IRC log for #tomcat on 20080507

00:01.04MHSLrgsteele||work, where do you put your webapp?
00:01.32MHSLrgsteele||work, can you access your jsp/html?
00:01.37martiner__33MHSL: what do u think about my exception?
00:01.48MHSLshit, wrong person, should be martiner_33
00:01.59MHSLmartiner_33, see the 2 questions above
00:02.01martiner__33MHSL: I see
00:02.07rgsteele||workMHSL: I can't even start Tomcat
00:02.18MHSLrgsteele||work, nvm, wrong person
00:02.30rgsteele||workMHSL: No problem
00:02.36martiner__33MHSL: my webapps is located in /usr/local/tomcat5.5/webapps
00:02.46MHSLmartiner__33, under which directory?
00:02.58martiner__33/usr/local/tomcat5.5/webapps
00:03.07MHSLmartiner_33, it cannot just be under webapps dir, it should be under a subdirectory under webapps
00:03.32martiner__33MHSL: it is exactly in directory /usr/local/tomcat5.5/webapps/final
00:03.54MHSLmartiner__33, ok, so the context path is final, so you have WEB-INF/lib under final directory?
00:04.34martiner__33MHSL: i can access my html normaly..than I put two variables and i press SEND button ...than I have this exception which I posted to u
00:05.09martiner__33MHSL: ..yeah exactly...   /WEB-INF/lib is under final
00:05.30MHSLmartiner_33, check the permission and owner of the jar file, make sure tomcat can read it
00:05.34martiner__33MHSL: inside lib is located stepchar.jar
00:05.45martiner__33wait a second
00:06.40martiner__33MHSL: -rwxrwxrw- 1 root plugdev 2889893 2008-05-06 00:03 stepchar.jar
00:07.13martiner__33MHSL: I think it's OK ..or maybe I have to change owner and group?
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00:09.04martiner__33MHSL: how can I check that Tomcat can read this file? all permissions are ok I THINK . .. or not?
00:09.35martiner__33access to this folder have everybody for read and that's OK
00:11.40martiner__33MHSL: what do U think?
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00:17.31MHSLmartiner_33, seems ok, is this the correct path? stepchar.stepcharMCRFactory
00:18.13MHSLmartiner_33, also check that that class really exists inside the jar file
00:19.53martiner__33MHSL: I think yes ... inside stepchar.jar are two directories .. META-INF and stepchar ... inside stepchar is located stepcharMCRFactory.class
00:21.11martiner__33MHSL: in exception is written that tomcat cannot find this class file ... do u think may I put this class elsewhere?
00:22.42martiner__33MHSL: is somewhere located log file which exactly could say how tomcat is working? I mean for what is he looking in real time
00:29.20martiner__33MHSL: do u know another Tomcat IRC where I can post my problem as well?
00:29.24MHSLmartiner_33, that's explained on tomcat doc
00:29.31MHSLmartiner_33, gtg now, going to work
00:30.00martiner__33MHSL: on tomcat doc? hmm in document?
00:30.58martiner__33MHSL: what is gtg?
00:41.20martiner__33MHSL: I will try to reconfigure web.xml file .. maybe this file has effect too
00:41.57martiner__33http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jasper-howto.html
00:43.33martiner__33MHSL: thanks for help ..if u have any ideas please post me at martiner33@gmail.com ..thanks
00:43.49martiner__33bye
00:44.21martiner__33or u can post it hre
00:44.24martiner__33here
00:44.28martiner__33thanks
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01:53.34mib_je4qzthi
01:54.02mib_je4qztcan i make a servlet throw an exception ot be shown in an error page?
01:54.23mib_je4qztdoget/dopost only seem to throw ioexception
01:55.59mib_je4qzthey, why the quit on me ? :)
02:00.02mib_je4qztpfn: here?
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06:46.03uprooterCan someone please help me with a simple logging issue? I want to remove the date from the log file name (im using 6.0.16 on linux). any idea ?
06:56.29kjkoster5489See conf/logging.properties
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07:15.35TujuException in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space"
07:15.45TujuMem:   2056144k total,  2032112k used,    24032k free,     1876k buffers
07:15.45TujuSwap:  1958392k total,   746096k used,  1212296k free,    47408k cached
07:15.54Tujuhowcome i run out of mem?
07:23.03uprooterTuju: try the -Xmx parameter, like -Xmx1024M
07:23.54TujuJAVA_OPTS=-XX:+UseParallelGC\ -Xmx1536M\ -Xms256M\ -server\ -XX:SurvivorRatio=8\ -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90\ -XX:MaxTenuringThres
07:23.54Tujuhold=31
07:24.16Tujuso I already have such opts in place, have doubled them couple times without luck
07:25.15uprooterTuju: Maybe you have a recursive call that runs forever or something like that.. donno.
07:25.15Tujuis there any way to monitor the process internals when it runs?
07:25.46Tujuthe beauty is that i've not implemented that one...
07:26.07kjkoster5489Tuju: Use jconsole to monitor your memory usage.
07:26.26Tujuis that cli tool? so i can run it with ssh...
07:26.35kjkoster5489No, it uses RMI.
07:26.41Tujuack
07:26.46kjkoster5489*shrug*
07:27.05kjkoster5489You can Google for "jconsole and firewalls"
07:27.17kjkoster5489That will show how to run jconsole remote.
07:27.30kjkoster5489Through an ssh tunnel even.
07:27.37Tujuokay, I'll try to look at it, thanks.
07:28.05uprooterkjkoster5489: I can't find any property for the log file name pattern in logging.properties
07:28.50uprooterit has prefix like juli.FileHandler.prefix = localhost.
07:29.28kjkoster5489IIRC that file is a form of log4j configuration file, so you should be able to use regular log4j syntax.
07:29.43uprooterbut im not using log4j
07:29.52uprooterdo I have to?
07:31.07kjkoster5489uprooter: Oh, but you are using log4j. ;) Tomcat uses it internally, but they renamed it.
07:31.34kjkoster5489Just treat logging.properties as though it is a log4.properties.
07:31.39uprooterokay......... :)
08:06.30uprooterkjkoster5489: unfortunatly there is no attribute for the date. there's prefix, suffix, level, directory,  but nothing I can find to disable the date in the file name
08:07.51kjkoster5489Hmm.
08:07.59kjkoster5489Dunno then, sorry.
08:08.02cofeineSunshinehello
08:08.26uprooter10x anyway :)
08:08.49cofeineSunshinehow to I reload app context with JPA(hibernate)? If i restart tomcat it works, but if I reload context, it fails with null pointer exception
08:09.14cofeineSunshineall this is because of I use Persistence.createEntityManagerFactory();
08:09.22cofeineSunshinetwice
08:09.27cofeineSunshinewithout restarting whole tomcat
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08:28.19cofeineSunshinedoes registered ContextListener and requestFilter have same classloader?
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09:29.17ofcaHello. How to change auto logout time on Tomcat 5.5 (java 1.6, OS Win XP)?
09:33.51ofca<session-timeout>1</session-timeout> <-- doesn't work
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10:07.34fripettehello
10:07.45fripettei have a simple question about a resultSet
10:08.50fripetteis it a order list ?
10:09.42fripettethe element at the location 1 in the RS is always the same element
10:09.43fripette?
10:48.47kjkoster5489fripette: That depends on the implementation of your database. In other words: no not rely on it for your code, but use ORDER BY instead.
10:50.20fripettewhen i said "order" is not when i fill my RS but when i parse it in the response page
10:50.38cofeineSunshinein response page you parse a list
10:50.43cofeineSunshinereturned by query
10:50.54cofeineSunshinewich is defined with specific sql
10:51.09cofeineSunshinei think the order remains same
11:02.21fripetteok thanks !!
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14:23.46mitcivsHow is the relative base (org/apache/commons/io/output/DeferredFileOutputStream) determined when a .WAR is deployed through Tomcat?
14:24.16mitcivsI am troubleshooting the reason why this class is not found despite including the commons-io package in WAR bukd
14:24.19mitcivsbuild*
14:26.18eleanmaybe you got conflicting jars
14:27.00mitcivsIt is also worth mentioning that I am running both Tomcat5/jdk1.4 and Tomcat55/jdk1.5 on the same system
14:27.10mitcivsI hope that is not causing any confusion
14:27.36mitcivselean : How would you advise troubleshooting the possibility of conflicting jars?
14:27.51mitcivsI am completely fresh to tomcat/java, and no next-to-nothing
14:27.56mib_spfy73if i'm handling doGet and doPost in a servlet, any easy way to not handle any exception, and on error throw up the default tomcat error page ?
14:27.57mitcivsknow*
14:27.59eleanresolve the conflict ;)
14:28.09mitcivsyuk yuk
14:28.18mib_spfy73mitcivs: just put the .jar inside tomcat\common\lib
14:28.33eleanyou can only have one jar loaded in tomcat
14:28.40eleani mean..
14:29.01eleanyou can only have one version of a certain jar loaded in an application in tomcat
14:29.16mitcivselean : That appears obvious to me
14:29.22mitcivsI am looking for more technical answers
14:29.34mib_spfy73can anybody answer my question ?
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14:30.05eleanmitcivs: ?
14:32.12mitcivsHere is my stack trace: http://pastebin.com/d70cca6ca
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14:33.02mitcivs<PROTECTED>
14:34.07eleanthis jar is only there ? i mean it's not in app's libs ?
14:34.29mitcivsI have tried including it in the apps path: custom/WEB-INF/lib/
14:34.48mitcivswhen I unzip the built .WAR, the commons-io .jar has been included
14:35.05mitcivsbut due to the nature of my error, apparently is still not referenced properly
14:35.49mitcivsI have since moved the location of .jar to tomcat server-side, thanks to the advice of mib_spfy73
14:36.13mitcivsproblem persists
14:37.10mib_spfy73any idea on sane codig in servlets ?
14:37.18mib_spfy73i hate the whole exceptin is a must in java :(
14:37.31mitcivsme?
14:37.48mitcivsI am java illiterate
14:38.24eleanmitcivs: I have no clue what might be wrong then..
14:42.56mitcivsHow can I determine what version of jdk tomcat is referencing (tomcat55)?
14:43.54mib_spfy73check your enviroment settings ?
14:43.58mib_spfy73JAVA_HOME or somethingl ike that
14:44.28mitcivsmib_spfy73 : I have jdk1.4 and jdk1.5 installed on the same system, as I have a production tomcat5(using 1.4) and test tomcat55(using 1.5) installed
14:44.49mitcivsmy environment versions are not relevant, as the builds are taking place on a seperate host from tomcat, running only 1.5
14:45.12mitcivsI need to know (for sure) which version of jdk tomcat is using it ITS environment
14:45.48mitcivsWhen I build tomcat55, I specifically linked it against 1.5, but I would like to doublecheck that now
14:46.15mib_spfy73i'm no expert again
14:46.18mib_spfy73but i think when you run TC
14:46.32puckoit uses the java defined in JAVA_HOME or JRE_HOME enviroment variables afaik
14:46.34mib_spfy73it looks for some variable settings (atleast in windows) for which jdk to use
14:46.39mib_spfy73exactly
14:46.44mitcivsI see the info at the botom of the manager page
14:46.48mitcivsJVM Version: 1.5
14:46.50mitcivsOK
14:46.58puckoor if not specified it uses the one first available in path
14:47.08mitcivsSo I can rule out conflicting versions from acting as the probglem
14:47.11mitcivsproblem
14:47.46mitcivsWhen doing manual builds, those variables are relevant
14:48.14mib_spfy73pucko: you a java servlet developer ?
14:49.36puckoI develop some shit which I run on tomcat yes, but I don't develop tomcat container itself
14:50.07mib_spfy73yeah
14:50.24mib_spfy73i'm wondering, how to deal with exceptions in code
14:50.26mib_spfy73i have a servlet for manging user interaction via doget/dopost
14:51.11mib_spfy73but the code has lots of exceptions like sql errors and what not
14:51.11mib_spfy73and i dont wanna handle it all
14:51.27mib_spfy73i want it to dump all to error page, got it?
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14:53.02mib_spfy73pucko ?
14:53.37puckoyou can create exection pages
14:53.47puckojsp pages which are shown upon certain expections
14:53.58mib_spfy73but how do i not catch them..
14:54.14mib_spfy73i mean a doget can only throw an ioexception
14:54.53puckoyou can rethrow it as an ioexception
14:55.22puckotry { callmysql() } catch ( SQLException e ) { throw new IOException( e ); }
14:55.25puckoor something
14:55.37mib_spfy73thats not very smart
14:55.50mib_spfy73since a. it's not an ioexception b. it really uglifies my code with each sql access
14:56.21puckothen you have to figure out why you get exceptions from the sql access and fix them?
14:56.56puckoimo exceptions shouldn't happen unless there's an error
14:57.05mib_spfy73http://www.mibbit.com/ best irc browser ever !
14:57.21mib_spfy73pucko: yes, but i need to make my code very verbose to handle all those sql exceptions
14:57.38mib_spfy73even if there is no reason to get an exception i need to catch it every time
15:02.58mib_spfy73got it ?
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17:26.42mib_spfy73anybody here ?
17:33.15mib_spfy73come check out the new and cool web 2.0 irc client (no need for mirc / x-chat anymore), works even on webphones http://www.mibbit.com/
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18:46.59cloviswanyone have slow performance of tomcat with SMP machines? i know that this can be a problem of JVM, but i cant find a solution, any idea?
18:48.26cloviswappears that the individual threads actually move from processor to processor even though they are in a continuous running state and never sleep, this slow down the tomcat performance
18:50.14cloviswi'm using tomcat 6.0.14 with Sun JDK 1.5.0_15, and linux kernell 2.6.23.1-10
19:20.02pfnwell, sounds like that bug you pasted a link to a while ago would be your best way to track the problem
19:22.21cloviswpfn, the apache devs say that is solved
19:22.35pfnwell, it doesn't sound like it
19:22.39pfnprovide proof that it is occurring
19:22.45pfnor update to a latest java6 jvm
19:23.47cloviswpfn, i think that the problems with threads is related to this forum http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=37&threadID=514088
19:24.13cloviswpfn, its something how java threads work on new linux kernel
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19:26.55cloviswmaybe the reason is, that SMP load balancing made for new scheduler, slow down the JVM performance for threads
19:30.17cloviswhow i find "This was fixed in rev 583650." ? where is that rev 583650?
19:32.51pfnlook at svn
19:33.12cloviswpfn, have a link for browse?
19:33.18pfnsvn.apache.org/viewvc
19:34.03pfnTOMCAT_6_0_14/  557842  9 months  remm  - Tomcat 6.0.14.
19:34.05pfnTOMCAT_6_0_15/  590549  6 months  remm  - 6.0.15 tag. Builds will be published tomorrow.
19:34.14pfnaccording to that, the fix would have been in 6.0.15
19:35.27cloviswhum, then is better i migrate to 6.0.16, but that just solves the problem ta i get the CPU at 100% when use sendfile
19:35.44pfnshrugs
19:35.47pfnso it fixes sendfile
19:35.53pfnshrugs about the threads
19:35.59pfndowngrade to a pre-cfs kernel
19:36.03pfnand see if there is an improvement
19:36.12cloviswthe other problem is about JVM thread versus new linux kernell scheduller
19:45.03cloviswpfn, what you mean abou pre-cfs kernel? its a specific version?
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20:09.56rgsteele||workIs the Apache -> Tomcat via AJP equivalent to Apache -> Tomcat via mod_jk?
20:10.21cloviswyes
20:10.27rgsteele||workThanks.
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20:38.49pfnclovisw, of course, since you say it's related to the scheduler, it has switched recently
20:40.46cloviswi'm talking with linux people, its something about a clock definition on linux
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21:04.31atpa8ahello
21:05.02atpa8alooking for a solution to expose spring managed beans to another application within the same tomcat instance
21:05.12atpa8apreferably without remoting
21:05.17atpa8aany ideas?
21:06.07pfnno
21:06.39pfnyou need to expose the beans at a higher level than your webapps
21:06.51pfnperhaps you can register your applicationcontext in jndi
21:16.35atpa8athat's what i was contemplating...
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21:17.00atpa8aconsidering JCA as well
21:20.13cloviswpfn: :( no the guys on linux dont found the reason, isnt clock
21:20.32cloviswpfn: i will try with another JVM, like from BEA, IBM or Terracotta
21:21.28cloviswpfn: the big problem is this "cache line migration between the two CPUs"
21:21.46cloviswpfn: the solution is, mantain a thread on the CPU until that thread finish
21:22.06cloviswpfn: and i will try discover, how
21:23.03atpa8acan i even install a JCA into tomcat?
21:23.30pfnno
21:23.37pfntomcat is a servlet container
21:23.39pfnnothing more
21:23.57cloviswi will go to home now, good night
21:24.03atpa8ahmm
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21:25.56atpa8anot a good picture :P
21:26.23atpa8abut... if you think about it... JNDI is not a part of servlet specs
21:27.08pfnjndi is a requirement in the servlet spec
21:27.19pfnso tomcat implements it, minimally
21:28.06atpa8ahmm
21:28.18pfnno jndi means you can't properly implement servlets
21:28.28atpa8aso JNDI is my only option...
21:28.59pfnand that means a bunch of your application code will need to go into tomcat's shared/common classloader
21:29.05pfnit can't be in your webapp-private classloader
21:29.28atpa8athat's undesirable
21:31.46pfnthen remoting is your only choice
21:32.00atpa8amy SAs will revolt :P
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21:33.18Heikki123hi
21:33.20atpa8athanks tho
21:34.28Heikki123and good night :D
21:36.56atpa8ahm
21:37.06atpa8acan i deploy an ESB in tomcat?
21:38.09pfnno
21:38.23pfnyou can embed activemq within tomcat
21:38.30pfnnot quite an esb, but a "framework" for one
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21:39.15atpa8ahmm
21:39.42atpa8aactivemq is the only thing?
21:39.57pfnwell, activemq is probably the most wellknown/supported of OSS MQ middleware
21:40.43atpa8a(btw i'm getting activemq shutdownhook exception when stopping tomcat with liferay installed)
21:41.15atpa8ais there a consolidation of what can be integrated with tomcat?
21:41.33pfn?
21:42.06atpa8alike a list or something
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21:43.03tieTYThey i'm using tomcat 5.5.17.  When I visit localhost:8080, there's a link for the manager, but clicking on it goes to a 404
21:43.12pfnmanager/html
21:43.14tieTYTi looked at the archives, and there's no manager webapp included in the webapps folder
21:43.17pfnmanager is a broken link
21:43.33tieTYTit takes me to http://localhost:8080/manager/html
21:43.58pfnthen you need to deploy the manager webapp
21:44.10atpa8atieTYT: it's not in webapps folder
21:44.10tieTYTi need to add it myself?
21:44.15tieTYToh
21:44.29atpa8ait's in server/webapps
21:44.31tieTYTah i see it
21:44.33tieTYTso it's there
21:44.34pfndamned if I know, every bindist of tomcat I've ever gotten has the manager webapp
21:44.44atpa8a:P
21:44.46pfndoesn't use linux dists of tomcat
21:44.48pfnthey're all broken
21:44.55pfnexcept, perhaps the tomcat rpm provided by jasonb
21:45.06tieTYTso why would manager/html go to a 404
21:45.06tieTYT?
21:45.22pfnit's not deployed for whatever reason
21:45.25atpa8atieTYT: you configured authorization?
21:45.29pfnlocalhost.log may have the reason
21:45.35atpa8a404 == not found?
21:45.45atpa8ais not a web person :P
21:45.54pfnor manager.log
21:45.57pfn404 is notfound
21:46.00tieTYTi haven't done crap :P
21:46.13tieTYTi'm going to start fresh
21:46.16tieTYTsee if that happens
21:46.21tieTYTthis was copied from another hd
21:46.34atpa8atieTYT: you might want to read on manager app in the docs - it describes how to config the auth
21:46.55atpa8apfn: may be tomcat doesn't see the necessary roles by default and doesn't deploy?
21:47.14pfnthat wouldn't be the case
21:47.44atpa8adidn't think so :P
21:47.51tieTYTnaw, just my damn boss doing something to get rid of it
21:47.58tieTYTi installed from scratch and everything's cool again
21:48.24tieTYTdo people usually disable it on production servers?
21:48.58tieTYTwhatever, problem solved.  Thanks
21:53.11atpa8apfn: apparently servicemix integrates with tomcat too
21:53.24atpa8ahttp://servicemix.apache.org/tomcat-integration.html
21:54.04atpa8ajust FYI...
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22:01.35tieTYTdo one of these ant tasks actually start tomcat for you? http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/manager-howto.html#Executing%20Manager%20Commands%20With%20Ant
22:02.07tieTYTalternatively, i could use <exec>
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