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| 02:00.10 | fowlduck | i'm gonna cry |
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| 02:01.34 | yassine | good night all |
| 02:04.41 | fowlduck | nooooo |
| 03:46.51 | seevash | http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/02/protest_1.html |
| 04:27.07 | lyken | heh |
| 04:53.21 | seevash | lyken, Remember we talked about the over-commercialization of Asian cultures? |
| 04:53.24 | seevash | http://adzilla.blogspot.com/2007/02/japan-subway-ad.html |
| 04:53.56 | lyken | i wouldnt call it that |
| 04:54.02 | lyken | id just call it 'asian culture' heh |
| 04:54.28 | seevash | Well, I don't recall Japan being like that back in 50's. |
| 04:54.46 | seevash | So this is something that has been introduced to the "culture" in the last 4 decades. |
| 04:55.56 | lyken | err |
| 04:56.05 | lyken | thats a pretty bad comparison |
| 04:56.16 | lyken | lots changes quickly |
| 04:56.25 | lyken | and the asian culture of all that fast, gimmicky stuff is what they're all about |
| 04:56.37 | lyken | its got western influences |
| 04:56.49 | lyken | but is fueled by their own wants |
| 04:56.57 | seevash | Yes, except that they can crunch information faster that we do. :) |
| 04:57.51 | lyken | ive seen a lot of this kinda stuff in japan when i was there last |
| 04:58.00 | lyken | china and taiwan is much the same |
| 04:59.30 | seevash | Right, but just as public transporation is an equivalent of our car-ownership culture, imagine all these ads were right in your face as you drive to work/school... |
| 04:59.48 | lyken | its not equivalent at all |
| 04:59.54 | lyken | its a completely different culture |
| 04:59.58 | lyken | with different values and focus |
| 05:00.09 | lyken | you can't just compare western to eastern it doesnt work like that |
| 05:00.10 | lyken | and never will |
| 05:00.40 | lyken | you can try and find similiarities but most are adoptions from east to west or vice versa |
| 05:00.53 | seevash | Hah, I don't disagree with that, I'm just saying if their culture was imported here, there would be a whole generation of people seeking professional help in psycheatric hospitals. |
| 05:01.37 | lyken | go live in it for a whiles |
| 05:01.45 | lyken | you'll either adjust or hate it heh |
| 05:02.33 | seevash | I'm the worst guy to experience on because I do adjust to all circumstances. |
| 05:02.49 | lyken | same |
| 05:02.54 | seevash | I'm sort of a cultural-wuss. |
| 05:04.03 | lyken | well adjusting is a good thing |
| 05:04.13 | lyken | if you can adjust you can expeience the culture easily |
| 05:05.07 | seevash | I value cultural differences but can't stand nationality and worse than that patriotism. |
| 05:06.15 | seevash | Anyway, my CSS streaking week has ended last night and I'm on my way to take on DB now. |
| 05:06.29 | lyken | i find value in uniting to a common understanding but zealots and extreme patriotism shits me |
| 05:08.03 | lyken | gag me with ours |
| 05:08.10 | jasonb | heh |
| 05:08.11 | lyken | its wrong now they found more stars in the southern cross LOL |
| 05:08.23 | lyken | i find it funny that americans discovered it |
| 05:08.33 | jasonb | discovered what? |
| 05:08.45 | lyken | that our secret southern cross has 3 more stars |
| 05:09.03 | seevash | What is the Southern Cross? |
| 05:09.05 | lyken | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_cross |
| 05:09.16 | lyken | err its like the southern hemispheres 'northern light' |
| 05:09.58 | jasonb | :) |
| 05:10.11 | lyken | anywho up until a week ago |
| 05:10.12 | seevash | For a second I thought you were referring to the confederate flag. :) |
| 05:10.24 | lyken | it was only seen to have 5 stars |
| 05:10.28 | lyken | they found 3 more |
| 05:10.46 | lyken | i bet we've known about it for years but didnt want to mention it cause our flag would be wrong lol |
| 05:10.49 | jasonb | lyken: I'm sure Hubble could find even more over there.. there are zillions of stars anywhere one looks. |
| 05:11.07 | lyken | jasonb: but these 3 extra's are sctually part of that cluster |
| 05:11.28 | jasonb | lyken: Are any of them visible with the naked eye though? If not, then no biggy. |
| 05:11.38 | lyken | dont think so |
| 05:11.47 | lyken | good point |
| 05:13.16 | seevash | You know, as a 5-year-old, I used to think stars were snow flakes that only descend at nights. |
| 05:13.41 | lyken | heh |
| 05:13.43 | seevash | It was for a while a mystery to me why it'd take forever for them to reach the roof top of our home. |
| 05:14.32 | jasonb | silly silly. They reach it all the time. |
| 05:14.49 | seevash | Ya, their lights. |
| 05:15.20 | seevash | You know, jasonb, you are up for some heavy duty 3-year-old questions I am sure. |
| 05:15.34 | jasonb | It would be kinda bad if those stars _actually_ came down on your roof! |
| 05:16.00 | seevash | I was expecting them to stay small. |
| 05:16.03 | jasonb | seevash: Heh.. yeah. It will be fun to answer, I think. |
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| 08:56.03 | eatThisAndDie | guys, i'm using tomcat 5.5.20 with Java 5 on fedora 6, i know i can copy or ln -s a .war file into webapps and it will expand. But How can i do the same in a webapps subfolder? |
| 08:58.47 | jasonb | You probably can't. But, I haven't tried. I seem to remember seeing something written saying you couldn't, but the only way to confirm it is to try it (which I've guessed you have). |
| 08:59.26 | jasonb | Instead of symlinking the webapps/ dir, why don't you change your <Host>'s appBase to a different path? |
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| 09:11.02 | eatThisAndDie | um..... how DO i change the appbase? |
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| 09:12.14 | samy | hi, I'm using tomcat 5.5.17.0, java 1.6.0-b105 on Linux |
| 09:12.25 | samy | i can't start the server... |
| 09:12.34 | samy | the only open port is 8009 |
| 09:16.16 | samy | ? |
| 09:17.00 | eatThisAndDie | samy: look in conf/server.xml look for Connector |
| 09:17.07 | samy | i did |
| 09:17.14 | eatThisAndDie | whats the port address? |
| 09:19.02 | samy | i have cannectors defined on 8180, 8443, 8009 and 8082 |
| 09:19.13 | samy | but the only one i see is 8009 |
| 09:19.24 | samy | (through nmap) |
| 09:20.43 | eatThisAndDie | check the server.xml again. I |
| 09:20.54 | eatThisAndDie | i'm sure some of the connectors are commented out |
| 09:23.09 | samy | nope 8180 is not |
| 09:23.35 | samy | i also have apache installed, can it interfere? |
| 09:25.58 | eatThisAndDie | not unless its on the same port |
| 09:26.07 | eatThisAndDie | dont use nmap. Use netstat -l |
| 09:27.13 | samy | great! |
| 09:27.28 | samy | how come nmap doesn't see it? |
| 09:27.51 | eatThisAndDie | did u specify the port in nmap? |
| 09:28.01 | eatThisAndDie | u gotta do something like nmap -p8180 |
| 09:30.25 | samy | usualy i do nmap localhost, and it scans all the ports... |
| 09:31.25 | eatThisAndDie | no, it scans the usual standard ports. 8180 is not a standard port. |
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| 13:10.32 | samy | hi, it's me again. I have trouble with my "scratchDir" |
| 13:10.51 | samy | at server launch I get unusable parameter |
| 13:39.40 | randrew | samy: what's the error |
| 13:39.40 | samy | in the log i get error messages |
| 13:39.41 | samy | i don't even know what is the scratchdir |
| 13:39.41 | samy | and when i try to start sample jsp it dosn't work... |
| 13:39.41 | samy | apparently with the jsp servlet |
| 13:40.04 | randrew | try searching: site:tomcat.apache.org scratchdir |
| 13:40.55 | samy | yeah, I found an entry in web.xml, but it's an optional parameter and in my web.xml it is not set |
| 13:41.56 | samy | it seems to be related with the work directory, since in the error messages i get inexistant paths... |
| 13:42.55 | randrew | The default is $CATALINA_HOME/work. That needs to be a writeable directory. That's where the .java and .class files from jsp processing gets written. |
| 13:58.02 | samy | thx. But now I have a ClassNotFound: org.apache.jasper.tagplugins.jstl.If |
| 13:58.29 | samy | but my class path is set correctly: /usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/jsp-api.jar:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/servlet-api.jar |
| 14:15.28 | samy | ok I found that the class "org.apache.jasper.tagplugins.jstl.If" should be in the jasper-compiler.jar archive, but in mine it's located in a core sub-package... how come? |
| 14:15.54 | samy | "org.apache.jasper.tagplugins.jstl.core.If" |
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| 16:07.04 | dubane | Hi, I`ve installed tomcat5.5.20 on debian with java 1.5. I`m running it from eclipse and it looks good, but only a blank page appears on localhost:8180. There are nothing in the logs. What am I doing wrond? |
| 16:07.38 | lyken | check the class path, try and run it without eclipse |
| 16:07.55 | lyken | and is it 8180? |
| 16:07.58 | lyken | cause tomcat default is 8080 |
| 16:10.54 | dubane | Thank you. Got a little more info when starting it manually: JDWP exit error JVMTI_ERROR_INTERNAL(113): No transports initializedFATAL ERROR in native method: JDWP No transports initialized, jvmtiError=JVMTI_ERROR_INTERNAL(113) |
| 16:11.02 | dubane | Yes it is 8180 |
| 16:14.41 | lyken | yer no idea inside eclipse sorry |
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| 16:24.20 | Snake007uk | hello all :) |
| 16:29.20 | Snake007uk | Got a problem not sure if it is common or not, we have an issue where we have 2 * apache servers which are load balancing via mod_jk (round robbin) (we are not using sticky sessions), we have 4 * Tomcat server. The apache servers have 200 sessions each, and the tomcat thread pool for each server is set to 200. The database servers are two oracle servers. We are having issues were all of a sudden all the threads on one box (random which one it could |
| 16:29.20 | Snake007uk | be) decided to use up all its thread pool allocation and the other 3 * tomcat server sit idling? Why doesn’t the round robbin continue onto the others? Has anyone had similar issues? Any ideas as to what could be done? |
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| 16:49.12 | Torey | my quick question: (: |
| 16:51.09 | Torey | I have server A running apache and mod_jk and named virtual hosts. I have Server B for tomcat servers. If server A has http://localhost:8080/foo and server B wants to map all request for http://www.foo.com/ to server A's http://localhost:8080/foo, should I use a URLReweite? (e.g. how do I jkmount a servlet to / on a remote box?) |
| 17:10.27 | Snake007uk | no one had an issue like that before?? |
| 17:10.43 | Torey | like what? |
| 17:10.52 | Torey | the one I just asked? |
| 17:10.54 | Torey | (: |
| 17:16.18 | Snake007uk | no the one i asked :p |
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| 17:17.45 | zambaboo | Snake007uk, that's interesting |
| 17:18.37 | zambaboo | even though we use different software for load balancing, we do have oracle in the back end |
| 17:19.14 | zambaboo | Snake007uk, we've seen something like what you describe |
| 17:19.29 | Snake007uk | hmmm |
| 17:19.30 | zambaboo | it is usually caused by a lock on the login table |
| 17:19.38 | Snake007uk | initial our thread pool count was 100 |
| 17:19.48 | Snake007uk | but we increased to 200 thinking that may have been the cause |
| 17:19.57 | Snake007uk | but we just had the issue happen again today. |
| 17:20.04 | Snake007uk | just one host gets hammerd? |
| 17:20.16 | zambaboo | oh hm |
| 17:20.19 | zambaboo | are those sessions active? |
| 17:21.08 | Snake007uk | what do u mean by active? sticky? no they are not sticky |
| 17:21.42 | zambaboo | Torey, i dont see a problem there. worker.properties lets you configure what worker runs on which host. and you go from there. |
| 17:21.44 | zambaboo | Snake007uk, no |
| 17:21.58 | Snake007uk | ? |
| 17:21.59 | zambaboo | Snake007uk, i mean, are people able to use that host, log in, use the app. |
| 17:22.14 | zambaboo | Snake007uk, or does it spike sessions that are essentially dead. |
| 17:22.16 | Snake007uk | well we can ssh to the host... but the its not an app as such |
| 17:22.19 | zambaboo | nono |
| 17:22.20 | Snake007uk | its an api |
| 17:22.30 | Snake007uk | well runing jconsole |
| 17:23.09 | zambaboo | find out if the sessions are alive |
| 17:23.09 | Snake007uk | how would i do that?> |
| 17:23.10 | zambaboo | meaning that session == user |
| 17:23.10 | zambaboo | gah |
| 17:23.10 | Snake007uk | well they seem to be waiting? |
| 17:23.17 | Snake007uk | i think, atleast apaches start backing up fast |
| 17:23.51 | zambaboo | well for example we have a lil jsp here that tells us how old a session is and how long has it been idle. that sorta shows you whether a session is active or not. |
| 17:24.39 | Snake007uk | hmm |
| 17:24.50 | Snake007uk | got to ask the devs? |
| 17:25.47 | zambaboo | i'd do that, yeah. :) |
| 17:25.50 | Snake007uk | zambaboo, have u read this |
| 17:25.51 | Snake007uk | http://web.mac.com/algesten/iWeb/algesten/algesten's%20world%20of%20pain/FD8C362E-B1AE-4BFD-8C52-BF36CD36C25F.html |
| 17:26.01 | zambaboo | mac.com? prolly not. |
| 17:26.02 | zambaboo | :) |
| 17:30.13 | Snake007uk | forget mac.com |
| 17:30.16 | Snake007uk | just read it |
| 17:30.25 | Snake007uk | its more or less the exact problem |
| 17:36.40 | zambaboo | hm, but this guy has two older machines and that seems to be the root cause |
| 17:38.47 | Snake007uk | yeah but its the same problem i have and i thought it could have been a queing issue, as everytime we have had issues its been a different machine |
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| 18:59.56 | sknight | hey all. I'm running Tomcat 5.5.20 on Debian 4.0 (etch, kernel 2.6.18) w/ JDK 1.5.0.10. I notice that when I deploy my applications, I get a TON of extraneous logfiles in $CATALINA_BASE/logs for things like "localhost_access_log", "host-manager" "admin" and "manager". How do I go about disabling those logs, but leaving catalina.out and my application's log? |
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| 20:07.05 | yassine | hi everyone * |
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| 20:44.43 | jieryn | yo |
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| 21:18.12 | zambaboo | hi all |
| 21:18.18 | zambaboo | jbalint, ah! there you are :) |
| 21:19.54 | jbalint | hi yassine , jieryn , zambaboo |
| 21:20.24 | yassine | heyyyyy jbalint how are you doing :) long time not been here |
| 21:21.02 | jbalint | i'm am ok. go around to diff channels at diff times :D |
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| 21:22.41 | roue | hola |
| 21:22.45 | jbalint | hi |
| 21:25.04 | roue | I'm running tomcat 5.5.20 through apache 2.2.4's mod_proxy (ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse ajp://localhost:8009 etc) under JDK 1.6 on Debian Linux (4.0, etch, testing). Everything works, but something odd is happening. If my url ends without a file extension (/some/path/ instead of /some/path/index.html) apache serves it up without a Content-Type text/html and so it comes out as text/html. Any ideas why that would be and how I can fix it? thanks. |
| 21:31.51 | jieryn | heya jb :) |
| 22:13.17 | roue | okay, here's another question. same environment I outlined above. |
| 22:14.52 | roue | If I proxypass /tomcat ajp://localhost:8009 then the tomcat admin and manager apps break. They change the path to /manager or /admin and it should be /tomcat/manager /tomcat/admin . I've looked in ROOT/WEB_INF/web.xml but don't see what to change. |
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| 22:35.15 | Aeris_ | hi all! |
| 22:35.27 | Aeris_ | i have a big problem with my tomcat server |
| 22:35.40 | Aeris_ | i can't access the admin page |
| 22:35.48 | Aeris_ | error HTTP 5003 |
| 22:36.11 | Aeris_ | somebody could help me? |
| 22:36.30 | Aeris_ | I use tomcat 5.5 on debian etch |
| 22:36.46 | Aeris_ | with java 1.5.0_10 |
| 22:38.38 | Aeris_ | my catalina log -> http://pastebin.ca/352575 |
| 22:42.44 | roue | Aeris_ have you installed the admin package? |
| 22:42.53 | Aeris_ | yes of course :p |
| 22:43.25 | roue | are you running tomcat through apache httpdthrough proxypass or mod_ajp? |
| 22:43.37 | Aeris_ | no, in standalone mode |
| 22:43.54 | Aeris_ | when I try to go on the admin page, blank page first time |
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| 22:44.10 | Aeris_ | and error page in second time |
| 22:44.18 | roue | what version of tomcat? |
| 22:44.22 | Aeris_ | 5.5.20 |
| 22:44.35 | roue | I'm running the exact same setup except jdk 1.6 |
| 22:44.58 | roue | can you go over how you did the install from the jdk through tomcat itself? |
| 22:45.17 | Aeris_ | with apt-get |
| 22:45.28 | roue | ah. |
| 22:45.39 | Aeris_ | java and jdk in first |
| 22:45.43 | roue | I usually download the tar files directly from jakarta.apache.org |
| 22:45.44 | Aeris_ | tomcat after |
| 22:45.51 | roue | tomcat from apt-get? |
| 22:45.55 | Aeris_ | yep |
| 22:46.03 | Aeris_ | apt-get install tomcat5.5 |
| 22:46.29 | Aeris_ | and tomcat5.5-webapps and tomcat5.5-admin |
| 22:46.30 | roue | have you tried installing from http://tomcat.apache.org/ |
| 22:46.37 | Aeris_ | no |
| 22:46.45 | roue | I'd give that a shot. |
| 22:46.55 | roue | I've been running on Etch for some time without issues. |
| 22:47.15 | Aeris_ | but because admin page doesn't work, i downloaded admin webapp from tomcat.apache.org |
| 22:47.18 | Aeris_ | same result |
| 22:47.23 | roue | for all we know the package is broken. |
| 22:47.31 | roue | get everything from tomcat.apache.org |
| 22:47.36 | Aeris_ | okay |
| 22:47.40 | roue | Etch is testing. |
| 22:47.53 | Aeris_ | yes |
| 22:48.03 | Aeris_ | but stable |
| 22:48.14 | Aeris_ | no problem on my computer |
| 22:49.14 | roue | same here. |
| 22:49.14 | roue | looking forward to the final release sometime in 2020. |
| 22:49.15 | roue | :) |
| 22:49.15 | Aeris_ | :) |
| 22:49.52 | sknight | hey guys, on tc 5.5.20 (debian 4, jdk 1.5.0.10), how do I go about disabling logs like "localhost_access_log", "host-manager" "admin" and "manager", but leaving catalina.out and my application's log? |
| 22:55.30 | roue | sknight look for the entry in tomcat/conf/server.xml |
| 22:55.37 | roue | I suspect you can comment it out. |
| 22:55.57 | sknight | is it server.xml? or logging.properties? |
| 22:58.10 | roue | sknight I think it's in server.xml |
| 22:58.18 | roue | I could be wrong though, new at this myself. |
| 23:04.10 | Aeris_ | roue > ok, it's good |
| 23:04.21 | Aeris_ | apache-tomcat works |
| 23:04.33 | roue | glad to hear it. :) |
| 23:04.36 | Aeris_ | what's the problem with package debian? |
| 23:04.43 | roue | dunno |
| 23:04.52 | roue | you could check bugs.debian.org maybe there's info there. |
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| 23:11.16 | Aeris_ | thanks a lot! |
| 23:11.18 | Aeris_ | bye! |
| 23:18.53 | roue | baiii |
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| 23:29.14 | FuzzyB | Tomcat 5.5.12 | RHEL 4 | sun java build 1.5.0_11-b03 | Can the xml flies that tomcat processes to add applications ( /etc/tomcat5/Catalina/localhost/*.xml for me ) can the real path to the folder for the application contain -'s and .'s ? |
| 23:31.50 | FuzzyB | My error is saying: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Document base /opt/confluence-2.1.3/confluence does not exist or is not a readable directory |
| 23:32.00 | FuzzyB | but when i su to the tomcat user, i can walk into that directory just fine |
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| 23:49.14 | dossi | hi |
| 23:49.42 | dossi | i did that "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -i eth0 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080" thing mentioned here: http://www.linux.org.mt/article/tomcat-ports |
| 23:49.49 | dossi | how do I delete that rule ? :/ |