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| 00:22.18 | microchp | Question: (Keeping in mind I am not a developer and just a systems engineer) Has anyone here had bad experiences using JetSpeed 2.0 with Tomcat 5.5.17 in general? I could not find anything on the JetSpeed portal site where people are discussing current known issues or show stoppers. Has anyones application stopped working when going from Tomcat 5.5.12 to 5.5.17? |
| 00:31.20 | Uviz | You cut under your arm? |
| 00:32.10 | microchp | ya, I was fighting this undead prist when some rogue snuck up behind me and sapped me... it hurts. |
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| 00:32.53 | Uviz | I hardly believe you left your chair today. :) |
| 00:33.00 | microchp | lol |
| 00:33.10 | microchp | sorry, in a weird mood. |
| 00:34.05 | Uviz | I got bitten by bunch of fire ants. For some reason I let me bestow me with bites until I realized the pain is too much stand there pretending to be a "man." |
| 00:34.51 | yassine | hi Uviz microchp |
| 00:34.55 | Uviz | That's ok, I'm in a weird mood too. I mean, after shoveling for 6 hours, I keep losing the trail of my thoughts. |
| 00:35.01 | Uviz | Yello yassine. |
| 00:35.11 | Uviz | Or should I say, 'Lo. |
| 00:35.28 | microchp | ouch. I had one fire any get in my pants once. It hurt enough I stay away from them. |
| 00:35.47 | yassine | :) |
| 00:36.13 | Uviz | I have like 10 or more red areas the size of quarter all over my leg and foot. |
| 00:36.27 | Uviz | I'm trying really hard not to scratch them. |
| 00:36.44 | microchp | paper cut on the eyeball will distract your from the bites. |
| 00:37.14 | Uviz | Hah, actually my 95-year-old had an eye correction surgery today. |
| 00:37.32 | Uviz | She has the next one scheduled in 7 days. |
| 00:37.52 | yassine | Uviz, what time is it at your place ? |
| 00:38.17 | Uviz | Time for me to put my head on a pillow and say ZzzZzzzzZzzZzzz... |
| 00:38.24 | Uviz | 8:30PM. |
| 00:38.28 | yassine | mhh :) |
| 00:38.42 | Uviz | It's 2:30AM there, right? |
| 00:38.53 | yassine | hahhh 8:30PM --> 20H30 ? |
| 00:39.08 | yassine | yes its 0230 here |
| 00:39.10 | Uviz | I swear if I can stay up until 10PM, I change my name to Superman. |
| 00:39.20 | yassine | lol |
| 00:39.52 | microchp | paper cut on the eyeball can help you there too |
| 00:39.55 | microchp | of coffe |
| 00:40.00 | microchp | but coffee is for wimps |
| 00:40.11 | microchp | ^or |
| 00:40.35 | Uviz | I saw an ad in a magezine on a Expresso/Caffee maker with the price tag of $3800. |
| 00:41.37 | Uviz | Rich people, pfft! Why don't you just liquidify your gold plates and drink from that. |
| 00:42.14 | microchp | I am happy with coffee from a gas station or a convenience store. |
| 00:43.01 | microchp | http://www.illwillpress.com/sml.html |
| 00:43.27 | Uviz | I don't buy coffee from anywhere, period. I used to buy bag of ice from gas stations but they jacked up the prices to $2.40 which is ridiculous considering I can make my own for $0.00. |
| 00:44.07 | microchp | I prefer the germs that a convenience store worker will add to my intake. |
| 00:44.38 | Uviz | Hah, I liked his Katrina's overview. |
| 00:45.06 | microchp | well this was fun, but I am going to go install outdated unsupported versions of Tomcat so that legacy garbage will run without a developer having to work. |
| 00:46.47 | Uviz | So why does a system engineer need Tomcat in the first place? |
| 00:46.54 | Uviz | Shoot. |
| 00:52.04 | rhizmoe | i'm an SA and i take care of the tomcat here |
| 00:58.02 | Uviz | Baby sitting is fuuuun. |
| 00:58.04 | Uviz | :) |
| 00:58.11 | yassine | Uviz, really ? |
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| 00:58.24 | Uviz | Baby sitting tomcat I meant. |
| 00:58.33 | yassine | ahh |
| 00:58.55 | Uviz | Like watch it magically deploy or redeploy applications... |
| 01:00.57 | yassine | Uviz, are you familiar with session listerns ? |
| 01:01.12 | Uviz | No, I haven't gotten that far. |
| 01:01.21 | Uviz | I'm reading on filters. |
| 01:01.29 | yassine | jasonb, are you around ? |
| 01:01.55 | yassine | im having a dilema and wondering if someone can clear my confusion |
| 01:02.05 | Uviz | I still can't figure out which listener would get notifed when the session times out. |
| 01:02.07 | yassine | i need a global session listner |
| 01:02.16 | jasonb | yassine: I'm around. |
| 01:02.32 | Uviz | What's a global session listener? |
| 01:03.11 | yassine | jasonb, is it possible to set my listner in the $CATALINA_HOME/conf/web.xml ? |
| 01:04.16 | yassine | Uviz, a listner that listen to all the events that occures container wide |
| 01:04.31 | yassine | is a global listner |
| 01:04.51 | yassine | Uviz, afaik you can set a listner per application |
| 01:05.22 | yassine | in the application/WEB-INF/web.xml |
| 01:05.25 | Uviz | I guess that requires inter-application communication which is out of my domain of knowledge. |
| 01:05.54 | yassine | so that listner only listen to events that occures inside that application |
| 01:06.04 | yassine | what i want is a global listner |
| 01:06.46 | Uviz | But lets say you can device an application that manages a listener that gets notifed every time an event gets fired up in a different application. |
| 01:07.07 | yassine | so im wondering if i can set it in the location previously mentioned _AND_ if it (the listner) can use Global resources like DataSources ... |
| 01:07.14 | Uviz | So the listener becomes a "source," or "observerable" itself. |
| 01:07.16 | jasonb | yassine: Are you talking about a Tomcat listener, or a Servlet spec listener? |
| 01:07.52 | yassine | jasonb, i was expecting you to clear my confusion not to confuse me more :) |
| 01:08.03 | jasonb | yassine: Heh. |
| 01:08.25 | yassine | did not know that there is differnt listner at all |
| 01:08.27 | Uviz | It makes sense for such kind listener to be a container listener, right? |
| 01:08.55 | jasonb | yassine: Tomcat has some "listeners" that are objects that run as part of Tomcat's container system. But, also, the Java servlet spec specifies some "listeners" that are part of the webapp (and therefore can never be global to all webapps in a container). |
| 01:09.47 | Uviz | So I take it such listeners, Tomcat's, are not portable? |
| 01:11.24 | jasonb | They are not. |
| 01:11.29 | jasonb | They are Tomcat specific. |
| 01:11.36 | yassine | :(( |
| 01:11.56 | jasonb | Also, they cannot really be deployed inside the webapp (unless you're really, really 31337!) |
| 01:13.44 | yassine | is there an way to get a username of a user when his session times out ? |
| 01:16.20 | jasonb | Well, request.getRemoteUser()? |
| 01:17.59 | yassine | jasonb, i have other servers (apache that does not controll the access but tomcat does) and i need to log out the user from apache too when his session times out in tomcat |
| 01:19.50 | jasonb | yassine: That's going to be pretty tough. |
| 01:20.29 | jasonb | yassine: Doing auth and logouts across more than one server, more than one auth & session implementation is really complex. |
| 01:21.31 | jasonb | yassine: Usually, that model points to flawed or not-well-thought-out architecture, but one can only be sure after studying all the details. :) |
| 01:50.35 | yassine | Uviz, |
| 01:50.50 | yassine | not yet gone to sleep ? |
| 01:50.51 | Uviz | Yes. |
| 01:50.55 | Uviz | No. |
| 01:51.02 | yassine | ahh here you are mr superman :) |
| 01:51.14 | Uviz | Reading some old event-listener articles. |
| 01:51.27 | Uviz | I'm like stuck in 1998 or something. |
| 01:51.35 | yassine | wow |
| 01:51.54 | yassine | Uviz, ever generated pdf with java ? |
| 01:52.38 | Uviz | No, but I looked around for a "license-free" framwork that does that. |
| 01:52.53 | yassine | and ? |
| 01:53.08 | yassine | were you sucessfull ? |
| 01:53.28 | Uviz | I can't remember what I found one that get the job done although didn't try it out. |
| 01:53.43 | Uviz | Don't ask me what it's called because it was long time ago. |
| 01:54.32 | Uviz | Creating a MS .doc -> .pdf servlet should be a breeze with that application. |
| 01:55.13 | Uviz | I should have bookmarked it. |
| 01:58.58 | yassine | mhh ill search tomorow for some |
| 01:59.16 | yassine | its late and i feel like if im a zombie right now |
| 01:59.25 | yassine | good night mate |
| 02:01.10 | Uviz | Ok, G'night. |
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| 05:12.48 | pucko | hm. |
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| 07:40.38 | dvayanu | re |
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| 08:22.50 | pip | hello |
| 08:24.41 | pip | I started tomcat with netbeans sucessfully,but I can not broswer the documtation of Tomcat ,why ? |
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| 08:29.00 | swente | pip: i "assume" that netbeans does not deploy everything you would expect from a "full" tomcat installation. |
| 08:29.10 | lyken | itdoesnt |
| 08:30.27 | pip | swente, then what shall I do so that I can have a browser the doc of tomcat ? |
| 08:30.45 | swente | pip: the docs are online at tomcats home-site |
| 08:31.31 | pip | swente, is tomcat a web server ? |
| 08:31.41 | swente | pip: alternatively .. you might download a binary tomcat-distribution from there, and grab it's ROOT-webapp and add it somehow to your netbeans' tomcat |
| 08:31.45 | swente | pip: more or less, yes. |
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| 08:33.02 | pip | swente,it looks like web server besides that I know nothing about it |
| 08:33.50 | pip | swente, thanks |
| 08:34.01 | swente | pip: it's a webserver. a servlet-container .. it serves files placed in special directories .. and it also can execute certain special types of files [e.g. JSP] and has some other advanced functionality (e.g. servlets), |
| 08:34.39 | swente | pip: but, for most users it's not a real replacement for e.g. apache-httpd. |
| 08:34.39 | pip | good ,I see . |
| 08:35.07 | pip | why for most users ? |
| 08:35.26 | pip | swente, unless use JSP ? |
| 08:35.38 | swente | pip: exactly, unless one needs JSP/Servlets etc. |
| 08:35.57 | pip | swente, jsp is good |
| 08:36.57 | swente | pip: "most users" want to execute php-scripts ;-). well .. i'd say .. one has to have a "need" for tomcat to get lucky with it, in opposite to apache-httpd which is somewhat more common, more widespread and more "generic|flexible|...." |
| 08:37.17 | pip | is there any better container than tomcat in apache project ? |
| 08:37.45 | swente | servlet-container? afaik tomcat is the only servlet-container in the apache-project. [and i dare to say it's one of the "better" ones in general] |
| 08:38.11 | pip | got it |
| 08:38.34 | swente | pip: tomcat is good anough as servlet-container to make *many* other projects include tomcat as their servlet-container [e.g. jboss, SUNs appserver, ..] |
| 08:39.15 | lyken | redhat.. |
| 08:39.18 | lyken | to name a few.. |
| 08:40.08 | pip | must I use tomcat if I learn java ? |
| 08:40.37 | pip | I mean if tomcat is used is J2EE |
| 08:40.38 | lyken | heh |
| 08:43.51 | swente | pip: no |
| 08:44.20 | pip | swente, OK |
| 08:45.02 | swente | pip: java -- just a language. tomcat is a very, very specific usage of java. (if i got your previous question right) |
| 08:46.43 | pip | swente, I think so |
| 08:46.51 | swente | :) |
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| 08:47.36 | pip | swente, JSP is just a specific usage of some small partJof 2EE system |
| 08:48.11 | pip | *J2ee |
| 08:49.20 | swente | mmh i might express it in the wrong way, but "Servlet Specification (inlcuding jsp etc. -- tomcats focus)" is a subset of JEE. |
| 08:50.04 | yassine | goood morning tomcat :) |
| 08:50.22 | pip | yassine, who is tomcat ? |
| 08:52.10 | pip | what time is it there ? |
| 08:52.18 | yassine | its morning :P |
| 08:52.33 | pip | I guess it is early morning ,right ? |
| 08:52.41 | swente | pip: getting noon here |
| 08:53.17 | pip | swente, so you are in Europe ? |
| 08:53.21 | swente | yes |
| 08:53.29 | pip | haha~I am in Asia |
| 08:53.39 | pip | I will have supper |
| 08:53.46 | pip | ^_^ |
| 08:53.53 | pip | Time goes fast |
| 08:55.06 | swente | indeed |
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| 09:07.38 | TomTom | hi there! how to disable the check for serializable attributes ? i dont want them to get stored between restarts |
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| 09:12.37 | swente | TomTom: speaking about sessions? |
| 09:13.27 | TomTom | swente: yes, when i store something into sessions newser versions of tomcat thow an exception because they are not serializable |
| 09:14.21 | TomTom | ahhhhhh |
| 09:14.36 | TomTom | found the solution... the application was <distributable/> |
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| 09:40.35 | pvf | testing 1 2 3 |
| 09:41.56 | swente | 'lo pvf |
| 09:49.47 | yassine | pvf, your mic is working i can confirm :P |
| 09:50.20 | swente | mmh .. but it seems he can't read us. |
| 09:51.14 | pvf | i read you loud and clear |
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| 11:49.20 | dvayanu | someone here who's a freelancer in germany? |
| 11:49.33 | swente | dvayanu: yes |
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| 12:16.43 | hula | Hi there - I'm having problems compiling jsvc on FreeBSD 6.1 |
| 12:17.30 | hula | When running configure I get the error message: "checking C flags dependant on host system type... failed" and following: "configure: error: Unsupported operating system "freebsd6.1"" |
| 12:17.46 | hula | I guess that it's something with the compiler |
| 12:18.22 | hula | ...Or some parameters that I have to pass ? |
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| 12:35.46 | Nara | hi all, I am getting outofmemory error !! how can I know why? |
| 12:35.56 | Nara | using tomcat 5.5.17 |
| 12:37.13 | hula | Nare: Do you get the error on startup or when using a web application in Tomcat |
| 12:37.16 | hula | *Nara |
| 12:38.12 | Nara | no after hours of running |
| 12:38.36 | Nara | it is running as a charm |
| 12:38.51 | Nara | but sometimes I get Outofmemroy error !!! |
| 12:39.11 | Nara | it is so confusing and I don't want my site users to see it |
| 12:39.37 | Nara | 1- is there any way to catch it and to view an error page |
| 12:39.48 | Nara | 2- how can I know what is the problem |
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| 12:43.51 | yassinework | anyone of you guys had this before : WARNING: Unexpected error forwarding to login page |
| 12:48.07 | Nara | btw I am using Linux |
| 12:48.25 | Nara | could it be the threads limit configuration for Linux OS |
| 12:48.41 | Nara | also I run the JVM win 2G of RAM |
| 12:49.52 | Nara | s/win/with/ |
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| 13:06.22 | dvayanu | nara: which kernel |
| 13:07.20 | dvayanu | yassine: josso? |
| 13:07.57 | yassinework | s/with/without |
| 13:13.03 | hula | OK Nara - are your passing the Xms and Xmx variables to Tomcat? |
| 13:24.11 | Nara | sorry I was away |
| 13:24.36 | Nara | dvayanu: 2.6.9-34.ELsmp |
| 13:25.08 | Nara | hula: sure i pass .. Xms2G |
| 13:25.22 | Nara | and Xmx2G |
| 13:25.29 | hula | lol - yeah, you should be fine ;-) |
| 13:25.39 | Nara | in the catalina.sh |
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| 13:25.47 | hula | perhaps the garbage cleaning isn't working that well? |
| 13:25.48 | dvayanu | nara: permspace |
| 13:26.24 | klaasjanb | nara: you could try to use a profiler tool such as found on www.yourkit.com (evalution is free) to check what's eating your memory |
| 13:26.25 | dvayanu | -XX:MaxPermSize=256M |
| 13:27.01 | Nara | dvayanu: mmm will it help! I don't knoe |
| 13:27.06 | dvayanu | and what is your java version |
| 13:27.06 | Nara | s/knoe/know/ |
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| 13:27.38 | Nara | java 1.5.0_07 |
| 13:28.38 | dvayanu | 64 bit? |
| 13:29.30 | Nara | no |
| 13:29.32 | Nara | 32 |
| 13:29.45 | dvayanu | nara: on 32 bit max memory a jvm can have lies at about 1.2g |
| 13:30.03 | dvayanu | nara: still increasing perm size is very important if you have many classes/jsps |
| 13:30.53 | dvayanu | we had the same kind of problem, getting OutOfMemory out of nowwhere after hours of running, and increasing the permspace helped |
| 13:31.46 | hula | max 1.2 GiB on a 32 bit system? How come? |
| 13:32.36 | dvayanu | hula: 32bit version suck |
| 13:33.12 | dvayanu | hula: it depends on os version, how much it allows you to allocate for a single process, and jvm version. but we made measurements and were never able to actually get more |
| 13:33.28 | hula | Yes, but I mean, man that sounds like an error. An taken into consideration that Java is "for the Enterprise", it sounds weird... |
| 13:33.36 | hula | Which OS was that on? |
| 13:33.47 | dvayanu | linux and windows |
| 13:33.52 | dvayanu | 2.6 kernel |
| 13:34.15 | Nara | dvayanu: okay I will try now MaxPermSize |
| 13:34.37 | hula | Was that using Sun Java? |
| 13:34.43 | dvayanu | yes |
| 13:35.06 | Nara | me too |
| 13:35.11 | Nara | Sun Java |
| 13:35.38 | hula | OK, don't know is that's different using Diablo on FreeBSD. I hope not |
| 13:36.43 | dvayanu | nara: do you have many classes and jsps? |
| 13:38.55 | Nara | dvayanu: I don't know how much is *many* but I have about 100 class and about 100 jsp |
| 13:40.55 | klaasjanb | nara: the perm memory is filled with all the classes you're using, including those from the JRE and other libraries. |
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| 13:42.44 | jochus | hello! |
| 13:42.53 | jochus | I have a small question about roles in web.xml |
| 13:43.10 | jochus | I had to add an extra that can just do a litte bit more than another role |
| 13:43.11 | jochus | so I did: |
| 13:43.29 | jochus | ( I had to add "the admin role" ) |
| 13:43.32 | jochus | <security-role> |
| 13:43.32 | jochus | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.32 | jochus | <role-name>admin</role-name> |
| 13:43.33 | jochus | </security-role> |
| 13:43.39 | jochus | and then |
| 13:44.05 | jochus | add admin to the other security constraint |
| 13:44.08 | jochus | <auth-constraint> |
| 13:44.08 | jochus | <role-name>customer</role-name> |
| 13:44.08 | jochus | <role-name>developer</role-name> |
| 13:44.08 | jochus | <role-name>admin</role-name> |
| 13:44.19 | jochus | now ... just finishing my role with it's own security constraint |
| 13:44.32 | jochus | <security-constraint> |
| 13:44.36 | jochus | <web-resource-collection> |
| 13:44.40 | jochus | <web-resource-name>repository-tool-admin</web-resource-name> |
| 13:44.44 | jochus | <url-pattern>/secure/configuration.do</url-pattern> |
| 13:44.48 | jochus | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.52 | jochus | <auth-constraint> |
| 13:44.56 | jochus | <role-name>admin</role-name> |
| 13:44.56 | jochus | </auth-constraint> |
| 13:44.56 | jochus | </security-constraint> |
| 13:44.57 | jochus | the problem is, when I now log in with my admin account |
| 13:44.57 | jochus | it says |
| 13:45.00 | jochus | HTTP Status 403 - Access to the requested resource has been denied |
| 13:45.04 | jochus | is there a way to debug? |
| 13:45.16 | jochus | because now I don't know where to search |
| 13:48.13 | hula | ok, thanks for the discussion. See you ;) |
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| 15:18.34 | yassinework | jasonb, are you around ? |
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| 15:34.58 | Nicow | hey guys... how do i change the ROOT directory on Tomcat 5.5 for windows? |
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| 15:36.03 | pvf | testing 1 2 3 |
| 15:36.17 | Nicow | ? |
| 16:19.18 | Nicow | hey guys... how do i change the ROOT directory on Tomcat 5.5 for windows? |
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| 17:37.18 | a4ak1 | hi |
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| 18:39.54 | rhizmoe | hi all |
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| 18:55.05 | harpoon | Nicow: chnage the root-dircectory?!? |
| 18:55.13 | harpoon | which root-directory |
| 18:55.35 | harpoon | the root-dir of your web-app? the places, where files are placed? |
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| 20:33.11 | yassine | wb dvayanu |
| 20:33.28 | dvayanu | ye |
| 20:33.29 | dvayanu | ah |
| 20:33.30 | yassine | hi everyone :) |
| 20:33.42 | yassine | just come in home :) |
| 20:33.54 | yassine | s/come/came |
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| 22:07.15 | lintlock | jasonb i have your book :P |
| 22:07.30 | jasonb | lintlock: Did you just get it? |
| 22:07.47 | lintlock | got it yesterday at my library |
| 22:07.53 | lintlock | havent had time to look at it though |
| 22:08.40 | jasonb | lintlock: Cool. It's getting old now, but lots of the narrative text about how things generally work is still valid and helpful. |
| 22:09.19 | lintlock | i was also looking for a velocity book |
| 22:09.34 | lintlock | .... it was available but it was missing |
| 22:11.00 | jasonb | Someone probably checked it out, read some of it, then promptly threw it in the trash. :) |
| 22:11.42 | lintlock | its not as bad as i thought |
| 22:11.52 | lintlock | session variables are now easy :) |
| 22:12.10 | pucko | I'm gonna try something and make a servlet the front of my whole webapp, all request go thru there |
| 22:12.23 | jasonb | pucko: Why not a Filter? |
| 22:12.44 | pucko | I dunno, it's not really filtering anything :) |
| 22:12.59 | pucko | just dispatching to the right jsps |
| 22:13.21 | lintlock | i did something like that |
| 22:13.29 | yassine | hi lintlock , jasonb |
| 22:13.34 | lintlock | hey yassine |
| 22:13.56 | yassine | lintlock, still on velocity ? |
| 22:13.57 | lintlock | you still writing the code for a better tomcat sso ? :) |
| 22:14.06 | yassine | :) |
| 22:14.09 | yassine | no i give up |
| 22:14.10 | lintlock | nah velocity is cake now |
| 22:14.23 | lintlock | with sessions at least |
| 22:14.30 | yassine | how comes ? |
| 22:14.51 | lintlock | oh |
| 22:15.07 | jasonb | Hi yassine |
| 22:15.21 | lintlock | most jsp understood things can be called by simply using the classname to call the variable |
| 22:16.43 | lintlock | like Session.getAttribute |
| 22:20.17 | yassine | lintlock, i just had a talk with a college who claimed velocity rocks and since i have no experience with it i could not discuss that with him, so i only told him i know some one having a lot of pain with it (you) :) |
| 22:23.48 | lintlock | i understand i more now |
| 22:26.41 | yassine | thats fine |
| 22:26.53 | yassine | i dont understand tomcat anymore |
| 22:26.54 | lintlock | i accually like it now |
| 22:26.58 | lintlock | what happened |
| 22:27.12 | yassine | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.37 | yassine | tomcat bypassing login page |
| 22:27.47 | yassine | just like that |
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| 22:29.24 | jasonb | yassine: Your colleague is wrong. |
| 22:29.24 | yassine | jasonb, i use to store my context.xml in $CATA_LINA_HOME/conf/Catalina/localhost/context.xml but when i want to redeploy that context.war tomcat delete it is there a way to avoid that ? |
| 22:29.30 | yassine | aha |
| 22:29.34 | yassine | tell me more |
| 22:29.47 | yassine | about velocity ? |
| 22:29.50 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 22:30.08 | yassine | okay i confuses things :) |
| 22:30.33 | jasonb | yassine: Are you naming your context XML fragment file "context.xml"? |
| 22:30.36 | yassine | i was wondering how could you know what we dicussed today me and my colleague :) |
| 22:31.09 | jasonb | yassine: And, no, Tomcat will keep deleting that file. If you don't like it deleting that file, either use META-INF/context.xml or put it in server.xml instead. |
| 22:31.11 | yassine | jasonb, if the applicatioon name is : myApp so i do name it myApp.xml |
| 22:31.23 | jasonb | yassine: Okay, good. |
| 22:31.42 | jasonb | I forget who it was, but I came across someone who was actually naming their context XML file "context.xml", which actually doesn't work. :) |
| 22:31.53 | jasonb | (due to a bug) |
| 22:32.11 | yassine | jasonb, in the mailing list ? |
| 22:32.34 | jasonb | yassine: I used to work where the main guy who came up with Velocity worked. :) And, over there I spent about three years using velocity, and I can tell you that it is crap. |
| 22:32.43 | jasonb | yassine: No, in this channel. |
| 22:32.48 | yassine | ahh okay |
| 22:33.08 | yassine | lintlock, quote that for your proff :P |
| 22:34.13 | jasonb | heh |
| 22:34.26 | yassine | jasonb, by this : META-INF/context.xml you mean i could deploy myApp.war with a META-INF/myApp.xml containing all my resource like datasource defenition and stuff and it will work ? |
| 22:35.15 | columbo | i need help reading a tomcat stack trace. my cpus are maxing out after a few hours and i have to restart tomcat often. |
| 22:35.22 | columbo | btw hello everyone heh |
| 22:35.42 | jasonb | Some people like velocity's syntax, but if JSPs syntax is tolerable (some argue that it isn't, but really, for almost everyone it is), then the popularity and support for JSP by far overshadows any tiny benefits velocity may offer, plus velocity has more bugs. |
| 22:36.35 | jasonb | yassine: It has to be named (exactly) "META-INF/context.xml", and it only works with some attribute values of the Host element... but yeah. |
| 22:36.48 | yassine | im using either jsps or servlets or i go and hack tomcat :P and end up crying here :) |
| 22:37.34 | yassine | jasonb, so i could define my datasource for example in the context.xml inside META-INF |
| 22:38.05 | yassine | and package my application and deploy it |
| 22:40.29 | lintlock | jasonb is the tomcat king |
| 22:45.03 | lintlock | hah |
| 22:45.11 | lintlock | i have to say jasonb |
| 22:45.19 | lintlock | i am kinda fond of velocity |
| 22:45.30 | lintlock | it has alot of stuff built into it |
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| 22:50.42 | lintlock | but ill probably hate it next week :P |
| 22:52.25 | yassine | tomcat is soooo sweeeeet :) |
| 22:52.33 | yassine | lintlock, why would you do that ?# |
| 22:52.57 | lintlock | velocity is a love hate relationship |
| 22:53.01 | lintlock | when it work you love it |
| 22:53.24 | yassine | when not you try it again :) |
| 22:53.52 | lintlock | for hours on end |
| 22:54.07 | pfn | why is tomcat so sweet? |
| 22:55.21 | pfn | I haven't considered any templating methods outside of jsp and xsl... I should one of these day... |
| 22:58.37 | lintlock | i enjoy watching others suffer trying to copy my code |
| 22:58.50 | lintlock | it would take you well over 4k pages :) |
| 22:58.54 | yassine | pfn, hi first |
| 22:58.55 | lintlock | of content |
| 22:59.11 | yassine | pfn, its sween when it works |
| 22:59.19 | yassine | s/sween/sweet |
| 23:05.48 | lintlock | yeah |
| 23:05.54 | lintlock | SSO is just evil though |
| 23:08.08 | lintlock | sso even when it properly works causes babies to cry |
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| 23:23.02 | lintlock | yay |
| 23:23.05 | lintlock | yassine got owned |
| 23:23.51 | yel | yoy |
| 23:24.16 | yassine | lintlock, now im back :) |
| 23:24.48 | lintlock | hah i see |
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