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01:25.01KiraHello. I am running Tomcat 6.0.16 with JRE 6 update 7 on Windows XP Pro SP3 (and another instance with JRE 6 update 5 on Gentoo).
01:26.22KiraIf I want to require client-authenticated TLS for the access to a web application, where do I set it? At the application context level, the servlet level, or the servlet container level?
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01:35.49roadtKira i think what you are finding is <security-constraint> in web.xml (webapp deploy description).
01:36.19Kiraroadt: let me check that out. :D
01:36.20roadtKira  you can refer to servlet specification SRV.12.5
01:42.16jasonbHere's a tough Java question: How does one do a deep copy of a Java object's values to another existing instance?
01:43.07jasonbThe thing that makes my question tough is: I didn't say "clone" anywhere in my question.  I said "copy".  For some reason, all google turns up are articles where people are saying "copy" when they mean "clone".
01:48.33Kiracan't seem to locate the reference for the webapp deployment descriptor.
01:51.49roadtjasonb clone ,copy are different. agree.  but what's the exactly differnce between them ?
01:53.12jasonbroadt: clone() returns a newly created instance with values copied into it, whereas the copy method I'm asking about would copy values into an existing instance that I already have.
01:53.59Kirajasonb: unless you have a requirement for the reference to your copy target to not change, it doesn't seem to make a difference.
01:54.15jasonbKira: That's exactly the requirement I have.
01:54.27jasonbKira: So, they're quite a bit different.
01:54.32roadtjasonb i mean  interface CopyInable {   void copyIn(Object obj);  }  vs. interface Clonable ..
01:55.24roadtjasonb  in app construction or hierarchy,  they seems only little difference.
01:55.29jasonbroadt: I want a utility method I can call to do it.. via reflection.
01:55.52jasonbroadt: I don't want to construct anything.
01:56.00jasonbroadt: I want to copy.
01:56.04KiraDoes reflection tell you whether an object is immutable?
01:56.13jasonbYes.
01:56.13roadtjasonb  copyIn()method is bad? (just like clone() in std jdk)
01:56.42jasonbroadt: Where is copyIn()?  It's not part of java.lang.Object..
01:57.09roadtjasonb  i or you define it.  interface CopyInable {   void copyIn(Object obj);  }
01:57.44roadtjasonb i can't see how bad it is to define a interface for copy.
01:58.05jasonbroadt: It's unacceptable.
01:58.31jasonbroadt: All of the values I want to copy, they could be copied via reflection, so no modification of these classes is necessary.
01:58.59jasonbroadt: And, I didn't want to spend a bunch of time writing a reflection copy utility, especially if others have needed it.
01:59.16jasonbwill look through Apache commons to see if someone wrote one in there.
02:00.05roadtjasonb yep. maybe apache-common-bean worth a try.
02:01.27jasonbYeah.. I was just looking at that..
02:01.37jasonbThere's a BeanUtils.copyProperties() that *might* do it.
02:03.08roadti recall  you must keep the structure of instance is the same, if you use copyProperties.
02:03.19Kirahmm
02:03.37KiraIs the Servlet Specification 2.5 really just a maintenance release of 2.4?
02:04.44roadtKira i don't know. i only focus on servelt 2.4. it's enough for me..
02:04.47jasonbKira: Kind of.  There are always new features, and fixes.
02:05.10jasonbKira: I do like 2.5 best, and I use only 2.5.  There are new features in it that I really like.
02:05.36jasonbroadt: The structure of the source object is exactly the same as the destination object in my use case, so it might work fine.
02:06.02KiraThe thing is, there seems to be no PDF file for 2.5 at the JCP website.
02:06.04Kirahttp://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/mrel/jsr154/index.html
02:06.30Kirathat was the "maintenance release" page
02:06.36Kiraand it has a link to the "final release"
02:06.47Kirabut the "final release" turns out to be 2.4...
02:07.07jasonbKira: No, there's a 2.5 PDF.. let me get you the link.
02:09.03Kirajasonb: found it. :D
02:12.31jasonbIt's not easy to find.
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02:49.13Kiraoh crap
02:49.36KiraDoes Tomcat 6 support the Java EE specification (in addition to Servlet 2.5, that is)?
02:53.58jasonbKira: Tomcat supports the "web container" portions of the Java EE specification set.
02:54.43jasonbKira: It supports Java Servlets, JSP, and has its own implementation of a JNDI naming context.
02:54.57Kirajasonb: so it doesn't support the <security-constraint> element of the deployment descriptor?
02:55.05jasonbKira: It does.
02:55.30jasonbKira: Anything that goes into a web.xml file, Tomcat can deal with it.
02:56.18Kiraok, so even the <login-config> element.
02:56.24jasonbYes.
02:57.03KiraI thought some of these were not part of the "web container" portion of the specification set.
02:58.57jasonbKira: Well, if you had some examples, I could say whether Tomcat supports them, but if it's in the Java Servlet Specification, Tomcat supports it, or it's explicitly marked optional in the spec.
02:59.19jasonbSome things that are marked optional, Tomcat doesn't support, or doesn't support 100%.  But, those are things that are seldomly used.
02:59.26jasonb(and usually not that useful)
03:00.00jasonbYou should assume that Tomcat 6 supports everything that you could put in web.xml.
03:00.20KiraI see.
03:02.00jasonbWell, time to head home.  Have fun with it.  :)
03:02.09Kiraciao. :D
03:08.15KiraI'm still trying to figure out how to force client-certificate https with the access to certain URLs or servlets using web.xml.
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04:25.02karstensrageApache Tomcat/6.0-snapshot  diablo-1.5.0-b01
04:25.12karstensrageFreeBSD  6.1-RELEASE
04:25.58karstensrageam I using a Servlet 2.4+ container?
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04:48.05lykenyes
04:48.19lykenalthough ive never seen that jdk before
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06:13.37wandanaHello Everyone
06:14.12wandanaI would like to avoid installing tomcat as a service
06:14.32wandanaSo I just unpack it and run startup.bat
06:14.38wandanaThat works fine
06:15.02wandanaBut of course, when I log out tomcat is stopped too
06:15.45wandanaHow can I run tomcat and log off my computer without installing tomcat as a service?
06:22.17jasonbwandana: There is just one way I know to do that:  Run Linux.
06:23.16wandanaHey jasonb, well, unfortunately I need to run it with windows
06:23.37jasonbwandana: Then unfortunately there is no way to do what you're asking to do.
06:23.52wandanaSo, I need to install it as a service :(
06:24.12jasonbMicrosoft says you have to.
06:24.23wandanaKillBill
06:24.26jasonbBut, lucky you, there are other operating systems you could run.  :)
06:25.19wandanaYes, but since I have to develop an installer where tomcat is part of and which needs to run even if the user log off, ...
06:25.23wandanaDamn
06:25.48wandanaActually I want to avoid installing it as a service
06:26.01wandanaWhat to do if tomcat5 is already on the system?
06:26.12wandanaI cannot install tomcat6 as a service
06:26.16wandanathen
06:26.42wandanaEven the apache tomcat installer does not support that
06:27.03wandanaSo, the client would need to get rid of tomcat5
06:27.10wandanaReally bad
06:28.17jasonbThere are ways to install it yourself such that you can name it whatever you want.. and so that it won't conflict.
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09:33.31malic1hello all I have this message in my catalina.out "WARNING: JSF1033: Resource injection is DISABLED." what is the purpose of resource injection why should this be enabled I've heard that if your web.xml of your web applicaion is using version 2.4 it should instead be version 2.5 to enable Resource injection
09:34.02malic1I tried to modify my web.xml file to match version 2.5 but still I get this warning  JSF1033: Resource injection is DISABLED
09:34.10malic1what is the purpose of resource injection
09:46.35malic1I see there is a bug in the tomcat in this thread  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40820  
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11:11.34denisbrHello for all
11:15.41denisbrI'm using tomcat with apache, and I have the url server:8080/application , How I do for remove the 8080 in url, for access using server/application only ?
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13:12.10cbrianconhi everyone, I have a problem on Tomcat 6.0.16 to get a JNDI Resource I've declared in the server.xml configuration file...
13:12.11KiraDoes this channel have a bot? I forget.
13:12.20Kira~MemoryRealm
13:12.48cbrianconI'm using Linux Ubuntu
13:14.25cbrianconI've defined in the server.xml file a Resource tag in the <DefaultContext>, and in the web.xml of my webapp, I've defined a <resource-ref> tag
13:14.35cbrianconas specified in the tomcat6 book
13:15.40cbrianconbut in my webapp in Java, when I try to get the context resource, it just give me a NamingException
13:15.54cbrianconwhich means this resource is not known
13:16.08cbrianconhas someone meet this problem ?
13:17.50cbrianconmy tomcat runs on a JDK6 (if it can help)
13:22.31cbrianconI just want to connect to my database using the parameters I've specified in the JNDI resource...
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13:33.57malic1hello I've searched numerous forums and did some tweaks but I have a tomcat security or JSF problem http://pastebin.com/maf7537f I don't know how I could explicitly disable the security stuff to avoid a error listenerStart and warning  JSF1033: Resource injection is DISABLED.
13:37.25malic1I have in my web application lib dir: commons-beanutils-1.7.0.jar,  commons-logging-1.0.4.jar,  jhighlight-1.0.jar,        jsf-impl-1.2_04-p02.jar, nekohtml-0.9.5.jar,  richfaces-ui-3.2.0.GA.jar, commons-collections-3.2.jar,  el-api-1.0.jar, jsf-api-1.2_04-p02.jar , jstl-1.0.jar ,  richfaces-api-3.2.0.GA.jar,xercesImpl-2.4.0.jar, commons-digester-1.8.jar ,el-impl-1.0.jar , jsf-facelets-1.1.11a.jar, mysql-connector-java-5.1.5-bin.jar,richfaces-impl-3.2.0.GA
13:40.54malic1I tried to work instead with: jsf-api-1.1_02.jar   jsf-facelets-1.1.11a.jar jsf-impl-1.1_02.jar but these jsf1.1 versions didn't help me somehow I need to explicitly tell tomcat to allow resource injection so I also modified my web.xml file to match: <!--<web-app version="2.4" xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee"   xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"   xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee   http://java.sun.com/xml/n
13:41.35malic1But things still fail how can I explicitly tell Tomcat to enable resource injection
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14:05.19MHSLmalic1, i've told you the version must be 2.5 not 2.4
14:05.35MHSLwhy are you still using 2.4? what's the point of me telling you this yesterday?
14:06.27MHSLcbriancon, i've never known that is <DefaultContext> is there such thing on tomcat doc?
14:07.29malic1MHSL
14:07.48malic1if you look at the code you see I've commented out the version 2.4
14:07.59malic1and activated version 2.5
14:08.19MHSLi dont see 2.5 from the one you paste above
14:08.23malic1with the tags <!-- -->
14:08.28newboyguys, anyone know what this means?
14:08.32newboyhttp://pastebin.com/d2c88001b
14:08.36malic1 <web-app xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee" version="2.5"   xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee  http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd">
14:09.39malic1is this wron MHSL
14:10.38MHSLnewboy, check your hibernate config file and check whether you have this class com.xpn.xwiki.store.migration.hibernate.XWikiHibernateMigrationManager
14:11.28newboyok, i'll look, MHSL, I have this app in a folder called xwikiv2 but it would normally be in a folder called wiki
14:11.53newboywould this confuse tomcat i.e. so it wouldn't know where to get the migration manager class?
14:12.48MHSLno shouldnt be, all webapp specific jar files should be under WEB-INF/lib
14:13.06MHSLand WEB-INF/classes for other classes
14:13.30MHSLmalic1, that looks fine
14:13.43newboyyes, thats right
14:16.11MHSLmalic1, which version of tomcat are you using?
14:17.19malic1but its not solving the problem MHSL i chanced the web.xml file in /usr/local/metware-platform/platform/WEB-INF/ this unpacked dir I try to deploy without war symlinking its context xml file which is named platform.xml I use version 5.5 MHSL
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14:17.33MHSLmalic1, and what's your jsf version
14:17.41MHSLnvm it's on the log
14:18.26malic1MHSL do you mean this catalina.out message: INFO: Initializing Sun's JavaServer Faces implementation (1.2_04-b16-p02) for context 'metware-core'
14:18.56MHSLmalic1, another thing, tomcat 5 doesnt support servlet spec 2.5, only 2.4
14:19.02MHSLyou have to use tomcat 6
14:19.15MHSLsee the comparison http://tomcat.apache.org/
14:20.17cbrianconMHSL: the <DefaultContext> is defined in the apache tomcat 6 book, in the JNDI Resources chapter. It says : 1) Add a <Resource> tag in the <Context> element (in META-INF/context.xml) of the webapp, or in a <DefaultContext> subelement of the <Host> element (in the server.xml file)...  2) ensure that a <resource-ref> element is defined in the web.xml ...
14:20.21malic1but the deployment was tested by other programmers and its running on older versions of tomcat thanx MHSL I'll check
14:21.04MHSLcbriancon, let me check the doc
14:21.56MHSLhm there is DefaultContext link, but the link goes to 404
14:22.24MHSLcbriancon, another thing, what's your webapp context path?
14:22.47newboyMHSL: when it says "Could not create a DBCP pool." what does that mean, is that a type of database?
14:22.59MHSLnewboy, no, dbcp is database connection pool
14:23.16newboyok,
14:23.18MHSLnewboy, it should be configuration problem
14:23.32newboyyeah, just not sure how to rectify
14:23.33newboyit
14:23.48MHSLcheck the hibernate config file
14:24.00MHSLhibernate.cfg.xml by default (if i'm not wrong)
14:24.14cbrianconMHSL: what do you mean by my webapp context path ? the webapp name?
14:24.51MHSLcbriancon, how are you deploying your webapp?
14:25.07cbrianconit is a maven project
14:25.13cbrianconthat build a WAR
14:25.41MHSLwhat's the war name?
14:25.48cbrianconconstellation
14:26.36MHSLcbriancon, so you put the war file to tomcat webapps folder?
14:26.38cbrianconso you think the <DefaultContext> tag is not the good one ?
14:26.52cbrianconI use the manager interface
14:27.01cbrianconto deploy it into tomcat6
14:27.06MHSLoh ok
14:27.12MHSLcbriancon, i never use it myself
14:28.23MHSLand there is not much documentation about it on tomcat website, since the link goes to 404
14:28.26cbrianconok I think I've found something interesting while we were talking
14:28.48cbrianconin java I do : final DataSource ds = (DataSource) ctx.lookup("Coverages");
14:28.53cbrianconbut it fails
14:28.59MHSLwhat's your resource name?
14:29.03MHSLusually it's jdbc/name
14:29.07cbrianconbut if I do final DataSource ds1 = (DataSource) ctx.lookup("java:/comp/env/Coverages");
14:29.22cbrianconit does not lead to a NamingException
14:29.25MHSLand yes you need this prefix java:/comp/env
14:29.33cbrianconjust Coverages the resource name
14:29.35cbrianconI've defined
14:29.56cbrianconI don't really understand why it is required, this prefix :)
14:30.03MHSLhttp://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/jndi-datasource-examples-howto.html
14:30.14cbrianconyeah I'm on this page ^^
14:30.37MHSLWhen accessing the datasource programmatically, remember to prepend java:/comp/env to your JNDI lookup
14:30.51cbrianconohh
14:30.58cbriancongood thing to know
14:31.10MHSL^ from that page
14:31.37cbrianconthanks for your answer, I will keep trying in this way
14:32.09newboyMHSL: the problem was that I forgot to put the database .jar in the lib folder
14:32.12newboythanks
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14:43.28malic1MHSL I have a question I have a situation where previous developers have created 3 interdependent projects 1 bigmet which connects to a mysql db with help of a database.ini file 2 metbeans and 3 metweb I don't get all the feedback I need from the previous developers but I guess that the database.ini allows communication with the middle tier and metweb needs to communicate with metbeans and bigmet afaik I can ant build  the bigmet and metbeans but I must be
14:44.11malic1this metweb needs to communicate with bigmet and metbeans what is generally done to achieve this by programmers
14:52.54malic1(04:18:57 PM) MHSL: malic1, another thing, tomcat 5 doesnt support servlet spec 2.5, only 2.4
14:53.29malic1MHSL  my catalina.out sayd: INFO: Initializing Sun's JavaServer Faces implementation (1.2_04-b16-p02) for context 'metware-core'
14:53.42malic1this means I'm using version 2.4 or not ?
15:00.17malic1I'm totally confusing things
15:00.23malic1specs servlets
15:00.33malic1ignore me
15:02.52MHSLthat doesnt say anything, that's the jsf version
15:03.20MHSLmalic1, to be able to use resource injection you need to use servlet spec 2.5, as mentioned on the website i gave you yesterday (if you even read it)
15:03.37KiraHow do I force certain parts of my web application to accept POST requests only? It's not done by editing the web.xml, is it?
15:05.11malic1MHSL I had to reboot my sys constantly I logged the talk with you partially   (04:47:48 PM) MHSL: malic1, with the resource injection problem, can you check the webapp web.xml whether it's using version 2.5  
15:05.21malic1but lost the website do you still have it for me
15:05.59malic1do you mean this one:   http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=17933&tstart=0  
15:08.46MHSLmalic1, just open and see for yourself
15:09.17MHSLKira, never see that kind of configuration before
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15:14.51akohlihi!  is it possible to setup incoming filters across all deployed apps and not configured per app? kind of like a container filter or service filter?
15:15.04cbrianconMHSL: if it interests you, I've succeeded :) You was right saying the <DefaultContext> tag is not good, in fact the definition of the JNDI resource has to be done in context.xml file, not in the server.xml one ^^
15:16.12cbrianconnow I've my connection to the database, thanks a lot
15:21.28MHSLcbriancon, that's good, although for your information (according to jasonb) it's completely fine to put your jndi resource in server.xml if it's fine for you to restart your tomcat everytime you need to do some changes to your database resource
15:22.13Kiraswitching computer
15:22.14Kirabrb
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15:23.11MHSLcbriancon, although personally I also prefer to put any webapp specific config in context.xml rather than server.xml, which is supposed to define global configs
15:23.24cbrianconoh really? I am interest to know where to put the Resource tag in the server.xml file, since under the <GlobalNamingResources> it has not work
15:24.43cbrianconbut putting this resource in the tomcat/conf/context.xml file will allow all webservice to use it too, is it right ?
15:25.06MHSLcbriancon,
15:25.06MHSL<PROTECTED>
15:25.07MHSL<PROTECTED>
15:25.18MHSLcbriancon, http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/globalresources.html
15:25.40MHSLi believe you need ResourceLink in your context to use the global resource
15:25.50MHSLi didnt see this before, i think they just updated the doc
15:26.05MHSLor i missed it
15:26.19cbrianconit is weird, since it works for me without defining this ResourceLink tag
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15:26.51cbrianconI've just put a <resource-ref> in the web.xml file of my webapp
15:26.59MHSLcbriancon, that's if you're using GlobalNamingResources
15:27.11MHSLnot declaring Resource in your context
15:27.48cbrianconahah ok, I see I've mixed several things
15:27.57MHSLcheck the page above
15:28.08MHSLit's clearer now
15:35.54KiraOn a related note to my earlier question about forcing the http request method: forcing the use of HTTPS, on the other hand, can be done by using <security-constraint> in web.xml, right?
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15:51.14MHSLKira, yes you can
15:52.18MHSLKira, i think you can use this <transport-guarantee>CONFIDENTIAL</transport-guarantee>
15:52.27MHSLi never tried it, so you can try it out
16:04.41jasonbYes, that's the way, and it works.
16:05.25jasonbheads to work
16:05.55Kiraalright
16:05.57Kirathanks guys
16:06.10KiraI'll catch some sleep now
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16:58.43jasonbTomcat 6.0.18 has been officially voted stable today, and the release will be announced shortly.
17:01.25CharlesHello, can someone tell me how can I configurate jsp for iis?
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17:03.41CharlesI have tried to find answer in google, however, I can not find the current answer?
17:06.42CharlesAnybody here?
17:10.34karstensragewhats up?
17:11.44CharlesCould you please tell me how can I setup tomcat for iis?
17:13.56karstensrageiis?
17:14.00karstensrageiis is a webserver?
17:14.02karstensrageiirc
17:15.21Charlesyeah, the default webserver in windows
17:16.23Charlesby the way, where are you from
17:16.42karstensrageearth how about you?
17:17.07Charlesme too
17:18.03Charlestomcat for iis, do you know how to configurate?
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17:24.29karstensragewhat about jfgi?
17:24.55karstensrageoh
17:25.05karstensragewhen I jfgi the second link seems promising
17:25.19karstensragehttp://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc-archive/jk2/jk/iishowto.html
17:25.34karstensragemaybe your google-fu is lacking
17:47.04jasonblikes the jfgi acronym :)
17:47.18karstensragetoo
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18:25.10Guschtelhi, i'm using tomcat-6.0.10 with Java 1.6.0_00 on SunOS. I'm trying to deploy a liferay app to tomcat and i've set common.loader ind catalina.properties to include ${catalina.home}/lib/ext/*.jar but in the logs tomcat complains on startup that it doesn't find classes which are in this jars. Is there any way i can debug this further why tomcat doesn't load them?
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18:33.04Guschtelit seems to work fine when i copy all jars from lib/ext to lib/
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18:33.11Guschtelbut i don't really like this...
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19:32.58Guschtelanyone knows if common.loader still works in tomcat 6?
19:37.54jasonbIt does if you configure it properly in catalina.properties.
19:38.43Guschtelhm
19:39.07Guschtelcommon.loader=${catalina.home}/lib,${catalina.home}/lib/*.jar,${catalina.home}/lib/ext/*.jar <- i can't see anything wrong?
19:41.32jasonbIt should actually be ${catalina.base} instead of ${catalina.home}.
19:41.42jasonbIt may not make a difference in your case.
19:42.23jasonbBut, also, if you're trying to separate out a common loader from the regular loader, then you don't want to add the same dirs to the path of the common loader, you want to add different paths.
19:42.43Guschteli just added the last part, thats why i took catalina.home
19:44.16jasonbYou should really make it more like ${catalina.base}/common/lib,${catalina.base}/common/lib/*.jar,${catalina.base}/common/classes
19:44.39jasonbThe whole ext/*.jar thing should just be removed.. and you should put all jars in common/lib/.
19:44.42Guschtelok i'll try that
19:45.17jasonbDon't forget to mkdir -p common/lib and mkdir -p common/classes
19:46.00jasonbYou might also remind the liferay guys that Tomcat 6 is the latest stable version of Tomcat.  :)
19:46.27jasonbheads to lunch
19:46.39GuschtelI'm using tomcat 6, the thing is that i'm not using one of the liferays bundles
19:46.47Guschtelbc i have other apps running on that tomcat
19:48.00Guschtelwohoo, with base its works
19:48.05Guschteljasonb, you just made my day
19:48.15jasonbGuschtel: I'm glad it works.
19:48.19Guschtelthanks :)
19:48.56jasonbYou're welcome.
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