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00:02.54AnKaP-NiCkHi all
00:04.02AnKaP-NiCkI'm trying to set up jsp application to run on Apache 2.2 trought tomcat 5.5 or 6 can anybody please help me ?
00:05.27AnKaP-NiCkanybody here ?
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00:09.52AnKaP-NiCkSo I guess noone uses tomcat ? what are you doing in this channel guys ?
00:09.59AnKaP-NiCk:)
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01:22.46pfnaway-AnKaP-NiCk, you need to learn how to read channel topics
01:23.34away-AnKaP-NiCkyea
01:23.50away-AnKaP-NiCkI think it can't help me in this case pfn
01:24.21pfnTomcat logs before you attempt to find an answer. SLOW MOTION CHANNEL (we all have jobs): Ask your question, including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back often for answers.
01:24.40pfnyou obviously didn't do that
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01:28.06away-AnKaP-NiCkos is Slackware 10.2 tomcat is 6.0.* latest apache 2.2.* latest java is sdk 1.4.3_13 in logs I can't find anything interesting
01:29.54pfnyou aren't describing your problem or question
01:30.05pfnhow can we help you if you are unable to communicate what is wrong?
01:30.30away-AnKaP-NiCkok ... can I write site names here ?
01:31.42away-AnKaP-NiCkanyway I have virtual host called mybidcentral.com doc root for this is /home/sites/test
01:32.07away-AnKaP-NiCki have loaded jk2_mod
01:32.29away-AnKaP-NiCkim workers2.propertires it seems averything is ok ...
01:33.18away-AnKaP-NiCktomcat is running with <host=mybidcentral.com appbase=/home/sites/test
01:34.54away-AnKaP-NiCkbut when I wisit mybitcentral.com, I get there tomcat main site like i'm visiting localhost:8080 and when I visit mybidcentral.com/jsp it reads from /home/sites/test/jsp dir and anything is working
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01:43.34away-AnKaP-NiCkso ?
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03:17.55ramza3anybody seen this before.
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03:18.31ramza3I am trying to use taglibs 2.0 and web app (web.xml) 2.3?
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03:44.08revhi! quick question about HTTPS/SSL and tomcat... i'm trying to get our app, which runs on a linux+apache+tomcat+postgres setup for production, running on my OS X laptop.  not surprisingly, it uses HTTPS left and right.  my question is- if apache is used as the webserver, does tomcat know anything about the SSL layer involved?
03:45.05lykenhmm
03:45.10lykenhow are you linking apache and tomcat?
03:45.16lykenproxy or jk?
03:46.56revwell, i'm not 100% off the top of my head- i'm new to tomcat and am a drop in replacement for another person... i can check. but i'm trying to get away using just the built-in tomcat server on my laptop. AFAI can tell we don't use any apache-ish stuff-= it's all routed through one magic servlet
03:46.58revlemme check
03:49.36lykentomcat isn't in osx by default
03:49.39lykenonly jboss is
03:49.49lykenand it uses tomcat as the servlet/jsp containt
03:49.55lykenand its really old version
03:50.04revi have tomcat insetalleda nd running
03:50.06revthat isn't the issue
03:50.32revusing tomcat's builtin web server
03:50.57lykenre-reading your first statement
03:51.23lykenyour setup on the lpatop is somethign along the lines of tomcat + pg + built in apache?
03:51.48revwell, the setup on the laptop is now tomcat + pg + tomcat's http server, leaving apache out of the mix
03:52.05revtomcat comes with its own web server, something not fancy and not for serious production
03:52.23lykenyeah i know
03:52.25revbut for dev testing it'd be fine, performance wise
03:52.29lykenyer
03:52.33lykenit'll work just dandy
03:52.42revbut the issue is the use of SSL everywhere
03:52.47lykenyer
03:52.55lykenwell id just ssl'afy the tomcat box
03:52.58lykenand run everything via ssl
03:53.24lykenim not sure if tomcat gets the uri passed through from apache about ssl
03:53.31lykenit is dependant on how they setup apache and tomcat to talk
03:53.40revhere's where my ignorance shows; my knowledge of SSL is very shaky- i can't be tied to one IP, because this machine is getting a new IP all the time
03:53.40lykenwhether its mod_jk or mod_proxy
03:53.50revi'll go try to suss that one, one sec
03:54.05lykenbut i think, unless its tomcat-ssl it is unaware
03:54.24revso i could just change all the http requests to https and it should stil work?
03:55.05lykenthat i am unsure of :/
03:55.17lykenssl is that lovely vauge bit of my knowledge
03:55.21revyeah
03:55.22lykeni only do apache ssl or tomcat ssl
03:55.26lykendont do much passthrough between them
03:56.39revok
03:57.40lykena postgres user that isn't in the postgres chan thats a first..
03:57.55revheh, well, i'm not having issues with postgres at all
03:58.33revto tell the truth, i'm really an OODBMS + Smalltalk guy and they hired me based on my knowledge of their kind of data model and some other things rather than specific PG/tomcat/java experience
03:58.34rev;P
03:58.59lykenheh
03:59.08lykenoodbms, which server do you use for that?
03:59.47revgenerally GemStone/S or Magma (for Squeak)
04:00.01revi've only dabbled with GOODS
04:01.03lyken*nods*
04:01.03revi've been playing around with db4o for java for freezing objects to look at later when i've run into some funky problem
04:01.03lykenoodbms has intrigued me for a while
04:01.04lykenjust no one willing to pay me to learn it hehe
04:01.31revthat's the great thing about a lot of OODBMSs- you don't have to learn much more than what you already know in java
04:02.09revat least with the two ones i use in smalltalk, some OODBMS are quite different, there isn't any fancy query language, you're just dealing with objects  transparently as if they were on your system, but with transaction supported added
04:02.45revso, generally, in addition to a line or two of code bracketing what you are trying to commit, the rest is regular smalltalk
04:03.12revnot sure if there are oodbms that are that nice for java, but i'd hope so... db4o for java is pretty nice, but not quite *that* nice, but still easy as pie
04:03.48lykencools
04:05.41revyeah, it is pretty amazing
04:06.01lykeni need to get out of academia ive been at uni too long
04:06.20revpart of it is faciliated by the kind of collections libraries you have in smalltalk plus the closure functionality ... like, you just do something like this to find a person named "lyken" instead of fancy sql
04:07.10rev(DB at: #Root) select: [ :person | person name = 'lyken' ].
04:07.25lykenvery ruby on rails approach heh
04:07.45lykenso its almost like an abstraction layer but not?
04:07.45revwhich is the same thing oyu'd do to find the person object with the name lyken if you had a collection on your hands, replacing (DB at: #Root) wit the variable name of the collection
04:07.58lyken*nods*
04:08.03revwell, where do you think RoR got it in the first place? :)
04:08.11lykenhehe, exactly :)
04:09.24lykentoo many geeks work too many hours i say
04:11.27revain't that the truth :)
04:20.38revi only work a healthy 40-45 hours a week... cna't imagine pulling 60-80+ weeks
04:21.07revi used to go to college full time and work 50 hours a week and that was hell on earth, never want to see that again, even if i'm getting paid for it all :P
04:26.52revwell, lyken  i appreciate the help... i ended up just setting up SSL for the builtin tomcat web server
04:27.02revit wasn't hard at all, not sure why i just didn't do it in the first place! :P
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10:28.33shinmazhi there
10:28.43shinmazhi
10:28.53shinmazcan i ask you a question about mod_jk for apache ?
10:30.03lykenyou can ask it
10:30.11lykenif you're lucky someone might be able to help
10:30.17lykenbut most of us avoid mod_jk use
10:31.11shinmazwhy ?
10:31.23lykencause its a pain to use, configure and debug
10:31.33shinmazis there any way to get the real Client information into Java without it ?
10:31.46lykenmod proxy?
10:31.52shinmazWhile using ProxyPass directives for instance you cant get the real Client IP Adresse etc .....
10:31.56shinmazam i right ?
10:32.02lykeni dont see why not
10:32.23shinmazyou ll see the IP Adress of the Apache Host connecting to the Tomcat engine ....
10:32.32shinmaznot the browser IP
10:32.39shinmazthis is not a question, this is an affirmation
10:32.43shinmaz:)
10:32.54lykendepends on which funtion call you make
10:32.59shinmaz?
10:33.24shinmazHTTPSession.GetAddress or something like that !
10:33.39shinmazThe J2EE Function exposing the browser Address simply ...
10:33.44shinmazfor HTTPSession
10:35.06lykeni know its possible
10:35.08lykeni have done it
10:35.11lykenjust not in about 2yrs
10:35.24shinmazmmmmm
10:35.35shinmazCan you send me the code if you still have it ?
10:35.45lykenthats what im looking for
10:35.49shinmazty
10:35.52lykenseems i dont have it, and i shouldn't have it actually heh
10:36.05shinmaz:(
10:36.07shinmazik
10:36.25lykenbut give me a few
10:36.28lykeni might have something else for ya
10:37.43lykencan't find it
10:37.47lykenand all my reference mans are at work
10:38.02lykenif you hang around other europeans should be awake soon enough
10:38.59shinmazHttpServletRequest.getRemoteAddress Give the IP of Apache and not the IP of the Web browser while not usgin mod_jk !
10:39.10shinmazi just give it a try
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10:48.24Hugh_<shinmaz> is there any way to get the real Client information into Java without it [mod_jk]? <- yes, mod_proxy adds a X-Forwarded-For http header that contains the original IP address
10:48.55Hugh_not sure whether it overwrites or augments an existing X-Forwarded-For header if one was passed though
10:50.15shinmazok
10:50.19shinmazty for the hint !
10:51.30shinmazBut thats not standard and as a company, some of our client works with some other engine than Tomcat, like Weblogic or WebSphere !
10:51.32shinmaz:)
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11:20.31Hugh_it's a problem that any servlet container will have if you are using it behind mod_proxy
11:20.46lykenyup
11:21.29Hugh_i don't know what your product is, but you probably want to leave it up to the admin to sort out, or provide some mod_proxy compatability option that uses the other header
11:21.36lykenyer
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14:42.25lemao_Hi. I have an html page that is rendered correctly if I serve it directly from Tomcat but is rendered as text if served from Apache+mod. Any ideas?
14:43.19lemao_The browser shows text/html when served directly by tomcat and text/plain when served by Apache+mod_jk+Tomcat
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14:55.51Tomassohow do i deploy an application using linux
14:56.31Tomassothe easiest way
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15:10.37mfroesdo anyone knows how to develop a java based network speed test ?
15:11.13wammfroes: define "network speed test"
15:11.45mfroeswam: upload/download rates and packet loss
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15:43.37loris_pi have a problem with my first application using tomcat
15:44.06loris_pi wrote 3 java classes and put it into WEB-INF/classes
15:44.36loris_pthen i wrote a page index.jsp and put it into application root
15:44.59loris_pin this page i need to use some objects from the 3 classes
15:45.42loris_pbut when i try to use them the server tells me that can't resolv class x like a type
15:45.53loris_pwhat am i forgetting?
15:55.41loris_pplease can someone help me? i read a lot of documentation but i didn't find what i need..
16:10.10randrewloris_p: are the classes in packages?
16:10.49loris_pno
16:10.54loris_pthey're .class
16:12.00loris_pnow it's seems to work..
16:12.07loris_pi don't know why
16:12.12loris_pi did nothing :)
16:12.47loris_panother question: do i always have to write web.xml file?
16:13.16loris_p(my classes don't produce html and aren't servlet)
16:13.28randrewyes, web.xml is required by the spec
16:14.05loris_puhm ok..and what i write into it if i haven't any servlet? (jsp pages use classes)
16:16.11randrew<web-app xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee"
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16:17.04loris_poh thanks :D
16:17.10randrew: )
16:17.34randreweverything's optional, look at the examples w/binary dist
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16:45.47loris_pbye
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17:23.18scerraHi,
17:23.19scerraI'd like to make the users administration of my applications in batch mode :
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17:24.50scerraMy build.xml :
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17:25.28scerraThe result :
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17:25.34talleywow. you never heard of www.rafb.net/paste ?
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17:25.39scerraThanks for answers.
17:30.22scerrasorry, newbie in irc !
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17:42.54DenFI have 2 cluster members, both using Tomcat 5.5 on Solaris 10. I have a webapp deployed on both, and can start up the two servers fine. The webapp is able to sync both together. However, when I shutdown one of the server, it would take forever to shutdown, and my webapp continues to spit out sync errors in the log file (not in the server log). I have waited hours, and the log continues to grow, but the server does not shutdown unless I manually kill the
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17:51.47DenFcontinuing from above: the process. Is this a problem with my webapp, or is there something wrong in my Tomcat setting? Feel free to give me a PM.
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20:38.21glen_quagmirecan I know the host name from .war file ?
20:38.42glen_quagmirei have a java class in war file. and i need to do something based on the host address.
20:38.55glen_quagmireif .war is deployed in a.com, i want to get "a.com"
20:39.58Andreaglen_quagmire: request.getServerName()
20:40.22glen_quagmirethanks
20:42.12Andreaanyone knows where I can find the request URL, inside a jsp responding as an error-page (e.g. HTTP error 404)
20:42.27Andrea?
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20:59.01michaelhallo maybe someone of you can give me a little help. I need to extract from an X509 certificate (x509=X509Certificate.getInstance(anInputStream)) the public key (x509.getPublicKey()). This return an instance of class sun.security.x509.X509Key. I know that the certificates public key is an ECPublicKey (Elliptic Curve PK). But how can i get access to the actual ECPublicKey object, a simple cast from X509Key to ECPublicKey fails. I now this question is n
20:59.02michaelot specific to tomcat development but i think you know about the java security apis. great thx in advance!
21:05.06Andreamichael: did you tried to inspect the Object tye returned ?
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21:12.18LiquidGhow do i upgrade to tomcat native 1.1.2 if i'm on 1.1.1?  I've d/l'ed the zip, no clue where/what to do with it
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21:15.09AndreaLiquidG: you really mean Tomcat version 1.x ?
21:15.33Andreaare you shure? on the TC website I can see supported 3.x and later..
21:15.41Andreashure = sure
21:16.36AndreaI guess you mean TC version 3.3.2 (JSP 1.1)
21:17.35LiquidGAndrea: i've d/l'ed tomcat 5.5.16 (a pre-req for a custom app), and from the tomcat site it recommends upgrading from tomcat native 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 (1.1.1 comes with tomcat 5.5.16)
21:18.16LiquidGand i have not clue what tomcat native 1.1.1 is :) ... i just do what the release notes tell me to
21:18.18AndreaLiquidG: oh, I see. I stop where version 5 starts.. sorry.
21:19.19LiquidGAndrea: thanks anyway ... i'll dig around some more ... i'm hoping here is an exe so that i don't have to recompile anything
21:20.12michaelyes it is an X509Key class
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21:22.21LiquidGmichael: if i'm not authenticating against anything (this is for a dev box), will it matter if i stay on native 1.1.1 and not upgrade?
21:30.34Andreamichael: I can't find X509Key, just X509Certificate (a container) or X509EncodedKeySpec
21:31.11michael<PROTECTED>
21:31.29michaelSystem.out.println(pubkey.getClass()); gives me this classname
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21:32.18AnKaP-NiCkHi
21:32.36AnKaP-NiCkanyone can help me with java classes ? I get this error for my client site corticalx.cx_pos.main.SystemAttributes
21:33.34AnKaP-NiCkorg.apache.jasper.JasperException: javax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class corticalx.cx_pos.main.SystemAttributes
21:34.11AnKaP-NiCkHow can I solve this ? where to download and what to download ... please
21:34.45AnKaP-NiCkUSING Slack 10.2 and TOMCAT 6.0.2
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21:41.12A10nHi, I'm using tomcat 5.5.x, and I want to create my own connector and setup my server.xml file to open up multiple ports with some using the Http connector and some using a different connector. Is this possible?  I noticed that for tomcat 4, you were able to specify a className in the <connector> tag, but I don't see it anymore in tomcat 5.5.x. Thanks for the hle
21:41.41Andreamichael: I can't go further with the sun.* hierarchy as I can't find docs. Did you already tried with what's in java.security.cert.* ?
21:42.26michaeli'm currently searching the api for any examples or something
21:42.43michaelbut it does not look good
21:42.58AnKaP-NiCkHi all
21:43.08michaelthe java security api is a litte weird
21:43.30AndreaAnKaP-NiCk: I think you're searching for something created upon a commercial sw: http://www.corticalx.com/services.html Just guessing (better, googling ;)
21:44.03AnKaP-NiCkAndrea thank you , googling couldn't help me :)
21:45.15AnKaP-NiCkAndrea do you think they were writing their own java class libraries for hosting ?
21:45.25michaelthx for the help cu
21:46.06AnKaP-NiCkKinda I can not use their application on another hosting after quiting contract with them ?
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21:47.43AnKaP-NiCkAndrea can you plase have a look at the application source ? may be you can help me to substitute their classes with others ?
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22:14.54pfndon't use silly autoaway scripts
22:16.41jasonbpfn: You don't do lots of silly things that newbies do.  :)
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22:17.43pfnof course, but we're not newbies
22:19.20jasonbIf only we were newbies..
22:19.42jasonbJust think how silly we could be!
22:25.47jasonbHmm, if one has a 2D array (in Java) and does int x = arrayName.length; then does x equal the size of the first dimension always?  Or, what?
22:26.19pfnthat's a legitimate question?
22:26.32pfnthe answer is yes
22:26.38jasonbOkay.
22:26.53jasonbThanks.  I thought so.  I was too lazy to google about it.
22:27.07jasonbThat's one of those questions that is likely to be hard to google & get the answer.
22:31.56pfnwell, now that I learned xsl-fo, I think I'm going to rewrite my resume pdf
22:32.03pfninstead of using the default sean kelly template
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22:36.25A10nwhere do i download the source code for org.apache.coyote ?
22:36.33jasonbheh
22:36.40jasonbIn ASF svn?
22:36.50A10nUrl please?
22:38.29pfnit should be quite trivial to find
22:38.37pfnas well, there are source tarballs of tomcat
22:39.07A10nI have tomcat source code, but it doesn't have org.apache.coyote code
22:39.25jasonbA10n: It's in the Tomcat connectors src release.
22:39.54jasonb(tomcat.apache.org is slow right now)
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22:40.08jasonbhttp://tomcat.apache.org/download-connectors.cgi
22:40.18A10nokay, I wasn't sure about that
22:40.27A10nyou know, typing svn.apache.org shouldn't be so hard
22:41.09pfnyou're assuming it's something we know off the top of our heads
22:41.18pfnwhich may or may not be the case
22:41.37A10n<pfn> it should be quite trivial to find
22:41.41A10n<jasonb> In ASF svn?
22:41.59A10ni was thinking apache.sourceforge.com
22:41.59pfnI don't know where it is, I know it's trivial to find
22:42.01A10npffff
22:42.06A10nwell thanks for the help.
22:42.15pfnand ASF svn isn't sourceforge
22:42.38A10nwell that is what I thought ASF stood for. Apache Source Forge instead of Apache Software Foundation
22:42.50jasonbThe URL I gave doesn't work somehow?
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22:43.20A10nit probably does, I havne't tried it yet, but I have came accross that page already.
22:43.23jasonbApache Source Forge!  Hey, that's a neat idea..
22:44.03A10nheh...
22:44.48A10njasonb, there isn't an svn repo for the connectors?
22:45.00jasonbA whole svn repo for just that?
22:45.43A10nI'm sure developrs who make the connectors use svn...
22:45.56jasonbThey do.
22:46.53jasonbA10n: Hmm, so the "SVN Repositories" link that is right on the Tomcat home page didn't work for you somehow either?
22:48.18A10nno, its hard to find it when i'm using brial
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22:50.27jasonbbrial = your hands over your eyes?
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22:54.44A10nwhat? I can't read that :P
22:54.58A10nwell thanks for the help, I have to make a custom connector/protocol to do some things
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23:12.07pfnbrial = braille?
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