IRC log for #tomcat on 20070529

00:23.14karstensragethanks jasonb
00:25.21jasonbkarstensrage: Did it work?  :)
00:26.03karstensrageyup
00:26.12karstensrageso what does the Coyote connector
00:26.23karstensragedo
00:26.34karstensrageautomagically connect to apache?
00:27.45jasonb"Coyote connector" refers to the pure-Java HTTP/1.1 web server that is part of Tomcat.
00:28.22jasonbIt also implements a JK server that can be used to connect Apache httpd to Tomcat.. it's the Tomcat side of that connection.
00:29.04jasonbMainly, "Coyote", "Pure-Java", and "JIO" are interchangeable terms.
00:29.12karstensragehmm
00:29.21karstensrageok, Ill just work on my thing and worry about that later
00:29.28jasonb:)
00:29.38karstensragetomcat standalone seems to work ok
00:29.52jasonbTomcat stand-alone is best.  It's actually faster than Apache httpd.
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00:33.43NorrGuldcan't start my own servlets on tomcat 6.. anyone who can help me to try solve the problem?
00:35.14NorrGuldjsp-files works, and example-servlets.. but if I delete an example-servlets it still works untill I restart the server, if I put back an deleted example-servlet then I have to restart the server to get the servlet to work
00:35.30NorrGuldbut my own servlets I have succed to run, don't get it
00:36.24NorrGuldOS: xp Java: jdk 1.6, jre 1.6
00:36.47*** topic/#tomcat by jasonb -> Stable versions: 6.0.13, 5.5.23 and 4.1.36. Newbies use the official binary from tomcat.apache.org, or an RPM package from http://www.webdroid.org:8080/archives/tomcat-package. Check your Tomcat logs before you ask for an answer. SLOW MOTION CHANNEL (we all have jobs & kids): Ask your question, including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back often for answers.
00:37.21jasonbNorrGuld: Do you have reloadable="true" set on your Context?
00:38.31NorrGuldjasonb: haven't configured anything,, am beginner on tomcat
00:38.37jasonbNorrGuld: You should first read this: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/context.html
00:39.20NorrGuldjasonb: ok, thx.. think that this will solve the problem?
00:39.49jasonbNorrGuld: Reading the documentation?  Yes, that does solve lots of problems.
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01:07.45evoshHave you noticed that most people who use Tomcat are from outside of the U.S.?
01:11.29jasonbnah.. I don't believe they are.
01:12.02jasonbIt might be true that most people who _have trouble_ with Tomcat, or can't figure out how it works and come ask in here are outside the US.
01:12.03evoshAt least in this channel.
01:12.12evoshHah.
01:12.29evoshMaybe someone needs to translate the documents to other languages.
01:13.30evoshThe other day someone asked whether Tomcat in general would perform better under Intel Xeon or AMD Opteron.
01:13.56jasonbI can tell by my book royalties that more people are reading the book in the US than outside the US because the numbers are broken down by "domestic" and "foreign", and the domestic numbers are probably twice the foreign numbers, sometimes more than twice.
01:14.48jasonbevosh: The answer to that question changes when either Intel or AMD release a really hot new CPU line.
01:14.57evoshThe new Xeon Quad certainly has some advantages over Opteron with 2 cores but core to core comparison, AMD is ahead of Intel.
01:15.01jasonbevosh: They leapfrog each other.
01:15.12evoshYa, exactly.
01:15.27jasonbRight now Intel is ahead, but AMD is about to leapfrog them again.
01:16.16evoshI may have to buy a new machine as my XP box is falling apart after 8 years.
01:16.44evoshMy newest machine is 6 years old; definitely time to do some upgrades.
01:17.56evoshI still have two boxes from 97 and 98 who are operational. I have to shut them down in order to keep my room temp below 80F.
01:18.03evoshDamn electrical bill.
01:20.59jasonbI'd recommend buying a quad core (regardless of the brand), if you're about to buy a desktop machine.
01:21.21jasonbDual core is nice, but that's going to look old pretty quick.
01:22.05evoshBut the quad cores are insanely expensive. I can't afford them.
01:23.11evoshBesides, only applications who are specifically written to take advantage of such architectures can truely benefit from it.
01:24.18evoshI read a few benchmark articles and by comparison, applications who didn't run in multithreaded structure, didn't benefit from the extra juice.
01:24.41evoshIt was still apparent that quad core would do better but not with wide margines.
01:25.10jasonbJava is written to take advantage of as many cores as you have.
01:25.12evoshI mean, who wants to pay $1200+ * 2 for Intel Xeon 53xx?
01:26.06evoshThat is a valid point and as a matter of fact, any hardware boost would help Java in general.
01:26.12jasonbYou may not be able to afford a quad core CPU.  That's okay, get something else, but the down side is that you will again have to upgrade (= paying more money anyway) much sooner due to lack of CPU power.
01:27.12evoshMy philosophy always been to buy the top of the line but solid components so it would last you a long time.
01:27.34evoshThat's why I've been running all my machines for such a long time while everyone else been upgrading like crazy.
01:27.59jasonbMy strategy for buying computers has always been: get *the* top of the line hardware when you buy, because that will last the longest without feeling as weak.  Take good care of it ( like you apparently do ) and it will last many years, then start over and buy the top of the line again.  This actually cuts down the cost of buying machines significantly because it cuts down the number of times you must buy.
01:28.07evoshThat being said, I am not incline to upgrade my systems once every 10 months just becuase something better has come out.
01:28.15jasonbheh, me too.  :)
01:28.40jasonbYou've obviously got the right strategy.  :)
01:28.47evoshI stick with what I have. Another thing, I always buy "Top of the Line - 1" just to save a few bucks.
01:30.28evoshThis new system I've made a list for cost around $5000 so that made me be more hesitant.
01:30.28jasonbMy home server box is from 1999 (8 years now), and it still works fine.  That's because I paid for the top of the line back then.. when everyone was buying 500Mhz CPUs, one shop offered a 1Ghz chip as their top of the line and I went in and ordered it.  Even they looked at me funny!  They said "are you SURE you want to buy that?" I said hell yes I want to buy that, and I did.  It still works great.
01:30.28evoshI'll see what happens by the near end of the summer.
01:31.33jasonbBuying top of the line -1 is not helpful, IMHO.  That -1 step costs you about a year on the lifespan of the box, and during the 8 or so years you use it, you use a slower machine every day.  Bad, bad!
01:31.33evoshHah, ya, same story with everything I got. At one point, they were considered a monster PC's.
01:32.07evoshHah, That -1 is usually my first choice, it's just that I wait a few months and a better version comes out which makes the first choice -1.
01:32.20jasonbPlus, you scale back your "I've got the *best* stuff" feeling.  :)
01:33.06jasonbWell, even if a month later something better is available, at least when you buy the absolute top, then your box is only at best - 1 instead of best - 2!
01:33.42evoshFor some reason my father accidentaly load up the BIOS setting and SOME HOW managed to screw up the memory latency settings.
01:34.00evoshThen he was complaining why the system is BEEP'ing at him and nothing shows up.
01:36.27jasonbugh.
01:37.02evoshTime to find BIOS reset pins.
01:37.26jasonbheh
01:37.27evoshThe funny thing was he was unhappy with the "speed" I troubleshoot his PC.
01:37.43jasonbYeah, I have parents like that too.
01:38.14evoshHe was asking why the power button doesn't reset this "thing" called BIOS.
01:38.57evoshHah, and he added, "I hope this doesn't happen again because I didn't even DO anything."
01:41.48evoshI gotta do water cooling for this new system but a good cooling system for dual processor mb costs around $400+ alone.
01:47.14evoshI would too especially if you are not careful with tight short turns by not installing coils or passing tubes through drilled holes without plastic covers and thin bad quality tubes in generals.
01:47.47evoshBut usually the most problem spots are the connectors from the tube to the components.
01:48.35evoshI wish there was a way to just immerse the whole system into a liquid nitrogen and get over with it.
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01:58.30jasonbheh
01:58.45jasonbliquid nitrogen is fun.
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03:03.13GionnyBossI don't understand how can I let tomcat 5.5.23 work on Fedora Core 6 with Sun JDK 1.6u1. I installed tomcat from fedora's repos and I tryed to set my java home in /etc/tomcat5/tomcat5.conf . I get error and I can't access localhost:8080
03:06.59evoshWould you please go and download the binary version from http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi and not use your distro package.
03:07.23evoshGoing with your distro package is not healthy.
03:07.42evoshIt comes with nasty STD's.
03:09.51GionnyBossevosh, thanks for suggestions
03:10.29GionnyBossevosh, do you suggest tomcat 5.5 or tomcat 6?
03:11.16evoshTomcat 6 as it has been tested by reliable sources to be very stable now and has better performance rate.
03:11.47GionnyBossok thank you
03:11.52evoshI only assumed you have some sort of criterias to meet that you are choosing 5.5.
03:12.02evoshOr perhaps your distro only offers 5.5.
03:12.14GionnyBossmy distro only offers 5.5
03:12.37evoshI see. Don't bother with the package and get binary Tomcat from their own site.
03:14.30GionnyBossok ... now I uninstall tomcat5 package and try to install the one from sources
03:16.15GionnyBossoh my god, if I remove all tomcat stuff, it will remove open office, too... problably there's something about tomcat that I don't have to remove,but this is strange!
03:16.34evoshNot the source per se but rather the binary version.
03:16.46evoshOpenOffice? How is OpenOffice related to Tomcat?
03:17.21evoshDoes Fedora's package manager ask you to remove OpenOffice with it as well?
03:19.22GionnyBossevosh, I solved... is there a tomcat-lib package that is related with open office and a lot of other application
03:19.49GionnyBossmaybe it's just strange that this lib is called "tomcat", I guess that it should be called differently
03:20.07GionnyBossjust the package "tomcat" itself does not depend on openoffice
03:21.21GionnyBossevosh, I am noticing that something is left in /etc/tomcat5 and in /usr/share/tomcat5 from previous install... should I delete it?
03:21.24evoshI would probably say no. Isn't Openoffice written in C++?
03:21.43GionnyBossevosh, Open Office has got some parts using Java, don't know exactly which ones
03:21.45evoshYa, go ahead delete them as they are no use.
03:22.40GionnyBossok done
03:25.00GionnyBossevosh, you were right... I just untar it and launched it... and it works :)
03:25.01GionnyBosscool
03:25.39evoshYup, if people could just avoid using distro packages for Tomcat.
03:26.08evoshThere are at least half a dozen people every week with the same issue.
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03:29.47shampoonatorhi, i have a little servelett problem
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03:29.47shampoonatori got a servlet creating a html-document, this document hast some images (i got it in a res folder), the html hrefs are like ref/image.gif
03:29.54shampoonatorcan i somehow tell tomcat in the wars web.xml or something to search the images in that file?  ... mmh
03:30.17GionnyBossevosh, if I see the page http://localhost:8080/ means that everything is ok, right? or should I check some other things first?
03:31.12evoshGionnyBoss, Not everything but it is a start. You can run the demos/examples if you want to see whether JSP and servlets work.
03:31.49GionnyBossok thank you evosh
03:32.04evoshNo problem. I gotta get some sleep.
03:32.20shampoonatorsomeone got an idea.. or even understands my problem g*
03:33.52GionnyBossgood night evosh
03:34.18GionnyBossshampoonator, I'm sorry I have just installed tomcat for my first time, I cannot be of any help
03:34.39shampoonator:)
03:35.22GionnyBossshampoonator, just be patient. If someone knows the answer, when he will read it, he will answer you.
03:35.46GionnyBossI guess people is doing something else, too :P lol
03:35.56shampoonatormmh i got 8 hours to get it to work.. and no sleep since 24 hours mmh..
03:36.08shampoonatorim not too patient lol..
03:37.07GionnyBossshampoonator, I can imagine your frustration... I sometimes am like you, when I have to let something work on my computer... I don't sleep and I just try and try and try ... !
03:40.56GionnyBossshampoonator, BTW, I can't understand your problem... what do you mean by "search the images in that file"?
03:42.36shampoonatorwell i got the same problem like that guy here http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25289 ..but the answers dont help ...
03:45.55shampoonatoror in short words.. how to access static content that lies in a folder i  want.. not the servlet wants g*
03:45.57GionnyBossshampoonator, it doesn't work with the answer? I have just tried using netbeans and its bundled tomcat and it does as the answer says. Now I try with the "real" tomcat when I finish to understand how it works to configure it :P
03:48.28GionnyBossshampoonator, I guess that you can access files outside the document root, too, but I guess that you should configure tomcat to do this (I don't know what's the standard behaviour=
03:51.48GionnyBossif you have in ROOT a ref folder, you should access it with /your_JSP_project_name/ref in your html
03:52.01GionnyBossthis is how it works on Netbeans with bundled tomcat... hope that this helps
03:53.32GionnyBossso if, for example, you access your website with "localhost:8080/your_name/index.jsp", an image in "res" folder can be accessed by html by "<img src="/ref/image.jpg">"
03:53.42GionnyBosssorry
03:53.53GionnyBoss<img src="/your_name/ref/image.jpg">
03:55.53shampoonatormmh
03:56.13shampoonatorwell /usr/share/tomcat5/webapps/xslpast  <== thats my servlett
03:56.31shampoonator<PROTECTED>
03:56.53shampoonator<PROTECTED>
03:57.05shampoonator<PROTECTED>
03:57.51GionnyBosstry <img src="/xslpast/res/image.gif"> ... if it doesn't work, just wait that someone with more experience than me will give you the answer :)
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04:12.57GionnyBossshampoonator, does it work? it works for me, just tested now
04:13.22shampoonatorno
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04:16.51GionnyBosswhen you use HTML, "/" is your webapps directory. This is how it works for me
04:19.23shampoonatorwell my pic is in http://localhost:8180/xslpast/res/AWSBEAST48.gif  , the servlet in http://localhost:8180/xslpast and.. it.. just sucks :(
04:21.10GionnyBossshampoonator, why don't you use JSP instead of servlets? It's easier and better and I don't have this problem as you have
04:21.50shampoonatorbecause i dont neet jsp.. its only a xslt parser
04:21.51GionnyBossbut what do you do exactly with this picture? can you pastebin your code that you say that it doesn't work?
04:23.11GionnyBossif you are accessing a file with HTML, it is true what I said before, but... if you access a file with some Java code, so current directory is $CATALINA_HOME/bin
04:23.23shampoonatorits html
04:23.32shampoonatorannnnnnd.. it doe not work :)
04:23.57GionnyBosswhat does not work exactly? which error do you get?
04:24.03GionnyBossmaybe it is a permission issue
04:24.04shampoonatorfile not found
04:24.33GionnyBossdid you check image permission?
04:24.49shampoonatoryes
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04:26.02GionnyBosswhat a strange thing... why don't you just try to do a new servlet with a test... just to have your heart in peace and see wheter it works or not
04:26.56shampoonatorbecause my servelet just works fine :)
04:27.21shampoonatorand.. well it does not do anythink except calling a few xalan methods
04:33.17RProgrammerHas anyone used getNamedDispatcher() to work correctly? (using the returned dispatcher, not actually getting it)
04:34.23RProgrammerWhenever I try to forward() to "jsp" or "default", it returns 404 without fail.
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04:44.47RProgrammerOh well,
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05:53.50vinsesorry, keyboard incident
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06:35.37corveumHelp! I have run into this several times in different environments, and I search the web for solutions but none of them seem to work...
06:36.07corveumMy environment: Windows Server 2000, Java JDK 1.5.0_09, Tomcat 5.0.28
06:38.12corveumI am getting a standard error of "Perhaps JAVA_HOME" is not set when ever I try to load a JSP page.
06:38.48corveumI have set JAVA_HOME in the system environment, I have copied tools.jar to tomcat\common\lib and I have cleared out the Catalina cache for the webapp
06:38.52corveumNo change
06:41.29corveumThe problem seems to start with the Tomcat install. I point the install to the JDK but after install it always points to the JRE. I reset it using the Tomcat config tool, but the issue is already here
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12:00.57yassineheya folks
12:01.41yassinelyken: there?
12:01.56yassinejasonb hey are you there too?
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12:33.01dukez_#apache
12:33.44dukez_hi i go a strange question about mod_jk and IIS, is it possible to configure 2 virtual site with a different uriworkermap for the context /app for exemple ?
12:34.28lykenwhat are you trying to achieve ?
12:35.42dukez_to map www.serv1.com/app to worker tomcat1 and www.serv2.com/app to worker tomcat2 :)
12:35.56dukez_and www.serv1.com and www.serv2.com are on the same IIS
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13:00.12Lat31Anyone around ?
13:01.03Lat31Running Tomcat 5, Java 1.4 and XP. I start tomcat the first time, and everything runs fine, however as soon as i stop and start it again, nothing loads, cant even get to localhost
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13:19.09kadamsLat31: have you checked the logs?
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15:31.26rbdwin32, tomcat 5.5.20, java 5: is it normally ok to block in a servlet for a considerable amount of time (tomcat is multi-threaded right)? or, is there a "friendly" way to block past just calling a blocking call and tieing up a thread like that?
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16:04.19GionnyBossI'm trying to upload a file, I am using Netbeans 5.5, I added libraries commons-io and common-fileupload to my project, but I get errors "object not found" when I try to use library classes. What am I missing?
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16:14.44kadamsGionnyBoss: did you package up your webapp as a war file and deploy it using Tomcat's Manager?
16:16.19GionnyBosskadams, I'm now using Netbeans bundled Tomcat. This is probably OT, but when I try to include the library, it says that it can't find it. I don't know what to do to use this library, I just added the jar to my libraries in the project and if I try to include it it doesn't work
16:16.50GionnyBossIt's my first time that I try to use external libraries, probably I'm missing something
16:17.23kadamshm
16:17.46kadamsso this happens when you try to run it using the bundled tomcat, not when you deploy it?
16:18.01kadams(running it inside netbeans)
16:18.10GionnyBossI did not try to deploy it to tomcat
16:18.21kadamsok
16:18.22GionnyBossjust used netbeans bundled tomcat... but it should be the same
16:18.28kadamsyeah
16:19.15GionnyBossI noticed for example that for using mysql-connector you have to do a "Class.forName("com. .... etc")" to let it work. I don't know what should I do for file uploads libraries
16:20.40kadamswhat file upload lib are you using?
16:20.58kadamsnevermind, I scrolled up
16:21.06GionnyBosscommons-fileupload ... and I have commons-io for dependences
16:21.55kadamshm
16:22.06kadamswell it's lunchtime here
16:22.10kadamsbe back in an hour
16:22.20GionnyBosswhat's the correct procedure to use an external libraries, please? I would like to understand, if possible, so I can fix this and I can learn for other libraries too
16:22.27GionnyBossok no problem... thank you and enjoy your meal
16:45.55GionnyBossdone it :) now it works perfectly!
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17:19.41todd1is there no admin tool for tomcat 6?
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17:20.46todd1Ive gotten the manager app to work, but I dont see a way to download the admin app for that version
17:21.01todd1Ive googled the heck out of it, with no luck .. so here I am
17:33.26pfnthe tomcat admin app sucks anyway
17:38.39a4akbpfn give 10 valid reasons to justify your claim
17:39.02pfnit doesn't support any complex configuration in server.xml
17:39.11pfnit does not support the Engine/vhost/context.xml
17:39.28pfnit's rudimentary, it's about as friendly as actually writing into server.xml yourself
17:41.11a4akb7 more to go
17:41.11pfnI don't need to give anymore
17:41.11pfnuse it and see for yourelf
17:41.11a4akbafter that you have to give 10 new valid improvements and suggestions
17:41.22pfnum, no
17:41.32a4akblol
17:41.40a4akbthen quit complaining ;)
17:41.44pfnI'm not complaining
17:41.46pfnI just don't use it
17:41.58pfnand I don't necessarily recommend that anyone use it
17:41.58a4akbgood
17:42.10a4akbthat's your prespective
17:42.35pfnyou use and like the admin app?
17:42.50a4akbwhich version?
17:42.55pfnany version
17:43.12a4akbdefine 'any'
17:43.23pfnuh, any?
17:43.33pfnany tomcat admin app from 4.0 on up to 6.0
17:43.55a4akbwhat about 6.0.13?
17:44.03pfn6.0 includes 6.0.x
17:45.41a4akbI don't
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17:46.39pfnwell then, what an ass
17:53.48kadamslol
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19:30.33todd1ok .. so no admin tool for tomcat 6.x then?
19:42.09GionnyBosswhen I'm writing java code for JSP I noticed that current directory is the tomcat bin directory. Is there a command that gives you the path where my .jsp files are? In particular, I want to access WEB-INF folder
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20:58.35smpshi ppl, got tomcat 5.5.20 , jdk1.5.0_09 and debian 4.0 (linux kernel 2.6.18) - have questions about jsessionid
20:58.38smpsanyone willing to help ?
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21:34.40pfnI guess there's no admin webapp for tomcat6
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22:00.29falloutsmps:  see the topic.
22:02.04smpsok , some of developers have made one site so that he includes one map from public available site on internet, and for navigation includes he data from second server which is apahce + tomcat and on that third server which is tomcat content would be displayed....
22:02.44smpsnow i have situation that 2 jsessionid's from first and second tomcat servers are overwritten
22:02.53smpsin cookie filed ...
22:03.01smpshow can i rename jsessionid var ?
22:07.45pfncheck the <manager> documentation
22:10.53pfnotherwise, check the source
22:12.07smpspfn, thx
22:13.51pfnhow are the 2 session ids overriden anyway, shouldn't the domains on the cookies be different?
22:14.28smpspfn, yes they are
22:14.49smpspfn, i changed jsessionid variable name with hexeditor in some .class files of tomcat
22:15.04smpspfn, only for test , to JSESS123ID
22:15.10smpspfn, now cookie looks like this
22:15.17smpspfn, Cookie: AlteonP=affd2ed1feedbaf6baee; JSESSIONID=A7FAA495F9FDB69C81FAD60BD5A10991.INETP1021;
22:15.17smps__utma=226587341.253418833.1180475086.1180475086.1180475086.1; __utmb=226587341; __utmc=226587341;
22:15.17smps__utmz=226587341.1180475086.1.1.utmccn=(direct)|utmcsr=(direct)|utmcmd=(none); JSESS123ID=E2A90360FA11A22CDFCB7D14E349D070
22:15.34smpspfn, before that change i made, it would display only jsessionid
22:24.58vinseanyone got a surplus of opinions about tomcat eclipse plugins that they want to share?  there's so many features in myeclipse that i dont use i'm wondering about switching to sysdeo or WTP, but there's not a ton of information on the newest versions of this stuff
22:25.31vinselike does sysdeo do hot code replacement like myeclipse?  it looks as though WTP does not
22:27.36Lat31Running Tomcat 5, Java 1.4 and XP. I start tomcat the first time, and everything runs fine, however as soon as i stop and start it again, nothing loads, cant even get to localhost
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22:51.42vinseLat31: what version of Tomcat (it has 3 numbers), *must* you use 1.4 and not java 5?  are you running as a service?
22:56.07evoshWhy on earth did you change JSESSIONID name to something else? Wouldn't that break the session management process?
22:56.32evoshAnd changing it via hex editor of some class file!!! That's hard core.
22:56.46evoshThat's the first.
22:58.49smpsevosh, how can i solve this problem than ?
22:59.29evoshThe session id's shouldn't be the same in the first place. I have no idea why you getting the same value on two different Tomcat servers.
22:59.49evoshDo you guys utilize any sort of load balancer that handles sessions appropriately for each server?
23:01.04smpsevosh, there is loadbalancer on this remote server where whole site sits , but i dont have access to that server
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23:03.23evoshWell, if the load balancer doesn't handle sessions properly, sending one session to two servers, then the value would be the same unless your session objects implement HttpSessionActivationListener or something.
23:03.46evoshSo the sessions be passivated to and activated on the second server.
23:04.33evoshNever done clustering but what I am wondering is how you could possibly get the same session id value (not the name) on both servers.
23:04.43evoshUnless I'm missing something from your question.
23:04.55evoshpfn knows more.
23:05.12evoshAnd... From what I read, he already took a whack at it, hah.
23:06.44evoshDoes the name JSESSIONID change if you are doing clustering?
23:07.15smpsevosh, i dont know, havent done clustering jet
23:07.34smpsevosh, just setup of one server on which some data stored is ...
23:08.49evoshStick around, someone may be able to help.
23:09.10smpsevosh, thx anyway
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