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| 01:32.01 | hmm_not_sure | does tomcat not like redirect of SSL over iptables? |
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| 02:38.34 | jasonb | hmm_not_sure: Yup, it works great.. as long as you also set proxyHost and proxyPort on your Connector element. |
| 02:39.45 | jasonb | hmm_not_sure: Yes, and redirectPort should really say 443, not 8443. |
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| 02:50.16 | hmm_not_sure | ok |
| 02:51.04 | hmm_not_sure | i go from desktop httpd 443 --------> server 443 ---> iptables on server ---> 8443 ----> tomcat 8443 |
| 02:51.25 | hmm_not_sure | i think the 3 you mention are in production... |
| 02:51.34 | hmm_not_sure | the 8080 redirectport is 443 |
| 02:51.51 | hmm_not_sure | the proxyport is 443 in the 8443 context and context listens on 8443 |
| 02:52.07 | hmm_not_sure | I tried ti that ay and it still connected.....the dropped connection |
| 02:52.12 | hmm_not_sure | same as b4 |
| 02:52.40 | hmm_not_sure | https://myserverURL |
| 02:52.50 | hmm_not_sure | I see using netstat the thing connect...... |
| 02:52.59 | hmm_not_sure | i have the .keystore file pointed to in server.xml |
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| 10:22.41 | steveo | Qick question, when running tomcat, do people access java apps right from the apache document root or does it have to access trough tomcat running on a different por, i.e. :8080 |
| 10:23.46 | MHSL | steveo, you have to deploy your webapp to tomcat, it has nothing to do with apache |
| 10:24.13 | MHSL | steveo, you can access your webapp via apache or to tomcat directly, depending on your setup |
| 10:27.54 | steveo | MHSL: I don't expect a full explination, but if you could give me some search topics for what part of the tomcat/ apache process governs deployment through the same virtual host entries of apache vs. through just tomcat itself i'd appreciate it |
| 10:29.05 | MHSL | steveo, are you going with tomcat standalone or tomcat behind apache way? |
| 10:30.25 | steveo | idelay tomcat behid apache i'd image. I'd like java running through tomcat accessable in the same paths of a standard apache config, so i could set .jar .php and .html next to eachother in the same document root and they all be accessable from www.example.net/ |
| 10:30.42 | steveo | on the standard html port 81, not through a special port like 8080 |
| 10:31.11 | MHSL | steveo, in that case, you may use either mod_proxy or mod_jk on apache to connect to tomcat, hence apache will be in front of tomcat |
| 10:33.37 | steveo | okay thats locical, so apache called for java go through mod_jk to tomcat, tomcat processes and send it back to apache |
| 10:33.53 | steveo | so apache is just proxying requests to tomcat and back. where tomcat is the acutaly server |
| 10:34.09 | steveo | does that sound correct? |
| 10:34.09 | MHSL | yes, if the requests are supposed to be handled by tomcat |
| 10:34.17 | steveo | so my reading shoul be on mod_jk |
| 10:34.27 | MHSL | either mod_jk or mod_proxy, your choice |
| 10:34.42 | steveo | is there a preformance or general preferance to one or the other? |
| 10:35.13 | MHSL | according to jasonb (if i remember correctly) mod_proxy is supposed to be faster than mod_jk |
| 10:35.26 | MHSL | of course direct connection to tomcat is the ideal way |
| 10:41.00 | dvayanu | i think mod_rpoxy_ajp is best for 2.2 |
| 10:41.05 | dvayanu | proxy_ajp |
| 10:41.11 | dvayanu | mod_jk is for 2.0 |
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| 10:41.27 | steveo | MHSL: So by direct connection to tomcat your refering to the server on its own, so would it be ideal in an apache tomcat setup to just run tomcat on a differnt port and call the java links on that port? |
| 10:41.32 | steveo | or vice verse |
| 10:41.43 | steveo | because for tomcat to be accessed directly it would need to be running on 80 right |
| 10:42.04 | MHSL | steveo, you can configure tomcat to listen on a different port |
| 10:42.08 | MHSL | it can be any port |
| 10:42.11 | dvayanu | steveo: you can use portmap or jspc |
| 10:42.16 | dvayanu | js-something |
| 10:42.42 | steveo | MHSL: I'm sorry these questions are a bit bassic i'm just re-affirming myself at this point.. ideal setup if all one wanted to do was run tomcat would be to just install it and run it on :80. |
| 10:43.06 | steveo | common miscomception of tomcat is thats it has anything to do with apache |
| 10:43.16 | dvayanu | it comes from apache :-) |
| 10:43.19 | dvayanu | tomcat.apache.org |
| 10:43.30 | MHSL | yes, although that's incorrect, apache has nothing to do with tomcat |
| 10:43.30 | steveo | other then the apache foundation making it |
| 10:43.33 | dvayanu | i think the misconception here is to assume apache == httpd |
| 10:43.51 | steveo | yes, apache makes it.. but it doen't need the apache web server, its compleatly indpended of httpd and httpds ancestory |
| 10:44.01 | cabra1 | But it is not the Apache server |
| 10:44.08 | steveo | dvayanu: compleatly aggree |
| 10:44.38 | steveo | that wold be a great main page additon for tomcat.apache.org |
| 10:44.46 | steveo | tomcat != httpd |
| 10:45.31 | dvayanu | steveo: thats what this channel and the mailing list is for :-) |
| 10:45.56 | dvayanu | but i hink its actually a part of the FAQs |
| 10:46.01 | steveo | dvayanu: well you helped me out, i appreciate it |
| 10:46.30 | dvayanu | you welcome |
| 10:46.34 | steveo | i'm dgging the powered by list on the wiki, etrade and the weatherchannel cought my eye |
| 10:47.18 | steveo | i've delt in parts with resin and tomcat but its so infreqent my mind is at a lost ;) |
| 10:48.04 | dvayanu | back in the tomcat 4 and resin 3 times, resin was faster |
| 10:48.42 | dvayanu | but there are no real benchmarks since some years |
| 10:49.35 | dvayanu | as for "powered by" many companies do not say that they run on this or that web container |
| 10:50.21 | dvayanu | personally, i think that we run one of the most traffic intensive sites |
| 10:50.24 | dvayanu | with tomcat |
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| 10:56.02 | steveo | ya, i've only dablled in that java world. I used to think java hated me based on problem i've seen with java programs |
| 10:56.17 | steveo | i think the reality is there were just a lot of people who can't code well ;) |
| 10:56.34 | steveo | and no doubt a good bit of changes in the java realeases of the past |
| 10:59.34 | dvayanu | there is no java world |
| 10:59.53 | dvayanu | people in the desktop environment do completely different things as people in webapps |
| 11:00.03 | dvayanu | than there is mobile |
| 11:00.07 | dvayanu | and research |
| 11:00.08 | dvayanu | and whatnot |
| 11:00.13 | dvayanu | there are a lot of java worlds |
| 11:00.14 | dvayanu | :-) |
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| 11:06.13 | deebo | and i wouldnt expect a guy who chose 'steveo' as his nick to be too compatible with computers :P |
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| 11:50.04 | steveo | deebo: ya well, i'd say I do okay. but java isn't one of my main topics.. You know the more you learn the more you realize no one can no it all |
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| 12:48.25 | rjd | Hi. We use apache in front of tomcat. Does anyone know how to serve pack:tag? SLince the files are nog saved on disk, apache generates a 404, and having users accessing tomcat directly is not an option |
| 12:51.54 | rjd | through mod_jk just as .jsps are being handled? |
| 12:52.19 | rjd | tomcat 6.0.2x, linux 686, java 1.6 |
| 12:56.41 | dvayanu | err |
| 12:56.47 | dvayanu | which pack:tag? |
| 12:57.28 | rjd | http://sourceforge.net/projects/packtag |
| 12:57.47 | dvayanu | and it generates classes? |
| 12:57.50 | rjd | no |
| 12:57.52 | dvayanu | err ressources? |
| 12:57.56 | rjd | it generates nothing on disk |
| 12:58.09 | rjd | but links like: css/combined.css.h1390289553.pack works |
| 12:58.18 | dvayanu | ah |
| 12:58.19 | rjd | and contains js or css packed |
| 12:58.19 | dvayanu | ok |
| 12:58.25 | dvayanu | and your problem is? |
| 12:58.36 | rjd | I've apache in front of tomcat |
| 12:58.46 | dvayanu | route /* to tomcat |
| 12:59.01 | rjd | okey, thats it? |
| 12:59.09 | dvayanu | i'd say so |
| 12:59.31 | rjd | I use mod_jk, so: JkMount /*.jsp /*.pack <mydest>? |
| 12:59.34 | dvayanu | i haven't worked with packtag, but if you forward everything to tomcat |
| 12:59.42 | dvayanu | JkMount /* mydest |
| 12:59.47 | rjd | I rather not |
| 13:00.00 | dvayanu | why not? |
| 13:00.09 | rjd | Let's not take that discussion :) |
| 13:00.14 | dvayanu | sure |
| 13:00.23 | dvayanu | your decision |
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| 16:47.55 | samuelg | hi |
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| 16:55.23 | eolair | Tomcat5.5/Java1.5/MacOSX: Im having problems with setting up JNDI Resources anyone where familiar with that? |
| 16:57.13 | eolair | anyone there? |
| 17:14.48 | samuelg | hi |
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| 17:19.13 | samuelg | tomcat6.0.18/java 1.6/windows XP i am having problem whit comet. anyone can say me one manual whit example working , all examples i find not working, sorry for my english |
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| 17:52.39 | samuelg | aniyone undersand of COMET |
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| 18:48.38 | cobalt027 | hi guys. |
| 18:49.05 | cobalt027 | can someone confirm for me what compiler tomcat 5.5.9 uses to compile JSPs? |
| 18:49.08 | cobalt027 | 1.4 or 1.5? |
| 18:50.37 | cobalt027 | my JAVA_HOME and JRE_HOME are both using j2se_jdk_sun-1.5.0.07 |
| 18:51.01 | cobalt027 | this is on a linux system. |
| 18:53.26 | kjkoster5489 | It should just use your JAVA_HOME/lib/tools. |
| 18:53.36 | kjkoster5489 | What are you seeing? |
| 18:53.57 | cobalt027 | I'm trying to use Generics in a JSP and its failing. |
| 18:54.17 | kjkoster5489 | That might be the Jasper JSP to Java compiler. |
| 18:54.37 | kjkoster5489 | What precise stack trace are you getting (pastebin). |
| 18:54.49 | cobalt027 | pastebin url? |
| 18:54.58 | kjkoster5489 | ~pastebin |
| 18:54.59 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 18:55.36 | kjkoster5489 | ~ibot++ |
| 18:55.36 | cobalt027 | http://pastebin.com/d1eb82fcf |
| 18:56.09 | kjkoster5489 | You can see in the trace that it's Jasper complaining. |
| 18:56.26 | kjkoster5489 | Not javac. |
| 18:56.31 | cobalt027 | is there a recommended way to fix this? |
| 18:56.33 | kjkoster5489 | You need to upgrade Tomcat. |
| 18:56.45 | cobalt027 | really? |
| 18:56.47 | cobalt027 | oh boy. |
| 18:57.01 | kjkoster5489 | Is that a problem? |
| 18:57.39 | cobalt027 | sort of. im in an enterprise environment and my OPS people might not like me asking them to upgrade 14 tomcats that are running multiple webapps. :( |
| 18:57.49 | kjkoster5489 | *hehe* |
| 18:58.05 | cobalt027 | is there no other way to correct this? |
| 18:58.07 | kjkoster5489 | Time for you to write a business case. ;-) |
| 18:58.52 | cobalt027 | this does not give me warm fuzzies.... |
| 18:59.02 | cobalt027 | is there no other way to correct this? |
| 18:59.14 | kjkoster5489 | It is as much work to upgrade Jasper as it is to move to a more modern Tomcat. |
| 18:59.39 | kjkoster5489 | Plus, your OPS will freak out if you suggest half-upgrading Tomcat. |
| 18:59.57 | cobalt027 | you do have a point. |
| 19:00.08 | kjkoster5489 | I don't see how it is difficult to upgrade Tomcat. It's practically a drop-in upgrade to go to 6.0.18. |
| 19:00.20 | kjkoster5489 | Unless you are running a non-standard Tomcat of some sort. |
| 19:00.24 | cobalt027 | and will 6.x not have this issue? |
| 19:00.50 | kjkoster5489 | It runs beautifully with java 1.5 and 1.6 syntax. |
| 19:00.54 | kjkoster5489 | I do it |
| 19:03.10 | cobalt027 | ok. thanks for your help. i really appreciate it. |
| 19:03.16 | kjkoster5489 | Newer tomcats also have fewer security issues, if you need any arguments. |
| 19:03.30 | kjkoster5489 | I collect Java-related CVE's here: http://java-monitor.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6 |
| 19:03.50 | kjkoster5489 | Search for Tomcat and JDK and check them against your versions. |
| 19:04.08 | cobalt027 | heh - i think ill let the OPS people deal with that. |
| 19:04.18 | kjkoster5489 | Not all of them are earth shattering, but security does seem to weigh heavily with OPS. |
| 19:04.37 | cobalt027 | you are correct sir. :) |
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| 19:29.50 | cobalt027 | kjkoster5489: btw - i was able to upgrade from 5.5.90 to 5.5.25 and now the generics work. |
| 19:30.06 | kjkoster5489 | Excellent. |
| 19:30.47 | kjkoster5489 | Now all you need is an argument for your OPS' managers' finance director. |
| 19:41.08 | cobalt027 | hehe |
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| 21:06.36 | usersam | java -version |
| 21:06.36 | usersam | java version "1.5.0_16" |
| 21:06.36 | usersam | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.10 | usersam | "The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost:8180." |
| 21:07.54 | usersam | start |
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| 21:08.08 | usersam | anyone suggest why I see no page? |
| 21:35.30 | cobalt027 | it looks like you're starting it as a service, is that right/. |
| 21:35.34 | cobalt027 | ? |
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