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03:16.48phoenix_Hello all
03:17.19phoenix_I'm trying to figure out how to do virtual hosting in tomcat.
03:17.27phoenix_But the documents seem very vague.
03:18.24phoenix_can someone help?
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03:22.11phoenix_Tomcat v.5.5, java 1.6.x, WinXP.
03:22.38phoenix_Trying to set up virtual hosts. Can't find a coherent document on how to do it. Can someone help?
03:25.25cacctusTomcat v.5.5, java 1.6.x, WinXP. Trying to create virtual hosts. Can someone help?
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03:29.39cacktusTomcat v.5.5, java 1.6.x, WinXP. Trying to setup virtual hosts. Can someone help?
03:31.21cacktusI can't see any response. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
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04:23.38b3tahi,any of you can give me a link to cliet authentication using certificate in tomcat
04:23.49b3tanot able to a get good doc
04:23.51b3ta:(
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05:03.43SpunkMeYeRhi all..
05:04.08SpunkMeYeRi'm using tomcat 5
05:04.23SpunkMeYeRjava version "1.6.0_07"
05:04.34SpunkMeYeROS using CentOS 5.2
05:04.52SpunkMeYeReach time i start tomcat5 service i got an error
05:05.16SpunkMeYeRthis is an error i got : http://pastebin.com/m47b0f927
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06:46.48onatshello, i just installed tomcat6 on ubuntu 8.10..
06:47.04onatswhere should my CATALINA_HOME point to? doesn't that get set automatically when the server is run?
06:47.12onatsits running as a background service/process...
06:48.48onats!CATALINA_HOME
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07:26.00SpunkMeYeR-84hi all
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07:26.35Dr-Smithhi all..
07:27.01Dr-Smithi'm having problem starting tomcat5 service
07:27.28Dr-Smithjava version "1.6.0_07"
07:27.34Dr-Smithusing tomcat5
07:27.40Dr-SmithOS CentOS 5.2
07:27.44Dr-Smithanybody could help me?
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07:39.57onatsDr-Smith, what's your error?
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07:53.15CarstenP2Hi! Anyone awake?
07:53.41Dr-Smithhi onats, please check this : http://pastebin.com/m47b0f927
07:53.54Dr-Smithi've uploaded the error message
07:55.34onatscan you try using a JDK instead?
07:56.03CarstenP2I've a small question concering the tomcat/lib folder. I've different webapps deployed, and a lot of these need jar files, that I have to copy in the lib folder. I would like to somehow "cluster" the lib folder, that i can keep track of which webapp uses which jar files. Is there a solution for such a problem?
07:56.35onatsand i think you're supposed to use java 5 up
07:56.35onatshttp://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/setup.html
07:56.50onatsIf using a J2SE 1.4 JRE, the compatibility package must be downloaded and expanded inside the folder where Tomcat was installed.
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07:58.35SpunkMeYeRhi onats..
07:58.44SpunkMeYeRis Dr-Smith
07:58.52onats<PROTECTED>
07:58.55onats<PROTECTED>
08:00.15SpunkMeYeRim using java 1.6.0_07
08:00.32onatsbut your logs say its 1.4.2
08:01.17SpunkMeYeRif i type : "java -version" it will be show java version "1.6.0_07"
08:01.24SpunkMeYeRJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06)
08:02.00SpunkMeYeRwhat is that mean??
08:04.49onatsthat should be right.
08:04.50onatsenv
08:05.07onatsi dont understand why your pastebin shows some 1.4.2 version
08:05.45SpunkMeYeRme either :(
08:07.09SpunkMeYeRthis is the new log : http://pastebin.com/m532cdff5
08:08.55SpunkMeYeRi've been trying to solve this problem over a week, but i came up with nothing
08:15.25Dr-Smithclear
08:16.45onatsi myself am having some issues with 5.5 and 6.0
08:17.01Dr-Smithsame issues??
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08:19.40onatsno
08:19.41onatsdifferent
08:20.02onatsfor 6.0, i cant start  my application, something to do with directory permissions. uninstalled it, installed tomcat5.5
08:20.08onatsnow i cant access the web manager
08:20.08onatsgah
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09:01.57[worm]hello ,i've successfully installed tomcat on ubuntu and i'm always getting 404 error when trying to access to my project directory
09:03.02[worm]And i've added this line to server.xml <Context path="/project" docBase="/home/user/project" debug="0" reloadable="true" />
09:03.42[worm]ubuntu gutsy, java version "1.6.0_03", tomcat 5.5
09:04.16CarstenP2I've a small question concering the tomcat/lib folder. I've different webapps deployed, and a lot of these need additional jar files, that I have to copy in the lib folder. I would like to somehow "tidy up" the lib folder, that i can keep track of which webapp uses which jar files. Is there a solution for such a problem?
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09:05.44CarstenP2Can I create, for example different lib subfolders? Like tomcat/lib/hibernatestuff  and /tomcat/lib/jirastuff , etc.. ?
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09:16.26LogiI'm looking at a thread dump from a customer running tomcat on a fairly hefty multi-processor server. They've increased the max req. handl. threads to 2000 (which may be excessive, but that's another matter) and it looks like ~1300 of those threaeds are out in 'java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method)' under org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnection(ChannelSocket.java:685) -> receive(...) -> read(...) -> java.io stuff
09:19.52Logithat looks like a *lot* of threads waiting for a client sending a complete request. Or could it be something else? network i/o problems? threads waiting for more requests on a socket with keep-alives? threads waiting on sockets that have actually had their clients give up because the server didn't start reading the request soon enough?
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09:23.41Dr-Smithhi guys why my tomcat5 doesnt have startup.sh ??
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10:01.16deeboLogi: could just be iowait?
10:01.22deebodo you monitor it realtime or take a snapshot
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10:13.02Logideebo: I got sent a snapshot
10:13.20Logideebo: but I can suggest to those guys things to monitor
10:14.19deebotell them to log tcp sockets in their different states
10:14.34Logideebo: but I'd mostly expect a request from the client to come in a single tcp packet and to be read without having to block
10:14.38deebolike how many open, how many waiting for close timeout etc etc
10:15.01Logiyeah, I'll do that. And perhaps dump vmstat to a log file as well
10:15.08deebowell im not 100% on this but i guess network traffic is blocking?
10:15.21deeboie results in iowait
10:16.22LogiI'm seeing threads in the RUNNING state out in the SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method), so either they're all reading gobs of data, or they're really blocked but the jvm doesn't know it
10:17.00Logiand these aren't file uploads or anything, they'
10:17.15Logire relatively small ajax (JSON-RPC) requests
10:17.44deeboweird
10:17.50deebocant tell more without knowing about the app
10:18.49Logiit's just that the problem seems to be occuring before the app gets the requests at all
10:19.13Logimost likely out in the OS and network setup though
10:19.38Logihow are http keep-alives handled by tomcat? it doesn't keep a thread busy for each such session?
10:19.48deebodo they use some proxy?
10:19.50deeboor http 1.1
10:21.35LogiThey don't use a proxy, but it's on the UK JANET network, the Joint Academic Network, and some sites on there may have transparent proxies and NAT boxes and whatnot.
10:22.17Logiand I don't know about http 1.1. I'll ask them both these things
10:24.21deebohttp 1.1 is kept alive
10:24.34deeboso those just could be "online users"
10:25.48Logiapparently they had a repeat outage yesterday and they peaked at 2000 concurrent users, which is also the number of RHTs
10:26.19Logiand tomcat actually keeps a thread busy for each http 1.1 session?
10:26.37Logior, within the keep-alive interval for those sessions?
10:26.50deeboguess its in the http 1.1 spec
10:26.56deebodunno how tomcat handles it
10:30.41LogiThe app, btw, is an IPTV middleware system with a javascript+html client running on set-top boxes or, in this case, set-top-box simulators and talking to a java server over JSON-RPC after launch.
10:31.10Logiit's basically an ajax application which happens to be overlaid over a video feed
10:40.23Logiah, this is running the AJP/1.3 connector and those threads blocked on socket reading will be waiting for apache to forward something, so that's completely natural
10:41.25deebohrr :P
10:41.30deeboi have a strong distaste for using ajp
11:22.31Logianyway, the majority of our threads are waiting to hear from ajp, so that may be holding things up. After that, we've got 126 threads hung inside Hibernate because of this resolved issue: ttp://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-2645, some 95 threads hung waiting for a DB connection, which is probably just a too-small pool size or too few connections accepted by the DB.
11:23.18Logiso update hibernate, make thread pool and connection pool sizes more balanced and tell them to check their apache config and go back to writing code.
11:23.23Logideebo: thanks for the chat
11:25.43deebonpwhat db?
11:25.46deebo-np
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11:36.17Logideebo: mysql atm, although I'd prefer to move to postgres or use the Oracle license they've paid dearly for
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11:47.40sledgeashello
11:47.45sledgeashow can I configure my gentoo's tomcat-6 (launched under root/tomcat privileges) to work with my normal user's eclipse tomcat plugin: to successfully launching tomcat so it can read html files (servlets work!), updating context definitions, debugging application -- all this currently fails..
11:54.17deebofor developmetn dont install some packaged binary
11:54.35deebojust get the package from tomcat.apache.org and unpack to ~/tomcat/ or something
12:02.00CarstenP2I've a small question concering the tomcat/lib folder. I've different webapps deployed, and a lot of these need additional jar files, that I have to copy in the lib folder. I would like to somehow "tidy up" the lib folder, that i can keep track of which webapp uses which jar files. Is there a solution for such a problem?
12:02.06CarstenP2Can I create, for example different lib subfolders? Like tomcat/lib/hibernatestuff  and /tomcat/lib/jirastuff , etc.. ?
12:05.21LogiCarstenP2: why not put these jars in the webapp's WEB-INF/lib folder instead?
12:16.37b3tahey,browser based client authentication will work on ip addresses?
12:17.03b3tathe one where we import certificates to the browser for auth?
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12:44.18onatshi, i'm getting a java.lang.RuntimePermission accessClassInPackage.org.apache.coyote.http11
12:44.21onatshow do i resolve this?
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12:47.02Frees1hello i got tomcat 6.0.18 setup and when its running it point to tomcat-6.0.18\webapps\ROOT which runs the default tomcat page, but my webapp on d:\webapps\ how do i change that to load that page insted, can any able to help me to configure that
12:47.43gantucheck server.xml
12:48.29Frees1i open up the server.xml, do i have to create a new host block?
12:51.41gantucheck this http://os-lists.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5303618&messageID=10291642
12:52.28Frees1thanks :)
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12:53.27onatscan anyone help me?
12:53.33onatsi'm getting runtime permissions
12:53.46MHSLonats, where did you get tomcat?
12:53.49onatsjava.lang.RuntimePermission exceptions
12:54.02onatsMHSL, i'm on ubuntu, and installed it via its package manager...
12:54.27MHSLonats, if you're a newbie, download and use the binary package from tomcat website instead
12:54.28onatssudo apt-get install tomcat5.5
12:54.52onatsMHSL, i see.. ok noted. will have to uninstall everything first. but can you tell me why this is happening?
12:55.09MHSLonats, check the security manager whether it's active and the security policy
12:55.22MHSLonats, you may want to disable security manager for testing first
12:55.42onatsok, how do i do that?
12:55.42MHSLFrees1, you can create a context file for your ROOT webapp to point to D:\webapps
12:56.01MHSLi dont know if you're not using the official binary package from tomcat website
12:57.08onatsok noted..
12:57.10Frees1im using the offical binary package, just not sure how to set up
12:57.14onatsi'll just do it that way then...
13:05.00Frees1any examples on how to set up my own contect file?
13:07.24MHSLFrees1, 1 question, does D:\webapps only contain 1 webapp or multiple webapps under different directories?
13:13.02Frees1just one
13:13.32MHSLcreate a file called ROOT.xml under CATALINA_HOME/conf/Catalina/localhost and put this in the file <Context docBase="D:\webapps" />
13:13.53MHSLthen that will be your default webapp
13:22.36Frees1well my web.xml is on D:\webapps\WEB-INF\web.xml is that right, but still loading the dafault page
13:23.03MHSLthat should be fine
13:23.18MHSLremove the ROOT directory from CATALINA_HOME/webapps
13:23.22MHSLor rename it
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13:59.23digital_poetTomcat: 6.016, Java 1.6.0_06, OS, Linux 2.6 kernal (SuSE I think).... question coming... ;)
13:59.49digital_poetWe have a directory in our 'work' structure with the name <servletname>-filestore
13:59.57digital_poetwhich is now pushing 3GBs
14:00.04digital_poetCan anybody tell me what this used for?
14:00.10digital_poetthey look like serialised sessions
14:00.16digital_poetbut appear to be growing indefinately
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14:20.23titan21hello - could someone help with an issue i am having with a UserDatabase realm config issue?
14:22.52titan21is anyone here actually? lol
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14:33.17CarstenP2is there a way to give a second classpath to tomcat?
14:34.01CarstenP2like he is using /lib ... and i would like that he uses ~/somestrangejars/strange/folder/
14:34.19titan21are you looking to ADD additional jars?
14:35.53CarstenP2titan21: yes
14:36.15titan21can u not add them to the relevant webapp/lib folder?
14:36.41CarstenP2titan21: no, in case of an update of the webapp, everything is fubared
14:37.10titan21then u could add them to the CATALINA/lib folder and they will be picked up there
14:37.19CarstenP2titan21: additionally, there a some webapps using the same jars
14:37.48titan21putting them in CATALINA/lib will make the jars available to all
14:38.48CarstenP2titan21: yes thats true, but I would like to have additional folders like the lib folder
14:39.15CarstenP2so that i can just mv * all the crap of certain webapps in my new folder
14:40.26titan21can u explain a little more and I'll try and help?
14:41.31CarstenP2hmm, i am not sure what else i can say
14:42.01CarstenP2lets assume that my tomcat hosts 15 webapps. 10 of them need a lot of same jars
14:42.02MHSLCarstenP2, everything is fubared -> what do you mean? as far as i know you cant add a classpath to tomcat
14:42.25CarstenP2so i put the jars inside the tomcat/jar folder.
14:42.46titan21u could run two instances of tomcat but am not sure that is what u want
14:43.31CarstenP2the next 5 webapps need also some common jars. but i dont like to put them inside the tomcat/lib folder bcs they got "mixed up" with the jars of the first 10 webapps
14:43.49titan21mixed up?
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14:44.37CarstenP2titan21: you must look at it this way. the server runs for like 6 months, it is working, i dont look at it anymore
14:45.11CarstenP2then i try to remove 5 webapps, and i just dont know anymore which jars belonged to that webapp "package"
14:46.05titan21well the hard way would be too at the code for each webapp and determine which classes they are using - the determine which jars conatin the classes - sound snasty tho
14:47.00CarstenP2titan21: yeah, it is a bit annoying.
14:47.41CarstenP2so i will just put all the info in a shell script
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14:50.22CarstenP2nevertheless, additional configurable classpathes would be GREAT. but i think there a more important things to do
14:50.35titan21yeh - would be nice
14:50.52titan21hey carsten - u know anything about MemroyRealms?
14:51.26CarstenP2no, I am sorry, I dont know, are they for clustering tomcat?
14:51.39titan21nah - just an access thing
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15:09.50zupaxxi got this error in tomcat
15:09.51zupaxxrg.apache.commons.digester.Digester endElement
15:09.51zupaxxSEVERE: End event threw exception
15:09.51zupaxxjava.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
15:15.57zupaxxhi i got this error in tomcat
15:15.58zupaxxProcessing Context configuration file URL file:D:\cygwin\opt\sites\vatravelcard.com\apps\tomcat\conf\Catalina\localhost\alt.xml
15:15.59zupaxxNov 25, 2008 12:26:47 AM org.apache.commons.digester.Digester endElement
15:15.59zupaxxSEVERE: End event threw exception
15:15.59zupaxxjava.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
15:39.02LogiWhen my EndEvent comes, I hope it throws an exception and aborts.
15:39.23Logihas nothing useful to add to the conversation
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17:45.52SpaceAceXHi, when I install tomcat5 (5.5.27) with admin & webapps on fedora (9) it installed gcj-java 1.5.0 also. But ppl informed me i sitll need to install another java. Is this true?
17:46.32zupaxxtomcat 5,jvm 1.4, winxp local dev ----
17:46.39zupaxxthis error sprung up
17:46.40zupaxxProcessing Context configuration file URL file:D:\cygwin\opt\sites\vatravelcard.com\apps\tomcat\conf\Catalina\localhost\alt.xml
17:46.40zupaxxNov 25, 2008 4:22:10 AM org.apache.commons.digester.Digester endElement
17:46.40zupaxxSEVERE: End event threw exception
17:47.06zupaxxi validated the alt.xml its ok
17:47.56zupaxxwhat the hell is this error
17:47.58zupaxx!
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20:48.59T_Romanhi, how do I send string method parameters to a sever when using axis and tomcat?
20:49.51T_RomanI hse tomcat 6, java6 and win xp
20:49.56T_Roman*use
20:51.22T_Romananother try: eclipse version: 3.4.1, tomcat: 6.0.18
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21:47.26SpaceAceXHi, when I install tomcat5 (5.5.27) with admin & webapps on fedora (9) it installed gcj-java 1.5.0 also. But ppl informed me i sitll need to install another java. Is this true?
22:18.34jasonbSpaceAceX: You should use Sun Java, not gcj.
22:25.44SpaceAceXand whats the yum command to install sun java?
22:28.33jasonbWell, it isn't in the Fedora repositories.
22:28.41jasonbThere's an openjdk that is arguably from Sun, but that's not the one I'm talking about.
22:28.54jasonbOpenJDK will be the way to go in about a year or something.
22:29.23jasonbRight now, the only way to get Sun Java that I know of is to go to java.sun.com and download the self-extracting RPM and install that by hand.
22:29.34jasonbIt's not very hard to do, but it's not a single yum install command.
22:30.33jasonbI did find out that there is a jpackage RPM of one or more Sun Java JVM, but I don't know the details about installing it -- I haven't tried that yet, so I don't know how complex that gets.
22:40.58SpaceAceXalrighty so i uninstall the gcj-java install the sun java 1.5.0 jre then do i have to config anythign else?
22:41.18jasonbI strongly recommend using Java 1.6.0_10
22:41.26SpaceAceXjre or jdk?
22:41.29jasonbJDK.
22:41.31SpaceAceXk
22:41.48jasonbYou have to also tell your Tomcat which Java to use.
22:41.49SpaceAceXand then anythign else like anythign i have to issue like commands so tomcat5 can find the java_home
22:42.05jasonbSetting JAVA_HOME in the right place will do that.
22:42.16SpaceAceXalrighty i will give it a try
22:42.20jasonbI don't really know where the right place is for the Fedora Tomcat package.
22:42.58SpaceAceXwell tomcat5 libraries and webapps are in the /var/lib/tomcat5 while the config, xml files are in /etc/tomcat5
22:43.20jasonbOh yeah.
22:47.36SpaceAceXdo i have to play with alternatives --config java?
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