| 00:04.09 | sr__ | yes it works |
| 00:04.22 | sr__ | thx |
| 00:04.36 | yassine | glad to help |
| 00:04.47 | yassine | have fun with the cat ;) |
| 00:04.56 | sr__ | hehe thx |
| 00:05.09 | sr__ | very much ! |
| 00:05.35 | yassine | your welcome |
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| 01:09.37 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, where does Tomcat prints out errors? I'm checking $CATALINA_HOME/logs/Catalina.out but nothing |
| 01:09.48 | Maquiavelo | Tomcat is crashing and there for no reason at all |
| 01:14.27 | yassine | Magistus, had an older instance on your system ? |
| 01:15.03 | yassine | Maquiavelo, had an older instance on your system ? |
| 01:28.18 | Maquiavelo | yes |
| 01:28.27 | Maquiavelo | You mean another tomcat? yea, but it keeps dying |
| 01:31.17 | Maquiavelo | there is nothing in catalina.out remotely close to 'dying' or something |
| 01:31.21 | Maquiavelo | or error, warning or whatever |
| 01:31.28 | Maquiavelo | Jun 10, 2006 8:52:54 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log |
| 01:31.35 | Maquiavelo | INFO: HTMLManager: list: Listing contexts for virtual host 'xxxxxxx.com' |
| 01:31.39 | Maquiavelo | that's it |
| 01:32.42 | yassine | re |
| 01:33.22 | yassine | Maquiavelo, do you have any predefined $CATALINE_HOME env var ? |
| 01:33.31 | Maquiavelo | Let me check |
| 01:33.39 | Maquiavelo | nope |
| 01:33.52 | yassine | are you on linux ? |
| 01:35.04 | Maquiavelo | Yes |
| 01:35.21 | yassine | please: export | grep CATALINA |
| 01:35.41 | Maquiavelo | nothing |
| 01:36.19 | yassine | so set it export CATALINA_HOME=/path/to/your/install |
| 01:36.23 | yassine | and re reun tomcat |
| 01:36.31 | yassine | and restart tomcat |
| 01:36.34 | Maquiavelo | Doing it right now |
| 01:36.39 | yassine | oki |
| 01:37.37 | Maquiavelo | Ok, it's up, and I'm doing a tail -f catalina.out |
| 01:37.49 | yassine | okay |
| 01:37.59 | yassine | got any logs ? |
| 01:38.39 | Maquiavelo | up until here |
| 01:38.40 | Maquiavelo | Jun 10, 2006 9:33:59 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start |
| 01:38.40 | Maquiavelo | INFO: Server startup in 3131 ms |
| 01:38.54 | Maquiavelo | still up and running, it usually comes down in a bit |
| 01:38.57 | yassine | can you access the server then ? |
| 01:39.18 | yassine | i mean from the browser |
| 01:39.25 | Maquiavelo | right now yes, but it usually dies after 5 minutes or so |
| 01:40.47 | yassine | okay we have time :) |
| 01:40.51 | yassine | we will wait and see |
| 01:40.52 | Maquiavelo | :) |
| 01:40.54 | Maquiavelo | Thanks |
| 01:40.59 | yassine | your welcome |
| 01:41.04 | Maquiavelo | I'm reloading the website and stuff, see if it comes down or something |
| 01:41.40 | yassine | yeah go ahead |
| 01:43.51 | Maquiavelo | still up |
| 01:43.52 | Maquiavelo | grr |
| 01:44.32 | yassine | :) |
| 01:44.32 | Maquiavelo | It's like, when a parent calls you and say "I'm pressing the button and it's not working..." and when you travel 2 hours to their place to check it out, and you press the button... it works. |
| 01:44.32 | yassine | normally you should be happy for that |
| 01:44.58 | yassine | no problem just leave it up im here for a while and we can see what the logs says |
| 01:46.54 | Maquiavelo | :) |
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| 02:09.53 | Maquiavelo | mierda |
| 02:10.03 | Maquiavelo | la mezquita de la mecca en arabia saudita se ve amaizing en google earth |
| 02:10.15 | yassine | ? |
| 02:10.20 | Maquiavelo | ooops wrong channel |
| 02:10.25 | yassine | can you speak english |
| 02:10.34 | Maquiavelo | I'm sorry I thought I was in another channel |
| 02:10.48 | yassine | whats up with sa ? |
| 02:11.05 | Maquiavelo | just saying the mozque in mecca looks awesome in google earth |
| 02:11.10 | Maquiavelo | and huge |
| 02:11.31 | Maquiavelo | I mean, seriously, HUGE |
| 02:11.37 | yassine | ahh um runung on linux so i can not see it |
| 02:11.47 | Maquiavelo | I think you can through maps.google.com |
| 02:12.02 | yassine | let me try that |
| 02:12.52 | Maquiavelo | It's the huge white square |
| 02:13.35 | yassine | yeah its not clear :) |
| 02:13.39 | Maquiavelo | :( |
| 02:14.24 | Maquiavelo | I like to check out important stuff on google earth, eiffel tower, grand canyon, angel falls, the amazon, the great wall, etc |
| 02:15.54 | yassine | your italien right |
| 02:16.07 | Maquiavelo | Nope |
| 02:16.12 | Maquiavelo | south american |
| 02:16.23 | yassine | ahh okay so that was spanish ? |
| 02:16.26 | Maquiavelo | yup |
| 02:16.45 | yassine | hablo espanöla ? |
| 02:16.49 | Maquiavelo | Si |
| 02:16.58 | yassine | yo hable espnöla uno puko |
| 02:17.07 | yassine | yo hablo espnöla uno puko |
| 02:17.16 | Maquiavelo | poco :P |
| 02:17.21 | yassine | si |
| 02:19.16 | Maquiavelo | woah, the pyramids |
| 02:56.24 | yassine | good night all |
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| 04:22.40 | Maquiavelo | yessine ! |
| 04:22.43 | Maquiavelo | it happened again |
| 04:50.43 | odin_ | I like looking at airports from google earth, dont know why I have a fettish for that |
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| 04:55.03 | Maquiavelo | How do you check your free virtual memory in linux? |
| 04:55.17 | odin_ | cat /proc/meminfo ? |
| 04:55.37 | Maquiavelo | mhmh it's lying to me |
| 04:55.52 | Maquiavelo | it says there is a bunch, but this make command complaints it ran out of virtual memory heh |
| 04:56.17 | odin_ | euh ? when you run something, it runs out and errors ? |
| 04:56.26 | Maquiavelo | ya |
| 04:56.36 | odin_ | well thats because you are over committed |
| 04:56.41 | Maquiavelo | eh |
| 04:57.22 | odin_ | cat /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio ? |
| 04:57.54 | odin_ | the kernel will allow the applications to request say 3Gb in total memory even when it only has 1Gb installed and 1Gb swapp |
| 04:57.59 | odin_ | this is called over commit |
| 04:58.10 | Maquiavelo | returns 50 |
| 04:58.19 | Maquiavelo | well, I just restarted it |
| 04:58.23 | odin_ | this is okay, because providing the application does not page fault in the other 1Gb there is no problem |
| 04:58.25 | Maquiavelo | so I could compile the logfile |
| 04:58.35 | Maquiavelo | err the log thingie |
| 04:58.37 | Maquiavelo | log4 |
| 04:58.57 | odin_ | how much mem have you got ? 16Mb ? |
| 04:59.06 | Maquiavelo | 128 |
| 04:59.11 | Maquiavelo | It's a VPS server |
| 04:59.25 | odin_ | and swap space ? |
| 05:00.04 | Maquiavelo | SwapTotal? |
| 05:00.18 | odin_ | yup and swap used from before ? |
| 05:00.20 | Maquiavelo | 0, heh, I have this tho |
| 05:00.21 | Maquiavelo | MemTotal: 262144 kB |
| 05:00.22 | Maquiavelo | MemFree: 155600 kB |
| 05:00.27 | Maquiavelo | SwapTotal: 0 kB |
| 05:00.28 | Maquiavelo | SwapFree: 0 kB |
| 05:00.30 | Maquiavelo | It's a VPS |
| 05:00.58 | odin_ | well that will be why, if you have not got any swap your server has go not where to run to when you preasure the VM |
| 05:01.28 | odin_ | what is VPA server, a shared server ? having no swap make sense, since there it would confusume non-stop IO are you all compete for memory |
| 05:01.28 | Maquiavelo | is there anyway to make it run... more memory efficient? I'm not running a huge application |
| 05:01.30 | Maquiavelo | Just a small app |
| 05:01.36 | Maquiavelo | VPS Server is a virtualized server |
| 05:01.42 | Maquiavelo | Something like vmware |
| 05:01.57 | Maquiavelo | There is a host, and multiple child servers |
| 05:02.01 | Maquiavelo | each one independent of the other |
| 05:02.09 | odin_ | you should look to keeping your working set down to less than 50%, which probably means after bootup you want only 25% in use |
| 05:02.38 | Maquiavelo | I guess I'll just pick up a php book and go at it |
| 05:02.39 | Maquiavelo | lol |
| 05:02.39 | odin_ | if you have 256Mb RAM than you want after bootup only 64Mb in use |
| 05:02.50 | Maquiavelo | Well, that's tough |
| 05:02.59 | Maquiavelo | I got apache, mysql and postfix/courier |
| 05:03.12 | Maquiavelo | plus proftpd |
| 05:03.19 | odin_ | then after a bit of web serving you dont want it above 192Mb |
| 05:03.26 | Maquiavelo | sshd and other services =/ |
| 05:03.29 | odin_ | proftpd should be nothing |
| 05:03.57 | odin_ | mysql you need to setup a thread limit maybe of only 3 threads and tunes the my.cnf mem usage for a tiny system setup |
| 05:04.11 | Maquiavelo | yea |
| 05:04.12 | odin_ | apache 2.2 ? |
| 05:04.39 | Maquiavelo | yup |
| 05:04.51 | odin_ | mpm=worker ? |
| 05:05.15 | Maquiavelo | yup |
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| 12:33.50 | brentwood-ca | hi |
| 12:34.05 | brentwood-ca | where can I find a decent guide to configuring tomcat 5.5 and apache 2? |
| 12:34.46 | yassine | morning guys |
| 12:35.27 | yassine | brentwood-ca, what do you mean by configuring ? want to connect both servers ? |
| 12:37.49 | brentwood-ca | yeah |
| 12:37.52 | brentwood-ca | I have debian |
| 12:37.59 | brentwood-ca | but i fear its packages are outa date |
| 12:38.04 | brentwood-ca | heh |
| 12:38.08 | yassine | how do you plan doing that ? |
| 12:38.32 | yassine | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.06 | harpoon | mmh? |
| 12:39.34 | harpoon | there is a tomcat package in Debian?!? |
| 12:39.43 | yassine | harpoon, yes |
| 12:40.04 | brentwood-ca | some part of my admin instict says |
| 12:40.09 | brentwood-ca | install tomcat by itself |
| 12:40.14 | brentwood-ca | install sun java by istself |
| 12:40.19 | brentwood-ca | install apache by itself |
| 12:40.22 | brentwood-ca | learn to config em |
| 12:40.22 | yassine | but i would suggest downloading a new package from apache.org |
| 12:40.28 | brentwood-ca | dotn turst the distro |
| 12:40.38 | brentwood-ca | trusting the distro sucks |
| 12:40.46 | brentwood-ca | so its almsot as if |
| 12:40.51 | brentwood-ca | liux is good base |
| 12:41.00 | brentwood-ca | then build from the projects themselfves from there |
| 12:41.09 | brentwood-ca | or your asking for pain |
| 12:41.17 | yassine | exact :) |
| 12:41.40 | brentwood-ca | <----knows from bitter exp that redhat is a bunch of bastards |
| 12:41.57 | brentwood-ca | so |
| 12:42.09 | brentwood-ca | where does little ole me go to try and connect these things? |
| 12:43.26 | yassine | so you have 2 way connecting both servers the one stated above see what you can find in google and ill be here to help for any surprises |
| 12:44.00 | yassine | i need to make my coffe now and ill stay just close to the box when you having questions juts shoot |
| 12:44.54 | brentwood-ca | its 530am |
| 12:44.58 | brentwood-ca | im going bed |
| 12:45.04 | yassine | ohh |
| 12:45.06 | brentwood-ca | thanks for offering ill be abck tomorw |
| 12:45.08 | brentwood-ca | er today |
| 12:45.19 | yassine | its the time i went to bed yesterday too :) |
| 12:45.48 | yassine | so you will be like 1430 out of your bed :) |
| 12:46.02 | yassine | good sleep since its too late for a good night now :) |
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| 23:19.16 | yassine | re |
| 23:23.39 | jasonb | hi yassine. |
| 23:24.26 | yassine | hi jasonb how is everyting ? |
| 23:31.57 | jasonb | Things are fine. Lots and lots and lots of interruptions in the last month though. |
| 23:32.30 | yassine | great so you are no longer in debuging mode :) |
| 23:33.16 | jasonb | Yeah, I'm basically done. |
| 23:33.31 | yassine | great |
| 23:33.43 | jasonb | I'm just waiting for my strength to return to normal now. Almost there. |
| 23:34.03 | yassine | how was your week end ? |
| 23:41.19 | jasonb | It was okay. |
| 23:41.34 | jasonb | Got some things done even though I feel kind of weak still. |
| 23:42.03 | yassine | i was invited to a bbq party yesterday :) |
| 23:42.13 | jasonb | I moved my main server machine to a different room of the house, so I had to re-wire my DSL to the new room, plus I hand-wired ethernet from there to another room, which also needed to be redone. |
| 23:43.02 | yassine | i have my main server in the UG :) |
| 23:43.14 | jasonb | UG? |
| 23:43.22 | yassine | underground |
| 23:43.41 | yassine | stack ? |
| 23:43.45 | yassine | wait let me see :) |
| 23:43.56 | jasonb | Basement? |
| 23:45.16 | yassine | yes |
| 23:45.17 | yassine | :) |
| 23:45.21 | yassine | just found it |
| 23:45.35 | yassine | im leaving in the last floor |
| 23:45.41 | yassine | im living in the last floor |
| 23:46.02 | jasonb | last == bottom? |
| 23:46.07 | yassine | yes |
| 23:46.15 | jasonb | Usually, we say "ground floor" |
| 23:46.25 | jasonb | or, "bottom floor" |
| 23:46.40 | yassine | ground floor |
| 23:46.46 | yassine | ahh :) |
| 23:46.52 | jasonb | one floor below the ground floor = "basement". |
| 23:47.04 | yassine | exact and there i have my main server |
| 23:47.12 | jasonb | cool. |
| 23:47.35 | yassine | i was trying to get my wireless access point to work but no chance :s |
| 23:48.07 | jasonb | Sometimes it's very tough to get wireless to work. |
| 23:48.26 | yassine | its the enginthat behave in a strange way |
| 23:48.37 | yassine | i wanted to reset it |
| 23:48.42 | yassine | but that did not work |
| 23:48.50 | yassine | and i wanted to reinstall its firmware |
| 23:49.02 | yassine | but that did not work |
| 23:49.08 | jasonb | Sometimes that will fix all sorts of things. |
| 23:49.19 | yassine | dell is using hypertrm and crosover cable for that |
| 23:49.45 | yassine | and a rs232 calbe too |
| 23:50.28 | yassine | i have bought everthing i need friday i was thiking the week end i will change to wireless |
| 23:50.33 | yassine | but no chance :) |