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| 01:23.12 | youngdev | Is this the right place to ask a jsp programming question? |
| 01:23.34 | youngdev | I am new to jsps and I have some questions |
| 01:30.25 | yassine | youngdev, just ask your question ;) |
| 01:30.40 | yassine | dont mind to ask if you can ask :) |
| 01:31.01 | youngdev | ok |
| 01:34.22 | youngdev | I finally got tomcat properly configured and I am trying to access my postgres database. and I keep getting a "Driver not found: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: " on the following statement: Class.forName("org.postgresql.Driver"); |
| 01:35.02 | youngdev | I assume this means that the postgres driver is not part of the default install of tomcat. |
| 01:36.33 | youngdev | how is the postgres driver usually installed? |
| 01:42.15 | swente | youngdev: there's 2 ways: for the entire server [needed e.g. for use as datasource], or for single webapps. |
| 01:42.39 | swente | youngdev: server-wide: place the .jar in $TOMCAT/common?/lib (i think it's common-lib, but it might be 'shared', too). single webapps might bring it in their WEB-INF/lib |
| 01:42.52 | youngdev | alright |
| 01:43.00 | youngdev | that sounds great |
| 01:43.50 | youngdev | now the next question: Where am I supposed to get that driver |
| 01:44.01 | swente | http://www.postgresql.org |
| 01:44.18 | youngdev | hmmm |
| 01:44.21 | swente | it's hidden somewhere there :) |
| 01:44.25 | youngdev | ok |
| 01:44.27 | youngdev | cool |
| 01:44.57 | swente | youngdev: hidden .. to be precise: http://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html |
| 01:56.02 | yassine | okay you cat folks im tiered and im going to sleep now |
| 01:56.11 | yassine | mau mau good night all |
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| 02:28.42 | youngdev | does anyone have any experience with the postgres jdbc driver on gentoo? |
| 02:33.08 | youngdev | I emerged the jdbc3-postgresql and symlinked /usr/share/tomcat-5.5/server/lib/jdbc3-postgresql.jar to /usr/share/jdbc3-postgresql/lib/jdbc3-postgres.jar and restarted tomcat |
| 02:33.36 | youngdev | I am still getting a class not found for org.postgres.Driver. Any Ideas |
| 02:34.43 | youngdev | correction: I am using the following Class instansiation: Class.forName("org.postgresql.Driver"); |
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| 02:59.53 | swente | youngdev: you need the jar in one of tomcat's own dirs [common/lib iirc.]. |
| 03:18.58 | youngdev | thanks I was putting it in the wrong dir (doh!!!) |
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| 05:49.33 | a4akb | jasonb: Hi. |
| 05:50.02 | youngdev | hi jason |
| 05:55.45 | jasonb | Hi guys. |
| 05:55.59 | jasonb | How's it going? |
| 05:56.05 | youngdev | great |
| 05:56.08 | lyken | you know you're a geek if this makes you laugh |
| 05:56.10 | lyken | http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~jamie/leet-haxor.jpg |
| 05:56.12 | youngdev | thanks for your hep |
| 05:57.43 | jasonb | lyken: Heh!! I have one of those and it never occurred to me to write that on the handle. :) |
| 05:58.04 | lyken | i did it in our workshop a few hours ago |
| 05:58.09 | lyken | im still chuckling :) |
| 05:58.18 | jasonb | heh.. that's a good one. |
| 05:58.26 | youngdev | you need a better hack saw |
| 05:58.30 | lyken | lol |
| 05:58.33 | jasonb | Now you just need some security to cut with it. :) |
| 05:58.39 | youngdev | dewalt makes a killer hack saw |
| 05:58.39 | lyken | its just for cutting locks of university equipment |
| 05:58.44 | jasonb | heh |
| 05:59.30 | youngdev | altho I am continually amazed with what a dremel can do |
| 05:59.37 | lyken | lol yer |
| 05:59.50 | lyken | 'hmm what can i use to cut this, dremel it is' |
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| 06:09.05 | lacostej | <offtopic> anyone knows if there's a channel for jakarta commons projects? </offtopic> |
| 06:17.33 | jasonb | lacostej: I don't know of one. |
| 06:17.50 | jasonb | lacostej: You might want to check to see if there's a "jakarta" channel. |
| 06:25.58 | lacostej | I tried #jakarta, #commons, #jakarta-commons, so there doesn't seem to be one... Trying in fact to get some get feedback on DBCP-175. Maybe some tomcat users might want to look at it... |
| 06:26.17 | lyken | lacostej: have you tried the mailing lists ? |
| 06:34.45 | lacostej | lyken: yep ! sent a mail 3 days ago :) Maybe have to be a little bit more patient! |
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| 08:59.58 | roude | is there a way to bind the tomcat to an specifig source-interface, if he connects to for example an db or so |
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| 09:28.26 | lacoste1 | BTW, the DBCP issue (DBCP-175) I mentionned earlier is related to Tomcat issue is #37577. Maybe someone wants to have a look at that one. |
| 10:38.24 | lyken | wb, yer re mailing list that happens sometimes |
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| 10:43.42 | ashlyyy | hi |
| 10:43.50 | ashlyyy | can anybody help me? |
| 10:43.59 | ashlyyy | can i use php with tomcat? |
| 10:44.22 | ashlyyy | i got mysql server and wnat to display it over intranet or internet |
| 10:45.43 | lyken | dont see why you would try and do that |
| 10:45.46 | lyken | when apache does it great |
| 10:46.13 | ashlyyy | cause my apache2.2 cannot |
| 10:46.24 | lyken | err, what? |
| 10:46.30 | lyken | my apache 2.2.2 is running php5 just fine.. |
| 10:46.44 | ashlyyy | yeah but u r using unix? |
| 10:47.05 | ashlyyy | i got xp and after i tried every thing i gave up |
| 10:47.14 | ashlyyy | i receive that silly windows message |
| 10:47.15 | ashlyyy | The Apache service named reported the following error: |
| 10:47.15 | ashlyyy | >>> httpd.exe: Syntax error on line 115 of C:/apache/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load C:/apache/modules/php5apache2.dll into server: The specified module could not be found. . |
| 10:47.19 | ashlyyy | but it is there |
| 10:47.32 | lyken | well um, youc an get installers for all that |
| 10:48.00 | lyken | we are running php5 on windows XP here at home |
| 10:48.10 | ashlyyy | yup |
| 10:48.16 | ashlyyy | and it is fine huh? |
| 10:48.54 | ashlyyy | did u use the installer in php.net? |
| 10:51.22 | lyken | yup |
| 10:51.39 | ashlyyy | hmm ok |
| 10:51.42 | ashlyyy | i ll try it |
| 10:52.17 | ashlyyy | but it doesnt say taht it supports apache2.2 |
| 10:52.59 | lyken | wot deos it say it supports? |
| 10:53.00 | lyken | 2.1? |
| 10:53.28 | ashlyyy | CGI only, packaged as Windows installer to install and configure PHP, and automatically configure IIS, PWS and Xitami, with manual configuration for other servers. No external extensions included, get them from the zip and PECL downloads above, and install manually |
| 10:54.46 | harpoon | same procedure as every year |
| 10:57.00 | ashlyyy | shall i use that? |
| 10:58.06 | harpoon | in each year we have people wants to use php with tomcat? |
| 10:58.08 | harpoon | why? |
| 10:59.32 | ashlyyy | hmm my answer is i am a newbie since i always used asp and access |
| 10:59.52 | ashlyyy | but i saw that mysql works very fine with |
| 10:59.54 | ashlyyy | tomcat |
| 10:59.58 | ashlyyy | thats why |
| 11:00.06 | ashlyyy | i dunt have mcuh information |
| 11:00.13 | harpoon | ashlyyy: switching to tomcat was the first good idea |
| 11:00.14 | ashlyyy | why not tomcat?? |
| 11:00.32 | ashlyyy | oh thnx |
| 11:00.34 | harpoon | next step would be replacing php by jsp :-) |
| 11:00.44 | ashlyyy | hmm |
| 11:00.48 | ashlyyy | jsp or php |
| 11:00.54 | ashlyyy | it is a very hard question for me |
| 11:01.41 | harpoon | well, if using jsp you do not have any problems to integrate php |
| 11:01.42 | harpoon | :-) |
| 11:02.05 | ashlyyy | hmm |
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| 11:02.07 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:02.12 | nilesh | hii yassine |
| 11:02.21 | nilesh | whats up?? |
| 11:02.37 | yassine | hi nilesh im fine thanks |
| 11:02.46 | yassine | i need some coffee here :) |
| 11:02.59 | nilesh | i have just have tea |
| 11:03.02 | harpoon | me too. |
| 11:03.08 | nilesh | do u like tea?? |
| 11:03.13 | harpoon | the cup is quite empty |
| 11:03.21 | yassine | ohh yeah too with milk |
| 11:03.49 | nilesh | harpoon, come here lets have one more cup |
| 11:03.57 | ashlyyy | how will i set it up? |
| 11:04.15 | harpoon | ashlyyy: setting up what? |
| 11:04.29 | harpoon | nilesh: where is "here"? |
| 11:05.03 | yassine | in channel :) |
| 11:05.13 | ashlyyy | jsp with tomcat? |
| 11:05.51 | nilesh | harpoon, in india |
| 11:06.11 | harpoon | ashlyyy: writing the jsps or using one of those fine wysiwyg-editors |
| 11:06.18 | harpoon | and just deploy :-) |
| 11:06.30 | ashlyyy | :) |
| 11:06.54 | harpoon | nilesh: mmh.. long long way from germany to india :-) |
| 11:07.22 | yassine | harpoon: so we can drink tea here :) |
| 11:08.08 | nilesh | harpoon, yassine have a taste indian tea if it is available in your countries |
| 11:08.08 | harpoon | ashlyyy: you will find the description of the folder structure of a webapplication in the tomcat manual |
| 11:08.29 | nilesh | it will be good experience for you |
| 11:08.37 | harpoon | nilesh: it is. but i prefer some english blends |
| 11:08.54 | ashlyyy | ok hwo about connecting mysql with jsp? |
| 11:08.58 | nilesh | ohh choice is yours :) |
| 11:09.28 | yassine | ashlyyy: do you know DB API in php ? |
| 11:09.57 | ashlyyy | non |
| 11:10.12 | lyken | yassine: s/mysql/pg_/ |
| 11:10.13 | lyken | hehe |
| 11:10.18 | yassine | its quite similar you have differnt ways accessing your Database (MySQL,Postgres...) |
| 11:10.59 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:11.00 | yassine | you only need the driver for your DB engine |
| 11:11.27 | yassine | in your case that would be com.mysql.jdbc.Driver |
| 11:11.34 | ashlyyy | any sources on internet to help me? |
| 11:11.43 | yassine | a lot of sources :) |
| 11:11.52 | yassine | the first one would be google :) |
| 11:11.58 | lyken | you dont ever revference the driver like that |
| 11:12.10 | harpoon | lyken: he is a beginner. let him grow, before giving him a database |
| 11:12.48 | ashlyyy | yup but the aim is the database |
| 11:12.48 | harpoon | let him get some practice with his cardbox |
| 11:13.08 | lyken | hehe |
| 11:13.57 | ashlyyy | my tomcat server works fine |
| 11:14.09 | ashlyyy | it is running :) apache is not :( |
| 11:14.18 | ashlyyy | and i got mysql database |
| 11:14.30 | ashlyyy | where should i start? |
| 11:15.41 | harpoon | ashlyyy: buying the book "Java Server Pages" o'reilly & associates |
| 11:15.43 | harpoon | :-) |
| 11:16.17 | ashlyyy | thats a big step ok |
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| 11:17.30 | harpoon | or something similar |
| 11:18.04 | harpoon | but without understanding the technology it is quite... difficult to do anything |
| 11:18.30 | ashlyyy | taht s why i was asking where to start |
| 11:20.23 | harpoon | ashlyyy: learning some java |
| 11:20.35 | ashlyyy | shall i focus on apache or tomcat? |
| 11:20.59 | harpoon | mmh |
| 11:21.02 | harpoon | it's on you |
| 11:21.22 | harpoon | do you want to really work with java or not |
| 11:21.28 | ashlyyy | i do |
| 11:21.29 | Kenneth | ashlyyy: if you're planning on learning java using web drop apache for now |
| 11:21.54 | ashlyyy | ok got it |
| 11:22.03 | ashlyyy | any book refernace u suggest? |
| 11:22.42 | yassine | thinking in java |
| 11:22.58 | ashlyyy | for java i visited suns page there are lots of type of it |
| 11:23.11 | ashlyyy | confused to use which one |
| 11:23.21 | yassine | http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/ |
| 11:23.30 | yassine | its for free |
| 11:24.30 | ashlyyy | thinking in java 3rd edition? |
| 11:24.36 | harpoon | having some looks in the Java SE tutorial might be helpfull too |
| 11:25.01 | ashlyyy | which file should i d/l and set up to use java? |
| 11:25.02 | Kenneth | yup.. mabe write some standalone apps first to learn you the language |
| 11:25.04 | ashlyyy | se? |
| 11:25.19 | Kenneth | standard edition |
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| 11:27.54 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:28.06 | ashlyyy | i ll d/l se from suns page |
| 11:29.52 | ashlyyy | i found j2se5.0 |
| 11:29.53 | ashlyyy | ok? |
| 11:31.30 | ashlyyy | http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp |
| 11:31.35 | ashlyyy | can u checkthis page* |
| 11:31.50 | ashlyyy | lol |
| 11:31.58 | ashlyyy | confusing |
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| 11:34.19 | ashlyyy | which one do u believe shall i d/l |
| 11:34.49 | harpoon | ashlyyy: that's the development kit |
| 11:35.03 | ashlyyy | ?= |
| 11:35.17 | harpoon | libraries and compiler |
| 11:35.35 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:35.58 | ashlyyy | in order to use java i ll get se |
| 11:35.59 | ashlyyy | but from where? |
| 11:36.20 | harpoon | http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html |
| 11:36.31 | harpoon | that is what you need |
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| 11:36.41 | harpoon | from there |
| 11:37.01 | harpoon | but i thing you have already installed it |
| 11:37.08 | harpoon | tomcat need it o run :-) |
| 11:37.41 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:37.57 | harpoon | s/o/to/ |
| 11:38.33 | ashlyyy | lol |
| 11:38.35 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:40.00 | ashlyyy | ok |
| 11:40.11 | ashlyyy | so i got tomcat 5.5 |
| 11:40.33 | ashlyyy | http://localhost:8080/ |
| 11:40.36 | ashlyyy | works |
| 11:40.47 | ashlyyy | so tomcat works fine |
| 11:41.12 | ashlyyy | i ll check the book that yassine told |
| 11:41.21 | ashlyyy | and the page that u told me |
| 11:41.50 | ashlyyy | and after i understand the philosopy |
| 11:42.07 | ashlyyy | i think that i ll ifnd a way to connect mysql to tomcat |
| 11:43.30 | harpoon | ashlyyy: have a look on jdbc |
| 11:43.58 | harpoon | then you have a way to connect nearly any database engine :-) |
| 11:44.03 | ashlyyy | jdbc? |
| 11:44.04 | yassine | ashlyyy, i know you want to access the db as fast as possible but its really worth making some reading about the tools you use before using them, so you can use them effeciently and will enjoy that 100% |
| 11:44.54 | harpoon | you will find it the books :-) |
| 11:45.10 | ashlyyy | i really appreciate ur allhelp |
| 11:46.14 | harpoon | and i'm looking forward on a new site to hack |
| 11:46.16 | harpoon | :-) |
| 11:53.20 | ashlyyy | bye for now .. i llcheck the books |
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| 12:49.07 | roude | is there a way to bind the tomcat to an specifig source-interface, if it connects to an db or so. i have more ip aliases and want to use some specific |
| 12:50.12 | swente | roude: http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/connectors.html#bind |
| 12:50.49 | lyken | http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/connectors.html#bind ,- |
| 12:50.50 | lyken | lol |
| 12:50.55 | lyken | damn beaten! |
| 12:51.51 | swente | :) |
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| 13:42.29 | harpoon | other people would just write "rtfm" |
| 13:42.32 | harpoon | :-) |
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| 14:21.04 | danielon | hello |
| 14:21.16 | danielon | i'am using tomcat5 |
| 14:21.40 | danielon | i'am developing with other programmers |
| 14:22.01 | danielon | and i want to disable the undeploy option of the manager |
| 14:22.32 | danielon | it give me a headache |
| 14:22.47 | danielon | because one of them remove the application |
| 14:23.08 | danielon | when he want to resload them |
| 14:23.42 | danielon | anywhone can help |
| 14:26.02 | lyken | hmmz |
| 14:26.09 | lyken | your not the first |
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| 14:27.58 | DaDave | hi all |
| 14:28.05 | DaDave | does anyone know a ServletFilter that rewrites URLs (like in <a href...>) to use jsession id? |
| 14:28.32 | yassine | securityfilter maybe |
| 14:29.53 | DaDave | which package or website to get? |
| 14:30.29 | DaDave | yassine: is it http://securityfilter.sourceforge.net/? |
| 14:33.51 | yassine | yes |
| 14:34.13 | DaDave | okay, i'll try that. |
| 14:34.31 | yassine | DaDave, im not that sure its been a while that i used it |
| 14:37.52 | DaDave | yeah. i am actually a bit confused why there is no url-rewrite filter avilable (at least i have not found any). there must be more users then me that have the problem of needing support sessions wihout cookies.. |
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| 14:53.57 | randrew | DaDave: people may also need rewrite ability to make their wordpress uris pretty. hehehe : ) |
| 14:54.52 | DaDave | yeah |
| 14:55.09 | DaDave | i am still wondering why noone has written and published such a filter yet. |
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| 14:59.08 | harpoon | DaDave: maybe because they have places URL-rewriting in the servlet JSR |
| 15:08.30 | jasonb | And because browsers do tend to support cookies nowadays. :) |
| 15:12.33 | swente | jasonb: mind the fundamentalists considering cookies evil-by-design.:) |
| 15:15.01 | jasonb | Oh yeah, I forgot. Cookies are evil. Stay away from Cookie Monster! |
| 15:15.06 | swente | yo! |
| 15:22.21 | lyken | lol |
| 15:22.26 | lyken | its goingopen source |
| 15:22.30 | lyken | can only get better ! |
| 15:22.52 | swente | uuh that doesn't help anymore. it's too late, and java is doomed. |
| 15:23.15 | swente | as well as sun and microsoft. (and ibm). |
| 15:30.40 | harpoon | lyken: not all browsers supporting cookies |
| 15:30.47 | harpoon | i use links :-) |
| 15:31.03 | swente | but links supports them, doesn't it? |
| 15:33.31 | swente | but (besides being silly) .. iirc tomcat autodetects acceptance of cookies and uses url-passed-sessionids when disabled (correct 'creation' of URLs from jsps/servlets presumed) |
| 15:34.55 | harpoon | swente: yes. but you have to adeppt your JSP/servlets when linking between them |
| 15:35.11 | swente | mmh obviously. yes |
| 15:35.35 | swente | but i guess that belongs to "proper design of .." |
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| 15:44.37 | Hellaenergy | ibot: Tomcat Probe is at http://www.lambdaprobe.org |
| 15:44.39 | ibot | okay, Hellaenergy |
| 15:45.10 | Hellaenergy | ibot Lambda Probe is at http://www.lambdaprobe.org |
| 15:45.11 | ibot | okay, Hellaenergy |
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| 15:58.41 | kunta | hello |
| 15:59.01 | Hellaenergy | hi |
| 15:59.38 | kunta | i ve got some problem on tomcat 5 |
| 16:00.17 | kunta | tomcat tell me he couldn't deploy application with context {0} |
| 16:00.50 | kunta | someone can help me |
| 16:01.24 | Hellaenergy | What do the logs say? |
| 16:01.44 | Hellaenergy | And what application is it trying to deploy? |
| 16:01.53 | Hellaenergy | What exactly are you doing? |
| 16:01.57 | kunta | trying to deploy xwiki |
| 16:02.05 | Hellaenergy | What have you done? |
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| 16:04.06 | Hellaenergy | Are you using this? http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/Install+Instructions |
| 16:04.22 | kunta | i've got this 2006-06-20 12:03:06 StandardContext[/manager]HTMLManager: start: Starting web application at '/xwiki' |
| 16:04.44 | Hellaenergy | Did you follow the instructions at that page? |
| 16:04.55 | Hellaenergy | What OS and What version of Tomcat and MySQL? |
| 16:04.59 | kunta | yes |
| 16:06.17 | kunta | linux mandriva 2006 |
| 16:06.22 | kunta | tomcat 5.0 |
| 16:06.36 | Hellaenergy | There are reports of incompatibility with MySQL 4.1.12 and later versions. Everything works fine with MySQL 4.1.11 |
| 16:07.24 | kunta | INFO: Installation d'une application pour le chemin de contexte /xwiki depuis l'URL file:/usr/share/tomcat5/webapps/xwiki |
| 16:07.24 | kunta | 19-jun-06 2:40:07 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start() |
| 16:07.24 | kunta | SEVERE: Error in dependencyCheck |
| 16:07.24 | kunta | 19-jun-06 2:40:08 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start() |
| 16:07.24 | kunta | SEVERE: Error getConfigured |
| 16:07.27 | kunta | 19-jun-06 2:40:08 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start() |
| 16:07.28 | kunta | SEVERE: Erreur de démarrage du contexte suite aux erreurs précédentes |
| 16:07.30 | kunta | 19-jun-06 2:40:08 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start() |
| 16:07.32 | kunta | SEVERE: Exception lors du nettoyage après que le démarrage ait échoué |
| 16:09.10 | kunta | tomcat 5.0.30 |
| 16:09.49 | kunta | and mysql 4.1.12 |
| 16:10.05 | kunta | maybe it's the incompatibility |
| 16:10.17 | harpoon | kunta: sorry, but my french is.. |
| 16:10.30 | harpoon | not very well :-) |
| 16:14.46 | kunta | my big problem is error in dependency check |
| 16:15.24 | Hellaenergy | Did you get this note?: There are reports of incompatibility with MySQL 4.1.12 and later versions. Everything works fine with MySQL 4.1.11 |
| 16:16.23 | kunta | i'll try to go back to mysql 4.1.11 |
| 16:17.57 | kunta | mysql 4.0.20 will solve incompatibility ?? |
| 16:19.58 | kunta | on mandriva 2k6 you can install mysql 4.1.12 or mysql 5.0 or mysql 4.0.20 |
| 16:26.28 | kunta | WARNING: System property "java.util.logging.manager" should be the name of a subclass of java.util.logging.LogManager |
| 16:26.28 | kunta | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError |
| 16:26.40 | kunta | someone know how to fix this error |
| 16:27.43 | kunta | hello |
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| 16:47.50 | kunta | hello |
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| 17:40.16 | jbalint | DaDave: session support without cookies should be default suported behaviour |
| 17:41.07 | DaDave | jbalint: yeah. but it doesn't work. it simply doesn't add the jsession to links. |
| 17:41.18 | DaDave | jbalint: i guess i have to use encodeUrl by hand? |
| 17:42.01 | jbalint | how are you creating the links? |
| 17:43.03 | DaDave | with usual <a href="test.jsp">... |
| 17:43.52 | jbalint | Are you using Struts? |
| 17:44.08 | DaDave | no |
| 17:44.38 | jbalint | This is a JSP though, right? |
| 17:44.45 | DaDave | yes, plain jsp |
| 17:45.00 | jbalint | Try using c:url instead. |
| 17:45.21 | DaDave | i can't. i need to be able to use plain <a hrefs.... |
| 17:45.28 | DaDave | it's requirment by third party... |
| 17:45.28 | jbalint | Why can't you use it? |
| 17:45.32 | jbalint | Why? |
| 17:46.01 | DaDave | complex to explain. but the jsp files need to be edited by tools that need normal <a hrefs... |
| 17:46.02 | jbalint | You can't get JSP features without using JSP functions. |
| 17:46.25 | DaDave | isn't there a Servlet Filter available that simply mdofies markup to add jsession to hrefs? |
| 17:46.38 | jbalint | Probably not because there is a standard JSP way to do it. |
| 17:46.52 | DaDave | which is encodeUrl, right? |
| 17:47.00 | jbalint | Also, I don't know if it's possible to retrieve the data sent on the ServletResponse. |
| 17:47.02 | DaDave | bc c:url is JSTL right? |
| 17:47.06 | jbalint | Yes. |
| 17:47.41 | DaDave | hmm... damn. i mean i saw filters that add execution time to the markup. so it should be possible to change markup... |
| 17:48.21 | jbalint | url? |
| 17:48.29 | |jones| | Is it safe to use a JK worker in two or more load balancers? |
| 17:48.41 | DaDave | jbalint: url? what do you mean? |
| 17:48.48 | jbalint | I might be able to add it to the very end, but if if response.flush() is called, I don't know it buffers it. |
| 17:48.55 | DaDave | hmm... |
| 17:48.56 | jbalint | DaDave: What is the URL of the filter that adds the execution time? |
| 17:49.15 | DaDave | jbalint: don't know. i don't remember. i just rem,ember that i saw iot once... |
| 17:49.25 | jbalint | |jones|: i dont see a reason it wouldnt be, so i would say yes, without knowing 100% for sure. |
| 17:50.12 | jbalint | DaDave: are you thinking of jamon? |
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| 17:50.31 | |jones| | we have a lot of ping/pong errors under heavy load using a worker in a few load balancers and _also_ as a standalone worker, the latter just to test that we can hit it, but now I see that you are not supposed to do that |
| 17:50.54 | jbalint | DaDave: Ah, I see, you can do it with a response wrapper. |
| 17:51.27 | jbalint | |jones|: not supposed to do what? |
| 17:51.44 | |jones| | the workers.properties docs say not to use a worker in a load balancer and as a standalone worker, but they don't say if you can use a worker in more than one load balancer |
| 17:52.19 | jbalint | Hrm, I wonder why.... |
| 17:52.39 | jbalint | If you have one app distributed and one app on only one box.... |
| 17:52.52 | DaDave | hmm... it's quite compex when you do it with a filter... |
| 17:53.39 | |jones| | I will just make another load balancer with the single worker to get around that restriction, but the docs don't say if its safe to do that either |
| 17:53.51 | jbalint | Well you have to search the text and find anything that matches, a href, etc, etc. |
| 17:54.19 | jbalint | |jones|: is the load high enough that tomcat might not have an idle thread at the time the ping is sent? |
| 17:54.21 | DaDave | jbalint: yeah. i guess it is some work to implement this. i realy wonder why noone has done that yet. |
| 17:54.41 | jbalint | Because it's supported in the default JSP environment. There is really no reason. |
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| 17:56.22 | |jones| | jkablint: we forced the min threads to be high on tomcat so that it should have idle workers, I'm setting up apache worker MPM now, we're using prefork in production |
| 17:57.10 | jbalint | The apache worker shouldn't have any impact on the ajp ping. |
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| 17:58.44 | |jones| | the workers will also go into Error state on jkmanager from one load balancer, but are fine from another load balancer, we don't know why, maybe because I'm using a standalone worker thats also in a load balancer and the docs say not to, I'll fix that and go from there |
| 17:59.25 | |jones| | btw, I noticed the JK docs are updated to 1.2.16 now, but 1.2.15 is the latest released version, is 1.2.16 due out this week? |
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| 18:03.08 | balony | In what way is tomcat used to access webservices? |
| 18:03.31 | keyhack | When Tomcat unpacks a WAR, it just unzips and overlays the existing directory correct? (If a user copied custom files into the webapps/APP directory, that aren't part of the WAR, they will still remain after an unpacking correct?) |
| 18:48.01 | |jones| | is anyone using jk 1.2.16? I can't find the download for it, just the docs and news that it was released on June 6 |
| 18:58.48 | DaDave | jbalint: okay, i have written such a Filter for having the session automaticly included. it was not as hard is i thought. |
| 18:59.23 | jbalint | DaDave: care to share? :) |
| 19:02.11 | DaDave | jbalint: shure, but i used a cheap trick in there. i use links like <a href="test.jsp;jsessionid?bal"> and the string ";jsessionid" is replaced with ";jsessionid=asd9324dfk3". |
| 19:02.28 | jbalint | So what is somebody DOES use a cookie? |
| 19:02.31 | DaDave | jbalint: but that could be easily extended to thake care of hrefs in general. |
| 19:02.57 | DaDave | jbalint: i thake care of that in a if clause. (well i don't know if it works yet :-)) |
| 19:04.49 | DaDave | jbalint: okay seems to work. |
| 19:05.14 | jbalint | cool. how did you check for cookie/jsessionid? |
| 19:05.35 | DaDave | jbalint: request.isRequestedSessionIdFromCookie() |
| 19:05.46 | jbalint | Ah, cool. |
| 19:05.51 | DaDave | i love good api's :-) |
| 19:08.50 | jbalint | Yet you choose not to use them :p (re: c:url) |
| 19:10.51 | DaDave | jbalint: i _can't_ use them. that's a difference. |
| 19:14.23 | DaDave | jbalint: so do you still want to have that filter? |
| 19:15.14 | jbalint | I just wanted to take a look if it's not a problem. TO put it in my mind. If you want to, you can share it on yassine's web site. |
| 19:18.29 | DaDave | jbalint: who is yassine? |
| 19:20.29 | jbalint | a guy on this channel that is starting an 'answers' type site. your thing might be neat to have on there if you want. |
| 19:20.29 | DaDave | url? |
| 19:21.51 | jbalint | tomcat.anfatech.com/ |
| 19:32.28 | yel | re |
| 19:32.49 | Kenneth | hey yassine |
| 19:33.16 | yassine | hi Kenneth |
| 19:34.06 | yassine | heya jbalint :) |
| 19:43.26 | jbalint | hey |
| 19:48.13 | DaDave | jbalint: hmm taht site looks pretty unfinished. |
| 19:48.20 | DaDave | jbalint: i will put it on my blog for now. |
| 19:48.56 | jbalint | url? |
| 19:49.36 | yassine | DaDave, what went wrong ? |
| 19:50.18 | DaDave | yassine: nothing. but that site seems to be as i said unfinished. and i don't have a clue where to put my stuff. the faq's are in a forgein language. |
| 19:50.52 | yassine | thats from lorem ipsum :) |
| 19:50.55 | jbalint | hahaha |
| 19:51.01 | jbalint | its demo copy. |
| 19:51.07 | swente | :) |
| 19:51.28 | swente | latin guide to tomcat. |
| 19:53.51 | DaDave | hmm... i don't like when people publish stuff in diffrent tha english. have you ever had to deal with source code, comments and docs in french fpr example. it's anoing. and almost everyone knows english. |
| 19:54.14 | swente | DaDave: yassine still works on it |
| 19:54.22 | yassine | DaDave, the whole site is in english |
| 19:54.31 | DaDave | except for the stuff in latin :-) |
| 19:54.41 | DaDave | does anyone know a good java based blog software? |
| 19:58.59 | jbalint | DaDave: its just demo copy. it doesnt even mean anything in latin. |
| 20:03.50 | DaDave | jbalint: ah okay. |
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| 20:21.01 | EnQu | hi - how can i use digested passwords in tomcat-users.xml? digest="MD5" in Realm in server.xml doesn't seem to work for me |
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| 20:39.45 | teletype | can i give ContextXmlReader any arbitrary path on the system if i specify the full path, or is it limited to things underneath tomcat's working dir? |
| 20:42.39 | teletype | ah scratch it, time to knock off, i'll figure this out tomorrow :) |
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| 21:25.52 | DaDave | jbalint: http://rentadeveloper.de/blog/ |
| 21:26.16 | jbalint | cool, thanks |
| 21:31.46 | DaDave | jbalint: but i still think that the servlet container should do that automaticly. |
| 21:31.58 | jbalint | it does via c:url :p |
| 21:32.12 | DaDave | jbalint: that is not automaticly! that via a special api. |
| 21:32.14 | jbalint | I don't think replacing all links and filtering the html is efficient or nice (to the developer). |
| 21:32.27 | jbalint | Well presumably c:Url' |
| 21:32.27 | DaDave | jbalint: it worked for years for php developers. |
| 21:32.37 | jbalint | s would be used for links in the same apps and href's would be external links. |
| 21:33.02 | jbalint | So a random <a href="...."> in PHP would have a ?sessionid=xxxx appended to it? |
| 21:33.03 | DaDave | jbalint: php can handle it. it's easy: you just have to thake care of the path. |
| 21:33.28 | keyhack | hey jbalint |
| 21:33.31 | jbalint | What do you mean take care of the path? |
| 21:33.32 | jbalint | hey keyhack |
| 21:33.55 | keyhack | jbalint, my Spring webapp is getting OutOfHeap errors now, after running for like 10 days or so |
| 21:34.09 | jbalint | keyhack: you know where? |
| 21:34.10 | keyhack | jbalint, and realizing that Tomcat/Java seems to be ignoring my -Xms,etc. arguments |
| 21:34.25 | keyhack | jbalint, no, it just throws it for my webapp (but the rest of Tomcat still runs) |
| 21:34.29 | jbalint | keyhack: Are you setting it in the right file? I think that is gonvernmet by the launcher. |
| 21:34.39 | jbalint | keyhack: you dont have a stack trace or anything? |
| 21:34.56 | keyhack | jbalint, no, the stacktrace is just for the view, which only has a few lines |
| 21:35.22 | keyhack | the JAVA_OPTS environment variable dictates the settings, and I modified catalina.sh to print it out before it launches the JVM and the flags are still there |
| 21:36.05 | DaDave | jbalint: php just have to thake care of if the url is in the current dir or not... |
| 21:36.23 | jbalint | keyhack: have you looked in the jvm section of the server status to see if it shows your values? |
| 21:37.00 | jbalint | DaDave: Ok, well .... go PHP then. :) I don't particularly think that is a good idea. |
| 21:37.35 | keyhack | Free memory: 424.77 MB Total memory: 494.50 MB Max memory: 1824.00 MB |
| 21:37.48 | jbalint | and max is what you set it to? |
| 21:37.59 | keyhack | I set max to 2048megs |
| 21:38.04 | keyhack | and I set min to 512megs |
| 21:38.42 | jbalint | What os? |
| 21:38.46 | keyhack | Solaris 9 |
| 21:38.49 | keyhack | i think |
| 21:38.51 | keyhack | or 8, let me check |
| 21:39.01 | keyhack | it's Solaris 9 |
| 21:39.20 | keyhack | JVM 1.5.0_07-b03 |
| 21:39.32 | keyhack | Tomcat 5.5.12 |
| 21:39.38 | jbalint | Could be classloader problems. That's where alot of the apps were getting heap errors before. |
| 21:40.01 | jbalint | Are you re-deploying the app? |
| 21:40.15 | keyhack | jbalint, thats what I always used to get during re-FTPing during development over and over |
| 21:40.19 | keyhack | QA left the box alone, used it now and then |
| 21:40.26 | keyhack | for days and days, and I checked it this AM, the webapp was fine |
| 21:40.35 | keyhack | and then the QA guy hit it this afternoon, and OutOfHeap |
| 21:40.42 | keyhack | for the whole app, and that was that ;-) |
| 21:40.47 | keyhack | so no, not redeploying |
| 21:41.34 | DaDave | jbalint: why go php? i have got it woreking with jsp :-) |
| 21:41.43 | jbalint | Is it possible there is a leak? have you tried a memory profiler? |
| 21:42.10 | jbalint | DaDave: I meant it in the "Go Tigers!!!" sense.... |
| 21:42.18 | keyhack | jbalint, its entirely possible |
| 21:42.29 | keyhack | I'm not sure how the beans are used |
| 21:42.33 | keyhack | both the JSF ones and the spring ones |
| 21:42.48 | keyhack | do the JSF beans all get made on a per user/session basis? |
| 21:43.00 | keyhack | and the Spring beans are a per-application basis? |
| 21:43.19 | DaDave | jbalint: so have you looked at the blog? |
| 21:43.46 | jbalint | keyhack: i have no idea about jsf. but the spring stuff should be per-app if you are using the context-loader-listener, and singletons |
| 21:43.50 | jbalint | DaDave: yep |
| 21:44.16 | DaDave | jbalint: what do you think about it? |
| 21:44.22 | keyhack | <listener-class>org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener</listener-class>, yes |
| 21:44.23 | keyhack | singletons? no |
| 21:44.41 | jbalint | keyhack: all components are singletons by default |
| 21:44.49 | jbalint | so unless you do singleton=false, they are |
| 21:44.57 | keyhack | ah, ok |
| 21:45.03 | keyhack | yeah, I have four spring beans |
| 21:45.07 | keyhack | DAOs |
| 21:45.17 | keyhack | so I was wondering if each user login was creating four new ones |
| 21:45.20 | keyhack | and they werent being released |
| 21:45.27 | jbalint | DaDave: looks good. ill add it to yassine's web site if its ok with you. |
| 21:45.33 | keyhack | they are just DAOs, I have much more JSF beans that contain information, etc. |
| 21:45.36 | jbalint | keyhack: nope. |
| 21:45.56 | keyhack | hmm |
| 21:46.02 | keyhack | so I'm not sure what could be leaking then |
| 21:46.17 | keyhack | other than beans not being released after the session expires |
| 21:46.24 | keyhack | and the session expiration is set at an hour |
| 21:46.43 | keyhack | so... im not sure how you could overload the heap with like two people hitting the box within such a small time frame |
| 21:46.43 | jbalint | this is a qa box you said right? so not that many people are using it? |
| 21:46.49 | keyhack | exactly |
| 21:46.56 | keyhack | i checked it, and i think he hit it maybe an hour or so later |
| 21:47.01 | keyhack | probably after my session even expired |
| 21:47.17 | keyhack | but even then, i've had 3-4 sessions going on at once before on a different machine (although all our machines are very close in specs) |
| 21:47.25 | jbalint | well i wouldnt think it is just session, unless you are really leaking. if it were the sessions, i would think it would be with a lot of users, because thats when more sessions are alive |
| 21:47.27 | keyhack | I'm going to have to take the time and try to profile Tomcat |
| 21:47.46 | keyhack | yeah, but we have some shitty designs going on |
| 21:47.49 | keyhack | like the Tree on the left |
| 21:47.51 | jbalint | well a memory profiler should show you all you need |
| 21:47.53 | keyhack | is pulled from the DB on every view |
| 21:48.05 | jbalint | is it stored on jsf? |
| 21:48.12 | keyhack | because people couldn't finalize a requirements, so its been shipped not caching it |
| 21:48.16 | keyhack | is what stored on JSF? |
| 21:48.27 | keyhack | the JSF just uses the Bean |
| 21:48.28 | jbalint | the tree. aren't component models or something stored by jsf? |
| 21:48.35 | keyhack | the Bean is invalidated on every request, basically |
| 21:48.39 | jbalint | how? |
| 21:48.45 | jbalint | because its requested scoped? |
| 21:48.48 | jbalint | or something? |
| 21:48.54 | keyhack | because the JSF page hits the bean, and it re-hits the database and returns the new root node |
| 21:49.08 | keyhack | and it just so happens to be request scoped, that one |
| 21:49.08 | jbalint | but is it possible that it would hold on to it? |
| 21:49.16 | keyhack | not really, no |
| 21:49.18 | keyhack | I don't see how |
| 21:49.19 | keyhack | its the same bean |
| 21:49.20 | jbalint | ok, then i would imagine it wouldnt |
| 21:49.26 | keyhack | and it would overwrite the old data, anyways |
| 21:49.29 | jbalint | you said it's queried from the db everytime |
| 21:49.43 | jbalint | just because its displayed doesnt mean jsf doesnt hold on to it for some reason |
| 21:49.44 | keyhack | yeah, so I'm not sure what could really be leaking |
| 21:49.48 | keyhack | all the raw data and all that are in the beans |
| 21:49.51 | keyhack | which, are singletons per user |
| 21:50.05 | keyhack | and also |
| 21:50.07 | keyhack | i click around |
| 21:50.09 | keyhack | the memory increases a bit |
| 21:50.13 | keyhack | but does even out |
| 21:50.20 | keyhack | its not like every time i hit refresh it jumps up and up and up |
| 21:50.52 | keyhack | so, like I said, nothing comes to mind that would be problematic |
| 21:51.13 | keyhack | just going to have to waste my whole day tomorrow profiling friggin Tomcat |
| 21:51.26 | jbalint | What are you using now to monitor the memory? jconsole? |
| 21:52.10 | keyhack | ps -o rss -p <pid> |
| 21:52.25 | keyhack | lol, something a coworker showed me |
| 21:54.43 | jbalint | You can get the yourkit EAP and try it out. |
| 21:55.37 | keyhack | yeah, its what im going to have to do |
| 21:55.48 | keyhack | although i dont know how much of it i can even reproduce |
| 21:55.52 | keyhack | won't know until i look at it |
| 21:58.41 | DaDave | jbalint: yeah shure. add it to yassines website. but only the link to the blog please |
| 21:59.06 | jbalint | DaDave: Ok, thanks again. |
| 22:01.31 | keyhack | jbalint, I wonder, Tomcat only runs in one JVM right |
| 22:01.37 | keyhack | so isnt there really only one heap for Tomcat |
| 22:01.49 | keyhack | is Tomcat enforciing its own heaps for the different webapps? |
| 22:02.15 | keyhack | I have to read up more on Tomcat in general |
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| 22:03.34 | DaDave | jbalint: a am improving it now so that it will handle all hrefs without the need to include ;jsessionid string in the linkt |
| 22:04.18 | jbalint | keyhack: not that i know of. |
| 22:04.32 | keyhack | well, how is that the JVM can be out of heap space |
| 22:04.34 | jbalint | DaDave: how will you handle known which to do? |
| 22:04.40 | keyhack | and yet, other webapps and the config app stuff works |
| 22:04.55 | jbalint | keyhack: any possibility of getting to see the stack trace? |
| 22:05.07 | keyhack | i dunno where it would be |
| 22:05.14 | jbalint | should be in the log |
| 22:05.58 | keyhack | which one, there are always like 4 |
| 22:06.19 | jbalint | catalina.out is the one i look at |
| 22:06.24 | keyhack | yeah, its never in there |
| 22:06.38 | jbalint | is logs? |
| 22:06.48 | jbalint | in |
| 22:06.49 | DaDave | jbalint: when the link cotains :// like in http:// i do nothing, else i append the jsessionid |
| 22:07.02 | keyhack | the heap stuff isnt in catalina.out |
| 22:07.13 | jbalint | keyhack: exceptions should be |
| 22:07.54 | keyhack | I know jbalint , but servlet ones aren't usually there |
| 22:08.05 | keyhack | they are usually in localhost*, which I am looking at todays, and I dont see it there either |
| 22:09.21 | jbalint | well either way, in the logs... :) |
| 22:09.32 | keyhack | im not seeing it. |
| 22:09.46 | keyhack | not htat it would tell me much in the first place |
| 22:09.50 | keyhack | so im not focusing on it right now |
| 22:11.53 | jbalint | stack traces are usually pretty helpful to get some context from when the error happened |
| 22:13.53 | keyhack | well, yes, stack traces that exist ;-) |
| 22:17.59 | keyhack | find . -name "*" -exec grep -i "outofheap" {} \; |
| 22:18.01 | keyhack | returns nothing |
| 22:18.28 | jbalint | I think it's OutOfMemoryError |
| 22:18.58 | keyhack | yeah, hold on |
| 22:22.32 | keyhack | SEVERE: Servlet.service() for servlet GraphServlet threw exception |
| 22:22.32 | keyhack | java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space |
| 22:22.33 | keyhack | lol |
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| 22:34.01 | keyhack | I dont know if thats truely the original cause |
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| 23:48.09 | DaDave | jbalint: i got it working. |
