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| 01:14.39 | jieryn | hello, i am having an awful lot of trouble with tomcat vhosting, anyone have a few minutes? |
| 01:14.45 | jieryn | *name based vhosting |
| 01:15.28 | yassine | jieryn, i have a config template for you |
| 01:16.56 | jieryn | i'm finding some leads via google, but they just aren't working for my situation |
| 01:17.01 | jieryn | please post? :) thx! |
| 01:17.12 | jieryn | i'm using apache mod_proxy + tomcat |
| 01:18.39 | jieryn | yassine: where at? :-) |
| 01:18.53 | yassine | http://tomcat.developerz.de/helpOnVhosts |
| 01:19.15 | yassine | jieryn, if you changed something ill be glad if you can submit it there please |
| 01:19.25 | yassine | its late here so i have to go sleep |
| 01:19.40 | yassine | if its not working tomorow i can try to help you then |
| 01:19.44 | yassine | good night |
| 01:19.48 | jieryn | can i see your apache conf?? |
| 01:20.14 | jieryn | ahh, nm, i seee it.. thx :) |
| 01:21.39 | jieryn | this doesn't really help, sorry ... without having fully qualified path information about where you're storing stuff, i'm clueless |
| 01:35.12 | jieryn | i have a webapp which is getting deployed like three times, wtf |
| 01:35.26 | jieryn | i'm also seeing triplicate in my logs |
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| 02:20.33 | tonyg | hi, does everyone know about this taglib issue in post 5.5.12 tomcat but me? |
| 02:20.33 | tonyg | http://www.nabble.com/DO-NOT-REPLY--Bug-39663---New:----%22JasperException:-File--TLD-Name--not-found%22-with-zero-length-context-path-t1683696.html |
| 02:20.33 | tonyg | does anyone have any info on this bug and know when it might be fixed? |
| 02:22.18 | jasonb | If it's still an open bug, that means probably none of the committers have looked at it yet, which means nobody is working on it if that is the case. But, usually soon enough a committer will verify whether it is indeed a bug in Tomcat or not. |
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| 02:50.18 | Kira | What's a good starting place to learn EJB? |
| 02:50.52 | Kira | (actually, I don't even know what JavaBeans is) |
| 03:01.43 | jasonb | Don't bother with EJB. |
| 03:01.50 | jasonb | You almost certainly don't need it. |
| 03:02.15 | jasonb | And, if you did learn EJB, as soon as you learned it enough to write some, the spec would change, then you wouldn't know EJB anymore. |
| 03:03.09 | Kira | jasonb: lol. Well, I wanted to at least find out what the heck is all the buzz about (I saw a lot of job postings for people who can do EJB). |
| 03:04.12 | Kira | I take it that the JSP and servlet specs are a lot stabler and more useful than EJB? |
| 03:05.15 | jasonb | Yes.. that is exactly the case. |
| 03:05.58 | jasonb | Kira: Look at it this way: if a job posting says you need to know EJB, and you find out from them that the job is (in part) to develop some EJBs, then you're better off without that job. |
| 03:06.12 | Kira | I wonder if I can pull it off by applying to a job that demands EJB and then convincing them that they don't need EJB at the interview. :P |
| 03:06.20 | jasonb | Kira: Some employers list it as a "must know", but then they don't even use it. |
| 03:06.28 | Kira | oh |
| 03:06.52 | jasonb | You will likely not be able to convince the fools who are already convinced that EJB helps them in some way. |
| 03:06.58 | Kira | hahaha |
| 03:07.12 | Kira | so I should avoid those companies altogether, eh? |
| 03:07.15 | jasonb | But, you also shouldn't bother trying to work with them either. |
| 03:07.17 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 03:07.23 | jasonb | Unless they actually do not use EJB. |
| 03:07.32 | Kira | LOL |
| 03:07.51 | jasonb | Sometimes the HR people write the job reqs, and during the interview you come to find out that they don't use half of what was listed in the job posting. |
| 03:08.15 | Kira | great, that puts back more confidence in me. |
| 03:08.21 | jasonb | Sometimes, also, they're looking for a good webapp developer, and they think of that as "J2EE", which is wrong, so they look up the technologies in J2EE and list them in the job posting. |
| 03:08.33 | jasonb | Yeah, this is how it is in the real world. |
| 03:08.42 | jasonb | Very few people are actually using EJB these days, and that's good. |
| 03:09.07 | jasonb | If I had to recommend a Java EE (formerly J2EE) application server that includes EJB, I'd recommend Apache Geronimo. |
| 03:09.49 | jasonb | Geronimo includes both Tomcat and Jetty, although I think they default to Jetty because they didn't take the time to understand Tomcat first, and also because some of their committers are Jetty developers. :) |
| 03:10.40 | jasonb | But, honestly, basically nobody needs EJB.. regardless of which different version of the spec you refer to. |
| 03:11.12 | jasonb | It's something that took me a couple/few years to really understand, but it's the truth. |
| 03:12.22 | Kira | ok. :) |
| 03:14.26 | jasonb | The cool thing is: Tomcat stand-alone implements just about all the rest. :) |
| 03:15.17 | jasonb | And, what it doesn't implement can be easily added on. |
| 03:15.39 | jasonb | (like JMS) |
| 03:16.03 | jasonb | Now, it may end up helping you to learn some things about JMS. |
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| 03:18.12 | Kira | In other words, you are suggesting that if I do learn EJB, just learn the things in EJB that are missing from vanilla jsp and servlets, and then think of ways to implement them without EJB, correct? |
| 03:20.02 | jasonb | Well, not really. I'm saying it's a waste of time to study EJB. Also, EJB and servlet webapps have some overlap. It would be hard to study the parts of EJB that Tomcat doesn't already implement when you're free to implement whatever you want in a webapp. |
| 03:20.44 | jasonb | EJB didn't really solve any particular problem that, say, Tomcat and JPOX don't already solve. |
| 03:20.45 | Kira | ah, I get it now. |
| 03:21.24 | jasonb | And, however much time you put into studying EJB goes right out the window when the next version of the spec comes out.. |
| 03:21.40 | jasonb | That has been the case for every version through the years since the beginning of EJB. |
| 03:32.49 | lyken | lol |
| 03:33.22 | lyken | jasonb: my friend was getting Sun Enterprise architect qualifications and i had a laugh |
| 03:35.11 | Kira | lyken: and EJB is at the core of that qualification? |
| 03:35.25 | lyken | part of it yer |
| 03:35.29 | lyken | well his work is paying for it |
| 03:35.30 | lyken | so its ok |
| 03:35.33 | lyken | if he had to pay for it |
| 03:35.36 | lyken | he wouldnt do it |
| 03:35.41 | Kira | lol |
| 03:35.49 | lyken | he's got pretty much every sun java qualification there is |
| 03:41.53 | jasonb | lyken: And does that help him? |
| 03:42.46 | lyken | well he's paid a lot |
| 03:42.52 | lyken | and he really knows his shit when it comes to java |
| 03:43.13 | jasonb | lyken: How long has he been programming? |
| 03:43.56 | jasonb | As of this fall, I've been programming, basically daily, for 25 years. |
| 03:44.10 | lyken | jasonb: he's the same age as me |
| 03:44.17 | lyken | and he's on $90k/yr |
| 03:44.42 | Kira | o.O |
| 03:44.54 | lyken | jasonb: you're also 15 years older than me no? |
| 03:44.57 | lyken | or is it 10? hehe |
| 03:45.09 | Kira | let me guess.. |
| 03:45.14 | Kira | 150k/yr |
| 03:45.16 | jasonb | I'm 35 now, will be 36 in late September. |
| 03:45.45 | jasonb | Kira: I make less than that.. somewhere in the middle. :) |
| 03:46.46 | lyken | lol |
| 03:46.54 | lyken | and take off the zero and then some more |
| 03:46.57 | lyken | and thats my annual |
| 03:46.58 | lyken | lol |
| 03:47.00 | jasonb | lyken: How old are you again? |
| 03:47.08 | lyken | 25 |
| 03:47.25 | jasonb | lyken: Well, you've done well for that age, that's for sure. |
| 03:47.51 | lyken | not me |
| 03:47.57 | lyken | ive never earned over 60K/yr :( |
| 03:47.58 | jasonb | yes, you. |
| 03:48.05 | lyken | i just know a lot about a lot |
| 03:48.13 | jasonb | Well, accomplishments aren't always measured in salary. :) |
| 03:48.15 | lyken | and ive only owned a computer since 2000 |
| 03:48.23 | jasonb | WOW. |
| 03:48.31 | jasonb | You really have come a long way in a short amount of time. |
| 03:48.35 | Kira | jasonb: where do you work? :) |
| 03:48.39 | lyken | yer, i grew up really poor |
| 03:48.45 | lyken | he tracks aliens ! |
| 03:48.47 | jasonb | Kira: I find planets for a living. |
| 03:48.49 | lyken | x-files ! |
| 03:49.08 | jasonb | Kira: This is my current project: http://kepler.nasa.gov/ |
| 03:49.36 | jasonb | We could indeed find aliens.. we just don't know until we try. :) |
| 03:49.43 | Kira | Need a junior java dev there? ;) |
| 03:49.55 | jasonb | "Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, 'cause there's |
| 03:49.55 | jasonb | bugger-all down here on earth." -- Monty Python |
| 03:51.43 | lyken | jasonb: i started using computers in 95 at school |
| 03:51.47 | lyken | and was ircing by then |
| 03:51.54 | lyken | but didnt own a computer at home till 2000 |
| 03:52.04 | lyken | in the second year of my computer science degree |
| 03:52.16 | jasonb | Wow. |
| 03:52.33 | lyken | so yer i guess i have come along way :/ |
| 03:52.47 | lyken | heh |
| 03:52.53 | lyken | i was 1yrs old in 82 |
| 03:53.00 | jasonb | But, I wrote video games on the TRS-80 Model 1 in 1981. |
| 03:53.05 | lyken | heh |
| 03:53.13 | lyken | i taught myself C without a comptuer |
| 03:53.18 | lyken | i used to write my apps on the train on paper |
| 03:53.25 | lyken | and compile it at school |
| 03:53.32 | jasonb | heh! |
| 03:53.38 | jasonb | I did that with basic back in the 80's. |
| 03:53.43 | lyken | i used to write large sections of my stuff in asm |
| 03:53.49 | lyken | cause i found that C couldnt do it fast enough |
| 03:53.55 | jasonb | I wrote all kinds of software down on paper first for lack of a laptop. :) |
| 03:54.18 | lyken | me and a friend wrote a dos4gw level VGA driver for dos to make our assignment look cooler |
| 03:54.18 | jasonb | C/C++ used to be way, way slower. |
| 03:54.33 | jasonb | haha |
| 03:54.41 | jasonb | lyken: Did you ever write TSRs? |
| 03:54.42 | lyken | yer it had mouse and video and a screen saver |
| 03:55.15 | jasonb | (MS-DOG TSRs I mean) |
| 03:55.16 | lyken | only a format like virus |
| 03:55.35 | jasonb | That's what they were best for writing. :) They were fuuuuuuun |
| 03:55.41 | lyken | hehe |
| 03:55.53 | lyken | yer i me and my buddy used to write lots of virus in high school |
| 03:55.58 | lyken | one of them actually got into the wild too |
| 03:56.31 | jasonb | I wrote a TSR that waits like 20 mins, then picks a letter on the screen and makes it fall straight down until it hits another letter.. then waits 20 mins again and does the same thing. Then, I went into an all-dos computer lab and put it on each machine and waited and watched. :) |
| 03:56.31 | lyken | we just kinda stopped telling people that we wrote them when my friends uncles computer got infected with our virus from his work computers |
| 03:56.53 | jasonb | haha |
| 03:56.57 | lyken | we were like, err how did that computer get it? |
| 03:57.15 | jasonb | That rocks. |
| 03:57.17 | lyken | arh the mid 90s so much fun |
| 03:57.48 | lyken | i decided to change my uni major from linguistics to comptuer science when i worked out how to modify windows while it was running |
| 03:57.52 | lyken | using softice |
| 03:57.56 | jasonb | haha |
| 03:58.09 | jasonb | Good switch. |
| 03:58.10 | lyken | we used to have competitions |
| 03:58.21 | lyken | install shareware on the windows box |
| 03:58.38 | lyken | open up the shareware exe in a hex editor and randomly trash the exe |
| 03:58.40 | lyken | then start the app |
| 03:58.48 | lyken | and time trial to see who could recover it the fastest |
| 03:58.49 | jasonb | heh |
| 03:58.53 | Kira | linguistics and computer science are not so far apart if you follow the path through Chomsky. :P |
| 03:59.07 | jasonb | ugh. |
| 03:59.09 | lyken | jumping through memory in real time is fun |
| 03:59.35 | lyken | its like, whats that, no you shouldnt be at that register you should be here |
| 03:59.40 | lyken | mov ax,bx |
| 03:59.47 | lyken | zing, and where able to quit the app again |
| 04:02.45 | lyken | lol |
| 04:02.47 | lyken | GA's ? |
| 04:02.59 | lyken | that was my first "real" internship |
| 04:03.06 | lyken | was studying genetic algorithms |
| 04:03.15 | lyken | 2 months after i got my pc at home |
| 04:04.16 | jasonb | That sounds fun. |
| 04:05.03 | lyken | yer it was a lot for a second year student to take in |
| 04:05.27 | lyken | the prof handed me a pile of books and goes "ill give you a month to read these then quiz you, if you answer right, you got the job" |
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| 04:07.38 | jasonb | ouch. |
| 04:08.34 | lyken | well I got the internship :) |
| 04:08.41 | jasonb | Congrats on that! |
| 04:09.56 | lyken | yer now i just gotta get this damn masters finished |
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| 04:19.27 | lyken | hmm reading about china modifying the weather to make it rain |
| 04:19.30 | lyken | thats pretty hardcore |
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| 04:32.47 | lyken | damn aussies |
| 04:32.51 | lyken | with their crappy internet |
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| 05:06.46 | nilesh111 | linux:~ # tomcat5 start |
| 05:06.46 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_BASE: /usr/share/tomcat5 |
| 05:06.46 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_HOME: /usr/share/tomcat5 |
| 05:06.46 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat5/temp |
| 05:06.46 | nilesh111 | Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/lib/jvm/java |
| 05:06.47 | nilesh111 | /usr/bin/dtomcat5: line 284: /var/run/tomcat5.pid: Permission denied |
| 05:06.49 | nilesh111 | linux:~ # |
| 05:06.59 | nilesh111 | can anybody help me to start tomcat5??? |
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| 05:10.21 | nilesh111 | anybody alive??? |
| 05:11.51 | lyken | not usually |
| 05:12.01 | lyken | but then again, pasting lines of nothing doesnt help either |
| 05:12.53 | nilesh111 | linux:/usr/share/tomcat5/conf # dtomcat5 start |
| 05:12.54 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_BASE: /usr/share/tomcat5 |
| 05:12.54 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_HOME: /usr/share/tomcat5 |
| 05:12.54 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat5/temp |
| 05:12.54 | nilesh111 | Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/lib/jvm/java |
| 05:13.21 | nilesh111 | i need command to setup the path of this directories |
| 05:13.37 | nilesh111 | so that my tomcat starts |
| 05:13.39 | lyken | well you used a package management system to install tomcat |
| 05:13.45 | lyken | which is an os problem |
| 05:13.48 | lyken | not a tomcat problem |
| 05:13.57 | lyken | debian and redhat both BREAK tomcat |
| 05:14.06 | lyken | and so do most other packages |
| 05:14.21 | wah | lyken: what does debian do to break tomcat? |
| 05:14.39 | lyken | wah: its debian, their java packages have always been broken and outdated |
| 05:15.11 | wah | lyken: ah, because of java. thanks for the information! |
| 05:15.24 | nilesh111 | i am using SUSE |
| 05:15.24 | lyken | tomcat is so finicky |
| 05:15.32 | lyken | that i install my own java and tomcat bins |
| 05:15.39 | lyken | cause i know that the OS cant break it (too much) |
| 05:15.50 | lyken | nilesh111: meh, still redhat like.. |
| 05:16.32 | nilesh111 | i tried to install it on redhat too but then i switched to SUSE |
| 05:16.47 | lyken | and it didnt work so you changed your OS ? |
| 05:16.47 | lyken | LOL |
| 05:16.51 | nilesh111 | actually i need TOMCAT for OPen-xchange server |
| 05:16.59 | nilesh111 | lol no |
| 05:17.15 | lyken | well install sun jvm + tomcat bins form the website |
| 05:17.20 | lyken | and i bet you $10 it'll work out of the box |
| 05:17.26 | nilesh111 | but the problem was that OX doesnt works properly on REDHAT |
| 05:17.29 | lyken | and if it doesnt, its cause you dont know java |
| 05:17.34 | lyken | redhat 9? |
| 05:17.40 | lyken | cause redhat9 + java == BLEH |
| 05:17.44 | nilesh111 | yes |
| 05:17.50 | lyken | cause there is threading issues in the redhat 9 kernel |
| 05:17.52 | lyken | that breaks java |
| 05:17.59 | nilesh111 | there were lots of dependancies problesm |
| 05:18.27 | lyken | and java is broken on the 2.4 kernel in rh9 also :) |
| 05:18.50 | nilesh111 | but i think on SUSE - JAVA AND TOMCAT both are installed successfully |
| 05:19.03 | nilesh111 | i just need to setup home path and base path for java |
| 05:19.25 | nilesh111 | and then it will be able to start tomcat5 |
| 05:19.26 | lyken | how did you setup java ? |
| 05:19.36 | nilesh111 | i have installed j2sdk |
| 05:19.39 | nilesh111 | and jre |
| 05:19.45 | nilesh111 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.49 | lyken | the sun ones ? |
| 05:19.52 | nilesh111 | yes |
| 05:20.35 | wah | nilesh111: then have a look at dtomcat5 - that must be a script somewhere, have a look at the start block and add something like 'export JAVA_HOME=......' before the starting command |
| 05:20.55 | lyken | or set JAVA_HOME as an env var |
| 05:20.58 | lyken | it should be anyways |
| 05:21.20 | lyken | system wide i mean |
| 05:21.21 | lyken | heh |
| 05:40.14 | nilesh111 | :( |
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| 06:25.41 | nilesh111 | which compatability packages are required by tomcat?? |
| 06:26.00 | nilesh111 | This release of Apache Tomcat was packaged to run on J2SE 5.0 |
| 06:26.01 | nilesh111 | or later. It can be run on earlier JVMs by downloading and |
| 06:26.01 | nilesh111 | installing a compatibility package from the Apache Tomcat |
| 06:26.01 | nilesh111 | binary download page. |
| 06:26.56 | nilesh111 | when i started my tomcat using "sh catalina.sh start" it showed me the above message |
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| 07:09.33 | nilesh111 | is any expert of TOMCAT available here??? |
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| 10:13.23 | yassine | hi * |
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| 10:27.29 | nilesh111 | linux:/srv/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28/bin # sh catalina.sh start |
| 10:27.29 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_BASE: /srv/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28 |
| 10:27.29 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_HOME: /srv/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28 |
| 10:27.30 | nilesh111 | Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /srv/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28/temp |
| 10:27.32 | nilesh111 | Using JAVA_HOME: /usr/lib/jvm/java |
| 10:27.34 | nilesh111 | linux:/srv/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28/bin # |
| 10:27.44 | nilesh111 | does anybody have any idea what does this mean?? |
| 10:30.19 | nilesh111 | http://pastebin.com/759391 |
| 10:35.20 | jasonb | hi yassine |
| 10:35.32 | yassine | good morning jasonb |
| 10:35.41 | nilesh111 | http://pastebin.com/759396 |
| 10:35.59 | jasonb | I'm awake at 3:35am because I'm still sick and can't sleep. :( |
| 10:36.15 | nilesh111 | http://pastebin.com/759391 |
| 10:36.16 | yassine | shit, this not good buddy |
| 10:36.22 | yassine | have you seen a doc ? |
| 10:36.30 | jasonb | I know. Yes, I've seen plenty of docs. |
| 10:36.38 | jasonb | I at least have my fever under control. |
| 10:46.09 | nilesh111 | http://pastebin.com/759407 |
| 10:46.26 | nilesh111 | i cant start my tomcat server |
| 10:46.36 | nilesh111 | help me if anybody have any idea regarding my problem |
| 11:11.24 | nilesh111 | what is the default password and username for tomcat? |
| 11:12.16 | jasonb | ibot: toptentips |
| 11:12.16 | ibot | [toptentips] http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/06/25/tomcat_tips.html |
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| 14:19.55 | Magec | Hi, I have a security problem with tomcat. I have an application that autenticates the user and establishes a JSESSIONID cookie to keep the auth session. The server is using a non encrypted channel in such a way that using sniffers a person can take the cookie of another one.... If I want to avoid such situation I could use https instead of http but I dont whant the whole application to run over ssl. What can I do? |
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| 14:28.06 | thssch | Hi all, any experts around that have spend time on using php within tomcat? |
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| 15:17.03 | jajmon | hi, im having some problems with struts/sitemesh |
| 15:17.12 | jajmon | http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=33423 |
| 15:18.11 | jajmon | any ideas? |
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| 15:34.36 | protoloco | Hello, i have installed tomcat from the package, and im Using Fedora.. but i dont know what to do know cuz when i do localhost:8080 i get a page in Blank. what elsedo i need tor un JSP pages... |
| 15:34.50 | protoloco | besides. i heard that i need de mod_jk package to link apache and Tomcat ? |
| 15:34.52 | protoloco | im confused |
| 15:35.32 | jajmon | you need that if you want apache to process php for example |
| 15:35.47 | jajmon | for jsp/html you only need tomcat |
| 15:35.58 | protoloco | i have apache already... |
| 15:36.21 | protoloco | yeah but, it supposed to show a default tomcat page .. |
| 15:36.25 | protoloco | and i dont get nothing. |
| 15:36.28 | jajmon | have you started tomcat? :) |
| 15:36.33 | protoloco | yeah |
| 15:36.39 | protoloco | the port 8080 is already open |
| 15:37.08 | jajmon | hmm |
| 15:38.02 | jajmon | you might have to fiddle with the classpath, cant remember :S |
| 15:38.16 | protoloco | :S |
| 15:51.57 | protoloco | i dont know why im still having this version of java, if i have installed already the JDK package. |
| 15:52.01 | protoloco | [root@linux etc]# java --version |
| 15:52.01 | protoloco | java version "1.4.2" |
| 15:52.01 | protoloco | gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1) |
| 15:52.11 | protoloco | should i uninstall libgcj ? |
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| 16:35.53 | bosko | Hi, I'm trying to include a tag file but it doesnt seem to be recognizing it at all. I am doing: <%@ taglib prefix="tags" tagdir="/WEB-INF/tags" %> |
| 16:36.05 | bosko | And within that directory, I have the "products.tag" file |
| 16:36.31 | bosko | wow nevermind, I am idiot :p |
| 16:36.33 | protoloco | i have installedc Tomcat fromt he page of tomcat, with the Script of Startup.sh .. now tomcat works fine, but how do i get tomcat bootup always when i restart the sErver ? |
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| 16:40.28 | protoloco | besides, where do i get the Administration tool of Tomcat |
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| 16:44.56 | bosko | Is there something I need to add to my web.xml for a tag file to "work"? Right now, its not parsing any of the attributes Im passing, but is otherwise displaying fine |
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| 16:47.34 | yassine | hi * |
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| 16:48.12 | livar | hello, i have a problem, when i deploy my application tomcat doesn't add the context to the beginning of the links |
| 16:48.24 | livar | how can i solve it??? |
| 16:51.46 | yassine | livar, im sorry i dont understand what you mean can you please explain that a bit more maybe i can then help! |
| 16:54.00 | livar | for example, i have a application on the /question context |
| 16:54.08 | livar | and the index page has a link |
| 16:54.41 | livar | when i click on the link, i get a resource not found exception, because it's accessing http://localhost:8080/link |
| 16:54.54 | livar | instead of http://localhost:8080/question/link |
| 16:56.52 | livar | can you help me? |
| 16:59.15 | yassine | ahh okay |
| 16:59.32 | yassine | so is your link application inside your question application ? |
| 16:59.54 | livar | link is like a page |
| 17:00.02 | livar | is not another application |
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| 17:01.46 | yassine | livar, like this ? <a href="http://localhost/question">page</a> ?? |
| 17:02.55 | livar | yes |
| 17:03.14 | bosko | Are JSP Tag files a 2.0 only thing? |
| 17:03.15 | livar | like http://localhost/question/page.html |
| 17:03.25 | livar | no idea, jhahahaha |
| 17:04.44 | livar | its like, i have a link inside my application, when i deploy it to tomcat, tomcat should add the context of the application to the link |
| 17:04.50 | livar | shoudn't it |
| 17:04.51 | livar | ? |
| 17:05.04 | yassine | yes you should |
| 17:05.15 | yassine | otherwise you wont reach that page |
| 17:05.59 | livar | i should add the context myself or tomcat would do it itself? |
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| 17:06.07 | snakeman | yassine: thanks |
| 17:06.07 | livar | that's my doubt |
| 17:06.36 | yassine | livar, you should add it |
| 17:06.42 | yassine | snakeman, your welcome |
| 17:07.55 | livar | ok, thank you then |
| 17:07.56 | livar | :d |
| 17:09.08 | yassine | i hope that helps |
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| 17:13.04 | yassine | snakeman, how is everything ? |
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| 17:46.08 | protoloco | somebody can help me ? |
| 17:46.24 | protoloco | When i go to the bin/jsvs-src |
| 17:46.32 | protoloco | to get my tomcat run as a daemon (bootup) |
| 17:46.45 | protoloco | the manual says type: autoconf |
| 17:46.59 | protoloco | there is no autoconf in the directory anyways i try to run it, as it says.. |
| 17:47.36 | protoloco | and i get, command not found |
| 17:47.50 | zambaroo | install autoconf. |
| 17:48.14 | protoloco | so my problem if the server restarts by some reason (light-out) i gotta run the script again (startup.sh) |
| 17:48.17 | protoloco | oh. |
| 17:48.39 | zambaroo | and the problem you're describing is normal. |
| 17:48.59 | zambaroo | if you want that script to run automatically, add it to rc.local |
| 17:49.24 | zambaroo | i am assume you're running on a linux host, of course. |
| 17:50.06 | protoloco | yeah |
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| 18:21.55 | yassine | jasonb, there ? |
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| 19:12.17 | protoloco | hello |
| 19:12.20 | protoloco | somebody can help me ? |
| 19:12.23 | protoloco | i have problems.. |
| 19:12.36 | protoloco | i want to run tomcat as a daemon and besides, run it, in the Bootup time.. |
| 19:14.08 | protoloco | [root@linux jsvc-src]# ./configure |
| 19:14.08 | protoloco | bash: ./configure: Permiso denegado |
| 19:14.19 | protoloco | im follwing the manaul of tomcat.. and i get Permission denied.. |
| 19:19.43 | fallout | who owns the configure script? |
| 19:20.01 | fallout | you probably don't have sufficient permissions to run it. |
| 19:20.07 | fallout | do you have root access to the machine? |
| 19:21.16 | protoloco | yeah |
| 19:21.20 | protoloco | c-src]# |
| 19:21.21 | protoloco | see.. |
| 19:21.25 | protoloco | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.27 | protoloco | :) |
| 19:22.44 | protoloco | fallout, thanks man, you gave the idea... |
| 19:22.51 | protoloco | configure was with little bit of permissions |
| 19:29.14 | fallout | you're welcome |
| 19:43.15 | protoloco | root@linux native]# sh Tomcat5.sh start |
| 19:43.15 | protoloco | 05/06/2006 14:41:37 14955 jsvc error: Cannot find any VM in Java Home /usr/lib/jdk |
| 19:43.33 | protoloco | im trying to run tomcat as a daemon and besides in the startup of Fedora core 5... |
| 19:43.48 | protoloco | [root@linux native]# echo $JAVA_HOME |
| 19:43.49 | protoloco | /usr/lib/jdk |
| 19:43.54 | fallout | hmm |
| 19:44.22 | protoloco | [root@linux native]# which java |
| 19:44.22 | protoloco | /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0_07/bin/java |
| 19:44.27 | protoloco | maybe affects something over here ? |
| 19:44.29 | fallout | i see. |
| 19:45.02 | protoloco | i gotta put /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0_07/bin/java ?? |
| 19:45.24 | fallout | $JAVA_HOME should probable be /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0_07/ |
| 19:45.32 | fallout | did you install from rpm? |
| 19:45.36 | protoloco | /usr/lib/jdk points.. |
| 19:45.41 | protoloco | mm from a .bin |
| 19:45.55 | protoloco | jdk is a simbolik link to jdk1.5.x... |
| 19:46.12 | protoloco | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 may 31 11:06 /usr/lib/jdk -> jdk1.5.0_07 |
| 19:46.13 | fallout | perhaps that's causing trouble |
| 19:46.17 | protoloco | yeah |
| 19:46.19 | protoloco | let me try |
| 19:47.41 | protoloco | [root@linux native]# sh Tomcat5.sh start |
| 19:47.42 | protoloco | 05/06/2006 14:47:21 15012 jsvc error: Cannot find any VM in Java Home /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0_07 |
| 19:47.42 | protoloco | Tomcat5.sh: line 48: 15012 Violación de segmento $DAEMON_HOME/bin/jsvc -user $TOMCAT_USER -home |
| 19:47.45 | protoloco | i got the same... |
| 19:48.16 | protoloco | [root@linux native]# java -version |
| 19:48.16 | protoloco | java version "1.5.0_07" |
| 19:48.16 | protoloco | Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-b03) |
| 19:48.23 | protoloco | sorry for the Paste... |
| 19:50.59 | protoloco | fallout, any ideas ? |
| 19:52.51 | fallout | did you choose to install to /usr/lib? |
| 19:52.59 | fallout | do you have a /usr/java? |
| 19:53.20 | protoloco | i dont have usr/java |
| 19:53.31 | protoloco | everything is in usr/lib/jdk1.5.Xxx |
| 19:54.35 | protoloco | tomcat is running ok, jboss also, everything says that java is in there, just when i try to make the script or daemon to bootup the script.. |
| 19:54.37 | protoloco | i get that error. |
| 19:54.39 | protoloco | weird |
| 19:58.57 | fallout | i'm not sure what the cause is. |
| 19:59.06 | fallout | perhaps someone more experienced can assist you. |
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| 20:08.25 | snakeman | does anyone actually run a tomcat on VPS? if so, what are the memory concerns? |
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| 21:48.52 | DarkStorm | Hi. Is there a way to modify the classpath for a servlet? |
| 21:49.05 | DarkStorm | Hm no. Not servlet. I meant an entire webapp |
| 21:55.31 | jasonb | DarkStorm: Yeah, change the contents of WEB-INF/lib and WEB-INF/classes |
| 21:56.03 | DarkStorm | nah i want to create a bunch of virtual hosts all using the same classpath but _not_ by simply copying my classes to the common/libs dir |
| 21:56.27 | DarkStorm | all the vhosts should basically run the same application with different templates. thats why i want to reduce replication of my jars |
| 22:02.27 | jasonb | That's what the shared/lib and shared/classes dirs are for. |
| 22:03.08 | DarkStorm | yeah but i can't (for example) let eclipse output to those folders (since they are not part of my project) |
| 22:03.22 | jasonb | That's an eclipse problem, not a Tomcat problem. |
| 22:03.50 | jasonb | Use a symlink maybe? |
| 22:03.59 | DarkStorm | I would |
| 22:04.06 | DarkStorm | But I am developing on Windows |
| 22:04.13 | DarkStorm | I'll use a symlink on the deployment machine |
| 22:04.16 | jasonb | Then you're using two incapable packages.. sorry. :) |
| 22:04.43 | DarkStorm | I am thinking of subclassing WebappLoader hmm |
| 22:04.53 | DarkStorm | Since you can't configure the default implementation for some reason |
| 22:04.58 | jasonb | Sure you can. |
| 22:05.02 | jasonb | Why can't you? |
| 22:05.11 | DarkStorm | http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/loader.html |
| 22:05.23 | DarkStorm | There are no tags for adding new repositories to the standard implementation of WebappLoader |
| 22:05.42 | jasonb | what about catalina.properties? :) |
| 22:05.43 | DarkStorm | From what I can tell you have to subclass WebappLoader and add new repositories in the constructor |
| 22:05.49 | DarkStorm | Where the hell is that file? :) |
| 22:05.53 | jasonb | conf/ |
| 22:06.04 | DarkStorm | ooooooops |
| 22:06.07 | jasonb | heh |
| 22:06.14 | jasonb | That's what we're here for. :) |
| 22:06.25 | DarkStorm | aaaah common.loader. Thats what i was looking for |
| 22:06.47 | yassine | hi again |
| 22:06.49 | DarkStorm | Or shared.loader. Well i'll have a look anyway. Thanks :) |
| 22:06.53 | jasonb | hi yassine. |
| 22:07.00 | jasonb | DarkStorm: You're welcome |
| 22:07.13 | yassine | jasonb, its daisy :) |
| 22:07.18 | jasonb | ahh.. how come? |
| 22:07.23 | yassine | but im now testing mmbase |
| 22:07.34 | yassine | so i can make my decison definitive |
| 22:07.40 | jasonb | Yeah, I always thought mmbase was better than opencms.. for the record. |
| 22:07.51 | yassine | its hight scalable |
| 22:07.59 | yassine | daisy |
| 22:08.08 | jasonb | How do you know? |
| 22:08.11 | yassine | and it have an own document definition structure |
| 22:08.30 | yassine | daisy is splitted into 3 main component or 4 |
| 22:08.31 | jasonb | Why is having its own doc structure helpful? |
| 22:09.00 | yassine | jasonb, yes since i need to define document format for underwriter |
| 22:09.19 | jasonb | ok. |
| 22:09.38 | yassine | like i told you its beein composed of 3 or 4 main component |
| 22:09.46 | jasonb | Well, let me know how it goes.. It's very interesting. |
| 22:10.13 | yassine | openjms,repository server,daisywiki , and a database |
| 22:10.45 | yassine | they only thing that makes me a bit unconfortable is that its using jetty (its embedded into daisywiki) |
| 22:11.00 | jasonb | The screen shots of daisy look nice. |
| 22:11.24 | yassine | i have 2 options 1 running it with tomcat and run apache in the front and set access via mod_proxy |
| 22:11.35 | jasonb | Well, if you don't use daisywiki, can it run on Tomcat? |
| 22:12.06 | yassine | its the only part that is beein seen when accessing daisy |
| 22:12.16 | yassine | daisy is a wiki system with cms feautures |
| 22:12.32 | jasonb | There's always JspWiki: http://jspwiki.org/ |
| 22:12.45 | yassine | i have seen that |
| 22:12.51 | yassine | and xwiki too |
| 22:13.21 | jasonb | I think what I'd try is: separate the daisywiki webapp from jetty, and deploy it on Tomcat. :) |
| 22:14.17 | yassine | but i know that there is no way without apache so im going to dig into mod_proxy <->daisy(tomcat)-Howto |
| 22:14.30 | jasonb | Why do you have to use Apache? |
| 22:14.39 | yassine | but first i need to test mmbase and confulence |
| 22:15.07 | yassine | apache is listnint on 80 without root user behinde it |
| 22:15.18 | jasonb | so? Tomcat can do that. |
| 22:15.55 | yassine | as a root ? |
| 22:16.08 | jasonb | Either as root, or as a non-root user. Which ever one you need it to be. |
| 22:16.55 | yassine | i want the technical manager to be satisfied and i know he is going to say nooo apache is faster and stuff and when i will say here look these are the benchmarking |
| 22:17.11 | yassine | he will then say apache is secure since it does not need root to run |
| 22:17.14 | jasonb | Apache is not faster. |
| 22:17.19 | yassine | depends |
| 22:17.27 | jasonb | Apache is actually *less* secure in this configuration. |
| 22:17.32 | yassine | each of both have its strength |
| 22:18.22 | jasonb | The majority of your requests will be images and dynamic content. Proxying every request from the browser to Apache to mod_proxy to Tomcat and all the way back is slower than if it's just browser --> Tomcat and back. |
| 22:19.02 | jasonb | The images you could put on Apache, but recent benchmarks show apache about the same speed as Tomcat serving static content like images. |
| 22:19.24 | yassine | so you mean i should deploy daisy into tomcat and let it run as a httpserver ? |
| 22:19.30 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 22:20.09 | jasonb | It's simpler to set up, simpler to maintain, more secure, and faster. |
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| 22:27.06 | jasonb | yassine: They're just uninformed about how to get Tomcat listening on port 80 without root. That's all. So, they added an additional web server to fix the lack of understanding.. :) That's worse. |
| 22:27.57 | yassine | mhhh |
| 22:28.02 | yassine | :) |
| 22:28.50 | jasonb | They're apparently unaware that you can run Tomcat like that. |
| 22:29.01 | jasonb | There are two ways to do it: |
| 22:29.07 | yassine | mmbase is a bit differnt nothing like a wysiwyg editor inside |
| 22:29.14 | jasonb | 1) with jsvc (it's built for this very purpose) |
| 22:29.39 | jasonb | 2) using linux's built-in iptables to forward connections destined for port 80 to port 8080. |
| 22:29.50 | jasonb | Both of these work well. |
| 22:29.57 | jasonb | I personally prefer 2). |
| 22:30.08 | jasonb | It's more of a way to tell the OS you're allowing it. |
| 22:30.16 | yassine | do you have a such rule ? |
| 22:30.19 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 22:30.31 | jasonb | Hold on.. |
| 22:30.32 | yassine | tomcat.developerz.de <-- |
| 22:30.35 | yassine | :) |
| 22:30.41 | jasonb | T:TDG 2ED. :) |
| 22:31.21 | jasonb | I'll give it to you to post for everyone to see if you want to, since I think it's the best solution. :) |
| 22:31.58 | jasonb | Actually.. have a look at this: |
| 22:32.00 | jasonb | http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/Installing+Tomcat+on+port+80+with+iptables |
| 22:32.11 | yassine | ok :) |
| 22:32.36 | yassine | lol do you know which system is running there ? |
| 22:32.46 | jasonb | Where? |
| 22:32.59 | yassine | there where the howto is |
| 22:33.04 | jasonb | nope.. |
| 22:33.06 | yassine | its the next candidate i need to test :) |
| 22:33.16 | yassine | confluence |
| 22:33.29 | yassine | its open source non free product |
| 22:33.57 | yassine | i have requested it also for my wiki dedicated to this channel but they did not answers |
| 22:34.15 | jasonb | damn, that's very commercial though. |
| 22:34.15 | yassine | since you can apply for an opensource license |
| 22:34.40 | yassine | but i was not lucky with them these australian guys eats too much kangoroo :) |
| 22:34.48 | jasonb | You probably shouldn't call that "open source" because that term is very clearly defined.. and this product doesn't qualify. |
| 22:35.09 | jasonb | haha |
| 22:35.36 | yassine | lol |
| 22:35.51 | yassine | should be tasty :) |
| 22:35.57 | yassine | but never tried it |
| 22:36.15 | jasonb | Welp, I have to go for a bit.. |
| 22:36.25 | jasonb | (on that happy note :) |
| 22:36.52 | yassine | did you ever tried cochlea ? |
| 22:37.05 | jasonb | sounds like something you cram into your ear.. |
| 22:37.11 | yassine | lol |
| 22:37.12 | jasonb | No, actually, I've never heard of that. |
| 22:37.22 | yassine | no i mean snail |
| 22:37.35 | jasonb | oh. Nope, never really wanted to try it. :) |
| 22:37.43 | yassine | lol i did in france |
| 22:37.54 | jasonb | They probably cook it really good. :) |
| 22:38.06 | yassine | wow i did not want at the begininng |
| 22:38.12 | jasonb | heh |
| 22:38.13 | yassine | but after triying it |
| 22:38.19 | yassine | i could not stop |
| 22:38.20 | yassine | :) |
| 22:38.26 | jasonb | Probably tender. |
| 22:38.46 | yassine | yes and since they put much spice on it its tasting really cool |
| 22:39.15 | yassine | taste --> cool ?? taste good i mean :) |
| 22:39.16 | jasonb | Maybe I should try them some day. |
| 22:39.33 | jasonb | You can say "tasted really cool".. that's fine. :) |
| 22:39.42 | yassine | okay |
| 22:39.50 | jasonb | Anyway, bbiab. |
| 22:39.56 | yassine | okay cu later |
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| 23:07.49 | algebra | yuhuu running over tomcat 5.5.17 :D |
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| 23:47.49 | snakeman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.01 | snakeman | I'm using Jconsole to monitor java heap usage |
| 23:48.16 | snakeman | when it runns normally, the app hovers around 20-25MB |
| 23:48.31 | snakeman | I don't know what this "periodic operation" is |
| 23:49.01 | snakeman | Jun 5, 2006 4:33:46 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase$ContainerBackgroundProcessor pro |
| 23:49.01 | snakeman | cessChildren |
| 23:49.05 | snakeman | that's all it says |
| 23:49.08 | snakeman | any ideas? |
| 23:55.56 | linuxfreck | does it say which exception occurred in the logs? |