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06:34.31DXisthi! tomcat5-5.5.27, java version "1.5.0_17", ALT Linux 5.0.0 Office Server Prototype. I got "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina" in catalina.out while was trying ot run tomcat. What should I check first?
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07:59.03tstmAnyone here awake to help with a small little issue with logging in tomcat?-) (on a debian machine)
08:00.00tstmWhat I'd like to know is: How can I set the log file default permissions (umask), so that the tomcat default logger gives logfiles group rw privileges?
08:00.50tstm(Tomcat 5.5.26)
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09:11.47qwertyjustinhey guys
09:11.54kjkoster5489hi
09:12.37qwertyjustinim so stuck with setting up the tomcat java server, as opposed to lamp on ubuntu 9.04
09:12.47qwertyjustinits all installed via syanptic
09:12.57qwertyjustinbut where to next, point me in the right direction?
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09:14.32qwertyjustinso yeah
09:14.42qwertyjustinsorry dc'd
09:15.21qwertyjustinany direction for me guys?
09:18.26kjkoster5489Don't use the repackaged tomcats unless you know Tomcat really well.
09:18.56kjkoster5489Just download zip from tomcat.apache.org; unzip zip; cd tomcat*/bin; chmod 755 *.sh; ./startup.sh
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13:23.03[twisti]hi, im having trouble understanding how to deplay a war file
13:23.22[twisti]the war file i made contains my compiled classes
13:23.36[twisti]and a web.xml in WEB-INF
13:24.08[twisti]the web.xml contains mappings such as <url-pattern>/top10.lol</url-pattern>
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13:24.34[twisti]i deployed it with the tomcat manager and it didnt complain, but when i try to go to ip/top10.lol, i get a 4o4 (from tomcat)
13:25.56[twisti]ideas ?
13:26.01[twisti]no error messages or anything
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13:40.36kjkoster5489any errors in ${tomcat}/logs/catalina.out?
13:40.51kjkoster5489You should see thewar being deployed in that log file too.
13:42.25[twisti]i figured it out, it was mapped to the wrong place/i was expecting it somewhere else
13:42.42kjkoster5489Ok, good.
13:43.23[twisti]is there any way to remove the war file name in the url ? like the one i pasted, i want that at hostname/top10, not hostname/warfilename/top10
13:55.38tstmAnyone here happen to know where I could set default permissions to tomcat log files?
13:56.19tstmBy default, debian tomcat seems to give 0600 permissions to logs, and I want to have group read access (0640).
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13:59.31kjkoster5489tstm: man chmod
13:59.37kjkoster5489man umask
13:59.44kjkoster5489check the start script for umask
14:00.29tstmkjkoster5489: I know chmod, of course I can chmod the logfiles after their creation. But I want tomcat to create the files with the right umask.
14:00.43tstmAnd I already added umask to the startup script with no effect.
14:03.38tstmThere's nothing in logging.properties I could set?
14:03.56kjkoster5489no
14:04.02kjkoster5489it's a UNIX issue
14:04.09tstmPfft. =/
14:06.36tstmHm, it might have something to do with jsvc maybe ignoring the umask..
14:12.20tstmAnd all other files created by tomcat are fine.
14:12.31tstmIt's just the log files that don't have correct permissions.
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15:38.22nainaidehelp! please, I am confuse on server.xml format, lots of wrote about add <Server port="XXXX" shutdown="_SHUTDOWN_COMMAND_" debug="0">, but my question is : Is there only one pair of <server> </server> in server.xml or as many as instance ? thanks
15:41.34nainaidehelp! please, I am confuse on server.xml format, lots of people  wrote about add <Server port="XXXX" shutdown="_SHUTDOWN_COMMAND_" debug="0">, but my question is : Is there only one pair of <server> </server> in server.xml or as many as instance ? thanks
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17:06.52Dantixhi all, my tomcat is saying at Manager's Server Status tab, Max memory: 63.56Mb. I've read the solution is add the parameters -XX:MaxPermSize=1024m
17:06.52Dantix-XX:PermSize=512m
17:06.52Dantixat Java Options of my tocat6w, but that dows not works for me... what could be the solution?
17:11.17DantixI'm using Tomcat 6.0.20 on JRE 1.6 and windows 2003 server
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18:16.04kmis there way to run tomcat on port 80 as regular user?
18:20.06jasonbkm: Yes.
18:20.39kmhow/where can i find the info?
18:21.09kmi was told there are 3 opts available
18:23.41jasonbkm: Because I joined the channel just some minutes ago, it seems I didn't get your software versions information.
18:24.18kmtomcat6 on solaris sparc
18:35.52jasonbThe best way is to run Tomcat as any user you want, configured to open on port 8080, and then use a network tool to remap port 80 to port 8080.
18:36.20jasonbOn Solaris, there is a netfilter tool you can use for that (sorry, I can't give you details).
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18:44.43[twisti]is it possible to map a .war file to a root location ? as in, i have <url-pattern>/test</url-pattern>, but when i deplay it, it appears as host/warfilename/test instead of host/test
18:48.46kmwhy would  that be the best way?
18:49.53kmwhat about these options:
18:49.57kmhttp://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/download.jsp
18:50.16kmhttp://kl93.blogspot.com/2007/05/tomcat-how-to-run-stand-alone-on-port.html
18:50.42kmhttp://yajsw.sourceforge.net/#mozTocId284533
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20:08.34jasonbkm: I do not suggest service wrappers.  There are more than a couple, and they could work, but after having some experience with them I won't suggest any of them to you.
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21:11.16[twisti]is there any way to update an app with the tomcat manager ?
21:11.32[twisti]i uploaded a new version, tried stopping, starting, restarting, redeploying
21:11.37[twisti]nothing seems to make any difference
21:32.04kmjasonb: why? what kind of experience?
21:34.47kmin setting a cluster/session replication with 3 nodes. the only membership address need to be unquie in all 3 node server.xml files?
21:36.05Thijssssyou don't need to define 'm at all ?
21:36.28Thijssssthey'll figure it out through shouting over the multicast to each other
21:37.17Thijssssjust make sure you set your webapps/site/WEB-INF/web.xml to include <distributable/> or it won't work at all
21:38.09[twisti]ok, i have a really dumb question. i use eclipse for JEE and have a tomcat servlet project. when i start the eclipse tomcat server, i would like it to host a few things that are NOT part of the project (images and such). is there a way to do that ? the only way i found to get stuff on the eclipse tomcat is by adding it to the project
21:41.24kmshould i change the membershipt address=, port=, frequency=,droptime= to multicast mcastaddr=,mcastport,mcastfrequency=,mcastdropttime= ?
21:41.54Thijsssskm: won't the default settings just work?
21:42.14kmno
21:42.17Thijsssswhy not ?
21:42.23kmhangon
21:43.01Thijssssall you need to set in the server.xml is : <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"/>
21:44.16kmSession is not getting replicated across all nodes using apache 6.0.14
21:45.15Thijssssdid you set the WEB-INF/web.xml to contain <distributable/> ?
21:45.26km<Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
21:45.26km<PROTECTED>
21:45.33kmyes
21:45.47Thijssssthey openend up TCP connections to each other?
21:46.02Thijssssthe catalina.out shows they are talking over multicast about connecting to each other?
21:46.36Thijssssall I set in the web.xml is:
21:46.37Thijssss<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
21:46.37Thijssss<web-app>
21:46.37Thijssss<distributable/>
21:46.37Thijssss</web-app>
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21:46.59Thijssssthat's not in the /conf/web.xml but the in the /webapps/site/WEB-INF/web.xml
21:47.16kmand the mcastaddress need to be unque on all nodes right
21:47.27kmlet me check web.xml
21:47.34Thijssssno
21:47.37Thijssssit's one multicast address
21:48.12Thijssssnetstat -n should show TCP connectings like:
21:48.13Thijsssstcp6       0      0 10.2.16.8:4000          10.2.16.13:50593        ESTABLISHED
21:48.14Thijsssstcp6       0      0 10.2.16.8:56213         10.2.16.13:4000         ESTABLISHED
21:48.14Thijsssstcp6       0      0 10.2.16.8:43153         10.2.16.15:4000         ESTABLISHED
21:48.14Thijsssstcp6       0      0 10.2.16.8:4000          10.2.16.10:35661        ESTABLISHED
21:48.43kmyou mean all the membership address in server.xml files need to be the same?
21:48.59Thijssssmulticast just uses one address
21:49.14Thijssssit's like broadcast but not confined to one subnet
21:49.34Thijssssand there are several 'channels'.. they should listen to the same multicast 'channel'
21:50.39kmi am talking about this address in this line  <Membership className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
21:50.39km<PROTECTED>
21:50.39km<PROTECTED>
21:50.41Thijssssdo you have any firewalling? are they on the same subnet?
21:50.48Thijssssthat's not a multicast address
21:50.58Thijssssit should be like 228.0.0.4
21:51.06Thijssssperhaps that's your issue ;p
21:51.07km<PROTECTED>
21:51.10kmyes
21:51.42Thijssssfire up a tomcat and tail -f it's catalina.out .. should show lines like:
21:51.43ThijssssAug 27, 2009 12:27:51 PM org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster memberAdded
21:51.43ThijssssINFO: Replication member added:org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.MemberImpl[tcp://{10, 2, 16, 15}:4000,{10, 2, 16, 15},4000, alive=190555,id={-119 47 -105 -36 -76 -83 71 16 -118 -22 -87 -75 -107 14 -76 -89 }, payload={}, command={}, domain={}, ]
21:51.43kmdoes this address need to be the same in all 3 node server.xml files?
21:51.48Thijssssyes
21:52.26kmi have different address in all 3 server.xml file, is that a problem?
21:52.50Thijssssthen they won't be able to talk to each other to initiate the clustering
21:53.03kmgot .4, .5,.6,.7
21:53.08Thijssssjust put 'm all on .4
21:53.31kmis that why it didn't replicate the session?
21:54.07Thijssssit replicates sessions using TCP connections to port 4000 or 4001 ; but they use the 224.0.0.4 multicast address to find each other
21:54.16Thijssss1. multicast around
21:54.19Thijssss2. see each other
21:54.28Thijssss3. initiate TCP connections
21:54.36Thijssss4. share session information through TCP connection
21:55.00kmis "address="  is is ok, do i need to change it to" mcastaddress="
21:55.12Thijssssyou could just not set it all all
21:55.27kmwhy
21:55.31Thijssssonly set <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"/>
21:55.38Thijssssbecause all the default settings will work out just fine
21:55.42kmit not require?
21:55.46Thijssssno
21:56.01kmso why is that option there?
21:56.28Thijssssin case you want to specify different settings.. perhaps when you have two clusters running on the same network
21:58.59kmif have the same clusters running on the same network, how should the settings look like?
21:59.14Thijssssdifferent multicast address to use
21:59.52Thijssssnodes which need to cluster together should be on the same unique multicast address
22:00.20Thijssssperhaps there are more options to specify who belongs to what but I never had to use 'm so no idea
22:05.51kmdoes it need sticky session?
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22:06.44Thijssssif the session is known everywhere I suppose not
22:09.25kmcan i tell if catalina.out show session it being replicated or not?
22:16.45Thijssssno
22:17.01Thijssssonly if they found each other through the multicast
22:17.04Thijssssthey should set up TCP connections, if those are established it should work
22:17.20ThijssssI got some test code for an index.jsp to show a session id if you want
22:17.32kmsure
22:21.56kmbtw, we follow this instruction here: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/cluster-howto.html
22:23.39Thijsssshttp://codepad.org/9gjpUCcb
22:23.45Thijssssjust throw that in an index.jsp
22:25.23kmthanks
22:26.30km<distributable/> need to be setup in all 3 nodes conf/web.xml files, right?
22:27.27kmi see in webapp
22:27.31kmnot conf
22:29.10Thijssssyes
22:29.17Thijsssserr
22:29.20Thijssssnot in conf/web.xml
22:29.26Thijssssin your webapp/web-inf/web.xml
22:29.32Thijssssas I showed earlier
22:30.02Thijssssbut first just start up two tomcats and see if the catalina.out shows they are talking to each other through multicast
22:35.48kmi going set 2 nodes cluster/session rep in a test env. can generalize what need to complish this test setup?
22:36.09kmso i got two tomcat6 instances running
22:37.34Thijssssare you using linux btw or windows?
22:37.42kmlinux
22:37.49Thijssssah ok ok :)
22:37.51Thijssssso anyway
22:37.56kmon vbox
22:38.05Thijssssthey should have a connection to each other on port 4000 or 4001 .. somwhere there
22:38.07Thijsssslook at netstat -n
22:38.24kmthe http port?
22:38.50Thijsssswell they would both listen on 80 yes
22:38.55Thijssssbut for clustering they use 4000
22:38.58Thijssssor 4001
22:39.03Thijsssssomewhere around 400*
22:40.39kmare you talking about this? <Receiver className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
22:40.39km<PROTECTED>
22:40.39km<PROTECTED>
22:41.18Thijssssno
22:41.47ThijssssI can login to the system to take a look at the config if you would allow me to
22:42.37kmi dont' have it setup for remote access
22:42.51Thijsssswhat i meant was , if you have the two tomcats running
22:42.56Thijssssat the shell, type 'netstat -n'
22:43.02Thijssssand see what connections are made
22:43.07Thijssssthey should have a connection to each other
22:43.13kmok, hangon
22:44.07Thijssssand check using 'netstat -vnepl' to see if it is listening on port 4000 or 4001 for incoming connections
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22:51.06km<PROTECTED>
22:51.25kmare you talking about this? <Receiver className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver" port="4000"....
22:51.43kmdoes the port need to be the same on all server.xml files?
22:52.33ThijssssI don't remember setting or changing that
22:52.45Thijssssand no, I was talking about the systems network connectings
22:52.53Thijssssnot about something in an xml file
22:59.39kmnetstat -n show  tcp6 :4000 LISTEN
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23:01.04Thijssssah good
23:01.42Thijsssstho the 'netstat -n' won't show LISTEN so I guess you meant the 'netstat -vnepl'
23:01.50Thijssssor atleast with the -l flag
23:02.19Thijssssdoes catalina.out say the two found each other?
23:03.00Thijsssssomething like INFO: Replication member added:org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.MemberImpl[tcp://{10, 2, 16, 15}:4000,
23:03.21kmhangon. does multicast need to be the same on all server.xml files: <Membership className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastService"
23:03.21km<PROTECTED>
23:03.21km<PROTECTED>
23:03.40Thijssssyes
23:04.25Thijsssstho same address
23:04.29Thijssssi'm not 100% sure on the port
23:04.39Thijsssswould make sense to me if it was
23:07.14kmok. idon't see catalina.out file
23:10.40Thijssssshould be in your tomcat dir /logs
23:11.14kmi don't see it there, let check again.
23:11.32Thijssssshould be there with the very default config
23:12.18Thijssssits not even defined anywhere, should just always be there
23:12.25Thijssssperhaps in your case it ended up somewhere in /var/log
23:12.29Thijssssor /var/log/tomcat
23:19.43Thijssssfound it yet?
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23:25.43ruaokHello, I've got a question for you all. First off: tomcat: 6.0.18, java version "1.6.0_0" / OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.4.1) (6b14-1.4.1-0ubuntu11), Ubuntu 9.04
23:25.57kmyes, it was in catalina.`date`.log
23:26.13kmi see member info what do i need to look for
23:26.14ruaokI've got a webapp I'm trying to deploy using the stock ubuntu tomcat6.
23:26.37ruaokwhen installing from source everything works great.
23:26.47Thijsssskm: "Replication member added"
23:26.51ruaokbut I can't get it to work under ubuntu's tomcat.
23:27.11ruaokhttp://musicbrainz.homeip.net:8080/ws/1/artist/?query=%22fred%22&fmt=html
23:27.40Thijssssruaok: sorry I can't help you on that one
23:27.49kmit try to add but it failed
23:28.05ruaokit can't find the lucene jar that we have installed into WEB_INF/lib
23:28.12Thijsssskm: what does it say?
23:28.13ruaokThijssss: know anyone who can?
23:28.15kmit said memberdisappered
23:28.52Thijsssskm: can you paste that part of the log to http://codepad.org and hand me the url to view it?
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23:29.38Thijssssruaok  : nope, I only just joined here yesterday
23:29.48ruaokah.
23:29.50kmcatalina log on the second node said conector.connector stop
23:29.59kmi try to restart it again
23:32.22kmnode2 - serve: coyote connect has not been started
23:32.36kmin catailna log
23:32.43Thijsssskm: I have never seen that error before.. no idea, sorry .. try google
23:33.22kmi use the same server.xml in both nodes
23:33.52kmwould that be a problem
23:34.00Thijsssscould be
23:34.05Thijssssdepends on the depth of the configuration
23:34.27kmwhat need to be different in the settings
23:34.33ThijssssI don't know
23:34.41Thijssssmine are the same but you seem to have configured a lot more
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23:38.01kmare you using 5.5 or 6
23:38.12Thijssss6.0.20
23:39.03kmcan see your server.xml?
23:40.01kmassume i get pass this issue, what is the next steps
23:40.25kmor is that all with the setup
23:41.26ThijssssI only have added one thing to my server.xml, that's the simpletcpcluster line I showed earlier and which is mentioned on that clustering help page
23:43.30kmok
23:44.45kmthanks for helping out, i'll try resetup the test all over again later.
23:45.02Thijssssheh
23:45.11Thijssssif you grant me remote access later I can help you out a lot better
23:45.16Thijssssbut that would be next week
23:45.22Thijssssi'm quite busy with a monday deadline -_-
23:45.41Thijsssshas 14 tomcat servers in that project -_- ;p
23:47.11kmi see. i see if i can setup the remote access.
23:48.59kmiam kinda tire having been on the computer for 8 hours now.
23:49.12Thijssssjust 8?
23:49.18Thijsssslost count
23:49.23Thijssssand it's almost 2 am for me .. bah
23:49.37Thijsssstho i'm not busy on tomcat
23:49.38kmhow have you been on it
23:49.48Thijssssis battleing IPv6, failover and loadbalancing
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23:51.43km2am is bed time. my bed is about 12am
23:52.08kmi guess you  don't have to wakeup early
23:52.49Thijsssswell
23:52.52ThijssssI don't have to
23:52.57ThijssssI usually do start at 10
23:52.59Thijsssstill like 6
23:53.12Thijssssat times like these I pull the late hours to make the deadlines and fix stuff
23:53.17Thijssssthey won't mind if I start later
23:53.28Thijssssbut I will start early because there is shitloads of work left to do
23:53.34kmi see, that's good.
23:53.39Thijssssstill need to check and make someone double check 40 servers -_-
23:53.54Thijsssssweeeeet
23:54.01ThijssssI got the ipv6 working again
23:54.23Thijssssnow to write some code for checking the webservers, ldirectord does not support that on ipv6 itself -_-
23:54.29Thijssssi'll talk to you later km :)
23:54.31kmyou are usingg ipv6 on what
23:54.34Thijssssidles
23:54.35kmlater
23:54.38Thijsssson servers of course
23:54.41Thijssssipv6 is cool :)
23:54.45Thijssssgot in on the desktops as well
23:54.49Thijssssclients request it as well
23:55.10kmyou are the first i know that is using ipv6

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