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00:00.26yassinejasonb,  do you happen to know how i could make multiple inserts with jdbc ?
00:00.50yassineokay i got dc grgrg
00:01.59yassineahh
00:01.59yassineim here :)
00:01.59jasonbmultiple inserts?
00:01.59yassineyes to 3 differnt tables
00:01.59yassineone query
00:01.59jasonbwell, if you make it a JOIN.
00:03.42jasonbinsert into table1, table2 values ('column1 table1 value', 'column1 table2 value');
00:03.44jasonbsomething like that.
00:05.26yassineahh okay
00:06.03yassinemerci :)
00:06.34yassineone laste question before i go sleep what does this directive mean : maxWait="-1" ?
00:06.58jasonbmy sql may not work, but I'm pretty sure you can do it.  :)
00:07.13yassineits for postgresql
00:07.26yassinei found it here : https://wiki.objectweb.org/jonas/Wiki.jsp?page=Tomcat-To-JOnAS
00:07.40jasonbLooks like the -1 disables the maxWait feature, whatever the maxWait feature does.
00:09.17yassinemhh
00:09.20jasonbmaxWait: Maximum time to wait for a dB connection to become available
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00:09.52yassineahhh okay
00:09.55jasonbhttp://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jndi-datasource-examples-howto.html
00:10.19jasonbJOnAS rulez..  except for the license.
00:13.52rhizmoeokay, following up on my earlier userdir tomcat brouhaha
00:13.55jasonbMan, this is goofy!: https://wiki.objectweb.org/jonas/Wiki.jsp?page=JOnASLicensing
00:14.19rhizmoecan i just add random directories to a tomcat instance with a context?
00:14.35rhizmoeobviously i'm not a programmer if i'm asking basic questions about what a context can do.
00:14.39rhizmoefwiw
00:15.17jasonbWhat do you mean by "add"?
00:15.27jasonbAnd, do you mean inside of one already-deployed webapp or what?
00:16.04yassinegood night jasonb n8 all
00:16.51rhizmoeactually, i think i misstated my question. i'd like another ROOT on a different port.
00:17.21rhizmoeso that host.name:8080/index.jsp is one webapp and :9999/index.jsp is another
00:17.51rhizmoepreferably without two tomcat instances
00:18.01rhizmoewhich would be silly anyway
00:18.02rhizmoe:)
00:20.50jasonbg'night yassine
00:22.20jasonbrhizmoe: Same exact host name?
00:22.32jasonb(in both cases?)
00:23.24rhizmoeyes
00:23.47rhizmoeQA junk. devs need a solo instance/webapp
00:25.03jasonbI don't think you can do that with Tomcat.
00:25.12jasonbI never even thought of doing that, in fact.  :)
00:25.30rhizmoereally?!
00:26.08jasonbThere might be ways of rewriting the URLs internally to Tomcat, like with the RewriteValve.. and then map requests off to a different webapp.
00:26.15jasonb(one that isn't the ROOT webapp)
00:26.20jasonbBut, otherwise, there is no way to do it.
00:26.24rhizmoeso maybe just give them a dir under webapps like "QA_DEV" or something and let them go nuts that way?
00:26.41rhizmoehmm, weird. i'd figure you could divide it up by port.
00:26.52jasonbYou really can't.
00:27.10jasonb.. unless I'm missing something pretty groundbreaking, and I doubt it.  :)
00:27.38jasonbYou can use the same IP address for lots of different host names, and each host name can have a different ROOT webapp.
00:27.47jasonbBut, you cannot have more than one ROOT webapp per host name.
00:27.59jasonb(even if the requests come in over different ports)
00:28.20jasonbI must agree that that's a pretty strange limitation.
00:28.32jasonbIt should be one webapp per host:port combo.
00:28.43jasonbOne ROOT webapp that is.
00:28.56jasonbOr, even one ROOT webapp per protocol://host:port combo.
00:31.40rhizmoei guess most situations are handled well enough by people dev'ing on their own boxes :)
00:35.37jasonbYeah, but that restriction is sort of arbitrary, and doesn't need to be there.
00:39.59rhizmoei want a refund!
00:40.17jasonbheh!
00:41.06jasonbProbably RewriteValve would let you do it.. (I'm guessing)
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01:50.39Roaming_LionHello all
01:53.21Roaming_Lionwanting to know whether or not Apache alone can get your site on the web. probably a cringeworthy question to all here, but I had to ask Someone. can Apache alone get my site web'd, or do I need to buy a domain?
01:58.57oxbloodI like your thinking: "webbing my site."
01:59.47oxbloodIf you want to have your own domain, of course you have to purchase it with a registrar then have a DNS server to host that domain.
02:00.18oxbloodUnless you are willing to live with accessing your web server via IP.
02:00.30oxbloodOk, I gotta go to the airport... Argh!
02:00.46Roaming_Lionthat's what I was getting at.. web access.
02:01.08Roaming_Lionplease miss your flight and tell me how to get beyond my own network.
02:08.08Roaming_LionIt's just for coursework, and I'm an Apache n00b. site's all set up, and server's all config'd, except webusers cannot access it. probably one line of host info I'm missing. anybody?
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02:12.08dingo00w011anyone here?
02:12.58dingo00w011i have a question on apache and tomcat with mod_rewrite thrown in
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04:36.45columbojasonb: where in your install is it best to set -Djava.awt.headless=true
04:39.40jasonbcolumbo: In *my* install?
04:39.54columboyeah, your rpm...
04:40.02jasonbcolumbo: /opt/tomcat/conf/tomcat-env.sh.
04:40.10jasonbcolumbo: Just find the JAVA_OPTS setting, and put it in there.
04:40.15columboi thought that just wanted to make sure.
04:40.18columbo:D
04:40.22jasonbcolumbo: Do you like my RPM?  :)
04:40.32columboi love it ;)
04:40.48columboheh, i'll stop myself there
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04:40.59jasonbcolumbo: Did you deinstall the other tomcat package that came with your distro?  Or did you install mine in addition?
04:41.29columboi didnt install anything actully, just jpackage java and your tomcat
04:41.42jasonbahh.  What distro are you using?
04:42.02columbofc5 x86_64
04:42.11jasonbExcellent!  That's what I use.  :)
04:42.31jasonbIt does come with a "tomcat5" package, but that one shouldn't conflict whatsoever with mine.
04:42.41jasonb(and, you might not have installed theirs)
04:43.09columboyeah, no i did'nt bother, i had played with your rpm on fc4 before this install
04:43.19jasonbahh, good.
04:43.26jasonbSo you're an expert with it already.
04:43.41columbonot at all, not by any means heh
04:43.51jasonbYou're one of my beta testers, since the book it's from isn't published yet.
04:44.52columbowell no problems thus far
04:45.44jasonbSweet.
04:45.53jasonbAnything it doesn't do that you'd like it to do?
04:46.37columboi think i'll find out once i jump into clustering, at this point i'm doing the redimentary stuff.
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04:46.45jasonbAlso, did you relocate it, or are you using it in the default path of /opt/tomcat ?
04:47.10columbo<PROTECTED>
04:47.44jasonbOkay.  I personally like that better than /var (a very strange place to install software, IMHO), but I don't know what the opinion generally is..
04:48.00jasonbPlus, my package is fully recolcateable, so anyone can install it wherever they want.
04:48.26jasonbDo you use the ant build system for building the RPMs, or do you just pull and install the binary RPMs?
04:49.04columboi havent had a need to do any source changes, so i took the easy route and just pulled the RPMs
04:49.21columboi
04:49.24jasonbGreat.  It's wonderful when life can be as simple as it really should be.  :)
04:49.51columboyeh, i'm pretty excited about getting this site out to production.
04:50.29jasonbI hope my package makes that easier.  It sure makes life easier for me.
04:51.21columboi bet.
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05:47.06columbookay, i make changes to tomcat-env.sh and even service tomcat stop, but java processes are still showing unchanged args in TOP
05:47.58lykenits not calling env vars instead is it ?
05:48.22columbodoesnt look like it. i rebooted just to see what shows up
05:49.48columborequires reboot for those changes to take effect or a java restart which i don't know how to do.
05:50.17columbobut they do take effect fwiw
05:52.47columboi've got a headache now...
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07:17.27linuxdesktopHi
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07:38.07Lfemorning! is there an upper limit for how many processes tomcat can spawn?
07:39.04Lfe(tc5.5)
07:41.46jasonbLfe: Tomcat actually spawns no external processes except in the case where you have it configured to fork another JVM for compiling JSPs.
07:42.41jasonbLfe: If you're asking about Java itself, no, Java has no internal limit to the number of processes it could spawn.  But, the OS could limit it per user.
07:43.25Lfejasonb: ok, i see a thing called [tp-processor] which starts at 1-20 and ends up at 400-500 something - then just hung (my mod_jk couldn't  connect to it)
07:43.57jasonbouch.
07:43.58Lfeno exceptions from my app (that i've found so far)
07:44.05jasonbAre you sure that's not "http-processor"?
07:44.11Lfeno, 100% sure
07:44.42jasonbLfe: In your conf/server.xml, do you see anything set to 400 or 500?
07:45.23Lfeit's at 600
07:45.40jasonbWhat is?
07:45.41Lfeso that could be one reason (i just didnt see the 500-600)
07:45.57Lfesorry, max-threads
07:46.02Lfebut shouldn't this cycle?
07:46.09jasonbOkay.  Well, so configure it to a smaller number.
07:46.53jasonbBut, to set your expectations properly, mod_jk is probably not going to work real well for you.  You should use mod_proxy instead.
07:47.05jasonbibot: mod_proxy
07:47.11ibotextra, extra, read all about it, mod_proxy is at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/proxy-howto.html
07:49.35Lfei've looked into mod_proxy, but that can't filter out my static content in a way which jkmount/jkunmount does - or can it?
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07:51.59Lfei was under the impression that each tomcat processor served the request through ajp and then closed?
07:52.42jasonbWell, I actually don't remember what mod_jk does as far as its socket connection per request.
07:53.10jasonbISTR some talk about keep-alive connections for that, but I don't remember if it's the default or not.
07:53.31jasonbAbout the jkmount/jkunmount, can you give me an example of what you would do with it?
07:56.12Lfei have some wildchar mounts, a directory mount plus an unmount in that dir
07:56.42Lfei'll look into the relationship between max_threads,max_spare_threads and max_min_threads for the connector and see if that should change something
07:58.45Lfejasonb: thank you for your fast and helpful comments!
07:59.03jasonbLfe: You're welcome.
07:59.14jasonbLfe: You might want to have a look at the httpd docs for mod_proxy..
07:59.22jasonbLfe: I'm sure it does all the things you want it to do.
07:59.29jasonbLfe: For example: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html#noproxy
08:00.01Lfejasonb: i will look into it. may i ask why i should prefer mod_proxy over the ajp protocol? overcocming my processor-spawning-thing ?
08:00.46Lfeyeah, guess i could do a locationmatch or similar
08:01.27jasonbLfe: In general, mod_jk is quite buggy and unreliable.
08:01.39jasonbLfe: Which version of Apache httpd are you using?
08:02.12Lfe2.2.2 :( i will be a good citizen and upgrade!
08:02.27jasonbexcellent!
08:02.30Lfetoo bad, i've had a nice relationship with jk so far
08:02.45jasonbSo then mod_proxy in your Apache speaks the AJP protocol.
08:03.16jasonbSee this page: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html#proxypass
08:03.27Lfeyes, youre right - i just haven't looked into it very thorough since jk has been working out for me
08:03.34jasonbFor ProxyPass, there is a "!" syntax where you can say what it is *not* to proxy.
08:04.19Lfejasonb: i'll have some java and read up some. thanks again for pointers :)
08:04.35jasonbWell, it's up to you whether you want to use mod_jk or not.  In this channel, we've been through the wringer with mod_jk and tend to not want to support it versus mod_proxy.
08:04.46jasonbLfe: You're welcome.
08:05.39Lfejasonb: ill have that in mind.. on the other hand, there's no reason to not use lighttpd and proxy through there now :) (no ajp though)
08:07.13jasonbWell, if it can proxy to Tomcat, then you really don't need AJP unless performance is a problem.. but if you're really worried about performance for your dynamic pages, you would not put any other web server in front of Tomcat.
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08:44.02Lfejasonb: been looking into it a bit now, and it seems like i had all the 500 threads in a busy state - and then it somehow didn't flush
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09:14.19tommydHi all!
09:14.35tommydI have a configuration question regarding tomcat and log4j
09:15.12yeljasonb, still awake ?
09:15.15tommydI'm trying to make log4j recognize the env var $CATALINA_HOME, but I'm unsure how to accomplish that
09:15.31tommydi.e. ${CATALINA_HOME} doesn't work in the XML config file
09:15.55tommydso I wonder if this file is touched by tomcat itself or if I should ask somebody involved with log4j...
09:18.48tommydon the other hand I've seen it working with ${catalina.base}, but this is not set to an absolute path
09:18.57tommyd(and I symlink my webapps)
09:20.26tommydany pointers?
09:23.10yassinemhh tommyd  i dont have answers for your questions but a suggestion
09:23.46yassinemost people puts there log4j.properties in WEB-INF/classes/
09:24.06yassineand afaik its get picked by tomcat without problem
09:24.20tommydwell, its not the config file which is not picked
09:24.26tommyd(this one makes no problems)
09:24.28yassinethe driver ?
09:24.35yassinesorry
09:24.38yassinei mean the jar
09:24.41tommydits the problem to define a path / file to which is logged
09:25.33tommydthere is a "appender" section in the log4j xml file which has a parameter "File" and this param needs to be set to a path
09:25.47tommydI surely could set it to an absolute path, but this would be system dependent
09:26.15tommydI'd like to use tomcat's own "$CATALINA_HOME/logs" directory to which is logged
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09:30.20tommydhrm... ${catalina.home}
09:30.35tommydseems to work... ok, problem solved for now... thanks!
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09:57.07kasbahi have a problem with the HttpSession object ... it is creating a new session every time ... it dosn't look like it is setting any cookie ... what am i doing wrong?
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10:00.12linuxdesktopis it possible
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11:49.51dimhi guys
11:50.18dimmy tomcat4 installation don't compile java generated from jsp pages
11:50.28dimi've read docs and faqs, tried given tips
11:50.31dimnothing helps
11:56.34dimroot@patrocle:/var/lib/tomcat4/work/Standalone/localhost/SitesWeb# javac *
11:56.34dimindex_d_jsp.java:10: '.' expected
11:56.34dimimport EquivalenceCaractere;
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11:57.12Darkshi
11:57.20Darksi install the tomcat
11:57.36Darkshow i login whoit user and pass
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12:02.28Darks[14:57] <Darks> hi
12:02.28Darks[14:57] <Darks> i install the tomcat
12:02.28Darks[14:57] <Darks> how i login whoit user and pass
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12:10.29yassineworkhi *
12:11.16yassineworkDarks,  did you created users and assigned necessary roles to them so that you can use them to logs in ?
12:25.29Darksyassinework
12:25.35yassinework?
12:25.40Darksi dont no how to do it
12:25.52DarksNOTE: For security reasons, using the administration webapp is restricted to users with role "admin". The manager webapp is restricted to users with role "manager".  Users are defined in $CATALINA_HOME/conf/tomcat-users.xml.
12:25.52DarksIncluded with this release are a host of sample Servlets
12:25.57Darksi go to the
12:26.02Darksconf/tomcat-users.xml
12:26.15yassineworkyes
12:26.24Darksi cange to tomcat-users.xml the user
12:26.27yassineworkopen it there you will finde some examples
12:26.27Darksto admin
12:26.33Darksbat i can git in
12:26.45yassinework?
12:26.52Darksi need to make new one?
12:26.54yassineworkdid you restarted tomcat ?
12:27.04Darkshow i restart it?
12:27.12yassineworkhow did you started it ?
12:27.24Darksi install the bin
12:27.57Darksnetdirector-3.0.e.RC1-linux-prod-installer.bin
12:28.05yassinework:s
12:28.19Darkshow is restart tomcat
12:28.30yassineworksorry i dont know that but you can cd /path/to/tomcat/bin
12:28.36yassineworkand ./startup.sh
12:28.47yassineworkand ./shutdown.sh
12:29.19Darks[root@localhost jakarta-tomcat]# ./shutdown.sh
12:29.19Darksbash: ./shutdown.sh: No such file or directory
12:29.19Darks[root@localhost jakarta-tomcat]#
12:29.56dimdoes tomcat 4.1 run on jdk 1.3 ?
12:30.52Darksyassinework
12:30.55Darks[root@localhost bin]# ./shutdown.sh
12:30.55DarksUsing CATALINA_BASE:   /opt/netdirector-3.0.e.RC1/jakarta-tomcat
12:30.55DarksUsing CATALINA_HOME:   /opt/netdirector-3.0.e.RC1/jakarta-tomcat
12:30.56DarksUsing CATALINA_TMPDIR: /opt/netdirector-3.0.e.RC1/jakarta-tomcat/temp
12:30.56DarksUsing JAVA_HOME:       /opt/netdirector-3.0.e.RC1/j2sdk
12:30.56Darks[root@localhost bin]#
12:31.18yassineworkDarks,  please use pastbine
12:31.38yassineworkDarks,  why not deinstalling that netdi*** stuff and do it manually ?
12:32.22Darksman thenks now ites work
12:32.27dimwhat about running tomcat 4.1 on top of jdk 1.3 ?
12:32.57dimthe problem i get is a non-packaged webapp (jsp) which does not compile into tomcat4.1 / jdk1.4
12:36.31Darkshow i can add server?
12:43.05yassineworkdownload the package from its source tomcat.apache.org
12:43.13yassineworkand unpack it and ...
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13:21.59Darksyassinework
13:22.05yassinework.
13:22.10Darkshow i can add samba server to
13:23.16Darksyassinework ?
13:23.28yassineworksamba server ?
13:23.48Darksyes
13:24.36Darkslet me show https://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=64487
13:25.00Darksmy engles is bad show forget me
13:25.36yassineworkwhat is your native language ?
13:25.43yassineworkspanish ?
13:26.09Darksno man
13:26.15Darksi from israel
13:26.22Darksand you?
13:26.28yassineworkahh what is your native language ?
13:27.19Darksengles
13:27.31Darksenglish
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13:46.02dariiusHi all
13:46.38dariiusFirst sorry for my poor english
13:46.45dariiusand my question is
13:47.19dariiusi have some tomcat server in a load balancing state behind some apache
13:47.47dariiusthe file system on which servlet are is read only for security purposes ( nfs mounted)
13:49.29dariiuswhen i undeployed an application the tomcat try to erase the files but cannot (cause of RO filesystem)
13:49.46dariiussometimes the tomcat freeze and a full restart have to be done
13:50.27dariiusis there any issues about having tha apllications on a read only NFS mounted filesystem ?
13:51.17dariiusversion is 5.5.7
13:52.54yassineworkDarks, im from Germany
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15:13.04dimjava.io.FilePermission /var/lib/tomcat4/webapps/indexer/log/2006-08-23-General.log write
15:13.35dimi fixed unix privileges (776, tomcat4:www-data) for directory (file does not exists)
15:14.01dimmust I edit some java/catalina/tomcat/jdk policy or property ?
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15:41.40unbekanntIs there a way to set the Host header that tomcat uses with jsessionid/cookies?
15:42.10unbekanntwe want to share sessions across multiple hosts
15:42.28unbekanntso instead of setting the cookie to 'server1.foo.com', it would set it to 'foo.com'
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21:20.55longbeach[code=CANT_CONNECT_LOOPBACK] Cannot connect due to potential loopback problems
21:20.58longbeach:/
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21:21.53kasbahhow can i calculate a md5sum in java?
21:37.24Alconquiankasbah: there are lots of examples to be found on google!
21:37.28yassinekasbah,  i think there is already a function for that in the jdk
21:37.39kasbahhmm, can't find it
21:37.39Alconquiankasbah: here's something containing code I jacked from some google search, http://rafb.net/paste/results/QMdT3j77.html
21:37.42AlconquianhashType should be "MD5" when calling it
21:37.45Alconquianthere's also SHA1, SHA256, etc.
21:38.10kasbahoh, thank you
21:38.17kasbahnow i just have to understand that ... ;)
21:38.18kasbah<- java newbie
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22:04.01travisif i want a double-quote in an AccessLogValve pattern, can i just go pattern="some stuff here &quot;quoted thing&quot; other stuff"? will &quot; be interpreted properly?
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22:34.52yassinelyken, are you there ?
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22:35.38tottingeAnyone here install tomcat via ubuntu?
22:35.38tottingeapt-get, I mean.
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22:35.51Led_Zeppelinhey, any Lucene users here?
22:35.51Led_Zeppelinwas wondering, what is better to use JSP or servlet when working with Lucene in a Tomcat Env
22:51.16yassinetottinge, dont do that
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22:51.25Led_Zeppelinany lucene users here? with tomcat?
22:51.25tottingeGee, thanks.
22:51.26yassineLed_Zeppelin,  boths components you stated are not depending on lucene nor does lucene depend on them so its a matter or your design
22:51.32Led_Zeppelinyassine, yep, I know. Just wanted some advice here about developing with it
22:51.36Led_Zeppelinon tc
22:51.39yassineLed_Zeppelin,  i would only suggest keeping MVC in mind
22:51.51Led_ZeppelinMVC? what is that?
22:51.51yassinethink of your application in tiere
22:51.51Led_Zeppelinoh, a part of my application for mine
22:51.51Led_Zeppelini think i know what you mean
22:51.51yassineyour application = {| Model | View | Controller| }
22:51.52Led_Zeppelinoh!
22:51.52yassineModel = Data model
22:51.52Led_Zeppelinhmm
22:51.52Led_Zeppelinhehe, seems like you are a pro at this yassine
22:51.52Led_Zeppelinlol
22:51.52yassinenot im here to learn just like you
22:51.52Led_Zeppelinthis lucene is killing me here
22:51.52yassineand since you seem to be lucky i have a book  on MVC here under the old pizza from last week laying :)
22:52.07yassineLed_Zeppelin,  i have been told its a real Pain but it is worth that pain
22:52.07Led_Zeppelinhaha
22:52.07yassinei only hope you exactly know what you want to do with it
22:52.08yassinebecause otherwise the whole pain will be useless for you
22:52.08Led_Zeppelintrue
22:52.08kasbahLed_Zeppelin: you schould by a good book about patterns
22:52.08Led_Zeppelinsimple index+search
22:52.08yassineif i were you i would make  table of my requirements
22:52.08yassineand get a list of features (lucene or even other engine ) and make than my decision
22:52.09Led_Zeppelin\ds ?
22:52.10yassinei tried \d
22:52.10yassineahh that works thanks you
22:52.11yassinebut why can't i select * from my_seq ?
22:52.17Led_Zeppelinseq is an entitity
23:01.16Led_Zeppelinwhat are you trying to do?
23:01.19Led_Zeppelinget the last number used in a sequence ?
23:01.26yassinei made a mistake :)
23:01.44yassinei created it via phppgssql
23:01.49yassineand i named it orderID
23:01.54Led_Zeppelinthats your problem :p
23:01.59Led_Zeppelinthats your problem :p
23:02.35yassinewhich doese not work ffrom the command line since everytime i select * from orderID
23:02.35yassineit gets converted to orderid
23:26.19adf323Hello all, I'm having a problem with Tomcat and SSL.  I've created a SSL Cert, added it to the keystore, and added it to the JRE/JVM cacerts.  Yet I still get the following error: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target.
23:26.20adf323I thought I had set this up correctly?
23:38.50adf323To all,  One of my coworkers pointed it out for me! Forgot to restart Tomcat after added the SSL key to the JVM cacerts!
23:38.51adf323oops!
23:43.16oxbloodI got my book today: "How Tomcat Works".
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