05.30 | rah | it was probably mod_jk2, so file it with the mod_jk2 authors |
| 08:05.46 | rah | (which I assume would be tomcat.apache.org; I don't know about mod_jk2) |
| 08:09.51 | booga | this is the newest ver of MOD_JK, right??JK 1.2.15 Source Release tar.gz |
| 08:24.29 | qolume | rah: i think it was mod_jk2 |
| 08:24.51 | qolume | booga: got the one from debian sarge... |
| 08:25.26 | qolume | version 2.0.4 |
| 08:25.45 | qolume | well, i'm gonna strace this issue |
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| 08:47.38 | yassine | good morning everyone |
| 08:51.18 | rah | good morning, yassine, how are you? |
| 08:52.46 | yassine | am fine thanks how about you |
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| 09:00.27 | rah | not too bad :) |
| 09:01.06 | rah | except for the fact that tomcat's examples won't work and gcj files seem to have vanished without cause :) |
| 09:10.12 | lyken | you are using gcj with tomcat ? |
| 09:10.13 | lyken | lol |
| 09:10.16 | lyken | no wonder it odesnt work |
| 09:10.21 | lyken | gcj breaks tomcat |
| 09:11.40 | rah | well, actually, no |
| 09:11.45 | rah | I'm using sun's jdk |
| 09:11.50 | rah | and it doesn't work |
| 09:14.04 | rah | the gcj issues are orthogonal |
| 09:14.06 | rah | (I assume..) |
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| 09:23.39 | rah | does anyone know why the following error might be caused by trying to access the jsp-examples pages? |
| 09:24.49 | rah | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: jsp2.tagfiles.hello_jsp |
| 09:24.50 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:41.52 | rah | hmm |
| 09:42.03 | rah | the answer would appear to be: jpackage's tomcat version |
| 09:42.15 | rah | FC4's version seems to work ok |
| 09:42.20 | rah | (with gcj, no less) |
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| 09:52.36 | rah | WOHOO |
| 09:52.39 | rah | it works :) |
| 09:52.46 | rah | ta ta :) |
| 09:55.07 | lyken | get it working and they leave .. |
| 09:55.08 | lyken | lols |
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| 09:59.56 | rah | tomcat works, mod_jk doesn't :) |
| 10:07.26 | lyken | lol |
| 10:07.32 | lyken | dont use mod_jk |
| 10:08.33 | yassine | i do use it |
| 10:08.51 | yassine | rah sure that jk is the problem ? |
| 10:08.51 | lyken | i havent |
| 10:08.54 | lyken | ever heh |
| 10:09.24 | yassine | rah did you jkMount your uri ? |
| 10:10.43 | rah | I did indeed JkMount my uri |
| 10:11.00 | rah | [Fri May 05 11:10:52 2006] [jk_ajp_common.c (1477)]: Error connecting to tomcat. Tomcat is probably not started or is listening on the wrong port. worker=ajp13 failed errno = 13 |
| 10:12.15 | yassine | are you sure that your ajp13 pointing to a port nummber where tomcat is listning ? |
| 10:12.18 | rah | yup |
| 10:12.19 | rah | [edisroh@genesis ~]$ grep port=.*8009 /etc/tomcat5/server.xml |
| 10:12.19 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.20 | rah | [edisroh@genesis ~]$ grep port.*8009 /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties |
| 10:12.20 | rah | worker.ajp13.port=8009 |
| 10:12.35 | rah | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.35 | rah | tcp 0 0 :::8009 :::* LISTEN 28513/java |
| 10:13.07 | rah | I don't understand how it can be not connecting |
| 10:14.04 | yassine | rah past your stuff on pastbin the next time ;) tomcat seem to be fine |
| 10:14.21 | rah | k |
| 10:14.34 | yassine | can you show me your mod_jk conf and workers.properties (past them on pastebine ) |
| 10:15.17 | rah | k |
| 10:16.09 | rah | # workers.properties - |
| 10:16.10 | rah | # |
| 10:16.10 | rah | # This file provides jk derived plugins with the needed information to |
| 10:16.10 | rah | # connect to the different tomcat workers. Note that the distributed |
| 10:16.10 | rah | # version of this file requires modification before it is usable by a |
| 10:16.12 | rah | # plugin. |
| 10:16.14 | rah | # |
| 10:16.17 | rah | # As a general note, the characters $( and ) are used internally to define |
| 10:16.20 | rah | # macros. Do not use them in your own configuration!!! |
| 10:16.22 | rah | # |
| 10:16.25 | rah | # Whenever you see a set of lines such as: |
| 10:16.25 | lyken | egads |
| 10:16.27 | rah | # x=value |
| 10:16.30 | rah | # y=$(x)\something |
| 10:16.32 | rah | sorry |
| 10:16.57 | rah | good job irssi caught it :) |
| 10:17.29 | rah | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6938 |
| 10:18.39 | rah | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6939 |
| 10:18.45 | rah | first is workers.properties |
| 10:18.47 | yassine | 1 sec |
| 10:18.59 | rah | second is mod_jk.conf |
| 10:20.57 | yassine | and you get the erroe that jk can not connect to tomcat ? |
| 10:21.03 | rah | yes |
| 10:21.14 | yassine | strange everything seems to be fine |
| 10:21.19 | rah | indeed |
| 10:21.22 | rah | ah! |
| 10:21.30 | rah | SELinux |
| 10:21.41 | yassine | so me a favoure stop tomcat and then stop apache |
| 10:21.45 | yassine | start tomcat |
| 10:21.48 | yassine | and start apache |
| 10:22.06 | yassine | bbl boss is here |
| 10:22.08 | yassine | :( |
| 10:22.13 | rah | k :) |
| 10:23.39 | rah | boo-of-the-motherfucking-yah |
| 10:23.41 | rah | it works :) |
| 10:23.51 | lyken | lol |
| 10:23.55 | rah | SELinux was stopping httpd from accessing the network :) |
| 10:23.55 | lyken | another happy customer |
| 10:24.03 | rah | danke :) |
| 10:24.12 | lyken | selinux is more of a pain in the ass |
| 10:35.47 | [a]tomi | first thing i do is turn it off |
| 10:36.04 | lyken | lol yeh [a]tomi |
| 10:36.46 | [a]tomi | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.58 | lyken | nice |
| 10:37.11 | [a]tomi | lyken: where do you stay? |
| 10:37.20 | [a]tomi | it's almost 4 am here! |
| 10:37.25 | lyken | err, australia |
| 10:37.29 | lyken | i gues you're in california? |
| 10:37.37 | lyken | or mid west |
| 10:37.38 | [a]tomi | heh yep! |
| 10:37.46 | [a]tomi | OC actually |
| 10:37.54 | lyken | oc has nice beaches |
| 10:38.13 | lyken | got a few places with some decent waves |
| 10:38.29 | [a]tomi | alot of hype :) |
| 10:38.52 | rah | laters all |
| 10:38.55 | rah | thanks for the help :) |
| 10:42.00 | lyken | [a]tomi: they are good for beginners |
| 10:42.06 | lyken | ive been to the oc heh |
| 10:42.36 | [a]tomi | really where? |
| 10:43.39 | lyken | my friend whos a marine from camp penelton to the oc |
| 10:43.44 | lyken | im not sure where |
| 10:43.56 | lyken | i was a 2 day tourist, heh |
| 10:43.57 | [a]tomi | down the 5 freeway |
| 10:44.06 | lyken | thats insane |
| 10:44.15 | lyken | people crossing 3 lanes at 90mph! |
| 10:44.58 | [a]tomi | they're lucky they didnt get busted by the Highway Patrol |
| 10:45.06 | lyken | er |
| 10:45.13 | booga | 90 mph in the OC |
| 10:45.19 | lyken | we drove passed two that had pulled other people over heh |
| 10:45.28 | booga | around 80 is the flow of traffic in the OC |
| 10:45.34 | booga | 90 is not unussual |
| 10:45.57 | lyken | specially around 8-10am |
| 10:46.01 | booga | howzit Lyken! |
| 10:46.28 | lyken | drunk heh |
| 10:46.33 | lyken | i prolly should stop working |
| 10:46.54 | booga | lol - drinking and playing with the computer can turn out bad |
| 10:47.16 | lyken | heh |
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| 10:47.24 | lyken | i do it alot |
| 10:47.30 | lyken | i work from home fri-mon |
| 10:47.53 | booga | you teach mon to fri |
| 10:48.05 | lyken | i dont teach this semester |
| 10:48.07 | lyken | yay |
| 10:48.09 | lyken | only research |
| 10:48.23 | booga | research = some slack time |
| 10:48.38 | lyken | no, im actually a researcher |
| 10:48.42 | yart | Hi Guys. In order to get digested password from clear text I need to use the static Digest() method of the org.apache.catalina.realm.RealmBase class. Could someone tell me what I need to use if want to get from digested password ckear text? Thanks in advance. |
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| 10:52.45 | booga | Lyken |
| 10:53.07 | booga | if i change Tomcat's listen port to another, would i encouter problems? |
| 10:53.34 | booga | i would like to change it from 8080 |
| 10:54.03 | booga | client's router is configured using 8080 |
| 10:54.23 | lyken | shouldnt be |
| 10:54.30 | lyken | why not have a play with mod_proxy :) |
| 10:54.32 | lyken | then it'd be 80 |
| 10:54.56 | booga | mod_jk is the same - port 80, right? |
| 10:55.10 | booga | mod_jk is what they asked for |
| 10:55.23 | booga | i guess it is what they are accustomed to |
| 10:58.15 | lyken | heh |
| 10:58.27 | lyken | yet they cant setup their router not to use 8080 heh |
| 10:59.13 | booga | 8080 is default, and does not have the option to change. |
| 10:59.26 | lyken | heh |
| 10:59.36 | lyken | well have fun setting up mod_jk ive only done it once |
| 10:59.45 | lyken | and that was 4 yrs ago |
| 11:00.24 | booga | i almost locked myself out of being able to administer their router. it dawned on me just before i was about to click APPLY to setting virtual server to have 8080 point to the server |
| 11:00.46 | lyken | heh |
| 11:01.19 | booga | mod_proxy does the same thing mod_jk does |
| 11:01.45 | booga | so configuring mod_proxy should not make a difference to them. it should be transparent |
| 11:01.48 | booga | right? |
| 11:01.55 | booga | to them tat is |
| 11:02.20 | lyken | yup |
| 11:02.27 | booga | hmm |
| 11:02.41 | lyken | except setting up mod_proxy takes 10 mins |
| 11:02.45 | lyken | mod_jk can take days heh |
| 11:02.50 | booga | yikes |
| 11:03.46 | booga | could you post that link to where i can paste text |
| 11:04.22 | lyken | http://rafb.net/paste |
| 11:04.51 | booga | http://rafb.net/paste/results/fWgxrs88.html |
| 11:05.04 | booga | i have already taken those steps from the readme file |
| 11:05.20 | booga | it didn't seem to do anything, yet |
| 11:05.40 | lyken | heh |
| 11:05.48 | lyken | nah thats just making mod_jk i thinks |
| 11:06.27 | booga | mod_proxy readme a little more detailed compared to jk? |
| 11:07.44 | lyken | um |
| 11:07.47 | lyken | its already compiled |
| 11:07.53 | lyken | so youjust have to add two lines to httpd.cnf |
| 11:07.57 | lyken | and one in server.xml |
| 11:08.03 | lyken | restart both and you're done |
| 11:08.36 | booga | hmm, sounds like it is going to take me days :-) |
| 11:08.43 | booga | isn't |
| 11:09.55 | lyken | mod_jk is the daily chore heh |
| 11:10.10 | booga | what do you mean? |
| 11:12.14 | yassine | back here |
| 11:12.27 | yassine | hi everyone again |
| 11:12.59 | booga | i guess if i don't make the changes in httpd.conf and server.xml the compiled files and folders for mod-jk will not be doing anything |
| 11:13.11 | booga | mod_proxy is still an option |
| 11:13.23 | booga | howzit Yassine |
| 11:21.34 | yassine | fine booga how about you ? |
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| 11:47.39 | Count | i have a pair of files locked up by the security constraints in XML, i want one file to be accessed by one user role, and another to be accessed by a different user role, how would i do that? |
| 11:47.52 | Count | do i have to declare another security constraint tag set, or what? |
| 11:54.01 | Count | i take it the question was poorly phrased or confusing? |
| 11:54.30 | Asylum | hey guys if I am behind a router and my http server is on a machine with a local ip and I want to access the website on it from online how would the syntax be? --> http://my-ip-here is my router I want to access computer from router like http://my-ip-here/computername is there anyway of doing that? |
| 11:55.20 | Count | you'd need to haev your router port forward your tomcat port to your local machine |
| 11:55.33 | Count | then you can use http://my-internet-ip/webappname |
| 11:56.10 | Asylum | i have the virtualhost set for port 80 on the locasl machine |
| 11:56.24 | Count | ok, then port forward 80 to your local machine, rinse and repeat |
| 11:57.09 | Asylum | when i try I just get the routers 404 page, thinking it might just be garbage |
| 11:57.37 | Count | do you access your server using the port call in your URL as well? http://my-local-ip:80 ? |
| 11:57.46 | Asylum | no |
| 11:57.59 | Count | ok |
| 11:57.59 | Count | um |
| 11:58.01 | Asylum | should i |
| 11:58.02 | Count | i'm not sure what's up then |
| 11:58.17 | Count | well, you can try, if you've port forwarded, your router will only let you connect through the ports you forwarded |
| 11:58.29 | Count | your browser isnt smart enough to connect automatically to the right port, try it and see |
| 11:59.47 | Asylum | lol no ie is less than smart |
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| 12:03.51 | JCreator | hi |
| 12:04.07 | JCreator | having a servlet with a static field, could i get exceptions if i process that field in doGet (for example) considering that the server could receive multiple get requests for this servlet simultaneusly? |
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| 12:18.01 | JCreator | how can you create a log for a servlet on the server? |
| 12:18.17 | JCreator | i've tried getServletContext().log("my error message"); |
| 12:18.31 | JCreator | or |
| 12:18.31 | JCreator | err = new PrintWriter ("myLog.log"); err.println("my err msg"); err.close(); |
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| 14:43.13 | agathon | hello :) i alwas get the same error "noclassdeffounderror com.pdflib.pdflib" |
| 14:44.05 | agathon | when i try to import the package in jsp no error is given but when i want to crate a new object of the class it returns this error |
| 14:44.57 | agathon | gij is running with pdflib.jar in it´s classpath |
| 14:45.26 | agathon | and pdflib is also in shared/lib and common/lib |
| 14:46.00 | CanyonMan | usually |
| 14:46.10 | CanyonMan | NoClassDefFoundError |
| 14:46.23 | CanyonMan | means that it was able to locate the class that you want, but that some class that it needs |
| 14:46.43 | CanyonMan | either a superclass that it extends, or an interface that it implements |
| 14:46.58 | CanyonMan | either (1) could not be found or (2) is already loaded, but using a DIFFERENT classloader, which is not allowed. |
| 14:49.10 | agathon | in pdflib.java it sais public final class pdflib{ |
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| 14:52.05 | shanky | good afternoon |
| 14:52.38 | shanky | I have just install tomcat using apt-get in ubuntu |
| 14:53.02 | shanky | I have also chmod shutdown.sh and startup.sh, and executed them |
| 14:53.31 | agathon | the jdbc.jar is so easy to install just place it in lib and it worksbut pdflib is a mystery |
| 14:53.56 | shanky | and I can see "tcp6 0 0 ::ffff:127.0.0.1:8005 :::* LISTEN 12744/java" with netstat but I can't connect |
| 14:54.00 | shanky | mmm, it says tcp6 |
| 14:54.10 | shanky | I'm gonna check that |
| 14:57.16 | shanky | any idea where to change that? |
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| 15:46.41 | CanyonMan | Hmm, I kind of want some webapps to be able to access other webapps' contexts to retrieve attributes out of them, but I don't really want to turn that on globally |
| 15:47.09 | lyken | that doesnt sound dodgy at all.. |
| 15:47.29 | CanyonMan | No? |
| 15:49.13 | CanyonMan | I'm trying to figure out a better way to do it that isn't too complicated |
| 15:49.31 | lyken | why would you be accessing stuff from another application? |
| 15:49.35 | CanyonMan | and, in particular, one that allows me to some time in the future place the communicating webapps on different servers |
| 15:49.38 | lyken | that doesnt seem like a very well programmed solution |
| 15:49.45 | CanyonMan | oh well let me explain then |
| 15:50.01 | CanyonMan | one collection of webapps collect data and put it into a database |
| 15:50.23 | CanyonMan | a second collection of webapps make use of that data in various ways. Currently they communicate with each other only through the database |
| 15:50.27 | CanyonMan | but this isn't terribly efficient |
| 15:50.39 | lyken | well thats the best programmatical way to do it |
| 15:50.50 | lyken | throwing it up any higher in the application will make it a lot slower |
| 15:51.12 | CanyonMan | because of synchronization ? |
| 15:51.28 | lyken | let me guess, you're using mysql? |
| 15:52.15 | CanyonMan | I'm actually using a third webapp called xdb (that I wrote) ... it is mostly databse independent. But there is a jdbc driver (taht i also wrote) for it |
| 15:52.27 | CanyonMan | I've done a lot of testing under mysql yeah, but not exclusively |
| 15:53.01 | lyken | if they are both talking to the same database as by the sound of it is inserting while the other is selecting or updating |
| 15:53.25 | CanyonMan | yes, basically accurate |
| 15:53.37 | lyken | how would there be synch issues? |
| 15:53.52 | lyken | its just like having a data entry system and a reporting system |
| 15:53.57 | lyken | sounds like a typical bunch of apps to me |
| 15:54.00 | CanyonMan | The app that uses the data is MOSTLY interested in the most recent status of the data points inserted |
| 15:54.12 | lyken | if anything id create an API of common function calls that all the apps use |
| 15:54.26 | lyken | so thats not your application |
| 15:54.28 | CanyonMan | So the idea I am exploring here (maybe it's a bad one) is a way to allow the consumer to directly get the latest state of each signal |
| 15:54.30 | lyken | your database should track that |
| 15:54.38 | CanyonMan | rather than going through the database |
| 15:55.03 | CanyonMan | Maybe it's a dumb idea. The database table cache will make it not that expensive i suppose. |
| 15:55.06 | lyken | so you just want to cache your db queries ? |
| 15:55.18 | lyken | which i dont see a point in doining |
| 15:55.29 | lyken | unless your getting 10k users at the same time |
| 15:55.31 | CanyonMan | ok the producer is doing this |
| 15:56.09 | CanyonMan | it is polling a number of I/O devices, each one with a number of signals with their own states. Think of a fire alarm system. |
| 15:56.27 | lyken | yes |
| 15:56.29 | CanyonMan | All that webapp does is collects the data, and if the data has changed, writes it to the database (it also writes things like heartbeat records etc) |
| 15:56.31 | lyken | ive built systems like this |
| 15:56.36 | CanyonMan | cool |
| 15:56.42 | lyken | for house control systems |
| 15:56.47 | CanyonMan | oh really?? |
| 15:56.50 | lyken | yes |
| 15:56.54 | CanyonMan | Professionally or just for fun? |
| 15:56.57 | lyken | i wrote my thesis in it at college |
| 15:57.01 | lyken | on it.. |
| 15:57.07 | CanyonMan | Oh, cool! can I read it? |
| 15:57.10 | lyken | and i will do my PhD in it also |
| 15:57.19 | lyken | its not online atm |
| 15:57.20 | CanyonMan | No kidding. Where do you go to school? |
| 15:57.30 | lyken | University of Queensland in australia |
| 15:57.36 | CanyonMan | Neat! |
| 15:57.48 | CanyonMan | The thing I am working on is mostly for home automation as well |
| 15:57.52 | lyken | i wrote that back in 2001 |
| 15:57.59 | CanyonMan | It's hooked up to my home security system which is on a Modicon PLC, speaking modbus |
| 15:58.01 | lyken | mine was awatering system |
| 15:58.09 | lyken | watering.. |
| 15:58.11 | CanyonMan | so the data collector I am talking about is actually using modbus to grab data |
| 15:58.14 | lyken | and matering system |
| 15:58.25 | CanyonMan | I also have an xfig based gui that runs in a webstart app |
| 15:58.26 | lyken | yeah i used postgresql for my db |
| 15:58.31 | CanyonMan | ah cool |
| 15:58.41 | CanyonMan | One of the things I did not want to do was directly expose the database though |
| 15:58.41 | lyken | cause it could handle all the updates i was doing |
| 15:58.51 | lyken | about 6000/min in my little test system |
| 15:59.09 | CanyonMan | so external access to the database is through my own database (jdbc) driver that I wrote that uses a very simple XML record format like this: |
| 15:59.14 | lyken | and then i have a weather station that does db inserts every minute |
| 15:59.33 | lyken | why have you gone to all that trouble of obviscating it ? |
| 15:59.47 | CanyonMan | Wow |
| 15:59.53 | CanyonMan | Do you think we were separated at birth? |
| 16:00.05 | lyken | i wrote server that took all that and inserted it |
| 16:00.17 | lyken | then i had a java front end and a web based system for control and reporting |
| 16:01.10 | CanyonMan | obfuscating the database access you mean? A bunch of reasons, one of them is to allow me to write something sort of like stored procedures but in java, and for databases that don't support stored procedures on their own ... and to impose a higher level of security. Also I wanted it to be completely accessible through http/https. And SOAP wasn't a good fit. |
| 16:01.14 | lyken | ive designed a complete home automation, integrated home solutions |
| 16:01.27 | CanyonMan | And there is an ANSI spec for XML recordsets but it is extremely heavy |
| 16:01.29 | lyken | dude |
| 16:01.32 | lyken | pick a db and stick with it |
| 16:01.46 | lyken | you will spend too much dev time getting to the data then actually playing with it |
| 16:01.49 | CanyonMan | Do you do any X10 work too? |
| 16:01.56 | lyken | not anymore |
| 16:01.59 | lyken | its old and horrible |
| 16:02.06 | CanyonMan | but cheap! |
| 16:02.14 | lyken | most of my stuff i wrote/designed myself |
| 16:02.30 | CanyonMan | hey that's neat |
| 16:02.36 | lyken | of course its cheap, cause its juts like sticking something onto the side of a device |
| 16:02.40 | lyken | its not integrated |
| 16:02.52 | CanyonMan | Is your major CS ? |
| 16:02.58 | lyken | it was eys |
| 16:03.09 | CanyonMan | was, eh? |
| 16:03.11 | lyken | i designed the sensors and controllers |
| 16:03.21 | lyken | but got some EE to finalize it and build it |
| 16:03.24 | lyken | as it wasnt my field |
| 16:03.30 | lyken | mine was software and User interface design |
| 16:03.37 | CanyonMan | That's mainly my field, I'm an electronics guy |
| 16:03.49 | lyken | homePLug, now that is handy |
| 16:03.59 | lyken | or elvin, they have controllers that work over powerlines and tcp/ip |
| 16:04.04 | lyken | there are many systems around now |
| 16:04.11 | CanyonMan | I have a lot of hope for zigbee but the stuff is pretty experimental right now |
| 16:04.13 | lyken | all my garden sensors used FM |
| 16:04.17 | lyken | and very simple control signals |
| 16:04.32 | lyken | they self charged thanks to solar panels |
| 16:04.41 | lyken | but i didnt extensively test them |
| 16:04.55 | lyken | as i had only one year to design, build, test and report it |
| 16:05.01 | CanyonMan | yeah. |
| 16:05.16 | lyken | but it kinda worked having had to restart the project 4 months in |
| 16:05.57 | lyken | cause it wasnt just a normal watering system |
| 16:06.01 | lyken | it went by a set of rules |
| 16:06.13 | lyken | it would only water on days it was authrosied to, and when the garden actually needed watering |
| 16:06.54 | CanyonMan | neat. |
| 16:06.58 | lyken | yeh |
| 16:07.11 | lyken | and my PhD thesis which im working on expands it |
| 16:07.32 | CanyonMan | one of the thigns I want to be able to do is to have external classes that are possibly also servlets that monitor the signals for changes and take certain actions, mainly notifications |
| 16:07.49 | lyken | why would you do that in a web application ? |
| 16:07.55 | lyken | seems like lots of overhead to me |
| 16:08.01 | lyken | id make a java server that did all that for me |
| 16:08.07 | lyken | and then a web app too look at the data |
| 16:08.13 | CanyonMan | It doesn't have to be |
| 16:08.38 | lyken | i spent 3 years researching home automation and 'smart' homes |
| 16:08.45 | lyken | and im gonna spend another 4, heh |
| 16:08.56 | CanyonMan | but I don't want those notification applications to have to poll for their status |
| 16:09.27 | lyken | sounds like its gonna need some beefy hardware to run |
| 16:09.38 | CanyonMan | I want them to receive the notification asynchronously |
| 16:09.51 | lyken | then write an asych app? :) |
| 16:11.21 | CanyonMan | that's the idea |
| 16:12.06 | CanyonMan | which is why I asked the question that I began with ... the thing that is collecting the data is (today) running as a webapp |
| 16:12.21 | lyken | well id say access is through the db |
| 16:12.31 | lyken | making webapps talk is more effort than its worth |
| 16:12.59 | CanyonMan | yeah. |
| 16:14.01 | CanyonMan | It's lunchtime here, I am goign to go grab a sandwich. It was nice to meet you, especially in that we (apaprently) have similar interests |
| 16:14.07 | CanyonMan | Hope to talk to you more |
| 16:14.21 | lyken | aights dude |
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| 18:47.36 | booga | anyone awake? |
| 18:48.35 | booga | i know this is not Tomcat related, but people here know thier way around linux. |
| 18:48.37 | booga | Is there a way to restart SSHD without restarting the computer? |
| 18:49.28 | booga | I found that after editing sshd_conf, the settings did not take unless i restart the test computer |
| 18:49.58 | booga | i should look for a linux channel for this :-) |
| 18:50.53 | traxy | also depends on distro rhel/centos you can do 'service sshd restart' as root |
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| 18:55.45 | mikeyb_work | "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" or "/etc/init.d/sshd restart" |
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| 19:20.52 | bear | hi all - figured I would ask and find out if someone already has done the fun work before I go and create a windows batch file to start tomcat |
| 19:21.27 | bear | google seems to be finding service related scripts |
| 19:35.49 | chrismon | tomcat comes with such scripts |
| 19:36.10 | chrismon | startup.bat, shutdown.bat |
| 19:44.50 | bear | yea, just realized that I was working with the linux distribution |
| 19:45.04 | bear | so I downloaded the zip and lo-and-behold -- batch files :) |
| 19:45.40 | bear | and they are written like I thought they would have to be so I feel better now :) |
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| 20:01.37 | jajmon | hi, why do i get "java.lang.InstantiationException: bean user not found within scope " ? shouldnt it be instantiated if it's not found? |
| 20:02.20 | jajmon | <jsp:useBean id="user" scope="session" type="model.User" /> |
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| 22:29.52 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 22:37.12 | jasonb | hi yassine |
| 22:38.14 | yassine | hi jasonb how is everything ? |
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| 23:18.36 | jasonb | yassine: busy busy, as usual. So, good I suppose. |
| 23:28.20 | yassine | :) okay |
| 23:35.35 | jasonb | How about you? |
| 23:55.25 | jasonb | That busy, eh? :) |
| 23:58.31 | yassine | i was trying to get oracle 10g runs on my debian box |
| 23:59.02 | yassine | okay jasonb good night im out to sleep now |